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Coby Mayo hits HUGE homer, Orioles finally beat the Yankees · Birdland Territory

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Speaker 1: Well, no doubt that one felt good throughout Birdland. The
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Speaker 1: Orioles beat the Yankees three to two and a likely hero,
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Speaker 1: Kobe Mayo with a three run homer. You never can
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Speaker 1: predict baseball if that's another night that proves that, guys.
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Speaker 1: As the Orioles ended a nine game losing streak to
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Speaker 1: the Yankees, they had only been four and thirteen in
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Speaker 1: this series since the start of twenty twenty five. They
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Speaker 1: needed to show they could beat them, and they did.
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Speaker 1: Now we're going to see the rest of this series.
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Speaker 1: I think it's really important, guys, And by the way,
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Speaker 1: welcome everybody into Birdland territory with Steve, Brad and Tim
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Speaker 1: important that they win this series. They eat out one
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Speaker 1: more somehow, two would be spectacular. One would be a
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Speaker 1: series victory. What are your guys' impressions of Monday Night's victory.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, it's winning that first game of the
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Speaker 2: series always seems to make it just a little bit
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Speaker 2: easier to try to win the series. And I just
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Speaker 2: got to win one of the next two and kind
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Speaker 2: of get some momentum moving forward.
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Speaker 3: But big win last night.
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Speaker 2: You know, they came and scored late in the game
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Speaker 2: and great homer by Kobe there last night.
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Speaker 3: You got to feel good for the guy.
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Speaker 2: You could tell how excited he was and just kind
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Speaker 2: of a cyber relaf after making that era last week
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Speaker 2: and kind of ending that game there in Miami. So
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Speaker 2: great all round win the bullpen, great shutdown game for
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Speaker 2: them also, and just a really really good win, and
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Speaker 2: hopefully you can carry some of the momentum into the
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Speaker 2: next couple of games.
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Speaker 4: Steve, it was funny you made the point in the
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Speaker 4: press box last night where it was probably right around
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Speaker 4: when Kobe Mayo hit that three run homer, where he said, man,
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Speaker 4: it feels like the Yankees they're really dominating this game,
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Speaker 4: but you're a bloop and a blast away from tying
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Speaker 4: it up and low and bold. It ended up being
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Speaker 4: a weaver Kobe Mayo hitting the three run shot. It
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Speaker 4: was more of a here we go again through the
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Speaker 4: first six innings where oh my god, another lefty. The
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Speaker 4: Orioles were zero to nine against left handed starters heading
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Speaker 4: into last night, and here's Ryan Weathers, who he was
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Speaker 4: under the weather.
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Speaker 5: That's why he had to miss a couple of days.
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Speaker 4: His last start was against the Orioles in the Bronx
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Speaker 4: and he was fantastic.
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Speaker 5: The first six innings, no hit.
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Speaker 4: He ended up walking Taylor Ward to start the game,
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Speaker 4: and then he retired twelve straight batters. But the Orioles
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Speaker 4: found a way, and hey, you know, after we were
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Speaker 4: doing the show on Sunday where it was pitching in defense,
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Speaker 4: it was kind of more of the same. You saw
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Speaker 4: some strong defensive plays. The bullpen was absolutely nails. Late
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Speaker 4: in that game, Brandon Young didn't have his a stuff,
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Speaker 4: but all in all, going five and a third, it
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Speaker 4: was a really solid outing for him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was much needed. The Oriols get Game one
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Speaker 1: of the series against the Yankees. Hey, we're glad so
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Speaker 1: keep subscribing to Birdland territory. So, guys, before Kobe Mayo
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Speaker 1: had his big night, he was batting just one fifty
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Speaker 1: eight one hundred and ten played appearances. In his previous
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Speaker 1: twelve games, he was three for thirty two with an
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Speaker 1: ops of one to eighty five. That's the ops one
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Speaker 1: eighty five. Since he hit three homers in a three
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Speaker 1: game span April twenty one through twenty four, he had
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Speaker 1: gone thirteen games without one. So yes, he was an
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Speaker 1: unlikely hero and he got a pitch that I'm sure
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Speaker 1: the pitcher would want back. But here's the thing. You
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Speaker 1: still got to hit it, and you got to hit
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Speaker 1: it over the wall, and Kobe did that. If if
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Speaker 1: every mistake pitch ended up over the wall, the major
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Speaker 1: league home run leader would have one hundred and fifty.
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Speaker 1: They don't. So Brad, you hope that can mean a
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Speaker 1: lot to Kobe is for one night, it certainly did.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, without a doubt. Like I mentioned before, his reaction
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Speaker 2: told me everything.
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Speaker 3: It was.
