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INTERVIEW: Coach K & Mel Carter Talk Bojangles 'Wine & Beer,' Franchising, Quality Control Music, Artists +More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day up waiting, click your ass up.
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  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 3: You don't finished for y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Dunk Morning.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody is DJ n V Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy
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  Speaker 4: we are the Breakfast Club. Law La Rosa is here
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  Speaker 4: as well.
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  Speaker 3: We got some special guests.
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  Speaker 2: In the building.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, we got Coach k who's been up here
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  Speaker 4: several times, and we got the brother Mel Carter.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome, thank you, thank you. This my first time, the
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  Speaker 2: first time here.
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  Speaker 4: Now, if they don't know who you are, you want
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  Speaker 4: to break down who you are and what you've done
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  Speaker 4: in this industry.
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  Speaker 2: Me ah man, long time coming. I did music for
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  Speaker 2: twenty years, and ten of it for free, and then
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  Speaker 2: I got paid for the other And I used to
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: be the senior vice president of A and R Republic Records,
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  Speaker 2: went over to Warner after that for three years, and
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  Speaker 2: I just left Warner like it's the first time saying it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm leaving Warner. Wow. Why why when you starting your
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  Speaker 2: only thing? I saw right starting I started signing different
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  Speaker 2: second in the State. Second State was a joint venture Warner.
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: I was doing that in control for the n R
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  Speaker 2: team and starting sound in the Stream of Space. I
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  Speaker 2: started managing this kid named Rod. He just did uh
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  Speaker 2: Sabatine and the American Dream Mall. He did thirty days,
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  Speaker 2: thirty nights, lived there. I just and I just really
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  Speaker 2: liked that space. So I'm doing that and just focus
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  Speaker 2: on these restaurants for real, for a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: real estate, like you you know what I'm saying. But
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  Speaker 2: that's really it. It's focus on this new company and
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  Speaker 2: focus on hopefully turning these restaurants into a hundred restaurants
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  Speaker 2: in the next five years. Said A and R. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 2: but you said A and R. Yeah right.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like A and R doesn't exist anymore. And
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  Speaker 4: both of you brothers came from a place where y'all
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  Speaker 4: were strong and rs for your artists. Does A and
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  Speaker 4: R exist anymore?
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  Speaker 1: Do we need A and RS?
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  Speaker 4: Because it seems like the music is just getting trashed.
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  Speaker 4: There's no guidance.
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  Speaker 2: I think we need A and R. That's the problem. Yep.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they got rid of the artists of Element
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  Speaker 3: and started everybody started treating the music like stockbrokers, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, and chasing the number number number,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, and that became now labels. I should
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  Speaker 3: say chase songs instead of building and developed artists.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: Once you build it, you build, you build an artist,
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  Speaker 3: it turns into a brand. And you know that's how
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  Speaker 3: you know, we and q see like I studied, We
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  Speaker 3: studied the Motowns and you know the Russells and you
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  Speaker 3: know those labels. And I think it needs to come back.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's the problem. It's oversaturated and nobody's like
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  Speaker 3: building stars.
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  Speaker 4: Now you don't know who coach K is. Coach K
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  Speaker 4: first time I met a music with g Z then
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  Speaker 4: one of the creators and owners of QC that that
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  Speaker 4: brought all the sluice Yati Gucci. He did Gucci back
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  Speaker 4: in the day, but he bought Uh City girls, migos,
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  Speaker 4: I mean just a host of them. But they actually
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  Speaker 4: built from the ground up. These artists didn't have hits
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  Speaker 4: at the time. You guys worked and created the hits
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  Speaker 4: and created what ya wanted to do, which we don't
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  Speaker 4: see anymore. Is that the reason why you feel feel.
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  Speaker 2: Like you know, one of the things that got me
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  Speaker 2: and I love Republic record shout out to Manti and Avery,
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  Speaker 2: but it became this like you don't really need a
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  Speaker 2: and R no more. You know how many kids I
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  Speaker 2: flew to New York City because they had a song
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  Speaker 2: that was trending, and by day three the song was
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  Speaker 2: going down and I had to just explain to them,
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  Speaker 2: we don't want to do the deal no more, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So it's like you need A
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  Speaker 2: and R. But it's such a research game now that
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of hard to be at A and R
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  Speaker 2: because it's like you could have an artist that's the best,
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  Speaker 2: and you like you want to build them up, but
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  Speaker 2: a kid from you know, Michigan, got something that's streaming.
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  Speaker 2: They don't even have a song as they go after it.
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  Speaker 2: So like that's why mid Coach and like QC and
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  Speaker 2: like the last of that that's left for real, for real,
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  Speaker 2: that's really in our it's a dude name top dog.
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  Speaker 2: They really still building artists, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 2: instead of just like chasing what's moving and it works.
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  Speaker 2: And it's kind of like, I guess it could be
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  Speaker 2: a bit of a better business model because you could
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  Speaker 2: develop an act and they don't work. But a lot
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  Speaker 2: of this shit that just start trending, they don't really
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  Speaker 2: go nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: Also feel like you got to have those boutique labels
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  Speaker 1: like the QC. You need it, like the Top Dogs,
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  Speaker 1: because reality is y'all niggas care as they simply just
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  Speaker 1: don't care. I look at like some of the last
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  Speaker 1: few releases that came out from people did fantastic ab
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  Speaker 1: Offste fantastic album, Tianna Taylor fantastic album.
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  Speaker 2: But they don't even feel like a Vince.
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  Speaker 1: They feel like somebody just put it out there and
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  Speaker 1: did the minimal amount of work possible and now what.
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  Speaker 2: But think about it, right, every artist that's big, let's
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  Speaker 2: let's say the Top two, Drake, Ken, Drick, Little Baby,
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  Speaker 2: every one of these acts came from a joint venture.
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  Speaker 2: So they had somebody in the middle, like a coach
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  Speaker 2: who cared, you know what I'm saying, Like TV who
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  Speaker 2: cared cash money. They had somebody who sat between the
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  Speaker 2: label it was like, Yo, we ain't gonna do that.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna do this. Like every success in Republic except
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  Speaker 2: for Po Malone, it's through a joint venture, Wayne Nikki,
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  Speaker 2: even Taylor. It's all joint ventures with somebody who was
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  Speaker 2: standing in the middle, who cared, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: So you need somebody who cared. Can we drop a
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  Speaker 2: bomb for a little baby? Man?
