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- 0:15Hey, everybody, what's happening? It is time for three Guys before the
- 0:20Game. Our summer series continues with one of the toughest pound for pound Mountaineers
- 0:30to ever put on. Ever, the basketball suit maybe tougher than some football
- 0:35players. Oh, absolutely could have been a football player could guard. You
- 0:41know, there are certain people. There are certain people that move away from
- 0:47contact. There are others that seek contact. Our boy, he sought contact.
- 0:55He was a face in the fan guy. We'd like to say something.
- 0:59Yeah, which Riga Triffens cam Thuraman, former Mountaineer basketball player, is
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- 4:32affiliation news. No, we don't. It's like tomorrow is breaking up.
- 4:39It's coming, It's going chill out. Our summer series guest Arizona is cam
- 4:45Thurrowman, native of Portsmith, Ohio, six feet seven inches tall, two
- 4:51hundred and thirty five pounds. When he played for the Old Golden Blue.
- 4:56He has gone been gone now for twelve years. Wow. Believe last season
- 5:01was twenty eleven, so obviously he was a member of the final four team
- 5:08recruited to West Virginia by John Beeline played for Bob Huggins and has now gone
- 5:15on and really successful in the business world, which is one of the reasons
- 5:18why I wanted to bring him on here as well. But please, welcome
- 5:21to the program, the one and only cam Thurman close. Sir, how
- 5:26are you hey, guys? How are you nice to have you with us?
- 5:31Pretty good? I gotta I gotta ask, did my wife put you
- 5:35up to some of these advertisements? She's been asking for probably the better part
- 5:41of a year now for a camper. So now I don't know if I'm
- 5:44gonna be able to tell her that I'm on this show or not, because
- 5:46she's going to be getting me up for one of these campers. Well,
- 5:47what's your what's your wife's first name? Rebecca? She goes by Becca.
- 5:53So you tell old Becca, not only can we get her that camper,
- 5:58travel trailer, whatever you want, we're gonna put it. We're gonna put
- 6:00a hitch on that bad boy. We're gonna go double put a put a
- 6:03pontoon. So it's gonna be pickup trush, pickup truck, right yeah,
- 6:08pickup truck will haul the trailer and then behind that we'll put the we'll put
- 6:11the pontoon boat. They're going to Thuramins. He's gonna need dual axel.
- 6:15Ye need dual axel for that. Absolutely we can help you outcam just step
- 6:19aside, have back of Collis will hook her up. Yeah. And when
- 6:21you need when you need fuel, I mean, when you need fuel,
- 6:25you go to Gomart of course. And then obviously, such a big high
- 6:28ranking business dude like you are doing all this HR stuff, you're gonna need
- 6:31data support and security, you go to Comax. And then of course when
- 6:35you when you figure the whole thing out, Um, we got it all
- 6:42covered for you, so right, So that's how it works. Yeah,
- 6:44you guys should have had me on here a long time ago. Yeah,
- 6:46I know, I know we should. So I said, six seven,
- 6:48two thirty five is what they listed you when you were a senior. You
- 6:53probably aren't any taller. I don't think you've started to shrink yet. But
- 6:56how much do you weigh today? Two seventies So you're a five man and
- 7:01no more even flirting with a four. That's good. Six seven two seven.
- 7:11You know what they call that? That's a man, that's a that's
- 7:15a that's a man. So hard lets let's jump in. We'll jump all
- 7:17over the place as per usual. But I think I've always followed your career
- 7:25ever since you left. You jumped right into the work world and have climbed
- 7:29the ladder. So you're in human resources for Marathon Petroleum. You've bounced around,
- 7:36walk us through your whole run here, You've been ware, oh,
- 7:42Tony, have been a little bit of everywhere. So I went to Marathon
- 7:44right out of college. I kind of knew early on that the NBA wasn't
- 7:47in my future, and I didn't really want to go overseas, so I
- 7:51got my msir master's degree before I left it. I went to Louisiana,
- 7:59then I went to Illinois. Then I went to our transportation logistics division for
- 8:05a couple of years. Then I went back to Louisiana. Then I went
- 8:07to Detroit, and then I went to Bismarck, North Dakota and spent three
- 8:13and a half years there. That's where my daughter was born during COVID,
- 8:16and probably about three months ago we relocated back to the corporate headquarters here in
- 8:20Sinley, Ohio. So now my parents are close, my brother's close,
- 8:26my sister's close, so we're close to family and we think we want to
- 8:31be here for a while. Ago. That's awesome. He's traveled more than
- 8:33Trey Mitchell. Yeah, let me tell you, old Cam wouldn't have been
- 8:39a portal guy. No Cam comes in, Cam stays put as far as
- 8:43that stuff goes. So, based on how your world works in the employment
- 8:48field, do you do you have you done enough moves to tell the company
- 8:50Okay, I'm I'm here now, I'm good. Do you think you can
- 8:54kind of put it down? Yeah, I mean there's always there's always that,
- 9:00there's always a potential for, you know, another couple opportunities. So
- 9:01we'll see where life takes this. We are kind of we've been kind of
- 9:05let's go where where life goes, and so at this point we've been kind
- 9:11of open to anything, and we may be a little bit more picky about
- 9:13where we go. Now. My son's and be in second grade. My
- 9:16daughter will be starting school here before too long, and we know the impacts
- 9:20that can have on a kid to move around and change schools and have to
- 9:24come up with new friends and things like that. So we'll take that into
- 9:28consideration with any move they come, you know, at us with among I
- 9:33counted five different places you've been. Among those five places, which one did
- 9:37you like? Which state did you like the most? Which did you like
- 9:39the least. That's tough, Tony. I mean, I think the one
- 9:43beautiful thing that I've realized about relocating and living in a bunch of different places
- 9:48is there's always a reason why people want to live there, no matter.
- 9:52You know, when you're in North Dakota, folks will be like, oh
- 9:54my gosh, I could not believe you lived in Louisiana. Hurricanes and heat
- 9:58and you know, go on, and the opposite's to be told. For
- 10:01North Dakota. It's like, oh my gosh, why would you ever move
- 10:05there? It's so cold, it's so far away. You know. It's
- 10:07like, Yeah, there's a special something about every place that we live that
- 10:09we've loved and that we've made it home at that time when we're there and
- 10:15we miss it. And so I don't know that I have a favorite,
- 10:18but I can tell you, if we ever had time to sit down,
- 10:20I can tell you all the good parts about each one. Yeah, let's
- 10:24all just real quick. It's a great answer is in your wheels he might
- 10:26be running for political office there, that might be one of the all time
- 10:28great answers for somebody that's moved a bunch and I don't you know what,
- 10:31I don't. I don't chalk that up as as political patronizing. That's justice.
- 10:35That's just a glass half full. Guy. Great answer, Yeah,
- 10:39very good answer. Yeah. I mean that's as good of an answers I've
- 10:41heard on that question. Yes, we're positive in all of this whole crew.
