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Edible and Exotic Trees with Tatiana Anderson [011026] · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 2: People can talk and chat back and forth Tiger as
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  Speaker 2: you know, and we can see those chats.
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  Speaker 4: And that's part of, you know, why we do this.
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  Speaker 4: It gives people that opportunity to interact with you know,
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  Speaker 4: each hole that are that are having a trouble in
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  Speaker 4: the garden, or maybe they have a success they want
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  Speaker 4: that they might have about what they want to grow
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  Speaker 4: or do.
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  Speaker 2: Let's be honest, they get tired of us pretty quickly. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And so by doing so they can chat amongst themselves exactly.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I mean I had last week, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we were talking about my obsession with aliums and trying
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  Speaker 4: to grow them and where was it that somebody was
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  Speaker 4: Was it growing them up in not Huntington Beach? Who
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  Speaker 4: was it that said they had success? Oh no, no, no,
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  Speaker 4: it was in Hamoul, like you know, East County, San Diego.
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  Speaker 4: It was Rochelle, I think, and she was growing them, was.
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  Speaker 2: It or was it someplace that we couldn't believe they
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  Speaker 2: would actually grow there?
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  Speaker 4: Well? I think it was just you know, kind of
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  Speaker 4: more eastern San Diego where it gets.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit cooler, and well, a person that called
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  Speaker 3: us was from otion side, and it had gotten.
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  Speaker 4: Them right, and we had said, no.
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  Speaker 3: It's probably not going to work. But then we did
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  Speaker 3: have someone.
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  Speaker 4: That chimed in and said they had success, and it
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  Speaker 4: was in southern California, but I think it was more
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  Speaker 4: in the like Mountain area. But but yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you know, that's always fun to hear, fun to you know,
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  Speaker 4: hear people have success and then see what they do different.
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  Speaker 2: I like to hear you say the word alium, alium, alium.
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  Speaker 4: Do you see it? Do you? I mean, could it
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  Speaker 4: be a liam or is it alium or is it aliam?
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  Speaker 2: How do you say it? John?
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  Speaker 3: You know you can say it however you want, because
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  Speaker 3: I had somebody tell me that it should have been
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  Speaker 3: pronounced you kalipedis instead of.
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  Speaker 2: Can you say you klipeds on the radio? I just did,
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  Speaker 2: or in any forms of media.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Lisa I've been reading says it's thirty five
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  Speaker 3: degrees up there, we're not much warmer. And I'll tell
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  Speaker 3: you what it'll be like forty outside right now, No,
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  Speaker 3: forty three when you got here, right yeah, forty three?
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  Speaker 3: It was forty three but I looked, I said, I
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  Speaker 3: looked at my phone and says, forty three feels like
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  Speaker 3: thirty four?
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  Speaker 4: Does it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Oh man, because it was a little windy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the wind that I wrote an article
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  Speaker 3: for the newsletter about how wind can be sometimes be
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  Speaker 3: worse for plants than cold because it drives them out,
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  Speaker 3: especially if you're really cold and the plants roots are resting,
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  Speaker 3: they can't take up moisture and they're being desiccated.
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  Speaker 2: But like turning the heat on in your house when
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  Speaker 2: you have houseplants to houseplants, the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, except kind of the reverse, the reharse.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So I mean it's it's definitely. Wind is a
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  Speaker 4: huge factor that we in southern California don't always get
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  Speaker 4: affected by because you know, big areas that with big storms,
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  Speaker 4: they naturally naturally get their trees trimmed. Yeah, naturally, right,
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  Speaker 4: naturally get those things figured out. Where us you know,
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  Speaker 4: I mean driving up here, we have all these palm trees, right,
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  Speaker 4: and people that don't trim those palms, they have all
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  Speaker 4: the all the fronds and the seeds and the flowers.
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  Speaker 2: It looks horrible. I hate that.
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  Speaker 4: And it just comes down with the wind. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 4: you can see it never happens because it's all still there.
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  Speaker 2: What was it about a year or so ago, that
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  Speaker 2: fire that took place off mine Zuma.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like a couple of years ago, for sure, it
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  Speaker 4: was already Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well I was driving by bout a week ago. Looks
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  Speaker 2: you can almost see that nothing ever happened. And there's
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  Speaker 2: a little scorching still.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, in a lot of those trees
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  Speaker 4: are alive. Oh yeah, like meaning like they're scorched, but
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  Speaker 4: then they're growing. Yeah, you know, new fronds, they're growing
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  Speaker 4: new branches. Yeah, it's pretty impressive.
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  Speaker 2: And John is checking on our Facebook page right now
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  Speaker 2: with the comments John, what do you have for us?
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  Speaker 3: Well, John wanted to know with all his frame, can
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  Speaker 3: you explain why it's beneficial to the gardens?
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  Speaker 4: Oh? So many levels? Right, Yeah, rainwater, I mean rain
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  Speaker 4: absolutely forget about the idea that the plants are naturally
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  Speaker 4: getting watered in the sense of like, you know, good watering.
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  Speaker 4: But rain water is what kind of water? Yeah, oxygen,
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  Speaker 4: it's got all kinds of other minerals in it. It
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  Speaker 4: has not the chemicals that we put in our water.
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  Speaker 4: I mean the fact that you know The other thing too,
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  Speaker 4: is people don't realize is like when you're watering a
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  Speaker 4: plant and you water at the base of the plant,
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  Speaker 4: that's good, you know, the plants get in the water.
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  Speaker 4: But plants have all these other roots in that soil,
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  Speaker 4: and sometimes it's hard to simulate that rain water drenching
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  Speaker 4: of soil. But rain does that, and the plants like
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  Speaker 4: that too.
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  Speaker 2: So rain spreads it out.
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  Speaker 3: John Right, Tanya mentioned she couldn't hear us, but everyone
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  Speaker 3: else can. So I don't know what to tell Tanya.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, refresh when in doubt, refresh?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, just refresh. We were talking before the
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  Speaker 3: show started. First of all, I wanted to mention we
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  Speaker 3: have an excellent show plan today because we're going to
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  Speaker 3: have our friend Tatiana Anderson on from from Florida, right
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  Speaker 3: from Florida from Top Tropicals. Yeah, so we's got a
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  Speaker 3: ton of things to talk about. And when I took
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  Speaker 3: that little side there, I forgot what we're talking about.
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  Speaker 4: You were saying, we're gonna have an excellent show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, But what was I saying before that?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, because then you said something about going
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  Speaker 4: in and we're gonna have an excellent show.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, This is where you reach out to the people
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  Speaker 2: that are watching us right now on Facebook act and
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  Speaker 2: actually remind John what we were talking about.
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  Speaker 4: Oh that's so funny. Well, I mean, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: you were reading something.
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  Speaker 3: Oh what I was going to say was you were
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  Speaker 3: right about the alliums. Oh, okay, Rochelle. Rochelle said that
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  Speaker 3: she has them in Blossom Valley.
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  Speaker 2: Blossom Valley, Okay, Blossom Valley.
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  Speaker 4: Right, that's impressive.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, we should welcome people that are listening to this,
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  Speaker 3: I learned something new this week, well many things, and
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  Speaker 4: How much time do we have?
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  Speaker 2: We get about two minutes?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, because I want you to share the story about that.
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  Speaker 2: About the rose.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's kind of a long story.
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  Speaker 2: Well can you make it to short? Can you hit
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  Speaker 2: it all?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 3: I had to give a presentation at the la I
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  Speaker 3: presentation was a nineteen twenty hybrid t that is extremely
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  Speaker 2: It's grainy black and white, rainy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a grainy black and white picture. And so that
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  Speaker 3: I saw there's something in the background. It looks like.
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  Speaker 2: Writing, ancient writing, but it was French actually right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, But I didn't know that. So I just asked Gemini.
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  Speaker 3: I said, what is that in the background, the smudges
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  Speaker 3: in the background, And they said, oh, it's a bleed
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  Speaker 3: through text in a mirror image of something in French.
