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RECUT Starting Over at 53: Rob Benedict on Parenting, Timing & the Village It Takes · Mommywood

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  Welcome to Mommy Would, the podcast where motherhood meets
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  Hollywood. Real moms, real talk, no
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  scripts. I'm your host, Emily Bolt, and
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  we are talking about the messy, funny and unfiltered side of
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  being a mom in the entertainment industry.
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  On this episode of Mommy Would, I am talking to a dear friend,
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  Rob Benedict. Now this episode is a recutting
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  of a previous conversation we've already had, but of.
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  Course it hits. Differently listening back to it
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  now and this is more of a highlights reel of our previous
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  conversation. This is so full.
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  Circle for me because I'm sitting down with Rob, who's an
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  actor, a writer, a musician, but before this conversation.
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  I was his kids. Nanny I got a front row seat to
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  see what it was actually like to build a career in this industry
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  while raising his family. We.
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  Have been so close for so many years now.
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  Of course, years later I'm a mom myself.
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  Rob started again with a brand new baby at 53.
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  We talk about what's. Changed what hasn't and what no
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  one tells you about trying to make it all work.
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  This conversation is about identity, timing, support, and
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  the reality of having it all. Let's get into it.
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  You're going to love this recut. This is so exciting for me.
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  I feel like this is such AI don't know what the term is.
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  I was going to say colliding of worlds but that's not right.
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  A turning of tables. That's not right.
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  Tables a little bit, but yeah. So you and I have known each
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  other longer than I've known my husband.
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  That's. Right.
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  Preston I. Was there?
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  I know it's so wild. We've known each other that
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  long. So.
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  So I know the names and ages of your children, but will you
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  share the names and ages of your children?
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  So I've got Calvin is 20. I'm going to throw up.
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  And Audrey turns 17 next weekend.
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  And then I have Margaret, who is a six week old.
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  Oh my God. So just a little back story.
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  The reason we know each other for a bajillion years is because
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  I nanied Audrey and Calvin, which makes me want to die that
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  no, I'm like, how are they that old?
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  And I feel because I was like, oh, I guess I met them when I
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  was 25. And I'm like, how was I-25 at
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  one point? I mean, I'm sure as their
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  parent, you feel the same where you're like, how did they get so
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  old? And I like, really haven't aged
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  that much. I know.
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  And I don't feel the age that I am.
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  And yeah. And they, they're taller than
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  me. They're like, they're adults.
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  They're very much adults. And you knew them when they were
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  kids, you know, And like, something definitely happens.
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  Like kids turn into adults, you know, they, they they go through
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  puberty and they wind up on the other side.
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  And you're having real conversations with them and
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  you're like, oh, my God. Like, and you, you miss it.
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  You really miss the little kid you got.
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  You got to see them. Like you got to spend time with
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  them when they really were at that Primo Stadium.
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  I think I I started watching them when they were like 5:00
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  and 8:00. That's amazing.
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  Yeah, it must have been yeah, cuz Audrey was that was when she
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  was still in her pink Princess face.
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  Oh my God. And it's funny because I really
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  saw Calvin through most of the gambit cuz I think until cuz I
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  was bringing it like I'm being just like drop off and pick up
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  for high school though. So like I've seen him like, but
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  I really missed like that whole cause of COVID.
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  I really missed the whole chunk of Audrey and so much of me is
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  like, Audrey, what are you doing?
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  Should we go have lunch? Totally.
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  And part of me is like, is that weird?
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  But I'm like, you were such a huge, I mean, we were such a
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  huge part of. Each other.
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  So long because I mean going back well it's funny because
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  wanting to ask you so many questions about like how you
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  guys made it work 10 and obviously I'm kind of like well
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  I guess I was I guess it was all me so you're.
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  Welcome. I mean, you know, and we had a,
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  we have a unique, we had a unique setup, not as unique in,
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  in Hollywood, but you know, I'm an actor and, and my wife was a
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  lawyer. I say it was 'cause we divorced,
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  but you know that. And so I was home.
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  So you and I spent a lot of time together because you know, I'm
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  home a lot. As with the actor schedule, like
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  you never quite know I was either out in the country or
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  right I was home. Yeah, it was either you're here
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  or not. Like exactly.