- 10:43Yeah. So your your title is human resource management, right, so
- 10:50like, get what what does that mean? Because we're we're I'm I'm just
- 10:54kind of myopic. I just like know one thing, Like you are an
- 10:56announcer, you are a sportscaster, So like, what does that mean?
- 11:01What do you do? Oh, Tody, I'm a jack of all trade.
- 11:03So it depends on which which organization you're in at that time, because
- 11:09HR can be a totally different thing. So let's just take my last goal
- 11:11for example, as an HR manager at our Man Dan and Dickinson North Dakota
- 11:16Refineries and so there you're a little bit of the you're the faith of the
- 11:20facility with the general manager out to the public. You know, you are
- 11:24doing the normal HR stuff on a daily basis. You're bringing people into the
- 11:26organization, there's people exiting the organization. You're doing, you know, your
- 11:31employee relations, You're managing the union contract or a labor free environment and trying
- 11:39to keep it that way. So it can be many different things. I
- 11:43think that's what I love about my job is I do get do a little
- 11:46bit different. I sit on the leadership team of that organization that I'm in.
- 11:50Currently, I'm in the what they call the terminals organization. So Marathon
- 11:54has about one hundred and ten terminals across the United States, all the way
- 12:00from Fort Lauderdale to North Pole of Alaska, and so I have people throughout
- 12:05the country that are supporting those places from an HR standpoint, and that's my
- 12:09organization. Do you do hiring and firing? Then I don't now necessarily a
- 12:16myraal, but the people that work with me or for me, they are
- 12:20doing that. Yes, Okay, then you've you've advised them or they consult
- 12:22you. What is the how do you close when you're hiring or when you
- 12:28have your people hire? And what's your go to brief as possible line When
- 12:33you're firing brief as possible. We've probably already made the decisions. That point,
- 12:37there's probably not much less to discuss, you know, thank you,
- 12:41wish you the best. From a hiring standpoint, I will tell you that
- 12:46I've been with this company for twelve years. It's a great company. They've
- 12:48taken great care of me. I've watched the great care they take of others.
- 12:52The compensation is very good, the benefits are very good, and you
- 12:56know, our company culture is at the top. So I would encourage you
- 13:00to come in and take a look. Do you have a position for an
- 13:03aging announcer? I don't know. I'm sure we can find you. Guys
- 13:07something. What is the largest salary amount that you've offered a potential employee?
- 13:13You probably shouldn't say that. Shouldn't a big company. It's not like he's
- 13:18going over to I don't want to get that word get out seen. People
- 13:22know a glass door, they know what people are making. There are several
- 13:24hundred thousands for sure. Then there's long term incentive and bonus and those sort
- 13:30of things that go on top of it. I mean, there's there's definitely
- 13:33some pretty good jobs out there. So you think all inclusive in the package
- 13:37as far as all options and everything. You've probably offered someone between four hundred
- 13:41to five hundred. Yeah, definitely, see what I mean, you just
- 13:45got nil on the brain here. You got to ask questions about all that.
- 13:46You just just find an I L I find this stuff interesting. I
- 13:50mean, did you ever get a chance to talk about this stuff? That's
- 13:52interesting stuff? I you assumed you were talking about me, for aging announcer.
- 13:56I think Tony's now pitching forward? What about it? Forget you,
- 14:00guys, I'm not aging. I might go talk to Ken. I get
- 14:03the weekends up now, I'm on holidays. Yeah. Hey, let's go
- 14:07back to your time here. You said something a couple of things interesting there.
- 14:09So you get your masters while you were here. So he did an
- 14:11undergrand end masters before you got out of here. Correct? Correct? All
- 14:15right? Number two, you said NBA wasn't in your future and you didn't
- 14:18want to go overseas to play. That's a little bit rare. Why why
- 14:22did you know that continuing your basketball? Right? I know there were injuries
- 14:24in there, but why did you not want to continue the career? Well,
- 14:28A couple of things come to mind, Brad. So Number one,
- 14:31I know that basketball was something up probably was not going to do forever.
- 14:35And my parents kind of instilled in me that at some point that ball will
- 14:39probably stop bouncing, you know. So that's two of you to get an
- 14:45education. So while you're there, you know, make it work that it's
- 14:48it's free, which is an unbelievable benefit that I'm super grateful and thankful for
- 14:52every day. But you know, take advantage of that. Number two.
- 14:58I got to go Overseas twice in my college career, once for education and
- 15:01once for like basketball. Brian, if you ever get him on the show,
- 15:07you can talk to him about the time that him and I spent two
- 15:09weeks over in Eastern Europe. We had a great time, but I quickly
- 15:13realized there that hey, this is not for me. Yeah because it was
- 15:18Eastern Europe, or because of truck Yeah, yeah, I had to go
- 15:22a truck. Yeah that's interesting. So let's go even back a little bit
- 15:30further than that. So my perception is John bee Line in the West Virginia
- 15:35staff or recruit you. Before you get here, you suffer a significant knee
- 15:41injury which impacted you for the rest of your career. Can you fill in
- 15:46the details and the facts on that, Yeah, I can. I don't
- 15:50like to think about it a lot. But yeah, my senior season,
- 15:54we were set up, we were hoping to make a state tournament run,
- 15:56and I can't remember we were probably five or six. Came to in the
- 15:58season and I went up and dunked it, and I came down and four
- 16:03my meniscus, which required surgery, required an immobilizer for several weeks, pretty
- 16:10much non weight bearing for some time. And you know, I don't know
- 16:17that I ever really recovered. And I don't know necessarily from a physical standpoint,
- 16:21but just mentally from it. Just it kind of altered my game forever.
- 16:26Um. So, and then when I got into college, I had
- 16:30another I kept having my knee dislocate. I don't know if you remember that.
- 16:33I remember that. Yeah, they probably five or six times my sophomore
- 16:40year or freshman. Yeah, it's hard to remember all those years. Um
- 16:45but yeah, it dislocated five or six times. So then I had to
- 16:48have another pretty serious knee surgery that was like a twelve to fourteen week rehab
- 16:53was with Doc who's one of the best trainers ever, by the way,
- 17:00but talking about Randy Matter. Talking about Randy Matter, Yep, go ahead,
- 17:03Yeah, So you know, I had two pretty good knee injuries.
- 17:07And I mean you talk about my career. Yeah, I came there as
- 17:11a shooting guard, you know, don Bee Line. I think talked a
- 17:12little bit about maybe to replace you know, Hairbear or whenever he was there.
- 17:19But I quickly realized that I wasn't gonna fill that role for Hugs.
- 17:25And you know, I saw an opportunity to get on the court by becoming
- 17:29something that maybe I had not been, you know, the rest of my
- 17:33or prior life, and so I seized on that opportunity and it paid off
- 17:37for me. So when when you got it, because by the time you
- 17:40were a senior, you were averaging twenty minutes a game. So when you
- 17:44got in there and as you said, you weren't in there to light it
- 17:47up and started shooting from three point range? So what did you understand your
- 17:49role to be? What specifically were you supposed to do when you got in
- 17:53there, Hoppy, I could tell you the scouting or port for the other
- 18:00team, like the back of my hand. I knew whatever play they were
- 18:03going to run. I knew every single one of our plays. I knew
- 18:07where every single person was supposed to be on our plays. I knew.