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  Speaker 3: They said, would you like me to interpret it? So
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  Speaker 3: I said yeah, so it reversed, the image interpreted and
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  Speaker 3: it turned out it was a catalog description of Let's
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  Speaker 3: see me dely Rose, which is the newsletter of the
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  Speaker 3: French Rose Society.
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  Speaker 2: This is from the twenties.
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  Speaker 3: From the twenties. Yeah, so the pages, I guess, had
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  Speaker 3: bled through and that's how they got the description over
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  Speaker 3: the picture, this old photo, and it said would you
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  Speaker 3: like me to When it said would you like me
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  Speaker 3: to translate? It translated it turned out to be a
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  Speaker 3: description of the and it said would you like me
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  Speaker 3: to show you what this rose would look like?
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  Speaker 4: That's so amazing.
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  Speaker 3: And it changed the whole picture colored it. I mean
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  Speaker 3: it still looked the same. It was a bouquet.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this colors the style according.
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  Speaker 3: To the description.
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  Speaker 2: You know what you should have done is take a
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  Speaker 2: picture of the rose before and then after and then
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  Speaker 2: post it on Facebook so people can see them. People
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  Speaker 2: could see the difference. Here's the original black and white,
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  Speaker 2: and here's what it did afterwards. Okay, we've got Tatiana,
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  Speaker 2: who's going to be with us, yes, segment, we've got
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  Speaker 2: Back after these.
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  Speaker 5: Messages, welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
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  Speaker 5: John and Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, welcome back to Garden America and welcome those
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  Speaker 2: on Bistalk Radio Facebook Live. We've got Tatiana lined up
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  Speaker 2: and ready to go. But first of all, some people
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  Speaker 2: think this is the best part of the show. John,
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  Speaker 2: your quote of the weeks or weekend. Here we go.
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  Speaker 3: It was an interesting quote and I picked it because
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  Speaker 3: it relates to gardening and to New Year's resolutions.
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  Speaker 2: How about that? Huh?
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  Speaker 3: And it's hard to get quotes like that, but this
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  Speaker 3: quote is promises that you make to yourself are often
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  Speaker 3: like the Japanese plumb tree, they bear no fruit. And
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  Speaker 3: the quote Tiger probably won't know this, but you will, Brian,
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  Speaker 3: the quotes from Francis Marion. And do you know who
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  Speaker 3: Francis Marion is?
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  Speaker 2: Right? There was an old dictionary I think I should
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 3: No, not Marion Webster. The There was a Walt Disney
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  Speaker 3: TV show years ago and called the Swamp Fox. Do
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  Speaker 3: you remember that?
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  Speaker 2: I do not?
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  Speaker 4: You don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't you know who the swamp Fox was like
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  Speaker 3: fought in Was it Louisiana, like New Orleans during the Suns?
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  Speaker 3: Very French during the French or during the American Revolution.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, he was the swamp Fox. Francis Marion. So
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  Speaker 3: interesting to look that up. I'm sure a lot of
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  Speaker 3: our listeners remember the swamp Fox.
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  Speaker 4: So from from the swamp Fox, we have a different fox.
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  Speaker 4: Our friend from Fort Myers, Florida is joining us on
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  Speaker 4: the phone. Good morning, Tatiana, how are you.
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  Speaker 6: Good morning guys. Happy to see your Happy New Year
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  Speaker 6: to everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, happy new Year, Harry. Happy to hear you now.
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  Speaker 4: Tatiana wanted to just well check real quick, making sure
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  Speaker 4: you can hear It's so okay, everything sounds good, yep,
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  Speaker 4: all right, perfect, all right, We're good to go. And
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  Speaker 4: sometimes there's always a little question of.
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  Speaker 2: What I'm not wearing headphones. I'll take your word for it.
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  Speaker 4: So Tatiana is joining us from Fort Miles, Florida, where
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  Speaker 4: she has her nursery Top Tropicals. They specialize in all
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  Speaker 4: kinds of wonderful tropical fruit trees, just tropical plants in
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  Speaker 4: general there and also do a mail order program, so
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  Speaker 4: if you're interested in ordering some of her plants, you
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  Speaker 4: can go on to her website Top Tropicals and order plants. Tatiana,
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  Speaker 4: we brought you on this morning to discuss winterizing these
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  Speaker 4: tropical plants because we're getting into that time of year.
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  Speaker 4: I mean we were just talking earlier in the show
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  Speaker 4: about how cold it got here, you know, down into
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  Speaker 4: the thirties and forties and low fifties. So you know,
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  Speaker 4: tropical plants don't like that, right.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you what. I have a very good
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  Speaker 6: opportunity now to to get more experience was called for
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  Speaker 6: tropical plants because five years ago we got the second
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  Speaker 6: location in central Florida in Sybrin Florida, and I planted
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  Speaker 6: a tea garden. We have ten acres sea property in Cypring,
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  Speaker 6: and we planted over one hundred varieties of mango, probably
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  Speaker 6: as many avocados. And through these several winters, I've had
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  Speaker 6: some experience to see and some of it was very surprising.
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  Speaker 6: In fact, some plants, some species and varieties that they
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  Speaker 6: are less sensitive than with thoughts. Really so yeah, so
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  Speaker 6: I even discovered some mango varieties that are more hardy
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  Speaker 6: than others. I didn't know it. You know, I've been
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  Speaker 6: growing mangos for twenty five something years and I didn't
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  Speaker 6: know that some some species can be more hearty. So
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  Speaker 6: it was some a few good surprises which had a
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  Speaker 6: even a prost bite. We have minimum temperature thirty two
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  Speaker 6: points thirty one point two. So yeah, because I have
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  Speaker 6: sensors everywhere on the property and every greenhouse, every distic
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  Speaker 6: garden has its sensor. So we had for a few
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  Speaker 6: hours we had some some it was we had cross
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  Speaker 6: on the grass, but so far in open woods there
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  Speaker 6: was no significant damage. And I'll tell you what the
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  Speaker 6: interesting thing I discovered that the factors that actually affect
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  Speaker 6: tropical plants during winter and what effect their hardiness. Uh,
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  Speaker 6: it's not just the temperature itself, it's it's I discovered
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  Speaker 6: four factors that actually affect your tropical plants, and it's
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  Speaker 6: very important if you take it in consideration. The first
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  Speaker 6: one is actually plant health. So if your tree is healthy,
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  Speaker 6: is strong established, if you fertilize it for during the
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  Speaker 6: growing period, you know during summertime and fall, it takes
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  Speaker 6: wintery much easier than less established plants, which is obvious
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  Speaker 6: of course, this is the most important factor, how established
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  Speaker 6: your plant is. The second one is duration of that
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  Speaker 6: whole period. It's not just the temperature, its salt, it's
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  Speaker 6: the duration. Because what I noticed is like if you
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  Speaker 6: have several days of forty two degrees, you get more
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  Speaker 6: damage or from that long, long, long period of cool temperature,
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  Speaker 6: you'll get more damage on your leave than from just
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  Speaker 6: a couple hours of a light frost. Yes, this is
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  Speaker 6: the most important duration. The third factor is like you
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  Speaker 6: guys just started discussing it, it's exposure and wind chill.
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  Speaker 6: So if you have chili wind, if you if your
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  Speaker 6: plant is exposed to I mean it's not surrounded by
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  Speaker 6: some canopies, it also has more chances to get some
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  Speaker 6: frost bite. And what I also discovered that you should
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  Speaker 6: water your plants before the cold. We always think that
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  Speaker 6: you know it's getting cold, let's just reduce a water,
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  Speaker 6: right logical, But make sure your plants not like bone dry.