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  Exactly. Kind of wild.
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  Yeah, but. But I'm, oh, go ahead.
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  Spent a lot of time together because of that, you know, for
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  that reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Which was so cool. I mean, really like an
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  inspiration to me to be like he's doing it.
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  He has kids, they have, you know, this and like making it
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  work and obviously having help. And you had, I forget the nanny
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  before me, but Norma, yes, Norma when they were little little.
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  So so obviously help is a huge factor.
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  But before so, so let's go way back before you moved out here,
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  or like when you were moving out here because 'cause you were
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  pretty young. Yeah, yeah.
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  Out here early. Yeah, so I graduated college and
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  came came out with with Molly, my who's my girlfriend at the
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  time. And but we were like in a set up
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  shop and yeah, out for, you know, we and we came from the
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  Midwest and I'm from Missouri like you are.
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  And she was from Illinois and went to College in Chicago and
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  graduated and, like, loaded up the car and came out here 2 two
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  cars. Yeah.
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  Yeah. And so.
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  Yeah. And then we could, we got
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  married super young. I I was, I was 24, she was 23.
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  Wow. Yeah.
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  My mom, we, I was just talking to my mom in the car about
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  'cause we were talking about how you know, that Audrey and Calvin
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  are older now and like that I was 25 and I and she said that
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  she got married at 23 and I was like, what?
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  Wow, you're a different. Yeah.
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  Human but so moving out, obviously you were coming out
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  for acting and I feel like you were lucky and you know
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  obviously hard work and talent, but that you worked pretty
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  quickly. But how did that look?
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  What was that like being like, OK.
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  And it's always interesting hearing, I guess, from a male
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  perspective of being in the industry and wanting a family.
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  Yeah, you know, it was a challenge and Molly was also
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  very career driven and. Yeah, she was gone about as much
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  as you if. Not yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  And she, you know, Monday through Friday, she was, you
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  know, she was going to be out the door at 7 and at home at
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  7:00 at night. But so she went to law school.
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  She applied to law schools in Chicago and in LA because LA is
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  where I wanted to go. And she got into UCLA and so
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  that's where she went to law school.
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  And yeah, so we were always sort of both of us are pretty driven.
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  And but I always, I don't know, I just in my mind, like I just
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  always wanted a family. I wanted a family.
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  I wanted. I knew I was going to marry
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  Molly. I knew it was this is going to
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  be what my life was. And so, but at the same time, we
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  were all we were both very career driven.
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  So it was like in her mind, she didn't want to even talk about
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  kids until we were in our 30s. And I was the one who sort of
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  like, yeah, I would, I would bring give tours of whatever,
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  wherever we lived. I was like, this is this will be
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  the baby room, you know? And she didn't like that.
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  She didn't like me even saying that.
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  She was like, you know, so. Interesting.
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  But so, yeah, so you know, we were, we started to to work and,
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  and I think once we felt a little more on our feet, which
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  was about 10 years later after we married, if we in our early
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  30s, we're like we, you know, we finally bought a house and we're
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  like, all right, let's, let's do it.
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  I remember at the moment, you know, I was always the one who
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  was like, and this is the kids room, you know, whatever.
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  And she was like, don't I don't, I don't, that's not funny to me.
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  And and then she finally was like, she was like, OK, I'm
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  ready. And I was like, OK, whoa, whoa,
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  whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's I was the one who was
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  like, when it really came to it, I was like, OK, hold on, hold
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  on. Let's talk about this.
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  Because at, at the time I was working a lot and I and I was
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  like, how, how is this going to work?
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  I mean, it really was a, it was a challenge just even
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  considering how because I was worried as the, as the person
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  who's who doesn't have like a steady gig.
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  I know what this year's going to be that I would be have to sort
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  of stop what I was doing and, you know, be a full time dad
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  and, and not be able to work anymore.
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  And that was my fear. Yeah, well, and that's kind of
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  why I started Mommy would because I was like, I in the
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  same position where it's like, OK, well Preston and I are both
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  in it, but being like, OK, yeah, how is this going to work if I
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  don't want to stop and like what's going to happen?
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and that was part of the,
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  you know, reason we we ended up getting Norma and then you.
