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Taylor & Travis wedding discourse is out of control | diabaddie drama + Alix Earle vs. Nina Dobrev? · Mini Scroll

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Coming up today on Mini Scroll, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's
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polarizing wedding weekend, a Love Islanders trade marking
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scandal and is Alex Earl feuding with Nina Dobrev.
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Welcome back to Mini Scroll everyone.
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All right, as expected, as we all anticipated, I was proven
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wrong because over the weekend, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey
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did get married. And I mean, I think we all knew
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this was going to happen. Even though I had a theory that
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maybe they weren't getting married.
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I also knew if you guys listen to Friday's episode, you'll know
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I said a million times like I know I'm going to get proven
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wrong, but like I just couldn't believe it until I guess I saw
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that big just TNT married AT&T billboard sign until I saw that
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I didn't really believe it. All right before I get into it
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All right, so the first story that I have for you guys today,
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of course, is Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's wedding.
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So the way that I'm going to report on this story is I'm
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going to tell you guys everything that we know so far
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about the wedding, and then I'm going to share some of the
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various opinions about the wedding.
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I think in general, this has confirmed for a lot of us that
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number one, we don't know this woman, OK?
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We don't know Taylor Swift. And the parasocial takes that I
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have seen from both sides have been unhinged.
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Second of all, I feel like it really has confirmed that she is
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like Taylor Swift TM now, right? It feels like she's operating
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very much from the perspective of a corporation of a brand,
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right? Like there is very little I
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think. I mean, I'm sure there is behind
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the scenes. This is giving parasocial me
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analyzing it like this, but I'm sure behind the scenes for
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people that know her in her personal life, there is a
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distinction between like Taylor Swift the brand and Taylor Swift
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Taylor Swift. However, I think that this
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wedding was for Taylor Swift the brand and I do believe it's
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because it will be filmed. I think it was filmed for like
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Disney Plus or something like that.
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And anyways, I'm going to just like get into all of it and then
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you guys can share your opinions.
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But that is my opinion, that this was a wedding made for a
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television production because I think something switched in
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Taylor Swift amid the Eras Tour, where she is now truly like
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Taylor Swift TM. And I think at least publicly is
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really hard for her to separate from that.
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All right. So over the weekend, it became
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clear that the wedding had taken place.
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Pictures started circulating from New York City.
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Some were paparazzi shots of celebrity guests, others by the
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Daily Mail specifically were leaked shots from inside the
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venue. But the marriage was confirmed
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with a sign lit outside Madison Square Garden that read Just and
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T Married. So Just TNT married and a
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statement was issued to the media.
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Quote. The bride and groom's wedding
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ceremony looks have been created by Christian Dior O Couture.
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They're designed by Jonathan Anderson, creative director of
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Dior's Women's, Men's and O Couture collections, in close
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collaboration with the bride and groom.
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This is the designer's first couture wedding dress for a
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world renowned celebrity. Their shoes were custom made by
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Christian Louboutin and the bride wore Cartier jewelry.
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Taylor and Travis did not have bridesmaids or groomsmen.
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Instead, her brother Austin Swift served as Taylors maid of
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honor and Jason Kelsey was Travis's best man.
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The ceremony joined both families together and was
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officiated by friend Adam Sandler.
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OK, so that Adam Sandler of it all when I saw this on I think
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it was e-news that I saw at first I was like, excuse me,
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Adam Sandler was the officiant is crazy.
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OK. So if you are curious about how
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much it might have cost to host an event at MSG.
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The New York Times reported that quote 1 industry insider who has
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experience working with the venue and spoke on the condition
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of anonymity, estimated that it would cost Miss Swift somewhere
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between 1.2 million and 1.6 million to book out the garden
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for two days. And like I said on Friday, I
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know people are like, oh, my God, this must just be like, so
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tacky. Why did she choose this venue,
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regardless of all the other stuff that I'm going to get into
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and how you feel about the wedding in general.
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Budget was no limit. And I imagine that they were
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able to make the inside of this venue look exactly how Taylor
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Swift wanted it or the couple wanted it in general.
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And it would have looked nothing like a concert venue, like a
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sporting arena. Like it would have looked, I'm
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sure, absolutely amazing. And like the few pictures that
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we have seen from the Daily Mail, if they're true or not,
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you know, it does look so beautiful.
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OK, so the guest list was extensive.