- 18:11My job was to get the other guys open, to create stots for them
- 18:17to make good passes, to walk out the rebound, to guard whoever I
- 18:22was put into guard the very best I could. It was the court eventual,
- 18:27you know, the little things that we that we always talked about.
- 18:30I took a lot of pride in that, and I had to. I
- 18:34had no other choice because you know, everyone else is more talented to me.
- 18:40In another ways, how valud goes all that bread, Well, it's
- 18:44unreal. Let's go back here a second, because we got to pay some
- 18:45proper homage to this. This, this is unbelievable what you just said.
- 18:51You come in as a six seven shooting guard for John Beeline, So had
- 18:55all things being equal, you're a perimeter guy. You would have been a
- 18:56great shooter. You would have fit that offense, and we would have talked
- 19:00about this six seven guy like a tall two guard. And you shifted all
- 19:04of that over to which you didn't say there about knowing all the little details.
- 19:07You also became an enforcer and a tough guy and the heartbeat of a
- 19:11team. You completely changed who you were as a player and played one hundred,
- 19:15one hundred and seventeen games over your career as somebody that you weren't coming
- 19:21into West Virginia. That is an unbelievable transformation and story. How do you
- 19:26get yourself to that point? You know, I really don't know. Like
- 19:30I said, I think I was. You know, I'm a pretty realistic
- 19:34guy, and I think always happen. I think it's what's been able to
- 19:37help me maybe be successful in my twenty seven in the business world, is
- 19:42that I'm realistic and I'm transparent from the standpoint of you know, I could.
- 19:48I was with those guys every single day of my life. We've played
- 19:51open Jim, we worked out together, and it was pretty quick to realize
- 19:55that they were more talented than me and more athletics than me. So it's
- 19:57like, all right, if I'm going to get on this court, I'm
- 20:00going to have to do something that they don't necessarily do. And so it
- 20:06doesn't take long to figure out some places. You know that I had opportunities.
- 20:11Your ability to be self aware there is light years ahead of anyone in
- 20:18your age group at that time, and it's a great, great statement and
- 20:26story for others in this world that we're living in now with the transfer portal
- 20:32and everyone runs away when the first hint of adversity comes in. But think
- 20:37about it. You're recruited by a John b Line spread the floor finesse game.
- 20:41You inherit Bob Huggins, who is a physical we're gonna guard. And
- 20:48to me, that's why I've always loved your game and have unbelievable respect for
- 20:53you because of what you just said. You just said, Okay, tell
- 20:56me what I need to do for you, rather than hey, what can
- 21:00you guys do for me to get me ready to go to wherever the next
- 21:04level? And because you did that, you enjoyed the ultimate success. You
- 21:11had success as a team, you had great friendships, you go to the
- 21:12final four. I mean that to me, and then unlook what you're doing
- 21:18today and you're having success, like that's what this thing is supposed to be
- 21:22able to do, and you did it. So that's why I think you
- 21:25might have not scored the most points, but to me, you're an absolute
- 21:29massive winner in the real game. Thank you, I mean those are very
- 21:33kind words. I think that's what made that team what it is. I
- 21:37mean, deni ill, I mean that's a different conversation than that's changing the
- 21:42game totally. But I can tell you when b Line left and Hugs came
- 21:47in, don't think that that group of eight freshmen that came in together didn't
- 21:51start to think about what's our future. Right. We may not necessarily be
- 21:56the Hugs type player. You know, John be Line and Bob Luggins are
- 22:00about as far opposite, you know, types of games as you can get.
- 22:04And we had those conversations a lot and a couple of us did leave,
- 22:08but that core group that stayed. Man, the chemistry, the trust,
- 22:12the bond that was amongst that group is you know, I think you
- 22:18owe a lot of that to that run that we made to go to the
- 22:22final four to win the Big East Tournament. That, like what four week
- 22:26period of time is probably one of the best ever in Mountaineer basketball. And
- 22:29I think you could probably look back to that that window and time when bee
- 22:33Line left and Hugs came in, and Hugs told us, look, number
- 22:37one, we didn't want to go anywhere. We all wanted to stay together
- 22:41and we told each other that. And then number two, I'll never forget
- 22:45when Hugs came in he said, I'm not looking to get you know,
- 22:49move anybody out. He said, but what I will tell you is us.
- 22:52He said, this may be one of the hardest things you ever do
- 22:56in your life, which is playing for me. He's like, but it's
- 23:00going to be one of the most rewarding things you ever do in your life.
- 23:03And I'll remember those words until I died that you know, he took
- 23:07great care of us. You know, I'm looking at that roster just for
- 23:11to kind of remind people. Cam. So, this was the freshman group
- 23:15that you guys came in. You were a freshman, Johnny West was a
- 23:18freshman, Will Thomas was a freshman. Campaign was a freshman. Jacob Greene
- 23:23and John Flowers and your sophomores were the day Shaun Butler's, the Joe Missoula's,
- 23:30the Josh Sowards, the Jared Browns, and the Wellington Smiths and that
- 23:36knew what was Alex was a forget though. Let me don't forget. Yeah,
- 23:40uh, Donnie and I came in with that group. The sophomore group
- 23:44we came in with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right,
- 23:49day Shaun group. I just remember that you guys bonded so tightly so
- 23:56early that I understand what you're saying, Like, Hey, we're going to
- 23:59stay together. I remember we went to from you tell me did we go
- 24:03play in Orlando early in your career in the Disney thing, right, and
- 24:07I could just see you knuckleheads running around together just having a riot. And
- 24:12over in the in the hotel area. You remember like when you guys like
- 24:17captured a lizard or something in a sneaker box and you're and you guys are
- 24:22running around with you like, hey, man, which guy like like Cam's
- 24:25got the lizard inside of a sneak a Nike box And I'm going like,
- 24:27I'm thinking to myself, how now hell are we gonna win with these clowns?
- 24:30These are the guy, this is the future of Mountaineer basketball. You're
- 24:33running around with a big lizard, like, hey got a Liz Area dash,
- 24:37we got a lizard in the box. And I'm going, all,
- 24:40this isn't gonna be good. This is not gonna we have a group tech.
- 24:42We have a group tech together. We actually, I think Smalligan ended
- 24:47up bringing that up probably not too long ago, and everybody had a pretty
- 24:49good laugh about that. See, and that's it. But it's remarkable,
- 24:52and we've said this before on the show many times. It's also a testament
- 24:55to you guys, but also Hugs. I think that's some of hugs best
- 24:57coaching was his early time time of not saying you have to be exactly like
- 25:03the ideal Bob Huggins player. And he was able to meld all of you
- 25:04guys, and you've all adapted, not just you, and I just go
- 25:08back to it's just incredible where you took yourself to that. And I don't
- 25:12know if you guys do this a lot, but I've done this. You
- 25:15enter Cam Thurman into Google Cam. You ever do that? You ever put
- 25:18your name into Google Cam? Cam Thurman? Duke comes up second, Yes,
- 25:22with him stepping out. Was it Gerald Henderson that you stum? For
- 25:26those of you that are watching, let's show that video Cam Thurman NCAA tournament.
