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Hour Two | River Talk, Sports Med with Dr. Etheridge & Matt’s Kankles · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 2: Drop a little bit here there.
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  Speaker 3: It is so she said that rivers all wet.
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  Speaker 4: You have lyrics mistrue anyways, rivers are famously wet. Is
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  Speaker 4: water wet?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? Is it?
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  Speaker 5: I feel like I don't In the lyric before she's
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  Speaker 5: like glitter on the West Street. So I feel like
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  Speaker 5: she's saying glitter. But maybe she is saying river.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, he's going to get the lyrics dot cop alright.
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  Speaker 4: Well, back in.
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  Speaker 3: Week number three, the river's all wet.
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  Speaker 2: The river's all wet, said it's twice. The river is.
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  Speaker 4: If you say water's wet, but.
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  Speaker 3: You're all.
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  Speaker 7: Say it again, you're all chrome, we're all but the rivers,
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  Speaker 7: the river's all wet.
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  Speaker 5: Wait both, she says both. She says the river's all
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  Speaker 5: wet and glitters all wet.
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  Speaker 8: A dried up river can be is also known as
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  Speaker 8: an arroyo arroyo, a r r o y o words
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  Speaker 8: are tough, sometimes or a wash in an arid region arroyo.
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  Speaker 8: That's what a dried up river is. So famously rivers
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  Speaker 8: are indeed, we.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, interesting, If they're not, then it's not a river.
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  Speaker 8: How would y'all say that? A that sounds better.
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  Speaker 2: The NBA. There you go, it's the sports Gotta tell
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  Speaker 2: you that that he did.
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  Speaker 5: Point guard l Arroyo is a restaurant in Austin, Okay.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, there's also another term for a river, fa Meryl
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  Speaker 8: stream mhm. Only it's only flows after a rainfall. Then
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  Speaker 8: it's dried up.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 5: Sounds like a flash flow to me.
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  Speaker 6: Any more questions about water being wet?
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  Speaker 8: I don't know, did I just get judged for bringing
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  Speaker 8: all this up. Was very relevant to the show. Yeah, great,
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  Speaker 8: you know, so not.
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  Speaker 5: Only is the river wet, but water water is water.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I'll do have one more one more thing, Dad,
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  Speaker 8: An intermittent stream is a river that only flows at
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  Speaker 8: certain times of the year.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so there's a lot of different types of rivers.
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  Speaker 4: Apparently your favorite river Mississippi red m the Red River
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  Speaker 4: is a good one to go on. Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: You got to answer your favorite river Missississippi.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, on Red River separates shreaveboard in Bosure.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Oklahoma Texas playing that that game the Red Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: it's been like the shootout, but I can't say shootout anymo.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's a Red River rivalry, which is very
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  Speaker 5: hard to say.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Can I finish my thought from the last segment, because
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  Speaker 5: I feel like I came off as like one of
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  Speaker 5: those people that's like, oh, everybody hates women. No, that's
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  Speaker 5: not what I was meaning to say, because he did
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  Speaker 5: call out Kochie as well.
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  Speaker 6: But like Danny, well Danny, and like I don't I
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  Speaker 6: don't know who you saw, but Danny did call it
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  Speaker 6: multiple people.
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  Speaker 5: Oh wait, do we want to Taylor has a vis
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  Speaker 5: I have her explanation.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, sure, go ahead.
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  Speaker 10: I don't know how is you know, I wake up
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  Speaker 10: early in the morning after covering a game late in
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  Speaker 10: the night before. Don't want to go too much into
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  Speaker 10: my progress or process or logic, but I will say
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  Speaker 10: I appreciate everybody's interaction on social media and all of
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  Speaker 10: your feedback. You know, there's tons of people that vote
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  Speaker 10: on the ep pole and like it's not a perfect system,
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  Speaker 10: but at the end of the day, like no matter
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  Speaker 10: who you pick, it does even out because there's so
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  Speaker 10: many people who vote, and like I said, it's really
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  Speaker 10: fun for discussion. It doesn't you know, probably matter in
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  Speaker 10: the end, but I'm glad that people are having a
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  Speaker 10: really good time with you.
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  Speaker 5: But as far as I feel like it kind of
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  Speaker 5: does matter if you have a.
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  Speaker 6: Vote, Yeah, I mean it matters, Like you want to
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  Speaker 6: make sure you're going through Like everybody's process is different,
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  Speaker 6: but whatever the process is, make sure that you're giving
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  Speaker 6: it the full attention that it deserves and needs.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty sure, she just said she did she did it
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  Speaker 2: when she was drunk.
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  Speaker 5: Over night.
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  Speaker 8: Sure, She's like, I did it pretty late at night.
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  Speaker 8: I don't want to really go into details. I don't
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  Speaker 8: even have an issue pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Much with the voting.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, moving Florida up after a loss is wild,
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  Speaker 7: but like you truly believe that it's fine. I thought
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  Speaker 7: she was going to get on here and like give
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  Speaker 7: a full explanation everything.
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  Speaker 3: She literally was like, I mean, even's out, like somebody
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  Speaker 3: did it right, is wrong, and then.
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  Speaker 7: It doesn't really matter on business doesn't really matter in
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  Speaker 7: the end, goes like.
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  Speaker 5: If you're going to move Florida up to spots after
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  Speaker 5: they lost, at least have a reason for it other
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  Speaker 5: than it doesn't really matter. At the end of the day,
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  Speaker 5: I was hungover, who cares?
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  Speaker 3: Like, but it's fun for discussion though, I.
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  Speaker 5: Mean, I guess it is. We are discussing it.
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  Speaker 8: Does she get that interview without doing it? Good for her?
