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Jeremy Schaeffer: Earth Groans · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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Go right. Today, we've got Jeremy Shaper from Earth Growns with us.
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Jeremy just buy any chance? Do you know what you would call an inexpensive
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or circumcision? Do you have any idea what that would be called? Rip
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off? The rip off? Ask Jeremy how he knows? Personal experience?
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Is that? Is that? What? How you know or what? No,
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that is one place that you should never skimp out on. You got
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the name brand circumcisions? What what is the name brand of a circumcision?
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I don't know. I don't how do they vera? What is? What
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is? Are they still using scalpels? Are they using like scissors? Or
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I haven't you know, it's been thirty five years. I don't, it's
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been a while. It's laser by Do you think so? I guess we're
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yeah, we're probably at that point. AI Do you think do you think
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the name brand is Maynard Keenan's band Perfect Circle? Oh? He sponsors he
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sponsors circumcisions like circumcisions now. Yeah. Yeah, So if any of our
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listeners are having children or thinking about becoming circumcised anytime soon? Yeah, yeah,
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you know we talked to Yes, this is true, but We didn't
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bring you on to the podcast to just talk about sits, although that was
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a main part of it, you know, Yeah, of course that segment
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foremost authority. Yeah, that's right. When I think of circumcisions, I
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think of Jermy Schaffer from her. Is that where you got the groans part
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of the name? Oh yeah, how do you know I'm even circumcised?
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You guys haven't seen you know, you just you've got the org think.
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Yeah, I've definitely seen. I've stood next to you at the YearIn all
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I am Yeah, I'm not. I'm not bashful at all. I'm more
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I'm actually I wouldn't be either. I'm actually more insecure about my my my
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man boobs and my gut than I am of my penis. So I would
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rather take off my pants than take off my shirt. Oh kind of go
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like a poo bear. Yeah for real, though, I don't know,
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I just yeah, it's like since like, since I put on a bunch
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of weight since COVID. Not to flash the sea card again, but like
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I just really like I put on one a lot of way over COVID,
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and I just like have not been able to lose it. I don't know,
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because I'm bad at working out and stuff. So isn't really that important
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though? What haven't I having a fit body? Oh? I don't know.
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I guess if you like want to take your shirt off it if you
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want to feel good about yourself. I suppose I suppose do you have a
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harryest. I don't know. I have Hary. I have Harry nipples that
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have to trim. I have to trim my nipples because they they look like
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spiders. It looks like a creature, like the hairs come out like this
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is that is that? Is that how you got your mustache? You just
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like pasted it on the upper lips like jackass. So yeah, it's it's
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just weird because I'm yeah, I'm really not a hairy person, but my
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nip for whatever reason, to have a crazy that's like the that's gonna be
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like the worst. It's like, all right, if I'm gonna have like
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a whole like if I'm gonna be Harry, I want the whole thing to
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be Harry. And if but I don't, if I'm not gonna be Harry,
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certainly don't make the nipples be the thing that is hairy. Right,
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Yeah, it is really it's just off putting all the way around. What
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did you do to spite God I was born? I don't know. All
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right, Jeremy, let's talk about new Earth Growns music. Obviously that's why
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we actually brought you onto the podcast. But you know, it's been you
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know, I know, like you've kind of been new in the whole like
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EPs kind of you know, singles here and there kind of stuff. But
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there's actually new music coming out that the world should know about. So yeah,
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ustle bit about just kind of where where you're at in that process and
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well, I'm sure we've got other questions about it, but yeah, where
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you're at in the process with new music. Yeah. So we finished our
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contra tracked last year with Solid Say actually, this week is like the one
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year birthday whatever or anniversary of our last record coming out, our last DP,
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tung Ted, So that just came out a year ago this week,
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so party for that. But we have like a couple new just singles because
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I don't know what I'm doing right now, because we have we're We're not
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We're not going to resign. I think we're just gonna like put a couple
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of tracks out independent and kind of see what happens, because the industry is
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in a really weird place where that's the way, like what the thing that
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a lot of bands are doing, especially like not like established bands, Like
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we're not established, so I mean, we've been around for a long time,
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but we're not like a big band yet. So we're just gonna put
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out a couple of singles to see, I guess, keep you know,
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feeding the fans and then maybe see what comes out of that. Like the
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main thing for us right now is just like getting to our opportunities and and
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just getting in front of people again. So we're gonna put out a couple
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of singles and see what happens with that. Sure. So when you say
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like fewer opportunities, do you mean like you want to get on like a
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bigger bill with some other bands or like like yeah, what do you want
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to do specifically? Yeah, I mean for us, like we've we've done
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the dy I think for like eight years at this point, and we can
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continue to do that, you know, to cater to our fans, but
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we don't really grow when we do that. We're only basically just catering to
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our already established fans, which is great and I want to do that for
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them, but I'm getting old. I'm not getting any richer. In fact,
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I'm somehow getting poorer. I'm getting more and more in debt. And
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so if if I want to actually like pay my bills and stuff, like,
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yeah, we need to do like if we're gonna do too, we
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need to do tours that are a little bit more profitable. And then if
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we can do support bands, support tours for with bigger bands, then we
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can be getting in front of their fan base, you know, and then
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growing at a faster rate. Yeah. So yeah, like I said,
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we can keep doing the DIY thing, but it's a very very very slow
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grow sure. So, and I think it's very important that that you guys
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get on some bigger bills as well, because I mean, Earth Growns puts
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on a show every time. Every time I've seen you guys live, I'm
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like this, this is honestly like not even trying to butter your biscuits here,
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but like it's it's great, Like it's a lot of fun. It's
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it's it's interactive, it's I feel like I'm i feel like I'm in danger
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sometimes, which I love it. It's great. It's great. All the
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way around. Yeah, we have a lot of fun. And I mean
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like, no matter what show we play, no matter if there's two or
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two hundred, we're gonna have a good time. We're gonna put it on
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a good show because it is a lot of fun for us. I do
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really really enjoy playing music and performing and stuff. Yeah, we're just like
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we're at a point where it's like, all right, if we're gonna like
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you know, sinc all, like it just has to be worth the squeeze
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at this point, I guess is the same you know of worked I've put.
