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Selective Ignorance: Ep. 67 | Biased Juries, Bird Behavior & Basketball · Decisions, Decisions

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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,
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  Speaker 2: Make sure y'all get that. Now let's get to this
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  Speaker 2: week's episode. This is Mandy B.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect
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  Speaker 1: Podcast Network and Ihart Radio. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to another
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  Speaker 1: episode of Selective Ignorance with me, your host, Mandy B,
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  Speaker 1: and Baby. We are getting into all of the things
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  Speaker 1: that have the Internet buzzing this week. Up first, I
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  Speaker 1: have somewhat of an ignorant take about Daphney Joy, who
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  Speaker 1: recently sat with streamer academics and continues to go on
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  Speaker 1: her run her promo run up.
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  Speaker 2: I assume her only fan.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get into all these things. Then we're getting into
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  Speaker 1: this is America in our politics portion. The Carmelo Anthony
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  Speaker 1: trial is set to take place in Texas, where none
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  Speaker 1: of the twelve jurors or six alternates alternates are of color.
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  Speaker 1: So in a case like this is an all non
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  Speaker 1: black jury automatically unfair if you're unfamiliar with the case,
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  Speaker 1: we're getting into that. Also, a YouTube couple receives backlash
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  Speaker 1: for terminating a pregnancy for a child that they know
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  Speaker 1: had Down syndrome. The conversation is if you agree or
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  Speaker 1: disagree that you should have the option to terminate a
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  Speaker 1: child if they will not be quote unquote healthy.
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  Speaker 2: And celebrity said the darnis.
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  Speaker 1: Things little Bootsy and got on God damn our Internet
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  Speaker 1: once again to say that trends are not allowed at
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  Speaker 1: his pool party. And Waka Flaka explains why he chooses
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  Speaker 1: Trump over Kamala and I said kamala like that on
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  Speaker 1: purpose because that's how he said it.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm so pissed with everyone saying it wrong.
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  Speaker 3: It'sma la kamma love.
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  Speaker 1: Then, of course this is not a sports podcast, but
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  Speaker 1: we have to talk about the Knicks, So we're getting
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  Speaker 1: into all of these things.
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  Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: We got a lot to say, and a King believes
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  Speaker 1: this may be our last podcast because there are a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot of tigert thoughts coming our way.
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  Speaker 1: But first up, let me introduce my super producer and y'all,
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  Speaker 1: we got the Puerto Rican journalism Jason in the mother.
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  Speaker 3: Hi you, Jim, I'm still here.
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  Speaker 4: I'm still here.
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  Speaker 2: I know I'm gonna see you in the morning. Babs. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: look at it.
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  Speaker 4: Show crossovers right there.
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  Speaker 2: Hello. Hello.
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  Speaker 1: By the time you were listening to this, you may
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  Speaker 1: my guys.
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  Speaker 2: It's been fun. It's been fun.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, y'all get it to me.
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  Speaker 4: Your second appearance since we took over our run.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm excited.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited, but also I'm y'all missed him last week,
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  Speaker 1: but I get a text message from freaking Jason like, hey, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: not gonna make it. Last minute interview with mon Donnie.
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  Speaker 4: Excuse me, yeah, yeah, wow, Yeah. He even got his
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  Speaker 4: a good one. He's the one who said Nixon for Inshalla.
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  Speaker 3: We've been playing that, y'all. Gotta y'all got an interview
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  Speaker 3: with the mayor and mom Donnie? Is that why Rosenberg
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  Speaker 3: was started?
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  Speaker 2: Because y'all look not who's there? Well, y'all know, I
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  Speaker 2: got the og hot legend a king next to me.
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  Speaker 5: One game at the time, y'all, One game at a time. Oh, now,
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  Speaker 5: there's always been one.
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  Speaker 3: I can't I love how.
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  Speaker 5: The nine nick fans there, y'all the ones this firally,
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  Speaker 5: the Knicks fans are just having fun.
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  Speaker 3: We enjoyed the moment.
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  Speaker 5: The country stressed out, and we're trying to give y'all
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  Speaker 5: some of this freedom.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: The expression, you know, shout out to New York. New
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  Speaker 5: uh and I love it.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 5: And by the time y'all hear this episode, we shall
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  Speaker 5: see you think you're the events that happened?
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  Speaker 3: You know, you think you're three o right now? Do
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm yes?
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  Speaker 5: I do think that we're going to be three oh
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  Speaker 5: by the time this episode drops.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, by the way, we're recording this on Monday.
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  Speaker 5: I also think that there's a scenario that that exists,
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  Speaker 5: that some whore shit may happen and we may not
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  Speaker 5: even get to halftime because you're number forty seven.
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  Speaker 3: Don't do attendant. I said, well, number four, yo, you
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  Speaker 3: got to chill. You got it.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't vote for no orange cheeto.
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  Speaker 5: Okay. I know you're Floridian and sent a trend.
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  Speaker 3: Florida woman on deck.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 5: You know that, I will say, you don't have you
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  Speaker 5: never had a white boyfriend, so you do ever in
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  Speaker 5: my life like him?
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  Speaker 2: And you know that.
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  Speaker 1: I actually still stay as a registered voter in the
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  Speaker 1: state of Florida because they need my vote.
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  Speaker 3: Are you a Democrat? I have to be a I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean that's how I vote majority like, I've never voted
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  Speaker 1: anything else. I got to vote for the first Obama.
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  Speaker 1: Uh when when he went, I voted for Obama twice.
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  Speaker 1: I did vote for Biden, and then I voted for
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  Speaker 1: for Kamala.
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  Speaker 2: Is your Kamala.
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  Speaker 3: Come Kamala, No, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Kamala is the wrong one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. And then y'all we have King
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  Speaker 2: of Head like Jason, Jolly.
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  Speaker 6: Pop Blessing, all the yapp niggas.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we're gonna do something. There's lots of you know,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I went down the rabbit hole of your U.
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  Speaker 5: His correspondence with no, with what should I you're talking about? Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you gotta let's do that because I'm not. But I
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  Speaker 5: didn't realize it was more than two or three No,
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  Speaker 5: It's like, so.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. Got It got to a point
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  Speaker 3: where he's like, yo, I'm a no. Yoh, yeah, we all.
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  Speaker 2: A friend of mine hit me up on the side.
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  Speaker 1: And and you know, we were having the conversation about
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  Speaker 1: the discourse and the comments section because boy do you
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  Speaker 1: like going at people? And I'm here for it because
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  Speaker 1: so do I. But it's people that wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: we know, and so the consensus was that you took it.
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  Speaker 2: Low first with with who wait with Isaac, he's the.
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  Speaker 3: One that start.
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  Speaker 5: He responded first with the whole I disagree and not
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  Speaker 5: not even being biased, I saw exactly what triggered him,
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  Speaker 5: what we should have expected.
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  Speaker 3: Because.
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  Speaker 6: I knew as soon as we did that that he
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  Speaker 6: was going to pop up in the He.
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  Speaker 5: Said he attacked his legacy before you even get to
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  Speaker 5: that though.
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  Speaker 1: His first comment, wait the backstory for the for the listeners,
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  Speaker 1: y'all know, our clips get the people going in the
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  Speaker 1: comments because it's the discourse on the internet.
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  Speaker 2: That's why we have these conversations.
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  Speaker 3: Expected Isaac.
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  Speaker 2: Fan base.
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  Speaker 1: Isaac Case, who was the under A fan base and
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  Speaker 1: the kin to Isia Case, jumped in the comments and for.
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  Speaker 2: Weeks y'all were going back and forth. I saw the
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  Speaker 2: comments back.
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  Speaker 3: It was like it was like two days. It was
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  Speaker 3: like a day or two it was was it. I
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  Speaker 3: feel like I was bonded in real time. And then
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  Speaker 3: I kept them moving. But maybe there was a day after.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember.
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  Speaker 5: I remember the whole break the left of the back
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  Speaker 5: and forth equivalent to look at you click open more
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  Speaker 5: and some ship. I'm like more replies.
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  Speaker 3: I was invested. I was like no.
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  Speaker 6: My thing with him was like his first his first
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  Speaker 6: like novel that he wrote in the comments section was about, oh,
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  Speaker 6: you know, I see why people.
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  Speaker 3: People don't really hate Drake.
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  Speaker 6: They just hate his success and they want to be
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  Speaker 6: him and all this other ship and people hate winners,
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  Speaker 6: and they always try to bring down winners.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, a response to the clip about worst Drake.
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  Speaker 3: Bars about worst, right, so you're doing all that.
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  Speaker 4: We also included you also included good Drake Bars.
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  Speaker 3: In an episode.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I keep telling people over and over.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, Yo, they don't, but you know they're not.
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  Speaker 3: They don't.
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  Speaker 6: They're going to respond to what they see. If you
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  Speaker 6: want to know the whole context, listen.
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  Speaker 3: To the episode, Listen to the episode. You know that these.
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  Speaker 6: Niggas are not going to do that because some of
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  Speaker 6: them are just invested in what they're invested in in
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  Speaker 6: the moment. But my thing is like, you're doing all
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  Speaker 6: of this over Drake Bars over over Drake Bars is corny,
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  Speaker 6: but that's what he does. So now I don't know
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  Speaker 6: what that person's definition of low is.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 6: I did say his first comment was stop hating. My
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  Speaker 6: reply will stop standing for that man? If people think
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  Speaker 6: they calling him a stand is too low, that's that's
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  Speaker 6: how I see him. I see you as a stand
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  Speaker 6: you like the Bars.
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  Speaker 1: As man, but like if you call a man a
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  Speaker 1: stand for a little, that's a little, that's a little saucy.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, But that's but okay.
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  Speaker 4: It's wow saucy.
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  Speaker 6: But but I'm not but I'm not pulling that out
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  Speaker 6: of nowhere. Since day one of the battle, this nigga
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  Speaker 6: has thousands and thousands and thousands of posts about Drake.
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  Speaker 6: If you look at his page right now, I bet
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  Speaker 6: he has two already this morning.
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  Speaker 3: I got it.
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  Speaker 5: I got it about Drake and something about Drake. I
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  Speaker 5: think that's very intentional. Of course it is you want
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  Speaker 5: he want, Yeah, of course he does.
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  Speaker 3: Of course he does.
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  Speaker 6: You'll never say that out loud, but I'm sure he
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  Speaker 6: would love for that thing to be sponsored by OVO.
