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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, August 19 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: US Jaguar's Football any extra point by John Tarny. I
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  Speaker 1: am god that it is a Monday, August. This is
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  Speaker 1: jack Lars Happy Hour, Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet
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  Speaker 1: Home Loans and now a guy who expects to take
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  Speaker 1: all the snaps in today's program, J Pece. Welcome in
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans, J P Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, and Jacksonville. CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco.
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  Speaker 1: Down in South Florida. It's dress rehearsal week, gentlemen. How
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  Speaker 1: are you doing, Tony? What's up doing good? You know?
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  Speaker 1: It's uh, I'm looking I'm actually I can't hope I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying this. I'm looking forward to a preseason game because
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  Speaker 1: I want to see what this first offense looks like.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit concerned because I don't think either
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  Speaker 1: tackle is going to be out there, and after the performance,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Cam Robinson's playing. Do you. We'll delve
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  Speaker 1: into that a little bit. I mean, unless you know
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  Speaker 1: something I had, I will say in the media time.
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  Speaker 1: He's been out doing stuff. So it's only fifteen in
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  Speaker 1: a window, I know, but he has he done team
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  Speaker 1: yet don't know. Okay, that's closed to the I'll be
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  Speaker 1: shocked the way this team has progressed injuries and treating
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  Speaker 1: injuries this camp, which is super conservative. I would be
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  Speaker 1: surprised about that, and I don't. And it's Jawan Taylor
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  Speaker 1: back braxing. He's been doing some stuff but when it's open.
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  Speaker 1: But we don't know if he's being a team either.
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  Speaker 1: So now if those two are out there, it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be really exciting because that's your team. We don't know
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  Speaker 1: right the right guard who's gonna be there. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: it all this later, I mean high level is I'm
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  Speaker 1: excited to see Nick Foles. I'm excited everybody, uh a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. You're gonna get a taste of what d
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  Speaker 1: Filippo wants to do with them. You're not gonna see
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing. Get all the receivers out there. I
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  Speaker 1: imagine LETTERD for net well a couple snaps. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: just looking forward to that. I don't like preseason. I
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  Speaker 1: think they should do away with at least two. I'll
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  Speaker 1: be fine they get rid of all the preseason um,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm excited for this one, for whatever that's worth.
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  Speaker 1: Pete Prisco with us tonight. Pete, what's up? Are you
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  Speaker 1: as excited as Tony about this week? No? I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, but Sully is um is a cheery guy
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  Speaker 1: again like that er how m Sary, Shine and Rainbow.
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  Speaker 1: Pet my point of I disagree with you. I think
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  Speaker 1: as a Jack the Jaguar portion of your fandom or
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  Speaker 1: your media that used to you know, being the old
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  Speaker 1: beat writer, I think there's a piece of you that
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  Speaker 1: is excited to see what at least a glimpse of
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  Speaker 1: what this team will really look like opening day, because
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna see the first team unit at least you
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  Speaker 1: want to agree with you want, That's all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not excited about the preseason gay per se.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to see what they look like. Let's
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  Speaker 1: see Falsh. I mean, you were waving your palm bombs
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  Speaker 1: like you usually do on on a Monday. What palm
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  Speaker 1: homs is my way? Again? Can you tell me what
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  Speaker 1: pomp was playing? Please? Just let me know. Well, we
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  Speaker 1: take out one game at a time, whether it's the
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  Speaker 1: preseason or the regular seas never any maybe I should
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  Speaker 1: say one and half at a time. How long do
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  Speaker 1: you think you play this week to sell I think
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  Speaker 1: four to five series, so quarter and a half depending
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  Speaker 1: on the length of the I think it's more of
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  Speaker 1: a play count. Pete say thirty plays twenty five plays.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember when they used to say the first
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  Speaker 1: team had to experience half time to get so dumb?
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  Speaker 1: We used to say more things that make no sense anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, the third time adjustments come back out.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like to come back out, like, what do
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  Speaker 1: you mean? I've been doing this my entire life. And
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  Speaker 1: I always used to say, like in college, we never
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  Speaker 1: had preseason games, and I felt fine that first game.
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  Speaker 1: I knew exactly how to handle halftime too. I knew
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  Speaker 1: how to come out and play. Guess what happens after
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  Speaker 1: half time. You'll walk out of the locker room and
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  Speaker 1: go to the field. You play the second drink water
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  Speaker 1: door and practices back were used to have two days
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  Speaker 1: in full pads. I mean used to do bowl in
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  Speaker 1: the ring. I mean used to like it was a
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  Speaker 1: salt tablets. The game has evolved, obviously in the in
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  Speaker 1: the right way, except for unless you're Antonio Brown, you
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  Speaker 1: still want old helmets. The rest of us have evolved
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  Speaker 1: into better technology and better equipment. But I was staying
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  Speaker 1: on the field before the game last week Thursday, and
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  Speaker 1: Johnny Rembert and or some mobil we were there because
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  Speaker 1: they're the police for this, for the uniforms, and they
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  Speaker 1: were talking about how the three days they used to
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  Speaker 1: have back in the day, pads, special hit, beat each
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  Speaker 1: other up, special teams work, and then practice again in
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  Speaker 1: the afternoon. And they were saying, how easy every it
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  Speaker 1: is right now. So we used to full you know
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  Speaker 1: then you'd have walked throughs. I mean you did the
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  Speaker 1: mean meetings we'd started, you know, eight am or wake
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  Speaker 1: up with Trayton, let's say sixth dirty and you would
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  Speaker 1: go to ten o'clock at night. I mean it was
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  Speaker 1: a long day. It's a long day. Here's what we're
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  Speaker 1: getting to in the program tonight. Dress rehearsal week underway
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  Speaker 1: for the Jaguars in preseason week. Could this be the
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  Speaker 1: debut week of Nick Foles for the jack sounds like
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  Speaker 1: it could. Offensive lines settling a bit, that's good news.
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  Speaker 1: Will break all that down with Tony coming up. Defensive
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  Speaker 1: charters haven't seen many of those guys, but we should.
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  Speaker 1: This week we're gonna delve into some blinds, A blind
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  Speaker 1: side blocks controversy. Tony is angry. Yeah, I think everyone
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  Speaker 1: should be if they call it that way. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: into down. We'll go around the National Football League as well.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start with dress rehearsal week. Certainly for I didn't
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  Speaker 1: see in there no crosstalk, the fast talking segment tonight.
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  Speaker 1: That's I like the fast talking segment. We'll get to
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  Speaker 1: that next cross fire. Cross fire is what it's called.
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  Speaker 1: Make that in. We're not gonna force that in there
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  Speaker 1: every week. I thought it was. It's not sponsored, so
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  Speaker 1: it could be at some point, will be coming everyday
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  Speaker 1: thing as soon as we get sponsored. Dress rehearsal week.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly for the offense, the first team offense you really
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen, haven't seen at all in this preseason. You
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen the defensive first chance to for the new
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  Speaker 1: offense to go through a week routine. For Nick Bowles,
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  Speaker 1: it so similar to in season week is we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get during the preseason. So um, just fine tuning all
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  Speaker 1: the schedule and the details and what we're gonna go
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  Speaker 1: over and the installs, especially with a new offense and
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  Speaker 1: new players, is huge. It has been great so far.
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  Speaker 1: From me, just to get a feel of what we're
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  Speaker 1: you know, expectations are throughout the day when I gotta
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  Speaker 1: you know, when am I going to have time to
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  Speaker 1: do my extra film work? Like figuring out the schedule
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  Speaker 1: so we don't have to worry about that week one.
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  Speaker 1: So there's Nick Foles, the quarterback yesterday, in fact, he
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  Speaker 1: spoke with the media here at t I a bank Field.
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  Speaker 1: The routine, getting all the things down, meeting times and all.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine. I think it's important. Do I do think
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  Speaker 1: it's important. I mean, I'll make fun of the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the stuff and you know, coming out at halftime
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  Speaker 1: and all that nonsense that coaches used to sell all
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  Speaker 1: of us, including the fans and the media. Um, why
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  Speaker 1: this is so important and you have to have it
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  Speaker 1: the the practice, game week, the dress rehearsal. As far
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  Speaker 1: as getting your routine as a player, especially with new coaches,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's really important. I think Nick Foles laid
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  Speaker 1: it out perfectly, because you want to understand what you
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  Speaker 1: have to do and when you are going to do it,
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  Speaker 1: and when you have that free time and when you
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  Speaker 1: can fit in your workout or your rehab or your
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  Speaker 1: extra film work. You know how much do I need
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  Speaker 1: to take home after work, how early do I need
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  Speaker 1: to get there. Just a sense of how the coaches
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  Speaker 1: communicate the game plan, how we install things. All this
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  Speaker 1: is new because you have all new You have really
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  Speaker 1: a new staff on the offensive side as long, because
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  Speaker 1: the coordinators new. So he's gonna put his system in
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  Speaker 1: there and how he does it, new quarterback, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of new pieces. I think it's a critical week for
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  Speaker 1: this team, at least offensively. I haven't seen haven't seen
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  Speaker 1: any of that yet, but it's a inside the building.
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  Speaker 1: You're going through meetings for the first time. Really, you're
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  Speaker 1: installing a few things offensively, Pete, but you're not doing
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  Speaker 1: a whole true game plan. But you're doing more than
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  Speaker 1: you did in the week's previous here, Pete, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious to hear what Tony when Tony played. Did
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  Speaker 1: you guys actually put in a game plan in the
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  Speaker 1: third preseason game, because I've heard the teams don't do
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  Speaker 1: that as much anymore. A mini one like you go
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  Speaker 1: through installed, this is what we're gonna run. Here's the
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  Speaker 1: front you'd watch tape for the first time on the opponent.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this is the different fronts that you've seen,
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  Speaker 1: and this is how they This is their third down front,
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  Speaker 1: This is the packages. Here the blitz as we expect,
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  Speaker 1: just very high level, not peat into the minutia or
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  Speaker 1: the detail that you would get. Calm uh the regular
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  Speaker 1: season where it's so much information, is so much detail.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it's a light game plan I called
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  Speaker 1: game plan light is what we used to do. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm okay with that. That's a I mean for me,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, Tony, it gives him a chance to
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  Speaker 1: feel like it's a game week. And for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of guys, they haven't felt like a game week in
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  Speaker 1: a long time. I mean, and a lot of those
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  Speaker 1: guys haven't felt it would nobody, how about all those guys,
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  Speaker 1: none of those of sense. Offensive coordinator John D. Philippo
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  Speaker 1: wants to see the offense and move the ball, get
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  Speaker 1: some third downs, about some points, some red zone success
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  Speaker 1: which equals points as well for the O C offensively. Now,
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  Speaker 1: is this game gonna decide whether or not we have
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  Speaker 1: success as an offense this season? No, you don't put
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  Speaker 1: that much onus on anything in my opinion, but um,
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  Speaker 1: I think this will gauge where we are in terms
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  Speaker 1: of what where we need to smooth some things out
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  Speaker 1: from a communication standpoint, We've already done that. From a
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  Speaker 1: preparation standpoint, in terms of just the way we install,
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  Speaker 1: We've had to smooth some things out. So it's great.