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According to reports, there were around 1000 people invited,
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including celebrities from Selena Gomez to Paul McCartney
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to Benson Boone. So while most people in
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attendance have respected, you know, the bride and groom's
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privacy, no photos of the couple have been leaked.
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Any photos that you have seen are AI.
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There were some photos circulating that looked like
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they were, like, blurry photos from the back on the day of.
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And those are AI photos. So while people have not shared
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photos and like largely respected their privacy, some
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guests have started sharing what the event was like.
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Many have noted how intimate it felt despite being held at MSG
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and how magical it was. There was one slip up though.
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The president of AMC theatres, Adam Aaron, has made headlines
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after sharing the play by play of the wedding on Eggs, so the
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post has since been deleted. Tree pain.
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She must have been freaking the fuck out.
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OK, so this is some of what he reportedly wrote.
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Quote. A small portion of MSG was
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cornered off, devoid of any notion that a basketball or
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hockey game ever shared that space.
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Somehow, magically, someone created an outdoor guardian at a
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lush countryside retreat. Everything draped off, this time
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in green and white. Real flowers and I think
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artificial trees welcomed 15 rows of maybe 75 or so chairs.
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They say there was around 1000 attendees, but surprisingly it
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all felt intimate and small. Everything was close.
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OK, so since neither Taylor nor Travis have posted about the
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wedding online yet at the time of recording, and I do not, I
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don't think that they will have. This is going to be another
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thing I'm freaking wrong about, I'm sure.
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But I don't think that they're going to have any type of
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exclusive. Like I don't think it will be
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like a Vogue exclusive. Like I literally think the first
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photos that we see of their wedding will be from them on
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their Instagram the same way that they did it with their
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engagement. Like that's what I think we will
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get from them. Nothing has been posted from
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them yet. However, there are a lot of
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different opinions on this wedding so I'm going to cover
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it, like I said, from both the Swifty and the non Swifty
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perspective. OK, so first, many social media
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users are fixated on the guest list, which is to be expected.
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Obviously it's a very high profile event, so Karlie Kloss
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has stirred up a lot of conversation online.
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And in the interest of keeping this short, Taylor and Carly's
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friendship flush relationship underpins much of the Gaylor
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lore, the theory that Taylor Swift is either lesbian or
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bisexual. Gaylor truthers believe that
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Carly inspired various songs throughout Taylor's discography.
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The two were incredibly close around 2013 and 2014, but are
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widely believed to have had a falling out or broken up.
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If you subscribed to the Gaylor theory when Carly married her
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now husband, Joshua Kushner. I'm actually dead.
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I said Jared Kushner last time. And you guys were like, girl,
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yeah, no. Taylor was noticeably absent
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from the wedding, and that made Carly's attendance at Taylor and
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Travis's wedding last week an even bigger deal.
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She was also wearing gold. And people were freaking out
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because the subset of the fandom that believe that Taylor Swift
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and Carly Kloss were in a relationship, they feel like
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gold plays a big role in the symbolism of their relationship.
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If you look back at some of Taylor's songs that she
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allegedly wrote about Carly, this is all theory.
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Of course, there's a lot of symbolism around the color gold.
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So people were like, Oh my God, I can't believe she wore gold.
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OK, so another major talking point was Adam Sandler
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officiating the wedding. So many Swifties loved the idea.
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But there has been a lot of criticism for this choice as
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well. So some criticize the choice to
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platform someone like Adam Sandler because of his political
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support for Israel. Of course, comes off the back of
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years of online conversations about Taylor's political views
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and whether she has taken a strong enough stance or strong
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enough public position on various issues.
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Perhaps less egregiously, some users just described this
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decision as tacky. 1 TikTok pop culture commentator named Kelsey
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was in disbelief that the quote woman who wrote folklore has
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chosen to have this kind of wedding.
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OK, so over the years, I have seen the criticisms of people
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saying that when Taylor Swift is dating somebody essentially like
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morphs into them, right? And I don't know if I ever fully
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subscribed to it or understood it.
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Like I, I wasn't always like keeping up to date, I suppose
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with her in that way. But this wedding I was like,
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this is a bro wedding. And for me, it like the Adam
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Sandler of it all. Like it solidified that like
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this is the ultimate like millennial bro wedding.
