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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, April 2 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It's Thursday, April second. This is Jaguars Happy Hour and
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Speaker 1: now the inspiration behind yesterday. J P. Shad Rick. Welcome
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Speaker 1: in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday, April second, a
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Speaker 1: jam packed show. Today, coming up, Tony Boselli returns to
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Speaker 1: the radio. We'll hear from the Pride of the Jaguars,
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Speaker 1: and just moments from now, senior writer John Osan will
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Speaker 1: talk the latest Jack's news. Colke Cublic from SEC Network
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Speaker 1: analyst on Saturday Night Football, we'll break down some of
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Speaker 1: the big SEC prospects. Coming up. Three weeks from today,
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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft gets underway and Jaguars analyst Jeff Logaman
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Speaker 1: will close out the show with us Today we are
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Speaker 1: simulcast right now currently one point five FM on the
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Speaker 1: Frank Franzie Show as well. And the Reason Why is
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Speaker 1: our first guest our co host this show. A couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, our friend and colleague Tony Boselli was
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Speaker 1: diagnosed with the coronavirus COVID nineteen, sent to the Mayo
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Speaker 1: Clinic here in Jacksonville. He's gone through it all, he's
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Speaker 1: back home now and he's back on Jaguars Happy Hour Today. Tony,
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Speaker 1: it is good to hear that voice again. How are you, sir? Well,
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Speaker 1: I'm doing better, JP, and I appreciate you. Um, it's
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Speaker 1: it's been quite a few weeks and uh, but I'm
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Speaker 1: feeling better home from the hospital and uh, I'm on
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Speaker 1: the right side of this thing. Now, Tony, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: break some of this down. We'll talk a little football
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Speaker 1: to This is a football show. I don't you know,
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Speaker 1: it's been a while. We'll get to that. There's been
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Speaker 1: a lot going on between now and then. Um, how
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Speaker 1: did this start? When was your initial reaction to it?
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Speaker 1: The symptoms, When did you find out? When were you tested?
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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, when were you at Mayo? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so uh two weeks ago, I guess they would, uh
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Speaker 1: two weeks ago from yesterdays when I got tested. And
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Speaker 1: uh the reason I got tested. I started feeling, uh first,
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Speaker 1: just like a cold. I didn't think anything of it
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Speaker 1: and uh and maybe some allergies or something. But woke
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Speaker 1: up a Wednesday morning feeling really lousy, and uh that
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Speaker 1: same morning I got a phone call saying that I
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Speaker 1: was around and individual that it tested positive. And so
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Speaker 1: at that point, I uh called my doctor at Mayo
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Speaker 1: and I said, hey, here's what's going on, and feel great,
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Speaker 1: and I just found out that I've been around somebody.
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Speaker 1: So they got me in and I got tested that Wednesday,
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Speaker 1: and uh, I stayed at home and just kind of
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Speaker 1: hung out waiting, and then found out Friday, UM, two
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Speaker 1: weeks from tomorrow, that I was positive. And uh, at
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Speaker 1: that point was still feeling okay, but I started going
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Speaker 1: down a little downhill. Over the weekend. I thought I
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Speaker 1: was getting better, and then Tuesday, UM of last week,
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Speaker 1: UM really started feeling bad and and uh, throughout the
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Speaker 1: day was going the wrong direction. And Wednesday mid morning
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Speaker 1: called my doctor again and told him what was going on,
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Speaker 1: and he sent me to the hospital. I thought I
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Speaker 1: was just going into and he gets in fluids and
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Speaker 1: some medicine, and uh, the next thing I knew, I
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Speaker 1: was there five days the Yeah, when you get in there, Um,
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Speaker 1: how did they greet you at the door? I mean,
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Speaker 1: this has to be obviously they know that you have
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Speaker 1: it at this point, and then you're in the hospital.
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Speaker 1: What happened the next few days after that? Yeah, So
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Speaker 1: I'm really fortunate. I mean the people were great, um
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Speaker 1: throughout the healthcare, you know, Syamir and Jacksonville, and I
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Speaker 1: was fortunate to be at Mayo the great people. So
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Speaker 1: they called ahead, they knew I was coming, and uh
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Speaker 1: so I was greed with you know, an individual who
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Speaker 1: at the er, who was where I was coming, and
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Speaker 1: was in the full um mask and uh, you know
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Speaker 1: out you know, making sure they're completely covered head to
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Speaker 1: toe and they will be into the emergency room, into
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Speaker 1: private room away from everybody, and uh start doing tests
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Speaker 1: and next raising my chest and everything. And that's when uh,
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Speaker 1: Puma Allo just came in and said, U, you're not
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Speaker 1: going anywhere. We're gonna stay. We're gonna put you in
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Speaker 1: the ICU for a while. And that was a little
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Speaker 1: bit of a shock obviously. I mean, you don't number one,
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Speaker 1: you don't think it's gonna ever be you. You're gonna
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Speaker 1: get it. And then when you do get it, you
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Speaker 1: think I'll just you know, I'm young, only forty seven
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Speaker 1: years old and completely healthy, have no health issues. This
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Speaker 1: will be kind of a quick thing. Turn it around
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Speaker 1: and uh get back right to it, and uh, next
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Speaker 1: thing you know, you're in Nice to you and I
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Speaker 1: had a bunch of machines hooked up to you, and
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Speaker 1: you're an oxygen and and uh, it was quite an
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Speaker 1: interesting time. So I was there, ended up being at
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Speaker 1: Mayo for five days. Half of that time SEU and
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Speaker 1: then uh Monday, UM, I was able to kind of
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Speaker 1: uh turned the corner and get good enough to come
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Speaker 1: back home. And then I've been at home the last
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Speaker 1: few days and really starting to head in the right direction.
