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The "Smither-vent" - Episode 136 - The Price of Theetge · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: If if you have KERCD talk station empty Monday. I
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Speaker 1: always love this time of the week you to talk
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Speaker 1: with a good friend, not just your friend, my friend,
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Speaker 1: friend of the entire greater Cincinnati area. Christopher Smithman, former
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Speaker 1: counselman for the City of Cincinnati and Vice Mayrit's good
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Speaker 1: you have you back on the show, my friend. Love
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Speaker 1: your comments.
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Speaker 2: Thank you brother, thanks for having me on. Before I
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Speaker 2: get started, I'm just a tad bit under the weather,
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Speaker 2: but I'm going to give you everything that I have.
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Speaker 1: You always morning, you always do.
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Speaker 2: And let me also share with you, Brian, that my
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Speaker 2: heart goes out to the Secret Service person who was shot.
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Speaker 2: You know, law enforcement very dangerous job. Our peace officers,
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Speaker 2: no matter what part, whether they're the FBI, tsa Secret
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Speaker 2: Service share or a police officer. I can't name them
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Speaker 2: all that you know, they deserve to go home. And
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Speaker 2: it just reminds us just how bad things can get
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Speaker 2: in a split second. I mean, just to see him
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Speaker 2: running through the barrier. You don't know what is going on,
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Speaker 2: what he's doing. These are split second decisions, right because
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Speaker 2: he could have just been running for his child. He
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Speaker 2: could be just running through there because he hurts you
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Speaker 2: know his mom was having a heart attack upstairs in
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Speaker 2: the hotel. No one, You're trying to make these split
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Speaker 2: second decisions as he's running by in the hotel. And
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Speaker 2: then it wasn't until he discharged his weapon that they're going, Wow,
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Speaker 2: this guy's here to kill people. And now, so you know,
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Speaker 2: that's the part that's so hard for officers, and we
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Speaker 2: got to keep giving them grace because they're making these
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Speaker 2: split second decisions. Imagine if they would have just shot
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Speaker 2: him as he ran through the barrier, and then he
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Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, you shot this guy and
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Speaker 2: he was trying to get upstairs, you could guess, and
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Speaker 2: his mother was having a heart attack on the fifteenth
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Speaker 2: floor whatever, yea. You know, then we'd all be second
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Speaker 2: guessing him, right or second guessing her. So it's like
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Speaker 2: they had to wait to see what his motive was,
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Speaker 2: or not what he was, what his intentions were, and
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Speaker 2: that was squeezing off around into the chest of a
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Speaker 2: secret service person. So luckily that person who was wearing
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Speaker 2: a vess. The last thing I'll say about it, and
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Speaker 2: I've been listening to your show, Look, not all Democrats
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Speaker 2: are doing this this this this very disrespectful language like
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Speaker 2: calling uh President Trump hitler. You know, there are things
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Speaker 2: that President Trump says or does that I don't like. Like,
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Speaker 2: you know, there's language that he uses that I don't like.
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Speaker 2: You know, there so, but there are ways to communicate
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Speaker 2: that without calling him a dictator or calling him hitler.
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Speaker 2: And the problem is that's part of the media, and
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Speaker 2: I'm not I don't know what part of it or
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Speaker 2: what Some wing of the Democratic Party just keeps pressing
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Speaker 2: the envelope and it's causing this. These people out here
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Speaker 2: who are mentally off to take these kinds of actions.
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Speaker 2: And I just believe that, and I pray this is
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Speaker 2: a third time someone has tried to kill our president.
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Speaker 2: When I say our president to your listening audience, whoever
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Speaker 2: the president is, it's an office. You respect the office
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Speaker 2: of the president, no matter who's in there. And so
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Speaker 2: calling your president or our president hitler as one example,
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Speaker 2: is just unacceptable behavior.
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Speaker 1: Well, I agree with you completely, it is. But you've
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Speaker 1: got to remember, Christopher, in this Internet day and age
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Speaker 1: click and memes, soft language does not translate into clicks.
