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Milwaukee Reaction with Elijah Poe, Dave Chanley & Michelle Garmon (The IndyCar Report with Eljiah Poe, 3.15) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_04]: You are listening to the indie car report with Elijah Poe, and it's only on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This week, Elijah joined by Tipton Tribune, an L. Wood Collider, Sports Center, Michelle Garmin, and Dave Chandler to recap the races in Milwaukee and talk about the latest indie car news.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back to the Indie Carver report with Elijah Poe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Elijah Poe here with Dave Chandley, Michelle Garmin and Greg.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're here to talk about two races at Milwaukee, but one winner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Paddo Award winning both races at Milwaukee.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you also have another storyline with Alex Plo winning his fifth Indie Car Championship in six years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was an event for weekend, guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Lot of schedules.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just a five championships, let's say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, cause it was born a row.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's downing.
0:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he was a, obviously, the star of the show the weekend has to be pattoe award, but Alex Polo did what he needed to do to get the point he needed to win the championship, and when that second race ended and they were kind of announcing just all the historical markers that Alex Polo has reached by the age of 29.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It just makes it a scratch your head and just be in all of how great he is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's not even 30.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's absolutely unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're right, Elijah, it is, and when you think his mindset was to win the races, at least one of those two races, I really believed he thought he could, because he was going to have the quote, why he did have the quote position for the second race.
1:44
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't start front row for the first race because he was part one of those drivers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's cars that was punished in the nine spots going in to the weekend, but I think once he got out of the front,
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[SPEAKER_01]: wasn't in the lead and in traffic, it could kind of saw how things were going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think his strategy was then just to finish a head of Kirkwood and to finish the race and finish the race.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he was probably happy to be in the top 10. podium would have been great, but he wanted to finish he wanted to win the championship over the weekend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he wanted to go into the last race with that hanging.
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[SPEAKER_01]: over him even though it would have taken a really unique set of circumstances for him to lose the championship even heading into that final race with such a commandingly that he would have still had.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think he did a really good job of staying out of trouble, and that was, and I think you're right, he early on, he thought maybe I can win, but then he realized, maybe I don't have the car to win, let's just stay out of trouble and he did a great job of avoiding any trouble, not that there was much, because there really was not much trouble for both
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll tell you what, why this weekend was so important, I think, is we've kind of had this brewing rivalry between Alex below and Pato Award that hasn't really come to fruition for whatever reason, because Alex below so damn good is the reason.
3:23
[SPEAKER_04]: But having it this weekend, I've always kind of thought maybe we could have a Mario AJ Part
3:31
[SPEAKER_04]: And if we do, I think it's going to be Alex blow and pato award and to finally see pato be the guy that we expect over the weekend, not that he hasn't been great.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've, we've commented on this podcast how great he's been for his situation, but to see him get both those wins, it kind of sets you up for a really cool 20 27.
3:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I still think Kirkwood is, he's going to be his biggest competitor next year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think
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[SPEAKER_01]: at the end of this year, I want the new car not coming for a year after, you know, a couple years away.
4:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think that I wouldn't be surprised.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Kirkwood not that Patto can't be up there too, but I do think Kirkwood still in the mix and would be remiss to overlook that fact because he had considering where he had to start in the bad luck that he got wrecked.
4:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't really his fault.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in this weekend and practice and came back and had the races he did with the how far back his starting position was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought was pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is the patto we've been waiting to see Greg kind of said that where we want patto to step out as a driver that can compete for championships.
4:43
[SPEAKER_02]: We all know he's a fan favorite.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We all know he's super, super talented, and this season, and then last couple of seasons specifically, he just really hasn't had the results.
4:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think picking up two wins in one day just goes to show you how great of a driver he is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that second race, although it was technically the first race with all that schedule stuff mixed up, was able to pick up a win at the, around 90 lap start when they restarted, and I think that era McLaren team ran.
