Latest / Arroe Collins Like It's Live / Celebrating 30 Years Of Rock n Roll Fantasies David Fishof From RnR Fantasy Camp
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- 0:34Speaker 2: Hello, Wow, there's only one Monday where I live.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Good morning, David. How are you doing today with only
- 0:42Speaker 1: one Monday where you live?
- 0:44Speaker 2: I'm doing great, doing great. Yeah, I'm doing great.
- 0:47Speaker 3: Hey, I gotta tell you something.
- 0:48Speaker 2: I'm great. Thanks having well.
- 0:49Speaker 1: I want to start with a podcast because I want
- 0:51Speaker 1: listeners to go there. I want them to get into
- 0:54Speaker 1: the extension of everything that you guys are doing, and
- 0:57Speaker 1: it makes it so much more believable and understandable, and
- 1:02Speaker 1: you don't feel alone with these rock and roll dreams
- 1:04Speaker 1: inside our hearts.
- 1:07Speaker 2: It is it's incredible.
- 1:09Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's you know, you're talking about having
- 1:12Speaker 4: that once in a lifetime opportunity to jam with Roger Dalty,
- 1:15Speaker 4: the who.
- 1:16Speaker 2: With Tommy Lee. I mean, you know these.
- 1:21Speaker 4: Fifty percent of the campers returned because they're never going
- 1:23Speaker 4: to find this fantasy. Roger Dalty said, the lied to
- 1:27Speaker 4: me one day, says, all your campers, they're in the
- 1:29Speaker 4: front rows of my show. I said, Roger. Once they
- 1:33Speaker 4: jam with you, they can't sit ten rows back. They
- 1:35Speaker 4: want to be on the stage. They think they could
- 1:37Speaker 4: be on the stage with you. So it doesn't get
- 1:40Speaker 4: it doesn't get better than this excited if having done
- 1:44Speaker 4: this for thirty years, I may I continue to do
- 1:46Speaker 4: thirty more years, and it's really for me. I still
- 1:50Speaker 4: have the passion to produce these camps, so it really
- 1:54Speaker 4: gets me. The enthusiasm of the campers is just incredible.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Well, it's got to be exciting for you in the
- 2:00Speaker 1: way that when you sit in a room with all
- 2:02Speaker 1: of these campers and everybody has a dream of who
- 2:05Speaker 1: they want to create with. Like, for instance, I went
- 2:07Speaker 1: crazy with John five. I'm going, how how did he
- 2:11Speaker 1: hook up with someone like John five?
- 2:13Speaker 3: Come on, dude.
- 2:16Speaker 4: And it's amazing because he's done like camp many times before.
- 2:19Speaker 4: He was with Motley Crue, And now you're gonna be
- 2:22Speaker 4: able to play with Tommy Lee and John five together. Girls, girls, girls,
- 2:27Speaker 4: you know, I mean, I mean, how amazing would that
- 2:29Speaker 4: be that you get to play with half of Motley Crue.
- 2:34Speaker 2: So you know, but it only works, you know, it
- 2:37Speaker 2: only works.
- 2:38Speaker 4: Because during this the thirty years, it's because his rock
- 2:41Speaker 4: stars enjoy it. You know.
- 2:42Speaker 2: It's not a it's not a gig for them.
- 2:44Speaker 1: So does someone like Stuart Copland, does it take them
- 2:47Speaker 1: back to their garage Bandazze to be in a moment
- 2:50Speaker 1: like this, because I mean it to me, it's raw form.
- 2:52Speaker 1: Or even like Chryl Crowe who said that she jammed
- 2:55Speaker 1: out all the time and she just happened to find fame.
- 2:57Speaker 1: But it's all about the jam. That's where music is.
- 3:02Speaker 4: It's all about the jam. It's all about meeting but
- 3:06Speaker 4: having like minded people.
- 3:08Speaker 2: You know.
- 3:08Speaker 4: Jerry Cantrell, he comes to camp. I said, Jerry, I
- 3:11Speaker 4: got fruit fee in the green room. He says, no, David,
- 3:13Speaker 4: he said, I want to sit here with these people.
- 3:15Speaker 4: This was me, you know, for Roger Doltry he says
- 3:18Speaker 4: in the movie, he says to.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Me all the time. He says, I was.
- 3:21Speaker 4: Like them, I just made it, you know, So I
- 3:24Speaker 4: think that for the musicians, it's really an opportunity to
- 3:29Speaker 4: to get back to meet their fans in a different way.
- 3:32Speaker 4: To meet musicians reminds them what was like when they
- 3:35Speaker 4: first started. Jeans Simmons said it best, and he said,
- 3:38Speaker 4: I wish I would have had a camp. I guess
- 3:40Speaker 4: fifty years ago. I would have made as many mistakes.
- 3:42Speaker 4: I would have met the right people. So you know,
- 3:45Speaker 4: you know, that's what's incredible that you know, while I'm
- 3:47Speaker 4: doing this for thirty years, it's not me.
- 3:50Speaker 2: Yes, I've had to get them the first time, but when.
