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Shohei Ohtani shut down from pitching, Kyle Bradish extended · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, and welcome into foul Territory. I'm Trisher Weathercare
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  Speaker 1: the first thing that we have to do is say
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  Speaker 1: congratulations to Red Sox fans, because they're kind of this
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  Speaker 1: surprise team right now. They're in the middle of a
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  Speaker 1: thirteen game winning streak and that's pretty incredible when you
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  Speaker 1: consider the way that they started the season.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, right, Kip, Yeah, I'm excited to talk to Tim
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  Speaker 2: later on. But you know, I was covering the Blue
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  Speaker 2: Jays middle of June. Watched the Red Sox play, and
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  Speaker 2: I honestly thought they were one of the worst teams
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  Speaker 2: that I had seen. I had been following a lot
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  Speaker 2: of teams in the division covering the Blue Jays, and
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  Speaker 2: I thought they were an awful team. I thought they
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  Speaker 2: were going to be written off. The fact that they've
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  Speaker 2: won thirteen in a row is incredible. Watched in the
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  Speaker 2: last four days, there was something really special going on there,
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  Speaker 2: especially Saturday's game. They were down late in the game,
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  Speaker 2: William Ray, you came up with that big home run,
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  Speaker 2: but you could kind of just see Fenway. The entire
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  Speaker 2: team is starting to believe that something magical is about
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  Speaker 2: to happen.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, it's all about ebbs and flows of the year,
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  Speaker 3: and it's all about how you handle those ebbs and flows.
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  Speaker 3: They are on an epic run right now. Everybody talked
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  Speaker 3: about this team being out of the woods. Everybody talked
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  Speaker 3: about breaking this team down, sending everybody out.
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  Speaker 4: I think it all it took was a.
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  Speaker 3: Little contrarous magic here getting angry at some people and
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  Speaker 3: lighting a fire not only under his rear end, but
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  Speaker 3: everybody else's.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's all it took. And now you're seeing that.
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  Speaker 3: You go on a run during the season, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a twenty game eighteen and two was seventeen and three.
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  Speaker 3: This time, what twelve, maybe thirteen, maybe fourteen in a
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  Speaker 3: row like this is fantastic.
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  Speaker 4: You get right back into it.
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  Speaker 3: If you worry about your team anybody else's, I promise you,
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  Speaker 3: when you do go on that run, everything else will
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  Speaker 3: start stacking up.
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  Speaker 4: I control, I blind Contrara's for this one in a
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  Speaker 4: good way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Give Contraras some credit. Like, I know, he's
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  Speaker 1: kind of been you know, obviously he's Contraras's. He plays
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  Speaker 1: with a lot of fire, but he's been in the
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  Speaker 1: news recently for all that stuff that happened. But like, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I like love the way that he plays. We have
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  Speaker 1: the Red Sox on Apple TV on Friday at Fenway.
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  Speaker 5: It's Blue Jay's Red Sox, and I'm.
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  Speaker 1: So excited because he always fires me up with the
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  Speaker 1: way he plays. I know people have their different opinions
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  Speaker 1: on him, but I like that fire and I think
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  Speaker 1: it's good for the game.
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  Speaker 5: We're gonna take a lot more go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say it's it's pretty amazing. And me
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  Speaker 2: and Kratty talked about this last time. I was on
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  Speaker 2: the fact that he was a catcher and that he's
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  Speaker 2: moved to first base and when you watch him play,
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  Speaker 2: it looks like he's played first base his whole life.
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  Speaker 2: And really what it's done for his offensive game. I
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  Speaker 2: think he already has more homers at this point, a
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  Speaker 2: new career high. You know, a couple of games into
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  Speaker 2: the unofficial second half of the season. So it's pretty
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  Speaker 2: amazing what he's been able to do and obviously his
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  Speaker 2: leadership ability, what he used to do behind the plate,
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  Speaker 2: he's now brought to that clubhouse in Boston, And like
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  Speaker 2: Todd Father said, you got to blame this guy for
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  Speaker 2: kind of sparking this kind of run that this team's
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  Speaker 2: been on.
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  Speaker 1: Or thank him because it makes the Al East that
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  Speaker 1: much more exciting right now, right, I fricking love it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have the Red Sox on Apple
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  Speaker 1: on Friday, and we're gonna talk a lot more Red
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  Speaker 1: Sox with Tim Healy at one forty five. So if
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  Speaker 1: you're a Red Sox fan and you're watching, don't leave us,
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  Speaker 1: because you're not gonna want to miss that conversation. All Right,
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  Speaker 1: it is time for charge the mound's charging about.
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  Speaker 4: All right?
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  Speaker 1: Our first topic of discussion here, guys, you've seen it
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  Speaker 1: everywhere in the news show. Hey Otani, he's not gonna
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  Speaker 1: pitch against the Phillies. The Dodgers are being cautious with
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  Speaker 1: his knee recovery. There's our good friend Katie Wu making
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  Speaker 1: the report. Like I said, they're just being cautious. They
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  Speaker 1: don't have a date for when he could make his
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  Speaker 1: next Pitching Star art. But there you see a quote
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  Speaker 1: from Dodgers manager Dave Roberts. He said, we just want
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  Speaker 1: to continue to give thee the best chance to get
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  Speaker 1: into a good spot. And I guess, guys, you can
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  Speaker 1: certainly understand that.
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  Speaker 5: KP. What was your initial reaction when you saw this news?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's interesting, you know, I think my
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  Speaker 2: immediate response went to see, he's a generation, lifetime player.