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[SPEAKER_02]: a really good race in shout out to Christian Loonguard as well who now sits you know two points ahead of Kyle Kirkwood right now in the championship order he's having a hell of a season and I can't wait to see where he goes next year.
5:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, not all are often that if you finish second place in the championship standing, you lose your ride and saying, I still don't get it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hard to figure out, but also before the first race even began, this is the first time I thought.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Potto is happy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is not, he hasn't been happy all year with his pace.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Potto was happy, and I thought, oh my, this could really be a factor, and it was, he won.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I know it, I don't think it's been officially announced,
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[SPEAKER_01]: One, one guard is going to be at a gonna see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's your hope, driver?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Next year, and I'll tell you what, won't that make what a formal one, two punch that should gonna ask you to put on the track every weekend?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, leave it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They're gonna be, they're gonna be, I've been thinking of Paddo as the second most talented young driver for the last couple of years and loon guard may have taken that title.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and he'd obviously be replacing Scott Dixon, who I think had one of the more interesting races in the second race of their day yesterday, holding up Scott McLaughlin as that backed up traffic to kind of let Reenus VK get through with a podium and credit to Reenus, obviously seventh in that first race and on the podium in that second race, even though I have to say that podium was kind of handed to him there with Scott Dixon stopping up Scotty Mack.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, Alex below is the story of the weekend and Paddo Ward is second, but let's not forget Rita's VK, who is just every single race, and what things he's on again, who goes Holland Jarred never heard of it before last year, and he's competing with everybody.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's insane how good he's been this year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If there was an MVP award, Alex blows winning it, but
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[SPEAKER_04]: Reena's weekend is getting some votes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever seen a person that finished second, more disappointed and a person that finished third happier than you did after the second race?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Good point, I hadn't thought of it that way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's incredible, you have to think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's sitting right now 10th in the championship points.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's of head of one injury, two ganassies, a Meyer Shankar, both Ed Carpenter Racing cars, an air McLaren car, the 35th incredible season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's just incredible to see what he's doing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, VK has, he has been a driver that you just, you just root for every week to go out and do well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's so nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's polite when he got knocked out of the freedom to 50 and he thought it was Rasmussen's fault.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't after he saw the replay, he apologized and acknowledged his air, but I think he's got to be one of the most well-like drivers in the garage I would think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Despite being Dutch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you'll probably stay in that seat for next year, because if I'm him, why not?
8:37
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you're having, especially these last five races, the results are showing right now that this team can put a pretty competent car out on the grid.
8:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be interested to see what offers he can get, because I honestly think he deserves a bigger drive.
8:52
[SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time, you know, he's got the results right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He could build something here at whom goes on racing.
9:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey guys, I don't know if you've been following on on X that the way Connor daily has been everywhere and tweeting a lot and I know he's going to use drivers going to be there his excitement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm hoping that he is a full-time drive back to being a full-time driver next year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get the sense that maybe he is, but maybe I'm just that's just me hoping.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there's a real shot for dry and rimbled to pick him over McShumacher.
9:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't be super surprised.
9:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been hearing Mitch Schumacher to my, my her shank is what I've been hearing here in the last couple of weeks or reading about on some of these, you know, follow the people we follow the, yes.
9:46
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be interesting and I think Schumacher did not hurt himself pretty much the way he drove off of the weekend on the oval.
9:57
[SPEAKER_03]: When you think about wins and losses, I think the player in this whole thing that kind of hurt themselves was Kyle Collett and we know he's good.
10:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, poor Kyle Collett again and that second race just crashing out on his own error.
10:11
[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like this whole season he's had really, really great racemanship and great racecraft over the course of the season, but man, just no results to show for it.
10:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And I've heard rumors that he might not even be in the seat next year, and I hope he is because he's got the talent.
10:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't be as to, you know, he really didn't have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you looked at his qualifying, you looked at his practice speech.
10:32
[SPEAKER_01]: This probably may have been the worst car he had for a race, as far as speed and competitiveness.
10:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It needs young Brazilians.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, series has been big and Brazil for a long time since Emerson Fettipaldi and it's one of the biggest fan bases the Indicar has and Kyokal, that's the only Brazilian now and yeah, they still tune in because Tony can ons part of it and Ali is part of the whole thing, but we need some young Brazilian drivers in the series.
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[SPEAKER_03]: By the time we get done, we'll have 33 cars on a street course.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're absolutely right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Some owners.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We just need owners.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've got drivers for them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We just need some owners.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'll say this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It seems like a good investment right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Indicard seems like it would be a good place to put your money, because it seems like it's on the rise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: back to Schumacher for just a minute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has not really had trouble with the ovals this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what's surprising.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's actually been pretty good on all the ovals he's raised and he was good to get in the weekend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His main problems have been the road courses for street courses, but he's changed that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the last couple of street road courses, he's done so it'll be interesting for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think,
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[SPEAKER_01]: This final weekend is going to be key to him maybe and where he does in the next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And when I look at Mick Schumacher and you look at the standings, he's in 23rd right now, Kyle Kletz in 24th, Stingray Rob in 25th, and kind of the transition here, I would not have expected Christian Rasmussen to be sitting in 21st position right now after the year he had last year obviously picking up a win at Milwaukee and having a really great, he's got pace all season, but man, the results, he's Roman Grojan is ahead of them in the
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would have guessed he was in 12th.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's incredible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the ECR is a whole, I felt like this whole season, they've had pace in moments, but man, they have had no results to prove for it.
12:51
[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like that team is up on the rise, but statistically, and looking at the stats and the scores that they've brought in, they really have fallen back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No consistency, really no consistency.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think the good thing I like both, he's got them both back next year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's got Rossi in, uh, uh, Rasmus and Erco, both going to be back with ECR.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I like both of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think, uh, they add a lot to the series.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, uh, Elijah, remember when we did our season preview and, uh, we talked about Ed Carpenter Racing being the reviving and having, uh, and I said, yeah, I'll believe it when I see it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you remember that, not we're not seeing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not seeing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Say it right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Ray Hogg, what a down we can for that goodness.
13:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If mission we mentioned Malukus and how he really, I mean, he kind of called out Chevrolet, but he was truthful about it a little bit.
13:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, yeah, I saw that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he was truthful about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you look, I
13:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, okay, Chevy won with arrow McLaren this weekend, but the arrow has really been the only race team that As Chevy that has I think has really done has performed pretty well, but most consistently among that of course But when they brought in Brian Hunter Raider and the course of this season that only I think elevated and helped Arrow McLaren's performances for the rest of the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think having him and both Tony Kanon
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[SPEAKER_01]: For those drivers, I think was huge and I don't really see maybe a forecast that I've been proving a whole lot until they get to that new car.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I could be wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It will be interesting to see what they have for next year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That said, and Dreddy needs to take a really good look and make sure that over here in this race or error in this circuit right now, they stay with their Honda engines because they would switch from Honda to Chevy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much that sets them back next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think when you talk about David Malucas and Chevy, obviously unfortunate that he finishes in second again, but when you talk about Team Pinsky,
15:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I think their points in the championship standings kind of wrap up what their whole season has been David Malukas is in fifth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Scott McLaughlin is in sixth and Joseph New Garden is in seventh are those bad results by any means.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, not really, but are they what we expect out of team, Penske and especially those really talented drivers?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'd expect them to be competing for championships.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they've had some good pace here and there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and obviously the the points are saying that but they just can't string it together uh... in really compete uh... and which is unusual for team banski i really did feel bad for maluca's because the car belged it wasn't it was something with the car when on that restart it wasn't him the car kind of burped and that's all it took to get auto get the lead and uh... he wasn't going to give it up it you notice uh... there was a lot of passing going on but when a car got to the point
15:57
[SPEAKER_03]: He went in clean air.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was pretty much free.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He nobody was going to catch up with him until he got to the back of the pack.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I had great.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's no way anybody was catching him and less there was a yellow flag.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So just really bad luck for David Maluk.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because it reminded me of the 1986 Indy 500 when Kevin Cogan was running away.
16:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Everybody at the 500 was packing up their stuff because Kevin Cogan was going to win this race, go in a way and then all of a sudden there was a yellow flag and we had a dash
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, man, I felt bad for Malukus.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I thought for sure we're going to have our 100th winner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I honestly, I think that's why I like the Milwaukee miles so much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and shortovers in general, because man, that traffic, it is a real pain for those leaders and that those first five guys, uh, to race.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It adds such a unique element that really only indie car brings on a short over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just so fun to watch because you really never know how those back markers are going to react.
16:55
[SPEAKER_02]: We saw Scott Dixon kind of
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[SPEAKER_02]: slow-ups, Scotty Mac, and kind of let Patto through it, you know, you can play those games where you just don't get in other series.
17:05
[SPEAKER_03]: But David Maluchas will win races, I believe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I told my wife that she said, he can't win a race and I said, he's young.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He will win some races.
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[SPEAKER_04]: When he wins one, the damn will break and he will start winning a lot of them.
17:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'll tell you where he's not winning, and that's Laguna Saka, where I heard Townsend Bell said Alex Plough has an average finish of 1.2.
17:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, that is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is, and think about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has absolutely nothing to lose.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it won't matter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He won't, he can gamble.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He can get as aggressive as he wants to win this race because he's already won the championships.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now we can, this weekend, he just gets to go race without any other implications.
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[SPEAKER_01]: how he finishes in that race.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he wins by 15 seconds or more.
17:53
[SPEAKER_04]: He didn't get to celebrate really his championship at Milwaukee finishing where he did.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to finish it in style on Sunday I believe.
18:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the race there is a really good race to who is going to finish second and the
18:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think Christian Lungard probably has the upper hand.
18:20
[SPEAKER_02]: We know how good he is on road courses.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Kirkwood could scrap it, but you guys would think Lungard, Kirkwood, and Paddo Award are just sitting four points across each other.
18:29
[SPEAKER_02]: David Maluk is a little bit out of second place, unless he maybe has a surprise second place, 23 points behind Lungard right now in fifth place.
18:40
[SPEAKER_03]: The Milwaukee Mile is a race by itself.
18:43
[SPEAKER_03]: It stands alone.
18:44
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the longest venue other than Indianapolis, I believe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's the oldest day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Eight years before it, eight years before Indian.
18:54
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's just every year.
18:56
[SPEAKER_03]: It does not let you down.
18:58
[SPEAKER_03]: there is just tremendous racing.
19:01
[SPEAKER_03]: There was 300 some passes and one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is just unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I intended to try to go this year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Next year, I'm marking that on my calendar, whenever it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, trip, I'm gonna go broke trip.
19:15
[SPEAKER_03]: It is just, I've been to the venue a long time ago, but man, it always provides a great race.
19:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, it does, and by the way,
19:30
[SPEAKER_04]: They had that racetrack was around before the assembly line was around.
19:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
19:35
[SPEAKER_04]: That's me.
19:37
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's older than I am.
19:39
[SPEAKER_01]: That's barely.
19:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's give them a walk in the indie car, some kudos up there.
19:45
[SPEAKER_01]: The weather presented quite a challenge for them over the weekend, and I know it had to seem strange to finish your race one after you ran race two, but I thought every decision they made was the right one to get the best racing product in the
20:03
[SPEAKER_04]: In the car's been known to blow it, and they really didn't this weekend, they handle it as well as they could.
20:10
[SPEAKER_04]: So.
20:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, part of that too, I'm still gonna give credit a little bit there to Fox, Fox did a great job of a better partner.
20:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, so.
20:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it is a tremendous partner.
20:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe she sucked.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It did, it did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I will say, okay, back to ECR, just to put this on there for a second.
20:32
[SPEAKER_03]: They have great commercials.
20:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we need more of that in the indie car, sir.