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  Speaker 7: She said, She said it's fun to have a discussion
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  Speaker 7: and it doesn't really matter.
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  Speaker 5: But also she says she appreciates everybody's discussion about it,
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  Speaker 5: but they went private on Twitter when everybody was yeah.
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  Speaker 7: It's just it's it's just a bunch of contradictions, Like
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  Speaker 7: that's why I think like most of the heats coming
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  Speaker 7: from not the pole itself. Yeah, A reaction to it
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  Speaker 7: is awful and.
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  Speaker 5: Not I don't mean this in like an annoying way,
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  Speaker 5: but she does deserve all the heat. But then it
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  Speaker 5: just it gives people so much credence to insult women
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  Speaker 5: even more. I don't know, I know, I'm right a
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  Speaker 5: little bit. Yeah, and it's well deserved, Like I don't
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  Speaker 5: I'm not saying don't talk about it because she's a
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  Speaker 5: girl or whatever, but it is deserved.
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  Speaker 2: I hope it was fun.
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  Speaker 4: I just think, I mean, I just think if you have.
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  Speaker 2: Just give it the respect, like I was going to say,
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  Speaker 2: like respected.
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  Speaker 4: The respected, deserves, sit down, spend some time on it.
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  Speaker 2: I got.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have an AP vote.
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  Speaker 6: I'll never have an AP vote, but I do have
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  Speaker 6: a Heisman vote, and I take it very serious. You
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  Speaker 6: should like it is something that like I don't ever
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  Speaker 6: want to give back. So I want to make sure
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  Speaker 6: I do the process right. I don't talk about who
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  Speaker 6: I'm voting for beforehand because that's not allowed, so I
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  Speaker 6: don't do it. And I watch tape of about eight
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  Speaker 6: to ten players that I feel like could be in
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  Speaker 6: New York, and I watch them against their best opponents.
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  Speaker 6: And I watched tape for about two weeks before I
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  Speaker 6: decide and I turned my votes.
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  Speaker 8: Inly you talked about it after that, yes, after the fact,
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  Speaker 8: I can you talked about on this show like the process, And.
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  Speaker 6: I know I don't really think I ever did, because
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  Speaker 6: every time I bring it up t B, I was like, well,
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  Speaker 6: how do I get a Heisman?
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  Speaker 2: Tebb?
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  Speaker 4: I don't really know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's let's let's dive in last year.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I went, Travis Hunter won Camp Skataboo two and
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  Speaker 6: Ashton gent three. Is that kind of is that holded
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  Speaker 6: it up? Like the Camp Skatobo didn't even get to
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  Speaker 6: New York. I thought Camp Skataboo deserved to be there.
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  Speaker 6: He was somebody that I don't want to say single handle.
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  Speaker 6: It's a team sport, but I mean he kind of
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  Speaker 6: got Arizona State to the quarterfinal in.
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  Speaker 8: That playoff game too, Like he was you can rally,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, like you your vote was definitely right on
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  Speaker 8: after the fact when you.
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  Speaker 2: Watch that playoff.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, incredible Travis Hunter did. Was incredible
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  Speaker 6: to be able to play both sides of the football
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  Speaker 6: at a very high level on a nine win football team,
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  Speaker 6: uh to be able to retain the knowledge, to be
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  Speaker 6: able to play both sides of the football, which is
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  Speaker 6: something a lot of people don't talk about. So like
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  Speaker 6: that went into my thought process, you know, Like I said,
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  Speaker 6: I try to pay respect to the vote that I
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  Speaker 6: have high quarterback from Army. Bryson Daily, Yeah, probably, Like
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  Speaker 6: I had a hard time leaving him off my ballot,
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  Speaker 6: but you only get three.
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  Speaker 4: Bryceon Daily was awesome at Army last year.
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  Speaker 6: Remember, Army was like in the conversation of a college
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  Speaker 6: football playoff team out of the G five spot from
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  Speaker 6: a year ago, and you know they fell just short.
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  Speaker 6: You know they'd be too lame, I believe in the
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  Speaker 6: American Championship Game, then they lost Army and Navy. Did
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  Speaker 6: he get some boats, you get some votes, Yeah for sure.
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  Speaker 6: Like again, I didn't put him top three, but it
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  Speaker 6: was hard to keep him off.
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  Speaker 2: And now God fighting for the USMA.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah for sure.
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  Speaker 6: So look again, like and I don't want to just
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  Speaker 6: throw shade at the eight people. There's some people, I'm
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  Speaker 6: sure that take it exactly as serious as we're talking about.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sure there's some people that sit down every single
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  Speaker 6: week and they have a process and they've been doing
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  Speaker 6: it for ten, twenty thirty years. I actually would like
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  Speaker 6: to have somebody on that has an AP vote. I
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  Speaker 6: don't know, No Batteries has Maybe maybe Rabs has one.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe we can have money. He can talk about his process.
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  Speaker 6: But like the Coach's poll, I don't I don't say
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  Speaker 6: this for every coach, but I know a lot of
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  Speaker 6: coaches that allow their SID to be the person that
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  Speaker 6: votes for their top twenty five, and the coaches pull
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  Speaker 6: because look, I'm a coach. That's what I'm trying to get.
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  Speaker 6: I'm trying to get ready for. You know, what blitz
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  Speaker 6: are they going to bring this week? Are they going
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  Speaker 6: to play quarters or quarter quarter has? Are they going
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  Speaker 6: to run gap schemers, zone scheme? When it comes to like,
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  Speaker 6: I'm not worried about twenty four other teams in the
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  Speaker 6: top twenty five. That's not the team I'm coaching. So
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  Speaker 6: like I get it, Like why do we have it?