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  Speaker 4: Little baby sells so many goddamn records, and it's so
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  Speaker 4: quiet about he. He's like diamond twice, right, diamond twice,
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  Speaker 4: and nobody talks about it. Is insane. You telling me
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  Speaker 4: the numbers earlier.
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  Speaker 5: I was pulling it up.
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  Speaker 6: I saw he I think it was let me, let
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  Speaker 6: me get it right. So my turn is on Billboards.
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  Speaker 6: He's number one of the bill Boards twenty the top
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  Speaker 6: R and B and hip hop albums of the twenty
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  Speaker 6: first century.
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  Speaker 5: When you saw that, how did you feel about it?
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  Speaker 3: I mean I felt I felt really good. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: when we was making that album, I knew it was special,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And what made it so
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  Speaker 3: special is when the album dropped. It dropped February twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 3: two weeks two weeks later, like the middle of February,
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  Speaker 3: because like two weeks later the world crash, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying, And it was it was like it
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  Speaker 3: was really it was really a messed up time because
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  Speaker 3: he didn't really get to go tour that album because
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  Speaker 3: everybody was down for a year and a half. Basically,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, but it stood a test
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  Speaker 3: of time up where like it was like every song
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  Speaker 3: I was like damn, damn, damn, and it just kept
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  Speaker 3: going to the point like right now like freestyle, you know,
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  Speaker 3: mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: It seven years later, it's just it was like that's
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  Speaker 2: his dreams and nightmare.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah Jesus, but yeah, it's it's you know, it's it's
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  Speaker 3: a really good feeling.
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  Speaker 2: It's a really good feeling.
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  Speaker 3: That body of work was a well put body of work,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and had been developed over time,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, it's a good feeling.
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  Speaker 1: Did you think that he was gonna come with you know,
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  Speaker 1: basically the soundtrack for that year with a song like
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  Speaker 1: the Bigger Picture. When you think of all the artist
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  Speaker 1: that you thought was gonna come and represent with music,
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  Speaker 1: Little Baby was not on my Bengo car to come
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  Speaker 1: with the record.
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  Speaker 2: You know what. It's crazy, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: Like he went and I remember him doing a Bigger Picture,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I remember he called us, was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this record, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: He played it, I was like, oh man, this is
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  Speaker 3: about to change the game. He's like he said me
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  Speaker 3: and Pete down and say, hey, man, listen, I don't
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  Speaker 3: want this to sit on my album. I want to
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  Speaker 3: sit on I wanted to sit alone. I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to make the money from this album. You know what
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Because everybody kept.
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  Speaker 3: You need to speak up, you need to speak up,
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  Speaker 3: you need to speak up, because he's big in the
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  Speaker 3: community and they know he had a voice, you know,
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  Speaker 3: talk to the kids. He was like, I want this song,
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  Speaker 3: and we had to go to the label. He was like,
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  Speaker 3: I want this song all the money that it generates.
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  Speaker 3: I want this song that money. I wanted to go
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  Speaker 3: to charities, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, criminal justice reform, yeah, everything,
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  Speaker 3: you know. And to go to the label like hey,
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  Speaker 3: this is what we want to do. And they was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But he was like I
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  Speaker 3: don't even you know, Like that's how he because everybody's like,
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  Speaker 3: we need you come Marsh, we need to come speak
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  Speaker 3: He went and he cut the record. He's like, this
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  Speaker 3: is how I want to get my point across. He's
• 8:04
  Speaker 3: very vulnerable on the record, Like I hadn't heard him
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  Speaker 3: that vulnerable. You know what I'm saying and let it
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  Speaker 3: out and then we gave it to the world and boom.
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  Speaker 2: So y'all ain't make no money off that record. Nah,
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  Speaker 2: we donated it.
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  Speaker 5: Point the number was at like one point five million, Like,
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  Speaker 5: where is it now?
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  Speaker 2: You got that many?
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  Speaker 6: I don't think people understand the impact of that song
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  Speaker 6: and what that means to just give that all to
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  Speaker 6: you know, a great thing he did, but that's a
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  Speaker 6: huge amount of money.
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  Speaker 3: And so even even that year it got nominated for
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  Speaker 3: Grammys and he got to performed Grammys, was like it
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  Speaker 3: was still closed, you know what I'm saying, Like he
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  Speaker 3: had a big performance, but you know, and really get
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  Speaker 3: to get the magic of what it really was.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: So now you guys have jumped in and jumped into
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  Speaker 4: the fast food spot.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Crazy thing about the fast food spot is, you know,
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  Speaker 4: as a kid, fast food was cheap.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: You can go there and you can get two ninety
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  Speaker 4: nine mel and you know, you walk out with fries,
• 9:04
  Speaker 4: food and a drink. The other day I went there,
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  Speaker 4: it was like fifteen dollars and I'm like, this ain't
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  Speaker 4: cheap no more.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, but the coke was twenty five cents back
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  Speaker 2: in the day.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not that old, wasn't It wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: I'm around the fifty cent I remember that time. I
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  Speaker 2: was there for twenty five.
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  Speaker 3: It was twenty five, thirty five, and fifty fifty five.
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  Speaker 2: I mean talking about when I was like, I'm a
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  Speaker 2: little older than that. A couple.
• 9:35
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about what you know, why you jumped into
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  Speaker 4: the bow jingles franchising and how y'all how'd y'all get
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  Speaker 4: together to do it?
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  Speaker 3: So so, me and Mail met twelve years ago music.
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  Speaker 3: We met, you know, on some music stuff. You know
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. We became super good friends. My brother,
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: you know, he was coming up in the business, and
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: it's wild because we was back in the green and
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: we were just talking like damn, it's twelve years ago.
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: I literally was starting QC when me.
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: And him met. You know what I'm saying. I was
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  Speaker 2: I got this idea. You know.
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  Speaker 3: He had an artist from Brooklyn he was doing and
• 10:07
  Speaker 3: he was like, man, I need your help. I was like,
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: we're gonna help each other. You see what I'm saying.
• 10:10
  Speaker 3: Because I was at the I was doing a come
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  Speaker 3: up here. I'm leaving management, well, still managing, but was
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: doubling down on you know, starting a label man, because
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: you know, you know, managing artists sometimes, you know, that's.
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  Speaker 2: When you gave me that advice. I was like, Bro,
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  Speaker 2: like you knows, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, you got to own an IP, especially
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: when you're a manager that an rs and develops you
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So it's like, you know, you're
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: managing these artists, you developing a IP and you creating
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: their whole business. But then you know, you look back five, six, seven,
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: ten years You're like, damn, I've had ownership. They can
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: exactly you know what I'm saying, they can fire you.
