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  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Ben Maller
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  Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weeknight
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  Speaker 1: of the Ben Maller Show on Fox Sports Radio. So
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  Speaker 1: if you've not heard, perhaps not, in shame, in shame,
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  Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks coach Mike McDonald has apologized. A public apology.
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  Speaker 1: The Seahawks haven't even played three games and already their
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  Speaker 1: head coach has been forced to apologize. Mike McDonald embarrassing
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  Speaker 1: the franchise, sullying, sullying everything they've done. forced to apologize
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  Speaker 1: to Broncos coach Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Why? Because of a private comment that wasn't private about
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  Speaker 1: the 2024 Cold War, which surfaced publicly. Now, Payton, the
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  Speaker 1: Broncos coach, accepted the shameful apology by the Seattle Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: head coach, saying, he and I are good, but do
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  Speaker 1: we really believe that? Do we really believe that? Now,
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  Speaker 1: McDonald said he never intended the comments made on a
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  Speaker 1: TV show to be for public use. You can't make
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  Speaker 1: this up. You cannot make this. He said it on
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  Speaker 1: a TV show. These guys just lie to your face.
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  Speaker 1: It is so great, these NFL coaches. God love them.
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  Speaker 1: Paid liars. You got the guy in Arizona. And we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk about this in a bit here. Marvin Harrison Jr.
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  Speaker 1: just sitting on a lazy boy during the game, and
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  Speaker 1: the coach is like, he just has a different running style.
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  Speaker 1: And somebody, I don't know who did it, somebody online
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  Speaker 1: put the comments of the fool, the coach of the Cardinals,
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  Speaker 1: the guy that's the brother of the other coach of
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  Speaker 1: the Packers, and behind it is Harrison. La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la.
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  Speaker 1: You had the coach of the Washington, what used to
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  Speaker 1: be called the Redskins, say that, well, it looked like
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  Speaker 1: the players don't like Jaden Daniels, but that's not the case,
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  Speaker 1: even though there's video of them walking away from him
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  Speaker 1: while he's hurt. And now you've got this situation. Mike McDonald,
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  Speaker 1: the coach in Seattle who made comments on a TV show,
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  Speaker 1: did not think they were for public use. He said,
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  Speaker 1: I fell short in the moment. It's something I'm definitely
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  Speaker 1: going to learn from. Okay. Now, the original dispute began yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: after Seattle apparently studied about 100 different social media posts
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  Speaker 1: by Bronco fans during training camp there that were publicly
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  Speaker 1: posted on the various platforms. TikTok, Instagram, and all that
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  Speaker 1: crap that you people seem to love. And the Broncos,
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  Speaker 1: they've apologized. They've not apologized. They've accepted the apology of
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  Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. Now, the Seahawks backers, this is the
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  Speaker 1: part of the story which is interesting to me. So
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawks backers have now decided that the Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 1: apology is worthy of praise. that this was like the
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  Speaker 1: classiest apology you could possibly have. So that is a
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  Speaker 1: good jumping-off point. Let us discuss the question. Does Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: coach Mike McDonald deserve to be celebrated for apologizing publicly
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  Speaker 1: to the Broncos' Sean Payton? So I've got 7-11. We've
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  Speaker 1: got Starkist tuna. And an Amazon Prime order. And we
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  Speaker 1: will combine all of these together and we'll give you
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  Speaker 1: the razzle dazzle. We're going to give you the razzle dazzle. So, A.
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  Speaker 1: Seattle, as a franchise, has gone from back in the
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  Speaker 1: old days, they were the Legion of Boom. Legion of Boom. Oh, man,
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  Speaker 1: that defense was great. They've now morphed into the Legion
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  Speaker 1: of Broom, as in let's sweep up this little quagmire
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  Speaker 1: for Mike McDonald. The latest mistake will get the broom out,
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  Speaker 1: the Legion of Broom, and sweep that under the rug.
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  Speaker 1: So you might want to grab some bounty paper towels
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  Speaker 1: here because there's a lot of brown nosers in the
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  Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest right now. I'm going to get a whole
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  Speaker 1: roll of those paper towels for my friend Nostradinus. A
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  Speaker 1: whole roll for my buddy Nostradinus. Enough with the Slurp Fest, okay?
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  Speaker 1: The 12s, you all must work at 7-Eleven. You're handing
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  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald free Slurpees all week. Slurpee, Slurpee, Slurpee! In fact,
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  Speaker 1: at this point, I'm convinced. It's like a cult. Mike
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  Speaker 1: McDonald could steal J.J. and Renton's Toyota Camry. And the
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  Speaker 1: 12s would praise Mike McDonald and say that he is
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  Speaker 1: committed to reducing carbon emissions. And that's why he did it,
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  Speaker 1: to save the carbon footprint. As far as the apology,
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  Speaker 1: one word, corporate. Corporate. Controversy arrives, a statement follows, and
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  Speaker 1: everybody announces personal growth and we'll move on and all that.