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  I mean, we, I wanted the flexibility to be able to
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  because as an actor, it's, it's really difficult.
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  You you, you know, like you never know what yours going to
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  be, but you have to be ready. But the what what you don't plan
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  on is you actually kind of want to stay home.
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  That was the other part of it. You know, you actually, you
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  don't. You don't factor in the love
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  that you have to, you know. You know, yeah, beforehand.
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  Right before you have the kid, you're always like, you're like,
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  OK, well, I remember her and I again, we were young, but we're
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  like 30, early 30s. But we're like, you know, this
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  baby's not going to change our life.
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  It's this is our house, damn it. You know, yeah, we're like,
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  they're not paying rent, they'll live around me.
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  Exactly. And then cut to your like
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  cleaning up vomit like whatever you need.
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  Anything Well, it's so funny because I, I mean, my listeners,
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  I'm sure have heard me say it a million times that, that it's so
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  much. So I did not expect it to be so
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  different from nannying. Like, obviously parts of it are
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  very similar, like the day-to-day.
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  Stuff. But the like common sense stuff
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  that I would have like with Audra and Calvin where it's
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  like, you know, I don't know. I mean, they were older by the
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  time I was with them. But like for babies, were you
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  like they'll eat when they're hungry and like they'll stop and
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  like I'll put them down for an like, I feel like it was so much
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  easier to say like no to stuff and then they would be like, OK,
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  I mean, you also have great children.
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  So they were. Well, you're.
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  Right. They were older, but yeah, yeah,
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  yeah. Yeah, but like saying no to
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  things and being like, you know, parents just really need to
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  stick to their guns. About them totally.
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  Totally. And now I'm like don't smile at
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  me because I will cave so easily.
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  Yeah. And the part of it, the child
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  knows that too. Like, you know, the the
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  phenomenon of like as the parent, you get a different kid
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  than other people get, right. Yeah.
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  At least that, that, that you know, they say like, like either
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  like Angel at school, devil at home, you know, or the other way
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  around. And but you'd rather have Angel
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  at school or Angel with the nanny and then the devil when
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  you're around. And like, I think it's, that's
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  what my kids words like sometimes when we would come
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  home from work or whatever that they, they're bad moods for that
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  moment, you know, because. Really worked out for me.
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  So I'm like, they are the, I mean, they are great.
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  They're good kids. They're just such good kids.
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  So now, I mean now, wow, you get to start.
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  No man, I know I was nearly an empty nester.
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  But going to Calvin and like us, Preston and I kind of being a
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  part of your story. So much of this episode is just
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  going to be like memory lane. But, but I remember when I first
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  started dating Preston, we had like our first like date.
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  And I'm sure I told Calvin like, oh, I'm going on a date tonight
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  or whatever. I don't know.
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  And so, but he like right off the bat was like, are you going
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  to marry him? Are you guys getting married?
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  And I was like, Calvin, will you calm down?
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  And he's 8. Yeah, and that's so Calvin.
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  Are you going? And he's like, well, me and my
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  girlfriend are probably getting here.
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  No, But he was like, are you guys getting married?
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  And I was like, I don't know. And, and then he was like, well,
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  are you, are you going to have a baby?
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  And he's like, well, I want you to have a baby so I can see what
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  you look like pregnant. And then and I was like Calvin.
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  And then he was like, well, your sister's pregnant, Your sister's
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  having married and having a baby.
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  And I was like, she's two years older than me.
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  And he goes, OK, well, two years ago he was like doing the math
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  and I was like, well, two years ago she got married and now
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  she's having a baby. So you should get married soon.
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  And then in two years, you'll have a baby.
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  Oh my God, that's so him. I mean like the.
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  Pressure is on. So funny.
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  Is that actually like one of the first times Preston came over?
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  We're like playing sorry or something.
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  I was helping Audrey or going to the bathroom or something.
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  He's like, have you guys kissed? Have you kissed him?
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  And he is like, I'm trying, man. And I was like, Preston is the
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  best answer ever. He's got lots of funny, like,
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  conversations he had with Preston that he still remembers.
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  And he's like, yeah, I remember Preppers Preston.