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  Speaker 6: They need to be juicy. Make sure you leave stay
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  Speaker 6: juicy and saturated with juices and water well watered, and
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: that gives them a better better conditions for taking over
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: you know, surviving that cold. Because like you already mentioned,
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: I think John started talking about it that the no
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: tiger that uh, the wind chill, the strong wind can
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: dry out you leave m rise it out. So make
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: sure it's to water your plants. And again of course
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: the fourth factor, like I said, there's four factors. The
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: four factor is temperature itself, but you see it's not
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: the most important one. Yeah, the temperature itself is not
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: just the most critical factor. It's number one plant health
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: and vigor. How well you maintain your plant, how strove
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: it is number two duration of that cold period right.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: Number three exposure and the winds, wind chill that dries
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: out your plant. Make sure it's to water your plant,
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: and only number four is the temperature itself. It's just
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: a little bit of a practical science.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know a lot of people
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: don't realize watering too is also important because it decreases
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: a fross. A lot of people will water their yard
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: during a frost because water is warmer than the cold air,
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: and it actually will protect the plants from getting frost
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: because you're putting that warm substance into the area and
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: it doesn't allow it to dry out too much. Heye, Tatiana,
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: We're about to pause for another break or for a break,
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: but I do want to, you know, just mention to
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: our listeners once again. We're we're we're chatting with Tatiana
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: from Top Tropicals in Florida. If you have any questions
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: regarding any kind of tropical plant care through the winter,
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: any you know, varieties or anything like that. We're going
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: we get back from the program. We're going to talk
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: a little bit about some of the fruit trees that
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: through the winter and what we need to do for
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: those and what varieties do better than others.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: All right, so do stay with us, and again, thank
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: you so much those on BIS Talk Radio. Big thanks
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: to Tatiana. It is guard in America. I'm going to
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: take a break, as so Tiger mentioned back after these
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: messages and more with Tatiana from Florida. After these messages
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: on BIS Talk Radio.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: John and Tiger.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Alrighty, that was a great break, and we are back
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: from San Diego, California, John's library here in Fallbroough, California.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: We're talking tropicals. Yeah, top tropicals, right to the top
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: of the tropical, the top of the tropicals. And we
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: welcome back Tatiana.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: You know, Tatiana, I was looking at your website, and
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: first of all, I want our listeners to know if
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: you want information, go to Tatiana's website at toptropicals dot com.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: There's so much information there you won't believe how much
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Tiger so many videos that I'd looked up something on
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: AI and it gives you the sources of where the
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: information came from. No, not all, but I actually did
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: have top tropicals. Sure one of the sources.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Super cool.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is so neat. But Tatiana, I wanted to
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: ask you. I was, you know, talking about how hardy
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: some plants are. I was looking at your selection of
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: avocados and I saw, if I'm not mistaken, that you
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: had an avocado that you said would handle a temperature
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: down to fifteen degrees. Now, you just told us about
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: the fourth for winter reasons that affect plants, and so
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: it would depend how long it was fifteen degrees. I
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: know they're not going to take fifteen degrees for a week,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: for a week or a month, But is it true
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: that some avocados can actually survive that.
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: Yes, there is a whole like a line of varieties.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: There was selected specifically for some testas areas I believe
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: San Antonio, Texas right, And there is a number of
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: avocados that have called cold They are called cold hardie avocados.
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: There is varieties Brothers Belle, Fantastic Motels, Joey Puncho, lielam.
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: There is quite a few I can actually I can.
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: I can put them in your comments. I can put
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: some names of the varieties. That's cold hardie, and yes
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: they do take down to fifteen degrees, but don't take
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: it literally. First of all, the tea must be well established.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: It has to be a mature tree two three four
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: years old tree will take that that that cold for
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: several hours. Like you said, you're not expecting for distant
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: degrees for five days. Young trees, let's say, if you
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: have them in three yellow not just planted them in
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: the ground. You still want to protect them the same
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: way like you was protected avocados varieties, but probably one
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: or two winters in you can really and you know
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: you don't have to protect them for just one or
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: two hours. They will take some cold. There is some
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: really nice cold hardier varieties. And the good part is
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: they are those that will like you know, the black
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: avocados that are really buttery, and you like to eat
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: the fresh not the Florida degree. And everybody criticizes all
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: avocado sea they know that tasty. But I'll tell you what.
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: I have some varieties here in our gardens, green varieties.
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: They is so called florid, the giant, g enormous fruit.
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: But they're so tasty. They even taste better than that
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: famous California huts. You know, I like them better. I
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: discovered varieties of avocados that I never I never even
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: expressed them to be so tasty, but they greed. Maybe
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: it's just because they grow in your garden and you
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: fertilize them, you share them, and you don't seek. You
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: don't seek the green fruit out of the tree.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, your fruit is always better than the store.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: About roots, he regard, Hey, regarding the avocadas, You have
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: a question for you because we talk about avocados having
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: shallow root systems, which means that you know a lot
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: of times that there you water over the large area
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: of the of the root system, not necessarily just right
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: at the base of the plant. In a cold situation,
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: would you also want to mulch because you're protecting some
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: of those roots because there's show shallow. Is it not
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: that important?
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: Welsh's important for every tropical plant in winter. Just remember
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: the more mauls the patae, just make sure to keep
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: it away from the truck so it doesn't create rocking conditions, right, water. Avocado, well,
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: it likes water, but it doesn't like wet feet. So
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: which means when you plant your avocado tree in the ground,
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: planted on the little hill, it's like so the growing
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: point is just a few inches higher than the red
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: of the you know, of your mulch area because they're
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: very sensitive to you know, like a soggy conditions. Yes,
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: they're very tricky at the beginning. But once it starts growing,
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: then you don't have to baby seated. It should be fine,
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: but at the beginning you really have to, you know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: provide them the best a lot of water, but good drainage.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: That's the key.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: Well, that's why I think they like it here in
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Fallbrook because they're basically growing on the side of cliffs here.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: If you drive around fall Brook to see where these
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: avocado orchards are, they're just on the side of mountains literally,
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: so the water isn't sticking around there at all.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: The rule of thumb and planting an avocado and Fallbrook
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: is if you can dig the hole, you can plant
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: the other.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: So true.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: Yes, And another thing about avocados, I was going to
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: mention that the dwarf avocadas, there is several varieties of
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: avocado that you can grow in pots and they produce
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: really well. You can get some really nice crop from them,
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: like Joey. Uh, of course is the best wharf avocado condo.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: They call it condo Avocado and Fuerta. These three Fuerta
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: wools and Joey you can grow them in pots and
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: you can bring them inside if it gets really cold.
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: So for people who live outside of the tropical areas,
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: those are good solutions, these three varieties.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: I think the worst I think the words avocado and
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: was marketed at least in southern California by Durlings is
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: little Cado. Do you remember that tigers?
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Was it? Yeah?
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: You know Tatiana talking about the cold heartiness of avocados,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: you mentioned Texas. I know there was a guy and
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I think he was in Austin, Texas. There was actually
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: breeding cold hardy avocados. Really, But like Tatiana says, if
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: you want to plant an avocado and you live in
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: an area where it's going to get that cold all
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: winter or every winter, you don't want to planet where
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: you want to plant those cold cardi cold hardy avocados
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: are in areas that get infrequent freezes, you know where
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: it would be unusual to have that type of weather.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: So a lot of the California inland areas where normally
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: they don't get a freeze. But you know every few
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: years you go down to the twenties or something like that,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: that's where you would use those types.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: So Tatiana regarding you know, you mentioned the condo avocados
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: keeping them in pots of that way you can kind
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: of move them in and out. Is that something that
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: let's say, what about the room that you keep them in?
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: You know, are you going to put that avocado just
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: in your garage or or does it have to still
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: have all the light of outdoors as well?
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: Well? The only plant that can grow without light is
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: I guess plastic one right, and probably a glen emma.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: It can grow in your closet. But yes, of course
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: you need to provide the best light. The better, the
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: more light the better. But a plant can sit in
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: your garage to several days, several nights, even if you
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: just keep the light on it, just give it something, right.
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: I just had during this cold snap that we had
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: over the New Year New Year's Eve, I moved some
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: ridicule insensitive plants inside my garage and I had just
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: a little window, you know, like a little skylight, and
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: they were sitting there for probably five or six days
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: and nothing. Sometimes it can get a little leaf drop
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: because of the shock of you know, lack of light.
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: But you know, the ship plants, so the plant when
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: you get chip to California, especially, it takes five to
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: six days to get there to you guys, and the
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: plants usually find our customers are pretty happy with the results.