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Speaker 2: He was so pumped to hit that homer, and you
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Speaker 2: could tell it wasn't just for him, it was to
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Speaker 2: help the team. And I think that's the biggest thing
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Speaker 2: I got out of that whole thing, was he got
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Speaker 2: the pitch he was kind of looking for. It was
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Speaker 2: a hangar, but like you said, you have to hit it,
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Speaker 2: and he hit it and it was in a big spot.
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Speaker 2: Gave them the lead, and you could just tell when
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Speaker 2: he went in the dugout as he crossed home plate.
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Speaker 2: I thought he almost broke Buck Britain's hand at third
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Speaker 2: base as he went by, giving him a high five there.
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Speaker 3: So it was just really good to see.
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Speaker 2: And I kind of mentioned to you guys this morning,
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Speaker 2: it's like I've heard about Coils here and there, and
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Speaker 2: it's like, you think he's twenty seven to twenty eight.
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Speaker 2: He's still only twenty four years old and he got
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Speaker 2: called up when he was twenty two. It's just amazing
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Speaker 2: at the youth of this team still, with all the
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Speaker 2: guys that I had to go look at the roster
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Speaker 2: to see and it's like every main guy is twenty
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Speaker 2: four younger. At Lee's being twenty eight, he's like one
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Speaker 2: of the older guys on the roster. It's just it's
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Speaker 2: amazing to see that. You know that the pressure put
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Speaker 2: on these guys at such a young age. It had
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Speaker 2: to feel like a monkey got taken off his back
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Speaker 2: last night when he hit that home run.
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Speaker 4: I feel like we've talked a lot in recent episodes
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Speaker 4: guys that we love it, fans love it when players
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Speaker 4: take accountability, and we've heard Craig Albernas do that. We've
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Speaker 4: heard Pete Alonso, Gunner Henderson, Chris Bassett. Well, when Kobe
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Speaker 4: Mayo made that throwing error at the end of that
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Speaker 4: Marlin series that ended up leading to a walk off,
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Speaker 4: he didn't duck the media. You know, he stood there
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Speaker 4: and he explained what happened during that play, what he
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Speaker 4: wished transpired. And I really respected that, and I think
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Speaker 4: anyone can respect that. And I thought it was really
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Speaker 4: cool being at the yard last night, seeing that moment
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Speaker 4: and seeing him initially with Kevin and Benn on the
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Speaker 4: mass and broadcast and him saying, look, I haven't through
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Speaker 4: in enough of those big spots, but gosh, you could
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Speaker 4: just tell what it meant for him, and then being
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Speaker 4: in the clubhouse when he was talking to the reporters,
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Speaker 4: just him saying, I forget who asked him, but like,
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Speaker 4: who did you lean on?
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Speaker 5: You know, friend's family brought up his dog.
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Speaker 4: You know, he said, my dog, Ejac committed the error.
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Speaker 4: You know, my dog has no idea. I was zero
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Speaker 4: for four with four strikeouts, and you know, it was
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Speaker 4: just such a weight off his shoulders. It was really
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Speaker 4: really cool to see last night following that game.
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Speaker 1: It was And there's so much pressure on these young kids.
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Speaker 1: And Brad, you're right. I mean, Kobe was a high
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Speaker 1: school pick, so you can get there a little sooner
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Speaker 1: than a college junior. You're younger like he was, and
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Speaker 1: you don't have some of the experience the college rafted
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Speaker 1: guys may have over their careers. And so now in
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Speaker 1: this day and age of prospects, your top one hundred,
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Speaker 1: everybody knows your name, everybody knows your stats. Back when
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Speaker 1: I was a kid, we didn't know what some of
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Speaker 1: these guys look like till they got and we saw
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Speaker 1: them on TV. Very different now, so much pressure, and
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Speaker 1: I'm always impressed with how the young guys handle all
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Speaker 1: that fame and fortune because everybody knows their name before
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Speaker 1: they play a game in the major leagues.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and to me too, what goes into that is,
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Speaker 2: like you mentioned, was the experience factor. A lot of times,
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Speaker 2: like when I was coming up, when you got the
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Speaker 2: Triple A, you're facing guys who were men. They were
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Speaker 2: grown men in their thirties, they have families, they're up
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Speaker 2: and down, they've traveled this long journey.
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Speaker 3: Now in Triple A.
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Speaker 2: When I was playing my last season, I was almost
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Speaker 2: ten years older than almost everybody in the bullpen I
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Speaker 2: was sitting with.
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Speaker 3: It's just changed a lot.
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Speaker 2: These guys have a lot thrown their way at such
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Speaker 2: a young age that when they don't have this in
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Speaker 2: sixty instant success, it's like they want to get rid
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Speaker 2: of them. And it's like, man, this guy's only twenty
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Speaker 2: four years old. Like I was mentioned to you, guys,
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Speaker 2: I was twenty five and I got called up for
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Speaker 2: the first time. I know I was a college junior
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Speaker 2: late round pick, but I had basically three full seasons
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Speaker 2: in the minor leagues as a twenty two year old
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Speaker 2: when I got drafted. So the fact that these guys
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Speaker 2: come up at twenty two and they're just thrown into
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Speaker 2: the spotlight, expected to contribute right away, it's just it's amazing.