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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli with us on Jaguars Happy Hour, his first
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Speaker 1: radio appearance since returning home from the hospital. We're also
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Speaker 1: simulcast on The Frank Franzie Show currently on ninety two
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Speaker 1: point five FM. What goes through your mind, Tony when
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Speaker 1: you're in intensive care and you're by yourself and that's
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Speaker 1: really all you have time to do is think about things. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you it's Uh, it's scary, that's for sure. Um. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, your mind runs and obviously you know that
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Speaker 1: people are dying from this, and and you're in the
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Speaker 1: hospital and you're in the I see you, and you
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Speaker 1: know no one can cut you can't leave the room,
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Speaker 1: and no one come see you unless you're in a
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Speaker 1: fool you know, a protective suit and all the protective equipment. Um,
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Speaker 1: So it's really scary. Your mind runs and you just
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know, you can't see your
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Speaker 1: family or anybody until you get better. Um, thankfully, I'll
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Speaker 1: tell you the people, you know, the doctors, you know,
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Speaker 1: the p a's, the nurses, I mean, the tacks. I mean,
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Speaker 1: everybody that I dealt with was unbelievable. And they you know,
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Speaker 1: they they take their own you know, they know they're
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Speaker 1: at risk and thankfully they have the right equipment, but
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Speaker 1: they're still at risk and they come in there and
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Speaker 1: serve you, and so they made it a lot better.
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Speaker 1: I mean even all the way to the individuals have
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Speaker 1: to come in every day to clean the room. And um,
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Speaker 1: so that was I mean, seeing somebody and you know,
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Speaker 1: these individuals that are taking care of you and talking
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Speaker 1: to you and trying to encourage you. That was helpful. Um.
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Speaker 1: But it was pretty experience, pretty interesting experience, and uh
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of times to kind of lay there
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Speaker 1: and uh, just you and your thoughts, Tony ball with us.
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Speaker 1: You get moved back into a general room and now
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Speaker 1: you're obviously back home. At what point did you see
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Speaker 1: or find out that the story was on social media?
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Speaker 1: Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report had tweeted out your situation
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Speaker 1: it was known around town. It wasn't a public media
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Speaker 1: thing yet though, but at that moment it changed. When
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Speaker 1: did you find out about it and what was your
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Speaker 1: reaction to see it? Yeah, first of all, I want
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Speaker 1: to thank all my all the good you know, all
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Speaker 1: the media in Jacksonville and a lot more of my
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Speaker 1: friends and and uh, and they knew obviously, you know,
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Speaker 1: and I'm closer to some than others, and and some
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Speaker 1: of them that I talked to, they knew I was sick,
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Speaker 1: and and uh, and I wasn't responding to any of
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Speaker 1: the media at all, um from that standpoint of wanting
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Speaker 1: to talk to anybody, and in each of them really
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Speaker 1: respected my privacy. Um, you know, I got sick, and
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Speaker 1: I knew it was a big deal, you know, out
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Speaker 1: there publicly, but I was feeling pretty lousy and a
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Speaker 1: lot of going on and and the family to will
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Speaker 1: worry about and everything else, and so I just wasn't
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Speaker 1: ready to talk. And so thank you to all the
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Speaker 1: Jacksonal media and a lot of the national media that's
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Speaker 1: friends of mine that they kind of knew something was
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Speaker 1: going on, and we're respectful of my privacy. So I
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Speaker 1: was purposely not saying anything not that I would never,
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Speaker 1: just when you're that sick and you're not doing good.
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Speaker 1: He just wasn't the right time. And the fact that,
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Speaker 1: you know, Mike Freeman decided on his own without ever
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Speaker 1: even trying to reach out to me, um, to do
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Speaker 1: what he did. I thought, you know, last what do
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Speaker 1: you want to call it ethics or morality? I don't
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Speaker 1: know what the exact term is, but it was sure
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Speaker 1: wasn't true to feel very good as you're laying in
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Speaker 1: the hospital and you're get to learn on your phone
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Speaker 1: that someone's talking about you, uh, and especially when you're
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Speaker 1: you know, that sick. So that was tough. UM. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I like, I couldn't even tell my friends that I
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Speaker 1: was that sick, and so a lot of them found
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Speaker 1: out through him and uh and I didn't like that,
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Speaker 1: and I was pretty upset. But it'll want him and
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Speaker 1: he made a decision to do what he did. Um.
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Speaker 1: I completely disagree with that. I think it wacks specials M.
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Speaker 1: But that's his choice and that's what he ended up doing.
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Speaker 1: Has he reached out since no, I we never you
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Speaker 1: stopped before to ask, you know, at least have the
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Speaker 1: decency to ask me if you know, and find out
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Speaker 1: we talk to maybe some of my family, what was
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Speaker 1: really going on? You know, God forbid, what if I
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Speaker 1: was dying in there and you're out there reporting this thing. Um,
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Speaker 1: I just think it's unfair to me. It's a personal matter,
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Speaker 1: you know, and UH, to do that without even trying
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Speaker 1: to reach out, it was really really disappointing. Tony Basselli
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Speaker 1: with US Pride of the Jaguars Left Tackle, co host
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Speaker 1: of this show Jaguars Happy Hour, his first radio appearance
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Speaker 1: since returning home. Glad to hear that voice again. UM,
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Speaker 1: now moving ahead, you're back home. Are you in the clear? Now?
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Speaker 1: How far away are you from being in the clear?
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Speaker 1: And what's your appeal to everybody listening today? Yeah? You know,
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm took a test yesterday, UM to see if
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Speaker 1: the virus is there. It was negative, was gone so UM.
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Speaker 1: But because I was in the hospital and taking you know,
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Speaker 1: back to that back to back test, I'll take I
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Speaker 1: took another one today assuming that comes back negative as well,
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Speaker 1: and I'll be clear. Um. Well, I guess one of
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Speaker 1: the silver linings in this deal for me is I'm
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Speaker 1: probably the safest, you know, person to be around because
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Speaker 1: I can't get it. I got all the antibodies, but
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Speaker 1: I can't obviously give it to anybody because you know,
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Speaker 1: I can't get it any longer. So that's the one
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Speaker 1: positive that once I get through this, I'll be uh
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Speaker 1: the only go out and be safe and and uh
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Speaker 1: and so that's a good thing. So um, even then,
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Speaker 1: you know, the overall messages, you know, this is real. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: I think sometimes, um, we all do it. I'm no different.
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Speaker 1: You hear about these things in the news, as you
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Speaker 1: hear of people that you don't know, maybe it feels
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Speaker 1: like it's a far long way away every different place,
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Speaker 1: and you kind of question it and you're like, oh,
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Speaker 1: this it's not gonna happen to me. Or I'm young,
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Speaker 1: I'm healthy. You know, this is something that only affects
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Speaker 1: somebody's old or as other diseases, you know, a comprom minds,
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Speaker 1: immune system, whatever, and it's just it's just not true.