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  Speaker 8: I know especially it has because like head coaches have
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  Speaker 8: more to think about now than they ever have because
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  Speaker 8: they got roster management to deal with. Like when usually
• 10:39
  Speaker 8: back in the day, in the good old days, roster
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  Speaker 8: was your roster. That's the roster you're going with. One
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  Speaker 8: signing day comes in February. That's it now they got
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I don't envy the coaching position these days
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  Speaker 8: in college football, So they especially don't have an extra
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  Speaker 8: an hour to go sit down and really think about
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  Speaker 8: the South Florida. If they're gonna be in the winter,
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  Speaker 8: they can be eighteen or nineteen in my pole, they don't.
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  Speaker 8: They don't have that time.
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  Speaker 4: So and too the like for them, like they hadn't
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  Speaker 4: if you're not playing South Florida or you hadn't played
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  Speaker 4: a team that you know played them and you just
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  Speaker 4: so happen to see their tape, Like you're not gonna
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  Speaker 4: go watch South Florida.
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  Speaker 6: If you're you know, in the Big ten and it
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  Speaker 6: doesn't matter to your bottom line.
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  Speaker 8: That's I mean, that's a good point. But how many
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  Speaker 8: AP people are actually going to watch film of everybody either?
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  Speaker 6: I was just about to say, like the AP is
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  Speaker 6: made up of different people across the country, like it does.
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  Speaker 6: There need to be another pot, be in another pole
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  Speaker 6: where it's just like national media members.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, like my process for getting ready for this
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  Speaker 6: show is different than my process getting ready for off campus.
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  Speaker 6: For this show, I'm gonna be lsu certainly like heavy
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  Speaker 6: and then SEC is gonna fill up the rest of it.
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  Speaker 6: For the other one, I gotta talk about Luke altmar
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  Speaker 6: in Illinois, all right, I gotta talk about Sawyer Robinson
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  Speaker 6: and Baylor.
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  Speaker 4: Right, I gotta talk about Dan Mullen and what.
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  Speaker 6: He's doing at UNLB because it's every team, every conference,
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  Speaker 6: so it's a different process. So whatever, like, whatever the
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  Speaker 6: process is, like, just make sure that you're giving it
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  Speaker 6: the respect that it deserves.
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  Speaker 8: I didn't agree with her on one thing, though I
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  Speaker 8: agree with her on one thing. At the end of
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  Speaker 8: the day, as former like players and his players, polls
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  Speaker 8: don't matter at all. But for doing stuff like this
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  Speaker 8: talking about he does create drama, which is football while
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  Speaker 8: it's creates drama, gives good talking points, gives something for
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  Speaker 8: people to get upset about, get happy about, false sense
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  Speaker 8: of security, and it gives us something to argue about.
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  Speaker 2: It's great.
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  Speaker 8: That's why Sports and Football Season it's the best reality
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  Speaker 8: TV show out there.
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  Speaker 2: Drama.
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  Speaker 8: Hey, speaking of drama, Taylor, do you watch finished the
• 13:00
  Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboy documentary?
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  Speaker 2: No? I finished it last night. Was it was actually
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  Speaker 2: pretty good?
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  Speaker 8: I actually kind of almost brought a tear to my Okay,
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  Speaker 8: I don't believe. Well, I mean, I grew that was
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  Speaker 8: the team I grew up with watching, and you know, but.
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  Speaker 3: What you're saying is we've both moved on.
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  Speaker 8: I moved on, like I made a lot better life
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  Speaker 8: decisions when I moved on than you did. I thought, honestly,
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  Speaker 8: for the for the last three three and a half months,
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  Speaker 8: I thought you're a pretty smart guy. Now I just
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  Speaker 8: realize you're dumb.
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  Speaker 7: I will say, it took you a lot longer than
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  Speaker 7: most people, So I do appreciate fair.
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  Speaker 8: Fair Do you appreciate that? That was the perfect response, the
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  Speaker 8: only response.
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  Speaker 2: So great job.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would recommend it. It was very good.
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  Speaker 8: It was like the first episodes a little nauseating because
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  Speaker 8: it's like Jerry talking about like how much he loves himself.
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  Speaker 2: But after you get past that part watched I watched
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  Speaker 2: the first one. After you get.
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  Speaker 8: Past that part, it's it's pretty it's pretty good. I've
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  Speaker 8: watched anything get into more like personalities of like the
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  Speaker 8: players and the coaches, and the coaches, drama between like
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  Speaker 8: Jimmy Johnson, and then when Barry Switzer came on board,
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  Speaker 8: there was drama between him and Troy Yikman.
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  Speaker 2: I never knew about.
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  Speaker 8: But yeah, did not like Barry Switzer, tell you what
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  Speaker 8: not a fan for, Like the amount of attention that
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  Speaker 8: like concussions got for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Troy Aikman had a lot of concussions and he still is.
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  Speaker 2: He just threw the balls with the one in the middle.
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  Speaker 2: O in the middle.
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  Speaker 4: There's three of them, just picked the one in the middle.
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  Speaker 2: The good lord. Football used to be a different game
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  Speaker 2: of this.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, good lord.
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  Speaker 6: I mean even when we first got like into it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 6: you can have a five man wedge on kickoff return. Cool,
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  Speaker 6: let's go hit that. Here comes the l five? Where
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  Speaker 6: am I Taylor?
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  Speaker 2: Great? All right?
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  Speaker 4: Are you? Are you dealing with? Is water wet?
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  Speaker 2: We're ready?
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  Speaker 6: Like when we call those We got doctor Stevens set
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  Speaker 6: to join us. A lot of a lot of injuries,
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  Speaker 6: lots of injuries to talk about, to discuss and try
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  Speaker 6: to get a timeline on maybe what.
