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"How do You Know If the West is Worth Saving?" (Wednesday October 15, 2025, Hour 3) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Fiant.
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  and I've really reconsidered it ever since Disney took it over.
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  But there are things on there I kind of like,
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  so I'm stuck. But my son was telling me this Hulu,
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  this Apple Plus show on Mussolini. Have you watched any
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  of it? Because he tells me. He says, they.
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  Speaker 5: Actually used and I saw it.
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  Speaker 21: There was a time.
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  Speaker 5: That's it.
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  Speaker 6: So as.
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  Speaker 4: Western civilization moves out into Europe, and I was reading
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  some highlights, apologies, I haven't had a chance to delve
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  into a lot of it, obviously not out yet, but
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  what I've been able to get through. One of the
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  things that pops out in your book is how this
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  becomes very popular in Europe as it expands that way
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  is it? And I don't know if it was even
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  conceptually a thing at the time, professor, but as you
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  get into Europe and again very agrarian, very hierarchical lords, ladies,
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  you know, the tenant farmers. The idea of the protecting.
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  One of the essences I know of Western civilization is
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  the idea that the minority voice gets protected, the republicanism
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  of of of Western civilization, is that one of the
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  things that really almost took Europe by storm by you know,
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  the most guys on my team, I still get heard.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, well, it's it's one of the remarkable things about
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  the Western tradition that has these has these recessive genes
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  and dominant genes, we could call them that. It's intellectual life. So,
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  out out of the pen and it's renewed by the
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  believe in taking care of the poor, something the Greeks
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  didn't care very much about Franklin, nor the Romans, but
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  the Christians brought that into their into their way of thinking.
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  An example I like to use of how the Republican
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  tradition gets preserved is the twelfth century, which is not
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  the most familiar people. But after the fall of the
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  Roman republic in you know, before the time of Caesar,
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  the Romans ended up having a monarchy for basically almost
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  a thousand years. So there's there are no republics in
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  the Western world between the time of Augustus and the
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  twelfth century. But you know, at a moment of weakness
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  very weak moment for monarchy in Europe. Suddenly all these
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  cities in northern Italy and central Italy started becoming republics.
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  And they had they had two consuls, and they had
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  a senate, and they had an assembly. So you have
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  to ask yourself where did they get that from? How
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  did they know? They knew exactly how how the Roman
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  Republic was run. They knew the names, had the names
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  of all the same magistrates. And the reason is that
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  they had the Golden Thread. The book is called, by
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  the way, the Golden Thread History of the Western Tradition.
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  They had, you know, in their literary tradition, all of
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  these books which described the Roman Republic, know Livy and Salas,
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  these are canonical works. So they were beating canonical works.
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  And also they had works they knew about the Athenian democracy.
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  They knew about all sorts of history which preserved for
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  them the knowledge of the republic. So suddenly, after a
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  thousand years, republics reappear in the West.
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  Speaker 4: And it gives us hope too, especially as we sit
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  here wondering about teetering. But the importance of reading, being
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  able to read. So I asked the professor, I said,
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  I remember the story of the City States and all
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  of that from high school. And I was in New
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  York City, of all things, and during bankruptcy, we had
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  no money at forty kids in the classroom, yet we
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  were still learning this, And I said, why is that?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I agree entirely, that is exactly what's happening. We
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  stopped teaching Western civilization two generations to go in the
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  late eighties. And it used to be required in state
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  guidance about under high school education used to be required many,
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  if not most colleges before the nineteen eighties. And then
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  suddenly that generation just decided that it wasn't going to
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  teach that anywhere, going to teach global history or not history.
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  So we have had two generations that know absolutely nothing
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  about the West. And I see this every day. I
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  was supposed to have the best students in the country
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  at Harvard, and I see students who really know nothing
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  at all about not only the Founding bothers, but even
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  the Reformation, they don't know anything about the Greeks and
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  the Romans, or the Enlightenment or anything. You would hope
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  that they would know. You know, I once had it.