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  Speaker 6: Have Drake just shoot him a bunch of Look at
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  Speaker 6: the metrics like and the ship blow. Now it's Drake
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  Speaker 6: attached to it, like. I'm sure that's part of his strategy,
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  Speaker 6: because no grown saying man is tweeting about any rapper
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  Speaker 6: or any artist this often to defend.
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  Speaker 3: Academicay. To do that is a faithful He's a loyal, loyalist,
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  Speaker 3: and he's a streamer.
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  Speaker 5: I think I think his audience and I think the
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  Speaker 5: equation is he's like, damn, that got the chain, he says,
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  Speaker 5: access If I just do a little bit more, maybe
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  Speaker 5: I you know, and.
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  Speaker 3: I have a product that I need.
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  Speaker 5: He was trying to get celebrities and entertainers to support
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  Speaker 5: it early on.
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  Speaker 1: It's so weird for me just because we just brought
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  Speaker 1: up act. He has done nothing but ship on women publicly.
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  Speaker 1: Why why does he do that? Deafney Joy interview.
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  Speaker 3: Well, well she where else is she going to go? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think where else she going to go?
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  Speaker 2: You don't think anyone else wanted to sit with Dafney.
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  Speaker 3: The only people I can see, you know what, I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna it's men I just met the other day. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: you met him too. I went to It's Funny leaning
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  Speaker 1: into ignorant ship. So there's a he has this liquor.
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  Speaker 1: So they had a little, a little thing at the.
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  Speaker 3: M c K. You know.
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  Speaker 1: I like going to the m c K. So I
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  Speaker 1: go there and I'm like, ooh. I realized I ain't
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  Speaker 1: never said nothing good about this nigga online, and I said,
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  Speaker 1: I hope I don't get kicked out.
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  Speaker 2: But I wanted to go to Enjoy Free.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to be outside of the Q.
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  Speaker 1: But I was like, damn, I'm really going to an
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  Speaker 1: event of somebody that I know. I don't think he's
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  Speaker 1: great at what he does. I'm not a fan of
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  Speaker 1: his I don't you know. I do think that he
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  Speaker 1: violated a girl and then had to pay.
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  Speaker 2: But I did show up to the event. I was
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  Speaker 2: just hoping I didn't get kicked out, that's all.
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  Speaker 3: Was there any interaction?
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  Speaker 2: No, When he walked by, I let him walk by.
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  Speaker 2: I mean everyone around him.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like it.
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  Speaker 5: I think it depends on how invested they are. Because
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  Speaker 5: she's very recognizable. It was like, all right, ye, so
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  Speaker 5: if she said something that's stung, I could see him.
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  Speaker 3: But hey, yeah, same same.
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  Speaker 2: Thing just happened.
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  Speaker 1: Where was I, Oh at Summer Jam Not Summer Jam?
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  Speaker 2: I always confusing birthday bad. I run into a little
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  Speaker 2: duval me and little uh huh, And I didn't speak.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't speak, So that like that's the thing, Like
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  Speaker 1: I can always be in a room and be cordial,
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  Speaker 1: but like, I'm never gonna go out of my way
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  Speaker 1: to speak to somebody that I know I don't funk with,
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  Speaker 1: or that I haven't supported, or that I know I
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  Speaker 1: have talked about online, like you know, And.
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  Speaker 6: That's how it would be seeing I like I would,
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  Speaker 6: I would, I would look at that man in the face, like.
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  Speaker 3: You know what, nothing is nothing.
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  Speaker 1: It's because like we come from an era no lie,
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  Speaker 1: like like where if.
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  Speaker 2: You go to somebody face you say what's on your mind.
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  Speaker 1: Like, so if I get approached, I'm never gonna take
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  Speaker 1: my words back, you know what I say.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I don't think it would be I don't think.
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  Speaker 5: I think in those moments the only thing you can
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  Speaker 5: do at that point is yo, man, what what? You
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  Speaker 5: then have an expanded conversation in person.
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  Speaker 2: It's weird. So that's what that's I don't ever think
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  Speaker 2: it's going to That's kind of like my issue.
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  Speaker 1: With the Daphney Joy thing, right, I clearly have a
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  Speaker 1: sex positive platform. Sure yes, yes, and so that would
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  Speaker 1: be something that people might be like, wait, Manny, you
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't want to say to her, And so for me,
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  Speaker 1: for me, it is fifty cent just received some backlash
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  Speaker 1: this week.
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  Speaker 2: He was sitting.
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  Speaker 1: Promoting something the Raisin Kanan There we Go, and they
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  Speaker 1: asked him his thoughts on Daphney Joy and he pretty
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  Speaker 1: much was just like, guys, she's a hoe and so
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  Speaker 1: hose do whole things. And I was listening to him
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  Speaker 1: and the comments were like even the people in the audience.
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  Speaker 2: Was like, oh, that's but I agree, Like first off.
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  Speaker 5: Because women, yeah, go ahead, look before we start the show,
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  Speaker 5: I said, I do think there was a time, and
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  Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know too much about his relationship
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  Speaker 5: with her, and I feel uncomfortable even talking about it
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  Speaker 5: because that's their relief.
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  Speaker 3: But they put it publicly.
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  Speaker 5: Think that there was a genuine relationship there once upon
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  Speaker 5: a time there we never seen fifty post pictures. I
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  Speaker 5: think there was the lawyer girl that he was messing
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  Speaker 5: with at one time. They seemed serious. He never, yes,
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  Speaker 5: he never, He don't. He doesn't reveal the intimate women
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  Speaker 5: in his life unless of the thing.
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  Speaker 3: So when you see that, you're like, oh shit, this
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  Speaker 3: is who he's with.
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  Speaker 5: Right, And then they were on the beach he had
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  Speaker 5: on the linen. That's a different vulnerable and that's different cheese.
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  Speaker 5: That was a different version of fifty cent of vulnerable
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  Speaker 5: in terms of his love life. So I don't think
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  Speaker 5: that she was presenting herself that way then, as it
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  Speaker 5: appears to.
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  Speaker 1: Be, well, no, My issue with her is releasing the
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  Speaker 1: statement identifying as a victim, claiming a level of abuse
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  Speaker 1: that she endured. Literally just for the very next day
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  Speaker 1: to be leaning into the size really matter, let me
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  Speaker 1: tell you my thoughts, and.
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  Speaker 2: Then dropping the only fans eight percent off and then like.
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  Speaker 3: The moment she sees in the moment he seizing the moment.
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  Speaker 1: You're looking for another man to pretty much treat you
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  Speaker 1: the same way you just got treated.
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  Speaker 2: Because what are we talking about here?
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  Speaker 6: Well, well, I mean there's two sides of that coin, right,
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  Speaker 6: there's that side. The other side is some of these
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: niggas don't care about holes. They would love to marry
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  Speaker 6: the whole whatever the thing is, they don't. They don't care.
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  Speaker 6: Even last week when we talked about it, like again,
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  Speaker 6: like this is their relationship, so it is what it is.
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  Speaker 6: I don't personally care. I'm not invested in whether you
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  Speaker 6: love her or not. That's your business. But it's hard
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  Speaker 6: for me to believe that fifty didn't know none of this,
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  Speaker 6: even when he had on the linens and taking the
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  Speaker 6: pictures and like being happy with her.
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  Speaker 4: Well, no, he definitely love. Listen, some people like to
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  Speaker 4: eat Wendy's. Some people like to eat and.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like he knew right, Like.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: He's dog he's dogging her out and they have a
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: kid together right where it's like it's.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Like, Doug, you knew that's doing whatever she's wanting.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: She could drop the only fan, but it's like dog
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: her son loves her. That that's the part to me
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: that's foul where it's just like, yo, you knew when
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: you ordered the number one off the menu, you know
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: what it comes with.
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: Came with the number one, Yes, bacon, lettuce, tomato, male
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: bubbles buster in the side of ho But but how
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: do we know that that versus that version of her
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: then was what we see now?
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Maybe that that's what she was kind of cleaned up.
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: What and then she was for you got that? That's
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: not my favorite bar.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: That's who's the comedian something Dion not cole What what's
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: the one with the light eyes West.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: Coast that none of us are going to respond to that.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I can't ask the light.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Yo, yo eyes like I would never describe. We're not
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: doing that right eyes. Wait, so your demise.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Knowledge when the man got light eyes?
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: No, not to myself, not to know other man with
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: the light eyes over there, or you might say some snarky.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Ship y'all know anyway, dated and comedian?
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Who's that funny dude?
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: But it makes you laugh with the late eyes, the.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: One that we having you giggling and ship you know,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: right right right right, you fancy.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Y'all are all to my for me.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: Okay, this way is to turn it on and off.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: But that wouldn't be I'll be like, yo, he always
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: got the fly kicks, something.
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: Something, something that I can relate to. I would also
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: be like, yeah, that could be me.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: You can relate to the fact that he has eyes.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: They just happen to be light. Okay, I'm not okay,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I don't anyway, But.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: She dated it this guy he put her on Black
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: She was like, but I was, So, I'm on Reality
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: after Dark with Carlos King, Dustin Ross, Claudia Jordan and
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: so that's on Carlos King's Patreon, and so she was
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: talking about.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I'll be working.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know how I can talk this much, but
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: we recorded last week, and she was sharing about Daphne's
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: previous relationship with this comedian and how it became like
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: a whole thing in la that she was doing similar
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: things that she was doing with Diddy with this person,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: but that this person may have been the person to.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Like break her.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: And then she got with Diddy, but also like again,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: when you're in LA, when these guys introduced you to
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: a certain type of lifestyle, it becomes your lifestyle.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: And if you're.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Doing it in order to keep up with a lifestyle,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's necessary, if that makes you
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: a victim.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: And then to see that now you're moving forward with.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Sex work, mind you you get in I don't know,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: like sixty five or seven thousand a month from up
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: from fifty ten thousand dollars a month from Diddy.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: If almost twenty thousand dollars a month and child.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Support alone isn't enough to like make you just go
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: out and get a job instead of selling yourself on
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: the internet. How much do you really value what your
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: son may have to endure in, you know, in school,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: with all of this that's come out about you, and
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: now you're just shaking your ass and showing you titties
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: and your naked on.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Now. I watched the videos, she said, I did the research.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, but it's just like I don't like that
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: she came out with that statement referring to herself as
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: a victim, because there are real victims out here.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't I don't know what the.