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Speaker 2: And this day and is with the social media and
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Speaker 2: like you said, the top one hundred prospects, everybody just
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Speaker 2: knows everything about you. So when you get up you
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Speaker 2: don't have this instant success, it's like, what's going on
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Speaker 2: this guy's supposed to be this big time home run hitter,
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Speaker 2: he's supposed to hit three hundred, he's supposed to all
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Speaker 2: this stuff, and it's like, man, just give him a
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Speaker 2: little bit of time.
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Speaker 3: He just needs to get comfortable.
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Speaker 4: It really is an interesting discussion, and I think we
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Speaker 4: could do multiple episodes on this and then Steve you
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Speaker 4: know more than anyone, just knowing that the Oriole's minor
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Speaker 4: league system inside and out, and I'm sure just from
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Speaker 4: your time beginning to cover that just to where it's
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Speaker 4: at right now fans, and I feel like this really
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Speaker 4: ramped up quite frankly when the twenty eighteen team ended
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Speaker 4: up getting blown up at the All Star deadline and
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Speaker 4: then Michael Lias coming in and you're going through that rebuild.
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Speaker 4: You know that there's going to be tough times, and
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Speaker 4: it certainly was for multiple years of losing over one
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Speaker 4: hundred games in Baltimore. But what got fans to buy
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Speaker 4: in were these prospecs, were these high draft picks, and
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Speaker 4: I think, especially in Baltimore, that's what you would look towards.
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Speaker 4: You you're looking towards the future instead of the present.
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Speaker 4: And obviously that has since changed since the Orioles have
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Speaker 4: gotten competitive, but you know, you knew all the guys
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Speaker 4: coming up and the Orioles, gosh, they had countless guys
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Speaker 4: on Top one.
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Speaker 5: Hundred prospects list. And now MLB TV, all these games.
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Speaker 4: Are televised in del Marva and Frederick in Norfolk, and
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Speaker 4: the exposure and I think it's really really cool, But
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Speaker 4: it is kind of that double edged sword where I
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Speaker 4: think there's that added pressure on these guys where not
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Speaker 4: every prospect pans out, not every top one hundred guy
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Speaker 4: ends up having a career, and then on the flip side,
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Speaker 4: you have the undrafted guy, you have the guy that
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Speaker 4: comes out of nowhere that is a multiple time All Star.
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Speaker 5: It's just kind of a crapshoot.
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Speaker 1: It's uh ten years ago, I was the only one
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Speaker 1: going to places like Frederick and Bowie, and now every
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Speaker 1: outlet has stories. I've run into people from other outlets
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Speaker 1: when they go to minor league games. Everybody's got a podcast,
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Speaker 1: everybody's in a Top thirty. It's exploded. So I'm happy
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Speaker 1: for the minor league kids who have coverage now. At
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Speaker 1: the same time, the double edged sword is the more
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Speaker 1: coverage means the more expectation when you get there, fans
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Speaker 1: want you to do it today immediately two weeks in,
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Speaker 1: he's a bust. What happened to this kid? And sometimes
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Speaker 1: it takes a lot longer than that. So we all
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Speaker 1: feel good for Kobe Mayo, and I know orio fans,
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Speaker 1: even the ones that criticized him do, because he's been
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Speaker 1: through a lot and he had a big night. So
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Speaker 1: congrats to Kobe Mayo in a big swing, maybe the
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Speaker 1: So after twenty five straight games of allowing three runs,
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Speaker 1: you're more the last two wins for the Orioles, they've
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Speaker 1: allowed three runs total or nine hits with nineteen strike ASTs.
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Speaker 1: That's more like it. For the pitching staff, the bullpen
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Speaker 1: is quietly put together six straight games of wonner and
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Speaker 1: runner less one thirty five rah. By the way, in
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Speaker 1: that stretch, Brandon Young guys did not pitch to this
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Speaker 1: level last year. He was mediocre. He would probably be
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Speaker 1: the first to say that I wonder what you guys
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Speaker 1: think has changed what he's doing different or better? But
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Speaker 1: I mean he held the Yankees in check last night
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Speaker 1: after early home run, and I mean that was pretty stellar.
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Speaker 7: Outing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, And like you said, giving up those
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Speaker 2: runs early again, it kind of seems to be a
12:34
Speaker 2: little bit of a theme. But at least he didn't
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Speaker 2: give it up until the second or third inning last night.