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Speaker 1: You got to have a headline that says, you know,
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Speaker 1: so and so called Trump an MF word, or you know,
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Speaker 1: when you got a senator actually dropping f bombs in
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Speaker 1: anger over something Trump or his administration does, that's what's
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Speaker 1: going to get you clicks. This angry rhetoric is what
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Speaker 1: results in people actually clicking on it and getting whatever
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Speaker 1: boiled down nonsensical rendition of the news they read. When
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Speaker 1: they read that clickbait, all they'll remember us.
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Speaker 2: That's the truth saying is the absolute truth strategy. And
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Speaker 2: all the press were there, all in one room to
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Speaker 2: see what that clickbait could do, because if he had
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Speaker 2: gotten beyond those doors, right, he probably would have opened fire,
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Speaker 2: and he just wouldn't have hit cabinet members, he would
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Speaker 2: have hit anybody that he saw, right. And this should
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Speaker 2: also be a message to anybody who doesn't like law
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Speaker 2: enforcement who says, let's reimagine it, let's let's defund it.
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Speaker 2: Those people on the other side of that door, who
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Speaker 2: were Democrats who might have that perspective, I guarantee you
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Speaker 2: they are happy this morning that the Secret Service and
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Speaker 2: their advanced teams and police were all outside to stop
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Speaker 2: that person, because if they had gotten on the other
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Speaker 2: side of that door, it would have been a totally
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Speaker 2: different message, a totally different situation. We would be having
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Speaker 2: a total different discussion today. That's what sometimes is frustrating
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Speaker 2: to meet, Like will the media wake up today? All
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Speaker 2: of them, CNN, Politico, MSNBC, they all were there. Will
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Speaker 2: they all get on and say, I just want to
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Speaker 2: thank the Secret Service because what you've been doing is
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Speaker 2: trying to defund them. You've been saying you don't want
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Speaker 2: to fund them, you don't want to give them money,
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Speaker 2: you don't like them. They're terrible people. They just saved
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Speaker 2: your life, they just saved your lights. Will they give
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Speaker 2: them that at least today?
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Speaker 1: Don't count on it? Christopher Smithen let's pause. We bring
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Speaker 1: Christopher back for more random thoughts and spleen vent the
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Speaker 1: seven twenty six right now, if you have KARCD talk station,
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Speaker 1: do what I did do with my wife and I
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Speaker 1: did actually give credit to Paul Ed calling Gregory Luster
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Speaker 1: our yard last year and got some work to do
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Speaker 1: this year. We're gonna call Gregor.
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Speaker 3: Can you find k the talk station.
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Speaker 1: Seven thirty one If if you have KRCD talk station,
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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas talking with former Vice Mayor of the City
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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, Christopher Smithman. Doing the smither event. As we joking,
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Speaker 1: we'd like to refer to it. Christopher Smithman, what else
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Speaker 1: is on your mind? If I had to guess, I
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Speaker 1: think I might know, but go ahead.
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Speaker 2: No, it's it's ours.
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Speaker 3: You know, Chief Fiji last week was terminated. She was
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Speaker 3: terminated by an email that was sent to her after
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Speaker 3: thirty five years of service. You know, I don't know
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Speaker 3: the best way to do it with dignity, but I
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Speaker 3: can tell you if I were the city manager, I
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Speaker 3: would have picked the phone up. I would have called
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Speaker 3: her and I would have said, this is the decision
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Speaker 3: that I'm making. I wouldn't have given a lot.
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Speaker 2: Of words, but the chief would have heard my voice
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Speaker 2: and then I would have sent the email. You know
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Speaker 2: what by sending the email, because the email is passive
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Speaker 2: Brian Thomas, and to your listening audience, what can easily
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Speaker 2: happen is because she's sending the email not just to her,
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Speaker 2: but to the news that you don't know where that
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Speaker 2: she is. The chief just looks up at the TV
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Speaker 2: and says, Wow, I've been fired and I didn't know it.