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: They can take a few days of no light, but
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: if you keep it for several months in your garage,
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: it has to be some kind of a lighting either.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: You have to install additional lights. With even just a
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: bunch of you know, house lights will work. Just the
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: bright the brighter the better. You just need the amount
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: of light. It doesn't matter the spectrum. Even though they say, oh,
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: it's important that you have to buy this expensive grow
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: light so you don't provide a lot of light.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: You Tatiana, I'm glad that you mentioned shipping to California
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: because a lot of nurseries in California or in Florida
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: cannot ship into California. And what I like about your
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: website is on a every plant that you have you
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: put certified for shipping into California, right.
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, once a year. We have this special certification process.
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: Believe me, it's very painful process.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Hey, Tatana, we got to take a break. I'm sorry
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: to interrupt you. We're going to come right back. Those
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: that do stay with us. A break for our friends
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: on the Bistalk Radio, going to pay some bills, A
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: big thank you, a fertile moment to thank you, big
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: thank you also to Tatiana who has been very generous
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: with the time this morning from Top Tropicals. John, do
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: we have any questions comments when we come back.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: We've got comments. Okay, no question, Chef, but I have
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: lots of questions.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I'm sure we will continue. If you're tuned in on
• 30:39
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• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: John and Tiger.
• 31:21
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• 31:24
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• 31:37
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• 31:39
  Speaker 2: this segment back with Tatiana.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know, the you know, the thing I
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: wanted to mention with Tatiana before we have to wrap
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: up this interview is, you know, as John mentioned before,
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: so much great information on your website, videos, blogs, so
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: anything regarding tropicals, whether it's fruit, trees, or plants. Go
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: to the Tropicals website, take a look at all their
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: information and what they're sharing. Because the cool thing about
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: interacting with Tatiana and you know on this subject is
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: she has, like she mentioned right when she opened the show,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: real life experience in the sense of growing these in
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: places that maybe you know, you wouldn't think you're successful
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: in growing them, and how they react, and what she's
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: succeeded with and what she's failed with. So you know,
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: it's really good to get that straight from Tatiana. So
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: thank you very much for joining us this morning. Tatiana.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: Thank you for the opportunity I always love your shows, guys,
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: thanks so much.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so, you know, the before the last break we
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: were kind of talking about bringing some of those trees inside.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Are there any other things that people need to think
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: about in terms of winterrizing any kind of tropical plants.
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: Well, there's a couple of things I also would like
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: to mention. First of all, winter is a good time
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: to plant your trees in the mild climate. And the
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: reason why is because it makes it easy for the
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: root system to establish. So you look at your tree
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: and it seems like it's not growing. It dropped all
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: the leaves, right you think it's just sleeping, but the
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: roots continue growing, and it's a good time to plant
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: right now if it doesn't get too cold. Of course,
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: I don't know what area, depending on what area you
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: live in, but if it doesn't get too freezing, planting
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: in the ground is a good time. Besides, it's city
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: for yourself. You know, it's more fun than sweating out
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: in summertime. So that that's one thing. It's a good
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: time to plant now, so just pick your varieties properly,
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: you know. And another thing, another thing I was going
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: to mention, when when you grow plants inside during winter
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: when you bring your babies inside, right, you bring your pots.
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: You wait until the warmer weather comes. Make sure to
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: provide a lot of light. Make sure to keep humidity
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: well it leaves. Don't put it next to air conditioners,
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: to the you know, to the heating systems. So they
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: plants like humid air. They don't like it dry, right, uh.
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: And just water minimum. Don't water too much because soya
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: conditions with a low light, it's not a good combination.
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: So that's probably the most important part. And just be
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: patient because plants during winter, no matter if they outside
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: or inside, they slow down. You just have to be
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: patient with them. Don't put too much fertilizer. I mean
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: we say don't fertilize it all during winter, right, but
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: you still can use liquid fertilizers because you reduce water,
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: and liquid fertilizer comes with water, so you get left
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: water left fertilizer, especially if you use like something like
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: we use Punscha and boosters. These are amine acid based.
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: They it's not going to burn your roots. So pretty much,
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: just be patient with your plants during winter time and
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: bring them indoors. I posted the link you can read
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: the whole article about how to how to take care
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: of your plants indoors, how to bring your jungle indoors.
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: So I posted in your comments.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: There, well you're used to doing that from living in
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Moscow right in your apartment bringing a jungle in there.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: Much different growing environments.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Right, I wanted to mention just just quickly. I know
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: that we have to close up pretty soon, Tiger, but
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I wanted we've been talking about fruit trees this whole time,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: but if you like tropical flowers, yeah, she has a
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: great selection of tropical flowers, shrubs, even trees if you want,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: but that aren't available anywhere else. So always and her
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: inventory is always changing, so I would say check it
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: on a regular basis.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: And as you was mentioning too, and right now is
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: a great time to plant them if if you're in
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: an area that's not under snow, but you can order
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: them from her and get them shipped, and right now,
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: you know, it's a great time to ship them because
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm sure you battle in the summertime shipping
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Tatiana where you know, if you ship a plant, you
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: know it goes through the middle of the country and
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: it might be in a hot truck or a hot
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: warehouse where now when you ship plants, you know they're
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: going to stay a little cooler through the transit and
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: get to your house a little a little better or
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: something like that. So you know, still a good time
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: to kind of interact with Tatiana and get some plants
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: for sure, Yeah, Tatia. And the last thing regarding your website,
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: you know, so when people go on there and John
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: mentioned so are all your plants able to be shipped
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: to California? Are only certain certified ones?
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: Most of them? I would say nine to nine percent
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: because the procedure what happens is, you know, when the
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: specture comes and whatever we have at this point on
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: the tables is getting certified. If you get some new plants,
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: then we need to recertify it. That's why people ask sometimes, oh,
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: welcome this one plant. You don't send California. Why is
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: it so because at the point when we had infections,
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: we didn't have it, you know, available, and so we
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: have to get the whole expensive procedure again. So it
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: usually just waits for another year for the next year.
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: So if you're waiting for something special, let us know.
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: We will put you on a wish list and we
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: will add this plan to certified list. This way you
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: can get it next year.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, perfect, Well, thank you again for joining us, Tatiana.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: I have a great rest of the weekend, and hopefully
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: your winter fares well there where you're at it. And sometimes
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: you've baltwed some storms and some weather coming through, but
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: hopefully you have a nice mild one. So thanks again
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: for joining us.