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I've poured everything into earth Grounds over the last like eight years, and
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yeah, I just I need unfortunately, I need to get a little bit
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more out of it, just because it's putting in me. It's actually putting
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me in a bad spot because like I've I've I have so much debt because
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of earth growns unfortunately. But yeah, so I'm just trying to be a
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little bit smarter, I guess going forward instead of just touring uh d I
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Y and just taking any tour that we can get, We're just at a
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place so you know, we want to get I guess a little more results
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out of the work that we're putting in. I'm also, uh, we
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didn't talk about this, but I'm like, I just started doing front of
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house touring, like as a sound guy. So I was just out with
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on that Silent Planet tour. I was out with Johnny Booth the their band
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from Long Island, New York. They are amazing. Yeah, So that
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was my first tour as being a sound guy, and it was really weird
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because I was on tour and I was actually making money. I was like,
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Oh, this is sick. This is actually really cool. And because
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of even just that one tour that I've done, I've already gotten several opportunities
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that have like come knocking at the door, and it's like, oh,
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if you know, if I can do if I can actually make money to
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tour, like why wouldn't I do that? So and I do. I
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really do like running sound also, so I'm kind of hoping that in this
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year. This year, I think I'm gonna just figure out a lot about
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what's gonna like, what am I doing with my future. It's like,
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I mean, I really want to do Earth full time. That's what I
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want to do. But the reality is that there's a good chance that Earth
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Grounes might not ever be bigger than what we are already. And I'll always
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like probably write and record Earth Grunes, But as far as like how much
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effort and priority I make that in my life will kind of determine I think
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will be determined by this year. Sure, So yeah, yeah, well
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I completely understand that. Do you feel like every time that you're gone that
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like you're recording schedule and stuff like that gets kind of messed up you're producing
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it? Definitely? It's it is hard to balance. And and now that
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I'm introducing this front of house thing, like my schedule is going to be
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really weird because it's like I somehow have to figure out how I can manage
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like the records that I'm working on recording of, like my recordings, uh
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schedule, but also like getting records done, and also like me writing,
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being able to write and record new music because if I'm what I would love
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to do is just to be able to like tour one third of the year
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in Earth Carons, one third of the year's front of house and one third
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of the year's studio. Whether I can actually do that, I don't know.
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That's it, That's right, that's this is the year to figure that
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out. But I don't know. There might be something that has to you
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know, give, but I don't know. We're gonna see. But yeah,
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it's really right now. It's just figuring things out. But yeah,
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it is tough to manage it all. And it's tough too because like I'm
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getting like I have a lot of client tell that are like, hey,
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we want to get in in the next like month or whatever, and I'm
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like, my my schedule is so full that I'm like, I honestly actually
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can't like I don't know how to like who to cut, you know,
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like when it comes down to like, oh, I just don't have time
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for some of these bands, Like I don't know how to decide like this
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band I can't do. In this band I can't do. Yeah, So
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that's the circumcise. And which ones are those that have the covenant with God?
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One of the things that you mentioned, like you know, loving to
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if Earth Growns could eventually like you know, become kind of like a supporting
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band on different tours or whatever. I'm curious. You know, you've been
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in the industry now long enough as like both a producer, you know,
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having Earth growns, and you've been in the industry for a while to know
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like there are there's like decision making process around like who do you have as
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a especially if you're a bigger band, Like who do you have as a
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supporting band or whatever? Right? And I'm curious, like, and you
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don't have to, like I mean, you can speak from experience or whatever,
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but like I'm curious, like what are some of the like criteria or
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criteria or like decision making that's around that That to me is really interesting,
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Like I see all these bands that I love and Colin loves and I'm sure
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you love, and we see like you know, they're going on like an
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album release tour or whatever, and you see like the different bands that might
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be opening for them, And I've always have been curious, like why have
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they decided those bands? Yeah, And I would imagine there's like different criteria
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that they work through to figure that out or some sort of management person does
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or whatever. But I'm really curious, like, like from your experience,
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like what has been that decision making process? And I'm curious about that because
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obviously that certainly would affect like you know, where Earth Grown fits in all
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of that right, Yeah, I mean it's different than what it used to
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be. It used to be that bands just toured with whoever they wanted to
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tour with, and it was sick. But over the years, it's like,
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especially since streaming, it's like who has the best numbers, you know,
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who's like who. But at the end of the day, it's like
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who's going to bring who's going to put the asses in the seats? You
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know, So there's like, you know, who's going to bring the people,
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who's going to sell tickets? And then there is like who is going
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to be who is going to do a favor for us? Because like that's
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why a lot of bands will they'll like incorporate like an overseas band on their
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American tour, Like they'll bring a band from Australia so that they can return
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the favor for them. Nobody nobody really gets anything for free, so there's
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always like who's going to do a favor for them? You know. There's
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also management and booking. They talk a different language than like band duds too,
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because band dudes could be like, hey, we want to bring out
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this band and management will be like, well they're not gonna like why why
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why do you want to bring that band? Like they're not going to do
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anything for the tour. So there's there's definitely a couple of different like avenues,
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different angles. There's a lot of politics involved in it, unfortunately,
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and so if you don't have like a manager that's willing to do all that
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bidding and schmoozing for you, you're kind of a little bit out of luck.
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We have a we just send a new booking agent not too long ago,
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so we're kind of hoping that he can kind of I guess get land
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some of these support tour offers, but uh yeah, a lot of politics
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involved, and it's like and if you're not one of the cool guys,
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then you're like you don't get the tours, you know, so you get
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into the cool guy group and then you get all of the tours. So
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you see a lot of the same bands, like a lot of the same
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like bands being the one of four, like the support the opening supports slot
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on a lot of these tours, and that's sick for them, Like that's
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great, Like you know, once that happens for them, they're like in
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like you know, they're part of the cool guy group. Unfortunately, we're
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not one of the cool guys, which is which is is? But that's
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that's so dumb to me because I feel like like you were, like you
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were talking about back in the day, it seems like it was much more
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about who's a good hang, right, Yeah, And if this band is
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a good hang, that's who I want on tour with me for you know,
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two or three months. And that sounds like a lot more fun and
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a lot more enjoyable, uh for me if I'm a little bit bigger band
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or whatever. Yeah, I was about to bring that up too, because
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like oftentimes we hear from artists about like, you know, we brought this
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person on simply because like, yeah, they can play their instrument or whatever,
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they can do their part, but like at the end of the day,
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like they're just a good hang, Like they're gonna be no drama and
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they're gonna be fun to hang out with, and that's like really the deciding
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factor why they brought them up. And so yeah, yeah, it's weird
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to think that, like, yeah, you could potentially bring on a band
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that yeah, might bring asses to the seats or whatever, but if they're
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like obnoxious or like not a band that you actually really want to be with
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then like you're gonna have to hang out with them for like a month or
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two months or whatever, and like that doesn't seem pretty particularly enjoyable. So
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that is an interesting dynamic, like I get from like a sort of like
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making money perspective, like, yeah, you want to bring people in that
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are gonna make you money, but at the same time, it's like you
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also like want to make life enjoyable for those like right one or two months.