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  Speaker 4: That rehab process looks like.
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  Speaker 6: I also want to go around some of the other
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  Speaker 6: games in the Southeastern Conference as we start conference play.
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  Speaker 6: I know we have one last week with ole Miss
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  Speaker 6: and Kentucky, but everybody going to start getting going here
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  Speaker 6: and want to break them all down, so we've got
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  Speaker 12: Off the Bench, all right, welcome back in OTB.
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  Speaker 4: I love Wednesday a fifteen. So our guy, doctor Stephen
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  Speaker 4: Etheridge joins us again. Doc. How we doing, how we living?
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Doing great?
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  Speaker 4: Doing great?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 6: So, unfortunately, we've got a long list of injuries to
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: go over when it comes to teams that we care about.
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: But I want to start with the New Orleans Saints
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: because one of their star safeties had a labroom tear,
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: and you know, we kind of talked about a little bit,
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: but I wanted to wait to get you in because
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: I had a labroom tear and kept playing. But it
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: was in December, and it's like, okay, well we got
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: a bye week and then we had the playoffs and
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: it's like we'll worry about that later. But it was December,
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: so it's like we're not going to have that many
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: games left, like we're in the playoffs.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: But the most we can have four or five.
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: What's the difference like if you have a labrum tear
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: like early in the season, certainly when you play a
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: physical position where you're gonna be using your shoulder, and
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: how how different can the severity may be of a
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: laborm tear bee.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, we started talking about laborl injuries. It it is
• 18:10
  Speaker 13: a can of worms here. You have you have two
• 18:12
  Speaker 13: joints in the buy that have a laborum, the hip
• 18:14
  Speaker 13: and the shoulders. If your two ball and socket joints,
• 18:16
  Speaker 13: and we're talking about a shoulder here, and the laborum
• 18:19
  Speaker 13: and the shoulder mostly adds stability to the shoulder, so
• 18:22
  Speaker 13: it's something that doesn't necessarily work for strength and motion
• 18:25
  Speaker 13: as much as its stability. So it's inside the shoulder,
• 18:27
  Speaker 13: between the ball and the socket. It sort of adds
• 18:29
  Speaker 13: this cartilage cup that sort of adds support.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Around the shoulder.
• 18:33
  Speaker 13: And the interesting with laborams is it's it's like I said,
• 18:36
  Speaker 13: it's opened this big, big, big can of worms here
• 18:38
  Speaker 13: because a lot of labor injuries with even alone completely
• 18:41
  Speaker 13: for what's worth, I actually tore both the.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Mine and my shoulders. I never mind fixed.
• 18:45
  Speaker 13: Yeah, my left eye didn't, my right when I did,
• 18:47
  Speaker 13: my right shoulder was very unstable. It keeps sliding out
• 18:49
  Speaker 13: on me, popping out of socket, and depending on how
• 18:52
  Speaker 13: stable the joint is. You know, we see it in
• 18:53
  Speaker 13: pictures all the time, a picture because of the repetitive use.
• 18:56
  Speaker 13: They'll they'll use the tear their labor Yeah, and in
• 18:58
  Speaker 13: that scenario we usual leave it at unless it's giving
• 19:01
  Speaker 13: them a problem. So that's when it gets really tough.
• 19:03
  Speaker 13: But then, on the other hand, like you said, if
• 19:04
  Speaker 13: it's earlier in the year, and we keep dislocating this shoulder,
• 19:07
  Speaker 13: even just subluxing it, which is like a partial dislocation.
• 19:10
  Speaker 13: So if we keep doing that, you're gonna slowly kind
• 19:13
  Speaker 13: of stretch that ligament out more. You're gonna stretch the
• 19:15
  Speaker 13: laborm out more, maybe tear it worse, stretch the joint
• 19:18
  Speaker 13: capsule out, and sometimes you even start seeing bone laws.
• 19:20
  Speaker 13: You know, you have the the socket and the ball,
• 19:22
  Speaker 13: and if you start rubbing those together so much that
• 19:24
  Speaker 13: bone starts to erode, and then that's a much more
• 19:27
  Speaker 13: difficult fix. So is it something that you can usually
• 19:29
  Speaker 13: play with?
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Sure?
• 19:31
  Speaker 13: Is it something that you should always play with? Probably not,
• 19:34
  Speaker 13: But then there are times it's fine. If you're stable.
• 19:36
  Speaker 13: If you're stable and you're not popping out of socket,
• 19:38
  Speaker 13: and it's just something that over time kind of wore
• 19:40
  Speaker 13: down on you. You you know again, like I said, I've
• 19:41
  Speaker 13: got one and my left shoulder and it never bothers me.
• 19:44
  Speaker 13: You know, I can't remember the last time and knock
• 19:46
  Speaker 13: on wood, it gave me any issues.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: You can go home and you be like it's coming.
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: Had a lot of push ups in studio at breaks
• 19:56
  Speaker 8: and my shoulders hurt. Now, is that is that two
• 19:59
  Speaker 8: torn labor? Probably No, it's just you're forty dropped the ladder. Yeah.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: I think that's probably more the case there.
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: So we okay, So when you have a labor them obviously,
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: like if you're gonna miss time, it's probably because you
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: have the situation you're talking about where you can't really
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: keep the shoulder in. And I think, I don't know
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: if you've been through that. I know you and I
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: have the positions we play, we've been through that before.
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: And it's not like putting your shoulder back in. It's
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: not fun.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: And like after you do it like.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: Two or three times, you're like, all right, this, I
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: need to find a solution for this.
• 20:27
  Speaker 13: Yeah, And it's it's usually know, if we have a
• 20:29
  Speaker 13: guy that has this injury, you know, it's there's there's
• 20:31
  Speaker 13: a lot that goes into it.