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Speaker 2: And I think he's just doing a good job attacking
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Speaker 2: with his fastball. I think he's starting to realize that
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Speaker 2: it really plays at the level, the big league level,
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Speaker 2: and I think that's really all it takes. It's just
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Speaker 2: a little bit of confidence. When you're down at Triple A,
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Speaker 2: you can get away with a lot of stuff and
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Speaker 2: then you get called up, and especially a guy that's
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Speaker 2: going back and forth, you feel like you have to
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Speaker 2: be perfect all the time. But I think giving him
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Speaker 2: a little bit of a leash here and having, like
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Speaker 2: I said, with these injuries, obviously don't want to see
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Speaker 2: that happen, but who knows, maybe it could benefit them
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Speaker 2: come the end of the season here, having these young
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Speaker 2: guys get these consistent starts in the rotation. So for him,
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Speaker 2: I've really just seen him leaning on his fastball when
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Speaker 2: he needs it and kind of just letting it ride
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Speaker 2: in the zone and finally realizing that.
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Speaker 3: It plays really well at the big league level.
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Speaker 2: And he's able to lean on that and then you
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Speaker 2: can get to your good off speed stuff.
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Speaker 3: But for me, it's been the fastball. Last night.
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Speaker 2: He didn't have the greatest command with it like he
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Speaker 2: did the last couple of innings against the Marlins, but
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Speaker 2: he really when he needed a big pitch, he leaned
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Speaker 2: on it, and he was getting those pop ups again
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Speaker 2: like he was doing in Miami.
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Speaker 4: That's the thing that's most impressive to me, Brad is
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Speaker 4: I don't think in Brandon Young would say it.
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Speaker 5: He didn't have his a game last night.
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Speaker 4: But you will still take that start that he delivered
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Speaker 4: every single day of the week against that lineup, only
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Speaker 4: giving up three hits. He did have three walks, but
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Speaker 4: when you consider the first inning, guys, he threw twenty
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Speaker 4: nine pitches and thankfully he didn't give up any earned
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Speaker 4: runs in that first inning. And look, Ben Rice, he's
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Speaker 4: going to get a lot of people. You know, he
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Speaker 4: already has gotten a lot of people on the home
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Speaker 4: run that he gave up.
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Speaker 5: But oh and oh, you get Brandon Young a ton
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Speaker 5: of credit.
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Speaker 4: He went back out in the sixth inning, able to
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Speaker 4: get an out into the sixth inning.
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Speaker 5: That was exactly what the Orioles needed.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting the ability to pitch up top
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Speaker 1: of the zone or above it. For many years in
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Speaker 1: baseball that was a big no, no, boy, you don't
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Speaker 1: throw up. Now the data Brad and I wondering if
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Speaker 1: that's what they look at and is called induce a
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Speaker 1: vertical break, which is I don't know a ton about
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Speaker 1: that except I know the numbers. When you see seventeen
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Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen, that's good and for me simplifying it, it
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Speaker 1: means he has good ride on his fastball that is
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Speaker 1: harder to get to at the top of the zone.
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Speaker 1: Was that prevalent towards the end of your career or
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Speaker 1: is that even newer than that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was definitely prevalent towards the end of my career.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there was a point couple of years ago
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Speaker 2: right after I got done, where it was nothing before
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Speaker 2: seamers up in the zone. You're starting to see the
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Speaker 2: sinker make a comeback again. But even so, guys are
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Speaker 2: throwing their sinkers at the top of the zone and
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Speaker 2: kind of using their off speed. Depending on the off
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Speaker 2: speed they have, but they'll throw at the top and
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Speaker 2: then use the off speed that compliments it at the bottom.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's been something that's been When I was playing,
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Speaker 2: it was called the sneaky fastball, and it was one
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Speaker 2: of those ones where we're invisib fastball, like invisible, like
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Speaker 2: you threw fastball right down the middle. Guys are swinging
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Speaker 2: and missing. That was induced vertical vertical break. We just
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Speaker 2: didn't have a term for it back in the day.
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Speaker 2: It was kind of, man, this guy's throwing invisible like
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Speaker 2: he's throwing right down the middle, getting swings and missus.
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Speaker 2: But now these guys have learned with the data with
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Speaker 2: the track man's that when you throw the pitch at
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Speaker 2: the top of the zone.
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Speaker 3: It's really hard to square up.
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Speaker 2: So Brandy Young for sure is using that data right
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Speaker 2: now and he's getting a lot of pop ups. And
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Speaker 2: last night, even with that sinker up in the zone,
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Speaker 2: I don't think exactly exactly the location he was looking for.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes you just have to tip your cap.
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Speaker 2: I think at Yankee Stadium that's probably a double ben
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Speaker 2: rice last night. But unfortunately, when you're playing at Candy Yards,
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Speaker 2: those are going to get out, but not a terrible pitch,
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Speaker 2: just probably not in location exactly he was looking for.