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  Speaker 1: I love that Coach Maron's having us go through a
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  Speaker 1: test run in terms of a game planned it because
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  Speaker 1: I'm new and Nick's new, and yeah, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: new on this offensive side here. And you know, for
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  Speaker 1: John d Philippo, how big is this game Thursday night? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: I mean I agree with I agree with Coach d Philippo.
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  Speaker 1: It's like not gonna make or break anything that happens
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  Speaker 1: this season. I mean, you know what what's big for
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  Speaker 1: him is how much does he want to hear from
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  Speaker 1: the fans of the media if they have a bad performance.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, that's pretty much the consequence of having a
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  Speaker 1: tough week. Now, you're not playing against a very good
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  Speaker 1: Miami team neither, and so you would hope perfect world
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  Speaker 1: for them. Go get to d have three drives, you
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  Speaker 1: get first downs, and all three drives, two of them
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  Speaker 1: lead into the red zone where you score points some
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  Speaker 1: points and their extended drives and you get everyone out
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  Speaker 1: of there. It doesn't have to be perfect. You're like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I feel great. Worst case scenarios you have like four
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  Speaker 1: or three and outs, one jar you have to turn over,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you get one good drive, you know, near
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  Speaker 1: the end of the half, and you know, and starters
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  Speaker 1: are in and out and then you're like, Okay, that's
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  Speaker 1: not great. But either of those scenarios happened. And Pete,
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  Speaker 1: I think you'd agree. It's not gonna affect Week one
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  Speaker 1: and it's not gonna have anything to do with the
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  Speaker 1: outcome of that game. When Kansas City comes to t
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  Speaker 1: I a field, it's not gonna change if they don't
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  Speaker 1: cross midfield. You're here right, at least get across mid
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  Speaker 1: But you know what I'm say, It's not gonna matter
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  Speaker 1: in the big picture. No, but you'd still like to
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  Speaker 1: see something, some life, a little bit of life from
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  Speaker 1: the offense. I mean, come on, Tony, if they would
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  Speaker 1: like you said, four three at ounce and they didn't
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  Speaker 1: cross midfield, you'd go you'd be killing them. Don't say
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  Speaker 1: you wouldn't be. No, I didn't say I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: killing them. No, No, that's what I said. That's the
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  Speaker 1: only thing the Philippo has to be worried about it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean what the offense and everyone. I mean they
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  Speaker 1: have their own internal goals and what they want to accomplish,
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  Speaker 1: and they'll learn stuff whether it's good or bad, like
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  Speaker 1: he said, and they can make corrections. It's all great.
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  Speaker 1: The only downside is if it goes bad, is hearing
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  Speaker 1: from people like you, Pete and me and the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the media and the fans ripped them. My whole
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  Speaker 1: point though, and I gotta believe you agree with this.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't make any difference for week one. If you
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  Speaker 1: have a great thing or a poor thing, you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have time to work it out and adjustments are gonna
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  Speaker 1: be made and you can fix anything, or anything can
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  Speaker 1: go wrong as well if it goes really well before
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  Speaker 1: a week one. All this is is preparation for that
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  Speaker 1: first week. I agree with the preseason. You can't cauge
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  Speaker 1: in anything the preseason and what it looks. But but
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  Speaker 1: you'd like to see rhythm, yes, And you know, we
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  Speaker 1: talked Doug Moron talked about how he's got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of reps for his players in practice against each other.
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  Speaker 1: But Tony, you know it's not the same. I've said
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  Speaker 1: it all along Pete. We've had these arguments. You know,
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  Speaker 1: log him and takes the other side. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: where JP sits in this whole thing. My thing is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, practice is not the same as the game,
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  Speaker 1: even the preseason. I don't care. I mean, even if
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  Speaker 1: it's the same guys over and over, doesn't the entire summer.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean well, here's the other thing. I'll just
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  Speaker 1: speak for an offensive lineman. Maybe the receivers in the quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 1: they can get their timing and all that junk in practice.
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  Speaker 1: I'm never I've never once, I'm never once blocking a
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  Speaker 1: guy in practice that is trying to finish the play
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  Speaker 1: and get to the quarterback and hurt the quarterback. But
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  Speaker 1: as soon as you get to the preseason, those guys
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  Speaker 1: are trying to finish the play and get to the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback and hit him. So that changes a dynamic of
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  Speaker 1: finishing plays. At no point during practice in my run
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  Speaker 1: blocking and as I'm going up and working the next
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  Speaker 1: level and trying to finish guys, is that guy trying
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  Speaker 1: to make a tackle, get through me and nail the
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  Speaker 1: running back. I mean, it's there's something at the end
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  Speaker 1: that you can't replicate in practice. Unless you go full speed,
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  Speaker 1: and nobody goes full speed anymore. No, obviously we've talked
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  Speaker 1: about this, as you said, but Dougs trying to get
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  Speaker 1: his team as healthy as he can to the starting
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  Speaker 1: line of the season. Okay, and I go back, and
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  Speaker 1: this is my contention. Two years ago, they had the
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  Speaker 1: hardest camp in a long time. They had zero injuries
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  Speaker 1: all year. One game Telvin Smith and missed two games
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  Speaker 1: for the concussion. That was it. Everyone else played nothing else.
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  Speaker 1: Last year they had the same style of camp. They
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  Speaker 1: really only had one major injury during camp, and that
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  Speaker 1: was Marquis Lee in a games, not practice. In a game.
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  Speaker 1: Had nothing to do with camping hard or not. He
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  Speaker 1: took a helmet to the knee. You could add walk
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  Speaker 1: throughs all of camp and he still blown his knee
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  Speaker 1: ot in that play. And they end up having a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of injuries throughout the year though, Yes, okay, so
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  Speaker 1: are you telling me it's because they had the hard camp,
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  Speaker 1: because the year before it didn't affect them at all.
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  Speaker 1: Now you have this easy camp or easier and they
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  Speaker 1: probably have more injuries this camp. This is the first
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  Speaker 1: time the offensive lines went on the field and they
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  Speaker 1: have had in any other camp, and so I don't
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  Speaker 1: buy because I've seen even back Pete, when I was playing,
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  Speaker 1: you had the majority of teams had really physical camps,
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  Speaker 1: but you always had those, you know, player coaches, the
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  Speaker 1: easier camps, the West Coast style whatever. Like you measure
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  Speaker 1: injuries at the end of the year. I mean it
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  Speaker 1: kind of. It's just I think they're random at some point.
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  Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think, And if they're not random,
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  Speaker 1: I would actually attribute what you do from February until
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  Speaker 1: July as more important than what happens in July. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but Tony, Tony, remember the old Jimmy Johnson teams and
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  Speaker 1: were like your Cofflin teams. They used to beat the
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  Speaker 1: daylights out of each other, remember, and then there was you,
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  Speaker 1: Like you mentioned the other theory where you don't do
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  Speaker 1: that and and both both both worked at times in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. I agree. But you know what it comes
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  Speaker 1: down to, Pete's whose who stays healthy? And I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure one leads to being more healthy during
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  Speaker 1: the season than the other. But but playing in does
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  Speaker 1: playing in a game, isn't it? Like the Chargers lost
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  Speaker 1: Derwin James in a practice last week I mean you
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  Speaker 1: can get hurt anywhere, right, Pete, you're singing the same
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  Speaker 1: song I'm singing. I mean, that's exactly right. I've been
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  Speaker 1: saying that. And so, by the way, I did see
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  Speaker 1: I did see Coughlin last week when I was there,
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  Speaker 1: and I said, oh, man, I remember the days when
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  Speaker 1: this team wasn't soft and guys actually played the preseason.
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  Speaker 1: He shoot me away, let's come back. He didn't like that. No,
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  Speaker 1: I did. It's like the old days, Prisco and Coughlin
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  Speaker 1: We look forward to, you know, seeing how they've progressed.
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  Speaker 1: They've got a lot of reps in practice, um, but
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  Speaker 1: them out on the grass. How much they're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: We can do a show without you. We've done it before,
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  Speaker 1: are my sidekicks is and let's keep going. Oh my god,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: if that head gets any bigger, it's going to be
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: an eight and three eights instead of an eight and
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  Speaker 1: one eighth. The biggest bust helmet, by the way, uh,
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  Speaker 1: seven and seven eights ya later in your career is
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  Speaker 1: probably your head filled out. I have a seven and
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  Speaker 1: seven eights. Like we know the fitted Uh can I
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• 21:41
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  Speaker 1: is a seven and seven eights. My helmet was a
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  Speaker 1: seven and seven eights. Yeah, but the fitted like you're
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  Speaker 1: wearing that hat you're wearing above, you wear weigh above
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  Speaker 1: the kyle of corpor brown. Look, Look, it's seven and
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  Speaker 1: seven eights. That's what I wear. That's a large. This
• 21:58
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  Speaker 1: in church they want to pass around to fill that thing. Obvious,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of room. Hey, Pete, I mean, I
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: don't want to say anything, but for someone who's five five.
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  Speaker 1: You're not very well proportioned yourself. I mean you've got
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  Speaker 1: a big head, A big I got a very little head,
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  Speaker 1: to be honest. Well maybe it just looks big because
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  Speaker 1: how fat you are on your fat cheeks. No, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: it used to be a lot bigger when I had
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  Speaker 1: hair on the air back. I mean you are literally
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  Speaker 1: I saw you on the field. You're as wide as
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  Speaker 1: you are tall. Wrong you are when you made your
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: crack into my camera about how they go a little lower? Yeah, yeah,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: he was on the air, so I came over. He
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: was filming for CBS something whatever the nine stations he's
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  Speaker 1: on at CBS, and uh, he was sitting there and
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  Speaker 1: bit if you're gonna make sure you get him or
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  Speaker 1: on a box. Yeah. Defensively, Here, let's move on, okay,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: tho the other side of the football here. How much
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: of the starters do you need to see? How many
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: guys you need to see? How long do you need
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: to see them? On Thursday night? I don't need to
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: see class. I don't need to see Jalen. I don't
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  Speaker 1: need to see Unique. I don't need to see boy A.