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Speaker 2: I know it's talked to me. You know, they just
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Speaker 2: don't understand how to just manage HR with dignity. It's
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Speaker 2: like they're fearful to make the right calls. And I
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Speaker 2: say the calls, meaning the phone calls. But the most
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Speaker 2: riveting thing about it all was the press conference last
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Speaker 2: week by by Chief DG's attorneys and the revelation that
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Speaker 2: they had recorded right this meeting that they had with
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Speaker 2: the city manager two weeks ago, this quote appeal that
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Speaker 2: really just was a kangaroo kind of court because they
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Speaker 2: didn't really they didn't ask any questions. I listened to
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Speaker 2: the entire tape an hour and forty five minutes, and
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Speaker 2: the city manager, their attorneys, or no one in the
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Speaker 2: room asked one question. I don't even know if they
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Speaker 2: knew that the meeting was being recorded, but at the
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Speaker 2: end of the but at the end of the day,
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Speaker 2: because it makes them look really incompetent. It makes them
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Speaker 2: look like anybody, Joe is going to post that, Brian
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Speaker 2: Thomas on your website. Anybody can go there and listen
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Speaker 2: to it. The man who's asking the questions is Chief
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Speaker 2: FIG's lawyer. He says, here's the allegation in Chief Figi's
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Speaker 2: answering her lawyers questions. No one from the city asked
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Speaker 2: her one question during that earing, and what was so
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Speaker 2: riveting is she's the insights that she gave in her answers.
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Speaker 2: One of those insights that she gave to me was
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Speaker 2: that three c DC had come up with a plan, right,
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Speaker 2: not the city manager, not the mayor, but three c DC.
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Speaker 2: And the chief said, listen, I don't support this. I
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Speaker 2: think this is the wrong move. Steve Leiper I consider
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Speaker 2: a friend. But she said, hey, listen, this is not
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Speaker 2: the right direction. We can't put all of our resources
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Speaker 2: in one neighborhood. We've got fifty two neighborhoods, not just downtown, right,
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Speaker 2: and this is going to be stressful all my cops,
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Speaker 2: my cribs are already stressed out.
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Speaker 1: And wait a second, real quick here lost in the
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Speaker 1: fog of this and when I read Fox News account
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Speaker 1: of Fiji being let know that let go the national headline,
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Speaker 1: which was at the top of the scroll on Fox News'
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Speaker 1: own website, nationally anti white police chief fired. And they
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Speaker 1: just basically relied completely on what was outlined in the
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Speaker 1: city manager's memorandum. And I thought that that didn't help
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Speaker 1: her much. But the idea that she rejected this safety plan,
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Speaker 1: we aren't we talking about the one where the Governor
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Speaker 1: de Wine offers all the resources for the Ohio State
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Speaker 1: Patrol basically offers them every day of the week without
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Speaker 1: additional charge. Here, you can take them and use them
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Speaker 1: as you see fit. That's what Fiji was upset about
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Speaker 1: because the mayor and whoever made the decision said, no,
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Speaker 1: we're going to take them what for one weekend a
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Speaker 1: month or something. Wasn't that the plan that Fiji was
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Speaker 1: not embracing. She wanted all of the resources that were
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Speaker 1: being offered.
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Speaker 2: She did, and that came o out in that interview.
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Speaker 2: And what was so chilling about it is she said,
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Speaker 2: I went to a meeting and council member and Chair
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Speaker 2: of Law and Public Safety Scottie Johnson and Irish Rollie
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Speaker 2: were present for this meeting with the mayor and the manager,
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Speaker 2: and they were the ones that were cutting and saying
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Speaker 2: they did not want the governor's staffing involved because they
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Speaker 2: weren't trained and they weren't a part of the collaborative agreement.