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Yeah, definitely. And I mean like a lot of times like the
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so there's usually like four bands right to where together, and usually like the
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three of four band is usually like a band that's gonna like sell tickets,
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and then same with like the this two of four, but the one of
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four usually just ends up being like, Okay, let's talk to management.
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Who what's a band that's like got a lot of hype right now? You
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know, what's a new and up and coming band that has a lot of
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hype right now? And that's where you get like a lot of the bands
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that that are part of the cool Guy group or whatever that are that are
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you know that got some hype and we've been spending tires for a really long
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time, and we never I guess, we never caught on, I guess
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you could say. And so we're kind of an old, older band at
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this point. And so when somebody like in the industry looks at a band
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like that, they're like, oh, well, if they haven't made it
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yet, chances are they might not ever make it. So it's hard to
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get somebody like that to take a chance on you. And like a lot
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of these people they don't care about how good your music is. They really
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like, it's it's about I guess, the clout and it's about like what
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your numbers are doing. And it makes sense to me, like from a
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business point of view, it makes sense. So I'm not like, I'm
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not like, oh, I screw these guys in the in this industry,
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like we've we've never had amazing numbers, so it makes sense. So it's
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just, uh, it's tough, but you know, trying to like make
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moves going forward that are going to like hopefully get us a little bit better
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numbers and hopefully turn that around a little bit. But a lot of and
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a lot of bands too, or I should say, some opportunities that some
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bands get is like a bigger band will take out a smaller band just to
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take a chance on them, and we I don't want to say that we
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I don't know. I don't know if we ever really got that opportunity.
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Like we got to tour some cool bands over the years, but we I
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don't know if we ever had an opportunity where a big band was like,
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you know what, let's give these guys a chance and then you know,
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see what happens. So like, for instance, like Silent Planet, like
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they one of their big first tickets or that I know of. Anyways,
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I might be wrong, but for today, took them out as like a
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supporting band on one of their tours, and then from that point forward,
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they were like starting to get a lot more offers. And I don't know
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if we ever really got that kind of opportunity unfortunately. So yeah, you
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know that makes sense, And that's probably no part of the reason, because
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like every person that I show your music to who's sort of into the scene
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is like, this is awesome. Why haven't I heard this before? Yeah,
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it does just kind of feel like it's an exposure thing, you know.
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Yeah, And I mean when we do get on tour, like the
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support tours, that we've done, we always do really really well. Like,
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if we can get in front of people, we can do well.
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It's just getting us in front of people for some reason, that's the hard
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part. Like we did we toured with Johnny Booth like six months ago,
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and that was the most march that we've ever sold on tour. Wow,
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Like yeah, I mean because they were actually we were actually in front of
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people that like would like our kind of music. And you know, we
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work hard at our show and we were hard at playing really well, and
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so yeah, if we can get in front of people, I feel like
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we can do well. It's just us actually getting in front of people is
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apparently the hard part. One of the things that's disappointing to see in recent
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years is yeah, like you'll see these like sort of supporting bands that it
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might be like getting a little bit of hype right now in terms of like
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streaming numbers or whatever, but then you see them actually live and you're like,
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this is not like very good. Either they don't sound good or they're
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like not entertaining or whatever. Yeah, like they're not interacting with the crowd
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whatever it is. And then yeah, and then you know, like a
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band like yourself, right, Like you're you're running around in the crowd,
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like I mean, you're you're all into it, and like that's what's disappointing,
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is like, yeah, you get some of these artists and one of
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my like favorite things as a fan of music is going to a live show
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and being surprised by one of the opening bands. Yeah, that is one
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of my favorite things ever. Like you, if you want to like get
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me hooked onto you as an artist, the best way to do that is
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to be entertaining, like be interesting, like be something different in terms of
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live performances. Like that is the best way of doing it. You know.
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That's why Like again, like I know, Colin and I talked about
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the Chariot all the time, but like that's why the Chariot became such a
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big thing for I would imagine a lot of bands. Yeah, they were
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so different than all of the bands in terms of sound, but also the
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live performances when they were probably touring with like some big artists at the time.
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I don't know under Oath or whoever it would have been right at the
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time, but they would have just been so different and so to know,
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like a band like Earth growns and like you or you put you, you
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put everything into it in terms of live performance, and that should like set
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a band apart, I think. And it's unfortunate that you don't see too
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much of a value of that, like from the business people that are making
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all these decisions. Yeah, yeah, it's a good point. It's a
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good point. So anyway, sounds like we've aired our grievances, right yeah,
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whereas old people, old dudes griping about the kids these days that darn
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cloud. Yeah dude, But now it's I mean, like I still like,
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I still I sound I sound a little bit jaded, and I'm not
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trying to sound jaded, is what I'm saying about the industry. I still
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love making music, and I still love everything that goes into it. It
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is just it can be a really frustrating industry because it's not really fair.
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It's not like you a normal job. You go there, you work,
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and you can rise up in the company, right, and that's usually pretty
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much how like, you work hard and then you rise, you climb the
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ladder. But in the music industry, you can work just as hard on
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day one as day you know, year eight, And it doesn't mean that
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you're actually gonna be any higher on the ladder. So yeah, it's tough,
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but yeah, I still like, I still am really passionate about music
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and still really passionate about playing it and performing and everything. So I still
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love all of that. It's just it is just a really hard industry.
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Yeah. Well I like that you have that attitude though, because I think
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that's what I think, that's what's gonna help you and Earth Growns and the
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music and the creativity side of you. You know, really sold your on.