20:38
[SPEAKER_04]: I really think when NASCAR reached its biggest is when they had the stars who were making commercials and everybody knew who they were.
20:46
[SPEAKER_04]: That to me is why NASCAR took off and IndyCar didn't.
20:50
[SPEAKER_04]: It's because of those kinds of things and IndyCar's been so bad at that.
20:55
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a different personality of Indy car racer now, though, and I think we've talked about that in the past.
21:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I think in the past guys were like, kind of enemies.
21:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Now they all, yeah, they get ticked off at each other, but they all get along really well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They kind of even like each other, and they definitely respect each other.
21:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought the racing itself was very clean for both racists.
21:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks everybody for joining.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Be sure to join us later this week as we preview the final race of the indie car season this weekend at an indie car classic Laguna Saka.
21:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Can't wait to see indie cars for the final time this year as sad as it is, but wrapping up a great 2026 season.
21:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah and we will talk about all the latest news as well because we know there's been a lot of news happening and we haven't really had a chance to talk about much of it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Guys, did you see the list of most second place winners without winning an indie car race?
22:15
[SPEAKER_04]: I couldn't believe Rose John.
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[SPEAKER_04]: At eight second place finish now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did not know that.
22:22
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the product of the series.
22:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Like four years, right?
22:28
[SPEAKER_04]: And, man, that guy's good.
22:29
[SPEAKER_04]: That list was interesting.
22:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Of most second places.
22:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Vitor Mera was a, and Grosha was six.
22:37
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what it was.
22:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Vitor Mera, the most second place finishes including an ND500 without winning an ND car race.
22:46
[SPEAKER_04]: You remember Vitor Mera?
22:48
[SPEAKER_04]: I do.
22:49
[SPEAKER_04]: I do.
22:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't picture him, but I remember the name.
22:53
[SPEAKER_04]: I barely remember him.
22:55
[SPEAKER_04]: I remember Dan Weld and passed him to win the 500 and 2004 and that was about, yeah, way back.
23:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Dan a compatriot led for a little while.
23:08
[SPEAKER_04]: We tore Mara, a pacestanica who was running low on fuel and then Weld and passed both of them to win.
23:17
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Weld and being in the 2500 champion would be, is probably a better thing than
23:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you're spot-on, the light only was ever really a full-time driver.
23:29
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he was mostly a one-off guy.
23:32
[SPEAKER_04]: I could be wrong about that.
23:35
[SPEAKER_04]: But I thought that was an interesting thing.
23:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, even though this is the end of the honor, very much longer.
23:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm hoping Grojan and Dennis Hauger, as much as I think Dennis Hauger is going to eventually be on a bigger team.
23:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I think another year of that same combo at Delco and Racing would be a pretty beneficial thing for that team.
23:53
[SPEAKER_02]: They've had some good results sprinkled in here and there and we know they are kind of against the A-ball budget wise, so I think if they can just turn that program and slowly build and build, because I think Delcoin racing as much as that is the smaller team in the sport.
24:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you look at their history, they are an absolute indie car staple.
24:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, real quick, this is Mrs. Rambana's time, the odds that for Ruchi still drives for four
24:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's one of the things I forgot about later this week, but yeah, that's interesting.
24:27
[SPEAKER_03]: See what happens there.
24:29
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be interesting, but I think I'd be surprised if they moved fruit you out of that.
24:35
[SPEAKER_03]: But I've been surprised before.
24:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the pretty disheartened with his results this year.
24:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, he's led a few laps, but he's never really looked like he's had the doctor.
24:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, except in the end, but that was kind of more along the lines that qualified an early in the race.
24:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think that that's going to be interesting.
25:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Especially with all the talented young drivers that are out there, some of them that carry great racing names like Schumacher, that looking to push their way in.
25:09
[SPEAKER_04]: And how about we're going to all, all ready?
25:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, sure, yeah.
25:13
[SPEAKER_04]: We know he's going to be an enemy with void right.