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Speaker 2: So the chief was saying in her back and forth,
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Speaker 2: listen in a nice way. The person who was really
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Speaker 2: running this was Scottie Johnson and Irish Rollie, and they
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Speaker 2: were the ones that were saying, hey, this can't come
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Speaker 2: to the city right because they're not trained. That was
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Speaker 2: the pushback. This is why my petition is so important,
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Speaker 2: because I've been saying there are too many hands on
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Speaker 2: the man that we can't see. And by what the
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Speaker 2: petition does, it's like a subfarine Brian Thomas. It brings
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Speaker 2: out the people that are already making these decisions, but
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Speaker 2: it puts them in the light on the wreck. All
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Speaker 2: can see it and on the record. They're not in
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Speaker 2: some conference room at District one directing the chief not
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Speaker 2: to bring in assets and then making it look like
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Speaker 2: the chief is the one making the decision. She's falling
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Speaker 2: on the night. That's what's happening. The other thing that
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Speaker 2: was very telling, and she said the mayor, I heard
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Speaker 2: you this morning. Ye the mayor said your job, city manager,
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Speaker 2: your job city manager or the chief. I've always said
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Speaker 2: to you, the mayor has had his hands on all
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Speaker 2: of this.
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Speaker 1: And that claim by Chief Thiji about what was said
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Speaker 1: during that conversation flight directly in the face of what
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Speaker 1: Purvoll's saying now, which is I didn't have a damn
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Speaker 1: thing to do with it. Will bring Christopher back to
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Speaker 1: give us some more details. Seven thirty seven. Right now at.
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Speaker 2: Talk station.
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Speaker 1: Here fifty five KERC. It's the smithervent Christopher smithment for
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Speaker 1: a vice mayor of the city. Since I we're diving
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Speaker 1: through the Fiji firing details and course, one of the
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Speaker 1: more interesting thing is, in spite of the fact that
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Speaker 1: the City of since I hired two law firms to
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Speaker 1: do a review of their placing her on administrative leave,
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Speaker 1: I guess looking for some reason to justify her being
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Speaker 1: placed on administrative leave, and they really pretty much came
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Speaker 1: up with nothing. And then when they fired her, they
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Speaker 1: didn't cite anything that was released by Frost Brown Todd's
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Speaker 1: review or the second law firm, this Jackson Lewis law firm.
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Speaker 1: And we're still scratching our head over what the hell
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Speaker 1: Jackson Lewis did, except for maybe providing some advanced legal
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Speaker 1: advice on litigation, most notably is going to follow up
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Speaker 1: the firing a police chief Fiji. But what the hell
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Speaker 1: was the point of that exercise? The city taxpayers are
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Speaker 1: out about one hundred and grand and we don't seem
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Speaker 1: to have gotten anything in return for it.
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Speaker 2: Christopher, I agree with you so much. I mean This
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Speaker 2: is yet another example of why the petition we believe
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Speaker 2: is the penicillin. I keep coming back to it because
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Speaker 2: we have an opportunity to do something about it in
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Speaker 2: the future. You know, if this had gone before council,
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Speaker 2: council members would have asked city manager, why are you
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Speaker 2: terminating the police chief. Notice I'm not using a name.
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Speaker 2: I'm dealing with positions. So this is a future position
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Speaker 2: where I say, hey, city manager, why are you doing this?
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Speaker 2: And then we flush it out in the public or
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Speaker 2: they go into executive session. But you're not hiring a
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Speaker 2: law firm or two law firms to determine after you
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Speaker 2: terminate the police chief why you terminated the police chief? Right,
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Speaker 2: and for those positions, that's the crazy part about it, right.
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Speaker 1: And for those who are so well, wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: what petition, Maybe they haven't been keeping up on it.
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Speaker 1: You drafted and are circulated petition amend the city charter
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Speaker 1: to require and when you're ever hiring a police or
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Speaker 1: fire chief or firing a police or fire chief, that's
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Speaker 1: to the nine council members must approve or disapprove or
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Speaker 1: whatever they have to approve, because get a fire police
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Speaker 1: if seven council members have to rubber stamp that or
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Speaker 1: at least get involved in the process of hiring and firing.