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: So that's when we met, right then. I told him
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: that because I was going all in on the artists.
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: I say, bro, make sure you you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: You covered you know what I'm saying. But we met,
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  Speaker 3: and uh we we had a really good bond.
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  Speaker 2: You know. It's a good good brother.
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  Speaker 3: And what about four maybe four years ago, five years ago? Male,
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  Speaker 3: start making this moves, you know what I'm saying in
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  Speaker 3: New York, like meeting a lot of people and doing things.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, he was like, Yo, when I find something,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, because you was all you
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: always kept it real with me, you know, like even
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: when he went to go get a job, he was like, y'all,
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  Speaker 3: I need you to call these folks and tell them
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: this thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's real, you know. But you know, once I find something,
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull you in. Called me.
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  Speaker 3: He was like, man, what you know about bow Jangles.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, whoa, that's crazy. I went to school
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: in Raleigh, North Carolina. You know what I'm saying. I
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: played basketball at Saint Augustine. Bo Jangles kept.
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  Speaker 2: Me alive, berry biscuit, berry biscuit.
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: And kept me alive. You know what I'm saying, Like
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: gate that ship. So I was and I never even
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: heard of bo Jangles coming from Indianapolis, Indiana, where I'm from.
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: I got down there.
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: I was like the thing and it was two minutes
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  Speaker 3: from my campus, you know. So when they called me
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: with the opportunity, I was like, hell, yeah, I men.
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I was like, what we
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: can do? What I was like, I'm in. He's like
• 12:06
  Speaker 3: all right, let me let me, you know, go center
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  Speaker 3: down and really research and find out everything because I
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: know you're busy, you know what I'm saying. And when
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: I get everything from all the information and I'm gonna
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: put it in front of you. Here we are.
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: And you know, it's funny how that opportunity came to
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: me is having the right mentors, you know what I'm saying.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: The network and doy named Mike Novgrads who m Dave Barry.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: I got a podcast for them based on business. It's
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: called Business Untitled, and uh, they were actually going to
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: I mean whatever it's out there now. They were going
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: to buy pop pods and they ended up that fell
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: through and they bought both Jangles because they felt like
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: it was the next best brand. And that's how the
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: opportunity came about. And I just started really looking into
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: the brand. I always wanted to own something and like
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: like as a kid like man, it'd be cooler on McDonald's,
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And it came out. We
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: end up buying raised twenty five million dollars, bought seventeen
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  Speaker 2: bow Jangles and now grew it to twenty eight, opening
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  Speaker 2: another two now opening four this year. Congratulations twenty eight
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  Speaker 2: currently operating. Yeah, seventeen in South Carolina. We opened in
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  Speaker 2: the first one in Florence that's band Wine and one
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  Speaker 2: in UGA on the campus that do band wine first
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  Speaker 2: bow Jangles ever wine.
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  Speaker 4: So being one so you can go there, you can
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: get go there, get you.
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  Speaker 3: Them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. But you know, like when I tell
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  Speaker 2: this story, like I'm more involved than coach, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, because coaches running the whole entire label.
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  Speaker 2: I'm more run this. It's it wasn't easy to get
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  Speaker 2: to this these you know what I'm saying. The first
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: year we bought it, the EBITDA which is the profit
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  Speaker 2: was at two point five million dollars when we bought it,
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  Speaker 2: COVID hit stores closed down. We was getting this crazy
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: thing that was happening in with the employees. I don't
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: know if you remember the government, if you had an
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: unemployment they was giving you four hundred dollars on your
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: check if you left. So we was getting employees that
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: worked for two weeks quit get our five hundred from
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: unemployment and the government gave him four hundred extra. So
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  Speaker 2: we had so much turnover. Now we got over a
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: thousand employees, which eighty percent of them is black, you
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, And like we was getting two
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: hundred people turning over. Then we had to shut down stores.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: So the ib and I went from like two point
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: five million to like a million eight which that trips
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: every alarm with the bank. So it was like, oh
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: my god, we just like dropped the ball on this.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: Had the restructure, had a bad partner coach you want
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  Speaker 2: me about. We got rid of him and our restructure,
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: hired a guy named Rob who's the CEO of the company.
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  Speaker 2: A CFO read Robin, and restructure the management team, and
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: you know, thank god, today the business is we're doing
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: seven point nine million dollars in even out this year,
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: on track to do nine point something million next year.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: Every year since since the fall, revenue increase.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: So you know, but I say that to say, like
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: being an entrepreneur, man, I always tell people like it's
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: eighty percent headaches, it's eighty percent stress, but that twenty
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: percent be really worth it. You know what I'm saying,
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: what's the.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Biggest obstacles you guys face?
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: Because you hear all the time tariffs is affecting this,
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: or this is affecting the farm life. You know, people
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: don't want this or they want this, So what is
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: the biggest obstacles you guys had to face in this part?