- 3:52Speaker 4: They come back over and over again, there's something here
- 3:56Speaker 4: that they're getting out of it as much as the
- 4:00Speaker 4: the musician that's there. You know, at the last camp,
- 4:04Speaker 4: I turned to him and I said, you've showed up
- 4:06Speaker 4: for four days here at rock Camp.
- 4:09Speaker 2: You're only supposed to come for one day.
- 4:10Speaker 4: And Jim with him and he says, he says to me, David,
- 4:13Speaker 4: he said, when I do gigs, I'm with musicians all
- 4:16Speaker 4: day and they're complaining and they're bitching, and and whether
- 4:21Speaker 4: I'm in a recording studio, whether or I'm on tour,
- 4:23Speaker 4: he says, you come here and you see the smile
- 4:26Speaker 4: in these people's faces.
- 4:28Speaker 3: You know.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Rudy Sarzow, he says in our movie, he says he got.
- 4:31Speaker 4: He reignited his love for playing bass at Rock and
- 4:34Speaker 4: Roll Fantasy Camp Soviet. There's something at these camps that
- 4:37Speaker 4: these musicians are getting that they you know, that they're enjoying.
- 4:43Speaker 4: So if they wouldn't keep coming back, I wouldn't be
- 4:46Speaker 4: in business.
- 4:47Speaker 3: Please do not move. We'll be right back with David
- 4:49Speaker 3: Fishoff from the Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp. Coming up next,
- 4:54Speaker 3: the Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp. We are back with
- 4:56Speaker 3: David fish Office they celebrate their thirtieth anniversary. I'll tell
- 5:00Speaker 3: you one thing that I'm very excited about is what's
- 5:02Speaker 3: going to happen with Steve Morris of Deep Purple. Because
- 5:04Speaker 3: we're in a generational time period right now where everybody
- 5:07Speaker 3: all the way down to generation alpha and beta, they
- 5:10Speaker 3: love all forms of music, and someone like Steve Morris,
- 5:14Speaker 3: Oh my god, can you imagine sitting down with this
- 5:17Speaker 3: guy when most of them know the music, but they
- 5:19Speaker 3: don't know the person.
- 5:22Speaker 2: I don't know the person. He's an incredible human being.
- 5:25Speaker 4: You know, the Dixie Dregs, the all the hits that
- 5:27Speaker 4: he's been involved in and he's such a giving person
- 5:30Speaker 4: and he gets it, does a masterclass and he stays
- 5:33Speaker 4: for hours and days to really work with the guitarists.
- 5:37Speaker 4: He's a passion that he has and by the way,
- 5:40Speaker 4: they all have the passion. You know that this is
- 5:42Speaker 4: the success of these rock stars. They you know, I
- 5:44Speaker 4: love the line that they that's what said. They get
- 5:47Speaker 4: paid to travel. They performed for free. You know, So
- 5:51Speaker 4: when you when you get a guy like Slash, you
- 5:53Speaker 4: came to my camp and stayed for twelve hours, but
- 5:55Speaker 4: he should have only stayed for two three hours. He's
- 5:58Speaker 4: doing it because he loves to play guitar. And I
- 6:01Speaker 4: think the same thing with Roger Daldry. You know, he
- 6:04Speaker 4: finds a lot of there's something he walks away with
- 6:08Speaker 4: a great feeling. Joe Perry said to a guy one day,
- 6:12Speaker 4: he said, what do you do for a living? And
- 6:13Speaker 4: the guy said, I'm a guitar is He said, I'm
- 6:15Speaker 4: a lawyer. Weekends I play guitar. And he says to them,
- 6:19Speaker 4: you're full of crap. He says, you're a guitarist first,
- 6:21Speaker 4: and that's what these people are. So whether they've been
- 6:24Speaker 4: playing in a high school band or a college band,
- 6:27Speaker 4: and you know, they never got rid of being a musician.
- 6:31Speaker 4: And then with COVID that was the biggest turnaround for
- 6:34Speaker 4: me when you when people started picking up guitars and
- 6:38Speaker 4: more women are getting into you know, the athletes bands.
- 6:41Speaker 4: They have women in these bands. You know, whether it's
- 6:44Speaker 4: I don't know, Alice Cooper's traveling.
- 6:46Speaker 2: With Nita Straussy.
- 6:49Speaker 4: You know, Sophie Lloyd, what an amazing guitar player she's
- 6:54Speaker 4: doing with MGK.
- 6:56Speaker 2: You know that that.
- 6:58Speaker 4: So many women now are getting into the the you know,
- 7:01Speaker 4: being a part of these bands and joining them. And
- 7:04Speaker 4: so it's Philly been opening up and I love it.
- 7:07Speaker 4: I love the beginner. I love the intermediary and the
- 7:11Speaker 4: advanced physician. They come to camp, they get put in
- 7:14Speaker 4: the band, and they do four days of ten hours
- 7:17Speaker 4: a day just rocking out.
- 7:18Speaker 1: See, I'm so jealous of you with this rock camp.