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  This is always stuck in my mind. When I was
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  the head of the undergraduate program in history in the
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  nineteen nineties, I had this guy who was up for
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  a summer cumb Louday degree from Harvard in American history
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  who could not tell me what century the American Revolution
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  occurred in because he had done nothing but nineteen twenties America, right, said,
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  they don't have this kind of foundation that they that
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  they used to have, and this is what we're trying
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  to bring back. You know, we're in, I'm sorry to say,
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  a class of civilizations, and we have civilizations that don't
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  wish us well, like the Muslim civilization. Well, I shouldn't
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  say the civilized people of the Muslim world do wish
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  as well, I think, but there are rivalries among the civilizations,
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  and we are basically have just we have basically disarmed
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  ourselves from that class of civilizations. Because I assure you
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  I've been to China many many times. I assure you
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  the Chinese are studying their civilization.
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  Speaker 4: Now and and and that's you know, especially the Maoist paradigm.
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  But Professor Hankin if you if you can pick up
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  Freedom and Prosperity Radio, the show I do for the
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  Virginia Institute this weekend, it is worth it. We spend
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  the whole hour together talking about Western civilization and the
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  Speaker 4: It is time open Mac McDonald's notebook. He's in the room,
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  A man that thinks that Western civilization is what they
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  call the PAC twelve. Now, good morning, Mac. What's going on, sir?
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  Speaker 28: Well, with everything going on, just this little baseball nugget
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  for you. Second time in Major League Baseball history that
• 28:41
  in both Championships series the visiting teams took a two
• 28:45
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  Speaker 8: So there you go. That's you.
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  Speaker 5: That's your nugget.
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  Speaker 8: While leading snow Cones in July.
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  Speaker 5: Well that happened, you know.
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  Speaker 4: No, it was the World Series in twenty nineteen when
• 28:54
  the Nationals won because it was the road team that
• 28:57
  won all the games in that Houston won the right
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  three games in DC.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Sure.
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  Speaker 28: Well, so the Penn State chatter continues. And by the way,
• 29:10
  their three and three start was the worst six games
• 29:14
  start by a preseason AP Top two team since nineteen
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  sixty four. Wow, okay, I always try to bring something
• 29:20
  to the table. As I was just telling Joe during
• 29:22
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• 29:25
  just starting a maybe it's Wednesday is a good day,
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  the middle of the week, just for Joe, you know.
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  So it's over your coffee, but it's also for Joe
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  Thomas all right. The odds have been released for the
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  next football coach at Penn State. Nebraska's Matt Rule is
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  the leader in the clubhouse. He played linebacker at Penn
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  State from ninety four to ninety seven. He lived in
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  state college and during high school, he also coached at
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  Temple and Philly.
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  Speaker 8: He knows the area, but Matt Rule has.
• 29:50
  Speaker 28: Been upfront and one of the few coaches who at
• 29:53
  his press conference this week said, look, I like James Franklin,
• 29:57
  but I'm trying to build things here with Troy Dan
• 30:00
  in my Nebraska ad. He goes, I understand, but I'm
• 30:04
  not going to talk contract.
• 30:06
  Speaker 29: I wanted to rebuild Nebraska football, and you know, Troy,
• 30:09
  and I understand the steps that you need to take
• 30:11
  to make us Big Ten champions and national champions. This
• 30:13
  this place is elite, and I want to be a
• 30:16
  great father, and I want to be a great college
• 30:17
  football coach. So I'm not going to talk a lot
• 30:19
  about job openings when they come. Maybe it's been a
• 30:21
  while here, but this is what happens when you win.
• 30:23
  I've dealt with it, you know, We've won a temple
• 30:25
  and I dealt with it all the time, delt with Baylor.
• 30:26
  I'm not going to talk about those things ever. I'm
• 30:28
  not going to talk about my contract here. I'm going
• 30:29
  to talk about the team. But yeah, I absolutely love
• 30:32
  it here.
• 30:32
  Speaker 8: Well.