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Speaker 2: So but I'm just been really impressed with him, and
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Speaker 2: I think I think the Dad is coming back that,
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Speaker 2: hey man, you got to throw your fastball a lot more,
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Speaker 2: and you got to use it at the top of
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Speaker 2: the zone and just kind of locate it and then
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Speaker 2: use your all speed from there.
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Speaker 4: It is interesting just to see what becomes in vogue
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Speaker 4: when it comes to pitching it. You know, a couple
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Speaker 4: of years ago, I feel like everyone was picking up
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Speaker 4: a sweeper like Brad.
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Speaker 5: What do you think the biggest.
16:28
Speaker 4: Change in pitching, you know, from the start of your
16:31
Speaker 4: career to even now, what do you think that's been?
16:35
Speaker 3: I think location?
16:35
Speaker 2: To me, I think when I was pitching, everything was
16:38
Speaker 2: down in a way. If you when I came up
16:40
Speaker 2: with the Padres, they literally told us if you can't
16:42
Speaker 2: throw a fastball down away for a strike eight out
16:44
Speaker 2: of ten pitches, you're not going to pitch for us.
16:46
Speaker 2: So the pitch down in a way two hitters just
16:49
Speaker 2: really isn't prevalent anymore. A lot of guys swings have
16:52
Speaker 2: kind of evolutionized to that.
16:54
Speaker 3: And then the last couple of years too, with it.
16:57
Speaker 2: Like I was saying, a lot of guys started throwing
16:58
Speaker 2: four seamers at the top of the zone. Hitters adjusted
17:01
Speaker 2: to that. So now the sinker came back. It's just
17:03
Speaker 2: a constant cat and mouseking. And I remember having pitching
17:06
Speaker 2: coaches who said, oh, the sinker will come back. It
17:08
Speaker 2: just takes a little bit of time. It's always there.
17:10
Speaker 2: Sinker slider guys will always be around. It's going to
17:13
Speaker 2: take a couple of years to make its return. But
17:15
Speaker 2: here we are now seeing guys throw sinker sliders again.
17:18
Speaker 2: Whether it's a sweeper or it's a slider, it's very
17:21
Speaker 2: similar pitch. So it just to me, I love seeing that.
17:23
Speaker 2: I think it's a really cool aspect of the game.
17:25
Speaker 2: And you really dive deep into the data, into the
17:28
Speaker 2: what's going on the analytics side of things. It's really
17:31
Speaker 2: cool to see the adjustments the pitchers make and then
17:33
Speaker 2: the hitters catch up, and then it's back to make
17:35
Speaker 2: another adjustment. Now they have, you know, whatever pitch is
17:38
Speaker 2: in vogue now, but it always constantly seems to be changing,
17:41
Speaker 2: but it's kind of still the same game regardless of
17:44
Speaker 2: how it's being played.
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Speaker 1: Right, with a lot more data and the data even
17:49
Speaker 1: the minor league pitchers tell me. They can tell them. Now, Okay,
17:53
Speaker 1: here's three major leaguers with great sliders. Here's the data
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Speaker 1: they get on that. Here's your data. This is them.
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Speaker 1: This is where you need to get to. And if
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Speaker 1: you get to this data point, this spin rate, this
18:05
Speaker 1: movement profile, you can get big league hitters out with
18:08
Speaker 1: This slider doesn't always work one hundred percent, but you
18:11
Speaker 1: didn't have it twenty years ago. You just knew. You
18:14
Speaker 1: watch video maybe, or you can just watch your own movement.
18:17
Speaker 1: You know you read bats. Now you can say, if
18:20
Speaker 1: I gain certain data points, maybe I can have a
18:24
Speaker 1: great slider. It's really amazing what's in the game right
18:27
Speaker 1: now to make players better. Speaking of pitching, how about
18:33
Speaker 1: late in the game. We want to get to that
18:34
Speaker 1: in a moment. Here some great work by the Orioles
18:37
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Speaker 1: And today I wrote a big feature on Viheva. He
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Speaker 1: ten homers already. No real minor leaguer has more than that. So, guys,
20:32
Speaker 1: some great work late in the game last night, the
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Speaker 1: save for Nunez, he did it again, and an unofficial
20:39
Speaker 1: save we'll give to Garcia because that was heavy lifting
20:42
Speaker 1: Farico in the eighth and he buzzed through Ben Rice,
20:46
Speaker 1: Aaron Judge, and Cody Bellinger on nine pitches.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's really not any words you can
20:54
Speaker 2: say about Rico Garcia at this point. I mean, one
20:57
Speaker 2: hit now in nineteen innings is just unheard of. When
21:00
Speaker 2: it's just funny that you know, Mason Miller out in
21:03
Speaker 2: San Diego's getting all these headlines all this stuff, like
21:05
Speaker 2: he throws one hundred and four but Rico guard I mean,
21:07
Speaker 2: those stats are just absolutely insane. And to go out
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Speaker 2: there in the eighth inning, which is a lot harder
21:13
Speaker 2: when you when he's been closing the last week. It's
21:15
Speaker 2: a lot harder than fans might think. I know he's
21:17
Speaker 2: not typically you know, the closer for the Orioles, but
21:20
Speaker 2: when you've been pitching the ninth inning every game the
21:23
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks with hels Leo, to be called
21:25
Speaker 2: upon in the eighth inning, there is a little bit
21:27
Speaker 2: different on your routine. And I think that job he
21:31
Speaker 2: did last night was unbelievable. It was just I mean,
21:34
Speaker 2: coming right at guys, just throwing that curveball to change up.