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Speaker 1: I think that's an outstanding thing. Going back to your
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Speaker 1: point in the last segment, which is personal public accountability,
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Speaker 1: you have an elected official that made a decision. So
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Speaker 1: to the extent you're not happy with it or are
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Speaker 1: happy about it, you can either reward them or not
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Speaker 1: by voting.
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Speaker 2: And notice Brian Thomas, in the conversation that is now
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Speaker 2: going to be posted on your website for everybody to
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Speaker 2: listen to. That interview between Chief Fiji and her lawyer
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Speaker 2: is important again to set this up that the city
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Speaker 2: manager and her lawyers were all in the room. They
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Speaker 2: just didn't ask a question. So her lawyer was interviewing her,
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Speaker 2: responding to all of the accusations, right, and so in
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Speaker 2: there she says, the mayor was in that meeting, The
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Speaker 2: mayor was in that meeting, the mayor was in this meeting.
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Speaker 2: The mayor is directing all of these things when it's
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Speaker 2: the city manager's job. But he's telling you he doesn't
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Speaker 2: know anything is going on. That's the problem, meaning I speculated,
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Speaker 2: but he even took the next step. She said, the mayor,
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Speaker 2: this is this is This is what Chief Fiji's legal
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Speaker 2: team is saying that the manager was told you fire
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Speaker 2: I'm going to fire you, or you're going to fire
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Speaker 2: the chief. That is absolutely an abusive power. Let me
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Speaker 2: clarify a point two. First of all, a council member
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Speaker 2: Scotti Johnson, who is the chair of Law and Public Safety,
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Speaker 2: has a right to be in those meetings. I think
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Speaker 2: it's a good thing that he's in those meetings. He's
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Speaker 2: an elected official and he's trying to figure out what's
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Speaker 2: going on, So it'll be clear about that. And I
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Speaker 2: think that that council member, Scottie Johnson, I personally think
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Speaker 2: that he could be a candidate for mayor. I'm just
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Speaker 2: throwing it out, but let me make it clear here
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Speaker 2: where I disagree with a council member is that those
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Speaker 2: discussions should have been in his committee, meaning instead of
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Speaker 2: it being in the conference room. When you're talking about
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Speaker 2: are we going to use the governor's assets or not?
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Speaker 2: That was a very important conversation. Why are you having
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Speaker 2: it on the outside of the public because it's our
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Speaker 2: safety that we were worried about, and now we know
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Speaker 2: they're in some conference room discussing it. And by the
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Speaker 2: way saying we don't want them here, but we didn't
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Speaker 2: know who was blocking it. Now we know that possibly
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Speaker 2: based on what counsel. What Chief Fiji is saying is
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Speaker 2: that council members Scottie Johnson did not want them to come,
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Speaker 2: and that Irish Rolli was in that room and didn't
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Speaker 2: want them to come. And these are all people who
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Speaker 2: are making safety decisions about our city and we shouldn't
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Speaker 2: have that do everybody should know about what's going on.
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Speaker 2: And I thought her point, Chief Fiji, and that tape
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Speaker 2: she said, I don't like that missus Irish Rollie is
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Speaker 2: intervening on police business. She dealt with that in that
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Speaker 2: hour forty five minutes, saying hey, we didn't know where
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Speaker 2: the chief was on that issue. She was saying, I
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Speaker 2: don't want her showing up to a scene and interjecting
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Speaker 2: herself in that. That's not good for our police department.
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Speaker 2: I'm saying. There's so many rich statements that she was making.
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Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, Chief Fiji's going
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Speaker 2: to be victorious. She's going to get paid a lot
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Speaker 2: of money because the city, the city manager, the mayor,
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Speaker 2: the members of council were very floppy, very period.
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Speaker 1: Well, hold on, Chris, we have a couple more items
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Speaker 1: want to get through on this very important issue for
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Speaker 1: the city and one that I certainly believe supports your
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Speaker 1: efforts and getting the charter change to require council members involvement.