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: Thank you, stay warm, all right, bye.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Bye, Well, more tropicals. A lot of people aren't thinking
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: about tropicals right now if you're under snow.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: But uh, I think a lot of people are.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe they are under snow, maybe they're fantasizing, they
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: might be thinking of vacation against.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: But maybe they're not thinking about ordering them right now.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: But we we talked about that as well. All right,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: let's explain what we're going to do again top of
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: the hour for those that are getting used to what
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: we do here.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: I have something to show you, guys, oh for the
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: next spot, something that I've done the first time. I've
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: never I have this grafting tool. I don't think I've
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: ever shown it to you before, but I I finally
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: tried grafting a rose, and I can't believe how easy.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: It is what so you can use it with grafting
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: other things too, So I want to show you that.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, so we're actually going to shut down, so don't panic,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: don't panic.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: Shut down the show. We will relog in. It's going
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: to take us about five, you know, six minutes usually,
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: so you got a five minute break, come in your way, Yeah,
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: grab another cup of coffee.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: There you go. So again those on BIS Talk Radio,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: hopefully our two comes your way as we are heard
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: in various markets across the country. Thank you to BIS
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Talk Radio. Thank you Stephanie, and again Facebook Live for
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: coming back in about five or six minutes, So don't
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: go too far from your device. How you listen to
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: us or watch us, we are coming back. It's Garden
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: America on your weekend. I'm Brian Maine, John begnasco Tacker Palafage,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: the Wins. Well, we are back. Welcome to our number two. Yes,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: indeed we made it to our two. Both on BIS
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Talk Radio Facebook Live, thank you for joining us. I
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: was on biztok Radio our faithful Facebook Live audience. Hopefully
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: you got a chance to catch Tatiana talking about tropicals
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: from Top Tropicals and is she fort Lauderdale. Did you
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: say Tiger Fort Myers. I knew it was a fort, one.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Of those forts down there on the other side of
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: the state though, Yeah, on the west coast exactly. Okay,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: So it used to be in Punta Gorda.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: I know where that is, do you.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: That's where she used to be. Then she moved from
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: there to Fort Myers.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: And I say that because I've done commercials for that area.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Oh so a lot of interesting little towns pop up
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: during the week when I'm doing commercials nationally, and that
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: was one of them. I always look it up see
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: exactly where it is that I'll be heard.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: And that's what John, I always thought you should have
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: one of those condo mangoes. Condo mango, Yeah, because you
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: grow it in a pot and you get fruit. It's
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: only going to get like as tall as you and
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: you're getting.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: And maybe I'll do maybe I'll do that.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: And they're upright, and they're kind of narrow upright and
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: narrow upright. We all want to be upright and narrow right.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: They go. And I will say for people joining us
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: during this hour, and you know that are kind of
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: coming across from the last show. Anybody knew if you're
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: hearing this Tatiana in the last chat, because it's now
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: two separate segments.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Two separate segments.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Shows posted in the chat where people are interacting on
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: the side of the show, a lot of links to
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: you know, oh, these are fifteen varieties of avocado. Oh
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: these are you know, notes on how to take care
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: of your tropicals in the wintertime to her blogs into
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: her YouTube videos. So if you're listening to us now
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: and be like, oh, well I missed that part, you
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: can always go back watch the show number one. But
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: number two, there's a lot of links that she posted
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: in the chat feature that take people directly to certain
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: blogs or YouTube videos.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: So if you're looking, if you're on Facebook, then we
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: have the current show that's on right now, but below
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: this would be our one, correct, Just just just kind
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: of scroll down and that's last hour show exactly.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: If you're on the radio, you have to go to
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: biz Talk radio talk radio or just listen because you
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: won't see the links. We just can't always go back
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: to Facebook or YouTube, right.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Well, YouTube's good because everything's edited, so you'll go from
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: one segment to the other or just wait for us
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: to appear on Alexa, Google, Spotify somewhere you'll be able
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: to catch us.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: I just want to say something real quick while people
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: are joining us this show. You know, our show again
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: real quick. Okay. We've been doing this whole cut and
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: then start again for maybe inside of a month. Okay, yeah, right.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: People are getting so good about it now that they're like,
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: you know, right back on it. Just just jumping right
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: back on the show. John has been doing a show
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: for years, decades, and this morning his audio is still.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Didn't it used to be that, used to be me
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: in the studio with the laptop.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: But like even after years, it's still his audio is
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: still we've.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Turned it into a bit hey, So thank you those
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: on Facebook.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: I do remember the swamp Fox.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank those on Facebook. Thank you for understanding how
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: we're doing this now with two different segments, our one
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: hour two on Facebook Live. And we've discovered this is
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: probably the best way to do it without getting kicked off. Now,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: nothing's for certain, but so far, so good.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're figuring things.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we are figuring forward.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: We're doing work arounds here.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: I really appreciate our listeners because you're mentioning that now
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: you know they've learned quickly how to do this, but
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: you get comments like did I make yay?
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: I love it?
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: That's beautiful. So John, prior to the this first, prior Okay,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: this is our two, so prior to us starting our two. Previously,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: at the end of our one, you teached us, you
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: teased us with something, And now you have a contraption
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: here in this lovely library in our studio, and.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: We're not playing the Saw movie or something like that, right,
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: this is a This is a pretty intense contraption. Like
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: if I saw this, I'd run away from somebody who's carrying.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: What's the best way to show this? Do you think.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: That camera's on right now?
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: So just hold it up to that camera.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and that might move. You want me to
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: try to keep it walked in? I can zoom in
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: on YouTube?
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do that. Yeah, so John doesn't have to move.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: Got it?
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: So, Brian, you might have to do a play by
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: play of what I'm doing.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: You're holding You're holding an abbreviated stem.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: The John steps up to the stem, grabs the pruning,
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: show doing a great job.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Hush falls over the audience and the anticipation is growing.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: So what I'm holding now what will assume is the rootstock,
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: and uh, this I brought it in the house just
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: so that I can show this on the radio.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Here, but show it on the radio.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: We'll show it on the podcast. But this would normally
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: have roots on it and it would either be in the
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: ground or in a pot. And then this part that
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: still has the leaves is the part that I would
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: graft on to it. So I got to show you
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: how this works, Brian. I think you're going to be
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: impressed with us.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: I love the Okay, there you go. So it's it's
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: a very modified pruner device. Like when you first look
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: at it, you think, oh, it's a pair.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: It looks like a Swiss army knife.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah right, it does, because there's a lot of little.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: Angles Swiss army pruner exactly.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: But one of the things that people won't be able
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: to see is that I'm on one end of it.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: It makes a cut into the stem that's shaped like
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: a V. And the cool thing about it is that
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: because it's consistent as far as that cut shape. So
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: you have the how do you describe it, Brian, the
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: inside of the V, and then you have the V
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: that you're going to be inserting into the inside of.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: The so's it would be the same each time. It
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: would be it would be consistent exactly every time.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: So when you take you know, with a normal pair
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: of pruners to do a grafting cut, you make your
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: cut with the pruners and you try to get it
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: as good of an angle to your own angles. But
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: then at the same time, when you're cutting the tip
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: of the branch that you're putting in there too, you know,
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: you have to try to mimic those angles. Again. Well,
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: this one automatically does it for it.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: It's like it's got its own template.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: And that was part of John's thumb that fell on
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: the table. We'll pick that up later, don't worry. Look
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: at that.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, look at that exactly. So, Yeah, that is holl
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: this one up a little closer, people can see it
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: kind of.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, that is uh, that is as good as
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: it's gonna get. Yeah, right there, hold it right there.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: Which is perfect because if somebody knows that you know
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: how to grab sometimes that cut is the hardest part, yeah,
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: because you either cut it at the wrong angle or
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: so if it's too much or cut too long.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: If he did one ten or one hundred, you'd have
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: the exact same cut each time.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: Exactly. He's now he's missing his pointer finger. Yeah, he's
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: looking around like where to go.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised he doesn't bleed much, does he?
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: No? No, exactly, Well.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: The tension is chiffed.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: Okay, so now that's the insert part. Hold on one second,
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: let me hold up that part.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Now we're gonna put that together.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: Wait a minute, it's still the V right. Does it
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: go together like that? Okay? Oh there he goes, look
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: at that. So now and and now what do you do?
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: So you got these two different pieces that you put together? Okay,
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: do they just stay together? Or do you what are
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: you get?
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Super get super glue?
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: Super glue?
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Is that?
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: Is that the technical.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: John's gonna ask? John's got tape here?
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: What I have is a paraffin tape. Yeah, and this
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: is I mean, you can buy it online. It's really cheap,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: also called grafting tape. But then that cut that I
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: just made and stuck those two pieces together, you just
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: wrap it.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: Could you? I mean, what's the difference between paraffin tape?
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: Is it just like scotch tape or is it different?
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: Now The difference is it sticks to the that it uh,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: you can easily stretch it, and the bud when it grows,
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: will grow out of this. Yeah, so you don't have
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: to if you were doing budding, you don't have to
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: worry about pulling it off afterwards. It just deteriorates after
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: a while.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: I was going to say it's it's it's a very
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: lightweight tape material that will you know, break down with time.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: Number one. Number two is very flexible, so it allows
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: for growth and development to occur without obstructing it too
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: tight or cutting off circulation. But it's also a little
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: breathable because you know, you don't want to completely, you know,
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: suffocate this. This is where you're trying to get growth
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: to occur, so you need the ability to kind of
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: still have some light and water, kind of humidity getting
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: in and out of there and all of that. So,
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: you know, paraffin tape is kind of I think an
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: important part of this. People that you know, people will say, oh,
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: I just wrap it with you know, some moss or
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: some jute as well. So you know, you can't just
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: use a basic growing tape all the time. I'm not
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: gonna say you can't ever. But you know it's it's
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: good if you have the proper stuff and and it
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: kind of sticks to itself, right like this isn't this
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: tape just kind of like binds to itself. You don't
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: have to tie a knot.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: We gotta take a break. You know that we are
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: having so much fun. We're running.