21:36
Speaker 2: He's just has everything working right now, and like Ben
21:39
Speaker 2: said on the broadcast last night, he really is in
21:41
Speaker 2: his own When he's out there on the mound, you
21:43
Speaker 2: can tell he's just he's thinking about his pitches, what
21:45
Speaker 2: he's gonna throw, what he wants to throw next, and
21:48
Speaker 2: he's kind of one hit pitch away ahead of the
21:51
Speaker 2: hitters right now. And it's really fun to watch, and
21:53
Speaker 2: it's it's great for a guy who's bounced around a
21:55
Speaker 2: bunch too. It's just it's one of the stories that
21:57
Speaker 2: should be gein a lot more publicity throughout Major League
22:00
Speaker 2: Baseball right now.
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Speaker 5: Right, I'm with you they I don't know what more
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Speaker 5: to say about.
22:05
Speaker 4: This guy, Like this guy is just spectacular what he's
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Speaker 4: doing in Steve, I'm with you one hundred percent, you
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Speaker 4: saying the unofficial save. The reason Craig albern has sent
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Speaker 4: him out there in the eighth inning is because he
22:18
Speaker 4: was facing murderers row where you got Ben Rice, who
22:21
Speaker 4: he struck out in four pitches. Aaron Judge ended up
22:24
Speaker 4: popping out on the first pitch and then getting Bellinger
22:27
Speaker 4: to strike out on four pitches. This is three that's
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Speaker 4: the meat of the lineup, and he worked through it
22:32
Speaker 4: like a fuzz saw on nine pitches. It was really
22:35
Speaker 4: really impressive. But I also think guys and Garcia and
22:39
Speaker 4: Nungez and they deserve a ton of love. But teacher
22:42
Speaker 4: Kens what he was able to do the inning prior Schnuman.
22:47
Speaker 4: He ended up hitting that one out double and then
22:50
Speaker 4: ends getting the strikeout and Pete ends up flipping the
22:53
Speaker 4: ball behind him and he bare hands the ball to
22:57
Speaker 4: get the out at first in at first base. It's unbelievable.
23:01
Speaker 4: The strand to the runner at third base like that
23:04
Speaker 4: was big time stuff from Hens.
23:07
Speaker 2: And to me, also, when you think about the bullpen,
23:09
Speaker 2: I think what turns good bullpens into great bullpens is
23:11
Speaker 2: what exactly happened last night, keeping the score at two zero.
23:15
Speaker 2: When it starts to creep the three zero, four zero,
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Speaker 2: then it really becomes heavy lifting and they try to
23:20
Speaker 2: come back in that game. But keeping the score where
23:22
Speaker 2: it was is really what determines a great bullpen from
23:25
Speaker 2: a good bullpen. And I've mentioned multiple times, but I
23:28
Speaker 2: truly think this could be a great bullpen for the Orioles.
23:30
Speaker 2: They're having multiple guys step up, obviously, you know we've
23:34
Speaker 2: mentioned Garcia and Nunyaz a bunch on the show, but
23:38
Speaker 2: just having everybody else fill a role makes the bullpen
23:41
Speaker 2: that much stronger, that much deeper, and it really shortens
23:44
Speaker 2: these games. And it's I just hope they continue to
23:46
Speaker 2: get these opportunities to shorten these games up because they
23:49
Speaker 2: could be really fun the rest of the season if
23:51
Speaker 2: they are able to do that.
23:54
Speaker 1: And we forget Helsley has been perfect in save chances
23:57
Speaker 1: and is on the injured list. He gave us an
23:59
Speaker 1: update pre game yesterday basically said he's just getting ready
24:02
Speaker 1: to start throwing. The good news was the inflammation was
24:06
Speaker 1: just that the scans are clean. There's no ligament damage
24:09
Speaker 1: in his elbow. He feels good. He said that repeatedly,
24:12
Speaker 1: and he knows he's got to get in some minor
24:14
Speaker 1: league games. Most likely he's got to build back up.