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Speaker 1: I hope the signature gathering goes well. And if you're
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Speaker 1: a resident of the City of Cincinnati, get the signature.
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Speaker 2: Give me five krs the talk station.
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Speaker 1: It's seven fifty to fifty five k se detalk station.
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Speaker 1: A very happy Monday to Brian Thomas with Christopher Smiman
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Speaker 1: kind of going through the police Chief FIGI firing and
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Speaker 1: the inevitable lawsuit and probably going to pay a whole
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Speaker 1: lot of money. And you know the great thing about
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Speaker 1: the Austin, Christopher, is all of the conversations behind the
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Speaker 1: scenes when I'll be subject to discovery. Was irishly there?
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Speaker 1: Did she say anything? Did she, you know, speaking directly
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Speaker 1: to Mare have to have purval? Did you have any
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Speaker 1: say in the firing of police chief DJ He did
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Speaker 1: come out and say she demanded seven point five million
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Speaker 1: dollars to walk away from it. How did he know
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Speaker 1: about that? During the period of time when she was
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Speaker 1: being held in sub scrutiny.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know her and her lawyer spoke to that, right,
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Speaker 2: he said he thought that act was criminal because they
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Speaker 2: were so I'm not a lawyer, you are and your
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Speaker 2: beautiful bride, but he I mean about Chief Dji's lawyer
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Speaker 2: said this was supposed to be a confidential settlement meeting
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Speaker 2: and that him breaching that was criminal. I don't know that.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's criminal or not, but that
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Speaker 2: was the work that was used. Like they're saying, we're
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Speaker 2: going to go after him for releasing that information.
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Speaker 1: Well, and you know, if it was a confidential settlement agreement,
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Speaker 1: I guess I have to ask myself why would he
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Speaker 1: even be part of it if the sole responsibility for
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Speaker 1: hiring and firing lays in the city manager's hands. In
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Speaker 1: other words, he's now he had nothing to do with it.
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Speaker 1: He's claiming that. Listen, I don't have any role in
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Speaker 1: hiring and firing. That's a city manager's job. I don't
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Speaker 1: touch it. But he's involved in something like that and
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Speaker 1: yet has no control over it.
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Speaker 2: Bryan, it gets this is this is going to get
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Speaker 2: really bad. I would suggest any member of council, anybody
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Speaker 2: who we're discussing they probably should get a lawyer, because
19:25
Speaker 2: I would anticipate that the Fenny Law firm is going
19:28
Speaker 2: to ask for depositions of all of these people, right,
19:32
Speaker 2: and when one person starts telling a lie, somebody ends
19:35
Speaker 2: up in serious trouble. Right, So everybody's not gonna lie
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Speaker 2: right here, we had a meeting. What did you hear?
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Speaker 2: I assume that they're going to request all emails, text messages,
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Speaker 2: post it notes, you know, all of that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 2: And if there's any message from the mayor about the
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Speaker 2: police chiefs, that's improper. If there's any messages from members
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Speaker 2: of council to the to the chief or to the
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Speaker 2: city manager about this, it's improper because they're all saying
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Speaker 2: I don't know anything, we can't get anything on the record,
20:07
Speaker 2: and that there lies the petition. The petition will be
20:10
Speaker 2: ready sometime this week and citizens who live in the
20:14
Speaker 2: city of Cincinnati, and only those who are in the
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Speaker 2: city can circulate. And we've got to get seven thousand
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Speaker 2: good signatures, and there'll be lots of people out there
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Speaker 2: collecting signatures. This is not going to be driven by
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Speaker 2: Christopher Smitheman. So I don't even want to own it
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Speaker 2: that way, but you know, lots of people will be
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Speaker 2: out there collecting them, taking them to their church festivals
20:34
Speaker 2: and to their churches and taking them to their different
20:37
Speaker 2: you know, holiday events. And I feel confident that this
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Speaker 2: energy around it, we're gonna we're gonna successfully get the signatures.