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Speaker 1: It is real. It can affect any of us. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know seven healthy. I got. It took me down
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Speaker 1: pretty good. But even if I got and I guess
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Speaker 1: their thing is even if it doesn't, you know, maybe
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Speaker 1: you are fortunate in the odds or in your favor
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Speaker 1: because you're you know, you're healthy and young, but you
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Speaker 1: can still give it to somebody else. And so I
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Speaker 1: think it's a you know, time right now to listen
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Speaker 1: to the health care professionals and the experts of what
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Speaker 1: they're telling us, because it is real. They're not making
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Speaker 1: this up. And don't really think about our community. Let's
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Speaker 1: think about each other and uh, everyone around us, Tony
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Speaker 1: Boselli with us. People have been distancing for me for
11:58
Speaker 1: a long time. Anyway, Tony, Yeah, don't really have toat
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Speaker 1: you right. Sounds like another another week, Um, Tony, let's
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Speaker 1: talk a little football, shall we? And wrapping up our
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Speaker 1: conversation here. I don't know how much um you were
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Speaker 1: following in intensive care obviously, UM, but you know he
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Speaker 1: can has been in the news the last week or
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Speaker 1: so tweeting about the Jaguars business practices lately. Um. The Jaguars,
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Speaker 1: as of the last week heard, don't have any official
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Speaker 1: offers from any teams for him, and I don't think
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Speaker 1: they're planning right now to send him away. I think
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Speaker 1: they wanted to be here, but it sounds like he's
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Speaker 1: willing to sit down and I think he's had enough
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Speaker 1: of the Jaguars. It feels like, well, I mean, here's
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Speaker 1: here's here's the reality. I mean, they got him under
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Speaker 1: contract because of the franchise tag. And I've been you know,
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Speaker 1: reading Twitter, you know, through Twitter and stuff a little
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Speaker 1: bit here and there, and obviously you know, he's a
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Speaker 1: big deal and he's a very good player and his
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Speaker 1: guy that's done a lot of really good things, and
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars user leverage. They have it, and Yahn's got
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Speaker 1: to make a decision and I can't imagine him not
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Speaker 1: playing if it comes to, you know, making nineteen million
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Speaker 1: dollars or nothing. Um, And uh, I know he wants
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Speaker 1: to be traded, but you have to find a partner
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Speaker 1: who's willing to give you what you want. And I
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Speaker 1: think the Jags are gonna sit back and be very
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Speaker 1: patient because they do have the leverage. And I think
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Speaker 1: they're probably pretty confident that he would play if pushed
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Speaker 1: games to show because you know, he wants to make
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Speaker 1: his money. Um, it's unfortunate it's come to this. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's obviously if a guy who's upset mad, and that's
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Speaker 1: what happens a lot of times. Organizations you feel like
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Speaker 1: you've been cheenies are done wrong. It gets emotional and
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Speaker 1: a lot of feelings comes up, and a lot of
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Speaker 1: bad you know, bad feelings come up and those are
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Speaker 1: hard to overcome. Um, but this is the business side
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Speaker 1: of it, and a lot of times in these situations,
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Speaker 1: no one side is not happy, and right now it's
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Speaker 1: it's not happy and we'll see where it goes. But
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Speaker 1: my guess is, at some point in the next two weeks,
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Speaker 1: I think the Jags will probably get an offer that
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Speaker 1: they want that makes sense to them, and then uh,
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Speaker 1: you'll probably see a unique trade it. But with that said,
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Speaker 1: you have to find somebody's willing to pay you one
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Speaker 1: million dollars a year, you know, that's what it's reported
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Speaker 1: he wants. There has to be a trade partner and
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Speaker 1: that's not only willing to give you the draft pick,
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Speaker 1: but it's willing to pay the long term deal that
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Speaker 1: Yawn it's looking for. So I have to find the
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Speaker 1: right trade partner. I think they will. Uh. And my
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Speaker 1: guest is before the draft that Yahn equal be on
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Speaker 1: a different team, Tony. It's uh weird that football seems
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Speaker 1: so irrelevant compared to what you've been through the last
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. But yeah, I tell you, JP it
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Speaker 1: puts things in perspective. That's for siophoria and uh and
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Speaker 1: uh you know, and I think when I know, for
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Speaker 1: me going through something like that to try to find
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Speaker 1: you know, what can you learn from it? You know what?
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Speaker 1: What can I tell you? And I think for me,
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Speaker 1: what it's done is more than anything. It's reminded me of.
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Speaker 1: You know, how many great people have my life and
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Speaker 1: great friends and I cannot I mean I talked about
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Speaker 1: the healthcare workers and they're just complete stud I mean
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Speaker 1: the people that dealt with me, your studs, there's no
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Speaker 1: other way to say, there's no regard for themselves and
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Speaker 1: to take care of me like that's awesome. But also
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Speaker 1: I mean this the people I have my life and
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Speaker 1: my family, so many good friends, to the Jaguars organization
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Speaker 1: and people at my church, and um, I can't tell
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Speaker 1: you how many people drop meals off and taking care
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Speaker 1: of my family when I would be really sick, and
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Speaker 1: making sure we have everything we need from medicine to
15:26
Speaker 1: everything else because everyone's been quarantined here. So UM, really
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Speaker 1: thankful for you know, I feel pretty blessed by God.
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Speaker 1: You know, we're a great life. But part of that
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Speaker 1: is the great friends and the great people, um that
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Speaker 1: he's put in my life. I mean that, so many
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Speaker 1: people reaching out to me and still do by text
15:47
Speaker 1: and asking what they do and bring food over and
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Speaker 1: everything else. Um, it's just been amazing. So I've got
15:54
Speaker 1: great friends and that all those things you look back
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Speaker 1: and you're thankful for it. And I get to work
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Speaker 1: for a great organization, do you know, like the Jaguars.