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  Speaker 2: But I immediately went to the rules of the game,
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  Speaker 2: like Otawny is, you know, on the roster as a
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  Speaker 2: pitcher and a hitter, and like, if he's not able
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  Speaker 2: to pitch for a certain amount of time, does it
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  Speaker 2: change the way that they are able to kind of
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  Speaker 2: maneuver their roster. And the other thing I kind of
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  Speaker 2: thought about too, is I mean, it's a four time MVP,
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  Speaker 2: he's probably on pace to win his fifth. But the
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  Speaker 2: Dodgers are trying to do something that hasn't been done
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  Speaker 2: in a long, long, long, long long time, and trying
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  Speaker 2: to win three consecutive World Series. At what point do
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  Speaker 2: the Dodgers decide, Hey, maybe we just shut him down
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  Speaker 2: for a little bit of time. Let's allow him to
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  Speaker 2: get fully healthy. He had watched the second game of
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  Speaker 2: the doubleheader last night against the Yankees, and he didn't
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  Speaker 2: look one hundred percent. And obviously otawani at that's called
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  Speaker 2: seventy percent is better than most players on this planet.
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  Speaker 2: But if the Dodgers are trying to do something like
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  Speaker 2: win a third consecutive World Series, you know, at what
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  Speaker 2: point do they have that conversation with him, the organization
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  Speaker 2: and maybe just give him a couple weeks off to
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  Speaker 2: allow the need to heal, allow him to come back
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  Speaker 2: and do what makes him really special and be that
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  Speaker 2: two way player.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, these Dodgers.
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  Speaker 3: I call them these Dodgers because they're like by themselves
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  Speaker 3: eleven and a half game lead in the NL West.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I gotta be honest with you. I I
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  Speaker 3: think this is it's a gift in a curse.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: The gift is somebody else can get on the mound
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  Speaker 3: and get some reps and see if this guy, one
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  Speaker 3: or two guys can come in playoffs and be like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, I feel comfortable throwing this guy in the
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  Speaker 3: you know, the fifth inning to go two or three innings.
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  Speaker 4: You know, this is the been the Dodgers m MO.
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  Speaker 3: You know, some guys get injured, other guys up and
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  Speaker 3: they find one or two other horses, whether it's hitting
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  Speaker 3: or pitching, to help them along.
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  Speaker 4: The way saw yesterday in the game.
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  Speaker 3: The couple of bats they saw it Tony the one
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  Speaker 3: at bat, he didn't look good striking out against Bednar,
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  Speaker 3: swinging out a lot of different pitches. He looked all
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  Speaker 3: over the place. But then he hit a groundball at
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  Speaker 3: first base and he ran it out and almost beat
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  Speaker 3: it and rolled his ankle. So I think everybody in
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  Speaker 3: the West Coast was holding their breath. But he came
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  Speaker 3: back from it. It looked like he ran off fine,
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  Speaker 3: and he was fine after that. But again he looked
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  Speaker 3: like he was moving a little bit. So that's going
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  Speaker 3: to give some hope knowing that he's for me at least,
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  Speaker 3: that he's closer to getting to that one hundred percent mark.
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  Speaker 3: You know, not everybody's going to be one hundred percent,
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  Speaker 3: but close to where he needs to be moving forward.
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  Speaker 4: They have all the time in the world. This is
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  Speaker 4: what they do.
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  Speaker 3: All their horses will be one hundred percent and then
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  Speaker 3: they'll move on and make that big run in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, would it be smart to just
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  Speaker 3: sit him for fifteen to twenty days. Yeah, but I
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  Speaker 3: don't think that's in his nature or what he wants
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  Speaker 3: to do. But again, KP, I love exactly what you're saying.
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  Speaker 3: You can easily do that and then kickstart him for
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  Speaker 3: you know, say mid August September range, and then he'll
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, you know, the Dodgers, they're going
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  Speaker 1: to be fine. They got that eleven and a half
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  Speaker 1: game lead. They're still going to honor a six man rotation.
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  Speaker 1: And their hope is that Blake Snell, who threw on
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  Speaker 1: Saturday in this first rehab start, will you know, be
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  Speaker 1: built up to return at.
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  Speaker 5: The beginning of August.
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  Speaker 2: I believe it is.
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  Speaker 1: But guys, here's the next question I wanted to ask you,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll go to you first, Todd on this one.
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  Speaker 1: Does this likely take him out of this cy young conversation?
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  Speaker 1: I know Ken Rosenthal really talked about this a lot
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  Speaker 1: on Fair Territory today.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it does. I think it does.
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  Speaker 3: He's you know, you have to pitch, you have to pitch,
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  Speaker 3: and you got to put numbers up as a pitcher.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, first and foremost, the guy is absolutely incredible.
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  Speaker 4: He's a unicorn.
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  Speaker 3: As we talked about what he's been doing, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know how you body can keep up with everything, and
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  Speaker 3: you're seeing it is taking a toll here and there.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think if he doesn't, you know, eventually
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  Speaker 3: get on the mound here, sooner than later, I think
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  Speaker 3: it's a done deal for somebody else.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I I it might be.
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  Speaker 3: It might be a year for another pitcher to come
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  Speaker 3: in there and steal this cy Young award. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it really matters for him anymore right now.
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  Speaker 3: I think he wants to be one hundred percent healthy
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  Speaker 3: and win another World Series, you know, on the selfish shot.
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to see him keep rocking and try and
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  Speaker 3: win another cy Young. But that's just the nature of
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  Speaker 3: the piece. He's not one hundred percent, and I think
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  Speaker 3: it does take him out of the running.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly probably does. And like you said, that's
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  Speaker 1: probably not even remotely on his mind right now right
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  Speaker 1: KP No.