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Speaker 1: So this is a couple of weeks they're going you know,
24:18
Speaker 1: these guys doing it at the back end, who have
24:20
Speaker 1: done a great job at his absence, they need to
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Speaker 1: keep doing it because they're not going to have Hellesley
24:24
Speaker 1: in the next week. It might be June one ish
24:28
Speaker 1: and so Rico and Nunez. Wow, they're carrying the load here.
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Speaker 5: And Brad with those two guys.
24:34
Speaker 4: And I'm sure Albernad any manager, when you have two
24:37
Speaker 4: of those guys, especially Garcia that's really in a nice
24:41
Speaker 4: groove here, you want to lean on.
24:42
Speaker 5: Him as much as you could possibly do it.
24:45
Speaker 4: And I think of Brandon Hyde with Felix Baltista at
24:48
Speaker 4: the height of his powers in twenty twenty three, where
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Speaker 4: he's getting four.
24:51
Speaker 5: Or five six out sieves.
24:53
Speaker 4: You know, take us in in the mind of a reliever,
24:56
Speaker 4: where both of those guys they pitched in the prior game. Nunez,
25:00
Speaker 4: I think he threw twenty four pitches on Sunday and
25:02
Speaker 4: then came out to close that game. How is it
25:05
Speaker 4: doing back to backs and then sometimes even three straight?
25:09
Speaker 5: You're three of four?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much.
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Speaker 2: I mean when you with the mindset of a reliever,
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Speaker 2: you're you know, you got to pitch back to back.
25:17
Speaker 2: It's it's, you know, one of the main purposes of
25:20
Speaker 2: the job. The third day is a little tricky. It
25:22
Speaker 2: turns into depending on what the team wants to do.
25:24
Speaker 2: It depends on the schedule coming up. A lot of
25:26
Speaker 2: times you want to avoid the third game because then
25:28
Speaker 2: you're kind of looking at having two days off in
25:31
Speaker 2: a row. At least most managers will try to do that.
25:33
Speaker 2: There was times in my career, but we talked about
25:35
Speaker 2: before the show. The game's changed a lot. I mean,
25:37
Speaker 2: I had, you know, six out of eight, five out
25:40
Speaker 2: of six. You know, it's changed a lot. They've done
25:42
Speaker 2: a lot to help protect these relievers, and really they're
25:45
Speaker 2: trying to get one hundred percent of them. So when
25:48
Speaker 2: they're when you're being asked you need to go out
25:51
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, and they want to make sure that
25:53
Speaker 2: you're at least feeling close to eighty ninety percent of
25:55
Speaker 2: your you know, one hundred percent feeling on any given day.
25:58
Speaker 2: But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised with this series being
26:01
Speaker 2: so big and with the off they come in Thursday,
26:03
Speaker 2: that they don't ask these guys for a third night tonight.
26:06
Speaker 3: But if it doesn't happen, you just got to be.
26:10
Speaker 2: It's one of those tricky things because if say they
26:12
Speaker 2: go out there, they give up the lead tonight, now
26:14
Speaker 2: you're without those guys two days in a row, and
26:16
Speaker 2: it just gets a little tricky with the bullpen. So
26:18
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if one of them was up
26:20
Speaker 2: today and the other one was down, depending on you know,
26:22
Speaker 2: what part of the lineup comes up. But it's the
26:25
Speaker 2: bullpen game is tricky. I think it's when you have
26:29
Speaker 2: as many weapons as they have, you have the luxury
26:31
Speaker 2: to kind of have one of these guys take a
26:33
Speaker 2: day off because you just don't want to turn into
26:34
Speaker 2: a red situation where they've thrown three in a row,
26:37
Speaker 2: four to five. You know, it just gets really tricky
26:39
Speaker 2: when you start running these games up in a row
26:42
Speaker 2: on these guys.
26:44
Speaker 1: Well we continue in a moment, I want to ask
26:46
Speaker 1: these guys. I want to make a comment about Abernas
26:48
Speaker 1: and some moves and see what Brad and Tim think
26:51
Speaker 1: about what I think, and then that'll be coming up
26:54
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Speaker 1: So, guys, for first year manager, I give Craig alburn
27:18
Speaker 1: as credit. He if he's convicted, he makes the move.
27:22
Speaker 1: He pitched hit for Besio having a great game and
27:24
Speaker 1: it worked out last night in real time. I said
27:27
Speaker 1: to Luke Jones, sits next to me in the press box,
27:30
Speaker 1: I'm bringing Rico back out for the ninth nine pitches.
27:33
Speaker 1: He just rolled through those guys. You gotta get this win.
27:36
Speaker 1: You got to give him a second inning. He didn't.