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: I don't know what the extent of, Like what is
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: the allegation, like like her victimhood, Like what is the thing?
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. She called herself a victim, and
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: It couldn't the details that she's trying to say. Job
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: is essentially that she trusted him and there was a
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: certain part that she was willing to do. But then
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: it want too far and she lost herself within that.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: But but but in that went too far.
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: We're talking about like a crime, but we're talking about
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: when too far, like it was it was beyond I thought.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I thought he loved me, And if he loved he
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have he wouldn't have made me fuck these other
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: guys like.
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: That, saying that she was like coerced, like you had to.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: I think she's saying like there was a certain part
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: she was willing to do for her partner because she
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: was in love. But then at a certain point that
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: changed and it got coercional.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: More coercion came into Yeah.
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: Well I mean yeah, I mean listen, I don't want
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: know when to like coercion is fucked up.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Sexual abuse is fucked up like that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: It is and there's a lot of layers to abuse.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Like I said, there's.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Emotional this, financially, there's a lot that don't include sexual
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: abuse nor nor does it include physical abuse all the time.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: But like, you're the victim of what?
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Victim of what?
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Ye?
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: What I'm saying, You're a victim.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Of falling for the wrong guy. Like like when we're
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: talking in this nature you just the.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: Fifth posted a a comment about it and he said,
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: apparently California state law agrees with this type of behavior
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: as a RelA city. Yeah, I'm like, oh, he's angling
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: for custody. It looks like so then now that she's
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: doing all this stuff and not really controlling the narrative,
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: it is all over the place.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: But I wanted that leans into his favorite something.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: If you're fifty though, what argument are you making that?
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: Like if someone could pick your apart too and be like,
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: you're just as messy.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: As she is. No, because but he ain't out here
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: busting and opening on the video.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: We don't know that.
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: We don't know, but that is the only standard of
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: what won't get you custody of your job. Like they
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: might look at and be like, well, you're going on
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: the Internet with these antics like how is how is
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: the kid gonna have to deal with that in school?
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Because that's well, that's the conversation right now with Bonnie Blue,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: like she has a she's she's pregnant. Bonnie Blue is
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: the sex worker that I think what she she slept with.
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: One hundred super Gang Bang or whatever.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: So she just had a baby shower's baby power?
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Wait? Wait, explain was the baby? I know exactly what
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: it is just by what she's said the audience for
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: those who don't put So.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: There's a video.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Where where people are pretty much insinuating if she is
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: someone who is capable of being a good mom, because
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I guess at this baby shower she had all these
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: guys in Shisty's they were man and so the conversation is,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: if you're willing to let that be done to your
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: body while you're carrying the baby, would are you? Are
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you going to be a mother that won't put your
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: child in harm's way by still doing sex work things
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: or sex work at the port they're like you are
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: with baby, But also I think pregnant people out here
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: getting pissed on, like it's that what you're you know?
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Maybe I don't care for people to see what's happening.
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: But yeah, he's just like a bunch of niggas.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: The ses is a part that takes it to.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: A like, it's all right, that kid is going to
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: be And I will say, all the shasties were blue,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: so I guess they're all team boy.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Oh ship shy. That's the crazy. So it's so it's
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: a it is a baby shower gender revealed.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Ish you know, man, maybe that was the gender reveal.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: That's why they all had blue.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: I wanted it too far, crips.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Now we're taking it too far.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: I want to get pissed on by twenty cribs. That's
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: what she said.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: That's the DP crazy. That's what she said.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: That's that's crazy.
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: That's how you get dpised.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: She's pregnant. Who the father that.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: None of us know because they're claiming that it may
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: have came from that gang bang.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah number five shaking that down. This ship just keeps
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: getting worse and worse and worse they got, that's what
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: they were able to get them to show up.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, well, jays, let's get into this is America.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Let's get into our politics. Portion of the pod.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Breath.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, don't don't do this. You are being so extra.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: You're being so extra.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: You want to introduce the Carmelo Anthony trial and maybe
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: some backstory on what the story is for those who
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So, this is a story that's happening in Texas
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: that I feel like it may be flying under the
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: radar nationally, but certainly not with Mandy, because Mandy's been saying,
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Carmelo Anthony, Carmelo Anthony. We think it's the next player,
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: but it's not.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: It is not.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: It's a high school it's a high school student who
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: got into an altercation with another high school student who
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: is the star football player. This happened at a track meet. Uh,
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: and then you know, it led to a stabbing and
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: the other kid, who, like I said, it was the
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: star football player. His name is Austin Metcalf.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: He died fatally of the wounds. And now Carmelo Anthony
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: has been charged and currently it's the trial's happening right now.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, so I want to add a little bit to that.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: In terms of the trial, he is being tried as
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: an adult. This is for first degree murder, and as
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: of this week, none of the twelve jurors or the
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: six alternates selected for this trial are black, despite the
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: fact that this was quite the case last year when
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: it happened.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Due to the fact that the student that did the.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Stabbing that's now on trial is a black student and
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Austin Metcalf who did pass away, is white.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: So the question and conversation I wanted to have around this.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Is an all non black jury automatically unfair. I do
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: also want to bring up that this is in Texas,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: which is predominantly and has been a red state.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Which does lean into even when.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: We talk about Bible Belt, they're not really associated with that, however,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: they are very just Southern.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: In Yeah, Texas has a reputation for being an outlaws state. Yep,
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: like you know, like we do what we want in Texas,
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: and Texas has harsher penalties and they're down for all
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: this thing, capital punishment, life in prison, the whole gamut
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: of things that you can do.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Fucked up to somebody. Texas as game four.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Now, to me, this is giving a reshuffle. If this
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: was spades, we get no spades. It's giving reshuffles. This
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: is a misdeal. This is a mis deal.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: For me, especially when a case becomes a national story
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: and you know that there is an element of race
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: discussion in it, I absolutely do think it is unfair
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: to not have one black juror. Now I would love
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: to if we could for the sake of this take
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: because I do think it blinds us as well when
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: we have race cases.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: If we take out Carmelo.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Anthony being black and it's two students that are both
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: black or both white, that's not even you know, do
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: you view this case differently?
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Because for me, I would just go and.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: The setup in the setup job, it was an alter
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: case that happened to attract me. Apparently was underneath the
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: tent kid and he said that it was in self defense.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, since it happened, the defense is that it was
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: self defense.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: The other thing is, and Yomi brought up that it
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: might not have been a knife. I read a knife,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: but it was apparently a cleat sharpener. But he stabbed
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the boy in his heart like he was a and
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: so there there was intent to kill. Although there was
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: just a shuffle, it was a fight. Now a king
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: is like he was being bullied. I in no case
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: believe that a student should stab another student in the heart.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: And so for me, I understand self defense. But if
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: it was a shuffle, it was a tract meet. I
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: don't think a weapon should It shouldn't have gotten to
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: a point where there was a weapon, even if there
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: was size difference. So for me, as I'm looking at
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: this case, seventeen is also a tricky age as to
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: whether he's a child or adult.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I understand that's a little true.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Well, I want to add something to.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Please add something to this, because.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: So that Texas is a red state, right right, right, rod,
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: So there is also a stand your ground state very
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: much so that we're proceeding on legal jargon and terminology
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: by the definition of these titles and terms. Well, that
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: jury of twelve eleven people or whatever it is, they
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: have what we call in Texas called.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: The castle doctrine.
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: Yep, the Castle Doctor Cattal doctrine presumes that you are
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: justified to using deadly force to protect yourself God against.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Someone is this against Hold on? Hold on, We're gonna
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: get down.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Because then your ground in Florida is only for your home.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: We ain't talking about Florida. Florida might not to be
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: in the state. We might replace far.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: Uh, but deadly for to protect yourself against someone who
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: is unlawfully and forcefully entering or attempting to enter. Okay,
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: that's the work. That's the addendum. Hold on, that's that's
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: the addend really to stand your ground. The castle doctrine
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: is the addendum to that ground. You have the legal
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: right to be in a location where a threat to curs.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: You're not engaged in criminal activity at the time. This
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: is when stand your ground is applicable. You did not
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: provoke the situation right on the Texas law, you have
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: no legal duty to retreat from an attacker before using force,
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: including deadly force, as long as you meet those conditions
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: I mentioned previously. So I think what happens here is
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: what would the conditions that occurred prior to the incident.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: So it's funny you sub mentioned that, sir, I do
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: declare listen, listen, listen. I'm a NET fan, right, So
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: in this scenario, you know what I'm saying, Jalen Brush,
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: and I'm passing it off to you know what I
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: mean to ob You know what I mean, right, and
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: we might have to lob it back to the sham.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: You know he's gonna hit that three three and you
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: and this tradition. I see she's gonna be one beyond it. Right,
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: So the.
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: Conditions around this situation, right. The first thing I want
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: to note is that the so I don't go to
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: a lot of track meets, but the I did. Okay,
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: So a track coach was was brought to the stand.
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: He testified that a track meets are chaos and a
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: lot of times a lot of these athletes mingle with
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: each other. The athletes are all over the field, they
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: are different tints, they're all over the place. It's not
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: abnormal for a carmelo who doesn't belong to this team
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: to go into another tent. Now, he didn't just go
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: into this tent for no reason. He had a friend
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: or person that he knew in this tent. That person
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: also testified said, you know, I've seen car. We wapped
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: each other up. We sat down, we chopped it up
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: for a little bit, sat down talking. So this other
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: person was not tripping about. He saw somebody here, knew.
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: They sat down, had a conversation. Austin Metcalf decided that
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: this was not He didn't want this that going on.
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: He decided he didn't want Carmelo in this tent with them.
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: He has every legal right to be there. You can
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: voice your displeasure saying, hey, this is our team, get
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: the fuck out of here. He doesn't have to leave,
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: but Carmel. They all testimonies say Carmelo was sitting down saying,
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: y'all pussy, y'all not gonna do nothing. I want to
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: sit here. Nobody's gonna move me about this spot. Don't
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: put your hands on me or find out had his
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: hand in a book bag, they say. People, multiple people
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: testified to that he's sitting down. Austin Metcalf is standing
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: over him. Now at some point he's standing over him,
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: sitting down and telling this nigga to move, get up
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: out of here. So now you're a smaller person, they said.