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Many users also found the sign outside of MSG to be cringe,
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claiming that it looked like the wedding was sponsored by AT&T. 1
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of the biggest criticisms I've seen is that the event, from an
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outsider perspective, feels more like a networking opportunity
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than a wedding. As one redditor wrote quote.
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Not going to lie, the wedding seems more like a networking
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event than an actual wedding. I don't think Taylor personally
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invited everyone on this list, but she for sure had to know or
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had a list of people who were coming.
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It's not a good look to have Brad Pitt there.
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Yeah, I'm going to say the Brad Pitt of it all.
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There were a lot of men invited, people invited who have a lot of
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like really big allegations against them.
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And I was genuinely shocked to see Brad Pitt there.
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I know that the PR machine has been working overtime for Brad
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Pitt and a lot of these men in Hollywood, but especially Brad
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Pitt. But like, we still know what
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happened if you're paying any little bit of attention.
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I was really surprised to see him there.
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As more details come out about the wedding, many social media
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users are saying that she had a quote Taylor Swift themed
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wedding. And aside from the fact that
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Taylor has played the MSG, there seems to be a few references to
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her career. So for example, Maren Morris
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posted an Instagram post from the wedding that included custom
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handkerchiefs that red So if it's going to be Forever, which
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is a reference to her song Blank Space.
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And then this might have been a coincidence, but social media
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users are also talking about how Mike Todd, Elizabeth Taylor's
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husband at the time, rented out the old Madison Square Garden to
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celebrate the 1st anniversary of his Oscar winning film in 1957.
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And we know Taylor loves Elizabeth Taylor.
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She has the song Elizabeth Taylor and Life of a Showgirl.
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I don't think it's any coincidence in my opinion.
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All right. And then finally, people are
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questioning the couple's decision to shut down shops and
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streets around Madison Square Garden over the 4th of July
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weekend and during the World Cup, a time when many local
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shopkeepers and small businesses would typically expect to make
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significant revenue. To many people, there is
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something that feels kind of dystopian about that.
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Like street closures for major events aren't unusual, but it
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feels different when they are taking place for what is
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ultimately a private celebration hosted by one of the world's
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wealthiest people. And then New Yorkers were also
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questioning who was footing the bill for the additional security
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because according to reporting by The New York Times before the
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event, the New York Police was expected to be on patrol in the
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area because the NYPD is supported through a combination
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of state, federal and city taxes, Some people were
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questioning whether public resources should be used in this
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way. OK, So I would say those are
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like, the main criticisms, judgments.
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Some of them are more valid than others.
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Like, some of them are just like, completely subjective.
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Like, OK, you thought that was like a tacky wedding.
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I mean, that that's your taste. And others, I feel like had a
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lot more weight to them. However, on the flip side, here
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is what Swifties are saying. So many have argued that this
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was the wedding of her dreams and that people shouldn't dampen
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the moment for her. It kind of feeds into the
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broader argument that Taylor should simply be allowed to
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like, live her life and make the choices she wants to without
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every decision becoming a debate.
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And she has sung about that in several songs where she feels
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like the public traps her and she's really trying to like,
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break free of their judgement. Swifties have also suggested
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that one of the reasons Taylor chose to get married at Madison
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Square Garden was as the added security.
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These users have pointed out that because the ceremony was
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held indoors, there was little opportunity for things like
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drones or long range photography to capture the event without
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Taylor or Travis's consent. I agree with that.
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Like I think the decision to hold it there probably did have
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more to do with the fact that they wanted to have this like
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giant over the top wedding and there needed to be a lot of
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security. They wanted it to be very
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private. I know that sounds like an
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oxymoron to say that this wedding was private, but it it
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was like it was a private wedding.
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There were just a lot of celebrities there.
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So responding to discussion about the location and whether
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it could have been more private, 1 user on the R slash swiftly
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neutral subreddit wrote she'd still have to deal with
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helicopters, drones, etcetera that would invade her privacy.
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MSG actually makes perfect sense to me because they can avoid
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this completely. Her wedding will be a media
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circus regardless simply because of who she is.
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At least this way she can avoid worrying about the paparazzi and
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just enjoy the day. There also is a lot they can do
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with the venue. They put on plays there, so it's
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not like it's going to feel like an arena.
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I agree. I will also say though, like
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Zendaya and Tom Holland just got married and I'm not saying that
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they are as a list as Taylor Swift or have, you know, as a
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rabid of a fan base as Taylor Swift.