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  Speaker 1: I don't need to see Marcel Darius. Those guys, no,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. Stay in the sideline, don't put your jerseys on.
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  Speaker 1: I don't need to see him. Well, I'm not going
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: to see them, I asked class. Campbell locker room said
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: how much time? I asked him, how much time do
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: you need? He's like, I don't need any time, but
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I would want sometime. I don't need I could have
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: played Opening Day with zero preseason game. I've done it
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: before my rookie year. I never I did have one
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: preseason game, came off surgery and started no when I
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: was following your different cat though, Well, but so is Jalen.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I mean those are different cats. They don't need it.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Why would even risk it? Would you play? This is
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: where I actually agree with the whole movement of like
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: from the beginning, I would agree with Doug Marone, don't
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: play those guys. I would have played Nick Foles in
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: that group earlier because I think they need reps. Yeah,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: but those guys didn't have the private plane flying him
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: back before. What does that have to do with anything,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: because that doesn't try start in their view, bring up
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: what did they serve on that plane? They remember? You
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: know the funny thing about that, I don't remember flying.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: So just to get background for everyone listening, if you
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: haven't heard the fifty times, brings this up. Whatever show is.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I got hurt my rookie year in training camp and
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: several guys got hurt. Everyone else had to fly commercial
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: back to Jacksonville. I flew on Wayne Weaver's jet. That's
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: the big that's the big joke. But it's not a joke.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: It's it's a fact. It's not joke, it's fact. But
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the funny thing is, I remember flying from Jacksonville back
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: to Steven's Point. I have zero recollection, and I'm God's
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: honest truth. I know I flew on it. I have
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: no recollection from flying from Steven's Point to Jacksonville for surgery,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: like zero. I don't know. It's like it did not
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  Speaker 1: exist in my brain, like I remember. I remember. Probably
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: he was also concussed, concussed everything, whatever you want to say,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: dropped up. I mean, maybe it was in your career
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: to be concussed. Well, yeah, I'm not let's not go
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: down to the the concussion, because I'll start saying things that
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I regret and I'll get in trouble with everybody. And
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: so let just put it out there. You're on Viking
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: in and you don't remember going on I don't know
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: if I was on Viking and I don't remember anything
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: about that trip back. You're a smart guy. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: telling you. I don't remember being on the plane. I
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  Speaker 1: remember flying back with other people. To Stephen's point, I
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: don't remember. I don't remember. I don't know why how
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: we got him this point on the show. Fine, I
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: play that you got special treatment and nobody else perfect.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: It still happens today. But I'm finally And here's the
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: other thing. If I was a coach, if I was
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: a GM, if I was an owner, I would be
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: upfront like, yeah, I treat people differently, like I'm gonna
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: treat Clayss different than I treat I wouldn't play Jalen.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't play a J. I wouldn't play and go
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  Speaker 1: way Unique. Would you play Unique? No? Probably not. No.
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  Speaker 1: Miles Jack. I would play Miles Jack. Yes, I would
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  Speaker 1: play for net Pay the running back because he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a part of this passing game in a big
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: way in my position, in my opinion, and you need
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: some timing with the quarterback. I would I would agree
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  Speaker 1: with you. Normally you wouldn't play Not just to see
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  Speaker 1: him run the ball, No, I don't care about that,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: but the passing game and what they want to do,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: he's a part of it. I would play him. We're
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: touching on defense here Josh Allen's first two games as
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: a proto last week. There's a clip right after the
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: game on Twitter throwing the right tackle the Eagles, and
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: then the rest of the game we're showing it on jaguarstuck.
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  Speaker 1: Don't remember. I was like really excited after this place
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: and like, oh he's in a big game, and I
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: don't remember anything else happening. He got blocked, I guess
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: the rest of the most of the day after that.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: But how has his preseason been as a whole? And
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: what else do you want to see from Josh Allen?
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I want to see him win and get home. I
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: have not seen him hit the quarterback yet. I don't
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: think now. I haven't watched all the tape, so maybe
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: he did a few times. He's played the run well.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I mean he's a big he's a good player, but
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: what you want to see is him get home. In
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: the past and granted he hasn't had a bunch of opportunities,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: it's not like they've had a bunch of third longs
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: and like, you know, pay your years back and go
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  Speaker 1: get the quarterback situations. I'd like to see that and
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: that's it. I want to see that. I want to
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: see him hit the quarterback. That's what do he's here for.
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  Speaker 1: What about you, like, not just Alan, but defensively of
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: this group. I mean, if they have some of these
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: guys in there, which you don't think they should play them,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: but if they do happen to go out there, Um,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: what is a good night for this defensive line? Pete
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: on Thursday night? If they're out there. If they're out there,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: just show pressure. I mean, you gotta be able to
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: personal quarterback. In this league. The Miami's offensive line isn't
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  Speaker 1: very good. I'll be honestly, there's a lot of kids
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: on that line, so I think you'll be able to
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: pressure the quarterback. If it's Patrick can't move. I mean
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: he's he tries to move, but he's not very mobile.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. For me, I think the success
• 28:32
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• 28:34
  Speaker 1: the quarterback. Pete. Who's left on that offensive line beside
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Laramie Tuncil. It's across the well. Davis is playing right tackle. Now.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Remember he played some guard last year. So like I mean,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Pouncies are gone. Pouncy's gone. He was gone last year. Yeah,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Pouncy was gone. They got I mean, they let go
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: about James and they're not very good. And is um
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick going to be the starter? He's beat at Rosen
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: right now he has Yeah, so it's Rosen. Start the
• 29:01
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• 29:04
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• 29:09
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• 29:14
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• 29:17
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• 29:19
  Speaker 1: would you would say right now, yes, but if but
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  Speaker 1: Dieter you remember him from Wisconsin, Tony big kid physical, Yeah, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: The ends are a little bit of a question, right, Um,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Jeff Swain's not out there right now. Swain. Josh Oliver
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  Speaker 1: has been and he's been back on the field, but
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  Speaker 1: who knows to what extent, Mr rookie, but he was
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  Speaker 1: doing well. The mystery though what he's doing actually so
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  Speaker 1: right now, you've got O'Shaughnessy, koyak um, Charles Jones is
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  Speaker 1: injured right now, the rookie, undrafted guy who's doing well
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  Speaker 1: was the Wolf and Carson Meyer and like that, it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was. It was a group that I felt okay about.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was better than last year's group, which
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  Speaker 1: is saying a lot um before all the injuries. Like Swain,
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  Speaker 1: nice move, tight end, knows how to use his body.
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  Speaker 1: Not a great blocker, but can get open. I think
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: will be a nice middle of the field threat. Oliver
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: stretched the field, seam guy, matchup issues, another move guy okay,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Charles Jones, good blocker, rookie, you worry about a little
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: bit O'Shaughnessy kind of that all around guy. I figured
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: those of four guys, you can live with it. You're okay.
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  Speaker 1: It's not great, it's not terrible. It's better than last year.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Now with injuries, it's a train wreck. Train wreck, it's
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: a train wreck. Yes, you're not subtle at all. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it is. It's bad group. You have four guys.
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  Speaker 1: You have four guys that came off the street. They're playing.
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  Speaker 1: There's they're hoping that their body. Sounds like Oliver is
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  Speaker 1: going to be back for week one. That's the hope. Okay,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: here's a guy who's not played at all ever. Third
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: round guy, what's Swayne's injury? I'll find out, but it
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: can't be major though. I don't think it's major, right, No,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I mean no, yeah, he should be back. It's a
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: train wreck for this week, don't pete. I keep on
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: getting I get what you're saying. But how many times
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I start getting worried when there's a bunch of guys
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: that you're saying, oh, yeah, but they'll be back for
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: week one, like if it's one or two guys. But
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: now we're like, oh yeah, Cam, we'll be back, Yeah, yeah,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Quincy Williams will be back, Okay, yeah, Jeff Swain will
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: be back. Oh, Oliver will be back. Juwan Taylor, Okay,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: he'll be back. Like all of a sudden, you start
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: listing all these guys that are going to be back,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: and if they're back, they haven't been working. They've been working,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: and they're young, right, so that worries me. I'm not saying, okay,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: it's great, it's good. It's better than not being back.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: By the way, if you get three of them back,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, three of them are capable of playing at
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: the same level, then you'll be okay with that. But
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: you're right, Oliver's never played in the NFL game. He
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: doesn't know what it feels like. It's a lot to
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: ask for a young guy like Swain. I'm not worried
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: about him. If he's back, he's playing him, He'll be fine,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: no big deal. Is fine. But like Charles Jones, who's
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: our best blocker, at least in the preseason, I'm not
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: sure it's saying a lot. It's undrafted, rookie, free agent.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure makes the club now. He might be
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: a practice squad guy because of the injuries Philipigoland two
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: days ago, Jeff Swam and Charles Jones not stretching with
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: a team. No boot for Swam, so lower leg is
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: sound injury. I think he'll be fine. But how cautious
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: are they be with these guys instead of you know
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: what I mean, like just with the regular season, would
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: he be out there working or something. It's a great
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: question based on what we've heard from Doug this year
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: and how he's approaching camp, or just the overall philosophy.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I would say they're very cautious, wouldn't you. That's all.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: That's all we can go by. They don't tell us anything,
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  Speaker 1: and I wouldn't tell us anything either if I was dog. Well,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: like a tailor's tailor's injury is a knee right the bank,
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  Speaker 1: he stepped on somebody stepped on his leg or something,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: and that would happen. Then he like he got rolled
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  Speaker 1: into a little bit weird and then like tripped them
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  Speaker 1: the ground. Well, that shouldn't be anything for long term. Well,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I would have thought he'd be back already. It's been
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: two weeks. He's been out there this week and you know,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: so is he playing that? I don't know. Open I'm
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  Speaker 1: like to find out he's in the practice. He should
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  Speaker 1: be He should be playing this week. If all he
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  Speaker 1: did was banging that in the underground, he should be
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: playing this Well, that's what the hope is, but we
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: don't know. Pete that's my that's my point because everyone
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: everyone listen to him today by the offensive coordinating on
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback, was that it sounded positive. Okay, great, say
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  Speaker 1: that that's great. I mean, Jimmy Luck is gonna be
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  Speaker 1: on here with us pretty soon, the equipment manage. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: if like threaten his job at risk his job to
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: tell us what happened on the even though he's not
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  Speaker 1: allowed to. I know we were talking tight ends, but
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I wanted to ask Tony this because this is something
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  Speaker 1: you can address. How important is it for five guys
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: to work together at some point during camp, in the
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  Speaker 1: preseason before the opener? Um, Yeah, it's you'd rather have
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  Speaker 1: it than not. The more veteran they are, the less
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  Speaker 1: important it is. Um, your rookie year was you didn't
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  Speaker 1: work with those guys. I mean it was fine. I
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  Speaker 1: mean but now you were, but you were you were different,
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  Speaker 1: You're different. But like I think it's for comfort and communication. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's important. The more you do it, the
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  Speaker 1: better it is. Because you can communicate clear, you understand
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  Speaker 1: what to expect, especially for young guys, and especially because
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  Speaker 1: you have a whole new offense in there. I think
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: it's important, is it, like, are they going to stop
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: the season? Like, oh my gosh, I'm panicking. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That's dogs and cats like I mean in the streets.