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Speaker 1: Also my other company that worked with has been great
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Speaker 1: of them. You feel pretty blessed to have that many
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Speaker 1: people care about you and I really kind of take
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Speaker 1: care of you at a time like this. Tony Boselli
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Speaker 1: first radio appearance since we're turning home. We love you, man,
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Speaker 1: and glad you're getting healthier by the day and I
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Speaker 1: can't wait to see you soon. Man, thanks for your
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Speaker 1: good news. As soon as I get this last test
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Speaker 1: back to worry about social Thank you. So what we
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Speaker 1: can do the show? Will do the show together, Come
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Speaker 1: on over the house next time, Tony BASSELLI j wanting us.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon, Manu. The pride of the
16:35
Speaker 1: Jaguars left tackle you wanting us on the phone back
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Speaker 1: in a moment. Great visit there with Tony obviously good
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Speaker 1: to hear that voice. I'm glad he's doing well. Um
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Speaker 1: you'll hear the podcast of that coming up on Jaguars
16:47
Speaker 1: dot Com and the Jaguars official podcast pages as well.
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Speaker 1: Back in a moment, John Ozan joins us with more.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour and thanks to Tony
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Speaker 1: John Oshan joins us now senior writer Jaguars dot Com
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Speaker 1: and John Good afternoon. First off, how are you well?
21:31
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me follow this JP. I appreciate it.
21:36
Speaker 1: The the best player and franchise history, the face of
21:39
Speaker 1: the franchise for years, Uh with that kind of story,
21:43
Speaker 1: and now now people get to listen to me. So
21:46
Speaker 1: I couldn't be happier that. Uh, he's healthy, and I
21:50
Speaker 1: couldn't be happier these sounds like he's recovering. I'm oh
21:54
Speaker 1: does that makes fun and Tony a lot we all do.
21:56
Speaker 1: But thank goodness, great to hear that voice today, wasn't it? Uh? Yes?
22:02
Speaker 1: And in in a month I'll be tired of hearing
22:05
Speaker 1: it again. For today I was ecstatic to hear, no doubt. Um,
22:10
Speaker 1: the biggest I guess national news around the Jaguars right
22:13
Speaker 1: now is unique in Gockway. And he's got an itchy
22:17
Speaker 1: Twitter finger these days, and he has a lot of
22:22
Speaker 1: uh well, I don't even know how to describe it.
22:24
Speaker 1: He's upset obviously with the organization and how they've gone
22:27
Speaker 1: about this thing. What is the at the end game
22:29
Speaker 1: hasn't changed as of right now. I mean, as of
22:31
Speaker 1: right now, the Jaguars still on him back, and I
22:34
Speaker 1: think they can find a deal, but it's seemingly by
22:36
Speaker 1: the day. Um, it feels like that in Gota has
22:39
Speaker 1: just had enough, no matter the number. Yeah, I guess,
22:42
Speaker 1: And you know, I think it's too bad. And I think,
22:47
Speaker 1: you know, nobody really knows what was off outside of
22:51
Speaker 1: a few parties. It certainly sounds to me like and
22:56
Speaker 1: got Way last year really was hurt by whatever happened
23:02
Speaker 1: last offseason and kind of moving forward, and I don't
23:06
Speaker 1: know if he was rightfully to be hurt. And you know,
23:11
Speaker 1: if January's really did something that was insulting or you know, wrong,
23:17
Speaker 1: or if it was taken that way. All that I know,
23:20
Speaker 1: people are gonna take sides on this. That's so hard
23:23
Speaker 1: to know. Unless you're a privat conversation, all you can
23:26
Speaker 1: do is really speculate. But clearly, no matter how we
23:30
Speaker 1: got here, it feels like we're here, and uh, I
23:33
Speaker 1: sort of agree with Tony. It's it's it's harder and
23:36
Speaker 1: harder to see in god way playing for the team
23:38
Speaker 1: next year, um, because it seems like somebody will call
23:46
Speaker 1: and make a deal. The only tricky part with that,
23:49
Speaker 1: JP is you know, it still goes back to somebody's
23:52
Speaker 1: got to be willing to give up a draft pick, yes,
23:57
Speaker 1: but also evidently pay him whatever number did he want,
24:07
Speaker 1: And I don't know. If that happens, then you have
24:11
Speaker 1: to assume that the Jaguars misread the market and are
24:15
Speaker 1: offering him a lot less than anybody else would, if
24:17
Speaker 1: that makes sense what I just said. So you know,
24:23
Speaker 1: at some point some team say the numbers one million
24:27
Speaker 1: a year for five years. I don't know what the
24:28
Speaker 1: number is to say that's it, and say that Jaguars
24:31
Speaker 1: offered that, or offered twenty whatever it is, is some
24:35
Speaker 1: other team really want him that much more to offer
24:38
Speaker 1: him more than that in a first round pick. I
24:42
Speaker 1: think that's what's still gonna be tricky. And I'm sure
24:46
Speaker 1: the Jaguars would not want to give him up for
24:48
Speaker 1: like a you know pick in the draft, right. I
24:52
Speaker 1: want to as high of a pick as they can get,
24:54
Speaker 1: at least one pick. Yeah, And I keep hearing people, well,
24:58
Speaker 1: why don't they just trade it for whatever they can?
25:00
Speaker 1: Yet look at their asses, you know, and this is
25:03
Speaker 1: not a case they don't feel if people have to
25:07
Speaker 1: talk to, they don't remotely feel like they've done this
25:11
Speaker 1: player wrong. So there's not a sense I wouldn't think of, well,
25:17
Speaker 1: let's do him a favor and just ship him off
25:19
Speaker 1: to a team, or he'll be happier for a third
25:22
Speaker 1: round pick. Man, That's not what this is. Because they
25:26
Speaker 1: feel like they offered a fair deal last year. More
25:29
Speaker 1: than that, they feel like they did that a year
25:31
Speaker 1: before they had so um, you know, I think it's
25:35
Speaker 1: gonna take I would think at least a first round pick. Um.
25:39
Speaker 1: And then again, it keeps going back to This is
25:44
Speaker 1: a guy who has had ten sacks one So I
25:51
Speaker 1: don't know what the overall market value outside of Jacksonville is.
25:56
Speaker 1: First round pick maybe, but then on top of that
25:58
Speaker 1: to pay the yeah, five years, hundred million or whatever
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Speaker 1: you want. You know, I suppose it could happen, but
26:07
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's going to be as easy
26:10
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Speaker 1: or four months ago. I tricky because it just felt
26:17
Speaker 1: like a resolution was a long way away. I didn't
26:19
Speaker 1: think it could be this. It's become tricky quickly and
26:24
Speaker 1: it will continue to beat tricky. And yeah, keep an
26:26
Speaker 1: eye on Twitter for the latest, you know. Earlier the week,
26:29
Speaker 1: Doug Marone, John Osian's with US Jaguars dot Com senior
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Speaker 1: writer Doug Maron did a media conference video with local media.
