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- 0:05Apple Computers is 50 years old. Hurrah.
- 0:09Welcome to Mark and Pete. And here we have a story of
- 0:13investment gone wrong. Well, this is Mark and Pete 2
- 0:17blokes with half an opinion. Now here's our first thought.
- 0:21From the tree of technology growth, an apple at its very
- 0:25core is something folk do adore. They say an apple every day
- 0:30keeps all the data hard at play. An apple that gets a lot of use
- 0:34may eventually run out of juice. An apple consumes lots of bites
- 0:39from a bunch of app delights, and the lovely apple of your eye
- 0:43sees sales soaring extremely high.
- 0:47Well, that may be the case. Yes, the Apple is 50 years of
- 0:51age. Well, right back back at the
- 0:53beginning. Yes, of course, Steve Wozniak
- 0:56and yes, Steve Jobs. Yes, you remember this is the
- 1:00revolution technology that certainly for most people have
- 1:04got them all in their pockets or at home or possibly even at
- 1:08work. Now Mr. Pete, when we look at to
- 1:12what Steve Jobs and colleagues did, there was one particular
- 1:16error that was made by an investor.
- 1:18Many people might not be familiar with Ron Wayne.
- 1:22Now, why is this so significant when we celebrate 50 years of
- 1:26Apple? Well, poor old Ron Wayne, not to
- 1:31be confused with John Wayne, completely different individual,
- 1:35but strangely almost as involved with the development of Apple.
- 1:40Because yes, poor old Ron Wayne was one of the one of the
- 1:44founders of Apple, was he not? Oh yes, but only for only around
- 1:48for 12 days. It may have been a mistake to
- 1:52pull out. It may, I mean may have been a
- 1:55mistake. Suppose so.
- 1:58Perhaps an understatement. If.
- 2:00What you're talking about is return on investment because he
- 2:05became a little bit scared, nervous, uttery, one might say,
- 2:08and that led to it might. What do you think?
- 2:12It's possibly the biggest miscalculation in investments in
- 2:16history. I don't know if we go that far,
- 2:18but. I think we should explain, yes,
- 2:22well Ron Wayne was one of the advisers to the Wozniak and Jobs
- 2:28and it was definitely something as a a possible opportunity of a
- 2:33$2300 investment at the time. Now as you say, he got a little
- 2:39bit jittery because he felt that potentially there were some
- 2:41liabilities that could actually impact him.
- 2:45Now when we move time on, of course, as we all know that
- 2:48Apple definitely succeeded. Well today, had Ron Wayne still
- 2:54retained his stake, it would now be worth $370 billion.
- 3:01Now that's quite a lot of money for anyone, for that matter.
- 3:06Having said that, I can see that his decision seems to be or
- 3:10would have seen at the time the correct one.
- 3:12I think we would both have agreed with him.
- 3:14He made this investment, but then as you say, he had possible
- 3:17exposure because he because he had shares in the company such
- 3:23that he might have lost his house or his savings.
- 3:26So why take that risk, you know, on this rather disreputable
- 3:31looking set up, I mean, why take the risk and you can see that
- 3:35unwillingness to take a risk. Did it cost him money?
- 3:40Well, it cost him potential money of that huge amount that
- 3:43you said there's a Bible verse about using your talents and one
- 3:48the one person who's given the talents by the Lord, you know,
- 3:51representing God in the, in the story in the Bible, one of them
- 3:55just buries his talent in the ground and then doesn't do
- 3:58anything with it. And he doesn't take the
- 3:59investment. He doesn't want to take the
- 4:01risk. And this is whereas someone who
- 4:03uses the the talent they have the talent in this case being
- 4:07money, you know, it's used figuratively to mean abilities
- 4:10these days. But the actual story is using
- 4:13money to help and investing it in something that then produces
- 4:18not just a profit, but success. You know, building the Kingdom
- 4:21as it put in the Bible or or in this case, providing people with
- 4:26Apple computers, which for much, I don't know really want how
- 4:30much we want to go to this into this.
- 4:31But I would say for much of its of its life as a company have
- 4:36been innovative and great quality products.
- 4:39Maybe. Not so much.
- 4:40Today. Well, I think that one of the
- 4:43things we ought to note is, of course, we today definitely look
- 4:46upon Apple as one of the most important manufacturers and
- 4:52producers of products, technological products
- 4:55throughout the world. But of course, in the beginning,
- 4:57it took a while to take off the original Apple computers as they
- 5:03were sort of folding did take a long time and they were very
- 5:07expensive or perceived to be expensive.
- 5:09And so that was really one of the challenges.
- 5:13Now of course, they also went public as well.
- 5:15So the share price were sort of fluctuated quite dramatically.
- 5:20And I think we we ought to mention as well is that Steve
- 5:24Jobs, albeit that again was absolutely fundamental in the
- 5:27beginning, fell out of favour with the Apple board.