• 30:32
  Speaker 28: Yeah, and writers are still going to investigate and they're
• 30:34
  still trying to because everybody's trying to get, you know,
• 30:36
  the breaking news. And that's why you know where we are.
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  Nebraska's Matt Ruled is a three to one favorite. Bill
• 30:41
  O'Brien from Boston College who just hasn't gotten the resources
• 30:44
  he's at four to one. O'Brien coached at Penn State
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  twenty twelve and twenty thirteen.
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: He would be what they call him coaching a retread.
• 30:52
  Speaker 28: Kurt Signetti six to one is not going to talk
• 30:54
  about Lane Kiffin.
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  Speaker 8: Come on, Mian Kiffin had a great line in his
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  press compency.
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  Speaker 28: Some some writer asked Lane Kiffin in the press conference,
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  have you ever been a clocked at how many calories
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  you burned during a game. You and Kirby smarter or
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  pretty you know guys who really burn a lot of calories.
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  And Lane Kiffin said, well, I just watched Kirby's press
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  conference on the TV on my way in here, says
• 31:19
  doesn't look like Kirby's burning any calories at all.
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: Now he takes a little shot. I love it.
• 31:23
  Speaker 28: Sec you know, Lane Kiffin, at least you know he's
• 31:26
  got up all right. So with all that being said,
• 31:29
  as we head into this new era, there is a
• 31:32
  just I don't want to use that.
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: It's not an outcry, just all kinds of people.
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  Speaker 5: Want to know why, you know.
• 31:39
  Speaker 28: In other words, when Virginia Tech announced that with Babcock
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  in the committee, including our own Bud Foster, who I
• 31:44
  get a chance to talk to today, signed non disclosure agreements,
• 31:48
  they acted like, oh my god, Virginia Tech, back up, yo, WHOA,
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  let's like the fire, sit around with some popcorn.
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: I'll explain it to you. Nds.
• 31:59
  Speaker 28: In college athletics and not really, all sports and all
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  business basically are common high profile hirings, ads, head coaching searches,
• 32:08
  guys of you know, of fortune five hundred companies that
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  Speaker 8: They non DA's.
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  Speaker 28: It's you know, it means never discuss anything. You know,
• 32:17
  it's not really a non disclosure agreement.
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  Speaker 8: It's like, okay, you know, shut up.
• 32:22
  Speaker 28: So you're eating a sandwich at a subway and a
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  guy comes up and goes, hey, I'm interested in your job,
• 32:29
  and you know you're trying to ask all these questions.
• 32:31
  Next thing, you know, you steal all this information. Well, So,
• 32:35
  the NDAs are common among in college athletics gambling and
• 32:39
  betting concerns too. Some athletic programs are implementing NDAs now
• 32:43
  for coaches and staff, and also with.
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: The name, Image and Likeness deals.
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  Speaker 28: NDAs are frequently included in the nil contracts.
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  Speaker 8: In other words, kids, you're not supposed talking, but.
• 32:52
  Speaker 28: If you do, you're gone upset the whole locker room.
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  Speaker 4: Can you imagine trying to explain a non disclosure agreement
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  to it an eighteen year old wide receiver?
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  Speaker 8: Old, okay, you're ready to sign it? Yeah, you're you mean?
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  Speaker 28: You mean I can't tell anybody I'm getting two million.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: No, you can't tweet?
• 33:08
  Speaker 28: No, you know, competitive advantages in cases like nil NDA's
• 33:14
  keep compensation details private from rival programs too.
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: That's the other thing.
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  Speaker 28: You got a Progate Georgia, University of Georgia wants a
• 33:20
  guy ole Miss is going since I'm talking about Kirby
• 33:23
  and Lane, you know they go, well, they're paying me. No,
• 33:25
  if you have an NDA, you can't tell what ole
• 33:28
  Miss is doing and what they're doing for you. So
• 33:31
  don't get all like, oh my god. Now today before
• 33:35
  I record, we're gonna record Foster and Friends today. Okay,
• 33:39
  we're doing this whole thing on Franklin and coaches and NDAs.