25:15
[SPEAKER_04]: So
25:17
[SPEAKER_04]: In the next, it's got some guys just chomping at the bit, and you're pretty talented, including a fit of Paul D. Yeah, so, yes.
25:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was the one I was talking about a former, you know, kind of like that champion that's got the name and the pedigree, like kind of like a shoe mucker to, you know, he's going to get up there sooner than later just because of that name.
25:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, and he's been a name for a long time that everybody knows, I mean, he's been encarting and everybody knows who he is, but not Brazilian, I said we need Brazilian drivers and those definitely not Brazilian, got a Brazilian background, but it's definitely American.
26:08
[SPEAKER_04]: That's it?
26:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Anybody else have any of them then?
26:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
26:10
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, let's see it in the bonus time.
26:13
[SPEAKER_04]: You get more of the bonus time.
26:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was just so good.
26:18
[SPEAKER_04]: That was just so good.
26:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Every race has been amazing, Dave.
26:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Every, we're almost every race.
26:24
[SPEAKER_04]: We had a couple of race.
26:25
[SPEAKER_04]: We're let down, including one that was a let down kind of because of the rain.
26:30
[SPEAKER_04]: But pretty much, every race has been intertained as can be.
26:35
[SPEAKER_04]: I've always been an indie car fan since the A.B.'
26:39
[SPEAKER_04]: 's never in my life has it held my attention every lap of every race until the last couple of years.
26:52
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's, that's, it hasn't any car is when it's any car itself, no, I've not been this entertained since for at least 30 years.
27:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, as I have been this year.
27:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah.
27:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Going back to Win Mario and Michael and Al and Big Al and the rest of the story line.
27:15
[SPEAKER_04]: There was a storyline every weekend.
27:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
27:18
[SPEAKER_04]: But since then, since the split and even before the split, honestly, but since the split and particular, this is the best it's been.
27:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Roger Pinsky's done amazing job.
27:31
[SPEAKER_03]: He has, he has his owner of the track.
27:35
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how much of that.
27:36
[SPEAKER_03]: His team is falling off, but how much is out his hand.
27:41
[SPEAKER_03]: And maybe not being able to devote as much time.
27:43
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
27:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, but do you know what, Pinsky gets credit for putting out the money and making sure they had a race in DC this year for the Freedom 250.
27:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Roger Pinsky, hats off, deserved.
27:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just trying to credit for that.
27:58
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so happy he cares way more about the series than he does, just his own team.
28:03
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's obvious.
28:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Well said, that is well said.
28:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And credit to Fox as well buying a third of the stake in IndyCar as much as Will Buxing can get all my nerves from some times.
28:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you know you look at the production you know NBC races a couple years ago We were watching them on USA today network and peacock.
28:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean we're on network television every single weekend and big Fox as well.
28:28
[SPEAKER_02]: You know even though that race yesterday was on FS1 it was due to scheduling conflicts or you know what more people probably have as FS1 and peacock.
28:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, although the first that first race they ran yesterday, the second race they ran first was actually on Fox That's where I watched Yeah, Fox 59 so yeah, they made that work and the crowd was good if you love it It was good and there was a good crowd there at Milwaukee.
28:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Those are huge bleachers after they read did that Yes, so yeah, that was a nice crowd especially for the situation Yes, I
29:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, a lot of fun.
29:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks guys, this has been a lot of fun.
29:08
[SPEAKER_04]: I love talking in the car.
29:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
29:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I hate it the next weekend's final weekend.
29:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm proud to see you.
29:14
[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to have to keep doing this as there's any car news because I miss it when the season goes.
29:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we will have sometimes where we can come back to any car in the middle of October or November and just talk, especially with all the seat hopping that's going on, that will take place.
29:39
[SPEAKER_03]: It's still interesting.
29:41
[SPEAKER_03]: It is still interesting.
29:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Lots of facilities.
29:44
[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
29:46
[SPEAKER_04]: going to be although it it happened a lot of it happened earlier that the this year than the usual.
29:53
[SPEAKER_04]: The silly season there.