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  I were talking about like a movie that Preston didn't like,
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  that he didn't understand why Preston did like that kind of
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  thing, like. It would always get into the.
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  Yeah, Calvin and, and he just, he doesn't forget a thing and
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  he'll remember exactly where they were and.
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  Or when Calvin went, they went through the phase where anytime
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  Preston came they would like make a movie.
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  Right, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah, I like I remember the Home alone.
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  Yes, yes. How did this how did your
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  decision to have another one differ from because obviously
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  now you're with Ruth and have a new So was it just I mean, I
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  don't wanna. No, no, no, I understand what.
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  You're saying like, how was the decision different because now
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  you're also with another performer and obviously you both
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  are very successful and not the same as when you're like 20
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  coming out here, right? Yeah, no, it's, it was a
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  completely different kind of thing.
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  I mean, with Calvin and Audrey, you know, like I said, we, Molly
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  and I always kind of had a kind of a plan, you know, we and part
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  of our plan was also like what we just assumed you did, you
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  know what I mean? There was like, you get married,
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  you buy a house, you have a child, you know what I mean?
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  It was like this, these sort of life Marks and we always knew we
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  would have a family and we got lucky.
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  We had a boy and a girl, both healthy and you know what I
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  mean? It was a perfect little family.
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  And so it was different in the early, my early 30s, deciding to
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  have children. It was just kind of like that's
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  what you did. And you didn't just have one,
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  you had two. And you know what I mean?
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  That was the second of mine. And we're really blessed.
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  Like it was, it's such, it was such a a great unit, family
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  unit. And and so, you know, yeah.
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  Fast forward, you know, Molly and I were married for 24 years
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  and, and we're still really good friends and we all get along
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  really well. And, and Molly has a new partner
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  and, and, and, and then I and I have a new partner and, and
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  Ruth, like I said, is a performer.
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  But so Ruth had never had kids and, you know, she said she'd
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  like to try. And I was like, you know, I love
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  her so much. I want her to at least feel like
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  she tried, you know what I mean? And not like go under 50s and go
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  like, I wish I would have tried. I want, I wanted to at least
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  have that. And it worked and it, and I was
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  like, wow, OK, we're doing, it's happening.
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  You know, we talked about it for a long time.
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  It was more than it was more than just like it happened.
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  You know, we talked about it and planned it and, you know, but I,
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  I, to be honest, I, I didn't, I didn't think it would, you know,
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  I didn't think it would work. And it, it was sort of this
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  miracle child, you know, which puts a sort of a new flavor on
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  it, you know? And yeah, it was so it was, it
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  was actually completely different because the first
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  time, like I said, we were, we're young.
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  This is kind of what you do. We were the first of all my
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  friends to have kids because like everyone, everyone was
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  career driven. Everyone who comes out to LA is
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  like that. Like for my Midwestern friends,
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  I was old, having kids. But.
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  But out. But here, out here it was.
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  I was the first. So yeah.
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  So it's completely different now.
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  You know, we're kind of like it was, it's this new like, like I
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  never would imagine that my life had gone would go the way that
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  it ended up going, you know, And to be doing it again now in 53
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  and to be, you know, a father again, it's wild, but but
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  exciting, you know. So I guess that that's the major
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  difference is like, I'm like, wow, I, I, I don't, I can't even
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  predict any. Like this is crazy.
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  You know what I mean? This is uncharted waters.
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  And you know, and, you know, I have a 20 year old and a, a
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  newborn. It's, you know, crazy.
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  But you know, part of, like I said, the fact that it's sort of
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  she's kind of a miracle. And then also and also to see
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  Ruth so happy, you know, but also like Calvin and Audrey are
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  super excited about it and. That's seeing pictures with
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  them, with her. I was like, you guys, I cannot
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  handle this. Yeah.
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  It's crazy. Is it easy for the two of you?
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  Is there any like resentment there?
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  Not I feel like I'm using terrible wording, but like, you
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  know, obviously, thankfully you both are like working but right
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  there, because I'm trying to think from her perspective, was
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  she like, yeah, fine, go. I mean, are you like obviously,
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  I would assume you're supportive of each other because you are.
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  Completely because you know, that that's the thing.