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So now did I see on TikTok that you're you're selling sure, MIC's
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no too, you're helping the uh so, yeah, this is really weird.
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I got so I have a pretty big TikTok Instagram following just from doing
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like reels and covers and stuff. Uh And because of that, they're sure
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like launched a new microphone and it's somebody seven b. But it's like an
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actual connection, right, Actually no, it's it just has a built in
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pre amp, right yeah yeah right? Yeah. So they had like the
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s M seven b, which is a famous microphone forever, but everyone's gripe
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is that it doesn't have enough output. And uh so you would always have
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to like buy like cloud a cloudlifter. Yeah, yep. So anyways,
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they just came out with like the seven dB and anyways, they like they
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messaged me somehow. They contacted me through Amazon. I don't remember how I
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did it, but so I've been doing like Amazon affiliate stuff for like a
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few years too, just like making a little couple Exture bucks here and there.
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But anyways, they messaged me through Amazon saying that they had this new
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product and if I get people to buy through my like videos and stuff like
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that, I'll get like a bigger commission. So I don't remember. It's
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called like creator Connections or something like that, but anyway, it's like some
25:00
people do that and they're like you once you are, like I don't know,
25:03
if you have a big enough following or whatever it is, they'll like
25:07
invite you into this program and then you can like make more commission. So
25:12
like, yeah, I make ten percent commission on every mic that I like
25:17
that is purchased through my link. Uh so yeah, it's like fifty bucks
25:21
because it's like a five hundred dollars microreer. Oh yeah, so expensive mic.
25:25
Yeah. So it's it's cool. I just saw I just made a
25:27
couple like videos and stuff like that and made a you know, one hundred
25:33
and fifty bucks or I don't remember how much I've made so much so far,
25:37
but yeah, so if you want to buy an SM seven dB,
25:41
which it is a great microphone, it's like awesome, Like I'm glad that
25:45
they finally like fix that. Anyways, go I if I didn't already have
25:49
what I have for a microphone with the SM seven B, like I would
25:52
have totally gotten that. But I bought this like four years or three years
25:56
ago. Yeah, I'm looking to upgrade and potentially get one because I I
26:00
really like that idea and I think it will handle like a little bit heavier
26:04
vocals too, from the sounds of it, right, Yeah, it's something
26:08
like sure microphone is just like all the way around. It's like a great
26:12
microphone for taking loud sources. So if you're doing a podcast, uh,
26:18
like it's obviously obviously really great, like you barely have to do anything a
26:22
little bit of compression and that's it and it's good to go. And then
26:25
if you want to like scream into it, it's also like my favorite screaming
26:30
mic like in the studio like that's what I always put in front of people
26:33
when they're doing screams. Love yeah, love it loving. Uh, well,
26:37
that's that's super cool. I love I love your your TikTok covers and
26:41
stuff like that too, Like, thank you a great job your I think
26:45
you did Eye of the Storm by Blindside once I did I did About a
26:53
Burning Fire yeah, and then let's see, I might have done another one
26:59
too. I've done like at this point, I've done over two hundred,
27:03
which is crazy, but it's been it's been fun, It's made me a
27:07
better vocalist. It was something I did. I started over COVID just to
27:12
kind of like I guess, you know, keep busy, and it was
27:17
something I've always wanted to do, and then it just like really started taking
27:21
off for me. So I was like, Okay, I'll keep doing it,
27:25
and then I've I've just stayed busy with it like ever since, and
27:27
it's like gotten some really cool opportunities for me. Like honestly, I've had
27:32
more more luck doing vocal covers, like I've gotten like more, I've had
27:37
more success with vocal covers than I have had with my own bands. So
27:41
just it's whatever I mean it's not the way that I want to gain fans,
27:47
but like because of the covers, I've had a lot of people like
27:51
find out about Earth Growns. So it's it's cool. Like even on this
27:55
tour that I was on doing Front of House, I was so I did
28:00
Front of House and then I also like ran the Johnny Booth Smirch and like
28:03
I had several people come up to me a night and say, dude,
28:07
I love your vocal covers, like sick, I'm in a band too.
28:11
Have you heard of Earth Grounds? And like half of them never have never
28:15
heard of Earth Grounds. Wow. I was like okay, well, and
28:17
then I would take their phone and be like, okay, go if you
28:19
like my vocal covers, go listen to this band now. So that's awesome.
28:23
They're probably like, yeah, his vocal covers are better. Well,
28:30
it's unfair you're talking about like you're talking about like the biggest songs in the
28:34
heavy jist. Yeah. I mean, of course that's gonna that's gonna be
28:38
like pretty much tough to compete with no matter what. But yeah, but
28:42
I understand why vocal covers are like covers are. It's different because it's like
28:48
something that you're already familiar with and then like just hearing it through a new
28:52
light. But like investing time into a new band is a whole thing.
28:56
It's like you can like if if a band has a cloud, has clout
28:59
or whatever, where you can be like, Okay, I'm gonna go listen
29:02
to this band because everyone else is talking about how cool they are and you
29:04
have to invest time into deciding if you like it or not. So that
29:08
is like that's a thing. Yeah, it makes sense, makes sense.
29:11
Wow, it it seems like it seems like you just have too many irons
29:18
of the fire all the time. I have. I have a lot,
29:21
and I've like I'm a very ambitious person. I actually I've always said I
29:25
have too many aspirations for one lifetime. And it's really tough because like I
29:29
want to there are several other things that I want to do, like I
29:32
wanted to do, like I want to do, like I wanted to start
29:36
a booking agency like for bands, like that was something that I've always wanted
29:40
to do, but never I have had like the time because it's it's a
29:45
lot. And then like I also I also want to do like art,
29:48
like painting, Like I want to do that full time. I haven't really
29:52
had much time for that since after COVID, like because during COVID I did
29:56
a bunch and then I once it was over, then I was back to
30:00
the studio. But anyways, yeah, I just have too many, too
30:03
many things that I really want to pursue and just don't have the time for
30:07
it. Mm hmm. It's the starving artist, yeah for sure. Yeah,
30:15
oh man, the starving artists will always be. It's it's it's not
30:21
even just a trope anymore. It's a it's just it's it's a way of
30:23
being at this point. Yeah for sure. Yeah, that's good. The
30:27
artist with too long of nipple hairs, that's true. Do you ever play
30:33
the nipple bass? But ing ding ding ding ding ming? You could,
30:37
you could play, you could come out on stage and at least like if
30:41
you were too embarrassed by your nipple hair, then you could like at least
30:44
like you make that thing a little higher and then yeah, yeah, the
30:48
primus style. Yeah, we've seen Mason, and I have seen you play
30:53
bass very poorly. Yes, not as poor is at least as me playing
31:02
drums or singing or I was just watch it. I just watched what everybody
31:07
else does, and then I just like find the notes. But it's all
31:12
I gotta do. Jeremy, you're ready for you could do You could do
31:19
either or or both. And we're millennials, so you could do both.