27:38
Speaker 1: He went to Nunez, who's been pretty good admittedly, So
27:42
Speaker 1: for me, when he's convicted with a move, he's gonna
27:46
Speaker 1: make it. He's not timid about doing things that get him.
27:49
Speaker 1: Second guest, I guess.
27:50
Speaker 3: I'm saying, yeah, I agree.
27:53
Speaker 2: I think last night he had a plan and it
27:55
Speaker 2: was Rico Garcia, if we had the lead, was going
27:58
Speaker 2: to pitch the seventh, eighth or ninth. I think might
28:00
Speaker 2: have even been the seventh inning if that lineup had
28:02
Speaker 2: had the middle guys come in there, if they had
28:04
Speaker 2: the lead.
28:05
Speaker 3: And yeah, you're right.
28:06
Speaker 2: I think when you're a manager, you just have to
28:08
Speaker 2: you have a plan before the game. Obviously things can
28:10
Speaker 2: happen during the game that can change things, but if
28:13
Speaker 2: you have a plan in mind, you just got to
28:14
Speaker 2: stick to it.
28:15
Speaker 3: And this just shows trust.
28:17
Speaker 2: I mean the trust he's putting in Unia's as a
28:19
Speaker 2: rookie five weeks, six weeks into the season, in his
28:22
Speaker 2: first year in the big leagues is tremendous, and I
28:25
Speaker 2: think Nunia's is feeding off of that trust of his manager.
28:27
Speaker 2: So I think at this point it's he has guys
28:30
Speaker 2: he trust, and I think I would have not been
28:33
Speaker 2: against Rico pitching the ninth last night, But the fact
28:36
Speaker 2: that he threw nunia Is out there shows you and
28:37
Speaker 2: tells you everything you need to know about what he
28:39
Speaker 2: thinks about that kid.
28:41
Speaker 4: I think that sort of dovetails into what we were
28:44
Speaker 4: just talking prior to hitting that break. To be honest,
28:47
Speaker 4: where Brad you brought up the point, maybe one of
28:49
Speaker 4: them is up, one of them's down today. Maybe Nounia's
28:54
Speaker 4: is down and Garcia is up because he only threw
28:57
Speaker 4: nine pitches and maybe he could do three straight games
29:00
Speaker 4: where NEWNGA is. Like I was saying, I think he
29:02
Speaker 4: threw twenty four pitches on Sunday and through a decent
29:06
Speaker 4: amount yesterday. So maybe he's down, but you save Garcia
29:10
Speaker 4: for a possible save opportunity tonight. Could be my feeling
29:15
Speaker 4: with what Craig Albernas was thinking, but I was with you, Steve.
29:18
Speaker 4: I definitely was thinking, hey, bring him back out, man,
29:21
Speaker 4: he's unhittable right now.
29:23
Speaker 3: You know what's too It's funny, sorry, Steve.
29:25
Speaker 2: I just remember Buck always saying he never was willing
29:28
Speaker 2: to mortgage games down the line for that game tonight,
29:31
Speaker 2: and I think that's you know, it's it's kind of
29:34
Speaker 2: an old school mentality, I think with the way the
29:35
Speaker 2: games played today, but I think it still kind of
29:37
Speaker 2: stands true because you're not willing to kind of ruin
29:41
Speaker 2: games down the way to go get the one tonight,
29:44
Speaker 2: and I think albern has had a play last night
29:46
Speaker 2: and he was going to stick to it with tonight
29:48
Speaker 2: and tomorrow in mind, and I think that's kind of
29:50
Speaker 2: what he what he kind of rolled with and it
29:52
Speaker 2: worked out.
29:54
Speaker 1: Listen, if Nunez gives it up the whole storyline this
29:57
Speaker 1: morning in Bolin Worres, how could you have taken Enrico
30:00
Speaker 1: Garcia out of that game? He's given up one hit
30:04
Speaker 1: all year. He rolled through on nine pitches. He made
30:07
Speaker 1: that move you said he was convicted in and he
30:10
Speaker 1: made it, and I think it does And I want
30:12
Speaker 1: to ask Nunyaz about that if I get a chance today.
30:14
Speaker 1: What you said, Brad about that says everything in the
30:16
Speaker 1: world about how the manager feels about him, because Nunya
30:19
Speaker 1: has watched that ending too and probably thought, well, they're
30:22
Speaker 1: not going to me now look at it. He just
30:24
Speaker 1: look at what he did. So I think that's big
30:26
Speaker 1: for both those pictures last night, and so hopefully we're
30:30
Speaker 1: knocking on wood for the Orioles that they get it
30:33
Speaker 1: going here, guys, and we have more exciting things to
30:36
Speaker 1: talk about. So, guys, another one in the books. Thank
30:40
Speaker 1: you for all the great insights Brad and Tim and
30:43
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