• 50:06
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• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Can we talked to this Facebook? It's biz talk Can we.
• 50:09
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• 50:11
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• 50:15
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• 50:17
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• 50:20
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• 50:46
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• 50:51
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• 50:55
  Speaker 2: John just imonstrated a great grafting cut, John, Can we
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: call it great?
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: Can we call it great?
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: I'd call it au But it seems it's hard to
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: hard to do and be watched.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: But the more you do it, the easier against right.
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: And so you know you've taken a rose here and
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: grafted it for demonstration, and I would say the size
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: of this rose cutting would be what maybe the size
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: of a pencil okay.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, number two, number two pence, number two pencil.
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: Okay. If you were to do a smaller stem, would
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: it be more difficult?
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: It would be, I would imagine, and if you did.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: A larger the optimum size.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: A size of a pencil for this device. So you know,
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: if people are interested in it, you know it's you
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: know you're going to be doing cuttings from plants that again,
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: size of a pencil stem is what you would want.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: You could put those little magnifiers over your glasses if
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: it gets really small.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: Well, you know some of the things that you could
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: could do if you had a small yard issue and
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: you don't say you've got ten roses and no more
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: room for roses, just take your existing bushes and put
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: other varieties on those so you can have two or
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: three varieties on one plant on one plant. Yeah, you're thinking,
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: aren't you.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: There's I yeah, absolutely, there's a lot of chatter.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: We'll we'll go through this real quick. So you know,
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: number one, a lot of fun and you know slicing
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: and dicing. It has, you know, good stuff. But Carla,
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: would it work on tomatoes? I still have the dream
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: to graft those someday. So, I mean we talked about
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: the stem size that it needs to be for a tomato,
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: So I mean there's that aspect of it that you know,
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: depending on the part of the tomato plant, would it work?
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: Number two is could it work on a tomato though, John,
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: because I know that the critical part of grafting a
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: tomato is keeping that humidity right there at that joint
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: right that. One of the things I used to talk
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: about in the greenhouse that they when they were grafting
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: the tomatoes was that was.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: A they have to go in a healing chamber, yes,
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: which is one hundred percent humidity.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So even if you did this kind of cutting,
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: you still have to do that, right.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: You couldn't do the way that you graft tomatoes. So
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: I guess if you had a mature tomato you could
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: go ahead and do that, but it wouldn't make any
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: sense to graft tomatoes. You start with two seedlings and
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: all you need is a razor blade to do that,
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: and you just make forty five degree cuts and then
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: put those together, and there's a grafting clip. If you
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: take the rootstock on a tomato that's growing to a
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: forty five degree cut, then you slip the grafting clip
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: over it, and then you do the same thing with
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: the new tomato that you want grafted, and you stick
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: that down in the clip and then there's no wrapping
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: around anything. But you put in a one hundred percent
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: humidity and you can easily do that with the baggie.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Just stick the whole thing in a baggie, you know,
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: after you've watered it.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: There's another question about now what do you do with it?
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: And we did this with what would be a cutting, right,
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: We grabbed two roses and made a cutting out of
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: both of them, and then you would root that, so
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: to speak. But would you do that ever, or would
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: you always want the bottom of the graph to be
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: actually a rooted plant?
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: Preferably that's the way to do it. There are they're
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: called stenttlings, where you can make a graph similar to
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: what we did and then try to root it. And
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: a stentlings did that exact cut we made without being rooted.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: But to me, that seems like a lot to try.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: Oh wow, And I'm trying to grab a link because
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: a person also asks, now send send the name in
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: the link. So I'm gathering I'm on Amazon right now.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: Out I'm finding this Amazon.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: This Glark does Glark's Professional Grafting, Fruit tree Planting, grafting shears. Anyways, man,
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: there's a whole kit that it comes with. Some of
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: them come with more elaborate aspects like tags and knives
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: and all kinds of other things. Some are some are less,
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: but they range between twenty five and eighteen dollars or so,
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: pretty neat. So I'm going to post a link to
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: one of these and then you can read it, and
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: then you can kind.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: Of look, is this one that I used in there?
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, it looks like it, but it doesn't necessarily
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: mean it's.
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: No.
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you know which one that one is.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: This is the whole kit that comes with tags and everything. Though, yeah,
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: did yours come with tags and everyone? Well, there's knives.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Mine.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: I think mine just came with that over there.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: Just the case, just the case. So the one I'm
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: boasting is one with.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Tags, lots of accessories.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: But I mean, like I said, there's other ones also.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: She mentioned it came with the measuring device a triangle,
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: because it's important that when you you are making this
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: that the diameter of the top and the bottom are
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: the same.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: They have to match.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: So when I took these cuttings outside it just went
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: out there this morning. I made sure that they were
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: the same size, because that way they'll fit together.
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: Okay, it might have some trouble posting this, Like I
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: just tried to do a grab and post from Amazon,
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: but it's not making it a link. It's just making
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: it a bunch of gibberish on the Facebook. I'll do
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: I'll try to do better.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm trying to We're doing it on the fly,
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: is what you're doing exactly. Oh so, but if somebody
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: did click that, they would would take them back.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: I would say, if you go to Amazon and you
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: type in grafting pruner, not grafting.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: Crafting tool, arafting prune, well.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: I did graphing pruner and they all popped up right away.
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: I think grafting tool. You'll probably have a few more
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: other things that pop up. Okay, but anyways, Yeah, there's
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: a lot of rieties, and I think that it's you know,
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: I mean eighteen to twenty bunks twenty five bucks. You
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: can't go wrong.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: It's cheaper than some just regular shares. We buy it.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: You make some really cool plants. Now it's half the
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: price of printing shears.
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: Right, yeah, Now what about citrus? Okay, so you know
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: this is another thing and they say this is a
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: grafting fruit tree device. Similar sized stems, so you're dealing.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: With the citrus would work the same way. Yeah, so
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: you that would be a great way to make a
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: salad citrus tree. Yeah.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: And it's really cool because it would be ideal if
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: you had a tree in your backyard, right, and then
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: you go and grab some cuttings from some other buddies,
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: some some other friend's tree or family tree, and now
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: you can put it onto your tree in your backyard,
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: right right, That would be like the most ideal situation.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So you know, if you're looking for, you know,
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: Grandma's lemon tree that you can't find anywhere else in
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: the world, you need to have them.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: That Sometimes you have a sentimental reason, right, you mentioned grandma.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: What if you know this was something she always had
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: and you want to have it in your yard exactly.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: I think that's a lot of why people have certain
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: plants is because that's what they grew up with. I
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: have a friend offered me guaba trees. He's like, I
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: got these guabas just popping up all over me my yard.
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: You want to me? And I'm like, no, no, no,
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: thank you, I'm good. But he goes, yeah, it was.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: It was a tree from you know, my parents' house,
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: and I loved it and I planted it at my house.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: You know, there was some seedlings, some saplings that came
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: up there and that's why it has it, and so
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: you know, it's kind of cool.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: I didn't realize that you mentioned guavas. I didn't realize
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: gauapas came up from seed right where like I have
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: one in the front that you know, we uh, there's
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: a guava orchard right next to me. And I don't
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: know if it was a bird or what, but you know,
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: it came up and it grew and there you go.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: And you know, so you you bring up a point
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: because he was wondering, oh, should we wrap this up?
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: Maybe care over?