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• 40:51
  Speaker 1: job to continue running back room weird From John d. Filippo, today,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator with the Jacksonville Jaguars. The question, of course
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: is what do you want to see? How to Leonard
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: for that on Thursday night? But really, what do you
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: expect from Leonard for that this entire season? I'm still
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: learning that with Leonard in terms of again, i'll know
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: a little bit more after this week, in terms of
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: how many plays he gets winded in and all those
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: things in a game like atmosphere. Um, but I know
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Leonard's goals. Leonard's goals are to be uh is to
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: be the best back in this league, okay, and unique
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: star players play a lot of football, okay, so to
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: me um, he needs to play. The question going into
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: that belief in Philip Haiman was, you know, do you
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: worry about reps first and second down when you're trying
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: to figure out the third down reps and all? He's
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: like that. That was the answer that hey, Leonard for
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: that is the guy. Guys play a lot of snaps
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: if their starts. Well, listen, here's the deal. You want
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: to be you want to be the bell cow back,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: you want to be the stud, you want to be
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: the man. Then you're out there all the time. I mean, zekey.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Elliott is out there all the time. He might get
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: a breather of a series here or there, or a
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: couple of plays here there. But it's his team, you know,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: the best. But Todd Gurley, before he heard his knee,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: it was his team. He was. Teams are moving away
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: from that, Tony, No, not not with not the starbacks.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Peat they're not well, I mean starback. You met Elliott.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I agree with you on Elliott, Todd Curley, Barkley not
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Gurley now starts flitting Okay because he has a knee,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: say coom Barkley the man, he's out there. What about
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon? Yes, he was last year. He got all
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: the work. He was the man before he got so
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: he go look at not a bell. Cow is one
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: of those guys. I didn't say I thought that. I'm saying,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: if that's what, If that's what for Nett wants to be.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: What d Filippo saying is right. That guy is on
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: the field, he's not looking tapping his helmet, saying I
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: need to come out. I would agree with that. He
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: wanted to be the man, then you got to act
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: like the man. Now I'm not suck And maybe that's
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: what len for that is now that's not what he
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: was last year. Maybe maybe that's where he is at now.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: That'd be great. That would help this team. It would
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: be a better team if that's the style back that
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: letter Ford that is. I got the impression that Philippo
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: was talking about playing him this week. Yeah he is.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: I think I think Leonard play. You should play like.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I don't mean to break it everybody, but why wouldn't
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: you play him? Has he done something that I've missed?
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Like you just said, you just compared him to Zeke
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Elliott I didn't know. I did not. Now you're lying,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: you're being disingenuous. If you want to be that guy,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: go look at Christian McCaffrey. Look how many snaps that
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: kid takes regular and regular season. Pete, Now you're being
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: a smartass. Let's go come on, let's not be he
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: needs to carry the ball more Christie McCaffrey. But is
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: he out there all the time? Yes, all the time.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: That's what that position. You want to be the man,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: that's how you do it. I'm I'm with you. If
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be the guy, you gotta carry the football.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: But I think more and more teams are moving away
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: from that because I don't think there aren't that many guys. Okay,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: that's fine, but not moving away from it because they
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: want to move away from it. They're moving away from
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: it because there's not that many guys who can do it.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Can he do it? Well, we'll find out, I hope.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: So that's what you drafted him to do. I'm asking
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: you the question. Can you don't know? I hope? So
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: do you think you can't? I don't know, I hope.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: So he's dancing around it, I'm not dancing. Say that's
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: why Shaking drafted him. They felt that on the underside
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: of New Zealand, just when you were dancing around there.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Come on, Tony, you don't you have your doubts. Sure
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: of my doubts. I didn't. That doesn't mean I don't
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: hope he can do it. I haven't seen it. I
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: have my doubts. I haven't seen it. I hope what
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: we've seen so far from him, including his rookie year,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: does not give any indication that he is that kind
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: of guy. No, sord argue. Let's see it moving forward, though.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Let's come back real quick about that. You want to talk.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I want to talk more about backs when we come back,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: because I think I'll just say this and if we
• 45:14
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• 45:17
  Speaker 1: a position and I thought about it Thursday night watching
• 45:20
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• 45:22
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• 45:25
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• 45:32
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  Speaker 1: This music on Wednesdays on this program on Jaguars dot
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  Speaker 1: Com means it's time for Jimmy Luck, head equipment manager
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  Speaker 1: to join us. Wait, it's Monday. Why are we doing Wednesday?
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  Speaker 1: Because the team's in Miami on Wednesday afternoon when this
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  Speaker 1: show is on the air and Jimmy will be in Miami.
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  Speaker 1: I'm hoping with the football tea. We'll see after this
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  Speaker 1: segment if he's still with the football team on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Luck with us tonight to unveil the uniforms for
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night's game. Hi, Jimmy, how you doing, good man?
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  Speaker 1: What's up? Man? Not much? I feel kind of priven
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  Speaker 1: like I like the minor league, get called up to
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  Speaker 1: the big club. Here with Tony and Pete hadn't been
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  Speaker 1: on with him before. I know, well, welcome, this is
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  Speaker 1: what we have to deal with on Monday Nights. So
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  Speaker 1: there you go, Mmy. I'll make it quick before we
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  Speaker 1: get to the Jersey. Can we ask Jimmy some questions
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  Speaker 1: whatever you'd like, Jimmy, I think everyone like No. I
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  Speaker 1: think this is gonna be an official Monday Night segment.
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy tells the truth. Um, what's going on? Who's practicing?
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  Speaker 1: You know the you know the rules are and I
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  Speaker 1: don't think I have anything to worry about because Doug
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  Speaker 1: does not listen to the show. We know Tom doesn't listen.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Do you think Tom listens? Okay, Tom, will you please
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  Speaker 1: stop listening for the next fifteen minutes because we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: break all the rules. Well, Doug knows when when I'm
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  Speaker 1: on because he always gives me a hard time about it.
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  Speaker 1: Or can you tell us? You know, what's the status?
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  Speaker 1: What's the real scoop about Joan Taylor? You know Cam
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  Speaker 1: Robinson coming off the pup last week? He an individual,
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  Speaker 1: we're not out there now. We don't know if he's
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  Speaker 1: doing team Can you, you know, tell us what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: You know, are these guys gonna start. You can ask
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  Speaker 1: a question. Can you let us know are they practicing
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  Speaker 1: with team? Tick on? Okay? Is Cam Robinson with the team?
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  Speaker 1: Start playing with the team. He is here today because
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  Speaker 1: I watched jersey he was he on? Was he in
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  Speaker 1: team activities? He had a dirty jersey? That's all I know.
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  Speaker 1: Answer practice, Jimmy Luck says, Cam Robinson's jersey is dirty.
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  Speaker 1: We will take that as he is playing. It was wet,
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  Speaker 1: but it was that's fine, it was. We're getting nothing
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  Speaker 1: out of this, that's okay. All right, Let's get to
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  Speaker 1: the big reason. Information. You have a lot of good information.
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  Speaker 1: You should like start like a secret Twitter and just
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  Speaker 1: start putting account burner accounts what it's not a secret
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  Speaker 1: at more. He just told everybody no one will know
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  Speaker 1: what the burner the name is. It's a good idea.
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  Speaker 1: Figure it out, wouldn't they, Tony No, See when I
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  Speaker 1: was when I was covering team, he was going to
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  Speaker 1: miss Eli and he tell me everything that's not true,
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  Speaker 1: deep throat. You continue to make up stuff, and your
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: credibility as a journalist is going away quickly. Not that
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  Speaker 1: you have much, it's leaving quickly, though, Jimmy, you used
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  Speaker 1: to tell me stuff. I tell you you're ugly, and mmy,
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  Speaker 1: you told me a bunch of stuff. I told you
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  Speaker 1: were short, you're fat. No, no, you gave me information.
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  Speaker 1: Never want see because he doesn't want to admit that
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  Speaker 1: now I never did this far removed from because he's
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  Speaker 1: afraid of I'm not afraid of Tom. I respect Tom,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm We've got two friend, Jimmy, if you would, please, sir,
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  Speaker 1: give us what the Jaguars are wearing Thursday night against
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  Speaker 1: the Miami Dolplins. Please, this is big news. Oh, look
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  Speaker 1: at this, we got the black bridges. Told these up
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  Speaker 1: very nice? These are like nice. Look at these things,
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  Speaker 1: you know, these are much nicer than where's all like
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  Speaker 1: the scenes and everything. Remember the old days, Jimmy, they
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  Speaker 1: were so uncom Oh, the big thick thing. They'd be
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  Speaker 1: all bunched up, uncomfortable. These are like tights. I look good.
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  Speaker 1: Those are not your size. I'd look good. Look at
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  Speaker 1: the atlastic. Where's the belt belt? He doesn't wear a belt.
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  Speaker 1: We used to have belts. Brandon Lender does not wear
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  Speaker 1: about Look at this Brandon White down to South Florida
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night in his home area. How many snaps is
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  Speaker 1: he gonna play, Jimmy, he'll probably play. We're gonna go
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  Speaker 1: a position by Wait a second, this isn't right. I
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  Speaker 1: got lenders. He's a small that's what that means. It's short?