26:38
Speaker 1: We've heard from him on on our shows a couple
26:40
Speaker 1: of times. It was the first time he sat down
26:41
Speaker 1: with the group as a whole, and I found it
26:43
Speaker 1: interesting that I think Me O'Brien from First Coast snows
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Speaker 1: to ask him about playmakers on offense do you have enough?
26:52
Speaker 1: And he's kind of took a second, and then Johnny said,
26:55
Speaker 1: you know, I think the answer would be no, there
26:58
Speaker 1: aren't enough playmakers on office. Where do they find playmakers
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Speaker 1: on offense? Well, um, I think anybody who watched him
27:07
Speaker 1: last year would think, you know, I sort of don't
27:10
Speaker 1: have enough. Um, I don't think you can ever have
27:13
Speaker 1: enough in this league right now. But I just start
27:16
Speaker 1: a wide receiver and then the other wide receivers are
27:19
Speaker 1: are capable, but are they are they playmakers on that level?
27:25
Speaker 1: That sort of changed my thinking. I you know, I
27:27
Speaker 1: have been thinking all along in terms of the draft,
27:30
Speaker 1: that wide receiver was really possible, especially as deep as
27:34
Speaker 1: the draft classes. I was thinking, Okay, third or fourth
27:37
Speaker 1: round makes a lot of sense for a receiver. It's
27:39
Speaker 1: so deep that it is said that you can get
27:41
Speaker 1: a guy there. But listening to Doug on Tuesday made
27:46
Speaker 1: me think, if Festival is available, what are your guys
27:50
Speaker 1: from Alabama? Are their duty or rug somebody like that
27:55
Speaker 1: at twenty? Could that be incentive for them to wait
27:59
Speaker 1: on corner until the second round and go ahead and
28:04
Speaker 1: take that playmaker Because the bottom line is for this offense,
28:09
Speaker 1: they had trouble scoring touchdowns last year and if if
28:13
Speaker 1: you can get a rookie, who can get you four
28:17
Speaker 1: or five special touchdown, meaning turn a twenty yard passed
28:21
Speaker 1: into a sixty yard touchdown. That's a lot to ask,
28:24
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying. The guy who can
28:25
Speaker 1: make an impact on the scoreboard, you know, and get
28:28
Speaker 1: a couple of more wins out of it, Maybe that's
28:31
Speaker 1: a route they go, but I think they've got to
28:33
Speaker 1: see special and wide receiver to take it at twenty
28:38
Speaker 1: or else you would see them go ahead and be
28:40
Speaker 1: content to get in the third round, our fourth round,
28:44
Speaker 1: right sure, Um, And we're only three weeks away from
28:48
Speaker 1: the opening round of the NFL Draft, at least for now,
28:51
Speaker 1: and it's going to be an interesting three weeks ahead, John, Um.
28:55
Speaker 1: We enjoy your writing right now on Jaguars dot com.
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Speaker 1: Jaguars defensive end and outside linebacker from the University of Kentucky.
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Speaker 1: An outstanding rookie season for him, but that really is
35:20
Speaker 1: not unexpected for you. I think you saw this one
35:22
Speaker 1: coming with Josh. Yeah, he's a young man, the first
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Speaker 1: by week, so I wasn't surprised. You know, he has
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Speaker 1: all the physical tools to be a great pass rusher
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Speaker 1: in the league, has the personality, has the demeanor, has
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Speaker 1: he carried himself that way. On the offensive line, Joan
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Speaker 1: Taylor had his rookie season last year. He was the
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36:25
Speaker 1: really stood out, big, strong, physical guy on the right side.
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36:48
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36:51
Speaker 1: He's got a little bit of nasty inside of him,
36:53
Speaker 1: and being over on that right side, I think is
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Speaker 1: something that will benefit him. He obviously has the frame,
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Speaker 1: has the physical side us to be able to handle things.
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Speaker 1: So I thought he was a great value pick where
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Speaker 1: the ability, all the talent, the ceiling was high with
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37:34
Speaker 1: got a glimpse of what he can be. I think
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Speaker 1: stretch the field. That's valuable in any system. I don't
37:56
Speaker 1: care if you're a dinking dunk offense pro style offense,
37:58
Speaker 1: because you're gonna run play action, You're gonna get safeties
38:01
Speaker 1: that come to the line of scrimmage, whether that's to
38:03
Speaker 1: take away some of the quick throws or to try
38:05
Speaker 1: to take away the run, and you're gonna have to
38:07
Speaker 1: have somebody who can get behind the defense at times,
38:09
Speaker 1: and DJ is absolutely that guy. Look with us from
38:13
Speaker 1: SEC Network and w j o X Radio in Birmingham, Alabama.
38:17
Speaker 1: Now to the NFL Draft. A lot of big time
38:21
Speaker 1: names coming out of the SEC. I gotta start with
38:24
Speaker 1: quarterback though that's the big question mark everybody has. I
38:27
Speaker 1: don't know if the Jaguars are going that way at
38:29
Speaker 1: nine or twenty, but I'm gonna ask you to a
38:32
Speaker 1: or Burrow and why I'm taking Joe Burrow. Um. I
38:38
Speaker 1: when I watched two a tongue of violo and throw
38:40
Speaker 1: the football. There's nothing not to like about it. Um
38:43
Speaker 1: it is. It is artwork. To be able to see
38:46
Speaker 1: the way he levels the football, the accuracy, the anticipation
38:49
Speaker 1: it is. It's just a beautiful thing to witness. I
38:53
Speaker 1: think my main question would be how much will I
38:55
Speaker 1: be witnessing this in NFL games for the next five years.