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  Speaker 2: I think he was on his mind going into the season.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's on his mind right now. But
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  Speaker 2: I think with everything that he's accomplished obviously winning World Series,
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  Speaker 2: you know, four time MVP. I think that was kind
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  Speaker 2: of the last thing to potentially solidify him as the
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  Speaker 2: greatest player to ever play this game. No one else
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  Speaker 2: on earth has ever won four MVPs and then go
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  Speaker 2: out and win a cy Young too. So I definitely
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  Speaker 2: think there's some disappointment with him with everything that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of happened this year with his health. But like Todd mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: this guy's doing something that hasn't been done, you know,
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  Speaker 2: since Babe Ruth, and Babe Ruth didn't even actually do
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  Speaker 2: it as long a lot of us thought he had
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  Speaker 2: done it, you know, the idea of pitching and hitting simultaneously.
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  Speaker 2: So eventually, yes, it's gonna take a toll on his body.
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  Speaker 2: I know how much it took a toll on my body,
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  Speaker 2: just prepare to, you know, play the outfield hit and
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  Speaker 2: not have to go through this other idea of throwing
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  Speaker 2: bullpens and then pitching and then the recovery, all the
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  Speaker 2: things that go into it. So I definitely think it
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  Speaker 2: takes him out of the cy Young race. I think
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  Speaker 2: it would have been an amazing accomplishment if he was
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  Speaker 2: able to do it, But the fact that he just
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  Speaker 2: hasn't been able to kind of rack up the amount
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  Speaker 2: of innings probably necessary for him to win a cy
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  Speaker 2: Young I'll just probably need to do what's best for
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  Speaker 2: them long term trying to win another World Series.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna get four names KP Jacob Mazerowski, Chris Sale,
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  Speaker 3: Chase Burns, Christopher Sanchez. I mean, those are four really
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  Speaker 3: good guys right there. I think they're all on the
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  Speaker 3: running here as they move forward. I'm gonna ask you,
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  Speaker 3: who do you think is the guy right now? If
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  Speaker 3: oh Tony can't keep pitching.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's definitely the me is you look at to
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  Speaker 2: do this? I mean the high velocity, the showmanship, obviously
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  Speaker 2: the statistics to back, but to me kind of the
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  Speaker 2: dark horse and all this is Chris Sale. What Chris
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  Speaker 2: Sale has done since he's gone to Atlanta and just
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  Speaker 2: continue to get better when it's incredible, He's defined the
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  Speaker 2: odds of getting older. I do think with kind of
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  Speaker 2: the way that Milwaukee potentially navigates down the stretch with
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  Speaker 2: the Miz being a younger pitcher not kind of having
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  Speaker 2: a ton of innings under his belt in his career,
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  Speaker 2: I do think there's a potential for them to maybe
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  Speaker 2: baby him a little bit down the stretch, knowing that
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  Speaker 2: they're destined for the postseason again and what they really
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  Speaker 2: need is a healthy miss in the postseason. I do
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  Speaker 2: think there was an opportunity for Chris Sale, who really
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  Speaker 2: has no inning limits. This guy's a generational I think
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  Speaker 2: with his most recent cy Young, I think he cemented
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  Speaker 2: himself in Cooperstown. He's the guy that I would I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what the betting odds are right now, but
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  Speaker 2: I would like to put money on because I think
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  Speaker 2: he has the ability to kind of sneak up and
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  Speaker 2: ultimately win another Cy Young.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to see him win a say Young
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  Speaker 1: at thirty seven years old, Like, fire me up that.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe it's just because I'm thirty six years old
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I want to root for the old
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  Speaker 1: guys in the game, you know, because that relates to
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  Speaker 1: me a little bit. But that would fire me up.
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  Speaker 1: I would love that. All right, Let's talk about another
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  Speaker 1: piece of news for the Dodgers right now. Will Smith
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  Speaker 1: is out for another month, and of course we know
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  Speaker 1: the deadline is quickly approaching. There's a couple of layers
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  Speaker 1: to that. There could his injury change the Dodgers trade
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  Speaker 1: deadline plan. And what do you guys think they're gonna do?
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  Speaker 1: Are they gonna explore the starting pitching market? You know,
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  Speaker 1: with Shoehy scratched again, how does this change things?
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  Speaker 5: What do you see?
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  Speaker 2: KP? Yeah, I don't think catchings are concerned. Obviously, they
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  Speaker 2: have Dalton Rushing, who on most teams is a starting catcher.
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  Speaker 2: He's a young kid, but he's kind of evolved into
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  Speaker 2: that role of being the everyday catcher for the Dodgers
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  Speaker 2: while Will Smith is out. That's just the luxury that
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  Speaker 2: the Dodgers have. This guy was probably big league ready
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  Speaker 2: three four years ago. He just had to buy his time.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when they were able to move on from
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  Speaker 2: Austin Barnes, they brought him up. And you know, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think they go out and do anything from the
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  Speaker 2: catching standpoint, because when Will Smith is healthy and in
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  Speaker 2: the lineup, he's arguably the best catcher in the games.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think their bigger concern is on the
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  Speaker 2: starting pitching. You know, Blake's Now hasn't pitched this year,
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  Speaker 2: glass Now has been out a ton this year. You know,
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  Speaker 2: o Tawny's out, But it's amazing what was the guy's
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  Speaker 2: name who throw last night they brought up for the doubleheader.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he was throwing ninety eight mile hour, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a wicket slider, and it's like, this is just a
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  Speaker 2: guy that they have in triple A. So do they
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  Speaker 2: need to go out and get another starting pitcher. No,
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  Speaker 2: they have guys in house. But will they probably go
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  Speaker 2: out and are probably get the best starting pitcher on
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  Speaker 2: the market, probably because that's what the Dodgers do.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they threw.
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  Speaker 3: They threw seven guys yesterday and all of them, you know,
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  Speaker 3: did pretty decent if you want the truth, Klient, I
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  Speaker 3: think the guy's name was that just came in. But listen,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they really need to do much. I
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  Speaker 3: understand because of injury purposes. Will Smith should be back
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  Speaker 3: in the next month or so. They could do really
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  Speaker 3: whatever they want it if you want. Truthfully, they have
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  Speaker 3: the horses, they have a lot of guys, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of prospects that they can use if they want a
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  Speaker 3: nickel and dime here and there. So I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: think the Dodgers are just sitting back and just waiting
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  Speaker 3: for guys to be ready to go. So if they
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  Speaker 3: don't do anything, come trade deadline, I wouldn't be surprised.