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: I mean and and this the tariffs didn't really affect
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: us that much, you know what I'm saying. But like
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: the biggest obstacles I had to face, me and Coach
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: had to face was getting the management team right, people working.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Getting people working right in
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: the business. You know what I'm saying, it's getting the
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: management right. When you got we got almost we probably
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: got eleven hundred employees. You know, we done haved fights
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: at the store. You see all that type of shit
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: like and you really be like, please don't be my
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: store because you get sued. You know what I'm saying.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: But I tell you one of the great moments I
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: had when you know, and it happens a lot, but
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: this was the first great moment I had. You know,
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: I have to go check out the store. So I
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: went somewhere in South Carolina and they got the store
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: pretty nice ready. And you know, we hire a lot
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: of X cons. We give second chances, like just people
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: like us. I'm a high school dropout kicked out, so
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: we hire people like ourselves that just we want to
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: give opportunities too. And I went there and they had
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: this store like super ready. They ain't know what I
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: look like. And this one dude he came up to me.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: He had just came out like maybe a year ago,
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: and he been working and he still works there. I
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: can't remember his name. And he was like, man, you know,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: I thought Coach K was the guy from Duke That's
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: what he said. And he said, and they told me
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: the boss, the other boss was coming from New York. Man.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: We was scared. We was like, we thought it was like,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: you know, a white corporate guy like you like me.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, nigga, I'm just like you. Like
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: you don't even understand how much I'm like you. And
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: he gave me a hug, you know what I'm saying,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: and he was like, man, it's just good to see this,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And I was like, Yo,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: if I could do this, you could really do this
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: because I had no I don't even know how I
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: did this. I just did it with God, you know
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Did it with God? Did it with Coach,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: had the right friends, the right mentors, and like networking
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: is everything, and like, you know, you could be a
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: good networker, but if you're only networking in Flatbush, you
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: only gonna meet people from Flatbush, you know what I'm saying.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: So you got to get outside your comfort zone and
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: really like network with people like yourself, people like you know,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: I hired you for a party, like fifteen years ago.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I was throwing events in the live you remember that
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: on Fulton Brooklyn in Brooklyn, So I was charging He
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: charged me like forty grand back then. No, I can't remember,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: but you know so I've just been like that working
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: my whole life. And I don't treat networking as like
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I want a network with people that I feel I
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: could be friends with. You know what I'm saying. I'm
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: way past that stage where I gotta like be around
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: somebody I don't like just to make it make something happen.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: So like coach my brother, we're gonna through both Jangles together,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So for kids, man, it
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: ain't easy. It's really really really hard. Every day it
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: feel like And I'm sure y'all know that I heard
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: you got a couple of Yeah, me and my wife
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: we got two.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: We bought six, but we got two that's are currently
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: operating in South Carolina. That's Walter brother Crystal Crystals. What
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: it's like, uh yeah, like sliders. Yeah, we should we
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: should talk on that, you know what I'm saying.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: And because we got a lot of is like in
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: both we can do we can do burgers, we can't
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: do chicken. So it works perfectly. So we could definitely
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: have a conversation with congrats on that.
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: Is there a certain area, like location, like in the
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: South or wherever that you see that your businesses work
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: better than others.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: So, uh, the Carolinas number one, like South, both Jangles,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like they just they bringing
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: boat Jangles to New York right now, and they offered
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: me the opportunity to do it, and I think it's
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: gonna do great, But I say, you know, I'm not
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: rich enough to do that. Like I'm gonna lest somebody
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: else take the chance, see how it goes, and then
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: do it. Because New York, the labor is real high,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: the rent is real high, but the volume is real
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: high too. So me and Coach looked at it and say,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: you know what, We'll sit these first five out, let
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: somebody else do it and see how it go. But
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: they coming to New York. But like for Both Jangles,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: l A two, Yeah, why the Carolina's doing. I mean,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Bojangles is just religion in the Carolinas, Like you know
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I never really heard of the brand
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: until my friends bought it and I really started digging
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: into it. But like they don't want to hear nothing
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: but bo Jangles. So it's like Bojangles is I mean,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: you know, it's religion. It's like it's like Chick fil
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: A in Atlanta, you know what I'm saying.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: So I went to school, I'm from Indianapolis. Man, I
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: never even heard of bout James. When I got down
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: to North Carolina. That was like that was it with
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: no KFC. You know what I'm saying. I mean literally
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: it was KFC. It was it was. It was churches, right, Pope's.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I don't even think it was n rally yet, you
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Pope's wasn't even there, but it
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: was churches KFC. Right, I mean literally right across the
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: street from each other, man bow Jangles line State. I'm
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: talking about booked for real.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Man, that Chicken fil A biscuit with some egg on it, man,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: and with a bowlberry biscuit and then big ass hash brown.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, no biscuits beat us bro I don't
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: think it's the best basket in the game for real.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: FA I agree, So, yes, the Carolina is as strong
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: anywhere in the South they got. I think they got
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: a thousand locations all together, and it's strongly in the South.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: They starting to move up this side now and I'm
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: gonna see how that go. But it's a really good brand.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: The food is good.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I'm actually happy it's not in New York because I
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: would eat it every day. You know what I'm saying.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: People who want a franchise, does it make sense to
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: only own one franchise if you don't have enough capital
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: to buy you know, several of them.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: It do make sense if you are going to work
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: and operate it yourself every day, because we don't operate it.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: We there managing partners. You know what I'm saying. We
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: got it. Like I said, a CEO is great CFO
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: and a thousand other people under them. So that's why
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I got the ability to be in New York. Coach
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: got the ability to be in Atlanta and run this shit.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: But it makes sense if you are going to run it,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: because if the banks he run it and you're making money,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: They're going to that money to you, and well, a
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: strong brand like a Bojangles, you may only have to
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: put thirty percent down, you know what I'm saying. And
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: if they see you growing and you know the business,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: it make a lot of sense.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: So do you leave music at all now? Like use
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: a f This music thing now too much of a
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: headache and I'm just going to stay as a nah.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: For me, I love music, I really really do. But
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: more than anything, like while I'm going into this streaming
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: world is because I find so much. I was a
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: youth once, you know what I'm saying, and I find
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: so much Like you learn so much from them, you
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So I want to stay part
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: of that world where you keep learning, you know. So
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: for me, this is how I really did bow Jangles
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: and real estay in a few different things because my
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: dream coming up was to be Dame Dash jay Z.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: You know those guys inspired me coming up. Coach K. Now,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I never made it to where Coach K is in music,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: and I'm okay with that, but I was like, you
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: know what, I am making really good money of deals,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: made some money. I need to diversify and make sure.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Even if I don't hit that success in music, which
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: is my number one passion, I might have thirty two
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: bow Jangles restaurants. You know what I'm saying, I'll still
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: be able to feed my family. I still have a
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: couple of buildings. I still you know, so like invest
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: in Whoop and different things that I did, And that's
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: why we did the podcast because I was like, I
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: got I met these two guys, Mike Novograts and Dave Barry,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: who are very very successful guys. But and Coach knows
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: them well. We all brothers, you know what I'm saying.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: They Mike is worth a lot, Coach is worth a lot.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, Dave's worth a lot. But more than anything.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: That's been my college for the last lot. Highest education
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I had in a real way is fifteen years old,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And I learned so much
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: from them. Of like, if you focus on one thing
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: and you want it, and you make other money, put
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: it into other things and almost forget about it, you
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So I got a lot of
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: opportunity used to invest in a lot of different things
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: because of networking and meeting people and just being genuine
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: so like I love music, it's my passion. I didn't
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: get the success that coach got, you know what I'm saying. So,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: but I wasn't gonna chase that for the rest of
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: my life. What about you, coach?