- 25:30Here we get Gerald Henderson tries to pull a punk move. Watch this.
- 25:34He pushes Cam down the camp because Cam says, here, I got
- 25:40a little bit of that for you. There's your six seven shooting guard that
- 25:42came in. Just put a forearm right and Gerald and said, oh is
- 25:45that right here? You want to play like that? You want to push
- 25:48me in the back. Here's how we're gonna play yeah, you know.
- 25:49You know what else comes up is when and by the way, I think
- 25:52we should submit this video and see if they can reopen the investigation cam.
- 25:56Is when Luke Luke Godi assaulted. Here we go, ready, we got
- 26:02watch under the baskets, got the ball arm wept and watch this in a
- 26:06way week ago the old arm roll. Oh, poor bunny, Bunny.
- 26:12That may have been the only two free throws ever made in my career.
- 26:18Yeah, A six seven finesse shooting garden. You're doing that and that's true,
- 26:21then then that's what I mean, that's what the remarkable part of you
- 26:23is to remake yourself and change who you were and who you became in your
- 26:27A legend here for that. Yeah. So you mentioned that you have a
- 26:33brother. Were you always a tough guy? Um? Or does that something
- 26:38you grew into something I definitely grew into. My brother and sister are ten
- 26:42and eleven years older than me. Um. Okay, so yes, I
- 26:45was. I was a baby. I was a mama's boy that you know,
- 26:49got baby. My dad would be a little rough on me at times,
- 26:53but at the end of the day, you know, Mama's tried to
- 26:56make sure that nothing too bad ever happened to side. I remember a couple
- 27:00of times, you know, she would question some of Hug's coaching moves because
- 27:04it was at her baby. She, you know, just couldn't believe that.
- 27:08Hey, I want to go back to moving. Since you've moved half
- 27:11a dozen times, are there any items that about the third or fourth move
- 27:15that you say, why are we still moving this thing? Throw it away?
- 27:21Get rid of Why are we moving this for the fifth time? Do
- 27:22you have anything like that question? Okay, maybe we should let my wife
- 27:26listen to this. Yes, we have had that conversation multiple times. We
- 27:33have a couple of boxes downstairs that probably have two or three different moving stickers
- 27:37on, and it's like we didn't even know we've had that, But we
- 27:41keep it. We keep it. You never know when you might need it.
- 27:45There you go. Hey, when you're when you're out walking about,
- 27:47you say six seven. So we see six seven guys all the time on
- 27:49the court, but that in life when you're walking around, you're a big
- 27:52dude. Right when you walk in the room. How many times does your
- 27:56basketball career come up? How many times does West Virginia basketball come up in
- 27:59your daily life? A lot? And a lot more here lately than probably
- 28:04ever before. So I would say not on a daily basis, but a
- 28:11weekly basis for sure, especially with all the different people I meeting in this
- 28:14new job, um, and at the corporate headquarters where there's a there's probably
- 28:18several thousand people here at the office. So you know, good. I
- 28:22hope you're wearing that flying WV right in right amongst those Ohio so you got
- 28:26a lot of Ohio state, and I hope you're Walton right into the meetings.
- 28:30Yes, it's exhausting here when you if you were playing today with nil,
- 28:37what would be what would be your money? What would be the money
- 28:41you deserve? You know what? That's one of the things that's been a
- 28:48little bit. I don't know what the money is. I don't know what
- 28:52Some of these guys are getting, um crazy, some of them getting crazy.
- 28:57What are some of the guys that are mountaineers today? One hundred fifty
- 29:00two hundred, five hundred eight hundred. You said it earlier. With the
- 29:03contracts you've been offering, Yeah, the head however, they don't get options
- 29:10for the future. UM. I think you can like security company, big
- 29:15heavy machinery company. Well, he needs something tough, like some kind of
- 29:19like security system like tough guard. Have you or have you equipment heavy equipment,
- 29:23tough terrain you got to dig into. I think cam you m I
- 29:29think you see Walker machinery. Yeah, yeah, exactly, you could make
- 29:33I think he would make No, I think he can make probably twenty five
- 29:36to fifty thousand dollars. He'd have a market. Yeah, way he played,
- 29:40there's a market. Yeah, absolutely he could. Yeah. And now
- 29:42now that's just straight home, that's just straight cash. Now there's other things
- 29:45we could probably you know, what could jails? Could you do for well,
- 29:48he'd probably likes to, you know, outdoor fishing and hunting, you
- 29:51know, something in the world of them, maybe side by side or some
- 29:55gear or something like that. You would have some issues licensing with Haron Goati's
- 29:57people, but she kind I think that different. But you could have that
- 30:00close on a T shirt that would sell a lot of T shirts. Or
- 30:03stepping over Gerald Henderson again, you kind of fuzz out Henderson so you can't
- 30:07tell it's him, so you don't have to pay Duke any royalties, but
- 30:10you're stepping over him that how many T shirts would that have sold? You
- 30:14print those in a couple days after he does that be a ton of T
- 30:17shirt? Do you do you do you miss it? Do you miss it?
- 30:19Do you ever have pangs? I do miss it? Um. People
- 30:26always ask that question, and I always say I miss it. I don't
- 30:29know that I would sign up to go right back and do it again.
- 30:32Um, but I definitely miss it. And my left knee definitely has Martha
- 30:37ritis in it already from just the surgeries and the beating and the banging.
- 30:41But I don't regret it ever one bit. Like I loved that experience so
- 30:47much. It made me who I am today. I would not be the
- 30:49person I am without that experience, without Coach Huggins. So you know,
- 30:56very blessed to have that in my life. Do you need to hurt right
- 30:59now? Like this moment? It does not hurt right now. Good.
- 31:02Are you coaching your kids at all? Yes? I do coach my son.
- 31:07Um. I've coached baseball and then I also coach basketball. Right while
- 31:11we were in North Dakota and my son got into hockey. But I can't
- 31:12even get on the ice. Yeah, that would not be good for the
- 31:17knee. Yeah, that would be good forcer on the ice. Yeah.
- 31:23Four on the skates. Do you do you like the coaching part of it?