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  Speaker 1: Oh short? Oh? Are these are these legal? They cover
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  Speaker 1: his knees. They cover his knees. There you go. This
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  Speaker 1: is exactly the size i'd wear? What size? I'm a
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  Speaker 1: thirty six? What have we started here, Pete? I would
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  Speaker 1: look at these These are so much the old bunched
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  Speaker 1: up belt places and two inchest thing. It was terrible,
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  Speaker 1: would have been great. Things are going on an offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: If you put that on and making a seventy one,
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  Speaker 1: you might start next week. You know good. I would
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  Speaker 1: be in these pants beat That would be money on
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  Speaker 1: these pants. Seventy one is available. Ody's touched it, Jimmy,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much. Man on Monday, listen to this.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe this may or may not be your last Monday
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  Speaker 1: night show. We'll see. What about next week? We revealed
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  Speaker 1: the jersey on Monday night again, won't we We're home,
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  Speaker 1: so maybe we do it on Wednesday. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see. I think we should Monday. I think we
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  Speaker 1: should do a Jimmy Lux segment every Monday night. Tell
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  Speaker 1: us like, what's going on? Why did so many people
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: slip in the game? Bad shoes? I can I ask
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  Speaker 1: a question? You gotta go quick, No, gotta go No,
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  Speaker 1: we coach the quarterback Mint. You went out on the
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  Speaker 1: game on Thursday. Whose fault is that? Is that? George?
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  Speaker 1: a little bit earlier. Um, you know, at least than
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  Speaker 1: the sessions we've been able to see lately. Um, the
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: starters are back out there for the Jaguars on the
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: offensive line. It hasn't happened around here in a while.
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  Speaker 1: And the importance of that, I think, you know, we
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: heard from John d Filippo today and Nick Foles on
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  Speaker 1: line with some continuity, with a little bit of time together,
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  Speaker 1: Do you buy that, Tony, Yeah, I do. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's it's better than it not happening. We're seeing video
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: right now. It looks like Cam Robinson going through some
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: team activities that are on air. Interesting here a j
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: can working with the second group in the same drill
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: you saw. It's not from today, by the way, it's not. Well,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: it must have been because Cam Cam's out there. It's
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: not from today, never mind, it is from recently, a
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: day or two ago. Scratch all that. The good news
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: is Cam and Joan Taylor both out there working. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That's good. Now. We don't know
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: if they did team or not, because until the last
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: time we were on the field, Cam did not do team.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: He did just individual. Does he Does he play in
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Week one? I'm gonna say yes. I think I'm gonna
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: say yes to he's been out there long. It will
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: have been out there long enough that he can play. Absolutely.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: I think so. I he wants to play. Talking to Cam,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: this is not a situation where there he's a guy
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: who's scared or worried about his knee or like overconcerned
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: or hesitant at all. He wants to play now. Whether
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: they clearer than or not, that's not him or not.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: That's not his call ultimately. But I know talking to him,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: he is communicating, Hey, I want to play football and
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: I feel like I can't. So I think he'll be
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: out there. Juan Taylor, I think he should be out
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: there too. The knee was a minor thing. That's what
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: we were always told. UM, So I think you're gonna
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: have the starters out there. I hope. I would love
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  Speaker 1: to see them out there, and I would probably give
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Cam probably to series, but I would love to see
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  Speaker 1: him get a couple of series out there tonight. His
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  Speaker 1: knee is structurally fine on Thursday. No, I don't think
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: if he's playing tonight real another story, No Thursday. That's
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: why I meant, yeah, so you'd like to see him
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  Speaker 1: on Thursday series. I don't know. I don't think he
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  Speaker 1: was on the practice field a week and a half ago.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. His knee is structurally fine, he's done individual,
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  Speaker 1: says Dr Vaselli. Well, I mean at this point eleven months,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: if it's not, he wouldn't be out there in individual.
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  Speaker 1: If it wasn't structurally fine and strong enough, he wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be cleared. And unless he had last week after individual
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: swelling and soreness, he should be able to do team
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: this week, and I would play him just a couple
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: of series. Yeah, I mean, if he's structurally sound, I
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: would play him to just to get him some work.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: If he's not structural sound, you, he wouldn't be out
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: there at all. Right, they would have cleared to begin with,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: and if he has swelling and pain after individual, then
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't practice this week. Now we would know that
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: because we're not out there. But according to JP, his
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: during the period that you can be out there, he
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: is practicing. And we do know that his jersey was
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: wet when it was turned into but it rained. It
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: rained outside, so it might have just have been him
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: sitting there not doing anything. But Jersey was wet, so
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: it's all the evidence we need. I'm kind of like
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: an investigative reporter right here doing a really nice job.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: I'm digging it. It was good. You like that, Pete. Yeah,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: you learned some lessons. You got some good, good journalistic
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: chops there. But we knew you were a journalist. Yeah,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: you still think you got one foot in the door,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: but you don't know. Admitted it last year. He admitted it.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I'm a media guy. Wo. It hurts to say it,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: but I'm in I'm in the media. Here's what I
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, guys, is Norwell's injuries concerning the
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: fact that they keep piling on after another had a
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: quad recently, right, why don't you spend fifteen million or
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: fourteen or thirteen whatever the number is. And a guy
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: that's been at some small injuries but have missed has
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: missed time. Yeah, you worry about it. I would worry,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: wouldn't you. J. P. Well? Yeah, I would be worried
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: if out it A reliable guy for that especially, he
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: never had any injuries in Carolina, did he no, none,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: now I know. And the guy who coached him in
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Carolina was my college UH coach, offensive line coach, John Mattsko,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: and John Masco speaks very highly of him. He was
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: a self made player, made himself into a lot of money,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: made himself from a nobody into a rich man, and
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: he into tough kid. He's been healthy, he like started
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: every game, and then he's had a couple of nicks
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: and bruises here for whatever reason, it's that is concerning
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: to me from looking at it. By the way, talking
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: to some of the guys that I heard, the offensive
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: line group could be tough to deal with. What do
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: you mean how so they ain't the most accommodating is
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: from what you're talking about from media? What are you
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: talking about? Are you talking to media from the media.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Are you talking about the jaz Wars offense line group
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: or offense line in general, the Jaguars offensive line. I
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: have no idea. They're good to me. I'm in the
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: media and they talked to me. You're also a legend
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: that tackles, so I mean, of course they're gonna talk
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: to you. They're gonna pick your brain as much as
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: they could. I would, but I think you're a great group.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: I had more fun with the offensive line than any
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: other position I covered. But in fairness, I mean because
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Leon was great with the media. He's in the media.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, you told me everything I needed to get.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: I was trying to be funny. Was very articulate, very smart.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Ben was smart. De Marco was crazy. But you know
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: that's a whole another story, Pete. You know in years
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: last year, last year, there were some it was just
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: a quiet group. And you know, Jerry Partnell didn't like
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: talking to media at all. That was just kind of
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: his deal. Partell doesn't I mean, what's his name, doesn't Linda,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Linda can and and does and then he doesn't like
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: to be norwell does didn't really like it. Cam has
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: to be good. Cam is a big personality guy Robinson. Yeah,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: he has to be good. Cam has to be I
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: would think Cam would be very good with the media.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: I would think, I don't know this. He's I mean,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: he's smart, he's articulate, he likes he's I think if
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: you see the energy. There are certain topics with him,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: like with the knee and the situation around when he's
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: coming back to practice. He doesn't want to you know,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: I get that, you know, but things are going pretty well.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: He can turn it on, I think, and do pretty well. A. J.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: Cann's great with the media, fantastic. Will Richardson is very
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: good to him. The other day, is Will Richardson gonna
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: win that job? I don't think so. I don't know, Pete.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: He's bigger, though, and you know how they like bigger.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: I think he might may. I think he might win
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: that job, which is shocking to me, not after what
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: we've seen during preseason, because I think he's out a
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: very good camp. But no way, when I bet that
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: coming into camp, I mean he he was almost an
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: afterthought at least going into O T A S as
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: far as them counting on him to do anything after
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: what happened last year. Okay, okay, so give me opening
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: day gets the chief starting line left? The right? Uh,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: cam Norwell Linder who he's thinking about it? Pete thinking
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: about it? Richardson can and uh and uh Taylor. I
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: don't know about Richardson or Can. I can't decide one
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: of those two. And Taylor. If Richardson starts, does that
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: mean they shouldn't have spent the money on Can? No? Can?
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Just swing guy. Yeah, but they spent money on any
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: not a lot. I mean, he's a valuable guy you
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: want on your team. He's a starter, reliable, he's healthy,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: he can play, you know, center or guard. Well, he's
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: just now learning center. He watched him. He can do it.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: He can do a big difference when I'm just telling
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: you can do it. JP, don't argue with me about
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: like offensive line, I'm not I'm just telling you a
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: J can't told me today. It is a little different
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: when you have a nose tackle in front of you.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: Obviously it's different. But he can. He can do it.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: But five million years a pretty big hefty price for
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: a swing guy. I'm not saying he's gonna be the
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: swing guy. I don't know what they're gonna do it
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: right now. Kind of speculating it, I'm saying it could happen.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: I asked the question. I think it's neck and neck
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: right now. I think this. I think the third preseason
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: game is important one. Well, and you know they like
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: bigger guys there. If they doesn't like who doesn't like
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: bigger guys doesn't mean they're better. I didn't say they were,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: but most guys like if you're bigger and athletic. They
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: like that more than smaller and athletic. Golly, that's a
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: great question, Pete. And I'm not gonna I'm really not
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: trying to play the fence here. I don't know if
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: I've watched enough of both of them to make that decision.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: I would probably go with a j Can just because
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: of the experience inside. And I would probably make sure
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: I got will Richardson reps though, and can last year
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: if the right tackle was a messed all year right
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: and then and the left guard and the center next
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: to him got hurt. I mean, you know he's playing.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: It's a weird situation he had. But my point of
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: just saying I would probably, Man, it's tough. I think
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: I'd go with a J just because it's it might
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: be the safer pick. But I like will Richardson a lot.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: He's big and physical. Man, maybe I go will Richardson.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: I'm going back and forth. I can't decide. Yeah, I
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: would too, it's not even a question. So we just
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: now we can cut the team. Who annual cut the
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: team segment cutting the team right now? We have you
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: don't We've never cut the team before the third before
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: the third preseason game. We always cut it before the
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: fourth preseason you won't cut it, But you gotta admit
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: Shatley could be in trouble. Like Shatley and Wells are
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: both in trouble, right, I would think Wells is off.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: That's me. I think well off because way way, he's
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: gonna be your swing tackle, right and if and if
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: m if we will be the backup center. That that
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: kind of takes out, right, And if Will Richardson is
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: also on the roster, he can play tackle as well. Well,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be a there's gonna be one or two
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: more after those two, though, I think I think you
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: probably keep nine. Um Thomas Brandon Thomas is eight. And
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: then that's where you get into you know, is it
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: Shatle It's tough. Is it another guy who can snap? Yeah?