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: You are dealing with all this and attitudes, and I'm
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: stealing it, man.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: I mean it's had I and I wake up some
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: days like I hate this shit.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: But two of your groups don't air with each other,
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: and then they get back together, then they don't.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Mess with I'm a creative at heart, man, Like, like
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: even building a business, I never did it for the money. Man,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I just I'm a creative
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: and I want to be the best, you know what
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I'm always I was always chasing that,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: you know, like trying to be the best, you know
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So with that, you know, you do
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: good work, keep your head down, keep your face clean.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Eventually, you know, the finances came. But even with that, man,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: I was like, shit, I got stuck to versifying my
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: portfolio business too, you know. So you know, when this
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: opportunity came, I was like hell yeah, And like he said,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: like Mike and Dave, his brother. He introduced me to them.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I met them, and they's some good guys that like
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: just really gives us really good game and you know,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: like being in school, you know, and a lot of
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: opportunities that have came from that. But uh, yeah, I'm
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: still in music, man, Like I still love it.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Who's on QC now?
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: You know, but before you said, there's a lot of
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: people who thought that y'all y'all back the way after that, yeah,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: was like, no, we're good.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Ah, hell no, we didn't. We actually doubling down. And
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: you know what, just the business shifted. Like I've been
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: in this business twenty eight years now, the music business,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I don't watched this ship shift so many times and
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: you know about every ten years. It's a real shift
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: that happened, you know what I'm saying. And we just
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: saw that. We're going through it right now, and you know,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: we got some new young talent that we're developing that's
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: super excited about. But to answer your question, who's still
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: on QC? A Baby still on QC, Yachdy is still
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: on QC. JT is still on from from the old
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: you know, j T still on QC. Quavo still on QC,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: All Set still on QC. You know what I'm saying.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: So everybody's still there and building, and then it's it's new.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: You know, we got new talent that we're developing, you
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: know what I mean?
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I love offset new album, man, but I
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: just feel like it should be bigger. Like I really
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: feel like I don't even know who's design to you
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: see and who motown multime capital.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Somebody got to be doing. You know, it's still a weekend.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: It's only a week, man.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: It feels like nobody's been out for a little second.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: I feel like.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize it's only a week. Gave me too
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: because people really starting to talk.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: About it a lot now the label lying lay will
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: be like, it's not about the first week, Yes it is, y'all,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: don't do nothing for.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Feels like his album was out for a while because
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: we've been talking about it.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Maybe we're the first week. It is about the first week,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: but that we got to get off of that, you
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Because that's the thing, like these
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: bodies of work have, it's really good music on there,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: and we sold mind fucked, you know what, I'm saying,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: and custom what the first week numbers look like. So
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: if a first week number come out and it's low,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: then we forgot about it. Let's go to the next one.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: And that's that's really messed up, because these projects really
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: are good, you know what I'm saying.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: So I just want to leave that thing. You know.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Another problem too is and I hate to say it,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: but I feel like music comes so fast right something saturated.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Right now. I'm still on Clips.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Album and I'm still on Offset album. I didn't really
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: get a chance to dive in the Jit album, you know.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: What I'm sat get a chance. It's crazy. Somebody told
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: me it's difficult. You know.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: It's just a lot of music out there, a lot
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: of music to consume. Yeah, I remember like one week
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: it was like it was it was like so many
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: albums campus like Clips and ray Kwan And then I
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: was like, whoa, you know what I'm saying. But I
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: was happy because I'm a purist, you know what I'm saying.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: So when these the Clips and the ray Kwan's and
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: then I look the Burning Boy drop. You know what
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, Fucking Justin Bieber dropped it. I never listened
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: to it justin Bibro. The albums incredible, you know what
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like all these records, and I was just
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: like I was kind of overwhelmed, you know what I'm saying,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: the same way, you know, but I think it's just
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: man a lot.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: You know shit.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Well they say two hundred and fifty thousand records come
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: a day, you know what I'm saying.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Like, it's just crazy, you know what I'm saying. So
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I want to I want to ask both of.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Y'all something like how important is regional identity when you're
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: developing a global stuff.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: It's really important, I think super important. That's the most
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: important thing. And I think streaming messed that up, you
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Where you know, you own where
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: you're from, you know, and you become that you know,
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: like different slangs come from different places, and that's what
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: makes shit so great. But when the streaming happened, it
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: was just hit the button. It was everywhere, so you
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: you felt like you didn't have to like own your
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: And I think we got to get back to that.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying That this West Coast because
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: it was a West coast, and it was a South coast.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: It was the south and the East coast the east
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: and everybody had their own identity. And now it's just
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: kind of like you can't even tell no more, you
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, And that kind of like messed
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: things up.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: But I think we're gonna get back to it.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: How everything's gonna blended.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard, you know. I think I don't know.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: See West Coast and they got their old like they
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: stayed by their sound. Then they didn't stay away. They
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: did sound, but like there's no New York sound anymore.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: There's no the like before there was a boombap, you
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: knew what New York was. Now it's like you hear
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: all this hip like where's he from?