38:58
Speaker 1: That's my only problem. And it's not just a history
39:03
Speaker 1: of injuries. It's a consecutive history of injuries, and even
39:06
Speaker 1: some of the things in spring ball that have happened
39:09
Speaker 1: to him that haven't really been documented and talked about,
39:11
Speaker 1: and some of the smaller things where two years ago,
39:14
Speaker 1: the amount of time that he just came off the
39:15
Speaker 1: field and spent in the injury tent, those things are
39:18
Speaker 1: concerning to me. I know what I'm getting with Joe Burrow. Tough,
39:21
Speaker 1: physical competitor, selfless, a guy that's got a chip on
39:25
Speaker 1: his shoulder and has had to prove people wrong his
39:28
Speaker 1: entire life. Not maybe not his entire life, but once
39:31
Speaker 1: he stepped on campus in Columbus, I think there were
39:34
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of doubters with Joe Burrow,
39:36
Speaker 1: and he still has those people fueling him on a
39:40
Speaker 1: day to day basis. Joe Burrow doesn't have maybe as
39:43
Speaker 1: strong of an arm as a lot of people would
39:45
Speaker 1: want out of it, out of a number one overall
39:47
Speaker 1: pick at quarterback. But he's got accuracy, he's got anticipation,
39:51
Speaker 1: he's got great pocket presents, great feeling the pocket. I
39:53
Speaker 1: think he has underrated mobility. He's got great accuracy on
39:56
Speaker 1: the run. And I think there's a lot of people
39:59
Speaker 1: jp that take what he got with Joe Brady last
40:02
Speaker 1: year and say, well, it was a system deal and
40:04
Speaker 1: he just was able to utilize the system. I actually
40:06
Speaker 1: think there's value in that because ed Orgeron brings in
40:10
Speaker 1: Joe Brady last January drops this brand new playbook on
40:14
Speaker 1: the table, and I sat down with Joe and he
40:16
Speaker 1: told me he turned the first page and he said, oh,
40:18
Speaker 1: this is different. He turned the next page. This is different.
40:21
Speaker 1: He said, I got pages in and the whole thing
40:24
Speaker 1: was different. And he said, Okay, this is not a remodel.
40:27
Speaker 1: This is a complete makeover. And he liked it. Well.
40:30
Speaker 1: He was able to take that in January and then
40:33
Speaker 1: run it in in September and look what he did
40:36
Speaker 1: with it, throwing sixty touchdowns and blow it away the
40:39
Speaker 1: single season sec passing yardage marked by yards. So I
40:44
Speaker 1: think it shows that he can adapt, he could take
40:47
Speaker 1: something new and he can make it his own, and
40:49
Speaker 1: he's not gonna have an issue changing morphine doing different
40:53
Speaker 1: things during his professional career. So for me, Joe Burrow
40:57
Speaker 1: is a guy that I know I can plug and
40:58
Speaker 1: go with. Right now, there's all actually gonna be a
41:00
Speaker 1: learning curvets NFL. But I don't think you're gonna go
41:03
Speaker 1: back and watch the hits Heachs took from Derek Brown
41:05
Speaker 1: in the Auburn game this year, the hits he took
41:07
Speaker 1: from Central Forard in the Bowl game last year. And
41:09
Speaker 1: tell me that you've got injury concerns with Joe Burrow,
41:12
Speaker 1: they're just not real. You're not gonna have him. I
41:14
Speaker 1: have serious doubts that to a tongue of voloa is
41:18
Speaker 1: gonna be healthy for a consistent period of time during
41:21
Speaker 1: his NFL career. And with the way offensive coordinators are
41:25
Speaker 1: shuffled around to the NFL, offense has changed quite a bit.
41:29
Speaker 1: And that's a good note about Burrow. There. You mentioned
41:31
Speaker 1: Derek Brown, and we've seen him. He really took over
41:35
Speaker 1: the SEC last year. The guy was unstoppable at times,
41:39
Speaker 1: even in the Georgia game. They lost that game. Uh,
41:42
Speaker 1: I called that game on radio. There were moments in
41:44
Speaker 1: that game where that good Georgia offensive line couldn't hold
41:47
Speaker 1: him back. When he gets going, Where is he at
41:51
Speaker 1: his best? And how do you slow him down as
41:53
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman? Uh, you gotta get the ball away
41:57
Speaker 1: from him. But then he actually tracked plays down to
42:00
Speaker 1: extremely well. It's something one of one of the parts
42:02
Speaker 1: of his games that I like the most is you've
42:04
Speaker 1: got a three pounder that when the ball runs away
42:08
Speaker 1: from him, you see him tracking those plays down, often
42:11
Speaker 1: coming from the backside to be able to help make tackles.
42:14
Speaker 1: The energy is there, the hustle is there, the motor
42:17
Speaker 1: is there, Finishing plays is there. You're not gonna be
42:20
Speaker 1: able to just double team and get away with it.
42:22
Speaker 1: You can't single him up. He's loose enough to win
42:26
Speaker 1: one on one passed rush situations and obviously has the
42:29
Speaker 1: power to be able to withstand just about anything. It's
42:31
Speaker 1: gonna be a be thrown at him. So I don't
42:33
Speaker 1: think you can go wrong with Derek Brown. Um, he's mature,
42:37
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be a behavioral problem once you get
42:40
Speaker 1: him into your facility. He's got a little boy, uh.
42:43
Speaker 1: You know, he loves to play video games, so he's
42:45
Speaker 1: gonna be in the house doing that. So I think
42:47
Speaker 1: he can be a dominant, disruptive force on the interior
42:51
Speaker 1: of any NFL defensive line because I think he has
42:53
Speaker 1: versatility something that helps him. You've seen him as a
42:56
Speaker 1: stand up outside rusher. You've seen him as a three technique,
42:59
Speaker 1: you see him as a nose hard, you've seen him
43:00
Speaker 1: out playing the five technique. He can do a lot
43:02
Speaker 1: of different things. And I think no matter who select
43:05
Speaker 1: him or where they play him, you're gonna get value.