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Let's carried over? Okay, okay, So I'm gonna take a
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  Speaker 2: The action continues here on Guarded America as we continue
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: from our last conversation just prior to the break.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: So, he was asking me about the guava tree. Are
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: these runners? Like, are these you know, roots that are
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: now producing new trees? Are the It's like, well, you know,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: when you dig it up.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can tell if you dig.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: It up and it's just a plant. Yeah, there's seedlings
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: that came up. But if you actually have to cut
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: a root to get this plant right, they would be runner.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: And so you think they're seedlings.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Well I do.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know. If I don't ever see.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: They run, I don't think they run. Yeah like that,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: So I agree. I think it's probably just ceilings. Like
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: you say, it's pretty impressive that they do come up
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: from me. As Brian and I were driving up here,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: I was making the comment that trees, there's no trees here,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: What I mean.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: It's beautiful. We're we're driving up and you're driving along
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: the highway, and plenty of bushes. There's plenty of green,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: but there's no real trees and natives they just don't
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: grow naturally. So the guava being able to grow, I mean,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: it's pretty impressive.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: The it'll be like any seedling though of a fruit tree.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: It won't be the same variety.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: Who knows what it'll be.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: Yep, but could not even produce fruit like for who knows?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: Who knows?
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: We'll see it's free, it's free, and I had room
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: for it, so I just let it come up.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna play with Johnstone, right, that sounded weird.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: Watch he doesn't hurt himself, right, and.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: So giving that to a five year old and say, hey,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: play with us. But so how many different what other
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: angles would you need besides what you did.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: I don't think you need any no, right, I don't know.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Silence is definitely and I wish watching tiger here make
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: another cut?
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: See see, I think that's what you were doing wrong.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: You did the other one. Yeah, you did the same kind.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: You're supposed to do it like that, right, and then
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: you get the V cut.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, So it's like a puzzle. It's like a puzzle piece.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: I was trying to cover, figuring that viewers weren't gonna
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: see what I Yeah.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: So so each cuts a little different so it fits,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: but fits just like that.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the one I did in the garage or
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: I did it that way?
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah you did? You did did it the right way
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: and do it right.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So we've definitely pointed out that what I originally
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: showed was.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: Wrong, but but it's still it can still work. Yeah,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: look at now, so you can when you do it right,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: you can't even tell there's a split.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: That is really cool. Yeah, that is really neat.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that just fits right in there perfect.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: Look at So that's fun. That's fun to do. So
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: to give, uh, some some people some list of plants
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: that they could graft with a tool like this, roses, fruit, trees, apples, nectarins,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: those kinds of ones as well, or no.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see why not.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what what was our conclusion on tomatoes?
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: It would be difficult because you'd have to have a
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: mature tomato, like John mentioned, kind.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: Of defeating the whole purpose. Yeah yeah, and you do
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: those with ceilings and a and the grafting clips the
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: main thing. And those are easy to buy.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: And then what would be some plants that people besides
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: a rose, because that'd be really cool to put multiple
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: color flowers on one bush and then you walk out.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: Can you imagine like you see a rose and it's
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: got red flowers and white flowers and yellow flowers and
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: pink flowers one bush. That'd be you know, if you
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: want to go crazy, that'd be a lot of fun. Right,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: What would could you do that with a camellia or No,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: communities don't graft.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Well think camellias nucios grows a lot of graft.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: They do, right, Yeah, so you could graft some on camellias.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: I wonder if they have to be like the suscanqua
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: have to be succanqua and haponic have to be hiponica.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's the same thing with fruit trees.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: You don't want to put h varieties with different growth
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: rates on the same plant because otherwise you're gonna have
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: you know, if you've got a dwarf, yeah, or a
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: compact plant like a kumquat and you stick a lemon
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: on it, you're gonna have this huge branch coming out.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: But you could easily put four or five different kinds
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: of lemons you know I have. I think I have four,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: maybe five different kinds of lemons. And how many lemon
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: trees do you need one? So if those were all
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: on one tree, that would be better make room for
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: more roses.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody said, bogan b I don't know if you
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: can do this. Bogb's are a special breed all in
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: their own way. I mean, I could say you can,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: but I don't know. I've never seen it.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: You know what the answer is, go ahead and try.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: Well, that's what I'm saying. You know, if I got
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: to if I got one these.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: Tools, you'd be experimenting all the time years.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: My plant would be, My garden would look like Frankenstein's
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: the island what is.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: It, The island of Doctor Morreau.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly where it's just randomness happening. I'm like, oh,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: I grafted this to this.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Doctor Moreau did a lot of.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: A weird and that becomes your Frankenstein trail.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: Let's say, if you were to pick any time a
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: year like to do this random grafting to be the
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: most successful, when would you say to do it?
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: I think they late fall or early spring is what
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: they usually recommend. Here. I did it in the middle
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: of the winter, so I'll see what happens. I did
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: take that plant, and rather than leave it outside after
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: I did it, I put it in the garage in
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: a little rooting.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: Bot dome.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it'll be be warm and it'll be good humidity.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: Carlo brought up a question where would you get the
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: roots or a chamelion To kind of like answer this,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: car I mean, we're not talking about grafting plants for
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: you know, specific resistance or anything like that. I mean
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: you could, don't get me wrong, like you could. We're
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: just talking about randomly putting plants together right now. So
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: it's more like, Oh, I had this camellia bush at
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: my friend's house. I really liked it. I don't know
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: what it is. I don't know if I'll ever be
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: able to find it. You take a cutting, you bring
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: it home. You have a camellia that's the same variety,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: but maybe not the same.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: Flower, maybe like a Camellia japonica.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and now you're putting it on that plant, right
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: or you know, fruit tree like we talked about too.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: So I mean to find rootstock. I'm sure there's probably
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: some mail order companies that sell the rootstock of certain plants.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: But you know, we're not really talking about that. We're
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: just more talking about having some fun with combining some
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: plants or or preserving some plants that maybe you you know,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: because like we say, you might not be able to
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: dig up that eighty year old camellia from right, you know,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: your parents' home that you want to save, but you
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: could take some cuttings and you can root them, or
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: you can graft them, or you know, stuff like that.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: So yeah, that's where that's more what we're focusing.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: Didn't we grap tomatoes originalate to demonstrate creating disease resistant?
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Were the healthier stock? They was resistant the rootstock.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: There's different rootstocks. Now there's probably one hundred different rootstocks
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: on tomato plants, and they're used for different things, most
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: of it commercially. But for homeowners the main thing is
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: disease resistance, because all the old heirloom varieties are not
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: disease resistant. They get fusarium wealth, Verticillium welt nematodes. But
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: if you put on a rootstock resistant to that, you're
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: not going to that problem. Also, the rootstocks are more
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: vigorous so you usually get a bigger crop, like thirty
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: percent bigger crop and you get larger tomatoes.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so cool. Well that's a fun tool. And like
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: I said, I if I had, if I had one
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: of those, in ten years, my whole garden would be
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: mixed with all kinds of weird stuff.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: So well, fortunately you know somebody you could borrow one, borrow.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: It down if you will, half my yard.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: With the cut. When you did the cut correctly, you
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: can't even really tell unless you look real close. No,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: it fits so well together.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: It's really cool, easy to use.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: It's funny. I was trying to fool the listeners and
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: that shongham that I did it the wrong way. Tiger
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: picked up on it right away.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not right.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: You've got two v's going together here.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, John's going against nature.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: But again it's still it can still work.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: It's good.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that one.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: But it's a lot smoother or fit obviously.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah. What would you graft in your guardian? I think
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: in your patio? What would you do?
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: I think roses? I would have to have a multiple
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: rose bush. Yeah, yeah, be get colors color differential, So
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: if I had, you could put roses that have no
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: fragrance with roses that have fragrance on the same bush.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you could if you wanted to.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: I mean that that opens up so many possibilities with
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: no fragrance. He's just trying to be just trying to
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: just random. It's Frankenstein like he said that, you know.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: Speaking of fragrance. Yes, that does that pink rose behind
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: you smell?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah? That is strong.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's Gertrude Jekyl, is it. It's one of the
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: most fragrant roses.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: Even this orange one smells good to smell the orange
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: one or yellow or whatever.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: I think that's the lady of We're going to take a.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: Mis trick, Brian.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: This one now that's got the best of roma of
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: any roads in here. We're going to take a break.