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: That's a fact.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: You don't feel like Sexy Drill is the New York
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: son it is.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: But it's like, how big is it getting? You know
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's not like you know it's it's
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: it's I don't know how big it could go hopefully somebody,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: but it's for music for me too. One of the things,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: one of the main reasons is that I really loved
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: this whole streaming culture is that they really I don't
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: know if I can say this, but I keep saying it.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: They really like little niggas from the street. You know
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, I'm I'm I'm really like a guy
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: from the street. Like I I everything you could think of.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I went through. You know what I'm saying. I've been shot.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I've been I've been through a lot of stuff, and
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: like that was one of the things for me with music.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I was just getting burnt out of you know, artists
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I done came through that got murdered, like King Vonn
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: and them. I didn't really even know them. I knew
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: his manager. I was in the studio with them trying
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: to sign him the night before all of that happened. Wow.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: And then the next day four of the guys or
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: three of the guys I met in the studio got murdered.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: So I just was like, you know, coming up and
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: trying to like do something different and keep running into
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: like this violence in music, and like for music, you
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: gotta be tough. It was a rap in here. You
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: gotta be here with seven niggas, and they gotta be tough,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: even if it ain't nothing to be tough about. So
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: for me watching this streaming culture and watching these content
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: creators who talk the same, who just as cool, but
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: they'll tell you straight up, bro, we're not into that
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: violent shit. For me, that just feel good to be
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: a part of and I hope it last. And that's
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: the drill music. Like you know, I love New York,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: but the drill music, like you gotta be or act
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: violent or you gotta you know what I'm saying, We
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: gotta be dog for it to work. So it's like
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: that was another thing that for me I straight away
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: because it was just like, damn, I'm almost forty. I'm like,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of cool on that, and I don't want
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: the kids to be on that no more.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Were a little hard on the drill artist though. We
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: grew up on trap, you know what I'm saying. You know,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: we grew up on crunk. Like the New York music
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: were super gangster and violence. We're a little bit hard
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: on drill artists, like like that wasn't our era.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Too, No, no, it was.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: But it's just so what I'm saying is I'm gonna
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: come out shooting it, killing too.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: It's like we're just old enough. Yeah, But you know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: and this is the thing, right, I definitely or to
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: anybody who's trying to make it. I'm just saying, if
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I see a way where I could get kids to
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: like understand they can make it without doing that, I
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: want to support me. I want to put myself more
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: behind that because I know what it feels like to
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: be shot in the face. I know what it feels
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: like to go through all that. I just my cousins.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Shout out to my cousin. He just died three weeks ago,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: he got murdered. So it's like I got over three
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: hundred friends that's been throughout my life. So it's just like, yeah,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I supported it, and it's part of our DNA because
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: we grew up like almost like real glorifying violence. Absolutely,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: I see a way that I'm like, you know what,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: these kids ain't really doing that. Let me get behind
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: that and see if I could kind of guide them.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: I think it's a matter of and you know, you
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: felt like people lived that life right And nowadays I
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: was watching some of you the kids like, nah, just
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: make it up.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah I never shot a gun. I just make it.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Most of them make it up, bro. Like man, it's
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: just like when trap music. We came like you said,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: we came up on trap music. Let's let's be clear.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Ice is Ice preaching this all the time. My artists
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: come to me. I'm like, bro, this is not real.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I remember this one. I
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: ain't gonna say no name but me in the studio
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: when we first started QC.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Run off on the plug.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: This is that that that? You know what I'm saying?
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: And they said something. I said, brow May Grabs is
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: in the quilo right. He was just looking. I said,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: why are you talking about this real?
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: No, but it's just you know what I mean. Like,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: but that was different compared to what's happening right now
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: with the drill Ship. And again, I love, I support you.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Gotta make your living, you know what I'm saying. You
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: gotta get your mom's out of the projects. You got
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: whatever it is. But now they don't live it right.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: But when they make it the music and they get
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: so good at it, what's the next thing. I really
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: gotta live it. I really gotta shoot somebody. I really
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: got to get that. Nigga Shot was an artist who
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: was at the video shoot. One of the little guys
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: that I think you were signed and he was like, yo,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: this kid and I was like, not this kid. I'm
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: looking at it. I'm like, yo, he's a wild one.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: And then like a couple of weeks later, I'm looking
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: on the blocks. He just got picked up, did it?
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: And I was like, what the hell?
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Kid I had from Markins. So he in jail for
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: twenty years? His friend he came here, I signed him
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: where he got double Life plus thirty seven years. I'm like,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: why would you even give somebody that much time? Double
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Life plus thirty seven years? Yeah, I hate when Jordge
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: do this is like just safe forever. He's just mentally
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: trying to like mess with me, you know what I'm saying.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: But for me that was it's still a big thing,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And I'm like, I ain't
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: removed from the streets completely, but if I could help
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: move from the streets and get money ways. But I'm
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: talking about, like, you know, my people, if I can
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: help them like see a different way where it's like
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: we don't got to like, you know what I'm saying,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: glorify the violence. I'm all for that.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I want to ask y'all the same question about franchising.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: How important is regional identity when it comes to franchising,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: because you know, bow.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Jangles coming to New York, Chick fil A and New York.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Don't hit the same for me coming from the South,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: chickl y'all not used to it.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I was excited at first.
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: I can't imagine bo Jangles in New York.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Certain things I'm getting from New York.
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: No, I'm from Delaware, but I got a family. That's
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: why I have my family from down south. And I
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: only know what Bojangles from when I'm down south. Like
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: I know literally when you're driving when you hit certain
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: areas because you see yeah yeah.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: But like you look forward to in and Out. If
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I'm in Florida, I look forward to the looking. But
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: if in and Out came here, it'll be a line
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: for twenty day absolutely, And Chick fil A is still
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: a line of Chick fil A. And tell you it's
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: still a line Chick fil A. I know all this
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: stuff because I'm in it, right. Chick fil A average
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: unit volumes is seven million, that's the average, and worst
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: they do, our average unit volumes is two point nine million.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: I got one store, We got one store. That's doing
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: five million, which is amazing, right, Chick fil A averaged
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: or does seven millions? Crazy? In New York City, the
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: average does twelve million dollars. That's so somebody liked it,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying something.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I still like having a regional identity with some of
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: these franchises.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: I know they still do have a regional identity. They
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: definitely I think that's a Chick fil A come here people,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: that's you know, because let's be clear, most people from
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: New York lineages from the South, you know what I'm saying,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: So they used to coming back and forth Grandmama, Auntie
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: this or that, you know, so you know, once when
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: it came, it's like, whoa, this is here now, so
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: let's flood it, you know what I'm saying, because you know,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: you're not used to getting it.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: And once it's good, yeah, once it's good. You know.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: And your point you were saying earlier about our cheap
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: fast food used to be great point. What we did
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: with our company. We created a five dollar box outside
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: of corporate, outside of they can't really tell you what
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: to do with your pricing, and that five dollar box
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: our company is now comping twelve percent higher in corporate
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: an average because it could afford it, you know what
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. So now everybody's running to our stores for
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: the five dollar box Crystal Mill deal.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, my kids want the pope The other day was
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: fourteen dollars. It was just for strips, fries and the juice.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: And I could not believe. I said, Nah, we're gonna
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: go home and cook. I hit the town of Cook.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: I couldn't.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: I could not give Popeyes, Sloop Popeys fourteen dollars.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: And you know I got six kids.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: You left Popee, they had stuff?
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Would you cook? What did you cook? Burgers? How much
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: you think the burgers ran here?
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: So I ran, I said, I go to bj is
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: running big box of burgers, cousse. We twenty two dollars
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: for the big angus burgers and put them on the thing,
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: put the little fries in the thing and it was good.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: After twenty minutes they had their meals. You know, I'm
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: a pappy that cooks though, So you know.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: If this don't work out Bojangles.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: But y' all right about that five dollar price point, man,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: that ship changes a lot, like we got all changed.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: We got a four ninety nine deal for I think
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: it's what two crystal burgers, a small frying and drink.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Then we got a breakfast meal deal for two for
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: five hours. Bro, you can't get four for five dollars
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: nowhere right, So when you could and it's good, you know,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: people are running. I'm like, this is crazy with twelve
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: comping twelve percent higher. And I'm sure you've seen since
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: you did that, it just went crazy because let's be real,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: times is real rough right now? Patty? Four dollars right?