31:23
And uh so you could do either. You're the artists who on paper you
31:30
should like for whatever reason you don't, or you could do or and if
31:36
you wanted to, if you're really ambitious, you could do artists that you
31:38
shouldn't like for whatever reason on paper or on paper you shouldn't like, but
31:44
you do like, so uh yeah, or wherever you want to begin,
31:48
however you want to do that. Okay, this is this is gonna be
31:52
tough. I'm gonna I'll see if I can. I can power through this.
31:56
The first one that I will say on paper I should like but don't
32:04
is probably going to be Oh, I just had a stroke and forgot the
32:10
name of the band who sings Helena. My Chemical Romance, My Chemical Romance.
32:15
Oh my gosh, I'm sorry. So the pressure I can't take it.
32:20
I crack under pressure. So I think My Chemical Romance is probably the
32:23
first band that I just have never gotten into. And I grew up like
32:30
wearing all black an eyeliner and like the white striped I had, like the
32:36
swoop everything. But yeah, I just I never got into them. But
32:40
I also somehow I went from like listening to the Backstreet Boys to a job
32:47
for a cowboy, and I kind of like skip Like, are you still
32:53
suffering from the from the whiplash? Dude? I still skipped over like the
33:00
whole emo movement. I don't know what happened. What kind of CTE do
33:02
you have going on in your brain? I don't, I don't know.
33:07
But I was for NFL Player, but I was like I thought I was
33:12
dressing like an emo kid. But I thought I was dressing like a metal
33:15
kid because I guess I grew up in South Dakota, and I'm just like,
33:17
oh, they're metal? Where this so? But anyway, so I
33:23
somehow, yeah, I somehow like missed the whole emo movement and then came
33:28
back to it later in life, like five years ago, and then went
33:34
and listened to all these emo bands that I should have liked, And some
33:37
of them I did like and then, but a lot of them I never
33:39
did. And and my Chemical Romance is like everyone's favorite band, and I
33:45
was like, what, how why I get it? I don't know,
33:50
I totally get it. Yeah, you had to be there. It's like
33:53
one of those moments, you know, Yeah, I just can't get into
33:57
his voice there, there's yeah, there's just nothing about it where I'm like
34:00
this is interesting to me. All I remember is that a lot of the
34:04
girls I was interested in in middle school were really into Gerard Way, who's
34:07
the lead singer, And so I was like, okay, that must be
34:10
okay, then I should probably like that as well, so that I can
34:14
also, yeah, make some headway with some of these these girls. You
34:20
know. So that's where it starts, saying, you listen enough and then
34:25
you just start falling in love with it too. That's how you get a
34:28
supporting band is you get all the the young girls, the teenage girls,
34:31
to get into your band, that's true. And then you get all the
34:35
boys to like like your band because the teenage girls were in your band like
34:38
that's and then all of a sudden, now you're touring with under Oath.
34:42
Yeah, and you know what's interesting is all the girls are really starting to
34:45
get interested in mustaches again. You know how like like we went through like
34:49
a little bit of like a low hear like the last like five six years.
34:52
Yeah. Now all of a sudden they're like, hey, mustache season's
34:55
back. Yeah, why don't you send them bye? Way? Because all
35:00
the girls that I talked to you still on into it. So and by
35:04
all the girls I talked to, don't I don't talk to any girl?
35:07
Yeah, all the all the three girls from Scotland South Dakota talking to Doreene
35:10
down at the corner. She's a pensioner. Yeah. So anyway, w
35:22
is there a w in Scotland? No, yes, of course there is.
35:27
You do you make your way down there? I know? I?
35:30
Oh, I don't. I actually I still don't know what a VFW is
35:36
that Foreign Wars and it's it's it's it's meant to like support veterans and okay,
35:40
but there are never any veterans there hanging out. Are there like almost
35:45
almost all the time. It's usually yeah, it's usually run by veterans and
35:50
then they all have like and they get cheap beer, very cheap beer.
35:53
That part I knew what. Okay, there's usually go to night so they're
35:59
like doing liken you out reaching Yeah. I mean the only thing that I've
36:01
ever known vfw's for is. We would have shows in the basement, but
36:05
there was never any like, there was never any like dude hanging out over
36:08
there that was like a veteran I guess, so I never yeah, it
36:13
was. I mean like veterans can look like anybody, though, I mean,
36:15
like, are you just like expecting there to be a guy at the
36:17
end of the car or at the end of the bar with like a helmet
36:21
on and just like with his suit on. I don't know, no,
36:24
I mean, I guess, yeah. I just like, there's never anybody.
36:27
Anytime I've been to one, there's never anyone there. So that's interesting.