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 20:32
  Speaker 13: One of these themes that probably will come up almost
• 20:34
  Speaker 13: every time we talk about these is severity. You know,
• 20:36
  Speaker 13: we'll look at the guy, we'll do our physical exam,
• 20:38
  Speaker 13: we'll talk to them, you know, we'll get the MRIs,
• 20:39
  Speaker 13: we'll get the information, and then you have that discussion
• 20:41
  Speaker 13: and it's it's really a shared decision making where right,
• 20:45
  Speaker 13: you know, there's injuries where we're gonna tell a guy, look,
• 20:46
  Speaker 13: you can't play with this. This is you know, you
• 20:48
  Speaker 13: tear your A c L. I don't want you to
• 20:49
  Speaker 13: destroy your kneed. Yeah, there's other injuries where it's like.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: Don't pull the Philip Rivers and play in the AFC
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: Championship game with no A c L.
• 20:55
  Speaker 13: Yeah, not a good idea, not a good idea. But
• 20:57
  Speaker 13: but then even there, you know, it's AFC Championship. How
• 20:59
  Speaker 13: many of those do you get to? And we do
• 21:00
  Speaker 13: have those discussions there and as much as health and
• 21:03
  Speaker 13: safety always come first, there's an injury line that we
• 21:07
  Speaker 13: sometimes are willing to cross. Right, it's a championship week
• 21:09
  Speaker 13: championship game. Maybe I'm gonna play with something. And being
• 21:12
  Speaker 13: a foreign player, I look at it that way as well,
• 21:14
  Speaker 13: and I think that's what some of that is helpful.
• 21:15
  Speaker 13: I'm like, look, I get it. I want to play. Yeah,
• 21:17
  Speaker 13: And there's times you gotta tell a guy, man, no,
• 21:19
  Speaker 13: you can't play with this. It's it's it's all relative.
• 21:21
  Speaker 13: So so there's a lot that goes into it. But
• 21:23
  Speaker 13: we talk to the guys, we look at the exams,
• 21:25
  Speaker 13: we do all that, and then and then we talk
• 21:26
  Speaker 13: about it.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: We say what do you want to do? What is safe?
• 21:29
  Speaker 13: We give them the risk, and then we make that decision.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Doc.
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: When when it comes to like muscle tears, muscle injuries,
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: if the decision is made for the for the player
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: to play through the pain and make that decision too.
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: You know, I got a teared labor, torn labor or whatever,
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna play through it.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Like what is the process?
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: Is the process different between trying to ease that pain
• 21:52
  Speaker 8: and making it more comfortable for that player than it is?
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: That's something more.
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: Something in a joint or structural like an injury with
• 22:01
  Speaker 8: the bone or something like is that treatment? Because I
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: remember having an ac joint and it was more like
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: cortzone light of cane type numb the pain, Like is
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: that the same with the muscle?
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Can you just numb like that area? Like what's that treatment?
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 22:14
  Speaker 13: Yeah, that's all relative. So it depends on where's the muscle,
• 22:16
  Speaker 13: what is the injury. If if we feel comfortable that
• 22:19
  Speaker 13: whatever the injury is, that you can play with seid
• 22:21
  Speaker 13: injury and not really jeopardize your overall health in your future.
• 22:25
  Speaker 13: If it's an ac joint, sure, if it's something that
• 22:27
  Speaker 13: we can, you know, give you medicine for, it's not
• 22:30
  Speaker 13: gonna affect your cognition. So we're not gonna give you
• 22:32
  Speaker 13: like a pain killer. We're not gonna give you a narcotic.
• 22:33
  Speaker 13: But we might say, yeah, I take some ivprof and
• 22:35
  Speaker 13: we might even do a little light of cane in
• 22:36
  Speaker 13: some areas where we can numb something up, as long
• 22:38
  Speaker 13: as we feel very safe about it, and even that
• 22:39
  Speaker 13: we talked to the athlete, we make sure we're all
• 22:41
  Speaker 13: on the same page. But yeah, there are times when
• 22:43
  Speaker 13: it is pain, and there are certain muscle injuries where
• 22:45
  Speaker 13: that is the case. How severe was the injury, where's
• 22:47
  Speaker 13: the injury located? But if it's a big tear. If
• 22:50
  Speaker 13: it's something that's gonna, like again put you at risk,
• 22:52
  Speaker 13: well then we're not comfortable crossing that line.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: So a lot of talk recently and we actually talked
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: about it last week high ankle springs, and there's a
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: lot of different ankle sprains. When you hear like high
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: ankle sprain, there I say, yeah, why is the high
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: ankle sprain different than a normal ankle sprain.
• 23:10
  Speaker 13: So yeah, when we have ankle sprains, we break them down. Really,
• 23:12
  Speaker 13: there's three areas in the ankle kin sprain. There's a
• 23:14
  Speaker 13: lateral ankle, which is the outside of the ankle, which
• 23:16
  Speaker 13: is the most common. There's the media ankle, which is
• 23:18
  Speaker 13: the inside of the ankle, and then there's the high ankle.
• 23:21
  Speaker 13: A high ankle sprain is when you have an injury
• 23:23
  Speaker 13: of the ligaments that basically attach the lower shin bones,
• 23:25
  Speaker 13: so it's right above the ankle hents high ankle. So
• 23:28
  Speaker 13: the tibia and the fibulary are the two long bones
• 23:30
  Speaker 13: below the knee that go down to the ankle and
• 23:31
  Speaker 13: they form the ankle joint, at least the top portion
• 23:34
  Speaker 13: of it. Well, there are some ligaments to hold those
• 23:36
  Speaker 13: together and if you have a high ankle sprain, it's
• 23:38
  Speaker 13: going to be a sprain to one of those ligaments,
• 23:40
  Speaker 13: and sometimes multiple of those ligaments. So the problem is
• 23:43
  Speaker 13: that's a much more high stress area. The way I
• 23:45
  Speaker 13: think of it is is if you think of the foot,
• 23:48
  Speaker 13: the top of the foot, which is the tallus, is
• 23:49
  Speaker 13: almost like a wedge that pushes up into those two bones.