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: So I think Shatley stalls a chance. No, No, McDermott.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: I've heard mc dermott's played very well during both three
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: season games. Who's big seventy three. I can't think of
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: his name right now, big guy, h place guard, real big.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: I can't think of his name anyways, He's a possibility. Um, yeah,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: I I think Wells unfortunately. I like Josh Wells a lot.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: My guess is he's he's odd man out right now.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Dannell Green Green, the big old he's a big old hoss. Yeah.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Six five, so a lot of questions. Still an offensive line,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: and at some point you gotta keep those young guys
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: and hope you can develop. That's right, that's right. I
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: think Brandon Thomas is on the team. Will Richardson's on
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: the team. So that's seven. A j Can's on the team.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Then you have the rest of the starters and we'll
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: see that Lee, Wells, Green and McDermott probably for that
• 1:13:03
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• 1:13:07
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• 1:13:12
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  Speaker 1: listen to that next time. You'll hear what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: It's somebody on Twitter just mentioned that actually, if you're
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: air is a good bit, and that's okay. I've never
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  Speaker 1: had a standwich of you. I have not either. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna. You know, whenever you're hunger, you want a
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  Speaker 1: good standwich. That's exactly how you want to say it.
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  Speaker 1: What do you want it? Um markis slee back on
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: the field this week. He's fired up to be back,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: of course, Pete, but with good and bad days during
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: the rehab, he had a lot of help arounting him
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: according to the number eleven. So you know, my biggest
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: thing is it's a teammate, say help me as far
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: as you stand com stand patient. A lot of people
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: got injuries and stuff to man to tell me you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be fine and things like that, and that's
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: why I continue to just keep on my mind and
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: look at me I'm ringing, all right. Marquis Slee had
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: devastating knee injury. Of course, last bad one, and that's
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: this one, you know, that's that's multiple things going on. Yes,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: when did you just open up? What did I open?
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: You open a drink or something? It sounds like I
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: just moved a cord over to my, uh into my
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, is it's unprofessional, Pete, at least part of
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: this segment. What are you talking about unprofessionally today? No, no, no,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: I was doing some background information, trying to dig deep
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: into story and getting ready to write release writer now too. Well,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I got a breaking story coming out here
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  Speaker 1: soon about what. Well, if I tell you won't be breaking,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of work. I still got to go
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  Speaker 1: deep undercover to get some more information. You were going
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: to get something to eat and drink? What are you
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: talking talking fresh coffee? He didn't. He didn't have time
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: to get me one. He was late anyway, Well, there
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: was a guy hogging the machine when I got late late.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: Mark J J P. Markis sleep by the way, one
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: of the really good dudes gets it back. Anybody you
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: say you've seen him run? Yes, just but in the
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: early stuff on the side on the side, and the
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: actually in practice. I haven't seen that because the practices
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: have been closed the last few days. So to see
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: him actually run in team eleven on eleven, no, I
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: have not seen any any talk about him in the
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: on the practice field at all. It sounds like if
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: you ask him, obviously he's gonna say everything's going well
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: and according to plan and he's you know, on track
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: to hopefully be ready week one. I don't see this
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: week would be a shock to me though. I don't
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: see him back week one. You don't outside chance um
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: if he's back week one, uh, maybe a small package
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: for him which goes through the bigger question I know,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: which were leading to, uh, JP and Pete. Who's gonna
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: be in that receiver's room when it's all set and
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: down the question and how many do they keep? I
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: can tell you. I can tell you the last one's
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: got to be able to play special teams for sure.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you the four that are gonna be there
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: for sure, and then it becomes fuzzy to me. Okay,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: so the four that are gonna be there for sure
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: are Calmly Shark, Westbrook, Lee. Okay, I mean, I don't
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: see them cuttingly, do you, Pete, I don't either. That's four.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: That's the four. Then it becomes interesting to me. Um,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think Trrell Prior is making this team. He
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: hasn't played in the preseason game and he plays no
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: special team. Okay, that's my sense. Could be wrong. He
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: kind of thinks he's arrived already and he hadn't, so
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think he makes it either. Okay, So then
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: you go to Queiling Cole right now, he would make it,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: don't you think? Well, how many are they keeping? Five
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: or six? Maybe six? So if they make but Martuis
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: might not be ready, so they're if they're keeping six,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: Kelan makes it. I think Helan does make it. I
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: think he's the fifth who's six. So then you go
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: to six. This is where Tray McBride has had a
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: great camp. He's a big receiver or bigger Um, I
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: think it's team's ability. I'm probably Brady. Yeah, I don't
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: see Brady, Tyree, I don't see Brad. I think it's McBride.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: I would say McBride is your sixth receiver, would agree,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: And that might be a spot where number six comes from.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: Somebody else's team. Possibly the kid I've been impressed with,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if he's good enough to make
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: the team, Maybe makes practice squad. Who's the cat from
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: Boston College? He plays with the broken hand, Walters Walker,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: that kid. I mean, I give him a lot of
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: credit playing with a two broken finger cast on his
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: dominant hand, still out there playing all the teams catch
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, but I'm not saying I just I
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: just appreciate the competitive nature of the kid, right, I mean,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: I think it's awesome. I'm not saying he's making the team.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. I think he's a prime squad guy.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: But Tony, you'd agree that the three receivers who take
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: the field first on opening day or Westbrook, Chart and Connolly. Yeah,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: I think that's yes. Okay, Now, Chark has had a
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: good camp in practice. But in the two preseason games,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: did anyone see anything that made you he had to catch?
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: He had to catch the other night that was actually
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: a catch, but it would have got called back in
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: anyways if they challenged it. Because of the whole I
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: thought they re ruled it a drop. You're saying that
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: they would have overturned it. I thought he called it.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe I didn't see it close enough. I thought he
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: called I didn't see the replay. I'm just going back
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: more of his feet that they called him out. Well,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: that would be a non catch then, But I thought
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: his feet were in Oh, I don't know. That's the
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: one with the ball. He put the ball on the
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: ground with his hand and on the sideline right there. Yeah,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: I'm when I first saw him, I might caught it.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: And then they work at a challenge in anyways, because
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: it was a hold on that way either way first game.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: I mean they want to You can't really take it
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: off a lot of reps. I'm not saying that at all,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: but I mean right, I only bring it up because
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: I could see Marquise Lee taking that third spot and
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: does he take it? Does he take it from Chark? Yes?
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: Because yeah, because I see I think Westbrook's gonna the
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: biggest year of any of them too. I think Westbrook
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: and kept sixty seventies passes this year. Yeah, I would
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: agree with that. Pete. Are we hanging our hat on
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: Connley a little much? Or is it fair? Right now?
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: He's not camp Pice. He has he's big and fast. Yeah, No,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: he's he's it's Conley in Westbrook for sure. And then
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: I think it comes down to, like Tony said, between
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: Lee and Chark, and really I wanted to probably be Chark. Now,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: if Chark emerges as a big play threat and shows
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: what he showed practice, that I think the fourth guy
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: between Conley and Chart probably if he leaves back all
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: the way, we're gonna see Lee run. You don't know,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta play out. But I think that's the sixth
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  Speaker 1: you put him on PUP Tonty, He's already on. He
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  Speaker 1: just came off PUP. Pete, I don't think. I mean
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  Speaker 1: six weeks he has to stay on, right Pete the
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  Speaker 1: comes through practice the next couple of weeks. You'll you'll
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you want to do that. I put
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  Speaker 1: The Jags in the Miami Dolphins coming up Thursday night,
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  Speaker 1: eight o'clock kickoff time, nice Fox National and Broadcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: excited seven o'clock or eight o'clock, eight o'clock as I
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  Speaker 1: just say, eight o'clock kickoff. But we're getting home late
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  Speaker 1: five o'clock public tailgate show Thursday. So what time do
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  Speaker 1: you think we'll get home? Not that anyone can still
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  Speaker 1: ninety guys to get out of the locker room, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it takes so it takes a while feet
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  Speaker 1: three yeah, like dawn. So if it's a if it's
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: an eight o'clock kick, that means the game will end
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  Speaker 1: at and you think we'll get back to the stadium
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  Speaker 1: at three? Yeah, I could drive back faster from where
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  Speaker 1: what hard Rack Stadium is right off of five five
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  Speaker 1: or four nine. If you got in the car right
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  Speaker 1: after the game, yeah, I think probably about the same time. No,
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  Speaker 1: but I would get home the same time it got
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  Speaker 1: to the stadium and I stopped to drive from the
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  Speaker 1: stadium to home. There there might be some of the
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  Speaker 1: plane they want you to do that, Tony. I think
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people would have like me to drive. No,
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  Speaker 1: I can't do that. Are you gonna meet us down there?
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  Speaker 1: Are you going to the game? I would I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: meet you at the hotel. But I'm gonna be in
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  Speaker 1: New Orleans. Are leaving tomorrow? Why are you going there?
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  Speaker 1: Why not? Do you're in Miami? Should just come hang
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  Speaker 1: with us? I gotta go do the Saints. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: man about the country, you know how I am. He's
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: the senior writer CBS Sports. He is, he is senior.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: I heard you talking about being a seminole again. Is
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: your son your son's back at he's back playing football, Pete?