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: Austin Metcalf had seventy eighty pounds on Carmelo Anthony. So
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: now you have a all a person who's sitting and
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: a bigger person who's standing over that person. That sounds
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: like a threat. That sounds like a threatening situation. You
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: got multiple teammates telling me get out of here. Now
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: they're all telling me to leave. Is getting a rowdy
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: and I'm sitting here saying, don't touch me. I'm not
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: leaving nowhere.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I haven't presented any threat to you so far.
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: Austin Metcalf proceeds to push Carmelo Anthony, which all the
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: prosecution's witnesses also testified to that Austin pushed him, he
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: touched him, first touched him.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I will tell you right now, is someone who has
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: been on a track team, has done track meets, basketball team,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: volleyball team, soccer team. I remember, yeah, ok, yeah, I
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: did the four bout one, I did the miles, and
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I did shot put that one, the mile and shot put.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Now all in high school, only only in college.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: But as someone who's been to these different meats, as
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: someone who was a teenager in sports, yes, there's a
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: lot of feelings and emotions that happen at these meets.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: However, with all the adults.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: That are normally around, with all of the other students
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: that are normally around, in no way, shape or form,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: if I get into a tussle with someone from another team,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: another school, another should there be any fear for my
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: life as a child in that setting.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: A lot of times, if.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: There's a tussle, it's a fist fight at most it's
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: going to get broken up really quick. So in no
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: way do I feel that Carmelo, I'm sorry, is justified
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: with stabbing another child in his heart over a seat
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: or a tussle at a track meet, because at most
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: you would have got a black eye, at most it
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: would have been a fight. But there are so many
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: adults at these track meets, there's so many students, and
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: if Carmelo, your homeboy was also right there or whoever
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: you went to go.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: See something would have been there.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: There was no reason to pull out a weapon because
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: at a track meet, as a child in a tussle
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: with just another child, I don't feel like you feared
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: for your life enough to stab this man, to stab
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: this boy where you did. And so I understand that, yes,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: this is Texas. I understand stand your ground because hello, uh, Florida,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: we've had a huge you know, uh uh Zimmerman, Zimmerman.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: And yes, and so I'm again understood. But when I
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: look at this as two young kids out of track
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: meet literally getting into a dispute and a tussle, in
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: no way shape or formed it that other boy deserve.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: To be killed.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: And so I get up you standing over him like
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: like to me, even if I push someone out the.
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: Way or bro you don't like, but you're assuming that,
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: you're assuming that.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: That his life is not frightened.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Yes, Metcalf would have just pushed him in. That would
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: have been in.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming, Yes, I'm assuming that another was not there
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: with a gun, was not there.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: When an what I'm saying, but you're assuming that other
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: white parents, so white coaches, would have.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Immediately jumped to.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: But even if it's not immediate, his homeboy was right there.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: That testified. So there's somebody that would have gotten in
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: the middle of its where it wouldn't have been to
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: where everyone would have died.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Because but that's what I'm saying.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Who knows how quick if he sat there and said,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: don't touch me around and find out and then he
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: goes to push me doing it.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying, even with.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: What you said to the Castle law something about provocation.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: So if he was provoked, which he said like if
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: he said do something, then to me, that's a that's
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: that's what do something.
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: Well, No, they what they said, Carmelo said was they
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: were talking to him.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: The quote is touch me and find out. That's what.
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: No no, no, But I don't think that's provoking. I
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: don't think touch me and find out. No one should
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: be putting your hands on anybody. Touch me and find
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: out is everything anybody to find out?
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: How touch me and find out?
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: O touch me and find out to this day if you,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: if you touch me, find out we're fighting.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: In no way do I sit here and assume, especially
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: as a child, that you gonna sit here and stab
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: me in the heart.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: Hey, if i'm if I'm i'm five seven five, if
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: I'm having a back and forth conversation with a nigga
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: that's sixty five two seventy five, and I say, touch
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: me and find.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: Out I'm not gonna wrestle with this nigga.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: You're mine now.
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: Now the situation is my I could be in grave
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: danger of bodily injury or president.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's a different for men. You know, So I
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: thought a big bitch one time right at the strip club.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: She was the door girl.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: So hear me because because for women, even with a
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: size different, I was always told because bitch, I'm only.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Five to one.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: But the bigger they are, the harder they fall, is what.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: So I don't give a if a bitch is bigger
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: than me. All I got to do is get that
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: bitch on the ground and she don't like So I'm
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: so I'm at So I'm at the strip club.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: The girl was the door girl.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I already didn't like it. That's how you know she
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: was a big bitch. You got in right, So big bitch.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: So we in Orlando, and all I know is she
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: came over and started saying.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Some fly ship. She also did some like goofy ship
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: that I ain't like.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: And so I and my phone to my own girl
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: because this back then when you had a BlackBerry, and
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not a BlackBerry and a sidekick or something, or
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: maybe like the first iPhone and a BlackBerry, but this
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: is back then when you had the BlackBerry.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: So she comes over, big bitch. She towers.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: When I say big bitch, I'm also talking size stockings,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: yeah and probably five.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Eight probably big bitch. Yeah.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, So she comes over and we fight, and I
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: mean clearly I get kicked out because she worked for
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: the established, right, So I go on. My little nigga
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: was there, so I hit in his car until we
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: dip because they had called the cops because we're fighting.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: But when we got into that fight, yeah, she fell first.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: They got me off on top of her, so I
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: was on top of her. So again, I don't know
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: the difference with men, but with women, the harder they fall.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: I think you said you said she was talking. You
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: said she was talking fly ship. Do you remember talking
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: fly ship?
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: You said what?
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: Because because because I think, I mean, I think realistically
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: it's like, you know, when you say that saying like
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: there's two Americas, it's like Carmelo said, like, you know,
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: touch me and find out. That's a warning, right. I
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: think white boy might have took it and thought that
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: it was like an invitation, and you know, I mean.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: You know what's crazy, I'm not gonna and I might
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: have been yeah, and.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I hate it because I gonna buy racial but I
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: think that's what happened.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I swung first because she got in
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: my face and said like, oh bit, you ain't gonna.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Do and.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: And so you can't invite something.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: That's why I said the word provoked, because at the
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: end of the day, to yes to Americas. But if
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: you sit here and you're in my personal space, in
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, if we are in each
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: other's personal space, and then you taught me like I
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: ain't gonna do something, and then I do it, like yeah,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: What I mean, Like, but a isn't a threat.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: Like if we're a road rage, right and we pull
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: we were talking to each other and we pull up
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: to a red light and the nigga pulls out a gun,
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: flashes a gun, said, nigga, all care, shoot me that
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: nigga do that ship and he shoots me, that's not me.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: He's going to prison me saying shoot me that nigga
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: is legal standard.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Do you want to know what's crazy about?
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Because I said that he's going.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: To prison And that's where I hate that Carmelo Anthony
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: and then a trial where he was provoked enough to
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: do something that now has him being tried as an adult,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, there has to
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: be some level of of of sense that as two children,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: like your life is not threatened for you to even
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: stab him, like even if you get a tool.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Niggas died all the time.
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: I think the other element here is the racial component.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: You know we tell our children, well one we tell
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: our children and we've been told don't be no pussy.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: Somebody raised up on you in school. You know, you
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: let them let him know what him know what is?
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: Then you add that with him being in Texas, what
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: is his parents? What if both of their parents conversation
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: as it relates to the escalation, Well, you're just dealing
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: with the other, oh right.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: But they are.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, as still a
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: little black boy, there should never also be a conversation
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: where as parents and who knows what the conversation was,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: but there shouldn't be conversations where you kill another kid
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: like like, you.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: So I get I get what you're saying, because yes,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: there's that element of black and white, but you stab
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: the other little boy in the heart like this isn't
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: like the case where the twenty year old uh son
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: and dad from the grocery store chased that little black
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: boy out out the store and shot him in the
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: back like he should not have done.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: And that's a whole other conversation. Don't want to go there.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I understand the elements of race, but that's why I said,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: when we remove it, these are two kids that attracked me.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like his life was in danger and
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately he did what you did.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: He got provoked.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: And if that person would have shot you in the vehicle, yes,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: he would have went to jail. This this boy, Carmelo
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Anthony got only not on a fight, brought a weapon
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: too a fight, stabbed another young boy in his because
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: that's intent.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: What do you mean say he bought a weapon to
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: the fight?
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Well, he brought up his hands were in his book
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: back as projection.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: That was for him because he felt it. I feel like, oh,
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: he felt numbered threaten.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Maybe it wasn't a weapon, because
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: again they said it was a clear.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: That was the only thing in his in his.
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: Jurisdiction, in his you know, proximity that he was like, damn,
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: I got to get something because they are about to
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: swarm on me. And he probably was like, yo, just chill,
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: leave me alone, Leave me alone.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Carried Carrie's based on the information that we just shared,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: because I do want to get to the next topic.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, Jason John A King.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: What's up? You're a jour.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Where do you where do you lean in this? After
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: you read the law, like.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: You have no legal duty to retreat from an attacker
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: before using force, So including deadly force. As long as
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: you meet the following conditions, you have a legal right
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: to be in a location where the threat occurs. You
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: are not engaged in criminal activity at the time, and
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: you did not provoke the situation. So you're if we're
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: going legal jargon, you know what I want to say,
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: prayers to all parties involved, because I wish there was
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: a scenario timeline with none of this.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Can I ask you, a king, do you read that
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: law exactly like that?
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: I wonder who the law.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: But but right.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Has a gun?
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: But reading that law, a king, if the races were reversed.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: They would lean if the race, But if the races
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: were reversed, no, would you lean heavily into this as
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: well and say that that the white boy was justified
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: in stabbing the little black boy, like and I want
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: you to put yourself in that.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: That's that's a good Are you only viewing.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: The innocence of Carmelo Anthony because he's black? A black boy?
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: I think you still gotta go with the If somebody
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: tell you to leave me alone and chill and chill
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: the funk out, and you you violate that, then it's whatever.
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: At that point you aline, So I'll say as a
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: two quick things, Hey, to me, this is obviously part
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: of the race, is part of the situation from a
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: societal standpoint, that's what really race in this situation. I
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: don't know how much it plays as much in the
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: actual stabbing as it does in the jury situation, Like
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: there's no black jursey, Like the sixth Amendment guarantees us
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: all a fair and speedy tribe by a jury of
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: your peers. If the jury is all white, I don't
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: know how much that's a jury of my peers. Like
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: if we know, if we're gonna say that race is
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: an issue in this case, then it would be much
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: to me, would be much more transparent and much more
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: understandable to say, all right, well there's.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: Twelve people here.