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  I think there, there there might have been a little resentment in
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  my previous relationship because, you know, her job was
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  so steady and, and here, you know, and I'm a little bit like,
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  you know, all over the place and like never quite, you know, and
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  maybe sometimes when I had a job out of town, it was perceived
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  that was just going to go party and it was not, you know what I
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  mean? And maybe it's also a little bit
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  our age now, but but no, it's, it's really there's no
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  resentment. I mean, her first response when
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  I got this job and like 4 weeks ago, she was like, Oh my God,
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  that's amazing. And I'm the one going like,
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  yeah, but how are we going to make it work?
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  You know? So she was, I think as an actor,
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  especially these days, because it's different than it used to
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  be, you know, every time you get a job, it's like, yay, I'm
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  awesome. You know, it's right.
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  So, so yeah, so it was, it's, no, it was.
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  Fortunately there's no resentment because that's a big
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  deal. I think you don't want that in a
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  relationship. It's because that that can
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  create trouble. So no, that that's not there.
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  It's just more the stress of like making it all work, just
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  making like, how OK, how are we going to do it?
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  But we knew going in that that was going to be a challenge.
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  We knew, OK, you know, I tried to tell.
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  I tried to tell her like it's, you know, it's not easy, you
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  know? Yeah.
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  But it's, you know, so we knew going in it was going to be a
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  challenge, but yeah. My last question that I like to
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  ask everyone is at the moment, what is your lifesaver?
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  And I like I always say, I'm like, it can be a quote, it can
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  be a baby product, it can be. Oh, I see.
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  Yeah, it can be a person. No, it can be a person.
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  I always say Preston. I'm always like I don't know
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  what I. Would do, yeah.
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  I mean, like, honestly, for me, it's, it's, you know, I mean,
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  the, the people to me, it's honestly it's, it's my, my, my
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  village, you know what I mean? It takes a village and it really
• 22:44
  is my village. I mean, my, my older children
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  have been so great and, and, and Ruth is so amazing.
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  And now this new baby. And then, you know, shout out to
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  like my closest friends who've been so great during this time
• 22:58
  that such a crazy transitional time.
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  I mean, having a baby for anybody at any age is, is a
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  huge, huge, huge, huge thing that takes a minute, you know,
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  to get, you know, I'm still right now I'm like, not even
• 23:11
  100%. Like I'm in the clouds a bit.
• 23:13
  And so having that village has really been a lifesaver.
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  We, I've got like my best friend down the street, Hank and his
• 23:20
  wife Pam have been so great. You know, they've just, they've
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  been the people that come by with soup and, you know, and you
• 23:28
  can be in a bad mood around and it doesn't matter, you know,
• 23:30
  people like that. It's no.
• 23:33
  I I bet it's nice to have people that are like that have most a
• 23:40
  lot of them been through it and have kids already because you
• 23:45
  don't know what you don't know because like friends of mine
• 23:49
  that have babies at 23, I was like, cool, see ya.
• 23:52
  I can't help. Like I'm looking back.
• 23:54
  I'm like now I'm like, oh, I know how I can help.
• 23:57
  And it's not to ask you how I can help.
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  It's to like you said, just bring soup.
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  Just. Yeah, and and.
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  Make you delegate. Yeah.
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  And so it's a big deal, you know, that different people have
• 24:11
  different reactions because of what's going on in their life or
• 24:13
  whatever it is, you know, but sometimes certain friends will
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  just really step up and be like, hey, this is what you need right
• 24:19
  now. And it's it's a really a
• 24:20
  blessing to have that. So yeah, I would say my village
• 24:24
  has been my lifesaver for sure. Oh my God.
• 24:28
  OK, well I'm going to keep bugging you and texting you
• 24:34
  until I get to meet this baby in person.
• 24:38
  And I know I've been incessantly texting you and I'm so grateful
• 24:45
  for you taking your time and doing doing being a part of
• 24:48
  mommy would. I'm so excited to share your
• 24:51
  episode and it's so great to talk to you.
• 24:55
  It's so great to talk to you too, Emily.
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  You're such a big part of my family's, you know my family and
• 25:00
  still are. Thank you so much.
• 25:02
  For listening to this episode of Mommy Wood.
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