• 23:52
  Speaker 13: And so it's I think about splitting firewood. You use
• 23:54
  Speaker 13: a wedge to split firewood. If if y'all ever done
• 23:57
  Speaker 13: that out there, and it's and that's kind of what's
• 23:59
  Speaker 13: happened when you have that. You already have a partial
• 24:01
  Speaker 13: strain of those ligaments, and if you're pushing that wedge
• 24:04
  Speaker 13: up into them, it's just a much higher risk injury.
• 24:07
  Speaker 13: It's one that takes longer to heal.
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 24:09
  Speaker 13: The reason we all kind of grown is in general
• 24:11
  Speaker 13: it's a longer healing process than the others. Now, like
• 24:14
  Speaker 13: everything else, that the theme that comes up a lot
• 24:16
  Speaker 13: of severity.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: How severe is it? Is it a mild, is it
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: a moderate? Is it severe?
• 24:19
  Speaker 13: Because sometimes if it's severe, we'll even talk surgery. We
• 24:22
  Speaker 13: talked about the tight ropes and the different procedures. You know,
• 24:25
  Speaker 13: those are things that we sometimes do, and it comes
• 24:27
  Speaker 13: down to that same discussion where it's kind of a
• 24:29
  Speaker 13: shared decision. We look at the exams, but we also
• 24:32
  Speaker 13: really look at the physical exam in addition to the MRI.
• 24:36
  Speaker 13: So we have the MRI, we have the imaging, but
• 24:37
  Speaker 13: then we say, well, look what can you do?
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: And is it a strength? Is it cutting? Is it
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: like bursts?
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Is it all the above?
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: All the above?
• 24:45
  Speaker 13: And honestly, it starts with something as simple as can
• 24:47
  Speaker 13: you raise up on your foot? That's husually the first
• 24:49
  Speaker 13: thing that you want to see. You know, it sounds very,
• 24:51
  Speaker 13: very very elementary, but if a guy can raise up
• 24:54
  Speaker 13: on his toes, most of times, it's not a really
• 24:56
  Speaker 13: bad high ink, right, and we'll see that's probably the
• 24:58
  Speaker 13: first big test I want to see before we even
• 25:00
  Speaker 13: talk about any of the others.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Can you just raise up?
• 25:02
  Speaker 13: And if you can't do that, I'm probably not gonna
• 25:04
  Speaker 13: be that comfortable with putting you anywhere near a field.
• 25:06
  Speaker 13: But if you can, then we moved to the can
• 25:08
  Speaker 13: you push off? Can you come out of the stands?
• 25:09
  Speaker 13: Can you sprint? Can you cut? And if you can
• 25:12
  Speaker 13: do all those things, you know, especially maybe brace you up,
• 25:14
  Speaker 13: we give a little extra support to the ankle and
• 25:15
  Speaker 13: do those things. Then then yeah, that's a guy that
• 25:17
  Speaker 13: will usually play. And if you can't, well we got
• 25:20
  Speaker 13: to see that.
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: Dot talk about the different grades and how y'all judge
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: the severity of a hin ankle, because I remember I
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: had a high ankle sprain from the Virginia Tech which
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: is the second game of the year, and O seven
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: that the entire season is something I fought through. I
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: played with offensive line, right, Yeah, and then relax, everybody,
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: They're strong, they're not fat, They're just big. It was
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: actually explained to me the actually had a crack in
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: one of the like I can't remember for the fiby
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: or the tibia, but like a high ankle spray sometimes
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: is as a fracture of one of the bones. So
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: is that part of the judge just talk talk about
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: the grades?
• 25:56
  Speaker 13: Yeah, so well, typically with grades, you know, it's kind
• 25:58
  Speaker 13: of usually a mild, modern severe, or a one two
• 26:01
  Speaker 13: three in that order. Sometimes you know, you'll hear other
• 26:04
  Speaker 13: injuries where you add some other grading, but most injuries
• 26:07
  Speaker 13: that's kind of how we break it down. And with
• 26:09
  Speaker 13: the high ankle, a mild would be more of just
• 26:11
  Speaker 13: kind of a stretch and irritation, probably only involving one
• 26:14
  Speaker 13: or two of the ligaments. When you get more into
• 26:15
  Speaker 13: the moderate, there's probably some partial tearing with those injuries.
• 26:19
  Speaker 13: Usually it's gonna be more than one of those ligaments.
• 26:21
  Speaker 13: And then a severe is usually going to be a
• 26:22
  Speaker 13: complete tear where you even have some instability. Usually you're
• 26:24
  Speaker 13: gonna see some widening of the gap between those two bones.
• 26:27
  Speaker 13: Those are the ones who are almost always gonna fix.
• 26:30
  Speaker 13: And then yes, sometimes there is a fracture component of
• 26:32
  Speaker 13: all with it. You know, just because you have a
• 26:34
  Speaker 13: sprain or strain doesn't mean you don't have a fracture
• 26:36
  Speaker 13: and vice versa.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we look at all of that.