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: Let's get six white people and six black people, and
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: if y'all can hash it out amongst each other, y'all
• 46:12
  Speaker 6: come to whatever conclusion y'all come to.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Great.
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: The other part I want to mention is I'm disappointed
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: in some of the niggas. There was six hundred jurors
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: summoned for this case. They picked twelve out of six hundred.
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: Some of the Black people that got struck got struck
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: because one of the guys said, I don't know if
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: I can put a brother in jail. That's what my nigga. Lie,
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: Lie to these people. Why the fuck would you be.
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: I don't give a fuck what you think. Nigga, don't
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: tell them I don't know if I can put a
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: brother in jail.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: Lie to these people. You already know it's stacked up
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: against them. The game.
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: You know what it is already. The jury is already
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: going to be stacked against this kid. You already know
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: what the situation is. You can get in there and
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: you can be as fair and in part as you
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: want to once you get in there, But if you're
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: not in the room, then what you think don't matter
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: no more.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: So.
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: A lot of these people got struck giving themselves away.
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, yo, fuck, these people lie. Just be neutral.
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: You don't have to and just be neutral.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: They don't even have to lie. You don't have that.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: The thing is is like the race is a part
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: of it. That that's just a part of it. And
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: even if you go to like what I'm saying, where
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: it's like, was it a threat or was it an invitation?
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: Part of that is cultural. So like you don't have
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: to say I don't, I don't, I can't put a
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: black man in jail. You want to see justice, be
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: a part of it is who you are. Being a
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: black person helps the trial, and it helps the trial.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: You may see something the way then another peer who's
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: on the jury may not see.
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: And if you get in there, and even if you
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: think I can't put a black man a man in jail,
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: if you get in that jury room, you hear the
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: evidence and you just look at the situation to your
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: point of Okay, even though he's black, I'm hearing all
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: this evidence and I feel like it's this. Then do that,
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: but at least be on the fucking jury. Don't give
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: them a reason to strike you because you're just saying
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: obviously bias shit out loud for no reason.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: I just I hate that shit.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: But to me, unfortunately, we're still in a place and
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I get like reparations, I get that black men are
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: are unjustly like imprisoned when they're not supposed to be.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I'm fully aware of all those things, but and killed,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: but it leans us back into like even the OJ trial.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: So when I say here and ask you hear me
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: out when I see here and ask you, if these
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: two seventeen year old boys were flipped in race, you
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: absolutely would have wanted to see that white boy go
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: to jail for this crime of killing a black boy.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: It's just when we look at them as children, it's
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: a tussle, it's a fight. I understand the race element,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: but you now are like, h No, I don't want
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: to see the black boy go to jail.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: But if the races were reversed, you want to.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Say, the law is the law. That's it.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: If somebody, if you've been warned and you violate that
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: personal space, and whatever happens after the violation, garssy black, white, brown, whatever,
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: it's over with. That's fair. I think that's that's why
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: I read. I was like, wow, okay, it's there for
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: a reason.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah to me.
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: To me, it's a it's a fair way to look
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: at it. As if in the COMD.
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: How much black man is running down on a white
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: white white person like that. You don't see that imposing
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: it will on a on a white person who does that. Yeah,
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: the white If niggas want to be left alone, Mandy, Yeah, nigga. Historically,
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: you never see Nigga doing that ship and they might
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: say some ship, but nobody's physically trying to impose themselves
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: because there's a cultural historical something that's in our DNA
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: that's like, yo, don't be the aggressive unless you need
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: to be, and that's usually on d.
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: And it seems like that's what Like they voted Carmelo
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: to be the captain of his track team.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: He's an honor student.
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying that to mean that you can't do
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: crime and being a hard student and the captain. But
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying is that even when Carmelo got bagged
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: the cop that oh, we have the alleged with alleged
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: purposetter here, he said, I'm not.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: A leg I did it. He admitted it. He said
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: it to the cop while to get put of the handcuffs.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: I did it. So in his mind he's like, yeah,
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: I did it.
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: I didn't come here to murder nobody. I came here
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: to sit down and talk to my man. These white
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: people got in my face, Nigga put his hands on me.
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: I stabbed him. So he's not that he's not even
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: admitting that he didn't do it. He's saying I did
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: it in self defense, and they have to because of
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: and I don't know how much we didn't talk about
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: the rich child case that happened in Arizona, but essentially
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: the there's a situation now where the defense, I'm sorry,
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: the prosecution has to prove that it was not self defense.
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: And that's a different burden than the defense having to
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: prove that it was. So if I'm saying it's self defense,
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: then it's on y'all to figure out how you make
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: the case that no.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: It wasn't self defense.
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: This is the first degree murder, premeditated, You laid in weight,
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: you did it on purpose, like all of that. And
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: I don't think they can prove any of those things
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: that I was laying in weight, that I came here
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: to murder this kid, none of that. It was a
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: split second decision of oh shit, they might fuck me
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: up real bad. I gotta do something right now. And
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: unfortunately the kid got stabbed in the heart. That's like
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: a very delicate place to get stabbed at.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: But I'm curious your thoughts.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Of course, if you're in the discord, share your share
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: your thoughts and comments on YouTube as well. Please, and
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: if you are not watching us on YouTube yet go
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: to YouTube dot com backslash at with Mandy B.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Jason. Our next topic, We're gonna get canceled. Our next topic?
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Do you want to read it? The YouTube couple that's
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: receiving death threats about this?
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is the question.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: Let's see here. YouTube couple receives backlash for terminating a
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: pregnancy with a disabled child. Yes, And the hot takeout
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: there is do you agree or disagree?
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Now, if you want to read her, I can get
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: into this.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: So influencer couple Jesse and Ashley Ridgeway opened up about
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: a stating family decision, revealing that they terminated a pregnancy
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: after finding out their unborn child had Down syndrome. Now,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: the way Jesse tells it, the decision came after extensive
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: conversations with medical experts, friends and family. He says he
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: initially felt optimistic about raising a child with the condition,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: but later learned more about the potential health complications and
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: lifelong challenges often associated with the disorder, which led for
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: them to choose to terminate the pregnancy.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Now, there's a lot of backlash.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: The viral tweet that went along with it was unpopular opinion.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: If you're having sex, you should be prepared to raise
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: the child that results, regardless of disability, diagnosis, or circumstance.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Do you yeah? Do you y all agree? Do you disagree?
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: It's interesting too, because I think the state of North
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: Carolina is trying to pass a law it's up for
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: legislation where they deem all abortions, no matter the circumstances,
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: no matter.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: What it is.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: That is a crock of shit.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I saw this, and I'm upset that.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: The internet, parents nonparents have so much opinion about what
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: this woman and man chose to do for the sake
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: of their family planning.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Secondly, key, Secondly.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: You also can't sit here and be on the side
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: of wanting women to make the choices that they want
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: to with their bodies and sit here and chatize this
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: woman for choosing to not go through with a pregnancy.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Then let me.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Tell y'all, in this economy, I have friends with children
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: with disabilities. It is expensive, it is tumultuous on their
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: mental health, and it is something that I'm not gonna lie.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. It is very
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: hard and so for me as adults, I'm actually this
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: type of coming forward. This is something that I wish
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: we actually could see more of because these are two
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: adults that are aware that they may not have the
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: capacity to raise a child. But we talk about children
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: being in homes with unfit parents. We just talked about
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: it with possibly Daphney joy Right. These parents knew that
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: they were unfit to raise a child and maybe provide
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: the help, the love, the care that this child was
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: going to need to live and fulfilling life. So we
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: talk about caring about a child's life, it has to
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: be as well with the home that they're going to
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: enter and what help it needs that they may need.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: And so mind you, I do have a sister who
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: takes medication because she's epileptic. So when she was pregnant,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: she literally had to wait till a certain trimester because
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: of the medication.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: There was a.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Chance that the spine could be inside out, essentially like
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: there's a certain thing that this medication could cause for
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: the baby. And so she had to get past a
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: certain trimester before she could even next to this child
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: because there was even she was suggested or told that, yeah,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't want to go to full term because
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: this baby is gonna have a very difficult complication.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: And so for me when we get into the russal
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: of Rob Wade.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Uh birth control not being as accessible or expensive and
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: where we're at, I'm just I'm disgusted that as a
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: society we're trashing and sending death threats to a couple
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: that made the decision that they that they can't do it.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you can.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: Sending a death threat is real wild. You're gonna kill
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: your baby. I'm gonna kill you.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna kill you. How dare you like it? And
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: they're not gonna help you at all? No, all them
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: to watch.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: Let's let's be very clear.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna push that that that wheelchair, Joe, Are you.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Gonna help me pay for these medical expenses?
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Are you gonna help find me a school that is
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: passion for this child? Because guess what, your kids are
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: probably the same ones bullying, Like are you teaching your
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: child to love and care for children with disabilities? Like
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: there's so little care to dis children with disabilities.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: And what's crazy is we all now have.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Also the language for it, right, Like when I was
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: growing up in school, we just thought they were bad.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: They had the bad kids, right, the like they were
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: in the smaller the smaller class, they ate lunch at
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: a different time. We thought they were bad, not that
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: they had ADHD, not that there was autism, not.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: That there was the host of the issues that can
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: go on with the child.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: We just said, oh, them kids are the bad ones
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: and said there and they and they had to be
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: in classes away from the quote unquote regular kids and
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: things like that. It's difficult. And now we actually have
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: the language. And so we have parents that are like,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I know what it would be to raise is this child?
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to it's so much ship I think
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: we I wish that was a private situation, but they're
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: not private. So obviously they have to give reason why
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: they're not having this child, right, But it's not a
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: It's something that we should all think about.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: You know, well, what should we think about?
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: Well, if the if the physicians are saying, you know,
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: the baby is going to be a certain way, can
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: you are you going to be able to sustain and
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: fulfill the commitment that's needed for long term care of
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: those are the factors that you should consider as a
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: woman and man when you're dealing with this thing and
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: I don't mean it like that thing meaning to scenarios
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: for those because you know, dang you. But it's just
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: I don't have no problem with their assessment, their reasoning,
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: and their final the conclusion to that scenario.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: Now, let me ask you, surface it looks crazy, Well,
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: the other part you mess around messing with it any gat,
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: but it's not the.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Other part of the internet is saying that they should
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: have just kept us to themselves.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: So that everybody's gonna say, oh, what happened to the baby? Yeah,
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: because you're.