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  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald did not find some kind of religion there.
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  Speaker 1: He found a crisis management handbook and went to page seven,
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  Speaker 1: and then that's what you do. He finally learned an
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  Speaker 1: NFL lesson, which most ragamuffins do not need to be taught. Apparently,
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  Speaker 1: he's not the brightest coach around because he didn't know this.
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  Speaker 1: If there's a camera and a microphone in the room
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  Speaker 1: and you're doing an interview, there's no such thing as
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  Speaker 1: private dum-dum. My God. So stop the slurp fest. Just
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  Speaker 1: stop the slurp fest. Now, meanwhile... Another part of this story,
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  Speaker 1: which is fascinating to me, is on the TV side.
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  Speaker 1: So there's this guy, Graham Benzinger, who I actually have
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  Speaker 1: a bit of a past with years ago when I
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  Speaker 1: was doing my website. And I've never met him, but
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  Speaker 1: our lives crossed paths years ago. So Graham does this
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  Speaker 1: late night TV thing. And he came out with a statement.
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  Speaker 1: It was on his show, which no one ever watches.
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  Speaker 1: But he says he regrets airing the viral Mike McDonald clip.
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  Speaker 1: Called it, quote, error in judgment is what he called it.
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  Speaker 1: An error in judgment because the Seahawks coach believed the
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  Speaker 1: conversation was private. Bullcrap. However, Benzinger says the entire interview,
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  Speaker 1: here's the key part. So Benzinger claims the entire interview,
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  Speaker 1: including the exchange which has blown up here, was sent
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  Speaker 1: to the Seattle Seahawks PR department five days before publication.
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  Speaker 1: And not a single man or woman, or child for
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  Speaker 1: that matter, in the PR department in Seattle ever requested
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  Speaker 1: the removal of any part So the question, was this a, quote,
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  Speaker 1: error in judgment by the TV talking head pretty boy
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  Speaker 1: Graham Benzinger to include the clip of the Seahawks coach
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  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald? So I give this whole thing on that
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  Speaker 1: side stink eye. This Benzinger guy says he sent the
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  Speaker 1: entire thing to the Seahawks PR department before publishing. which
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  Speaker 1: makes him look bad. It makes the Seahawks look bad.
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  Speaker 1: It makes him look worse. That tells you every interview
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  Speaker 1: he does is vetted by the communist government of whoever
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  Speaker 1: he's interviewing. Like, why would you admit that? Listen, apparently
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  Speaker 1: somebody in Seattle got lazy and they didn't do their
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  Speaker 1: job and whatever, but they had five days to object
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  Speaker 1: and the challenge flag stayed in the pocket in the
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  Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest. And so if you're the TV person, that's
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  Speaker 1: not your problem. You cannot advertise a show that is
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  Speaker 1: about candid conversations and then panic when somebody gets candid.
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  Speaker 1: That's not how any of this works. Now, from what
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  Speaker 1: I've heard, I don't have any inside information. People have
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  Speaker 1: told me that that show is just paid programming, that
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  Speaker 1: they buy time on these different channels, and that's how
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  Speaker 1: the show gets broadcast. gets cleared, which is one way
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  Speaker 1: to do TV. It's an outdated model, but good for
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  Speaker 1: them if they have that kind of money to buy
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  Speaker 1: time to deliver this schmaltzy softball hero worship, which is
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  Speaker 1: not for me. Now, you might like it. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of you apparently like that stuff. You've been raised with that.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't raised with that stuff, so for me... Makes
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  Speaker 1: me want to puke in my mouth. It's disgusting. But
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  Speaker 1: a lot of you love that. That's what you know.
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  Speaker 1: You want your fanboys is what you want. But this
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  Speaker 1: clip in particular went viral because it possessed the rarest
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  Speaker 1: commodity that we get in sports interviews today. You know
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  Speaker 1: what that is? What commodity? Yeah, exactly. Something genuinely actually interesting.
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  Speaker 1: This show finally had an interview that required no pharmaceutical
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  Speaker 1: assistance to stay awake to watch it. So, of course,
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  Speaker 1: of course, they finally get something good. And the guy
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  Speaker 1: that hosts the show, this guy Graham Benzinger, he finally
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  Speaker 1: catches a star-kissed tuna. And instead of getting your usual
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  Speaker 1: bucket of minnows, and now he's apologizing to the tuna.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, tuna. I shouldn't have caught you. Like, what
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  Speaker 1: are we doing here? You caught lightning in a bottle
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  Speaker 1: and you called the electrician and said, we got a
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  Speaker 1: problem here. Seriously. All right. Meanwhile, speaking of problems. we
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  Speaker 1: go to the valley of the sun better known as
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  Speaker 1: the valley of the lazy that is where you will
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  Speaker 1: find cardinals wide receiver marvin harrison jr likely in a
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  Speaker 1: lazy boy chair now he was interviewed following the amazing
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  Speaker 1: hustle that he showed that he showed The other day.