• 1:10:10
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• 1:10:13
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• 1:10:18
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• 1:10:19
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• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: with our final segment here in Garden America. As we
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: continue on this, so what's today's date? Is this the tenth.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know, twelve, I don't know. We're all The
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: thirteenth is the third. This is uh January tenth, January tenth, okay,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: which means the twelfth is on Monday. Start starts your
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: brand new week. The twelfth.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: Oh, what's so special about the twelve.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: It's because I'm going I'm going back to work.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: I know you've been off for the week, been off
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: of the week.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: Wasn't there a song called the twelfth of Never?
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Johnny mathis right, Well, there was a lot of
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: versions of it, Yeah, until the twelfth I never And
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  Speaker 2: that's a long long time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Carla Gertrude Jekyl is the Fragrant Rose?
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  Speaker 3: Right, Yes, so David Austin Rose.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: The other one is I believe Lady of Hilla.
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  Speaker 4: And then we got a question. Recommendations for partial shade
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  Speaker 4: grass varieties need to re saw the backyard approximately fifteen
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  Speaker 4: hundred square feet. Kids are tracking in too much dirt.
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  Speaker 4: And this is from the Living Stones, which is funny
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  Speaker 4: because I'm gonna be talking with John after the show
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  Speaker 4: about grass in his backyard and part of it is
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  Speaker 4: in partial shade and it gets damp, and that's probably
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  Speaker 4: one of the toughest things for a lawn is you
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  Speaker 4: know you think about it. Oh, like they love water
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  Speaker 4: and you know everything, but part shade grass where it
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  Speaker 4: stays damp is a challenge for grass because it thins
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  Speaker 4: out and doesn't grow very well. But would do you
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  Speaker 4: know the livingstones where they're at john.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Johnson Newpork Beach.
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  Speaker 4: Oh perfect, Okay, So let's talk about this real quick.
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  Speaker 4: We got our Marathon sod varieties and every sod company
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  Speaker 4: has different varieties of fescue, and when we talk about
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  Speaker 4: fescue lawns, these are the stay green, year round lawns. Basically,
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  Speaker 4: Marathon is a brand and they've got a Marathon one, two,
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  Speaker 4: and three, and the difference is in their growth rate
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  Speaker 4: and either growth height so to speak. So h Marathon
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  Speaker 4: one is a standard tall fescue grows very quickly, fills
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  Speaker 4: in real well, but it also needs to be mode
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  Speaker 4: more frequently because it grows quickly and taller. It's great
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  Speaker 4: for playgrounds and heavies traffic areas because it recovers really well.
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  Speaker 4: But if you don't have a heavy traffic area, Marathon
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  Speaker 4: two is wonderful because it grows slower, little, shorter, so
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  Speaker 4: you don't have to mow it as often. But the
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  Speaker 4: problem is is that it doesn't recover from dog traffic,
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  Speaker 4: kid traffic as much. That is durable, not as durable.
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  Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean I don't I wouldn't say it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean durability I think is the same. It just
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  Speaker 4: doesn't repair itself, right, Okay, So the marathon one still
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  Speaker 4: handles the traffic the same ways, but within a week
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  Speaker 4: or two it repairs itself. Marathon two would take two
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  Speaker 4: or three months to repair itself.
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  Speaker 2: We've all been waiting for three.
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  Speaker 4: Marathon three is the dwarf fescue, which you almost never
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  Speaker 4: have to mow. Double dwarf double dwarf uh, which you
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  Speaker 4: almost never have to mow. But if you've got a
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  Speaker 4: dog or heavy traffic, it'll virtually like never repair itself.
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  Speaker 4: So it's always going to have bare spots or a
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  Speaker 4: path worn or something like that. It's more of a
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  Speaker 4: lawn that you like to look at but you don't
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  Speaker 4: always touch.
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  Speaker 2: So like a little museum ropes around it.
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  Speaker 4: And in terms of a park shade situation, those are
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  Speaker 4: your best varieties to use because fescues like that more
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  Speaker 4: so than a permute.
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  Speaker 2: If you like to go with one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if if you like that type of grass, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: if you really want one, that's tough, and we'll take
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  Speaker 3: the shade with no problems and full sun.
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  Speaker 4: In Augustine. Yeah, but that's kind of more.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a soft no, it's a coarse grass.
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  Speaker 4: It's a coarse grass and it runs, you know, runs
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  Speaker 4: all over, so you got to keep it edged and
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  Speaker 4: everyth thing like that. And it kind of yellows out
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  Speaker 4: in the wintertime, right. It doesn't go dorm it doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't go as bad as Bermuda Bermuda, but.
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  Speaker 4: It kind of yellows a little bit, right, Saint Augustine, I.
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  Speaker 3: Think if you've heard Ali said, especially on the coast,
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  Speaker 3: it'll stay green all year round.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, which one itch is less? Marathon two and three
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  Speaker 4: Saint Augustine is itchy, and then Marathon one is itchy.
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  Speaker 4: For sure.
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  Speaker 2: Been a long time since I rolled around in grass
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  Speaker 2: right with no shirt on. But those days remember.
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  Speaker 4: As a kid, You're just like.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, grass makes you witch.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. When is the best time to reside? Now?
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  Speaker 3: Tomorrow?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Now, now is the time, especially in Newport Beach,
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  Speaker 4: if you can get it in before the heat, get
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  Speaker 4: a good six inches right before it gets summertime. You're
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  Speaker 4: gonna save a ton because the issue with grass saw
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  Speaker 4: it is they tell you to keep it wet and
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  Speaker 4: you can water three four five times a day every
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  Speaker 4: day depending on the temperatures.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: Well, in the winter time you don't have to do
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  Speaker 4: it because it's cool or you get rain. Right, So
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  Speaker 4: if you do this in July, you might as well
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  Speaker 4: as leave your sprinkers running, so.
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  Speaker 3: You would have a better chance at Newport Beach in
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  Speaker 3: July than you would Fallbrook in July. Absolutely or too, Mecula.
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  Speaker 4: All right, uh, Linda, thank you. We will look into
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: a bird planting for bird habitat episode. There's always fun
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  Speaker 4: stuff to plants for birds.
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  Speaker 2: Two minutes guys, two minutes remaining.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you Carla for the nice note about I love
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  Speaker 4: the broadcast from your homes, guys, so warm and welcoming.
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  Speaker 4: The studio was so much more sterile.
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  Speaker 2: It is it is. That's exactly what it is. Not
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  Speaker 2: quite as homie.
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  Speaker 4: Just just wait, Carl from the next episode is actually
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  Speaker 4: from Brian's bedroom where we're gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be real, co real, cozy. Okay, So we
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  Speaker 2: got about a minute and a half to go at all. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's it. Yeah, so look right there, see.
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  Speaker 4: You just moved the pen. That's not the end of
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  Speaker 4: the show. You just moved the pen.
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  Speaker 2: But that's how we knew when the end of the
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  Speaker 2: show is coming. This is our last segment.
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  Speaker 4: We're done.
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  Speaker 2: We're done. Yeah, and you know how she can tell
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: look at the clock. Oh goodness, I know it's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Show a good time. No show next week, no show
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  Speaker 2: next week, but we then we come back the week after.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, exactly. So save your questions, send them online, chat
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  Speaker 4: with us on Facebook and you can.
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  Speaker 2: Always put Facebook and chat. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So we still have to kill about another minute here, John,
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  Speaker 2: What do you have to contribute?
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  Speaker 3: Well, Dana likes the idea about birds. Didn't I just
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  Speaker 3: write something in the newsletter not too long ago about
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  Speaker 3: planning for birds? Or did I not?
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  Speaker 4: You did? Because it was winter time. Takes people don't
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  Speaker 4: think about feeding the birds through the winter.
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  Speaker 2: Dana takes care of all of our birds. We see
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  Speaker 2: variety that come through there that we would never see
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: if we hadn't presented all this food to them. You
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: see the finches, you see the doves, the crows. But
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: then if you show up and it's like, where did
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: you come from?
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  Speaker 3: They have final warning from Carl about what we were
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: talking about Saint Augustine. She said they had to come
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  Speaker 3: over from the neighbor's house and it's a pain.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, exactly, it does.
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  Speaker 4: Run.
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• 1:18:32
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