• 26:38
  Speaker 13: If it's a very unstable injury with the fracture with
• 26:41
  Speaker 13: a lot of tearing, you know, that's that's something we
• 26:43
  Speaker 13: probably fix. If it's a smaller injury, if we feel
• 26:46
  Speaker 13: like we can stabilize it, if we feel like you
• 26:48
  Speaker 13: can do the things you have to do, if we
• 26:49
  Speaker 13: can see that from you, then then that's one that
• 26:51
  Speaker 13: again we'll get.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: You out there and we'll work with it.
• 26:54
  Speaker 13: To your point, it's something that probably is not gonna heal,
• 26:57
  Speaker 13: you know, throughout the year This is usually even the
• 26:59
  Speaker 13: mild ones, you're probably still gonna feel it. I mean,
• 27:01
  Speaker 13: even week one, you get to the end of the year,
• 27:03
  Speaker 13: if we are playing on it, you're still gonna feel.
• 27:05
  Speaker 13: It's gonna get better, but you're still gonna feel it's
• 27:07
  Speaker 13: not gonna go away really until we let it heel.
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they there there. Did you have one high ankle sprain?
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: No fast, They're brutal, man. They like if I just
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: remember feeling unstable and every time I pushed off, it
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: just hurt.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: It just hurt.
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: Really, I mean it was it was like it there's
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: a different pain than I'd ever felt.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: The in the stability part was.
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, all my injuries were knee related for the most part.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: It's like how many times you get a helmet to
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: the knee and it goes the other way. It's like, oh,
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: you got a spray. It's like, okay, what does a
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: knee sprain? I don't really know what that means.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like it feels like there's nothing in there right now.
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: Just feels terrible. It just feels like it feels I
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: don't know, dog, it feels worse than a sprain. Do
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: you want to check it again?
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Uh? So?
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: It's great, like the meniscus. Are we going up in
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: the numbers. So grade one's mild or grade one is
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: like severe.
• 27:52
  Speaker 13: So that's common situation, right, So the smaller the number
• 27:54
  Speaker 13: of the the less severe.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: All right, so grade one is mind like.
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: My right ankle, I still have a pocket of swim
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: only on top of my ankle.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: From that injury.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Hey, you can get the exam later, but I check
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: it out with the clinic.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, I got this spot.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean okay, is that the same for everything?
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: So like we're talking about high ankle sprain, Like I've
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: talked about knee sprains. I certainly had plenty of those
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: where I'd get a helmet on it and be like, okay,
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: well is that tormniscus because I know what that feels like.
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: Sure feels like the No, it's just a knee sprain.
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: So like severity situation same in.
• 28:26
  Speaker 13: The knee tip typically it is. Yes, you know, there's
• 28:28
  Speaker 13: every joint's gonna be a little bit different. Everything's gonna
• 28:30
  Speaker 13: be a little different. But again, I think the first
• 28:32
  Speaker 13: thing we talk about with any injuries house severe. So
• 28:34
  Speaker 13: you know if you have you have a knee sprain, well,
• 28:36
  Speaker 13: which ligament. Is it that does back if we're talking
• 28:38
  Speaker 13: about one ligament versus another. And then then we start
• 28:41
  Speaker 13: talking severity. Is it a mild injury?
• 28:43
  Speaker 9: Is it?
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Is it moderate? Is it severe?
• 28:45
  Speaker 13: And and sometimes you know, even if it's pretty snick
• 28:47
  Speaker 13: in injury, it may not be surgical. Other times and
• 28:49
  Speaker 13: more mild, you know, a small tear in the meniscus
• 28:51
  Speaker 13: is probably something we're gonna have to address, right, So
• 28:54
  Speaker 13: it's it's all kind of relative.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: I uh, yeahsh I don't even know if I have
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: any meniscus.
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: Like, yeah, what is O about it? Had felt the
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: niska yea? Had the old microfracture surgery? Cand you explain?
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: Can you explain that one to our listeners, because that's
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: try to explain it sometimes and I don't think I
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: do a good job.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So so microfracture.
• 29:13
  Speaker 13: So there's basically when we talk about the knee, you
• 29:15
  Speaker 13: have the condril cartilage, which is the cartilage that covers
• 29:18
  Speaker 13: the bone. So and each the two bones that form
• 29:19
  Speaker 13: the knee, the tibia and the femur, there's some cartilage
• 29:22
  Speaker 13: that covers those bones that's condril cartilage. And when you
• 29:24
  Speaker 13: get a defect in that, that typically doesn't heal that well.
• 29:27
  Speaker 13: So if you get a little divid or a pop
• 29:29
  Speaker 13: mark or something like that, you're gonna have to do
• 29:30
  Speaker 13: something with it. Usually now, all things relative, the body
• 29:33
  Speaker 13: can compensate, but if if we're going to try and
• 29:35
  Speaker 13: do something with it, you know, one of the procedures
• 29:38
  Speaker 13: that that's been commonly done is a microfracture, where we
• 29:40
  Speaker 13: literally drilled little abd holes into the bone under it.
• 29:43
  Speaker 13: And what you're hoping by doing that is that you
• 29:45
  Speaker 13: stimulate the body. You maybe even get in the bone
• 29:47
  Speaker 13: marrow a little bit, You release some of the bone
• 29:49
  Speaker 13: marre of some of the stem cells, some of there
• 29:50
  Speaker 13: are things that help heal recover, and the hope is
• 29:52
  Speaker 13: that some of that cartilage heals. It's not a perfect fix, yeah,
• 29:55
  Speaker 13: and that's one thing that we're still fall a little
• 29:57
  Speaker 13: bit short of, is the perfect fix for cartilage injuries.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: That's why they can be a real bear.