29:54
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but a lot of that spirit that is very true.
29:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It is going to that is very true.
30:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I
30:02
[SPEAKER_01]: No, myself, I'm kind of, and I'm intrigued to see what Dixon does at Arrow.
30:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I really think it's more for him helping with the new car and getting everything ready for that.
30:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't mean it harshly because he is a lot younger than I am, but father time catches all the great works.
30:31
[SPEAKER_03]: other time always wins.
30:33
[SPEAKER_03]: And he falls.
30:34
[SPEAKER_03]: We fought their time really well, too.
30:36
[SPEAKER_03]: He really did.
30:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
30:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
30:38
[SPEAKER_03]: And when we talked about Mount Rushmore of race drivers, that's right.
30:42
[SPEAKER_03]: It's gotta be in consideration.
30:43
[SPEAKER_03]: No doubt.
30:44
[SPEAKER_03]: He's in the top five.
30:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Tell you.
30:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'll tell you somebody else that we should talk about in that regard, and I'm reading a book about him right now is Bill Vookovich.
30:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh.
30:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
30:58
[SPEAKER_04]: He was one of the ones I mentioned when we mentioned Rushmore that we know that the top two, everybody knows the top two.
31:07
[SPEAKER_04]: The last two spots are up for grabs and Bill Vookovich is without question one of those.
31:13
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll power.
31:14
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll power had a great week out of the way until he stuck his toe.
31:18
[SPEAKER_01]: He's pretty well.
31:20
[SPEAKER_03]: He has been strong and spinning through the.
31:24
[SPEAKER_03]: He's trying to get there.
31:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Steating through the pits was a major.
31:29
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he had a shot at that race.
31:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, he did.
31:33
[SPEAKER_03]: I would be surprised if Android is a powerhouse.
31:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks, sure.
31:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I really wouldn't.
31:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think Marcus Aeroson was just going to say.
31:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
31:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Marcus Aeroson is awesome.
31:42
[SPEAKER_02]: We know how good Kyle Kirkwood is.
31:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, what does a year of help of Will Powers expertise and knowledge do to an injury team?
31:51
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think you can do a lot.
31:53
[SPEAKER_04]: It's amazing because Michael and Dreddy probably belong up on that.
31:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Mount Rushmore, but you don't run the 500 and it doesn't matter.
32:02
[SPEAKER_04]: It just doesn't matter if you do not.
32:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Scott Dixon absolutely belongs in there with the staff, but he's got one.
32:08
[SPEAKER_04]: So there's a little bit of question.
32:10
[SPEAKER_04]: There's no question with Mario, because he won Daytona in Monaco, and every thing that there was to win.
32:16
[SPEAKER_04]: So there's no, even though he only won 1,500, there's no question about Mario.
32:22
[SPEAKER_04]: It does change things, and actually Michelle brought up Pastor Nevis, because he belonged on the list, and he won 4,500, so he's obviously Rick Mears, and else, Elements are seeing your belong near that list, too.
32:35
[SPEAKER_04]: They just don't quite have the overall resume that the others have.
32:39
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think in October we should go one through ten.
32:44
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
32:45
[SPEAKER_03]: And rank them one through ten all time.
32:49
[SPEAKER_03]: And, uh,
32:50
[SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna have some disagreements between us four.
32:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, but at least four of them are still driving the day Yeah, I'd say there's a different Mount Rushmore for any car.
33:00
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a Mount Rushmore of drivers at the any 500 and there's a Mount Rushmore No, our question.
33:06
[SPEAKER_03]: No, yeah, yeah, yeah, well said.
33:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes Because we're gonna have those with a long on that in the 500 Yes
33:16
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, well let's do that.
33:18
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't wait.
33:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Anytime we're talking to history, I love it.
33:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Doesn't forward to it.
33:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks, Michelle, thanks Dave, thanks Elijah as always, thank you for listening.
33:33
[SPEAKER_04]: If you're still here, you were in it for the long haul.
33:38
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33:43
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33:53
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