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Speaker 2: The question is going to be the mayor has already
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Speaker 2: gone on records saying he's against it. You know, he
20:50
Speaker 2: says that my petition makes this more political? How can
20:54
Speaker 2: it be more political than it is now?
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Speaker 1: Right? Unaccounted, unaccountable behind the scenes, folks that the voters
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Speaker 1: have no idea, are involved in the decision making, that
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Speaker 1: they can't vote out of office or otherwise have any
21:07
Speaker 1: control over the removal. They're the ones involved in the process.
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Speaker 1: I'd say that is highly political, far more so than
21:12
Speaker 1: at public discourse with city council members and making these
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Speaker 1: important decisions.
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Speaker 2: Christopher, I do, and I'm so frustrated that every time
21:22
Speaker 2: we go and ask a member of council right now,
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Speaker 2: they tell us they don't know, they have no idea.
21:28
Speaker 2: What's going on? Now? Will there be somebody from the
21:32
Speaker 2: media go and approach, you know, missus Irish Rowley respectfully
21:37
Speaker 2: and say were you in this meeting and were you
21:40
Speaker 2: against the governor bringing the assets into the city of Society.
21:44
Speaker 2: Did you weigh in on that big decision because lives
21:49
Speaker 2: were on the line, we were talking about securing downtown.
21:53
Speaker 2: We had a shooter on Fountain Square, opening fire off
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Speaker 2: the square and on the square last summer. Why do
22:01
Speaker 2: we have someone who has no police background right in
22:06
Speaker 2: a meeting like that telling her opinion about, Hey, I
22:11
Speaker 2: don't think this should happen. I mean, the one of
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Speaker 2: the things I can say about council Member Scottie Johnson
22:16
Speaker 2: is he's a retired police officer, right, and so when
22:19
Speaker 2: he starts talking about police issues, I listen because I'm
22:23
Speaker 2: not a retired police officer. And he's also an elected official.
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Speaker 2: He's also Chair of Law and Public Safety, so it
22:31
Speaker 2: makes sense that he would be a part of a
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Speaker 2: meeting like that. I don't understand why she would be
22:35
Speaker 2: there and why she would be asserting the collaborative agreement.
22:39
Speaker 2: People are dying in our street. To the public, we
22:41
Speaker 2: need officers, whether it's our sheriffs, whether it's whether it's
22:46
Speaker 2: the governor's assets in order to make sure things like
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Speaker 2: the October Fest, things like the Pride Parade, Downtown Opening Day,
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Speaker 2: those events are safe. It's not about the collabor agreement,
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Speaker 2: right It's not about that. Right now, we have special
23:03
Speaker 2: events that we need extra coverage for it, and we've
23:06
Speaker 2: got to make sure that our guests are safe. That's
23:09
Speaker 2: the discussion. That's the discussion, and our common sense has
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Speaker 2: to weigh in. Thank you, Brian Thomas. I want to
23:16
Speaker 2: salute Chief Fiji and Chief Washington. Chief Washington's decision, Brian
23:21
Speaker 2: will come down next month about the three panel judge.
23:24
Speaker 2: I believe that this is unfortunate that the city manager
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Speaker 2: the lower court has said that she's personally liable. I
23:31
Speaker 2: think they're going to go to trial. I think they're
23:33
Speaker 2: going to be twelve in the box for Chief Washington.
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Speaker 2: And I'm thinking now that I know that you know
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Speaker 2: this is public that Chi Fiji was asking for seven
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Speaker 2: point five million, Look for Chief Washington to be asking
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Speaker 2: for north of that. The number range is bet I
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Speaker 2: was like two or three million, and like seven point.
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Speaker 1: Five get over in place. You bet on poly market
23:55
Speaker 1: before you can't do that anymore. Christopher Smith will do
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Speaker 1: this again next Monday. Take care man, Thanks for you,
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Thanks every week coming up with seven fifty
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Speaker 1: seven