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  Speaker 1: Time for the hot corner. We're talking Rentaro Sasaki. With
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  Speaker 1: the two hundred and thirty fifth pick in the MLB Draft,
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  Speaker 1: the Marlins selected the Japanese Japan's all time home run leader,
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  Speaker 1: and he made the decision to elect to sign with
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  Speaker 1: the Marlins. He had a long Instagram post about it,
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  Speaker 1: explaining this decision. But KP, you know a lot about this,
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  Speaker 1: so I want to go to you to understand this
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: decision more and figure out.
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  Speaker 5: What you think about it.
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  Speaker 2: For sure, I don't know a lot. I know some,
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: but I do know that he was kind.
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: Of yourself than that.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, I do know he was. He's a little bit
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: of a trench. Oh no, can you guys hear me?
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: We can stay here you yes, sorry, I Mike just
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: went out real quick. But yeah, he You know, he
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: was a young kid in Japan. He could have gone
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: the traditional route and you know, gone and played in
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: the minor leagues in Japan, worked himself up to the
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: the the major leagues of Japan, but instead he decided
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: to challenge himself. He came over to the United States,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: enrolled in Stanford and then even after that, he had
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: an opportunity to go back for more money to his
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: native country of Japan and play in the major leagues there,
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: but he's deciding to bet on himself. He came over
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: and learned the way that American baseball's played. He immersed
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: himself in the American culture. I love what he's doing.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: He's challenging himself. You know, you look at some of
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: the money differences of what he's eventually gonna sign for
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: with the Miami Marlins versus what he would have got
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: going back to Japan. He's not making the best financial
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: decision for himself in the short term. Potentially in the
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: long term, yes, but I love the fact that he's
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: willing to take the hard route, you know, leaving his
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: country at a young age, going to Stanford and now
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: choosing to go into the minor leagues as opposed to
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: going back and playing in the major leagues of Japan,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: which you get the best travel, you get all the
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: best stuff. He's gonna go on that grind in the
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: minor leagues because he wants to challenge himself. And this
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: is a very unique situation and it's a really cool thing.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm going to be for him because I love
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: what he's doing, betting on himself, challenging himself and kind
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: of being the first one to do it. It's a
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: really cool thing that he's doing. Hopefully it's successful and
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: you'll see a lot more of these international players. Maybe
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: take this route as opposed to the more traditional route.
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  Speaker 4: I think he did his homework too.
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  Speaker 3: I mean from reading about all the things that he
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: went through and he talked about, you know, looking at
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: the facilities, and I think he's betting on himself and
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: I think this is fantastic. Ultimately, we won't know if
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: it was the right or best decision for him.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Until you know, future years ahead.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: He understands he still has a ways to go, and
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: he said, I understand better than anyone. I still do
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: not have enough ability. So he's gonna work his butt
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: off to be the best he can be. We know
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: he's going to be disciplined and you know he's going
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: to be respectful and you know, listen, the kid can play.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: It's a matter of him getting a made.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: It to what they do here in the United States
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: and going out there and working his butt off, which
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I think you will.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Man. He seems like he's very smart.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: He's brought up the right way, and I'm definitely rooting
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: for him too as well.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, and I don't think he Probably
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: he might have factored this into his decision, but the
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: fact that there is kind of that fallback plan that
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: he can always go back to Japan, I think makes
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: it a little bit easier decision for him to go
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: out and explore this opportunity, because realistically, every guy that's
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: in Japan, maybe not every guy. Most guys in Japan
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: dream of playing in the Japanese League, but they also
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: dream of playing in the major leagues. They it's a
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: different route that they have to take once they sign
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: their deals to play in Japan. It takes him a
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: certain amount of time. Then there's these posting things. He
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: decided to skip all that and go to college be
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: draft eligible in the United States. It's a really cool story.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: I'm rooting for him. The fact that he kind of
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: has that safety net potentially makes his decision easier. But
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: nothing that he said in his Instagram prost or anything
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: that I've read he had mentioned that safety net. So
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: he's going for this. It's a really cool story. It's
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: gonna be fun to watch over the next couple of
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: years to see if he can kind of be the
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: first one to kind of blaze this new new path
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: in the game.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Well, his Instagram post was awesome. He just sounded
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: kind of wise beyond his ears. All right, let's go
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: on to another piece of news right now from Diamondbacks
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: manager Tory Lavello.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: Have you guys heard you know the Archie Bradley rule.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: He broke it down for us.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Let's hear what he had to say about a recent
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: thing that came out about Prodomo.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Jerry put it on his Instagram.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then Steve ask Mike, Okay, that's.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: Archie Bradley roll.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: You guys know what the Archie Bradley rull is.
• 20:45
  Speaker 8: No, if you do something on social media that I
• 20:48
  Speaker 8: have to talk about, I do like it.
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: Art Remember Archie was doing it like by the week.
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: I love Archie fame players ever. But oh my god,
• 20:59
  Speaker 9: he made my job misuble really stopped. Okay, I'm aware
• 21:05
  Speaker 9: of it. I got a snapshot of him holding up
• 21:07
  Speaker 9: his hand. Somebody asked me what was going on. I
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: was in between glasses of wine.
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: I didn't respond, So this will be my first, my
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: first comment on it. Yes, he didn't get a cort
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: Zone injection. He did have a little bit of hand
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: pain started maybe adder around the San Diego series, So
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: we just felt like at the break, when we had
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: the time, let's go ahead and do this.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: But I think he's gonna be fine.