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: Is he starting? Uh? He is competing for the job, Tenner. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I actually and I'm saying this all
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: honestly and all honestly honesty. Sorry and all honesty. Let
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: me speak English here. Um, I'm not I have nothing,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: not nothing. It's his, it's his deal. I just support him.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: So I talked to him as much as he wants
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: to talk about it. What's going on. I know he's
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: competing for he loves it. It's it's the most funn
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: he's had playing football since probably his junior in high school.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: So I'm happy for him. So he's excited. He's walked
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: back on out there. He's uh, currently a walk on
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: a Florida State and uh, he's excited to play. I'm
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: excited to watch the team play. Whether he plays or
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: not against Boise State, I'll be we'd be more excited
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: if he's starting. Oh obviously anybody. I mean, yes, he's
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: my son. But I'm gonna be there to support him regardless. Um,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: going to the game, the whole family to cheer on
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: the Knowles. I heard they're gonna be about sixty five
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: Boys State fans at that game. Sixty five or sixty
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: five thousand Boise State not they're not traveling to that game.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. I have not heard anything. That's
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: the next Saturday, right, So it's a week from Saturday.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: Looking forward to that. Are you gonna go, Pete? No,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: I watch it though. I want to see I want
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: to see a little Basli playing. I don't know if
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: he's playing or not, but I'm excited for I'm excited
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: football season kicks off called Saturday Night. Saturday Night Florida,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: Miami and Orlando. I mean, that's exciting. I cannot wait.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: I love by the way. I saw an interview with him.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: Looks like he went from a youthful looking guy to
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: a man. Now, who's that your son? Oh? Yeah, he
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: had a big interview online I saw, and he has
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: like a full beard. He looks like yeah, like, I
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: mean he has a full beard, Like I'm not sure
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: where got you? He looks like me with facial hair,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: Like I can grow facial hair, but it's a little
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: bit patchy. I can't. I have too many patches to
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: go to full beard like he goes full beard. So yeah,
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: he looks like it's too bad for him because he
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: looks a little like you. I think I did just
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: fine with my wife thinks I'm very s Let's move along,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: shall we. Speaking of offensive, there was a tweet after
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: the last week's games by the NFL out of NFL officiating,
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: it's very bothersome. River n is the vice president officiating
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: for the league, and he kind of reviews some calls
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: and puts them out online to kind of explain some things.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: And he said in the Detroit Houston game, Detroit's number
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: seventy six goes back toward his own inline and forcibly
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: blocks his opponent with his shoulder, and by rule, this
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: is a blind side block. There was a video that
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: goes with it from the TV feed of the offensive
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: line in the right guard going back when the defensive
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: ends coming back around behind the quarterback to hit him
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: and got him kind of in the head with a shoulder,
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: and they call that a blind side block. Which all
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: blind side blocks, either parallel or or going back towards
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: your own inline are illegal no matter the situation. This year,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: if they're a forcible contact, if you touch them with
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: the hands or block them out like basketball, that's legal.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: But you can't forcibly with the head, shoulder, or forearm
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: hit an opponent. Somebody explain the play. So it's a
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: drop back pass play action. The right tackle gets beat
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Actually it's a tight end. Now it's
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: the right tackle gets beat a little bit on the edge.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: The defensive end is rounding around as the quarterback is
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: stapping up. As he rounds around to start chasing the
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: quarterback who's stepping up in the pocket, the right guard,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: like every right guard is supposed to do, peels back
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: and blocks him so he can't kill the quarterback and
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: protect him in the pocket. Great play, smart play by
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: the right guard. He is flagged because the rule this
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: year you're not allowed to go backwards towards the end
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: zone has me or even parallel. You have to be
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: in front of them to block them. No, that's not
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: the rule forcibly blocked. If he in front of him, Tony,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: he would have been fine. Okay, but Pete, here's my question.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: In front of him? So he's just supposed to stand
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: there and let the guy hammer him. How is that?
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: How is that safe? Didn't say that you can block him.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: You don't have to crush him with a forearm in
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: the head. Okay, but the guy's running full speed at you.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: What are you supposed to do? You can use your
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: you know you can use your arms to extend, so
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: just punch him down. Yeah, I don't like it. I
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: don't like it either. That's a that's a good football play.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: That was always a great shot to get somebody, wasn't.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: That's a good football play. So he's gonna make the
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: game safer. Enough of this, I've had these conversations. I'm
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: not having the conversation against here about the safeness. Nothing
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: better when JP starts taking the league. This is a
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: good football play. So so you're telling me they is.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: If he just shields them, it's fine. Yes. And if
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: he uses his hands, he uses, if he extends his
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: hands to give him a job, it's fine. Here's the
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: official rule, by the way, on the league operations site,
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: It's prohibited for a blocker to initiate forcible contact with
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: his head, shoulder, or forearm when the path is toward
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: or parallel to his own in line. There you have it.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: That's the whatever. Them's the rules. They're enforcing them. I
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: don't like it. We'll call the competition committee in the
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: ownership then, like I like. I don't like it either.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest. I like that. I like I like
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: no peel back box in the open field because that
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: could be dangerous in the It's crazy, but they should
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: have it like in the pocket, like a lot of rules,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: it goes. It's fine if you're within the pocket or
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: within the tackle box, you can peel back and protect
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: the quarterback. What's more important protecting the defensive and or
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: protecting the quarterback? In this league, sure they are, Yeah,
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: I mean it's more more important to protect the quarterbacks.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: So even Tony in that scenario, if that's happening, a
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: player is going to protect this quarterback and take the
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: flag rather than I him get blasted from and if
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: his offensive line coach, I tell my guys to now,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: to JP's point, you can do it where it's legal,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: just use your hands. And so you gotta teach it.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: You gotta change mentality. And I know what they're trying
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: to change the mentality, and they don't want guys taking
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: shots with their shoulders or you know, it used to
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: be don't leave with your helmet. Now it's don't leave
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: with your shoulder pats or your forearm. I mean, pretty
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: soon we're gonna be playing patty cake and like just
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: patty cake each other out there, Um, which is fine, whatever,
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: that's what they want. And you want to protect guys,
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: I get it. You're and you're gonna have to teach
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: it in the open field, not there, but they're gonna
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: have to just use their hands and it it'll be
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: a less physical The bottom line is the game is
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: becoming less physical and less violent. But if you're able
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: to keep them off the quarterback with your hands, isn't
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: that better? It's just my point is And when I
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: say this, I'm not saying it's the wrong it's probably
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: the right strategy where we sit as a society today
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: and how what you know, how the things evolve and
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: how people feel about certain aspects and the cultural sediment,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: especially when he comes to head injuries and a lot
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: of things. But Pete, would you agree the game of
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: football is becoming less physical and less violent over the
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: than it was? Of course, and that's a that's an
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: offshoot of everybody complaining about it, worried about safety and
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: concussion settlements and everything else. Of course it is, and
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: it's trickling down and kids aren't playing football tackle football anymore,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: which is why, which why, which is why the NFL
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: is doing the smart thing. If you take everything out
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: of it, take the meathead position or me sometimes you're
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: saying I don't like certain things because of how I
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: grew up playing football. The big picture, the NFL is right.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: You want to make the game is like as welcoming
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: as possible for the younger generations, so it continues to grow.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: And the only way to do that is to make
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: rules that protect players and take the what they view
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: is unnecessary hits to the head out of the game.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: I don't mind kids not playing football until they're like
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: twelve thirteen years old. Why tackle tack? Why The safest time,
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: the safest the game of football will ever be is
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: when the pads weigh more than the kids and they
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: can't move fast enough to hurt themselves or anybody else. Yeah,
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: but I don't know it either way, Tony. Okay, I
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: mean you want to know the most dangerous times sometimes
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: the football is in high school. I've seen the most
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: vicious h's in high school because you have one kid
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: who has developed at seventeen or eighteen that's gonna be
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: a five star Division one football player going against some
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: sophomore junior in high school that has no business even
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: being on the field, and the collisions are like, oh
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: my gosh, Like I coached at school, like we are
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: going to put like we would purposely protect our kids,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: knowing that they could not compete like you can't and
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: like there was only a handful of kids on our
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: team that could handle those kids. And guess what they
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: were typically the ones going to play college football. And
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: so there's the disparity of skill set. That's where it
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: because more dangerous when they're little. Like that's where the
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: coaching comes in in a big way, like, hey, let's
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  Speaker 1: protect our kids in high school and make sure the
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  Speaker 1: matchups make sense and we're not gonna put kids out
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: there where they're really going to get hurt. Plus, kids
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: are so big now, I mean you go to a
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  Speaker 1: high school game and look at those kids. They're gigantic,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: but selly, what were you in high school to twenty? No? No, no,
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  Speaker 1: I was six six and seven to but you weren't
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  Speaker 1: three ten These kids I played against, you guys who
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  Speaker 1: are two eight nine. Not many though you gotta meet
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: the kids are much bigger now. Oh, I mean I
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: look at my own kid who's playing Florida State in
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: high school. He was six four to nine. Wow, I
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: mean I was like, I never plu Yeah. I was
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: talking to Tommy mis Lnsky, his kid plays over there
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: where Kenny now and he's six three and two eighty
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: or something to seventy. The kids are big, they're they're well.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: The training is better, the nutrition is better. Um, it's
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: all they developed. Quicker. I'll tell you what I told
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: you the story. Once I went and saw my old
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: high school coach a couple of years ago, and he
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: was still coaching, and I looked at him and I go,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: holy crap, you got giant kids out there. But the
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: hell was I lay? And if I'm here, I'm not playing.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: It's it's different. I mean that sense. It's different, So
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: I understand what this goes. All the way back. I
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: didn't like the fact that that that they called the
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: flag on that play with the people back pocket. The
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: reality is, you're right, JP, it is the rule and
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: they called it correctly. And I do applaud the NFL
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: trying to take unnecessary big hits out of the game.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: It's just different, whether I like it or not. Do
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: I miss the like? I miss the like. You don't
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: miss the blasts in the middle of the field. I'm not,
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: there's no need for that. What I do miss is
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: like the gamesmanship that can happen in the trenches and like,
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: you just can't do that stuff anymore, which is fine.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: That story, Tony. When I was out there with the
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: offensive lineman, they put on the tape of the Dallas
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: Green Bay games back in the day when the Dallas
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: had the great offensive line, and they were all sitting
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: there going, oh my god, they're beating the daylights out
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: of each other. Flag that would be a flag now,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: flag now, flag now, flag the game is that's only
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: years ago. When I mean when I played, it was
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: a fist fight in there. I mean, you're on the ground,
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: you're taking shots, you're cutting people, were jumping of hands
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: in the faces, head button. I mean, there's just stuff
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: that you can't do anymore. Which whatever, it's fine. It's
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: probably better. Um, It's just it's a different because it's
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: really better that they took it off the defensive side though.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: Those those those shots were getting out of control, the
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: big hits on the how you were on the crosser
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: and all that, they were out of control. But they
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: went on forever. Remember the shots that Ronny want used
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: to take on guys, Yeah, and they were they needed
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: to be taken out of the game. Look, as much
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: as we used to go Wow, look at that. Then
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: the guy be laying there. Nobody would even think twice
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: about the guy in the ground. I know, it's crazy,
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: it's such a different mentality. I mean, it really is.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: Um But you know you're right, Pete. I mean those
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: there's no reason. What I do like is them taking
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: the helmet out. There's no reason to use the helmet
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: as a weapon. There's no need for it. The NFL
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: should take that out and should be penalized. And by
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: the way, growing up, it was always a rule you're
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: not allowed to spear, or they just never called it,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: and so now they're really on it. My only issue
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: with that is I think it's such an unfair thing
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: we do the officials to ask them to call it
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: in real time without any chance to replay. Like those
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: bang bang hits over the middle of the field, or
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: the defenders do it perfectly. They hit with their shoulder,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: but they hit the guy so hard in the chest
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: that the head snaps back. That's a clean, good hit.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with those. Or like a tackler coming in
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: and low and the guy goes low and he ends
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: up hitting him in the head. Yeah, whose is that?