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Four dollars? Oh my god, that's crazy. See where you're
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: getting your bee Patty from? Though Bodegger, we might in
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: flat Bush, the first one coming to Flatbush.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: I wanted to ask, you know, back to be I
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: know you still deal with with with YACHTI what were
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: your thoughts when when I feel like everybody was attacking
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: Yachty and I feel like when sometimes we do things
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: wrong as a community, instead of having a conversation, were attacking,
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: we like to cancel and obviously had a conversation and
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: went back and apologized. So what was your thought when
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: you heard Yady's line?
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: And did you call him? Actually I didn't.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: I hadn't even talked to him until I seen because
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: he's he's in Australia on tour with with you know
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: so and I was I was just in Southeast eight,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: so we was kind of we miss each other until
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: every like him and Stephen had a conversation, you know
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But like when I heard, I was like,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: you know, me and Stephen were really good, We're real cool.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: You know, I was like, I'm gonna put them together.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: But it happened naturally because y'ally, you know, if he
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: makes a mistake, you know what I'm saying. The kid
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: is so he's just a really good person and he's free,
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and sometimes you know, a
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: lot of they just don't be thinking, you know. So
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: he's just going and writing the line come out and
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: then he gets to the backlash. You know, he's smart.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: He's like, I'm gonna hear Stephen. So he hit him personally,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. They talked personally, which everything
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: was cool. You know, he bossed up, did what he
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: needed to do, talk to him like a man. Did
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: that and it's gone, you know. But I mean a
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: lot of times I think, you know, these artists have
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: free will. Man and sometimes at the end and they
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: just they just writing and thinking and not thinking about
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: you know, everything else. You know what I'm saying, can
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: come with it. But and I don't think he was attacked.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: People use it at a moment to.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Teach, for sure.
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: I watched the documentary you guys did with JT when
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: she first came home, and it showed how, like also
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: to a Little Babies documentary, you guys are almost it's
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: such a family or felt like such a family at.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: This man. It's family oriented. Man, That's how we run
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: our business, you know, because.
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: I'm just wondering now, like how the dynamic works because
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: it's just JT. And are you guys still I do
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: still see like young Miami talking about you guys.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it's our relationship, Like we still have a great relationship,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: see Miami. We text each other every Everything is still cool.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: It's just at the time where she wanted to go
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: with her career, just things didn't It didn't match your work,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: you know. So it was like, hey, I'm not going
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: to never hold nobody back, you know what I'm saying,
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: that's what you want to do. You're free, you know
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: your free will, you can go you know and explore
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: any option you want to do.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: It's still love too.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: Did it break your heart still?
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: Because I think we were all waiting for them to
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: have that big, major run together.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: It didn't break my heart because I've been in the
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: game a long time and I know people grow apart,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, be real, Like that's
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: why I think a lot of if you look in
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: the business, we were the only ones out there with groups.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Everybody was scared of groups.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean they I used to get man,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: you're crazy, you know, to do a group. But I
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: think that's what that was our sweet spot, you know
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So it didn't break my heart just
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: because you know, hip hop raised me and I watched
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: and studied you know music, you know what I'm saying.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: And I mean, eventually people are going to grow apart,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And we worked hard at it,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: you know, and who knows, one day it may happen again,
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: But like people just grow apart. How did the untimely
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: passion of a takeoff.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: I mean packing to this day still, you know what
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: I'm saying like take Off was probably one of the nicest, humble,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: like any artist I ever worked with. You know what
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like he just was It was God's child, man,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, like for real, and.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: That moment. Man, I'm still messed up on that moment. Man.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: It's even hard to talk about it, you know what
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, just because you know, yeah, that's a hard one, bro.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely does it feel safer, Well, you know you
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: got him up there to with this money you said,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: God got him, but he got the halo over That's.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Dope, But it's a fire room. Man.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Does it feel safer to invest in franchises over people?
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't gonna lie to you. Yeah, man, I
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: mean in a way, you still invested in people, right,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: because like I said, we went down because we didn't
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: have the right people. We got the right people, and
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: those people like made the business work much better. So like,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: but overall, absolutely, And it's crazy. Like Larry Larry Monroe,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: a good friend of mine New York, he told me
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: you got these QSR restaurants, and I was like, that's dope,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: because like, as a people, like we need to understand
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: how Like it's a lot of money in it, you
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, and we just don't know. Like
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: we got it's thirty two restaurants that makes us the
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: number one black QSR franchise owners, which is quick service restaurant.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: But look at this. I got a friend, one of
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: my really really close friends who also helped me. I
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: won't say his name, but they got seven hundred and
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: something Popeyes and Burger Kings. They're not even in the
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: top six. Wow. So look at that, right, being being
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: black is a huge accomplishment, and I'm so thankful to
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: be part of it. But thirty two puts us at
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: number one, seven hundred, don't put him at number five six.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: So it's just like so many of these businesses that
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: one it's hard for us to get into because I
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have got in if I didn't have those mentors.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't even think about it. Coach wouldn't have got
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: in if it wasn't for me. So it's just like
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: when I hear you was doing it, I'm like, man,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: that's dope. You got some good guidance or you just
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: really map it out, and it's like that sign that
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: could last forever for your kids, kids kids. These people
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about six hundred day I had it for
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: three generations already. So it's just like for us, it
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: is better to invest in something like that than people.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: But you invest in the right people, like little Baby
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: there's that. You know, Yachty coach hit it four or
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: five times. I don't even think Rockefeller hit it as
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: much as QC did it, Like nobody really did it
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: like them. So it's just like, but how many shots
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: you took, you know what I'm saying. So to answer
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: that question, I think it is more safer to invest
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: in QSR, especially something that's established already, because you could
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: get behind something that's not as established and it blow
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: up or it don't, and more more times than less
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: it don't blow up. Because being an entrepreneur in business
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: is really hard. I know that.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: I think both, you know, because I mean, like I said,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: my twenty eight years of my career existence in music
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: has been investing in people. You know, I'm just learning
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: now you know the other business, you know what I mean,
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: like for real, for real, I got to saying I
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: always say, like damn, you know, being in a business
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: so long and investing people. I'm like, bo I gotta
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: give me something that don't talk back, you know what
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: I'm saying.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: No, just been for real, you know.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: So that's when I start diversifying and looking at investments
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: in different things, you know what I'm saying, Because I
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: was so lasered in like locked in with music, you
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Like I said, I'm a creative,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: So it's like I never even looked outside of that
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: until like a couple of years ago.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, let me start. You know, as I'm.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Getting older, you know, I probably won't be able to
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: do this forever.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: It's being real, So let me just start, you know,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: looking at my options.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: Was that like a like something that happened that made
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: you think about that? It was literally just you reflecting on.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Like like years old.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like I'm not going to
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: do music and chase artists and you know forever, you
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: So, and you know, I have children, I have a family.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: You know, I came up in poverty, you know, so
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: I want to change the way that looks for my
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: children and my grandchildren.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: You know. So, so let me start.