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: When I when I learned about it, and and we
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: were we were progressing towards him getting examined on Monday,
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: coming out of the LA series, I was very well
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: aware of the fact that there could have been an injection.
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: I didn't know what happened until I got that screenshot,
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: and then I went and read some reports and.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: Saw that there was an injection. So I was told
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: it's not going to hinder him whatsoever.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I think most managers would be happy if social media
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: just didn't exist for players. But obviously this sparked a
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: lot of concern among Diamondbacks fans and I'm sure all
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the beat but you know how that happens, you guys,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: thinks spread like wildfire. It just kind of has a
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: trickle down effect. But Prodomo was on a TikTok live
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: stream with a handwrap. If you didn't hear what he said,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: it was just a minor injury. He had to get
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: a quarterzone shot reportedly not a serious issue.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: KP.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: We'll start with you, what do you think about tori'stis.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I love that he was like I was in the
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: middle of a glass of wine.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: You're not gonna interrupt that.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: But what do you thinking about is I love that
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: there's a name for it, the Archie brather rule. And
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys happen to follow Archie
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: on social. He's just continued to do what he did
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: as a player. Now he's just full time on social.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I get it to me, it's really a nothing burger.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I think maybe the team, you know, maybe one to
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: keep it a secret under wraps. You know, a quarterzone
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: injection is not like a serious thing. It happens more
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: often than you. Probably don't hear about all the quarterzone
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: shots that guys get. Probably not the best look for
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: the play going on a TikTok live or an Instagram
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: live or whatever something live, you know, with a hand
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: wrap on and then having to kind of, you know,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: circle back and talk about the quarterzone shot. It's probably
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: best that the team comes out and just says yes,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: over the break or on an off day or in
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: between games, you got a quarter zone shot. He's had
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: some hand pain, But to me, it's not really a
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: big deal. It's just it's more work on Tory's part.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: That you know, you have to feel like when you
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: don't come out with the news and a player comes
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: out with it and then you have to kind of
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: circle back, it almost feels like you're covering up something.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: A quarterzone shots a nothing burger to me.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, I've done the live stuff, but
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: with my kids opening cards and stuff, I'm afraid of
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: all that kind of thing.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess it is harmless.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, now everybody knows about everybody's
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: wondering what the heck's going on, so you just got
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: to be careful what you do with that kind of stuff.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: I guess it's not the.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Worst thing, but now you're hearing you've got a quarter
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: zone shot, so it's very worrisome. Now, hopefully it's okay
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: as they move along.
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  Speaker 1: All right, at the topic right now, the Phillies struggles.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: They've lost ten straight games, and they've lost twenty of
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: the twenty five games started by the fifth starting spot
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: in their rotation this year. That's obviously a glaring problem. Guys,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I want to know what you think of what's happening
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: to the Phillies right now, particularly that fifth spot in
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: the rotation.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: Title'll start with you.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a weird one. This is it's very
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: it's strange. Listen, Wheeler, Sanchez and Lozardo are fantastic. Lizardo
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: is another EBB and flow guy. Like listen, when he's on,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: he is a delight. He's hard to hit, nice left
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: handed piece. Sanchez. We all know what he can do.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: He's gotten hit a couple of times, but he's still
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: been really really good this year. Wheeler, He's been doing
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: it since he was in diapers. I gotta be honest
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: with you. The guy's stoic. And when the first time
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: he picked up ball and his face was just like
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: this when he pitches and he does what he does best.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: I think it started at T ball and nobody could
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: hit him there, even though you can't pitching t ball,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: everybody knew what was gonna happen with him, you know,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: taking all the jokes aside.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: It's weird. It's weird. Are they not comfortable? Are they
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: not excited enough? Are they not feeling like things are
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: gonna go well? They have a really good team and
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: they came in strong here and they have to find
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: a way because for them to win in the playoffs, Yeah,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: in a short series It's great to have these three guys,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: but moving forward, they're gonna have a little bit more
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: difficult time.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: So throw all the.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Numbers out the window, go out there and give your
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: best foot forward, especially when these three guys aren't pitching.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously, I think going in the season,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Andrew Paynter their their top pitching prospect that you know,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: they just kind of been waiting for his turn to
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: get in the big leagues. You know, underperformed kind of
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: in that fifth starter spot. You know the other guy
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: that we didn't mention, who's you know, quote unquote their
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: fourth guy, Aaron Nola. You know, he's as consistent as
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: they come. Is he the same pitcher he was a
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: couple of years ago. No, but as a fourth starter
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: he is very serviceable.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: To me.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Could the Phillies go out and prove their rot and
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: go out and get a you know, back end starter. Sure,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's that big of a deal because
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: come playoff time, which the Phillies are going to be
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: a playoff team, you know, fisth starter. You know, would
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: you talk about rolling out? You know Zach Wheeler, which
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: you mentioned, I think is probably the best picture I've
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: ever faced in my career. You know, this guy is unhittable.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: He's just been doing it for so long. The stoicness,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: the confidence, the stuff is. I've never seen anything like it.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Obviously what Christopher Sanchez has turned into. And then you
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: got Lizardo. I mean, those three are going to carry
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: you in a short season. You add Nola at the
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: end of that rotation. I don't think it's that big
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: of a deal. It is a very interesting thing that
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: to lose twenty out of twenty five games when a
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: fifth starter it's his turn in the rotation, you know,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I know Don Maddenley's not necessarily you know, a new
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: school guy, He's an old school guy, which I appreciate.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: At some point, maybe you try an open her and
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: you try to switch things up a little bit in
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: the fifth spot, because clearly whoever's taking the ball every
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: fifth day in that fifth spot isn't getting it done.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: All right, KP, you mentioned it, but Todd, I want
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: to get your take on it. Does that just put
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on the bullpen and almost make
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: you think they're wasting a pretty historic season from the
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: top of their rotation or is that is.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: That going too far.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: No, I agree totally without a doubt.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: And then then you think about come trade deadline here,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: like what are the Phillies gonna do?