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: Doing content every day and we see the bump with baby.
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: That's the thing I was gonna get to, is that
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: A yeah, I probably. I mean, like you said, they
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: are a YouTube couple.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: This is what they do. This is their content wheelhouse.
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: So you have to address it day one after we
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: had our first son, of day two also when there's
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: no more days like what happened. But also I think
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: there's a way to address it that you know, they
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: didn't even have to provide all of that backstory.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: They didn't want to, That's true.
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: They could have just said we've decided not to go
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: forward with this.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: That's how you that's how you think it should have
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: been left.
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: I personally, I wouldn't have given people this amount of
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: because been able to go back and forth.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a miscarriage if you are pregnant. Unfortunately, that's
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: the thing. There's there's women that can't have babies in
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: every fuck thanksgiving their families, like when you're giving.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: Us at yeah right right.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: The way that people feel so entitled to the womb
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: over the yeah is disgusting. Yeah, and so for this,
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: even if the statement just would have been we lost
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: the baby.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: How.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: But here's the thing.
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: If somebody, if it ever leaks that that's the reason why,
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: then that's gonna be an issue that you're gonna have
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: to respond.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: I mean to me.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, again, if you if the bump was there, you
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: shared this journey and you chose to not continue with
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: the full length of the journey, yeah why.
• 59:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, here's a reason why. So that's that's one part
• 59:33
  Speaker 6: of it. I think the other thing is is that
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: this isn't like a new scenario. People have been under
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: these kind of situations forever about get you go to
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: the doctor, you get your sonogram, they tell you what's
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: going on, and they say, hey, we need to talk
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: about this something might be going on with your child.
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: This is not nowhere near a unique situation to these
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: particulars like this happens to a lot of people who
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: have to make that decision. You can't pick and if
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: you if you think that abortion is a woman's choice,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: in this case, a woman's choice and a couple a
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 6: couple of choices. They're talking about that they decided to
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: do this, you can't pick and choose the reason if
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: you don't like if the reason was I can't we
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: got pregnant, but neither of us can afford to have
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: this kid right now. People who are pro abortion, who
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 6: might be critical of this couple would say, oh, we
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 6: understand that you can't if you can't afford the baby.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 6: You don't want to be you're not ready to do that,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 6: you have things going on in your life. They would say,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: we understand that that's your choice. People are upset because
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: of the optics of it, say, oh, well, you're treating
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: a potentially disabled child as less than you're throwing a
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 6: disabled child away, And it's like, okay, if that's the
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: path you want to take with it. You're saying that
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: the child's situation is more important than the mother's and
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: that's exactly what conservatives and Republicans argue for why abortion
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 6: shouldn't be illegal because the child is supposed to have
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 6: this autonomy that you shouldn't be ablowed to take a
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: child's life once it's a once it's conceived, it's a fetus,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: is growing, it's a child that can make its own
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: decision quote unquote about whether they come into the world
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: or not, So you can't. And so if that's your
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: logic behind it, arguing that these people are wrong for
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: doing that contradicts the whole argument that you're trying to
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: make about why this is why that's not true when
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: conservatives and Republicans try to pass laws for that same reason.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Jason, I'm curious because you and your your wife have children.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Has this ever been a conversation with you during the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: links of pregnancy? Do you agree with this couple? I
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: know you're not as public, but what are your thoughts
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: on this?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's interesting.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: So my wife and we had our child. My wife
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: was over thirty five years old, which classified or automatically
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: is a high risk pregnancy for women. So you know,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: it's like every type of situation becomes like a you know,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: a conversation you have to navigate with whether it's your
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: wife's health or the child health, and you know, those
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: are like really complex conversations. And I think what happens
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: with internet discourse is that they try to act as
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: if morality can exist in a vacuum, right, And the
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: thing about like like moral values and moral decisions, they're
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: so complex because you have to take into account your
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: financial situation again what you said earlier, your mental health,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: and so you know, people are making these conversations, ex
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: give me these decisions with all kinds of factors chilted in,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: and they're trying to like weigh them and make it
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: determine like what our consequences or not. So it's just
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: a really difficult thing. And we have like the Internet
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: on your back, which is like this happened this one thing,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: so this is wrong and that's just not the reality situation.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: So like we me and my wife, you know, we
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: have one daughter. Shout out to madd he's almost nine
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: years old. It's a difficult conversation. You have to make
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: all these decisions that you're only like you're just hoping
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: is the best and you're hoping that you're making the
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: right decision, and that's just when you do it in private,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: so to be like a YouTube couple where your brand
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: is to give and talk about everything, and also like
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: where the woman I'm assuming is thinking that she's doing
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: the right thing because she wants to express like it's
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: my you can make your own choices, you know. I'm
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: trying to like make sure that the way that the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: world is tilting doesn't close for women's choices. Like, you know,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: I'm sure she certainly had her right reasons that she
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: felt were righteous.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: And I'll say.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Not only that I think this is this to me,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: the act.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Was not great, you know, let me make that clear,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: but also in a world where the abortion conversation is
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: normally that the father has no say, this was a
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: decision made by both parties, which we normally also don't
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: really hear about because a lot of men are like,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: she made that decision without me or I wanted her
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: to have it, but she chose to keep it anyway,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: It's often not the conversation when it comes to abortion
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: that both parties agreed that this was the best for
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: them together. So I loved that both parties were even
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: able to make this decision together and again with the
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: help of professional experts, friends and family.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: This was a group decisions and a lot of time
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: times when you have, you know, to your point about people,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: you know, feeling like they have entitlement to a woman's womb,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: like you know, find out a couple is having a baby,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: and one of the most common questions is, you know,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: do you want a boy if you want a girl,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: And one of the most common answers.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Is a healthy baby.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: That's what people say when they get that question. And
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 6: the reason that said is because that is one of
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 6: the biggest fears. It is is that like, yes, it
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 6: could be high risk to the mother and the child
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 6: might not be well depending on the millions of complications
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 6: that that could happen with the human And.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: So I will determine the trajectory of how you can
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: function for forever.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: From that point on.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: It's like either gonna go that road, this road or
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: that because nobody wants to go to.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: The functioning parent or not. Yeah, and will be a
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: good transition right here, Come on, get us.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: Into okay, yeah, I say no, this is the transition
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: he has to do talking about bad parents.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, transition us.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: Yes, So celebrities say the darnedest things. And Little Boosie
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: held a pool party and he was very specific about
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: his pool party and you could come there, and he
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: said no trans people are allowed at his pool party.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: He's even going to be checking Adam's apple.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: And now he does have a clip because he did
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: receive backlash for this, and I want you all to
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: hear his explanation on why he felt he could check
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: hand size size and Adam's apples.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: At the door.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: Everybody going nuts about me not one and my party.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 7: It's the same thing if they say no alcohol in
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 7: the bill, whatever we checking for. It's the same thing
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 7: as people saying you gotta bring clear bags.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing when.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 7: You go on the restaurant and they say no rips
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 7: in the jeans, no hats on. These people own this
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 7: establishment and it's certain things they don't go for.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: But but now you want to say your gay you want.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: To bullet people.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Y'all fought for gay rights for twenty thirty years.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: We said nothing.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: Maybe should we should fight for straight rights.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: You can't even say you can't even go again he
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: was walking down that street.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: You can't even you can't even go against against it.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: If you not, I need I need to hear your thoughts, job,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: because the way your head almost came off in there in.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: The side that was silence, I need well.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 6: First of all, comparing human beings to jean rips and
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 6: hats and bags is already crazy in itself, Like so
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 6: these people aren't people, they're things, They're objects, right, So
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: that's that's that's the logic that you're going with. And
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 6: that's not surprising coming from Boosie. But the the I
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: think one of the Bain problems is is, like, bro,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: first off, none of this had to.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: Be advertised like you have.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 6: If it's you're a party, you have a right to
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 6: invite wherever you want to at the party. And like
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 6: black women specifically have been complaining about this forever, and
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 6: especially in Miami in LA where it's like the guy
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 6: the door is checking you out, they're looking to see
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 6: what you got on and seeing how much they think
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: you weigh, and they're saying, ad, now you and your
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 6: friend can come the five of y'all stay y'all fat
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 6: asses over there, and your friend who has seven percent
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 6: body fat can come in his club and party with us.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, do the people who.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 6: Own that establishment have a right to pick and choose? Sure,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: technically by the law, I guess, But is it gonna
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: look good?
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: Is it morally correct? Do you not look yet?
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 6: You're gonna look crazy and you gotta eat that. And
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: I think that's one of the biggest problems with society
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 6: today is that people want their cake and eat it
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 6: too when it comes to well, I have the right
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: to make this decision, so no one can say anything
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 6: to me. No, you can have the right to make
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 6: that decision, and that right to do that still makes
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 6: you a piece of shit, Like you.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: Don't get to have both.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 6: So like, if you want your right right, well play.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 6: So if you want to kick trans people out of
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 6: your party or not allow trans people in your party,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 6: sure go ahead, I guess. But when it gets out
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: that you don't want trans people at your party, expect
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: to hear somebody's mouth about it. Also, I feel like
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: this only came up because I don't know if he
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 6: shared it or if he shared it the DM right
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 6: of like why would you share?
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: For what what are you trying to do?
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: The DM was a person asking if they allow people,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 6: which is already kind of crazy, but it's a boosy party.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 6: So I almost understand why a trans person would ask that,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: because I don't want.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: To want to go to a homophobic person's pool.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: No, I don't understand. Maybe no, but why.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: If you are a black person and someone is publicly racist,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: why would you be like, can I attend your event?
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: Hello? Have you not seen black mega every day? Yeah?
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you this story. I was at a
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: party in l A one time.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 6: The story come on and we're in there jam and
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 6: it's a good ass time. And you know the DJ,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 6: he goes through his little reggae set. Oh, he's in
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: his reggae set now. Now he's playing jams and he
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 6: gets to like the third or fourth song and it's
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 6: Boom by Bye Boy and Rule Boy and promote the
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 6: now sty mind of mine, fit Dead and the Biggest Job.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 6: And there's about eight nine gay niggas next to us
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 6: in and they are fucking partying.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: They are having a time of their life. Then listen
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: to the lyric. Don't know what the fuck that nigga
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: is saying.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: And even if they do, maybe they're letting you slide
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: just like them.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: Gay niggas. Probably go to Chick fil A and get
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: their sandwiches, and Liz.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: They look so like I'm a part of the community
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: Beet there to waffle fries and you goddamn sweets.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: And then madd as hell on a s.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: Get your sandwich.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: The thing the thing I think of those when you
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: go to ts A and and some you know, uh
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: it's something that's detected on the screen or whatever, and
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: they gotta patch you down.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: Like how boozy? Like what where are they looking?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: Because I don't got the ship coming out like this?