• 33:42
  I'm gonna I have to ask Bud before we start
• 33:45
  recording today, how far can we go? And Bud we'll
• 33:50
  Bud will say not far. We're not gonna be able
• 33:53
  to say very much. But that's that's just the nature
• 33:58
  of where we are. So earlier this week, Kirk Herbstreet
• 34:02
  and he does his show with Joey Galloway. Joey Galloway
• 34:04
  was a former pro really good receiver and actually pretty smart,
• 34:09
  one of the football insiders. So anyway, they got to
• 34:12
  talking about the new norm. Well, you know, this is
• 34:14
  the question we've been asking for a long time. One
• 34:17
  of the most respected in the business, Kirk kirk Street.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: They had a big win and they kind of righted
• 34:22
  the ship in a way. They go off and let's
• 34:24
  say they finished nine to three or ten to two.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: Is that the worst?
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Is that like going oh in a twelve? I mean
• 34:30
  it just makes me wonder in this new era of
• 34:33
  nil and transfer portal and expectations and I don't know,
• 34:39
  is this our new norm?
• 34:40
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: Well it is. And so just picture this.
• 34:44
  Speaker 28: Let's hypothetically, you know, that's a great word because you
• 34:47
  get the makeup stuff. Let's say that at the University
• 34:50
  of Virginia, which is in our backyard, and that Tony
• 34:52
  Elliott has a great year this year, gets to the
• 34:55
  a SEC Championship game, and you know, then next year
• 34:59
  goes you know, nine and three, you know, or and
• 35:03
  then the following year the team starts one in three.
• 35:07
  Speaker 8: Is there going to be an.
• 35:08
  Speaker 28: Outcry for Tony Elliott, Oh my god, you've had too
• 35:10
  great at the University of you know? Is that where
• 35:12
  we are now? And then the answer would probably be yes.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, ask any major League Baseball manager exactly.
• 35:20
  Speaker 28: So what UVA did and people need to understand this
• 35:23
  that other schools have done that this is not new
• 35:26
  across the country. But what UVA did was not only
• 35:30
  bomb the portal and go in and just say whoa
• 35:33
  where Dabosweeney has not at Clemson. But they you know,
• 35:36
  fifty I've said in a million times, fifty four new players,
• 35:40
  all right, some thirty guys in the portal and some
• 35:43
  thirty million they put on the table to build this team. Oh,
• 35:46
  is there any surprise that Virginia is in the top twenty? Now?
• 35:50
  Any surprise that the rest of their schedule and this
• 35:52
  is a team that could go ten and two, maybe
• 35:55
  eleven and one, you know, but it's no surprise because
• 35:59
  that that's where we are. Other schools have to get
• 36:03
  on board. It's the new norm. You're right, and this
• 36:06
  is where we are. And there's a lot of money
• 36:08
  at stake, and so that's that's where we are. Well,
• 36:12
  it's you to spend money to make money.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: You know, the TV side of it. You've been a
• 36:17
  TV broadcaster in the aces. He I mean, it's about
• 36:20
  the product. I mean, you know it was when when
• 36:25
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• 36:28
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• 36:31
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• 36:35
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• 36:38
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• 36:40
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• 36:43
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• 36:49
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• 36:52
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• 36:55
  Speaker 4: Here's here's the peril, and we only have a minute left.
• 36:57
  So I'm going to make this quick. Because I lived
• 37:00
  in State College and I broadcasted in State College, and
• 37:02
  right and I participated in the Second Mile.
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: It was the thing you did, you know?
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: It was like a mac McDonald charity golf climate that
• 37:10
  Jerry Sandusky had this golf in this camp and we
• 37:14
  know the controversy. The only reason it came to light
• 37:18
  was that Penn State was so buttoned down on things
• 37:20
  like Joe Paterno's salary.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: That it got all the reporters so.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: Bent out of shape that they went digging and digging
• 37:27
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• 37:29
  of Joe Paterno's salary, they said, oh my god, what
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  Speaker 5: He's a state employee, So I.