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But they got married and like we have no idea when, where, what
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the details were. There definitely were ways for
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Travis and Kelsey, Travis and Kelsey Taylor and Travis Travis,
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and Oh my God, am I OK? I'm not for them to get married
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without us knowing, without it being a media circus.
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But Taylor has told us for years that she wants a giant wedding,
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like she wants this big production.
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So that's fine. Like if that's the kind of
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wedding that she wanted, OK. So in response to criticism
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about the impact that the wedding has had on the city of
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Swifty's have also pointed out that Taylor and Travis donated
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to a number of charities ahead of the event.
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According to reports, the couple donated $26 million to charities
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across the United States. As the Guardian reported, quote,
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the 20 named charities included organizations in meaningful
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locations to the couple, such as Nashville, Kansas City and New
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York City, where Swift and Kelsey's wedding is reported to
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take place. And then finally, there are just
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a lot of Swifties saying that if you're criticizing anything
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about the wedding, you're just jealous.
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I think by now you guys know how I feel about the jealousy
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argument. I think it's so one-dimensional.
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I think it often lacks context. And I'm not saying that there
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isn't jealousy sometimes, right? Like we all feel jealous.
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We all feel envy. But the argument that anybody
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who is criticizing something that a public figure is doing,
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we're looking at something with a more complex lens than just
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like, well, this is the wedding that they wanted.
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And just putting that blanket statement like those people are
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just jealous. I think that lacks critical
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thinking. All right, unless something
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really major comes said about this wedding, like we can't talk
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about it anymore. And I know you guys don't want
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to talk about it anymore. Whether you're a Swifty or not,
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none of us want to talk about it that much anymore.
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So that will be the end of it unless like I said, something
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really crazy comes out. All right, the next story that I
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have for you guys today, we have more trademark drama on TikTok.
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I mentioned this on Friday. Somebody messaged me this while
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I was recording. This time it's around the word
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diabetic, a term many people living with diabetes use.
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Also, update on the trademark lawyer situation.
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I have been connected with somebody, so I'm going to see if
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we can tee something up. But yeah, like I'm not trying to
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be the legal podcast of Internet culture, trade marking drama.
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We do want to get a professional on here to give us the
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information that we need. OK, so as you might have
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guessed, the term Diabadi is a portmanto of diabetes and
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baddie. It is typically used as a term
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of empowerment among those living with diabetes, and many
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creators and advocates have taken to platforms like TikTok
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to discuss the condition and share what it's like to live
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with invisible medical devices. So the trademark drama around
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Diabadi started with a creator named Rachel, who goes by the
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chronically I'll list. She took to TikTok last week,
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sharing that she found a trademark for the term Diabadi,
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specifically for clothing. Rachel says that she has already
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been selling T-shirts with this phrase.
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We did verify the trademark. It was filed on December 20th of
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2025 and has yet to be registered.
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OK, so to make matters worse, Rachel adds that the person who
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filed the trademark is fairly well known.
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According to the information available online, the owner of
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the trademark is Jaden Ashland Duggar.
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Jaden Duggar was a contestant on Season 7 of Love Island USA.
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She came in during Casa Amor and coupled up with Austin.
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And you guys know I'm not a Love Island girlie.
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So this is the information that I found.
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But I can't give you any more information than that because,
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like, I don't watch the seasons I should.
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Like, I'm sure I would love Love Island.
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Oh yeah. So this is like what we have
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found. And I guess many social media
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users appreciated Jaden because she openly wore her medical
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devices on the show. They felt that she was positive
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representation for those living with diabetes.
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In the initial TikTok, Rachel shares that she had offered to
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send Jaden Murch while she was in the villa, so presumably
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Jayden or someone on her team was familiar with Rachel.
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After discovering the trademark, Rachel messaged Jayden directly
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on Instagram and here is what she has to say about the
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situation. I found this trademark
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application for the word Diabadi, specifically on graphic
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Tees like the one I've been selling for the last four years.
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I saw who was behind it. I was honestly floored because I
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have offered this girl a Diabadi shirt as PR this time last year
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on a certain popular summer show on a certain island and it was
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honestly really cool representation.
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I made a video about it calling her diabadi and the person
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running her account commented on it and I messaged back and said
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that I would love to send her PR and she said that they would
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love the term diabadi. She said she would put me on a
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list for her and I never heard back with no hard feelings.