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: But I'm a dude, So it's like, what exactly are
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: you feeling in the throat area?
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: Pause? That will qualify disqualify your entry, right.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: And on top of that, there's been studying and what's
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: some big what if it's some six foot eight, well
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: your throat.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: And I just share too on on my other podcast
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: that there's certain hormones and things and male men's food
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: that's making the Adams.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: Apple go away.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Adams Apple ain't really around used to be. That's probably
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: why yours is going. You have too much taxings and
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: the food that.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: You see when I talk about doctor sab.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: I bet I bet you'd be alright if you have
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: some of that salmon.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: Oh god, I.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: Bet you some of that.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts with this?
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: So what does little Boozy think gay people in Transjason?
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: I need ton not ever say the little like that again,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: like does Boothy?
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: Does Boothy think that that they're so powerful that like
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: they just like rub up against them he turns gay?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: That's what most he his way to say, what does
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: he think that they do?
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: That's what that's like.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: That is the standard logic of most homophobes is that like, oh,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: if these niggas was around me, like I'm gonna just
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 6: drop to my knees and start sucking dick, I'm gonna
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 6: just bend over it like that's hot.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's the conversation.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Even when it comes to the trans bathrooms, they automatically
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: assume that a trans woman really wants to be is
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: a man that just wants to dress as a woman
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: to go win in Actually this idea that trans women
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: just can't exist like any other person. They're not forcing
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: their sexuality onto you. I also like commend this person
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: for even acknowledging that, Hey, this is who I am am.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: I welcome because there's a lot of trans women in
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: the conversation is that they're not letting people know.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: Which is respectful and sad at the same time.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 6: It's because because it's like, yeah, the fact you have
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 6: the self awareness to even ask is like okay, Like wow,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: that's that's swallowing a lot pause. Oh shit, I gotta
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 6: I want to go to this thing, but I have
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 6: to kind of debase myself and even ask this question
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 6: is it okay for me to go there?
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: And then it's like, damn, you have to even ask them.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I'll be honest with you.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: And if we're being honest here, yes, boosy wrong. But
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: being on.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: The other end, let's take it to New York twenty
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Both Team twenty.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: Fifteen, like meat Packing Area.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: I was a big bitch. Okay, I'm a black girl.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: So even Dream Rooftop or Bagatelle, there were certain parties
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: that when I got invited, hey they let am I
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: gonna be allowed to get in right because of.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 6: The dorm And you're protecting yourself in that kind of way,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 6: like a you don't want to be emotionally scarred and
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: traumatizing embarrassed.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: But you brought up, you brought up dark skinned girls.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: There's big girls, there's there's certain certain places. We do
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: just understand and so do the clubs come out and
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: say it vocally.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: No, Boosy didn't. Now mind you. I never want to
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: agree with Boosy.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: You know what's going on.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: But this is real selective ignorance here.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: True.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: If I'm having an event in my house, I could
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: say who's allowed to come and who ain't.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: No wait, wait, wait wait.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: I go to play.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: Parties, I go to sex clubs. They turn people down
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: based on looks or if it's.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: A hetero night.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: No, you and your partner can't come and have gay
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: sex in here like there are. I'm not mad actually
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: when I heard his logic, because at first I was like, God,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: damn you hoophobic ass motherfucker. But then when he said
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: his explanation of it.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: Don't worry when you like what you like.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: Some people like Kobe, some people like Lebron.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: Hello, listen, you see what I'm doing there.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: You see what I'm doing.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: Come on transitions, we trans.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: When they play spend that at the party. He's gonna
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: be scanning the premise and see the behaviors.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, who's a certain No, no.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not gonna lie.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: I just saw a video with Brandon Jennings and Nick
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: Young May that was a very sad They was like
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: spin that ship.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know that's the thing about that song, is
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: that men like that record.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's still is it spend that ship, Spend
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: that ship. Well, that's that's that's how words work. Right.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 6: If you're one person, you're hearing one thing, and if
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 6: you're somebody else, you're hearing something else.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: So tell me what you're here right here? John, so
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: walk a flock of flame. He's back in the headlines.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: He sat down with Tommy Laren and he went back
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: into his history with Donald Trump. Over he says, kamalot. No,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: he said, what does he say?
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Kamala like the rest of it.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: So let's hear. Let's hear some walka flocka.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: Real quick here in Nashville.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 5: You told me I can ask you anything, So I'm
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: going to start it off real hot, just jumping in.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: You ran for president. What do you think of President Trump?
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: How's he doing so far?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: Support him over Kamala Harris one hundred.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just like Kobe Bryan o' Lebron, because hey, Kobe
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: Bryant's a better basketball player to be, but Lebron's the
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 5: best right now.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: I never voted for anybody.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 6: In my life, so you didn't vote for I didn't
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 6: voted for nobody.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: Treat people in the overall, no big people, I can
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: hear you coming. I need any I need ninjas in
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: my o.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: You're a national.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: Me.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: I need no big seat people in the overall. I
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: need ninjas in. What is it? What is this talking about?
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: Will we mind?
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: You?
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: And I? And I like? I like wakak Waka.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: You like Waka's music?
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: No, I like Waka is an is a kind person.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: I like Waka. I like Waker's music. I wish Waka
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: would just shut the fuck up.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: Sometimes because to me, I've said this from a political
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: from a political standpoint, if you are somebody who.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: Was never voted, goddamn with zero desire to.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: For you to speak out or speak in favor of
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: someone that you that that also does harm to our community,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: Like it just doesn't make the fuck.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: S for what?
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: What is the end of this?
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 6: Like you're not so you're saying you're not you're not voting,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 6: so you really don't have any skin.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: You never you never voted ever, so you really don't
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: have any skin in the game.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 6: Even in that question, she asked why and you don't
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 6: even have reason, just no better, like.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and why did you keep they have they have
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: him come on these platforms and they never talk about
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: anything else is going on with them?
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, the whole thing.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 6: Was a bait because like, what else does Tommy Lauren
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 6: want to talk to.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: Watch to Walk about a black person hip hop community album?
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: Right right?
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know he just announced you got a
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: baby on the way, but I don't know about.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, if he does, I haven't heard anything about it.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Congrats, But yeah, you're right, what does Tommy Lauren want
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: to sit with Walk?
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: They identify, they identify with us to another divisive negro
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: let's platform him or her depending on who it is.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: That's that is And it's funny.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 6: I was thinking about that this weekend, Like that is
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 6: the new like media trick, the new grift, but it
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 6: never goes the other way, Like you're not gonna find
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 6: many white conservatives who black people who just who's decided
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 6: they want to be democrats now? And black people have
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 6: attached themselves to and be like, come on and talk
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 6: about how much you hate this this Donald Trump, you
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 6: hate Matt Gates or any of these Republican people. Niggas
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 6: aren't interested in that, but white people love. That's the
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 6: value of nigga. Like, the value of nigga is that
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 6: I can use it however I want to, whether I'm
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 6: telling you you ain't shit or whether I'm embracing you
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 6: because you're useful, You're a useful idiot to my agenda.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 6: I can use it however I want to. And it
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 6: doesn't even matter. Like that's how that construct is. Whatever
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 6: whatever y'all are on, we can take advantage of it
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 6: in some kind of way like that.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: And that's how she's moving.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: That's exactly how they move.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 6: That's how they Yeah, they're on cold with that and
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 6: they stick to that ship super hard for no deviate.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 5: Look wear in June terms we have Yeah, you're gonna
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 5: divisive ship happened all the time.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it's gonna it's gonna ramp up. You're
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: gonna see yeah.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: And I also just it's like how I chose Kobe
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: over Lebron, Like like this weekend talking about just speaking
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: of Kobe over Lebron. This is not a sports podcast.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: But hold on, you miked up over there, all right, cool.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: Hey yo hey yo hey yo hey yo chick numbered
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: clearly now I have to start with this because.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: The can't nights, the vacationers.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: This is what I well, my, oh my god, this
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 6: is what's going on in the New York.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: We't worry about that.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: When that ship Jesus Age Christ, when that ship.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: When okay, now, double down, take it back. The Spurs
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: losing these first two games.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: Y'all deserve to lose the whole thing.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: I will also say New York, y'all know because I'm
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: a New Yorker, New York.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: Hold on, I'm a New York.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: Hold up to.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: Say this on first off, And I've always said New
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: York is the best city in the world, and I've
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: always said that.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: It's the energy.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: It's this is the first time I never want the
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: finals to end. The content on the internet right now,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: the energyy is nuts. I get to see sen now,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: but with real people like the content on Instagram right
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: now is by far it shows the most like Knicks
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: fans are all on the spectrum. Knicks fans And when
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: I say spectrum, it's not just uh neurologically, it's uh
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: sexually because the men, ladies, if your man got a
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: Nick jersey on, is out there at the garden saying
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: that they will suck Brunson's dick for this.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: Like Bro.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: The way that men are just coming out as gay
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: for Brunton right now is like, okay, bro. By the way, ladies,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: these men are offering yokuci your mama COUCHI, your daughter COUCHI,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: your grandmama COUCHI for this Knicks championship.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, dick. That's what they are right now.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: It is I'm not gonna lie.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: I saw I saw a goddamn and I was saying
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: it before we started blue pasta and orange sauce.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: It was a Knicks frigga.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: Okayels, wait, there's Nicks.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: What I mean?