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: Diversify a lot of the artists you've worked with too,
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: there's always like an entrepreneurial spirit about them, and y'all
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: empower them to do that.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: That's I mean, I'm telling you, developing an artist, you
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: turn them into a brand.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: And me being a manager for so long, you know,
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: I only ate off the ancillary. I never ate off
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: the product. The ancillary and the ancillary is all the
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: businesses built around the artists. So once when you build
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: an artist, it's like, okay, my soon as I sign
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: of artists, I'm like, yo, so how.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Big do you want to go? You know?
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: I said, my goal is to turn you into a brand.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Are you ready for that?
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: I want to turn into a brand and everything you touch,
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: all the ancillary that you think. You know, you like this,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: you like that, Let's turn that into a business that's
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: where you control and your own you know.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: So I like having y'all up here, man and having
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: this conversation because when people see y'all, it's inspiring, Like
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: there's so many people that look like us that don't
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: even know things like this are possible. You know what
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, like franchising, like it's something I always wanted
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: to do, thinking about like what E Class was doing
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: and for sure you know, and.
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: How did you get into trying to get No?
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I got it was watching people like it, bro.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: But I got into it because because the two Change,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: because you know, Two Changs became the head of creative
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: marketing for Crystal.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: And then I saw a little duball.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Little Uball was down that do Ball did with all
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: the Crystal burg and I'm like, damn, I see Crystal
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: in the minute.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I just asked him where you get that from?
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: And that's when he told me about Two Changs And
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, two Change had the creative marketers.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: I hit him change Tech.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, man, I want to talk about just
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: seeing what's over Crystal.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: And they plugged me right in. That's crazy. They plugged
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: me right in and it just made sense. My team
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: was like, yo, let's do it. You know what we
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: do for brands as a culture, like it's it's crazy.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Like even Rick Ross. I don't know Rick Ross, but
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: like you know, uh, Wingstop. When Rick Ross got Wingstop,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Wingstop was trading at like three times and multiple so
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: that means if they ebotize them two million dollars, the
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: most you could sell it for six I don't know
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: if it's Rick Ross, but between that time and now
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Ringstop is trading at nine times, you got to give
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Ross a lot of credit for that. That's what I'm saying.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Think about before nobody was thinking about it. So it's
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: like again between him, you know, it's nine times. Now
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: that's that's insane. So it's like we we add a
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: lot of value to ship that we don't own a
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: lot of times, you know what I'm saying. So I
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: don't own Both Jangles, but I'm own these restaurants and
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna help build it up, you know what I'm saying,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: instead of just like taking some money to help promo them.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, again, I want to preach
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: to these kids, like you gotta own something, you gotta
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: you gotta own sign and congrats on the crystals, y'all.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: It's inspired hearing y'all Talk thirty twenty eight, currently operating,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: thirty two coming.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Oh that's incredible, and next week one on the campus
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: A U G A One Man that's the band Wow
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: and uh the first one downtown Florence. You know, so, yeah,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: we're excited about that. Where are you from it? Are
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: you close to from Florence?
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: While to Charles, I was raised the most corner, so
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: most corners, like thirty minutes from Charleston.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you're on that side. Yeah, yep, low country.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you the brothers for joining us. Man, you
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: guys couraging and keep pushing. I got one last question.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: I know, Coach, I know you on the road all
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: the time. I know you probably never home. I see
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: you on the road when you're gonna sell me to
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: eat thirty m three convertible that you have.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Coach has a car Bee trying to buy for the
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: longest time.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: You don't want to sell it to me?
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: Why don't you sell me that car? He should have
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: bought it. He was supposed to. It was his car.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: It was you know.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: And then I was being cheap my business partner.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: It was I remember it's twenty eighteen and we just
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: renegotiated and it was my birthday and he was like
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: I was on the computer looking at the car, and uh,
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: my assistant at the time, he was like, Hey, what
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: was that car Coach was looking at? Because I always
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: used to be on the computer. And she went in
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: and went in my thing and gave it to him.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: And he's like, man, pull up to the studio. I
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: pulled up to the studio and they backed that thing.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, backed it off the damn trailer.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: I was like, but I should have bought it. When
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: when when I got it, and he see said, man,
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: you know I was that was my car. I was
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: supposed to because the car said new Yard said New Jersey.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: And my Long Island, Long Island and my Long Island.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Yep, you know it's crazy. I just got over cars.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: I sold him my Rose Royce. I always told me
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: I got a good deal. Yes, I did. Never been
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: round the body, Crystal, That's what I'm saying. I just
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: love mind living in New York. I had three cars
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: and I was taking Ubers everywhere. But the cause we
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: buy it is a little different. They go up in value.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: The cause. I used to be all you because you're.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: Driving around Brooklyn and it's Bentley Ice Blue Bentley. Then
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: you got a color in.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you doing? You can't even drive
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: in New York. Real like they had a thousand cars
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: though I gotta do this. I don't know. Race Collection
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: allowed me to give a shout out, but I got
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: to shout out my daughter Milan and a Hampton University
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: crew that's listening. That's right, the real Hu, the real Hu.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: You know, she's a junior right now. Like it, she
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: love it. She chose. I wanted to go to Howard,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: but she made the right shout out to my little sister,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: you know, Uh, Mike Novo, Ben Black, Stephen Man, Cherian
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Rhanda Omar and all the people that really helped me.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: You know, it's a lot more, but just want to
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: shout them out. They really are live a big role
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: in my life.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: All right, Well, Coach k Melcarter, Yes, indeed, it's the
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: Breakfast Club in the morning.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Hold up, every day I wake up, click your ass
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: up the Breakfast Club.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Y'all finished?
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: So y'all done.