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I know she was having her moment and I love that for her, but
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when I saw she was trademarking Diabadi specifically for shirts,
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crashed out a little bit and after composing myself I decided
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the mature Diabadi thing to do would just be to directly
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message her and ask her if we could talk about this and if her
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intentions were to stop people like me and other creators from
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using the word Diabadi on graphic.
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T-shirts. In an update, Rachel shared that
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Jaden did go on to respond after first leaving her on scene.
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Rachel claimed the response sucked, saying that it doesn't
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seem like she will withdraw the trademark.
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And then she included a screenshot of her response in
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the video, so I'll read it for you guys.
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So this is from Jaden. Just to clear up some
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misinformation. Nobody owns the term Diabadi.
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Not me and not anyone else. It's a community use term that
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has been around for years. There are already multiple
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trademarks for Diabadi in different trademark classes.
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Trademark classes cover different types of goods and
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services, so it's not as simple as one person owning a word
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across everything. My application was only related
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to a specific category because I had been asked by hundreds of
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people if I was ever going to release merge and if I chose to
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do that I wanted to go through the proper legal process.
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At no point was my goal or intention to stop anyone from
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using the term or prevent people who are already selling shirts
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from continuing to do so. I support this community and I
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would never want to take away the term that so many people
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identify with. Please make sure the information
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being shared is accurate before making claims about my
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intentions. OK, so this is what prompted
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Rachel to start a GoFundMe to help with the legal fees.
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She has made it clear that starting a GoFundMe wasn't
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something that she really wanted to do, but at the time of
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research, she has raised 87% of the goal.
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So aside from sharing these updates, Rachel has also used
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this traction to raise awareness for issues that people living
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with diabetes face, which is a way to do it right.
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This is giving like Sierra Miller, when all this command of
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stuff was happening and then she was posting links to donating to
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different like charitable organizations and things like
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that because she knew that all these eyes were on her profile
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at the time. So I love when creators do this.
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At the time of recording, though, it doesn't seem like
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Jaden has addressed the situation apart from that
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statement. And the general consensus among
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TikTok users is favorable towards Rachel, which makes
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sense because of the amount of, like, trademark drama that we
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have seen over the past few weeks.
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All right. And the last story that I have
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for you guys today, this is like so random and quick, but Alex
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Earl is allegedly feuding with actress Nina Dobrev.
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So over the weekend, Alex didn't get ready with me for the 4th of
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July. And in it, she spoke about how
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she recently ran into a girl that she thought she was friends
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with but she is no longer friends with because of
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something that this girl did to Alex.
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And she was saying that this girl was a liar.
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Now, at first people were commenting, asking if it was
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about Xandra. And then Alex actually responded
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to someone and said Oh my God, no.
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So then people were like, OK, is she talking about Nina Dobrev?
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So Alex and Nina became friends over New Year's Eve.
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They went on like a yacht trip in Saint Barts with a a bunch of
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celebrities and influencers and they took a lot of pictures
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together and they seem to be quite friendly.
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But fans have recently noticed that Alex has unfollowed Nina.
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So now the theory is that like Nina Dobrev and Braxton Berrios
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may be hooking up or linked. I could not find any evidence of
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this. If you guys know where this came
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from aside from like the speculation around this TikTok,
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let me know because I thought it was going crazy.
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I'm like surely there is some reason why people think this?
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I don't know. I couldn't find it.
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I'm not saying it's not true, but like I couldn't find
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anything or the other reason why people are speculating maybe
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this is about Nina is because Nina has just signed on to do a
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show produced by the Unwell Network, which as we know is
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Alex Cooper's company and Alex V Alex is still very alive and
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well. And to that like a yes, that
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could be true. I don't know.
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I just feel like Alex are all of all people is not gonna get in
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the way of her friend making her bag.
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I feel like business and personal, they can be separated.
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And I feel like for somebody like Alex Earl, who is truly
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such a businesswoman and she seems very commercially minded.
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She seems very business minded. Like that would surprise me if
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she was mad at her friends taking opportunities, even if
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they're part of the unwell network or whatever.
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Because at the end of the day, like she wants her friends to
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make money. Like she would take that
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opportunity to like that's just kind of how I see it.
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I don't know. Again, maybe something she's
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saving for the reality show or maybe something we will never
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