36:31
Yeah. Yeah, anyways, I'm just here to learn. So yeah,
36:36
well, you know, I just figured that everyone from South Dakota knew
36:38
that vfws are like a staple of where we're from, you know, yeah,
36:43
yeah, yeah, all right, So what's another what's another one of
36:46
them bands that U good on paper but you don't, like, yeah,
36:51
where to go next? Let's see, let's see. I'm gonna I'm gonna
36:55
say Lorna Shore. Oh, I know, that's totally I totally get this
37:01
one though. Yeah, so I think and and it's the same way for
37:07
like Slaughter to Prevail for me is like the bands they're very much they're it's
37:13
all. It's like a vocal driven fan like it's all. It's like a
37:15
shock factor thing. It's like, oh, this dude can make disgusting sounds
37:21
and because of that, yeah, it works. And I think, like
37:24
I think they're both phenomenal vocalists. I really do, but I just,
37:30
yeah, I don't. I don't necessarily get into their music as much,
37:32
and just like I can see why people are into this because it's something really
37:37
new and like crazy, but when it comes down to like like good foundational
37:43
music and such like, I don't know, Like I've I've tried to like
37:46
really get into Lona Shore, like I've like listened through the record. I'm
37:51
just like, And it's also like they're kind of like a they're like pull
37:52
out of influence from black metal, and black metal was never my thing as
37:57
much, and Slaughter to Prevail as to me is like a rise record band
38:01
with heavy vocals. So I don't know, and like there's there are times
38:07
where I hear something I'm like, dude, that's freaking sick, but as
38:09
a whole and for how much clout did they have Uh yeah, I'm just
38:15
like not, I'm not as far on board with it as everybody else.
38:20
But it might be because I look at it from like a different lens.
38:22
Maybe, sure, Yeah, I kind of I've always kind of felt like
38:25
they're they're both just a little too gimmicky. I almost feel like and and
38:30
and I'm not, like, like you said, I'm not taking away your
38:32
talent. But yeah, I don't know when when I know people who aren't
38:38
metal people or heavy music people that like Lorna Shore, I'm so confused.
38:45
And I get that it's a TikTok thing, but I'm like, I'm super
38:47
confused by how you could cross that bridge, but then you couldn't. You
38:53
couldn't like a lot of these other bands, you know, I don't know.
38:57
Yeah, it is a shock rock thing. I think you're right.
39:00
Yeah, yeah, And that's cool, Like I understand it. Like I
39:02
feel like that's the way like a lot of bands that are are as big
39:06
as they are is because they did something really new and crazy that like people
39:10
didn't expect or something. It's just something fresh, I guess probably. And
39:15
the sounds that some of these dudes are making are like on Human Yeah,
39:20
yeah, so it's cool. Like I and I'm always about progression as artists
39:24
and stuff, and I think that some of the things that these artists are
39:28
doing, you know, are really crazy and really cool. So I respect
39:34
that. It's just like some of that music that I just like, it's
39:38
hard for me just to actually be a big fan of Sure, so I
39:42
listened to on the regular. Something that's frustrated me about Lorna Shore too,
39:45
is this My wife and I when we got married, we started planning out
39:51
our kids' names like way in advance because we're like, just like really cool
39:54
names, And the name we were going to name our daughter if we ever
40:00
have one is Laurna. So like now, that's never gonna happen because all
40:07
I'd have to do every time that like little Laura walks in the room.
40:10
But of course I'd be playing Laura Shore so that you know, my wife
40:15
is Emory or Amberlain still on the table. No, that never was.
40:20
I tried with. I tried with my wife. But all right, let's
40:23
go, let's do one more band. Either a band that you like on
40:29
paper but you don't actually like, or you don't like on paper but you
40:34
do like I'm gonna keep with on the I'm gonna keep on the thing.
40:39
The bands on paper I should like, but I don't. I love it.
40:45
I love pop music, I love hip hop, and I love most
40:49
of the top forty stuff. But I do not get Drake. Oh,
40:54
totally understandable. I don't know. I don't. Everybody loves Drake and I'm
41:00
I just can't. I don't know why, but there's something about what he
41:06
does. Even anytime he features, I'm like, I don't like it.
41:08
I don't like it. I don't know. I I'll listen to Cardi B
41:15
all day. I'll put on like logic, I'll put on eminem I'll put
41:20
on I don't know. I'm just trying suicide Boys, whatever, name a
41:23
couple more white rappers. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not racist.
41:30
Wait, isn't that a Joiner? That's a Joiner Lucas song? So you're
41:32
good? Oh we're good. Yeah, But I get the whole thing about
41:37
Drake, Like at this point, it just feels like he's just like a
41:38
meme. He like everything about him is a meme, and it's like,
41:44
what is there actually any substance behind the meme. I don't know, it's
41:46
the way his like is. There's something about the texture of his voice too,
41:50
it's like almost too silky. I'm like, this isn't a real person.
41:53
This is a robot. This was AI generated. It does kind of
41:57
sound like if you've ever seen the movie War Games. Sometimes when he sings
42:01
uh, it kind of sounds like the robot for war Games, not the
42:07
robot, the the computer program. I should say, Joshua is the name
42:10
of the computer program. And it's like chall we play a game. But
42:15
they're like the way like like the vocal range is like an exact same the
42:20
way like kind of grits a little bit. I don't know, hard to
42:22
explain if you hear it, you know what I mean. Honestly, that's
42:25
what I could think of. Like if somebody told me that this is an
42:29
AI generated vocal I'd be like, oh, yeah, that makes sense to
42:31
me. Yeah. All I can ever think about when I think about Drake
42:36
is when he was a paraplegic on Degrassi. What I forget about that.
42:45
Yeah, So he started off on this TV show, this like tween TV
42:49
show, and he's like this paraplegic guy and he just he rolls around and
42:55
he's like, y know, he's he's a paraplegic guy on a show,
43:00
and it's it's it's so awkward thinking about what he became. It's like when
43:07
you find out that like Britney Spears and Ryan Goslin were on like The Mickey
43:13
or whatever it was. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a really like,
43:17
you know, heartfelt kind of show. And then here's Drake five years later
43:22
talking about the most misogynist things you can think of. It's just weird to
43:29
me, you know, yeah, yeah, Uh, do you want to
43:32
do it? Do you want to do anymore? Do you do? You
43:37
have at least one where you're like, on paper, I should not like
43:39
this artist, but for whatever reason, I'm just like obsessed. Oh man,
43:46
I can see you. I could. I could see you like on
43:50
paper really disliking Ice Spice, but then in real life you love her.
43:54
I'm trying to think if there's anybody that actually would stick up, I would
44:00
say the only thing that I could say is probably what's his name? Oh
44:05
my gosh, just freaking have a stroke again. Oh you're gonna have to
44:09
g easy because of how wretched he is. Like, I don't really like
44:15
to listen to music that's like super like lyrically like bad, I mean just
44:21
because I don't like to put my brain through that. But he is like
44:23
the most wretched like rapper out there. But I freaking love G Easy,
44:29
Like he's one of my favorites. That's funny, but I couldn't. Like
44:34
there are times where I have to like, Okay, I have to turn
44:36
this off because it's getting to me too much. I was really nervous you're
44:40
gonna say something like Tom McDonald or something. No, but G Easy I
44:46
would say that's the one on paper because of like my convictions and whatever.