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: What are their needs?
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: And if they're not doing well with the pitching, they're
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: gonna have to find somebody else. So they're you know,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: not to bring up everybody, but a lot of these
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: teams that are in it, which is a whole heck
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: of a lot because of now you get three three
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: teams in the wildcard. It could be a dangerous it
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: could be exciting, it could be like, wow, it's surprising.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Trade deadline. We'll see what the Phillies want to do here.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: But again, the bullpen, it seems like, has to be
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: ready to go come jump Street when these guys aren't pitching.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: So the ebbs and flow is a pitching It's nuts, man.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: This is this game is it's totally transparent. Teams are
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: really good from top to bottom, and everybody wants to win.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: So we'll see what happens.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: All right, Let's talk a little bit about the Orioles.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: They just locked up Kyle Bradish. They're in agreement on
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: a five year, ninety million dollar contract extension. Reported by
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Jeff Passing, of ESPN. They locked up their best starter.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: They bought out three years of free agency.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: KP.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: What do you think about this the Orioles did with Bradish?
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: I love it. First of all, it's close to home.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: It's my agent. And kind of a cool backstory with
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: it too is his son is now working with him.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: He he you know, he passed all the things he
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: needed to be become an agent. So this was their
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: first deal that they did, father's son side by side.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: So congrats to Scott and Quinn Leventhal. You know they
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: they were he was my agent. Now his son, you know,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: works for him too, So it's a pretty cool backstory.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Love what the Orioles are doing. You know, they got
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Shane Bass signed up to you know, now they have
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Kyle Bradish, you know, for the foreseeable future. To me,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: they might be the most interesting team at the deadline
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: because the Orioles have underperformed the last year and a half.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: That being said, they are only eight games behind the
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Rays in the division. They're two games back of Boston
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: and the wild card. But you talk about a team
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: that has so much talent and so much young talent,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: and potentially they had opportunities over the last couple of
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: years to go out and make some big splashes. They
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: probably could have got a Terrek Scoobel into their rotation
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: for a Jackson Holiday. They've had a lot of big
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: time prospects that they've decided to hold on to. Some
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: of those guys have worked out, some of those guys
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: have not worked out. They still have an abundance of prospects.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Do they decide to go out and move some of
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: these guys? And when you talk to GMS, you know
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: this is the hard thing because you covet these guys
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: and you deal with a lot of the things of
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: them not performing right away, and then when they finally
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: get a chance to get to the big leagues, get
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: established and they start having success, obviously they have trade value.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: And it's a really hard position for the Orioles to
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: be in because they have some of those guys that
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: they've waited their time to be successful at the big
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: league level. Do they believe they have a team to
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: go on and postseason and do something special. I don't know,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: but they're a very interesting team. They are a very
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: interesting team depending on what they do over the next
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: week and a half. I think is gonna be very
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: telling if they go out and try to add some guys,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: or they go out and try to sell off some
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: of these pieces and really start to build for the future.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Started with, you know, a Kyle bradish and a Shane
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Base and their rotation.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Listen and you talk about that that. I agree with
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: you totally. I love everything about it. It's a great,
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: great idea to lock him up, Bradish up. But I've
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: said this a couple of years ago. These young guys, man,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: when are they finally gonna click? I mean Colton Cow's Er, Holiday,
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Jeremiah Jackson, Kobe Mayo, I mean Gonner Henderson. Like listen,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: I was a big component. You needed to trade some
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: of these guys to get some veterans in there. I
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: know they got Pete Alonzo. I know they got a
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: couple guys that are there now, but they had an
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: opportunity to get some guys. These prospects you don't know
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: what you're going to get out of Mostly all these prospects.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: I'm a big component. You don't see the veteran guy anymore.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: It's very tough. It's just not there.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: And they wasted that opportunity to bring in somebody that
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: has done it before. The names were historical, they had
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: the best prospects in baseball, and they didn't really do
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: anything with it. So again, I'm not feeling bad for
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: him on this component. I do think these kids can
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: come in and do well, but the time is ticking
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: for these guys to do well. Baseball is a what
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: have you done for me lately kind of business, and
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: right now it's just it's just not there.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, So let's talk about one guy in particular, and
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: that would be Gunner Henderson. I know that's kind of
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: like a big mystery in baseball right now. It's a
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: lot of the questions, you know, surrounding him. I've read
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: a lot about how he's aggressively chasing. I've just read
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: a lot about his regression this year. Because this was
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: once a guy that you watched a pitt and you
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: were like, damn, he's going to be one of the
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: best hitters, right But this season it's just been dramatically different.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: KP.
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: What do you make of that?