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  Speaker 1: So Harrison says he hears the criticism surrounding what has
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  Speaker 1: been a dreadful start. He's got one catch so far.
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  Speaker 1: This is supposed to be the breakout year three. Everything
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  Speaker 1: comes together. But he says he is trying to, quote,
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  Speaker 1: block out the noise, close quote, and focus on his
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  Speaker 1: responsibilities rather than social media. Things like that or, you know, statistics.
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  Speaker 1: He said, quote, I see everything. And everybody's entitled to
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  Speaker 1: their own opinions. Well, that's good. Thank you. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: for that. Harrison said, I am going to continue, quote continues,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to continue to worry about my team and
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  Speaker 1: my process and helping the team win the best we can.
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  Speaker 1: Harrison's effort has been called out by anyone who paid
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  Speaker 1: attention here, particularly on the plays where it looked like
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  Speaker 1: he was coasting along on a Sunday drive and Well,
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't look very good. You know, there's a camera
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  Speaker 1: on you at all times. So the question on this one,
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  Speaker 1: you've got Cardinals wide receiver Marvin Harrison Jr., who didn't
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  Speaker 1: seem to be worried about the people mocking his lazy performance.
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  Speaker 1: So how does that sound to you? How does that
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  Speaker 1: sound to you? Well, this guy's emotional temperature, Marvin Harrison Jr.
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  Speaker 1: 's emotional temperature is similar to going into a waiting
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  Speaker 1: room at a doctor's office and getting the temperature in
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  Speaker 1: the aquarium. It's very similar. Very, very similar there. And
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  Speaker 1: I know there's not a lot of Cardinal fans. I
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  Speaker 1: know there's not a lot. We're on in the Valley
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  Speaker 1: of the Sun there. But the Cardinal fans don't need
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  Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Jr. to block out the noise. They need
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  Speaker 1: him to actually make some noise. Preferably on Sunday. That
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  Speaker 1: would be good. Instead, he sounds like a guy, Marvin
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  Speaker 1: Harrison Jr., discussing a delayed Amazon prime order. Not, not
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  Speaker 1: his own disappearing act. It just, come on. Like your struggling,
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  Speaker 1: supposedly star-wide receiver to sound mildly inconvenienced by being invisible
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  Speaker 1: and embarrassing himself. So just tell me. Say, hey, I'm embarrassed.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me you're pissed. Give me something. Just give me
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  Speaker 1: something there. If people are questioning my effort, this is
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  Speaker 1: just me. I don't know how you would operate. But
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  Speaker 1: if people are questioning my effort, I'm not saying, hey,
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  Speaker 1: they're entitled to their opinion. I'm telling them they're wrong
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  Speaker 1: and I will prove it to you that you're wrong.
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  Speaker 1: And I will get that done here. X, Y and Z.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to do. And Harrison sounded more philosophical.
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  Speaker 1: rather than any kind of anger. There was not a
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  Speaker 1: lot of anger there. And really, all Harrison, Marvin Harrison Jr.
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  Speaker 1: needed was two sentences. He can hire me if he
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  Speaker 1: wants as a PR consultant. We can activate the Maller
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  Speaker 1: think tank. But there's only really two sentences that Marvin
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  Speaker 1: Harrison Jr. needed. The one sentence was, I haven't been
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  Speaker 1: good enough. See, that's the sentence. I haven't been good enough.
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  Speaker 1: And the other sentence is, that changes now.
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  Speaker 2: Boom.
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  Speaker 1: Put those together. Put a little pepper on top of that,
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  Speaker 1: and then you're good. That's it. So if this performance continues, Harrison,
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  Speaker 1: you talk about guys that are not long for their teams,
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  Speaker 1: and it's one of those players. He will find another
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  Speaker 1: opportunity because of the genetics, and his dad was a
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame receiver and all that. And they say, well,
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  Speaker 1: he'll figure it out. But he just doesn't seem to
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  Speaker 1: have the alpha. He's not an alpha. You've got to
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  Speaker 1: kind of have to have that, right? Don't you? Don't
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  Speaker 1: you think you have to have a little bit of that?