44:52
But yeah, because his music, his lyrics are so wretched. Like my
44:57
friend or yeah, my friend Derek Hoop Drums and earth Grounds, he loves
45:01
to listen to wretched music, and he's like every time I put it on,
45:05
he's like, I'm so surprised that you like this band. I'm like,
45:07
I can't help it, dude, it's just so good. It was
45:10
like it's so filthy. Yeah, I have that exact same thing. I
45:15
don't know if it's like the good Christian boy that I grew up as,
45:20
but like there's a lot of that, especially the hip hop music that I
45:23
just I cannot listen to because I'm like, oh, I just feel so
45:28
gross listening to this, you know, start listening to Dear Slim. Yeah,
45:35
Like if I played that around my mom, she would just own me.
45:39
Yeah. Yeah, she put you up for adoption. Yeah, my
45:45
mom burned my Chiney CD in front of me. Like, imagine what would
45:50
happen if she heard gaz Yeah she burned you with it. Yeah, she'd
45:54
be like, you're done too. That's a good list, though it is.
46:00
It's always it's always shocking, like how much into yeah the top forty
46:05
stuff you are? Like, I just I always forget. I'll listen,
46:07
Like, honestly, I listened to that far more than I listened to metal
46:12
core. But again, I also work in metal core, so like,
46:15
if I hear a medical core band, like come on, I am like
46:19
studying the music. I'm studying the production. So my brain is always working.
46:24
When I hear a metal core band, I get that. So if
46:28
I want to like relax and like take a break from work, it's gonna
46:31
be go to Sue Falls, go to the Empire Mall or whatever Empire mall,
46:37
go hang out. Yeah, when's the last time you've been in this
46:40
Empire mall. I haven't been there in a while that I think that actually
46:45
the last time I went there is I went there because I wanted some horrible
46:49
mall Chinese food. I don't think I went there to shop. I just
46:52
wanted the terrible, like the really like all one hundred MSG like Mall East
47:00
food that makes total was probably like and then I felt awful of course afterwards.
47:05
But I don't remember the last time I went there to actually shop.
47:09
Yeah, it is kind of weird, like I haven't been in them all
47:14
in a long long time. You and a lot of other people there is
47:17
the reason why they are change in that. Yeah, I think I might
47:22
have gone there to go to like the shoe store, because theyways have a
47:27
couple of different shoe stores. Yeah, and I hate buying shoes, Like
47:31
buying shoes is one of my like I buy shoes once every two to three
47:36
years. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I hate buying sh I will wear
47:38
my shoes out. I hate getting like for the first month of owning new
47:43
shoes, they just feel terrible because they're not like worn in yet. I
47:49
would rather buy somebody's old shoes than have to go buy new shoes. What
47:52
size do you wear? Well? Ten and a half? Oh no,
47:57
really, you're pretty tall for a ten and a half shoe. I don't
48:00
know. Yeah, and you're how I know that the old size of the
48:05
feet thing don't matter. You catch my drift. Oh you know what they
48:09
say about big feet, what big shoes? Big shoes? Of course?
48:19
Have you never heard this before? Big celebrity socks? Yes, of course.
48:23
Yeah. How's your sock business doing these days? It's not doing so
48:27
good. Times times have been tough. People are really locking up their socks
48:31
tight in these days. Yeah, it's just been hard to get them,
48:34
is what you're saying. Yeah, not hard to sell. Which is actually
48:37
funny because I just talked to somebody the other day that said, when he
48:40
goes on tour, he wears his socks and then throws them away. That's
48:45
awful. He wears them for like a day or two and then just throws
48:50
him away. He doesn't, he doesn't. God, that's like almost as
48:52
bad as like Taylor Swift and her private jet. I saw. I saw
48:58
a joke the other day that was like I U I use or I use
49:02
paper straws, so that Taylor Swift can fly in her private chat, It's
49:12
like that's dedication and kreflow dollars. Sitting down there in the South. He's
49:15
like, I'll raise your jet, Taylor Swift. Here's a Boeing seven forty
49:22
seven. Well along those lines, Jeremy, what do you want to plug?
49:29
Obviously, new music is eventually going to come out from the Earth Groans
49:32
camp, but h and obviously you guys want to do tours and everything.
49:37
But yeah, anything that fans right now can expect from y'all, So I
49:42
guess for yeah, so earth Grun's gonna have some new and music hopefully soon.
49:50
Ish there's my crotch, my circumcised crotch. Yep. So earth Grund
49:55
is gonna have some new music coming out in the next uh hopefully. I
50:00
want to say like a month and a half to two months, depends on
50:04
I mean, streaming stuff is weird, like you have to book it like
50:07
a month and a half out so you can pitch it for for playlists and
50:12
stuff. But yeah, so hopefully a month or so. And then we're
50:15
also going to have like talking to these guys about it. But we're going
50:19
to be doing rebrand, so we're going to have a whole new line of
50:22
merch, which will hopefully be sick. Yeah. So wat some new music,
50:27
some new merch, some new videos, whole load of new content coming
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out in the next few months. So that's probably the biggest thing. We
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don't have any tours currently lined up, but we are working on some that
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will hopefully come with the new music also, but still waiting here. Back
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on a couple of festivals. But yeah, nothing, nothing too crazy other
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than just new content and new music, which is always exciting, beautiful.
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I can't wait. It's gonna be awesome. I always love getting me some
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merch or some growns merch as well. Yeah. So yeah, I invest
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as much effort and time and energy into merch as I do music because I
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think it's as equally as important. Perfect Is there anything else you'd like to
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plug? Yeah? So I have a new endeavor that I just that I
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just started recently. Actually, my cat helped me with this one. He's
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he's a he's one of my my partners. Is So this is a weird
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one, but it's mummified bats and other small animals. Yeah, so it
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started. It started with bats, but so we have a lot of bats
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in this town and actually in my attic, I have a lot of bats.