- 7:20Speaker 1: And the reason why is because I grew up in
- 7:22Speaker 1: the days when everybody opened up their front door and
- 7:25Speaker 1: we heard them practicing the guitar. Nowadays they've got earbuds
- 7:28Speaker 1: and earphones, and we don't get to hear them practicing.
- 7:31Speaker 1: I want to hear them screw up I want to
- 7:33Speaker 1: hear them dream I want to hear everything, and you're
- 7:36Speaker 1: right there where you get to see it happen.
- 7:38Speaker 4: Dude, Well, you know that's so true. I remember Joe
- 7:41Speaker 4: Wolfs said to a camp or a guy messed up.
- 7:44Speaker 4: He says, listen, we all mess up. So that Rob
- 7:46Speaker 4: Halfer says, we mess up. Just keep going, you know,
- 7:50Speaker 4: keep going. It's you know, we also make mistakes. I
- 7:53Speaker 4: think that's the biggest thing I learned the Camp that
- 7:56Speaker 4: you know, you've got to practice every day for hours.
- 7:59Speaker 4: That's what the that's what makes these guys pros. Joe
- 8:02Speaker 4: Walls plays that guitar five hours a day, and and
- 8:05Speaker 4: you know they don't just get up on stage, and
- 8:09Speaker 4: and you know.
- 8:09Speaker 2: You see how much work goes into being a.
- 8:11Speaker 4: Successful musician and the passionate it gives people to And
- 8:16Speaker 4: one thing I learned to Camp, when you play with
- 8:19Speaker 4: musicians that are better than you, you get better.
- 8:22Speaker 2: So I think that's really one of the biggest lessons
- 8:24Speaker 2: I've learned.
- 8:25Speaker 1: I would love to sit down with a conversation with
- 8:27Speaker 1: Roger Daltrey, and the reason why is because I believe
- 8:29Speaker 1: that he is the master of listening to sound beyond sound,
- 8:34Speaker 1: because when you're with Pete Townsend, you've got to be
- 8:36Speaker 1: able to hear what Pete is doing, and you've got
- 8:38Speaker 1: to come up with a vibe, a celebration of words,
- 8:41Speaker 1: writing and everything. And I think that that Roger Daltrey
- 8:44Speaker 1: is that guy that hears that sound beyond sound.
- 8:48Speaker 2: Well, the biggest lesson I've learned also camp. The other
- 8:50Speaker 2: one was Warren Haynes. Oh, and I remember he taught.
- 8:54Speaker 4: He taught everybody that it's about listening. You have to
- 8:58Speaker 4: listen to hear what everybody's playing. And you're right, you know.
- 9:02Speaker 4: For Roger to be able to interpret his songs and
- 9:06Speaker 4: to interpret.
- 9:07Speaker 2: What he's written is incredible. And they're pros, you know.
- 9:12Speaker 4: And but the fact that they love to share with
- 9:15Speaker 4: the with the regular musician and with youngsters and people
- 9:19Speaker 4: of all ages. That's really what's made our camp around
- 9:23Speaker 4: for thirty years. So it's fun, it's a great experience.
- 9:28Speaker 4: It's not a meet and greet, you know, they these
- 9:30Speaker 4: musicians hang with you, they enjoy it. And what happens
- 9:35Speaker 4: is they make their best friends at Rock and Roll
- 9:37Speaker 4: Fantasy Camp.
- 9:38Speaker 2: So whether it's Steven Tyler, buddies with the guy.
- 9:40Speaker 4: And because they met because they have a private plane
- 9:43Speaker 4: or or you know, Sammy Hagar and you know, they
- 9:47Speaker 4: they've been around camp and they they realize that these
- 9:50Speaker 4: musicians and they're successful, sober, very successful business people. They
- 9:55Speaker 4: enjoy men. You know, rock stars we never met. We
- 9:58Speaker 4: never met a rock star, you know, because they're is
- 10:00Speaker 4: running out the door, unlike countries, unlike country stars.
- 10:04Speaker 2: You know, Keith urbans Is. I love my fans. They
- 10:06Speaker 2: come on my bus, they they kissed me and they
- 10:09Speaker 2: love me.
- 10:10Speaker 4: You know, no one meets a rock star be cause
- 10:12Speaker 4: they're traveling at three in the morning.
- 10:14Speaker 1: Wow, you got to come back to this show anytime
- 10:16Speaker 1: in the future, dude. The door is always going to
- 10:18Speaker 1: be open for you.
- 10:20Speaker 2: Well, thank you, my pleasure. I'd love it.
- 10:22Speaker 4: And please tell her to watch our film Rock Camp
- 10:25Speaker 4: if they haven't seen it yet on Amazon Prime. It's
- 10:27Speaker 4: free and it really shows you, you know, the power
- 10:30Speaker 4: of music and the power of Rock Camp.
- 10:32Speaker 3: I love it.
- 10:32Speaker 1: Be brilliant today, Okay, David.
- 10:35Speaker 2: Thank you. I will appreciate it.