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: There's nothing you can know there's certain things that I
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: think replay need to help those officials out. So but
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: overall I agree with the NFL, um you have to
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: train the offensive line. I see why that's apparently you
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: make a great point, JP, use your use your hand over,
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: Yes you did. You wont me over on this argument.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with it. I don't love any but I'm okay. Huh.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: And you hurt your hand trying to do that. No
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: more no more than a bull rush when the guy
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: bull rushes you as an office tackle. So use your hand.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: Do you know what JP? You want me over? I
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: was really upset today earlier, and you know what your
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: reasoning is right. What the NFL is doing is right.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: Win for JP, I've been won over by year argument.
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  Speaker 1: let's move on. That's nice. Let's start with Antonio Brown.
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  Speaker 1: Helmet drama continues. Helmet he found? Oh I know this one? Now?
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  Speaker 1: Raiders GM Mike Mayott wants to know if he's all
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  Speaker 1: in or all out. Sounds like the crossroads here Pete
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  Speaker 1: for Antonio Brown and showed up today. So you're only
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  Speaker 1: an employee of the Oakland Raiders and you you decide
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna go eight wall when you you don't like
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  Speaker 1: your helmet, Like, come tired of this guy? He keeps
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: himself in the news. It's tiring. He's not worth the aggravation.
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  Speaker 1: His yards for catchment down almost two yards last year,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: and that's a sign that you're aging. Uh. Look, if
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: I'm the Open Raiders and he doesn't show up in
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: the next and take part in practice in the next
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Good riddance. Well there's a little money. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're limited what they can do. I know, but he's tiring.
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  Speaker 1: This is all you need to know is that Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 1: Steelers were willing to take twenty one million dollars against
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: their cap and give up draft and only take a
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  Speaker 1: fourth or fifth round draft pick to get rid of him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm forgetting to enjoy up in Week seventeen last year.
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  Speaker 1: I remember, That's my whole point. My point is another
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  Speaker 1: NFL team says, listen, we would rather take the hit
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: get rid of him. We just take him off our hands.
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  Speaker 1: And now the Raiders have the issue to deal with.
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  Speaker 1: And I like the Mike Mayo came out, and I
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: would say that if I would, I would even go
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: step furtherest and listen. If you're not gonna show up,
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: you're gonna we're gonna conduct detrimental We can start taking
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: your money, uh, taking away your guaranteed uh salary. I mean,
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: there's ways you can really affect Antonio's uh, Antonio Brown's
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: earning power. And that's the only that's the only thing
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: you're gonna do to get this guy's attention. To my opinion,
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: you start taking his money, and I would do it
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: immediately if I'm the Raiders, because it's ridiculous. Everyone else
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: is wearing a dang helmet, where are your helmet? And
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: everyone else on his own team is practicing, you know
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: what I mean. These guys are trying working their butts off,
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: and he decides up going here. I'm going to my
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: arbitration hearing. I don't like my helmet, my feet are
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: messed up. I mean, it's it's it's just a disaster already.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: But you know what, he'll be there week one and
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: they'll throw him the football probably seven times or eight times, right,
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: two touchdowns? Yeah you want Pete now, I'll say yeah,
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, I would never do. I don't think he's
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: half the player it I just think he's slowing down
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: some uh. Jerry Jones had some comments about Ezekiel Elliott. Well,
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: there was exactly so it's overblown, he said it in jest. Overblown, overblown,
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: non story, overblown. Well, the the agent doesn't think so
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: it was disrespectful. It doesn't matter. He was holding out,
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: that matters, So his holding out is being disrespectful. And something. Yeah,
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: people would think that, right, when you have two years
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: left a new deal, I think, I think, uh, there's
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: much to do about nothing. Don't forget a bookmarks something
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: we gotta get to. By the way, is he getting
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: a new contract? I think so? Would you pay him, Pete?
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: I'd be careful with it, you know, if he wants
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: the girly money plus some. No, if he wants you know,
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: David Johnson girl slash girly money, then probably yes, he's
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: got two years left the night the deal. But what
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: if he sits out for five games and then comes back,
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: then the Cowboys are one and four and they're done right. Well,
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: I I read something very interesting the other day which
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: I actually think I agree with, Like the running backs
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: should break off and make their own union. Did you
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: read that article, Pete? Well no, But the point was
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: is they are the one position that is treated completely
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: differently because of the life expectancy of or the career
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: expectancy that life a career expectancy of a running back.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: And a lot of times these guys get used up
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: in their rookie deal and they don't get the second
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: deal right, draft them, run him into the ground. Draft
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: another one, and so if you're back. That's why Zeke's saying, like,
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: wait a second, you're not gonna use me up as
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: one of the best backs and not pay me. Well,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: then you're gonna sit out for a couple of years.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be uh an old man who hasn't had carrots.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean. I don't blame
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: Zeke the other day and had avera ate yards for
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: rush behind that offensive line. My whole point is I
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: don't blame Zeke for holding out. Kyler Murray was bookmarked
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: for this segment there in the show. Yes, what did
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: you think about his You know everyone was raving after
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: the first week, how great it was. Then last week
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: that preseason game two, he was not very good. A
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: number of issues. Well, anything to take some at the game.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: In week one, I was there. I didn't do anything.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: They didn't do anything any sort of their offense whatsoever.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: It was all little boots with double tight ends. He's
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: never he's not gonna use double tight ends, and it
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: made it easier on him. That wasn't their offense. Again
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: in week two, it wasn't their offense, and so I
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: thought the Raiders. I went back and watched because I
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: you know, I didn't see the game, but it was happening.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: I was actually at a game. But people said he
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: was a disaster. I think blitzed them all over the place.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: The line didn't make it, they weren't ready for any
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: protections on that and he got hit a bunch. So
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: I think, like we said earlier Tony preseason, you gotta
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: cast it all aside. What is your Where do you
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: stand on Kyler Murray as far as being successful or
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: not as a franchise quarterback. I thought when he was
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: drafted that he was way overdrafted. I still believe that
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not taking for me. I'm not taking a five
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: foot ten quarterback. He is intriguing by the fact that
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: he can really throw that football. But I'll give you
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: an example in the game the other day, and I
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: sent out a tweet with this this two pictures of
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: the showing this. He threw down one and one on
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: wanting to blitz, do a gat blitz. He had one
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: on one on the outside and he tried to make
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: the throw on the outside, which sometimes you could do.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: But if he looks inside, he's got a slot receiver
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: that's on a safety that's gonna run for a touchdown.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: He doesn't see him, that's gonna be a problem for him. Interesting.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: I just think it's one of the stories that I
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: am looking forward to watching this year. And Arizona is
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: fascinating to me for two reasons. One, Kyler Murray five
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: ten quarterback, there's not a lot of them that have
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: had success. Russell Wilson's about five ten, five eleven, I
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: mean he has had success. So it'll be interesting to
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: see if Kyla Murray, who's similar stature, a little shorter, yeah,
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: a little bit. And another thing is Cliff Kingsbury right
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: does his offense because everything you read like he's gonna
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: go ten personnel, one back, no tight ends, four receivers
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: and spread everyone out. It's not something that you have
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: not seen in this league. Is the base offense like
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: that's there other than the run shoot back in the day,
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: But even then, didn't they have a time one tight end?
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: Wasn't that more a level personnel they had a lot
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: of and and remember that was when then people started
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: blitzing it and beating the daylights out of the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be interesting. I'm I'm fascinated to see how Kyler
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  Speaker 1: Murray does it. Cliff Kingsbury does? I think I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to pay with that today thought. Because you can't
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  Speaker 1: hit the crap out of the quarterback anymore, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's easier to do. Yes, So peach right, running shoot
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  Speaker 1: was ten running shoot was ten personnel, one back, four
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  Speaker 1: wide receivers. It's Cliff Kingsbury's base offense. We haven't seen
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  Speaker 1: it since then. I'm very interested to see Josh Gordon
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  Speaker 1: reinstated by the league. Does he play. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if he's playing. And Pete, I'll let you comment on this.
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  Speaker 1: All I'm gonna say is I'm rooting for I'm rooting
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  Speaker 1: for him. I want him to be sober, I want
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  Speaker 1: him to be successful. I want him to see through
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  Speaker 1: this issue. I do too. I do too. But you
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  Speaker 1: know what they might do. They might put him on
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  Speaker 1: the reserve not report list and keep him out until
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  Speaker 1: later in the season. That's a possibility. And one final
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  Speaker 1: thought tonight. Longtime CBS sports comment hator Jack Whittaker passed
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  Speaker 1: away at the age of ninety five years old. He
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  Speaker 1: was wounded in France and World War two twenty two
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  Speaker 1: years with CBS part of the ABC Olympics coverage. In
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  Speaker 1: eight he had played by the play of the first
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  Speaker 1: twenty one Super Bowls, the only man to do that,
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  Speaker 1: and he passed away at ninety five years of age.
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  Speaker 1: What a pro that guy was. For sure, where's that contract?
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  Speaker 1: I want to sign it for ninety five right now?
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  Speaker 1: I'll take I will take ninety to day. Done. Done deal.
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  Speaker 1: But like my dad. But like my dad, so he says,
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  Speaker 1: if you signed a contract for is gonna be one
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  Speaker 1: hell of a year. He will talk to you next week.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: Beats CBS Sports Senior writer Tony Vaselli, Joe Fortunato, Brent
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  Speaker 1: rebar Our, Entire Jaguars dot Com Crue, Ashman Sullivan, David Candice,
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  Speaker 1: Max Hawkman, Patrick Kavanaugh, Bryan Sect, and I'm JP Shatter.
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