43:08
Speaker 1: With Derek Brown, Cold Cublic with this from SEC Network
43:11
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43:14
Speaker 1: unmocked drafts that could be headed to the Jaguars if
43:18
Speaker 1: you buy into that stuff is Javon ken Law from
43:20
Speaker 1: South Carolina. And I heard him talk at the press
43:23
Speaker 1: conference at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, and his background
43:26
Speaker 1: story is unbelievable, the way he came back from basically
43:30
Speaker 1: a homeless situation, working his way up. Now he's gonna
43:34
Speaker 1: be a first round pick in the NFL draft. Just
43:37
Speaker 1: hearing him talk lets you know that he's seen a
43:40
Speaker 1: lot more than just a football field. It's the young
43:43
Speaker 1: man that lived in his his his father's automobile for
43:48
Speaker 1: an extended period of time. He was homeless, and it
43:51
Speaker 1: took him a wild open up to that. Some of
43:54
Speaker 1: the some of the South Carolina coaching staff actually told
43:56
Speaker 1: us that a few years ago, and you know, they
43:59
Speaker 1: just they said, man, his background, you wouldn't believe it,
44:02
Speaker 1: and sort of led us into it. But I didn't
44:04
Speaker 1: think he was ready to talk about it. Last year,
44:06
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44:08
Speaker 1: sat down with us, and he laid it all out
44:10
Speaker 1: for us, and we could not believe what we were hearing.
44:13
Speaker 1: Uh motel to motel in the automobile, and you hear
44:18
Speaker 1: the story about him coming from junior college to South
44:20
Speaker 1: Carolina and essentially just needing meals one of the reasons
44:25
Speaker 1: that he kept playing football because he thought about giving
44:27
Speaker 1: it up for a while. Um. He's a remarkable story.
44:30
Speaker 1: He's very driven. He's another guy that that recently has
44:33
Speaker 1: had a child. I think the maturity is there, has
44:36
Speaker 1: a chip on his shoulder, has a lot to prove,
44:38
Speaker 1: has a lot of people that he wants to help
44:40
Speaker 1: and somebody. It's interesting that the defensive lineman that just
44:44
Speaker 1: left Jacksonville, you almost have a clone in Javon Kinlaw
44:48
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44:53
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44:57
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45:00
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45:02
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45:04
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45:06
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45:10
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45:12
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45:14
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45:16
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45:19
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45:23
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45:25
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45:29
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45:31
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50:27
Speaker 1: How are you hey? JF doing good? Uh? Enjoined the
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Speaker 1: son and UH really enjoyed listening to Tony talk at
50:36
Speaker 1: the beginning of the show. It's good to hear his voice.
50:38
Speaker 1: Wasn't that something? I mean, his Uh, the last couple
50:41
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Speaker 1: a little bit of that um And to have him
50:49
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50:51
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50:54
Speaker 1: I think it it really hits home. That was the
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51:00
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51:02
Speaker 1: for me. Changes the game, doesn't it? Yeah, I mean
51:06
Speaker 1: it it really it really did for us too, you know,
51:08
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, and and stayed in touch with
51:11
Speaker 1: Tony via tech cough and on throughout the process and
51:14
Speaker 1: and uh you know, and obviously was was very scared
51:19
Speaker 1: for a while. I mean, look, when when you're in ICU,
51:23
Speaker 1: that's that's no joke, you know, I mean that's life
51:25
Speaker 1: and death. And uh, you know, so I could I
51:29
Speaker 1: can't understand what he went through because I didn't go
51:32
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51:34
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51:36
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51:39
Speaker 1: that do get very sick, is that you know, you're
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51:52
Speaker 1: It's not like you're in a hospital room and you
51:54
Speaker 1: have friends and family by you. You're by yourself, you know.
51:58
Speaker 1: So I'm pretty carry saw it. Glad he's getting better
52:02
Speaker 1: and very close to being fully cleared. Jeff Lagman is
52:06
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52:08
Speaker 1: are We. We mentioned this with John a little while
52:10
Speaker 1: ago and at the very end of Tony's conversation the
52:12
Speaker 1: Unique and got Way stuff. I know you're a huge
52:15
Speaker 1: Twitter guy, logs it's funny how the world has changed
52:21
Speaker 1: over the last seven eight nine years or so, and
52:25
Speaker 1: that has become the medium to put news or put
52:29
Speaker 1: info out, and certainly it is for Unique and Gockway
52:32
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, And look, uh, I call myself kind
52:36
Speaker 1: of a Twitter troll. You know, it's not so much
52:39
Speaker 1: active on it and tweeting and all that. I mean
52:41
Speaker 1: occasionally go on it and kind of see what's going
52:44
Speaker 1: on in the world. And I've seen some of a
52:46
Speaker 1: unique tweets and and uh okay, I've got nothing but
52:52
Speaker 1: blowing things to stay about. A got way the football player.
52:55
Speaker 1: I mean, he's I mean the only negative that you
52:57
Speaker 1: could probably say that is he as great as a
53:01
Speaker 1: run defender as he is a pass rusher. No, but
53:03
Speaker 1: he is. He's a great player. He's committed what he
53:07
Speaker 1: did last year on a well blown market contract. In
53:11
Speaker 1: the commitment, the way he's throwing his body around, I
53:14
Speaker 1: got much respect for him and his game. I'm not
53:18
Speaker 1: a fan though, of really playing politics or playing games
53:22
Speaker 1: or we're trying to make things happen via social media,
53:27
Speaker 1: and I just don't think it helps. I don't think
53:29
Speaker 1: it helps the team if they were to do anything
53:32
Speaker 1: of that nature. I don't think it helps the individual
53:35
Speaker 1: player and trying to get in or out of a
53:38
Speaker 1: situation that he may be in. And uh so I
53:42
Speaker 1: think that John could probably learn some things there, um,
53:46
Speaker 1: because I just don't think at the end of the day,
53:49
Speaker 1: that helps you as a as a professional. But he's
53:53
Speaker 1: entitled to it. He can do whatever he wants, you know,
53:56
Speaker 1: and at some point he's gonna be somewhere and he's
53:58
Speaker 1: gonna be a really good football player for somebody. It's
54:02
Speaker 1: interesting because no matter what happens on that front, the
54:05
Speaker 1: Twitter front and all that, it doesn't really change anything, right,
54:09
Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of that's kind of my point
54:14
Speaker 1: about the social media thing. I mean, you can tweet
54:18
Speaker 1: all you want, but at the end of the day,
54:21
Speaker 1: if the Jaguars, or if in Gockway, if it's if
54:25
Speaker 1: it's vice versa, they don't have to react to it.