- 31:27I do, yes, And my son tells me he wants me to
- 31:32coach him. So that's really all that the only thing I need. Here
- 31:33you go. Yeah, look, I know it's early. I get oh,
- 31:37here we go, Here we go recruiting time. I know, I
- 31:40know it's early, but I mean, as you kind of watch him a
- 31:42little bit and see him run a little bit. How how the hips,
- 31:47what's the what's the twitch? Was he does he got Does he have a
- 31:49little bounce? Do he get something to him yet? No, it's too
- 31:53early. I tell my wife, I don't know that he has that killer
- 31:56instinct at him yet. And you know, if he started to show the
- 31:59spurts up it in this past baseball season. We just finished h this past
- 32:02week, and he's starting to show a little tenacity, a little you know,
- 32:07killer instinct. Here we go. Yeah, just let it never too
- 32:10early. How Yeah, you're still trying to tell him to shut to share
- 32:13with his toys, and then you want him to go drill somebody in the
- 32:15field. So that's a tough time. Jam's got it, right. You
- 32:16gotta just wait. Yeah, it'll develop like wine right, it'll develop trying
- 32:21to tell a little body's to pass the ball to the other guy, not
- 32:22just go take it from him all the time. It's a tough message.
- 32:27Which which one of your former teammates? Do you stay the closest with?
- 32:30Johnny? Yeah? By far? How's he doing? What's that? How
- 32:35his world? They had a baby? Right? Yeah, he's done good.
- 32:37We have girls that are about three months apart. Kenn's three months older
- 32:43than Gabriella. Um. I just was out there and La a couple of
- 32:50months ago. We played in the member of guest golf tournament out there in
- 32:53southern California and spend a week together. That's not fair. He's got a
- 32:59better and stru probably didn't you do? Let me let me let me ask
- 33:01you, let me ask you something. Chances are that golf tournament. Wasn't
- 33:06that a municipal course? Was it? What was the name of that course?
- 33:09I'm trying to think of it. I'll mention it was it crazy night.
- 33:16Do you know what it is? It was really really nice. I
- 33:21enjoyed it, like, do you know what the name of the court?
- 33:22Do you know? What are you getting? What are you getting at?
- 33:25Johnny West isn't playing at putt putt. That's what I'm saying. Johnny's probably
- 33:30got something that was it was it was it a world class place that's called
- 33:34the Madison Club's Place. Okay, I mean it's not the Masters, but
- 33:38okay, I didn't know if you like you went gave me the like you're
- 33:40gonna give me a pebble beach or something like that. So I'm looking at
- 33:46this roster of when you were a baby. Okay, think about these cats
- 33:52and what they've become day. Shaun Butler's in the league, Joe Missoula is
- 33:57in the league. Johnny West in the leagu league. Joe Alexander played for
- 34:00over a decade. Derris Nichols is a Division one head coach. Alex Rooff's
- 34:06here on staff. Campaign's doing really well on the financial business. Jared Brown,
- 34:12he was a guest here. Um one of the more memorable podcasts that
- 34:15we had, he was cutting someone's hair cam while while we interviewed him.
- 34:20Had had the buzzer in the background. Um, Wellington's doing well. John
- 34:25Flowers is into more things than whatever. And obviously Jamie is doing well.
- 34:30I see him every once in a while when we're on the road and we
- 34:31head towards kind of the middle of the country. Um, so look at
- 34:35that, man, that's that was a fantastic group of guys that have all
- 34:37gone on and done really really well. Yeah. I think there's a lot
- 34:44of success to come from acts. I got to go to the Greenbriers this
- 34:46past springing and playing that game changer outing. I got to play with a
- 34:52really cool guy, Ryan leg I know he's a big supporter. Yeah,
- 34:58yeah, man, he's a his family. They were a lot of fun.
- 35:00But I got to k Um and Um John and a lot of different
- 35:07guys, and that was really cool to go back and see a lot of
- 35:09folks. So the Madison Club membership fees are reported to be a half million
- 35:15dollars, with an annual fee of seventy five thousand dollars. It's just a
- 35:19little club, hoop, just a little just a little, uh little little
- 35:22club off the side of the road. Probably it's one of the ten most
- 35:24expensive golf clubs in America. Huh. Interesting, Cam he said it was
- 35:29nice. Well, yeah, I think it was nice. Said it was
- 35:30nice from him. Hey, by the way, I didn't mention Teddy talking
- 35:34it. What's Teddy doing. You know what I have talk to him.
- 35:37Probably I think the last guy I heard you as a doctor? Okay,
- 35:42did you do that? I was, I was just I didn't know what
- 35:45he was doing. But he was one of the all times. He was
- 35:46wonderful too, just absolutely great. Loved him, loved him. All right.
- 35:52Well, listen a couple of things now that I have your phone number.
- 35:55Um, he's gonna apply for one of this No, no, I'm
- 35:59gonna make sure that his wife here's this podcast. So I'm gonna do everything
- 36:02I can because you need to get you need to get her one. You
- 36:06need to get her one of those travel trailers. And we're giving ten thousand
- 36:09dollars off. And if you're ding donging around and a half a million dollar
- 36:14country club, you can drop it. I'm right, I mean right,
- 36:15Brad, I mean we'll give it's a pretty good offer. Well, I
- 36:17mean, as he was a guest, he didn't say he paid for the
- 36:21country club. Same difference. I mean, listen, as Will Wade would
- 36:24say, that's a strong ass offer ten its ten thousand dollars off that thing
- 36:30at Burdette Camping and visit them. Um, fantastic, All right, brother,
- 36:35Thanks so much. I know you wander around here every now and then
- 36:38make sure you you say hello when you come into town. Sure, I
- 36:43hope you got it? Uh, continue success all right, my man?
- 36:46Thank god, thanks, take care of good to talk to you, various
- 36:50cam Thuraman. Same as people belong to that golf club. I'm just I'm
- 36:54reason now I'm obsessed with his golf club. Yeah, you went with a
- 36:58couple, Give it to me. Who else? Who's on? Who?
- 37:00Who belongs? Let's see you give me a minute go ahead of your next
- 37:04thing. And I was just gonna, I was simply gonna say that the
- 37:07folks at Burdett Camping have that unbelievable offer. And I just want to continue
- 37:14to stress that that if you know you're interested, or someone that you know
- 37:17is interested, why wouldn't you go to the only warranty forever RV dealer in
- 37:22all of West Virginia. Visit them at Burdettecamping dot com. Three guys also
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- 37:31secure and deficient for twenty five years. And you think it would be illegal
- 37:37to put Hauler RV and pontoon all three of them be an illegal hall illegal,
- 37:49probably pushing that. Just yesterday I saw a guy who handles that for
- 37:53the state police. I can check with it, but I'm sure that would
- 37:55be yeah problem. Hey, you know what you gotta people? Let me
- 37:59ask you a question. Yeah, I those easy passes. I mean,
- 38:02he called down that DMV for me because I've been wondering like them. So
- 38:07I went up to New York. I've always wanted to get one of those
- 38:12easy passes. Okay, I thought you did get one. I did,
- 38:15so I always wanted to get one. I got to get one because sometimes
- 38:16I go to North Carolina sometime, but I don't go to New York and
- 38:20watch hardly a though. But anyway, I went up there to that Syracuse.