• 30:01
  Speaker 13: But if you make what's there a little bit healthier,
• 30:03
  Speaker 13: if you can make it a little bit thicker, if
• 30:04
  Speaker 13: you can get some degree of recovery there, well that's
• 30:06
  Speaker 13: better than nothing. And that's kind of the idea with
• 30:08
  Speaker 13: the microfracture.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was fun. It's fun to come back from.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: I didn't know the rehab was going to be quite
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: what it was.
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: Off of that, I was thinking, Oh, it's going to
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: be a miniscus and I've had a meniscus surgery.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: Em played like eight days later. It's gonna be fine.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: It was not that.
• 30:21
  Speaker 13: It's a little different, well, in part because you gotta
• 30:23
  Speaker 13: let it heal. You know, you're you're you're drilling those
• 30:24
  Speaker 13: little bit holes. You gotta let it try to heal.
• 30:26
  Speaker 13: At least that's gonna do that. They don't always.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: They didn't do that. Didn't do that.
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: All right there, doctor stephn Ather, it's good enough to
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: join us every single week here on OTB break down
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: some of the injuries across the sports world.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: Doc, we appreciate it as always, sir, Oh, it's my pleasure.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: We'll take a break more OTB when we come back.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: On the other side, off the bench, from players to legends,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Hester and Flynn breakdown L s U football like only
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: champions can.
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: On the perfect day. I know that I can't go.
• 31:33
  Speaker 9: That's not possible.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Are you laughing at him?
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: There? Uh, chat.
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: Man, I can't believe that were getting I was trying
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: to get a free examine here.
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: Do you want to throw your ankle up on the
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to avoid those code pays, my god, Like, hey.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: So like, got doc in here. I want to get
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: a little check, just like.
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: If you sprain your ankle in two thousand and seven,
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: eighteen years ago, and you should have got a little
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: pocket of fluid there.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying.
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: I was just making mention of it because I always
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: think it's hypothetically I got two injuries that like, I
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: still have things from it. It's like a gift from
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: the football gods. I take pride in that little pocket.
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: And song I was trying to brag.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: You also did ask if you had two to warn labrams.
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, true, trying to get that I might push ups today.
• 32:28
  Speaker 8: He might send you a bill, he might send me bo.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: He got an opportunity to avoid some capes. You're gonna
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: take advantage of it.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: No, I think we should take turns. Like every week
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: he comes in, we each ask him about an issue
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: we have.
• 32:39
  Speaker 8: Yep, Doc, I got this new mole, so should I.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: It's not a dermatologist, sure, he's an orthopedic.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: This is a side of.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Aging or is just like a problem like whatever, I
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: don't hear that right, you know.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: So this screw in my head? Uh huh am, I
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: gonna have to get it replaced at some point.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: We should on air checkups.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Not screwing my head, but I feel like it's a
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: little rusty. What are your thoughts.
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: I do find it fascinating, like all the different grades
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: of sprains and stuff, because I don't know, like when
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: I hear sprain, I'm like, Okay, well that means I'm playing.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: That means I'm good. But not every positions the same
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: to you know what I mean?
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: And I never had I said, I never had a
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: high ankle, and I've always heard like if you have
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: a sprain, that's the worst one that you can have,
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: and all jokes is like you've been through that. You
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: had giant ankle braces. Giant, I mean you really did,
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: Like you had those big.
• 33:32
  Speaker 8: One side of them was pretty narrow because my ankles
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: are very shapely, but the outside was thickum.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: But seriously, like what I don't I've never been do that.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: I had knees sprains.
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: But it's like, hey, sorry, Bud, go out, Like I
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: don't really know about that.
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: It's kind of like what we talked about the other
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: couple of weeks ago turf Town, like that doesn't sound
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: bad either.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, all sprains are not created equal, that's for sure.
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: That when I had that high ankle, but give me
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: two three tight ripes.
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: I mean it was Middle Tennessee that you missed, right,
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: you know, seven and then you came back. You sitting
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: in South Carolina.
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: But if you remember, like part of our offense was
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: me running a decent you ran. You had one hundred
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: attempts that year. Yeah, and it was like it was
• 34:19
  Speaker 8: with the big old ankle brace and literally offensive lineman
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: shoes for multiple games.
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: When you say offensive lineman shoes. Yeah, you had Timberland
• 34:27
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• 34:28
  Speaker 8: Old shark bottoms, not the fat kids, the two for
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: ones that academy. For sure, did you go did you
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: have to go like to the the local I'm going
• 34:47
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• 34:49
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• 34:53
  Speaker 8: only one that that big brace that they had, which
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: at that time was like state of the art technology
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: that was brace wise. I remember Maricchi had found that brace.
• 35:02
  Speaker 8: I'm got making these braces and only a couple people
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: had had it.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: And.
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know what a state of art
• 35:10
  Speaker 8: about it. It just looked like a piece of plastic. Yeah,
• 35:13
  Speaker 8: it's brutal.
• 35:15
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• 35:18
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• 35:24
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• 35:35
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• 35:37
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• 35:42
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, from the locker room to the airwaves. Gets off
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  Speaker 1: the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Maybe I just don't get it. Do you
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: enjoy being hurt?
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: I know you smell the perfume, the makeup of the shirt.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: You don't believe his stories.
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  Speaker 4: I just want to show you you are Are you
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  Speaker 4: working back? It is off the bench?
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: Did we have you unplugged so we don't even have
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: a do we have your ankles?
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: You're giant cleats. Wait, why'd you unplug in the first place.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: That's why we took a break, like on time.
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  Speaker 3: My god, I mean it's connected. I'm waiting to pull up.
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• 39:40
  Speaker 4: What are you doing? You mean we we said that's
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  Speaker 2: I didn't.
• 39:48
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• 39:52
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• 39:55
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my ankles, look you good. That's exactly right. All right?
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