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of it, because you
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: talk about Gunner Henderson and he is, you know, on paper,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: one of the best players in the game. This is
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: a guy you thought, year after year after year would
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: be in the conversation to win an MVP, that's how
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: talent he is. But I think you know when you
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: take a different view at it. I think as someone
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: who played in the major leagues for a long time,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: same with Todd, like, the game is really hard, even
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: for the best players. So the fact that a guy
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: as talented as Gunner Henderson is struggling this year, I
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: don't have the answers for it. This guy's a way
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: better player than I ever dreamed of being. It's it's incredible,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: but I think it just speaks to how difficult it
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: is at the major league level to be successful every
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: single year. This guy is one of the most talented
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: baseball players in the game, hitting two twenty with a
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: six eighty two ops like, it doesn't make any sense
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: to me. It just speaks to how difficult this game
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: is and really how mental this game is. And it's
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: hard for me to speculate because I don't know Gunner.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not around him, I'm not in the clubhouse. But
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: when things aren't going well, obviously the physical tools help,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: but mentally it's really hard when things aren't going well,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: when you know you have that talent, and it's just
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: kind of been this snowball effect. You've just been waiting
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: for him to get going and he just hasn't been
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: able to get it going.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and oh, go ahead, I'll go. But like it's
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: the pitching. I gotta be honest. The pitching has gotten.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: So much better.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: And that's one of the reasons I can't speak for
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: ukp of why I'm not playing in the game in
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: baseball anymore. It's just been so well, I'm not making
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: an excuse, but listen, a lot of these guys, I mean,
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: you look at Fernando Tattoosts junior guy couldn't hit a
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: home run for you know, the time beings got six
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: home runs. So it's like there's some weird things going
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: on in baseball with you know some.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: I think, honestly, that might be the eighteen hundred either way,
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: I think honestly, I think he's gonna be fine, but
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: he has to understand staying in his own maybe doing
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: a little more homework. It's his all speculation as a hitter.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: I remember when I struggled, less is more. I would
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: try and do not as much, just get in the cage.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: And work on little things and not have eight hundred
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: people tell me what to do. So I think he's
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: gonna be fine. It just might be one of those
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: years that, you know, we look back on and hopefully say, oh,
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: remember that year he struggled.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: He's good now.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's too good of a face for the league too.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: I think he's a really nice guy. He's a high
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: character guy.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I've covered him a lot because when I was with
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: the Rays, obviously they played the Orioles nine hundred times
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: a year, but he even talked to the Baltimore Sun
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: about the stretch, saying it was probably one of the
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: most frustrating things he's ever been through.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: Because if you know Gunner, you know.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: That he's got that work ethic behind the scenes, but
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: it's just not translating to the games right now. And
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: then you have to want you hit on this. It's
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: like the mental toll of it, right You step up
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: to the plate every time and you're probably putting so
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: much pressure on yourself and just trying to figure it out.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Do you just drive yourself crazy at some point sometimes
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: when you're going through this.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: This is an interesting take, And obviously you know my
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: story is a little bit different than Gunners. But I mean,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: he's so talented that it's hard when you struggle at
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: the big leagues for the first time. And there used
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: to be this idea that you would spend a little
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: bit more time in the minor leagues and hopefully you
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: struggle there so you learn mentally how to deal with failure.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: He's now really dealing with failure for the first time
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: at the highest level of professional baseball, you know, with
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: the whole world putting this expectation on him, him putting
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: this expectation on him to be an MVP caliber player
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: every year. It's a really difficult thing. What is he
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: He's twenty three years old. It's it's crazy how talented
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: and how quickly these guys get to the big leagues
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: because they're so good. But that's the hard thing is
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: if you have never really struggled at any point in
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: your career, and I can imagine Gunner with how good
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: he is, never in little league, never in high school,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: never in the minor leagues, probably ever struggled, So going
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: through it for the first time at the major leagues
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: is a very difficult thing to do, you know. And
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Todd mentioned there was a time, maybe a year or
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: two years ago, that they had a lot of this
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: young talent. But having a lot of young talent at
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: the big league level at the same time, it can work.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: But you gotta have some veterans in there. You gotta
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: have some guys that have some experience, and I think
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: they potentially missed the ball of bringing in the right
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: guy to maybe play second base or third base next
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: to Gunner to keep him kind of level throughout his
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: playing career.
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: Todd father, are you hitting some games this summer?
• 37:37
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• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, good stuff on the Orioles and Gunner Henderson. Let's
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the Cubs. There's a report
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: they're acquiring Aaron Sevali from the A's guys.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: We know that it's from Jesse Rodgers of ESPN. We
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: know that the Cubs are second, you know, in the
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: NL Central, and.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: We also know that that they are aggressively operating as
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: buyers ahead of the trade line and executing that trade
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: while actively pursuing possibly another trade. There have been reports
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: about Peralta from the Brewers, but Todd, since KP just finished,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: i'll guess you your take on what the Cubs are doing.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: And this Savali.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Report, Yeah, I mean from the looks of if they're
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: acquiring right now, they're they're looking to be buyers.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, at the end of the day, at least.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: From my viewpoint, if you're trading for a guy right now,
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: what is that showing you that that they want to
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: win for one and they're they're looking to add, which
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: I think is great, and they're starting earlier than later.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, I like Aaron Savali, another nice little piece
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: to add to the pitching.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: You know, at the end of the day, I like
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: where the Cubs are at.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: They're playing well, you know, I think they're going to
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: be some team to mess with as they move forward
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: here into the playoffs. Yeah, I think they're gonna keep
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: getting after it, and then there might be some more
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: suitors for as we talked about earlier, say a Suzuki.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, well, it be hard to trade him, yes,
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: but if they're moving pieces around now and picking up
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: guys here and there, there might be an opportunity. But
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: knowing that, I still think he's got a lot of
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: great baseball to play for the Cubs if they don't.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: All right, KP.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: We got to ask you it was your first time
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: visiting the Hall of Fame Museum, Your visit to Cooperstown,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: how was it?