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: That's disgusting when I say I had.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: That's why I don't have Adams as eating that blue dye.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: I have enjoyed I have enjoyed Knicks fans more than
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: I have ever enjoyed Nicks fans in my life. Because
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: normally it's delusion. Normally it's tears, Normally it's anger. It's
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of frustration and so this is the first
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: time that y'all can actually really be excited without like
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: being so angry, and I'm really enjoying happy Knicks fans.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: You could have said that, No, No, I think so
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: being in New York for thirteen years, working as a
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 5: bartender for about five or six.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: Of them, going out because a bitch is an outside bitch,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: I have. I haven't become a Knicks fan because e yuck,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: it's been It sounds like like signing up to be
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: a Knicks fan is like I'm signing up for emotional distress.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: Like I'm not a masochist. I don't want to hurt.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be in pain. I don't want
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: to be upset every year, you know what I mean.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: I like the beach.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: I like the beach, and I just listen here you go,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: go go.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: Ahead, and just start. Go ahead.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying I've heard these narratives. Change. Listen.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: I think with your what we experience together is just
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: the spirit of New York, period, New York. No matter
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: if it's the Yankees, I wish it could be the Mets.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: Lord please somehow, But when when they're winning, when they're
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 5: performing well, this is the energy.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: You see.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: I think what happens is now we got social media,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 5: and not only social media, the.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: Knicks O G players are participating in it. You know.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: You see we'll get to that.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: Angela got to make.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: You see Jim outside with the blunt and he's getting
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 5: pushed old man and he's still held the.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: Blunt and keeps hold of It's a moment.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 5: New York is having a good moment despite what's going
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 5: on in society. And I love it for us, and
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 5: I love it for everybody else who's witness and I.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: Love that we as a team are going to get
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: to enjoy Game three and four in the garden.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: Now, well, not in the garden.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: In New York because baby them tickets listen, ghetto wait, Jason,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: y'all ain't got no tickets for the station.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: Like ninety seven, don't get to go to the garden.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: I know we did a we did a watch party,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: We had the mayor come to a watch party.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: We did.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: To tickets here.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: I think that's what we get your tickets to summer.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: H Okay, I saw.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: That shout to edit. I heard that Jason too. If
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: you want to slide the tickets over here, too.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 5: But but the thing is, it's a good it's a
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: cool experience, you know what I mean, It's cool.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: They deserved it, they earn it, they're earning it. Yeah,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, I do hate proven and they say is
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: wrong every every quarter.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: I hate that.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: Trump is about to rain on this parade as well.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: So Game three takes place tonight, guys, while we're according this,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: and they're telling so the outside watch parties are not
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: taking place any longer, which.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: Is good for the bars more and more and then.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: And then they are telling people with tickets who spent
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: all this money that they need to show up three
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: hours before the.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: Game with Claire bags.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: If you got to get through the thing now. Jason
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: is outside.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: Already right now.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 5: There is yeah, he thirty fourth Street. I bet they're
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 5: not playing now.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: They got to wear diapers.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: And I think every This is probably going to be
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: the most watched sporting event today in a long time
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 5: because of not just because the Knicks are in the finals,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 5: but where is he gonna sit. He's sitting in a suite.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 5: He's not I don't know, besties, but they're cool. They
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 5: have a good relationship because he sit with he's.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: The part of it is.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 6: I'll be surprised if he even stays for the whole game,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 6: because like the niggas, because it's who he is.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: But how long okay, so let me ask you, how long.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 6: Before they catch him on camera sleep if they're not
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 6: seeing the game and we're not at all.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: He calls all of this out here to sleep. But
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: he's a New york I forget that.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: So that's the thing there's gonna be. He has pride
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: Like Nick, He's probably most likely he's a Knicks fan.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: Well, he might be a Do I think he's I
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: think he's like go sports.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I see him sports like.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: I don't see him as being knowledgeable in any way,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 6: shape or for him about any sport.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: Alsoever, he knows about No, He's had a lot to
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: say about football.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: We talked about him last week, even with the person.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: He literally has a golf course like Trump is probably
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: a typical New Yorker, and a typical New Yorker is
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: a sports fanatic.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 5: I think he returns back to who he prior to
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 5: becoming president, who he was in the celebrity aspect of it.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 5: How we saw him navigating through hip hop spaces so
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 5: here's just might be his closer.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: To that tonight than you think.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: He goes to.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 5: No, I hope not hope the funk not he got
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 5: he got more ship to worry about in game four.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 6: Bro, here's the question. Obviously he's going to the game.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 6: They're gonna put him on a jumbo tron. Does he
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 6: get booed?
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: Yes? Is mix? Is it a full on booing? Is
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: it just a smattering?
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: I think the bos are going to be loud, so
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: he get booed?
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 5: So New York is I think you're gonna have the
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: ones who just want to be respectful, and I think
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 5: you're gonna have the ones who was like outside of
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: like when they greeted the San Antonio Spurs the other
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 5: yesterday and they saw him coming out the building and
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 5: he's like, yo, pack it up, keep that bus running.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: You know. Do you get those people who say what
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: they're gonna say to him?
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 6: Well, the other part of the content is going to
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 6: be celebrities reacting to that, is his view, because they're
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 6: gonna show him and it is gonna go to Ben
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 6: Stiller and Spike Lee and Chala May and Kylie Jenner
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 6: and whoever.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 5: The whoever bought them them two hundred and eighty thousand
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 5: dollars pair of tickets or the ones who won the
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 5: auction for five hundred grand?
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: Who are those peo? Those people they're going right to
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: the Are they doing that because he's there? What about? What?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: What's the credible hope the dude playing incredible hope in
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 5: the marble? Is he gonna be there just because because
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 5: he's been anti very strategy for a minute, very very anti.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see how that ship Jason.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: Is this a conversation in the city, like, what's what's
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: what is the consensus of him showing up.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: Anything that they're gonna he's gonna ruin the vibe like
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: people want to be outside. They think he's messing it
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: up and sucking it up and and and they're hoping
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: that like he doesn't ruin the street.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: That's the problem.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because that what is navigating in a row after
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 6: Trump going there, they're gonna bird jump tower down.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 5: See, I can't even Jason is a Philly fan, so
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 5: I can't really yon me how they try to throw this.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you rooting for the sweep, I'm rooting for
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: the sweet Spurs win. I'm rooting for the Spurs, but
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: right now I'm rooting for the Sweet.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 5: So my older brother was saying that he hoped they
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: lose one, they could win in San Antonio, and I say, no,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 5: I don't want that.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: I want to get the it's gonna happen in July.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, San Antonio didn't take one at home in game
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: one or two.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: I would now just for the sake of no.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: Actually, I don't want New York to go underwater, because
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: that's that's my way.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna birth.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: They wouldn't know.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is to see the Knicks win
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: in the Garden in a sweep, I think that chills.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it would literally be something that would be
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: so magnificent to be able to witness. Yeah, like the
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: spectacle of it, spectical of it, the way the city has.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: Already been parade.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: Yo, it's going to be a continuum of dope vibes.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: Spike Lee said, Yo, We're doing a black party in
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: Fort Green. It's gonna be so much ship that extends
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 5: past the summer. Everybody's winning, bro I.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: Saw online someone said a Knicks championship and three stadium
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: shows by jay Z.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: This summer is gonna It's a very New York summer.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: It's a very New York World Cup.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: In New York right, New York, Atlanta, California, and Canada Philly.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: I think, well, I'm excited. I do get to be
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: in New York during Game three and four.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: That's what.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: Road chat will be. Keem gonna be together for game four?
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe Yomi Jason. We gotta see where where we can connect.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: I'll see you in the morning. Though this is great,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: I'm loving playoff basketball.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: I don't want it to end an I double doubting
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: or taking a request?
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: What's the request?
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: Since you got this dope new hairstyle.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 5: Now, yes, yes, if we win, can we get an
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 5: orange and blue Skies?
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: Guys?
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: Why would you got to do that?
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: That's why Spurs in sixties. I'm not dying my hair
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: orange and blue. No, what are you wearing to the
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: watch forty?
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: Don't be black, they said, They say, Man, he's wearing
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: the Trump sneakers.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: Black.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: That means you wearing Spurs colors. No, they're they're gray.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 5: See now that essence the body, whoever the doorman, should
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 5: not let her in.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: You can't come on. Don't do that.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'll give me a little knicked top or
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: some with some bedazzles on it.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: But it'll be cute. It'll be cute.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: I ain't playing with y'all anyhow.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 5: You said what they did do you should have content.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 5: They had the head on Atlanta Hawk Jersey walking through
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 5: thirty four.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: They like, give me that, nigga. Absolutely not.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not gonna lie. I'm excited, y'all.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: See we got the Knicks banner up there, and it's
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: always on your head.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: You can't buy no merch who ship you go to anywhere?
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: Sold out? Oh my god, It's like.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: It's okay, I'm gonna get the scalpers, the one making
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: a fake murk. Hey, they' selling it.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: They got it. They got the two for twenty Okay.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: Right outside they.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: Are making that.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 5: You can get Schorris Joints that had the I love
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 5: Big Apple, I love New York.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: Those stores are they killing it? Right now?
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: By the way, before we get out of here, are
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: y'all upset that the organization did not lift the band
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: on Charles Oakley.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: Dolan is a petty bitch.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's been a petty bitch for his entire
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 6: ownership ten year over the next. It doesn't surprise me
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 6: at all that he's fucking doing this ship to Oh
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 6: that's dirty.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: What what it shows me?
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 4: Though?
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: Whatever it is the root of the issue, it's deeper
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: than we know.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 5: It's deeper than what we know, because when you have
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 5: the others that show up, who have been advocating for
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 5: them to have some piece, look at it.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: They don't have an issue. You got Pat, you got LJ.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: You gottucking And they're saying they would.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 5: Like him there because I think Adam, yeah in the
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 5: front office, Oh that's true. Yeah, so I think I
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 5: think Adam Silvera said that they tried to make peace,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 5: but is up.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: To when the commissioner couldn't even make any he travels
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: to you know, when you do the waste the way games.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: But yeah, well hopefully listen, I hope he's this one
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: for you, A king. Game four.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, Nixon, let's go.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 6: Biggest chale, Like, never mind the socialism, never mind the
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 6: free daycare for kids, never mind attacking the one percent
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 6: keeping this fucking city under control. Under any circumstance, win
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 6: or lose is going to be his biggest challenge of
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 6: his mayor senior.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know how long he has to be mayor.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: All I know is he is setting him up very
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: well to run for president at this point.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I can't run for prest.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: He's like he's he's not born.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: He's not born he was born. Never mind he could
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: be vice No vice gott.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 6: I think I think I'm not one hundred sure about that,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 6: but I think the vice president has to be born.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: Well, then he gonna be uh, he gonna be a
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: mayor as long as God damn you put him.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: In the cabinet.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: Who was who was the one?
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: Julian, Yeah, but I just felt like he was the
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: mayor for like my whole childhood.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: He was there for a long the whole.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: But like he was there for a long time.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:34:36
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• 1:34:37
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• 1:34:48
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