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• 44:55
  Speaker 4: So liver cancer not to be confused with a their
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  liver disease is cirrhosis, that kind of thing. But are
• 45:02
  there intertwinings. Does driving your liver too hard, you know,
• 45:08
  create a greater propensity for cancer there?
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  Speaker 32: Yeah, it absolutely does. It's a great question. So liver
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  cancer are the primary form of liver cancer, which is
• 45:21
  called hepatocellular carcinoma. It actually arises from chronic liver inflammation,
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  so chronic liver disease that can include cirrhosis, hepatitis, infections, smoking,
• 45:34
  heavy alcohol use, unhealthy diet, all of these different things
• 45:38
  can cause our liver to become inflamed and eventually lead to, unfortunately,
• 45:42
  a cancer.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: The media is, it's not overrun with it. There's still
• 45:48
  plenty of you know, flow from progressive ads taking up time.
• 45:51
  But I see an awful lot of ads for these
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  liver I can't even call them cleanses, but they look
• 45:59
  like these things. Guys like, you know, I enjoy a
• 46:01
  good Friday night and then goes on to say that
• 46:06
  he's not giving up enjoying a good Friday night. I
• 46:08
  guess you're supposed to infer what that means. But I
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  take this new liver ease or whatever the product is,
• 46:15
  and they sound supplemental in this kind of thing?
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: Are those good? Bad?
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: Indifferent? What do you know about those? Is there? Is
• 46:23
  there something to be concerned about? Because every time I
• 46:25
  see one of those ads, I'm like, ah, I get
• 46:28
  where this is going. This is on in a college
• 46:31
  town on television. I can't imagine why they're targeting this audience.
• 46:35
  What do you know about that kind of stuff?
• 46:38
  Speaker 32: Yeah, I mean, liver cancer comes from chronic problems, so
• 46:43
  inflammation that's been going on for years and years. It's
• 46:46
  not usually from one night of heavy drinking. It's usually
• 46:50
  years of heavy drinking or having a hepatitis infection that
• 46:53
  hasn't been treated, things that are going to cause issues
• 46:56
  over a long period of time.
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: Well, the reason I brought those type of things, Oh yeah.
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: Just the reason I brought up is it seems like
• 47:03
  they're targeting people who are heavy drinkers without saying we're
• 47:07
  targeting people who are heavy drinkers in an effort to
• 47:11
  try to say this will fix your problems. But it
• 47:14
  doesn't sound like, you know, just taking a herbal supplement
• 47:17
  to cleanse your liver is going to do that.
• 47:21
  Speaker 32: I agree, taking a supplement just to cleanse your liver
• 47:26
  is not going to change the damage that's been done
• 47:28
  from years and years of either heavy alcohol use or
• 47:32
  chronic infections. Before doing anything like that, I always recommend
• 47:36
  that people talk to their primary care doctor. The best
• 47:39
  kind of prevention for a lot of cancers is to
• 47:42
  see your doctor every year and talk to them about
• 47:45
  your lifestyle, and then when there are red flags, they
• 47:48
  can kind of make decisions on what additional tests you
• 47:51
  might need.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: You know, it is aside from these, you know, made
• 47:55
  for TV spots. I mean there are people who'd go
• 47:58
  on month long liver CLIs lenses and things like that.
• 48:01
  Is that as a maintenance protocol not a bad idea
• 48:06
  to do a cleanse, you know, even a week long
• 48:09
  cleanse for your liver or does that do anything?
• 48:14
  Speaker 32: I don't think it makes a huge difference, to be honest,
• 48:16
  because it's usually these issues are happening over years, so
• 48:22
  it's better to just kind of live a healthy lifestyle
• 48:25
  every day. There's nothing wrong with doing cleanses, but it
• 48:29
  doesn't change your overall health necessarily.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Now, now, my wife's grandmother passed away from cirrhosis of
• 48:38
  the liver, and she had taken the temper you know,
• 48:41
  she took the temperancepledge, never touched a drop of alcohol.