- 5:31And it wasn't until we got into the 1990s that we saw that they
- 5:35started to re evaluate their products and actually did
- 5:39something which I think was really cutting edge.
- 5:42Now, of course, when we think about the home, if you look in
- 5:46anybody's home, you've probably got a computer and almost
- 5:49certainly you may have an Apple, whether it be an iPhone or
- 5:51whether it be a laptop or something else.
- 5:54But at the time, in the 70s and early 80s, most people didn't
- 5:58have a computer in their home. But of course, making it much
- 6:01more affordable and attractive, the visual look of the computer.
- 6:05And Jobs was very much a visionary.
- 6:07Well, yes, I think this is the key thing.
- 6:09I mean, the key change in thinking was originally under
- 6:13Steve Rudd Wozniak, who was the sort of technical brains behind
- 6:17it, I would say. At least that's what he says.
- 6:20But no, he was he was the guy who had the the real technic in
- 6:23depth technical, Oh yes, was produce a computer for for
- 6:27people who were computer enthusiasts.
- 6:29You had loads of different ports that you could plug different
- 6:32different other gadgets into. You had a memory that could be
- 6:36added to. In fact, everything could be
- 6:38added to. That was the beauty of it.
- 6:40And Steve Jobs, his change in that was to say, no, we just
- 6:45make it simple so we could just plug it in and use it.
- 6:47That was the genius move. Well, I think there was another
- 6:51genius move. Many people forget this, but
- 6:54basically in 1997, Jobs made peace with his longtime rival,
- 6:58yes, Bill Gates, and he worked out a deal that included 150
- 7:02million cash infusion to the Windows maker.
- 7:05Now, of course, this was rather significant because it did open
- 7:07up the opportunity for the iMac. And of course, very much a
- 7:11little bit later, Jobs introduced the iPod.
- 7:14Do you remember that? The music storage device,
- 7:17probably some people have got them scuttled away in a drawer
- 7:20somewhere. But the fact is, what you
- 7:22started, what you started to see is then the emergence of the
- 7:26iPhone because all of the devices, it's one device
- 7:30basically, not multiple devices. The iPhone basically changed the
- 7:35game, yes. And I guess the, the
- 7:37presentation of that when he was presenting it to the, the Apple
- 7:41staff, but it, you know, it was broadcast when they, he was
- 7:44saying, and we've got 3 new products.
- 7:47It's, it's a phone, it's a music device and it's an Internet
- 7:53browsing device. It's a phone, it's a it's music,
- 7:56it's Internet browsing. And he kept and on the screen
- 7:58the three devices were moving round and then it he said, do
- 8:02you see what it is yet or it's a worse than effect?
- 8:04And it was just one device. And so, yeah, the, the iPod, a
- 8:08phone and and then your, your computer access to the Internet
- 8:14were all in your hand. Yeah.
- 8:15But again, this move was simplifying Steve's.
- 8:20Steve Jobs's genius was thinking in in the way that the consumer
- 8:27would think. Not a computer or gadget
- 8:30enthusiast. What do they want?
- 8:31They want it all at hand, easy to use, and you just have to
- 8:36press a button. And eventually, of course, that
- 8:39became just press the screen. And then that Genius grew as a
- 8:44Apple beyond all recognition. Massive company, big valuation
- 8:49as you say, and it changed the way that we interact not just
- 8:54with the computers and the Internet, but with each other.
- 8:57Oh yes, yeah. Well, what's interesting
- 9:01absolutely it's, but it's also become a device which it's
- 9:04almost impossible now to, to navigate your way around the
- 9:10world without having a mobile phone.
- 9:13Now of course, I know iPhones are not the only phone.
- 9:16So, but we are celebrating Apple.
- 9:18There are over 3 billion iPhones that have been sold this century
- 9:25alone. And what's interesting is, is
- 9:27that since the Steve Jobs died, and of course we saw that there
- 9:32was another big hero, still very much a champion of industry
- 9:37today, Tim Cook. Tim took over the leadership of
- 9:40this of this organization. And what we have to understand
- 9:44is that Apple is worth 10 times more than its 350 billion market
- 9:48value since Jobs died. So the point being is the
- 9:53success of Apple is around his phones, it's around his
- 9:56products, but it's also about the people behind it.
- 9:59If you get the right leader and they've got a vision and they've
- 10:03got a very good control of their operations, then you know that
- 10:06you've got a chance. So I think, I think Mr. Pete,
- 10:09what we're celebrating here is not just the technological
- 10:12revolution, I think it's also a business revolution.
- 10:15They're a very good organized, well organized company, got
- 10:19their manufacturing base sorted out, got their distribution
- 10:22right, and crucially got their branding right.
- 10:25It's a very clean, consistent brand and everybody recognises
- 10:29it. It's almost that desirable
- 10:31device, isn't it? The one?
- 10:32I know it's expensive folks, but you can't get away from the fact
- 10:36that most people want one. What say you about the appeal of
- 10:43an Apple? Oh man.