54:29
Speaker 1: They don't have to respond to it, they don't have
54:30
Speaker 1: to do anything. So at the end of the day,
54:32
Speaker 1: it's really it's wasted or energy. And so from that
54:38
Speaker 1: aspect of it, I don't understand so, and and it's
54:41
Speaker 1: a shame that that something's happened to where in Gockway
54:48
Speaker 1: has now fallen out of favor of wanting to play
54:51
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, and I don't I don't understand why.
54:54
Speaker 1: I mean, there's something that happened when he said that, uh,
54:59
Speaker 1: he's never gonna forge that and he said bad business
55:02
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he said, it's not about
55:03
Speaker 1: the money anymore, right, Yeah, I mean I don't know
55:07
Speaker 1: what happened that led to that, and that's something that
55:10
Speaker 1: you know. And and here's the thing. If you're gonna
55:12
Speaker 1: make those kind of tweets and obviously you're not gonna
55:15
Speaker 1: release that information, or if you're not gonna make people
55:19
Speaker 1: privy to that information, then then don't. Then don't put
55:22
Speaker 1: a tweet out like that, you know. It just it
55:24
Speaker 1: just doesn't serve any purpose, you know, uh, I mean,
55:28
Speaker 1: just because you're expecting people to have blind staith to
55:31
Speaker 1: believe that what you're saying there's something more to it
55:34
Speaker 1: and that you're being upfront and honest and that there
55:38
Speaker 1: is really something there, and you would react the same way. Well,
55:41
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people are like, well wait
55:43
Speaker 1: a minute, if you're not gonna tell us, then they
55:45
Speaker 1: don't say anything, you know. So I don't know. It's
55:49
Speaker 1: it's a tough situation because a good football player, and
55:51
Speaker 1: you'd love to be able to have Josh Allen and
55:54
Speaker 1: a gock Way for many years to come in a
55:57
Speaker 1: defense that would have great flexibility of need to play
56:00
Speaker 1: at four three or three four because I mean, these
56:02
Speaker 1: two guys are are legitimate three four outside linebackers, and
56:06
Speaker 1: they also are good enough to where they can play
56:08
Speaker 1: with their hand in the ground and plays defensive ends
56:11
Speaker 1: and and having a defense that would have the flexibility
56:14
Speaker 1: to kind of go both ways for you, you know,
56:16
Speaker 1: a few years to come, because you have a cheap
56:18
Speaker 1: contract and Josh Allen as a rookie and you would
56:22
Speaker 1: have a very expensive contract within God Clay, I mean,
56:25
Speaker 1: it would be nice, but I don't know. I don't
56:27
Speaker 1: know if that's gonna be able to happen or not.
56:29
Speaker 1: We'll see. We're three weeks away. Jeff Loghaman is with
56:32
Speaker 1: US Jaguars analysts. Three weeks away now from the start
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Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft. I know you've been digging in
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Speaker 1: looking at tape of all these prospects lives where if
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Speaker 1: you had to pick tonight, if tonight was that you're
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Speaker 1: on the clock at number nine overall and everybody's available, hypothetically,
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Speaker 1: where are you going right now? Well, I mean, look, uh,
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Speaker 1: there's and I don't I even looked at the guys honestly, JP,
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Speaker 1: because the social distancing thing. I know, you're being kind
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Speaker 1: of facetious there, Uh, with all this, but I was
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Speaker 1: able to get my hands on, thank you very much,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Football I P Department, get my hands on the
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Speaker 1: an iPad where I can now watch some film on
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Speaker 1: some college prospects, so that when you get closer to
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Speaker 1: the draft. Yes, I'll be able to kind of speak
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Speaker 1: eloquently on that. But here's the thing I will tell you.
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Speaker 1: There are positions that are at a premium and there's
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Speaker 1: no question about that. And and some of the positions,
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Speaker 1: obviously quarterback cornerback being two of them, and obviously the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars I think I have a need at both of them.
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Speaker 1: And uh, and I'm not saying that they should draft
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Speaker 1: the quarterback and I'm not saying that they will draft
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Speaker 1: the quarterback. I'm just saying that until you know you
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Speaker 1: have a guy, you gotta still think that under consideration.
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Speaker 1: Cornerback is a big hole with his football team right now,
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Speaker 1: and so I would not be surprised if they go
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Speaker 1: there and I with the young man at Ohio State, Okuda,
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Speaker 1: I guess is very high a lot of people's boards,
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Speaker 1: so you know, so we'll see what happens. But uh,
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Speaker 1: but here's the one thing that's for certain. You got
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Speaker 1: a lot of picks, and you got you got the
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Speaker 1: ability to improve your football team with the draft this year.
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Speaker 1: And this is as a critical of moment that's ever
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Speaker 1: been seen in Jaguar's history, because you need to change
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Speaker 1: the direction of this franchise of where it's been to
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Speaker 1: where it's going to go in the future. Twelve draft picks,
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Speaker 1: did they all make the team? Lives feel like, well,
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Speaker 1: here's the thing. If all twelve draft picks make it,
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Speaker 1: then they're making it just because they're draft picks. You
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Speaker 1: got to earn the right to be on the squad,
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Speaker 1: and so that that should prohibit some from making the
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Speaker 1: football team because you're not going to bat a thousand
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Speaker 1: when it comes to picking in the draft. Nobody does. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean very few have ever done. I mean, you
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Speaker 1: go back, what is it the great draft of Pittsburgh Steelers.
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Speaker 1: What year was at that they had Hall of Fame seventy?
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Speaker 1: Was that early seventies before my time I can played, Well,
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Speaker 1: I was young too, so, but I mean one of
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Speaker 1: those if you could have one of those drafts I mean,
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Speaker 1: which hasn't never been replicated in NFL history. But my
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Speaker 1: point being is that this can change the direction of
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Speaker 1: your franchise, and certainly sometimes you have the ability to
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Speaker 1: change that direction with just one pick, and that's by
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Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback, certainly, and that's why I say you
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Speaker 1: never take that option off the table, and if you do,
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Speaker 1: you're a fool. All right, Locks, great stuff is always
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Speaker 1: stay safe this week and we'll catch up with you
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Speaker 1: next week. Log. It's good talking to you, okay, Thank you, Jeff,
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Speaker 1: Jeff Locking with Jaguars Analyst are thanks to John Osier
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Speaker 1: as well, Cool public from SEC Network and the great
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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli who was back home getting healthy by the day.
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