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But so I with a little hunting, I'm able to like locate bats
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and I'm you usually you know they're dead. I don't kill any of them.
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I let them die from natural causes or from my cat killing them.
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But uh yeah, I get these mummified bats and then I put them in
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glass frames and yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like yep, I saw
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these. It's like, uh yeah, they're like in the glass thing,
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like it's like a portrait but an actual like mummified Yeah, sad and everything.
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Well, I don't try to like manipulate them after they've been after they've
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died. Most of them, Yeah, they they come like you'll find them
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like usually face down with their arms out. Sure, So do you ever
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like put like little suits on them or anything like that? You know,
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I haven't, but that's not a bad idea, Like given one, a
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little bow tie might be actually yeh might be. Or or maybe some sunglasses.
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Sunglasses on a bat could be like a logo on their chest or something
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like that. Oh yeah that is yeah. And then in the parallel universe
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that probably exists, I'm sure it does. Yeah, if it's in a
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parallel universe. That means that exists in our universe as well. Oh right,
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that's so that means you got to do it. Oh yeah, yeah,
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I guess the next the next mumified bat I find. You know,
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I I do have a virtually limitless supply at bats. Really. The school
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that I work at has a very very old part of the building that they're
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about to tear it down. Oh but my my old classroom. It wasn't
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like the very top floor of this this building, of the third floor,
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and it's old and crusty and nasty. I went up there two weeks ago
53:37
to go grab something that I left up there, and there are three bats
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hanging from the ceiling. Oh wow, and two or three of the I
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think there was two of them that were laying on the ground, completely mammified,
53:46
just as you were talking about. So send them over, I'll uh,
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yeah, I'll send them over. I'll uh I'll keep them pristine,
53:52
in good shape and everything like that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, don't
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be uh, don't be in any of their their feces. No no,
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no, you get brain cancer or something something with their poop gives you brain
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problems. COVID maybe, yeah, you know, What you could do is
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you could go into if you do decide that you want to go get a
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new record label, you could bring a bat with you and then as you
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sit down at the negotiating table, just bite his head off, like worked
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for Ozzy. Yeah, if it works for Ozzy to work for you.
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This guy is so crazy he deserves it. I've heard that. Yeah,
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yeah, Actually a funny bats story. There was one time. Actually I've
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had a couple bats get in the studio while bands are here, just because
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we also have a lot of bats out here. Yeah. And I live
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in the highest mountain, highest hill of the town, the highest point in
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the city, the town of Elevation. It's very high. But yeah,
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so a lot of bats live up in my area. I live like by
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a couple of Victorian houses too, so yeah, it's perfect for for vampires.
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But I had a bat get into the band suite and it was like
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it was it couldn't have happened to a better band because this band is like
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rock star like they like act it. They have the egos everything. So
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it's you guys, like you guys had light Worker there. Nope, Nope,
55:24
nope, nope, nope. The most they're the most humble guys ever.
55:28
So okay, yeah, no, they're great guys. I actually have
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had them here. But so I won't say the name of the band because
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I don't want to give away, but uh yeah, so they're just like
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they really like they're rock stars. And and this freaking bat like shows up
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and so I catch it and I release it outside because that's what kind of
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guy I am. You know, I'm not gonna kill I'm not gonna kill
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that. They're also like endangered, I believe, but should you put that
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in your tender profile that yes, care about bats. That's why I preserve
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them. And that's why I preserve them. I so I released this bad
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It's like ten at night, Okay. I wake up and I step out
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of my door and the lead guy of the band is standing there. He's
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waiting for me to come out, and he said, there's another bat.
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So I'm pretty pretty sure the bat that I threw outside went out came right
56:24
back here. Yeah, And they're like, you have no idea how much
56:29
we slept or how much we didn't sleep last night because that bat was in
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here, like they were too scared of it. And so I, I
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mean I've I walk in there and I see it. It's hanging on I
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have a wood wall, like an old wood wall whatever, and I so
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I brought gloves with me because you don't want to get bit by bat.
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And I put on a leather this leather thing glove and I go and I
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grab it off of the wall and I go and I release it again,
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and they're like, they're like amazed that I grabbed a bat with after they
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were fighting with it all night. They were like trying to hit it with
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it. They broke a broom trying to kill it, and I just walked
57:12
over and God didn't like let it go, and they like could not believe
57:15
that I had that whisper. I'm the bat whisper. You know. I
57:20
didn't go to a lot of college parties while I was in college, but
57:22
there was one I did go to, and uh, when I walked in,
57:27
everyone was like kind of huddled up in a corner, and I was
57:30
like, what's what's going on? Like there's a bat in year. I'm
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like, you guys got a broom and they grabbed a broom for me,
57:38
and like I was like trying to act all cool and everything, and I
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just like very like confidently, just took one swing at it and I knocked
57:46
it out and everyone was like gobsmacked. They're like, how did you do
57:52
that? Oh my god, it was the greatest. I mean, I
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used to play baseball. Ah. Well, I'm glad to know that the
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bat mummification business. Uh. I didn't know that there was an industry for
58:13
it, but I'm glad it still exists. I'm glad to know that they
58:15
are clearly goth girls still out there that are interested and in this, so
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uh yeah, I'm you know, and hopefully those goth girls eventually find out
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about Earth Growns too, right, Yeah, absolutely, Hopefully this goes better
58:29
than my, uh the celebrity socks on things. I think it will.
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I think it will. Yeah, you know. I think what you could
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also do is you could like put little socks on the bats. Yeah that's
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that's a pretty good idea and then give them like yeah yeah yeah, I
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like it, give like little chains with the like yeah yeah this is bat,
58:51
this is Bat Drake. His music's better than actual Drake and less misogynist.
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Yes, Jeremy, thank you so much for chatting about new Earth Growns.
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You are You've been on the podcast so many times now, like my
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third time. Yes, I should get a plague. I feel like there
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should be a plaque somewhere. You are. You are among our Mount Rushmore
59:19
of Black shooting guests. Yes awesome. Yeah, of course you're Teddy Roosevelt.
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As long as you keep making music, we're gonna keep inviting you back
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on SO thank you so much for chatting about new music, chatting about Batman
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mummification, and uh, we're hoping to see you sometime soon at the show.
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Yeah sounds good, dude, appreciate you having me on stash Shot to
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