• 48:44
  So there are other ways to give yourself, you know,
• 48:47
  these kind of liver issues than just you know, heavy drinking.
• 48:50
  But you talked about hepatitis other things. But nutritionally, we
• 48:55
  can beat up our liver pretty badly even if we
• 48:57
  don't touch any alcohol.
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: Correct.
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  Speaker 32: Yeah, that's called it used to be called fatty liver disease.
• 49:05
  It's now called MASH, which is stands for metabolic associated
• 49:10
  hadoepatitis epiptosis, which is basically that being overweight, having an
• 49:16
  unhealthy diet. These things can all contribute to fat accumulating
• 49:20
  in the liver and this can lead to that same inflammation,
• 49:23
  just like alcohol or hepatitis or smoking, and so it's
• 49:27
  the same underlying process. It's just a different way that
• 49:30
  the liver gets injured.
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: So, you know, you mentioned inflammation several times. Inflammation is
• 49:38
  one of those undercurrents and so many things that are wrong,
• 49:41
  whether it's you know, the plaque build up in your arteries, Alzheimer's.
• 49:45
  We're seeing your inflammation show up in some of these places.
• 49:49
  So what is a good way to avoid inflaming? Is
• 49:53
  there a good diet is the Is there recommendations for
• 49:59
  a life style that keeps you from inflaming your liver?
• 50:04
  Speaker 32: Yeah, I mean I think there's there's many recommendations. I
• 50:08
  think the overarching idea is to you know, avoiding a
• 50:14
  heavy red meat diet, you know, eating vegetables, having fruit,
• 50:19
  basically following the general guidelines of what a healthy diet is.
• 50:24
  And it's not something specific that you need to avoid,
• 50:26
  it's just everything in moderation. It doesn't mean you can't
• 50:29
  ever have a steak. It just means doing things in moderation.
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: Sure, no, And I think that's the point.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm I'm vegetarian and I could lose a
• 50:38
  few pounds because my wife makes really good food, so
• 50:41
  I eat too much of it. So, you know, moderation
• 50:43
  is something even even vegetarians need to think about. Doctor rough,
• 50:49
  you know it is. So you just said regular visits
• 50:52
  to your doctor and checkups and things like that is
• 50:56
  a way to stay ahead of it. Are there feelings?
• 50:58
  Are there things that happen and do you bloating anything
• 51:01
  like that that could be a warning flag.
• 51:05
  Speaker 32: Yeah, liver cancer has kind of vague symptoms of dominal pain,
• 51:10
  nause of vomiting, weight loss that you're not trying to lose,
• 51:17
  and then you know, every once in a while, sometimes
• 51:19
  with certain types of liver cancers, people can become what's
• 51:22
  called jaundice, where you might see yellowing of the eyes
• 51:25
  or the skin. You might have pale stools rather than
• 51:29
  the mean brown. All of these things can point towards
• 51:32
  a problem.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: Okay, but you should be visiting your doctor regularly at
• 51:37
  any event, not waiting until something like that happens, because
• 51:40
  often that's too late, isn't it.
• 51:44
  Speaker 32: Yeah, I mean for especially for liver cancer, when we
• 51:48
  know that there are risk factors like hepatitis or heavy
• 51:51
  alcohol use or unhealthy diet. You know, your primary care
• 51:54
  doctor will check labs once a year and if any
• 51:56
  of those labs look concerning liver disease, then there are
• 52:02
  screening guidelines that we have for people that we know
• 52:05
  have liver disease, getting ultrasounds and regular imaging to just
• 52:08
  monitor the liver because it's often hard to know that
• 52:11
  there is a liver tumor until it's larger, and so
• 52:15
  it's something that seeing your regular doctor can just try
• 52:18
  to stay ahead of.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: Well, doctor hop thank you so much. Great adjunct with
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  Speaker 32: Thank you, Thank you for having me.
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