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: It was amazing. I mean it started off, you know,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: I got to go to the Cooperstown the twelve U
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: tournament there, and honestly, I've been able to do a
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: lot of really cool things in my career, a lot
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: of really cool things post career, but being part of
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: that opening day ceremony with ninety four teams, there was
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: absolutely incredible talk about the purest form of baseball, A
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: bunch of twelve year olds getting ready to you know,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: play a six day tournament, staying on campus, being around
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: all these other kids, all you can eat, all you
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: could drink. The cool part You get a chance to
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: talk to all the coaches, remind them their twelve year
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: old kids make this the best experience as possible. And
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: then the next morning I had to get up and
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: get a ride to the actual Baseball Hall of Fame,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: first time I was ever in there. It's an incredible experience.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: I mean the fact that there's just so much history
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: in there, and when you played the game, you have
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: an appreciation I think beyond even the casual fan. The
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: fact that I got the whole Lou Garrig bat I
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: got to see Hank Aaron Jersey. You know, there's so
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: many incredible things that I actually got to hold in
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: my hand, so many things I got to see. Didn't
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: have enough time there because you could literally go room
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: to room reading all the stuff. It's an incredible, incredible experience,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: something I'm fortunate I got a chance to do. I'm
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: thirty seven years old, have never been to the Hall
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: of Fame. The only thing that would have made it
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: better is if I would have been able to bring
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: my dad with me or you know, some of my
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: older kids with me to it. And definitely a place
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I plan on going back, especially when my son has
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: maybe a greater appreciation of the history of the game.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna ask. So my son's twelve,
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: we're going August sixteenth, I'm gonna I'm doing the same
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: exact thing as you're.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Well, you're at the All Star Village, right.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, All Star Village. That's the one a little bit
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: further right. Is that the one that's closer?
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: No, I actually from me, I'm not very sure which ones,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: but I'm looking at your picture here on.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah a Star, Yeah, I was privilege. Is your
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: son playing in it.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll be playing in Augusta.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: It's an incredible experience. The the the opening day ceremony.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: You know, they have this giant hill on the outfield
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: that all the parents come kind of like theme dressed
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: up shooting, you know, and there's kind of like the
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Spirit Award that I was kind of responsible of awarding
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: a team, but all ninety four teams get a chance
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: to kind of go on the field in uniform with
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: their flags, some have mascots. It's just like the purest
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: form of baseball. It takes you back to a time
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: when you play the game because it's so much fun.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Followed that, then they do like a skills competition infield
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: turning double plays. It was like eight teams they do
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: fastest around the diamond base running, and then they do
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: a home run derby and these twelve year olds with
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: these bats were hitting absolute bombs and it was so
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: much fun to watch, you know it. Honestly, it was
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: one of my most favorite things I've ever done. I
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: hope to get a chance to go back kind of
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: as that ambassador, but maybe in six or seven years
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: when my son is old enough. What a dream that
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: would be.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: Making memories with your son in baseball. There's nothing like it.
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: All Right, before we go, let's talk about the mi
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: is real quick.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: He's taking the mountain night for the Brewer to start
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: a highly anticipated three game series against the Mats. We
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: know he missed his last start for the All Star Game.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: He didn't pitch his weekend. Do you guys think that
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: resting him and missing that last start was probably a
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: good move by the Brewers? And what do you expect
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: from him in the second half?
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Yea, I mean they got a little bit, They got
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a sizeable cushion in their division. Obviously,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: a young pitcher, kind of a unicorn in his own too,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: with the velocity that he's pitching at. He's a guy
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: that you know, if he continues at this pace and
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: he continues to make his starts, he's probably gonna win
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: the nlsy young. But what the Brewers decide to do
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: for his long term health for the betterment of this
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: team is going to be a very interesting thing to
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: watch down the stretch. You know, I talked about a
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: lot of the interesting pitchers pitching today, and I took
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of those strikeout props the lowest I could
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: get the mizz with that like eight strikeout, and I
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: wanted to take it, but I I just I'm unsure
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: how Milwaukee is going to use him down the stretch,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: considering they do have that sizeable lead. But anytime they
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: can afford to maybe skip his start or push him
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: back a couple of days, I think it's going to
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: do benefits not only for him, but for Milwaukee down the.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Stretch easily, easily. Seems like everybody needs a quick break
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: here and there. I think he's rearing ready to go
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: for this cy young and he's going to be the
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: dude that you don't want to see come every fifth day.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: So fantastic to watch him and his cronies get after
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: it there in Milwaukee.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: We'll see how he does, but I got a good
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: feeling about it. All right.
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: Let's talk about Corby and Carrol.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Yesterday he was taken out of the game and he's
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: day to day after hyper extending his right elbow during
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: a swing on Sunday in the bottom of the seventh inning.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: They say that it's a minor injury. It's not going
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: to require imaging. At least that was the latest that
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I read.
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: Kip. Have you ever had a hype were extended right elbow.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Unknowingly. I'm sure I have. I'm sure I've done it
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: at some point. I mean, I think the good thing
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: for him is it's it's not his throwing arm, so
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: it's a little bit less concerned. But the way that
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Corbyn Carrol does swing, the fact that it's his right elbow,
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: it is his you know, his bottom hand, and he
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: does tend to release a ton. He's a one handed,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: finished guy. Probably a little bit concerned, but the fact
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: that they don't feel the need to go get it
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: image images of it probably just a day to day
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: thing a couple of days.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: I've had it done three times. I've had three different
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: surgeries sculped on my elbows. You can see I can't
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: even straighten my arm from over swinging, and it's weird.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: It's my right hand too, like this one. I've had
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: it sculpt three times. There's nothing in between my elbow
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: and my try sept area, so it's a pain in
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: the butt.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: It's how you can handle it. It's one of those things.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I've had to put stuff there so I don't hyper
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: extend it over a period of time, but you work
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: through it, hopefully, there's no other damage. Maybe, like I said,
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: at the end of the year, get it kind of
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: cleaned out so you can get all those loose impediments
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: out of there.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: But it's a pain in the butt. It's just annoying,
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: that's all.
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's annoying.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: It kind of seemed like what Corbyn was saying yesterday
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: down playing it a little bit. You know, he talked
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: about how he hyper extended the exact same elbow earlier
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: in the season.
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: At KP, you just said it, you were like, I
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: probably have. I don't know, So it's.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Probably just an annoying thing at this point. But as
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: they said, it should be minor. As you also mentioned KP,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: it's on his non throwing arm.
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: So that should be good news for them. Thank you
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: everyone for watching.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Don't forget to stay on for Dodgers Territory at three
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: pm today on the Dodgers YouTube channel.
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: We'll see you later.