- 38:22Then you wanted to get you one? Yeah, So I go to
- 38:24the rest stop there, and I'm in New York State and I and I
- 38:28stop at the rest stop and uh, and I saw right at the counter
- 38:30they're selling them, and I go, well, heck, this is perfect.
- 38:35I don't have to eat, you don't have to go online and have
- 38:36them send it to mess And I can I buy one of this? He
- 38:37said? Sure? So I buy it, set it up it works fine,
- 38:42zips and tips it. So do I not get the West Virginia resident
- 38:45discount? Now? When I go down there to Beckley at the toll thing
- 38:50in Beckley because I bought it in New York State? What I look like,
- 38:52Donnie DMV. I don't know how said. I just said. You
- 38:57were talking to people down there? Why why would you get the discount?
- 39:00They don't know that you have anything to do with West Virginia. When you
- 39:01put in New York. No, but when you put your address in and
- 39:05when you put your credit card on there, it's a West Virginia address.
- 39:07So does that give you the West Virginia discount? When you email me the
- 39:14info, I'll find out. That's awesome about you? You just gave him
- 39:15a segment for them. Aw that's the ten thirty three segment coming up tomorrow
- 39:19on talk line. What if you're out of state? But what if you
- 39:22buy it out of state? That's all because I was Okay, I'll what's
- 39:24joining us now on talk line. I'll just recently I heard from a West
- 39:30Virginia resident. I'll get to the bottom of this. I'll just email me
- 39:37and I'll ask, I'll just delete. I'll just get rid of the one
- 39:39from West or from New York State, and I'll just get buy a West
- 39:43Virginia and if that'll give me the disco. So it was an easy pass.
- 39:45It's an easy say. It works in all states, but you get
- 39:47like I think, if you're a resident in the state, you buy it
- 39:51and you get a cut. I don't care about New York State. I'll
- 39:52pay full freight. I don't want to pay that full freight down the turnpike.
- 39:55Yeah, I got to that's a Actually, that's a pretty good question.
- 40:00Play on talk line tomorrow. This is great. I'm gonna do that
- 40:02only if you listen at ten thirty three tomorrow. I got a hunch I
- 40:09have. I have a hunch. We won't even take that long by the
- 40:13time this gets released. Our great three guys audience, Look, don't waste
- 40:17your time anyway. Here's some members at the Madison Club. Chris Jenner irving
- 40:25A's off. I don't know who that is, Cindy Crawford, Phil Knight
- 40:29of Nike La Fitness founder, Lewis welch Apple CEO, Tim Cook, Oh
- 40:35Cook belongs h But then interesting, it's very very It's it's not only golf
- 40:39course, but an upscale residentiary. What do you how much of a brad?
- 40:44How much you they get a paper month there for food? Now I
- 40:46have to break the kids here to eat because you know they're gonna charge us
- 40:50anyway, so we have to eat at the club. Did Johnny say that
- 40:52to Cam? Cam? You know, I got to spend one hundred and
- 40:54four million each month and food. We're gonna come over and get a get
- 40:59a blt in a beer sixty eight dollars. That's okay because I got sixty
- 41:05eight thousand. I got to spend this month in food. We don't have
- 41:08none of not one of us has that problem doing of what having to fill
- 41:15a to buy a certain amount of food. Yeah, we don't want,
- 41:17but you do because I'm sorry, go ahead, I'm gonna joll me check
- 41:21on m by the way real quick before you get to the side. That
- 41:23was fun catching up with Cam. Yeah, that's why I wanted us to
- 41:27do that, because he's always good. He's right in that, so I
- 41:30always I will always say guys like him. Nathan Adrian did that same thing,
- 41:35came in as something different, transformed himself in terms of what type player
- 41:38was now Nate's gone back the other way and gone back to more of what
- 41:42he was in high school. A score a perimeter guy. But it's it's
- 41:45always a great credit, I think to those guys to come in and become
- 41:47something you're not at this level, all right, that's hard to do,
- 41:52man. Yeah. A couple of pieces of business getting closer to the formal
- 41:59announcement of our trip down to Greenborough County. Three Guys on the road Friday
- 42:04Saturday, July twenty eighth and July twenty ninth do a Friday event Saturday event
- 42:14details coming in penning the calendar editor. Is it sell pencil? Because I
- 42:19got it? I got him trapped. Now, folks, they can't walk
- 42:21away now. I have a s my schedulers asking if that's official? It
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- 43:42of water. That's what I've found, Okay, selling well, hmm what
- 43:47I'm told, Yeah, yep um. Also, hold on, what are
- 43:53you doing over there? You've missed like the last three things. He just
- 43:55scheduled you for an event. You don't even know that we're talking about the
- 43:59call. You don't even know what are you doing Sorry, I was trying
- 44:00to I got customer service on d m V. On the DMV, I'm
- 44:06gonna send this question. I get an answer. You're really doing show prep.
- 44:08One other thing, says customer service. You're doing show prep for another
- 44:12show customer Customer Service Center, West Virginia Turnpike. Hello, my friend.
- 44:21Hey, also, um, but we got we got some text throw your
- 44:23name around, Tony CEDI just hey, textual healings coming in a second,
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- 44:49it says efforting on that thing. That'll be nice for Goldbrush game this fall.
- 44:52Yeah, and there's some on the back of it too. Does it
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- 45:29back. Oh says three guys. That's why I wanted to know if I
- 45:31had three guys. All right, let's do this, do this, do
- 45:34this, do this now? Question said, what did we're not comm into
- 45:58You're going to Greenborough County. Don't tell anybody. You're gonna have a big
- 46:02time, and you're I got your ast stay in the whole time. You
- 46:06can't run. You might try to run and high, but not this time.
- 46:10When we leave, we'll leave that day Friday, probably after your show.
- 46:16Okay, who's driving, we're going together. We can we'll figure it
- 46:22out. We can see you hither one. Okay, never mind, schedule
- 46:27will go. You're probably the guy that when you go down you're probably the
- 46:30guy that when you go down to Greenbrik County, you're the guy that goes
- 46:34like, no, I don't go through Summersville. I go all the way
- 46:37to Charleston, then cut across on the interstate. No, I probably every
- 46:42great West Virginia. I get off in Beckley, and I go to Nettie
- 46:46and then I head south down the mountain, and then I go on to
- 46:50sixty. You don't go to Beckley, you don't even go close to Sorry,
- 46:53Summersville. Drive fifty through Summersville, I take the left. I go
- 46:59to Nettie, Nettie South and then I get on sixty and then I go
- 47:04to sand Black Church, a former Meadwest maincome plant, passed the big lumber
- 47:13yard. There sixty post office right there in front of you at the stop
- 47:17Black Church. I've actually stopped at that post office and mailed or something.
- 47:28Why why why did you stop at that post office? How did you have
- 47:32it all the way with you to that post office? Then you would you
- 47:36just look, there's a post office. Okay, I gotta go down here
- 47:39and mail this. Because because I have lived in West Virginia all my life,
- 47:45and we've traveled West Virginia, sometimes you just end up places, end
- 47:47up doing things right, you know, like I was in the post office
- 47:51where I was in just happens. Sometimes things just happened like that that never
- 47:54happened to you. Like, Okay, I've stopped at a random post office
- 48:00hours from my house to mail something. No, that's never happened that You're
- 48:04glad it was there though worked for you. I think it did waiting for
- 48:07a reply. So topic number one on textual healing. I've come to this
- 48:16understanding this week, and it's this that no matter what, and I mean
- 48:30no matter what, people are going to have an opinion and they are going
- 48:37to be on both ends of the spectrum, regardless of what the situation is.
- 48:43And I'm not talking specifically about the Bob Huggin situation. I'm just saying
- 48:46just things. People are set in certain opinions and it does not matter whatsoever
- 48:55where you particularly go. And so a generalized theme of several of texts that
- 49:05we receive this week have been that it's either been I'm here on this situation
- 49:14or I'm here on this situation as one eighty as you can be. And
- 49:21so my point to all of that is this, do you notice that as
- 49:25well? Yeah, that's what I mean. So it doesn't right. Well,
- 49:34a couple of things. One is that we live in a very polarized
- 49:38environment, and I think it starts with our politics and our media is all
- 49:42very polarized. So the nature of the discourse pushes people, tends to push
- 49:47people to polar opposite positions. I think that's I think that's first. So
- 49:52I acknowledge that, whether it's news or politics or sports or whatever, also
- 49:58people who are motivated to comment are more likely to be in those polarized positions.
- 50:06That's a great point if you have, If you have, somebody goes
- 50:08in. I see both sides, and I'm not really sure. I'm trying
- 50:12to sort it out. I don't. I don't think these people are inclined
- 50:14to comment. I think that I think both your points are dead on.
- 50:16I think that second points absolutely accurate. The conversations I've had live in person
- 50:22this week, it's it's numbered more than it does. I've been out more
- 50:27have been have been different than the ones I've seen online. It's been more.
- 50:30Oh, yeah, I understand that. I understand why they landed here.
- 50:34I understand why they It's been more understanding than the ones I've seen online,
- 50:37where it's very dug in. Yeah. Texture, As it has always
- 50:45said on this program, there's always a West Virginia connection. I am currently
- 50:50in San Diego attending a space weather research conference, probably representing WVU. I
- 50:55should add I was randomly assigned a roommate who was from the Paul. After
- 51:00a long first day, we went out for drinks and got to talking about
- 51:04our histories and homes. Needless to say, after a few minutes of talking
- 51:08about my great home state, he decided to tell me about his aunt.
- 51:13Where do you think she currently lives? That's right, Huntington, West Virginia.
- 51:20How in the world do I make a San Diego, Nepal West Virginia
- 51:23connection. I have realized that this is a universal law and not just a
- 51:29coincidence. Signed by Josh from Morgantown, currently messaging from a British pub in
- 51:34southern California. That's a good one. It was a great It was a
- 51:38great three great connected dots right there. I love those, of course,
- 51:46of course, Dalton and Greenbrier County writes He's concerned surprise uson, say,
- 51:52Kempel County, Hey, Tony, when this? When is the Greenbrier County
- 51:59event? I hope I don't miss it. If I hope I haven't missed
- 52:00it. No, Yeah, we're good, Dalton. I'm gonna see you
- 52:02there. July twenty eighth. July twenty nine, Texter Ren Baker as Captain
- 52:10Chaos. Insert picture if you had a picture to go here, there it
- 52:16is there he is so Ren's had a lot of stuff going on there.
- 52:21I now Ren is a wrestling fan. I don't think he would ever if
- 52:22Ren wrestled professionally. I don't think he'd be a masked man. I think
- 52:27he'd probably just go like, here's where I am man. Right, he
- 52:30does like wrestling. I had him on my public affairs program today, you
- 52:34know, saying he's been a little busy. His family's finally moved here,
- 52:37and he says he's been so busy. He still doesn't have the code.
- 52:39I guess he lives in a gated community, doesn't have the code. So
- 52:43every time he has to do I try to get somebody to let him in.
- 52:45Yeah, be a little busy, A little busy, um texter.
- 52:52Finally I have found kerchival work night at a hotel. Finally paid off Joey
- 53:00from Princeton. So, Joey from Princeton. He got himself some wings there.
- 53:05Huh Yeah, give him a Mason jar and that is in the West
- 53:07Virginia bistro Crisp Clean. Yeah, thank you, Joey Good used responsively text
- 53:14her mister SEC Paul Feinbaum open season on cheating thoughts. The message is clear.
- 53:22This is what finebomb said recently. The message is clear, cheat like
- 53:25crazy, don't stop until you win. I never thought I would say that,
- 53:30but it is the truth. It simply does not matter any more.
- 53:35He said that said that on a morning talk show there in Alabama. It
- 53:38mattered before in the SEC. Well, I think his point is he's fired
- 53:43up that lsu Um got basically a hand slap. And also, you know,
- 53:50I got a little clarification there. I will wade you see it too.
- 53:52No, it's ten games, ten games suspension, two years show cause.
- 53:58Okay, so what's that mean? Nine conference? He's gonna miss ten
- 54:02games as a coach, but they put a show cause on there. But
- 54:06he's still coaching. So this is the thing. What's why put the show
- 54:09cause on? It's for his next job. When he gets fired at this
- 54:13job, then he has a two year show cost. But go ahead,
- 54:15just in the intern, just go ahead and coach, say it out loud,
- 54:19as I just did say it out loud again. So Paul, wait,
- 54:21and you wonder why the NCAA takes shots. Well, yeah, so
- 54:23Paul that's Paul fine Bomb's entire that was the thesis that he was saying.
- 54:29He was saying, wait a second, there's cheating because the NC double A
- 54:34doesn't absolutely hammer people. So if you know you can go seventy five miles
- 54:39an hour in a sixty zone and never get a speeding ticket, you're gonna
- 54:43go seventy five miles per hour. But if you go to Somersville and you
- 54:47know you're getting pulled over on the side of the road, if you go
- 54:50fifty five, then you don't go to When you go to Somersville, you
- 54:53know what you do. You pay attention to the speed limit. You know
- 54:57why, because they enforce it. And fine Bombs point is, let me
- 55:01tell you something, if they just started hammering people, people wouldn't cheat as
- 55:06much as they did or are, or would or what. That's his point.
- 55:10That's exactly what his point is. Well, using the speeding analogy,
- 55:15it's like saying, you got caught going one hundred miles an hour, but
- 55:19we're not going to give you a ticket. We're going to give you a
- 55:22warning. But if you're caught going one hundred miles an hour again, then
- 55:25maybe you'll get a ticket. But that would be next time, right,
- 55:29because this time it doesn't matter, or probably you won't what's that? Or
- 55:31probably you won't the probably you won't, yeah, or next time it'll be
- 55:35jeez. I mean it's just whatever, Go do what you gotta do.
- 55:38Get guys. You know my stamp that should be our next shirt. Just
- 55:44get guys. Whoever's designed our shirts, that's trying to get guys, that's
- 55:50my shirt. People complain about tampering, their tampering, they're probably so let
- 55:53you tamper, go tamper, Go get what you got, Go get guys.
- 55:57What would you do if you were coach, go get guys? You
- 56:00would just say, go get guys. Whatever don't matter. I mean,
- 56:05no one's looking out for you, no one feels sorry for you, and
- 56:07people are gonna fire you if you don't win, true, true, So
- 56:09go do what you gotta do to win. Okay, until everybody else stops.
- 56:14That's the thing you can't. If you're gonna playment you get bonus points
- 56:19for playing by the rules. No, you get bonus points by what you're
- 56:21supposed to do. No, in fact, you get fire. Coach gets
- 56:24fired, and the new ad is gonna say, you know what, you
- 56:27know what he did wrong, played by the rules, So we're gonna fire
- 56:30him. If you got a tamper and poach, tampering porch poach, people
- 56:35are poaching your rosters. It's what's come to. Yep, get guys.
- 56:43New T shirt in gold blue lettering, Get guys. No what, I
- 56:51don't know if that'll sell Afford Afford. I'm gonna buy one, start wearing
- 56:55on the show. It's my I've been saying that for yours, Get guys.
- 56:58Affredy should sell effding. Whoever came up with that one should say dot
- 57:02dot or is effything? Period? Open ended says right there, just open
- 57:07ended like that. You like people want to go get guys. I saw
- 57:12a great one today. Went into a business this morning, went into a
- 57:16business this morning. Uh, dude had a white T shirt on blue lettering
- 57:23Clean and Crisp Fresh said. It was a West Virginia T shirt. Said
- 57:30Rich Rodriguez football camp. I thought it was great. I thought it was
- 57:36great. It was because you know what made it neat, because it's like,
- 57:38where did that come from? And it's still it's not like the guy
- 57:42he's painted in it and it's got holes and that like that's how you most
- 57:45of the times you see that, right, like he's had it and he
- 57:47just pulls it out. Yeah, and it's like literally that old. But
- 57:50like he told me where he got it, It was in a box.
- 57:53It was in a box at the coliseum and like just got pushed away somewhere
- 57:59and it was still fresh. No one had ever worn it, and so
- 58:00it was like perfectly clean. It was just like it was a throwback retro.
- 58:05Yeah, it's solid retro. Yeah, that's kind of like what I
- 58:07wanted to do with that Buffalo Brave stuff. You know. But that's but
- 58:12the great thing about that is that's real. That's real. So you see
- 58:15like a young actor, actress or twenty five years old and they have like
- 58:20a Pink Floyd shirt on, Like get out of here. You can go
- 58:22to the Pink Floyd concert. Yeah, Rolling Stone even got the Rolling Stones
- 58:29concert. Yeah, out of here? You went right Philly? You see
- 58:31him in Philly? Who Stones? I saw him? I've seen him twice?
- 58:36Yeah where once in Cleveland and once in Washington, DC? You saw
- 58:42you saw yes too where Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh twice. Who's the greatest concert performer
- 58:47you ever saw that? You just went still in your head today going like
- 58:51WHOA, what a shot? Tell you? Let me tell you the opposite
- 58:52of that. I saw Bob Dylan. You're gonna start screaming about Bob Dylan.
- 58:55I saw Bob Dylan. I know you did. Tell you that's already
- 58:59probably because guy. Remember and I saw my wife and a long time Bob
- 59:02Dylan fan. I saw him song here to Colo see him, and about
- 59:06halfway through each song, I thought, I think I know what he's singing.
- 59:10I think I know the song here. So as a concert it wasn't
- 59:14great, but like, yeah, I saw Bob Dylan, so this is
- 59:15like check a box. Uh, but he was just he was in a
- 59:19mumble mode. Yeah, I don't know he was Bob. I don't know.
- 59:22I don't know that just Bob Dylan. Yeah, everything sounded like that.
- 59:25But did you buy concert T shirts when you go? No? Or
- 59:29those that one nothing though they didn't have T shirts. Then we all wore
- 59:35merchant suit fedora at that had a wonderful time at the event. You didn't
- 59:43do that. See I'm a I'm a sucker for shirts. You got in
- 59:45one of the that is my thing. Oh that's cool, though you got
- 59:47him like, remember when I mean it could be a youth softball tournament.
- 59:51Oh really, youth karate van hanging me one of those shirts. I'm a
- 59:54big sucker for T shirt. I didn't know that. I just said it's
- 59:57always you should wear one out a class sick next time and bring I don't
- 1:00:00know if I have his man, I should. You know how many wrestling
- 1:00:02T shirts I had when we'd go to those wrestling events, how many?
- 1:00:06Like everyone, I mean everyone i'd go to, I'd go. We do
- 1:00:07a stand at the merchandise thing. Once went with a buddy who's still around
- 1:00:14that his credit card declined. Oh he was hot. He was trying to
- 1:00:17buy like a curt Angle shirt. They declined his credit card. To this
- 1:00:22day, he swears it's the facility's fault. It wasn't. It was him
- 1:00:25had a problem with his card. I offered to buy. I'll handle that
- 1:00:29hare ging me your shirt. I'll get your curt Angle. I'm buying a
- 1:00:31rock T shirt. Curd, how much? How much you pay for those
- 1:00:35stupid fifty forty bucks? Stupid? It's just put it right on every day.
- 1:00:40I'm a big sucker for T shirt at event. Guy, I'm that
- 1:00:43guy. Oh, that's good. It's honest. I might be able to
- 1:00:45take some orders for some gear when we go down there Greenbrier County. Take
- 1:00:50efforting T shirts. Probably I get some of those sixty dollars no fifty if
- 1:00:58you buy a bag of coffee with it? Now, what would you charge
- 1:01:00for an efforting T shirt? And by the way, are you if you're
- 1:01:04not gonna get like because you can get bad T shirts? I mean bad
- 1:01:07quality. I've been I've been quite emphatic, and Brad knows us. When
- 1:01:10I talk to these guys, I say, we're not selling any blank As
- 1:01:15soon as you pull it over your head, it's stretched out down. This
- 1:01:17is one hundred percent ring spun cotton fabric, weight of six point one ounces
- 1:01:22per yard to the second power two hundred and six point eight slash G slash
- 1:01:27M to the second power. I told those guys, I want to sell
- 1:01:30good stuff. I don't want anything bad. I was told it was nice.
- 1:01:37I haven't seen it. Okay, all right, that'll do it.
- 1:01:42That's it. No more texts. Is that what's happened, To the best
- 1:01:45of our power, To the best of our power, we're not going to
- 1:01:51do one of these on Sunday. Don't count on it. I'm busy.
- 1:01:57Our goal is not to be here on Sunday. Oh what's this about the
- 1:02:00conference? Yeah, seriously, that's that's the next one coming. That'll be
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