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  Speaker 1: If his game matched his serenity, a lot of serenity
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  Speaker 1: with Marvin Harrison. He came from a family. His dad
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  Speaker 1: made a lot of money playing in the NFL, so
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  Speaker 1: the family had money. The dad didn't have money, and
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of amazing stories on the Internet about
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  Speaker 1: what that led Marvin Harrison, the dad, to do. The
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  Speaker 1: kid had money, so he's very serene. There's serenity. And
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  Speaker 1: if his performance on Sundays matched the serenity that he shows,
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  Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Jr. would be Jerry Rice with a meditation app. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: that is not the reality of the situation.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to Football Doesn't Lie.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Bill Parcells.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm Catherine Zazzora.
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  Speaker 2: I have a lot of experience in the game of football, Catherine.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm learning the game with Bill's help. Every week,
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  Speaker 4: we're going to talk about the NFL slate through the
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  Speaker 4: lens of Bill's expertise as he coaches me from novice
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  Speaker 4: fan to football expert over the course of the season.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I'm looking forward to this show, Catherine, and
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  Speaker 5: hopefully we can give our audience a little in-depth look
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  Speaker 5: into the inner sanctum of pro football that they can't
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  Speaker 5: get anywhere else.
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  Speaker 4: Tune in every Thursday for unfiltered stories from Coach Parcells,
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  Speaker 4: analysis on the state of the modern game, and education
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  Speaker 4: on how football really works.
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  Speaker 2: Continuity is very important. But what happens when you.
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  Speaker 6: Get good coaches on your staff and people begin to
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  Speaker 6: recognize them, then they want to hire them. And then
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  Speaker 6: you can't stop a guy from trying to improve himself,
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  Speaker 6: but you have to replace them.
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  Speaker 4: Because once you understand what's going on inside the mind
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  Speaker 4: of the coaches, you'll understand more about the whole game.
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  Speaker 2: So all aspects can be discussed.
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  Speaker 5: The only thing I haven't done, because I didn't have
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  Speaker 5: enough money, I don't own the team.
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  Speaker 2: I never owned a team.
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  Speaker 1: So our lead this hour is from La La Land. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we have many, many little mantras on this show. One
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  Speaker 1: of the mantras is bad teams make good talk radio.
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  Speaker 1: Bad teams make good talk radio. So our lead is
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  Speaker 1: from L.A., and there is no more embarrassing franchise in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, not the Cleveland Browns, not the Cardinals, not
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  Speaker 1: the Raiders, the usual suspects, than the Chargers. My God,
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  Speaker 1: do they stink. So Justin Herbert... was being peppered with
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  Speaker 1: questions about the lack of leadership as he looks like
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  Speaker 1: he's ready to go hang ten and go cowabunga dude
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  Speaker 1: rather than play quarterback in the NFL. So Herbert pushing
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  Speaker 1: back on the repeated leadership questions when he addressed the
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  Speaker 1: media this week that charges off to the worst start
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  Speaker 1: in 100 years in NFL history. That's not hyperbole. They're 0-2,
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  Speaker 1: and they've lost to two bottom feeders. And it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: get more embarrassing than that. So Herbert insisting that vocal
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  Speaker 1: leadership is very present. Very, very present. With the Buffalo Bills,
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  Speaker 1: I believe, up next for the Chargers, Herbert said nobody
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  Speaker 1: is panicking and the focus remains on correcting mistakes. Now,
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  Speaker 1: as you know, Herbert, typically very vanilla, very, very vanilla,
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  Speaker 1: became somewhat fiery by his standards today. in comparison to
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  Speaker 1: what he normally is like, when the questions kept getting repeated,
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  Speaker 1: he got argumentative that it implied leadership had been missing.
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  Speaker 1: So you're telling me you're getting good leadership and the
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  Speaker 1: team still blows, okay. So the Bolts lost to some
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  Speaker 1: hungry puppies there, Arizona and Vegas, and literally the most
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  Speaker 1: embarrassing start, I'm not making this up, in 100 years,
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  Speaker 1: nobody had ever lost to two suckbag teams like the
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  Speaker 1: Cardinals and the Raiders in 100 years. In a hundred years.
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  Speaker 1: So Jim Harbaugh, of course, he must have come out
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  Speaker 1: and criticized Justin Herbert. Hell no! Of course not. Harbaugh
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  Speaker 1: called the offensive struggles just growing pains. Shouldn't you have
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  Speaker 1: worked out the kinks, I don't know, during training camp?
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  Speaker 1: He called them growing pains. He added, I wouldn't change
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  Speaker 1: anything about Justin. Close quote. So that is a good
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  Speaker 1: jumping off point. Let us discuss the question. Why is
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  Speaker 1: Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert so offended by a perfectly legitimate
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  Speaker 1: leadership question? It wasn't out of bounds at all. It
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  Speaker 1: was perfectly fine. So I've got Gorilla Glue, music composer,
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  Speaker 1: and jujitsu. And we'll put all of these together, and
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  Speaker 1: we are going to blow a snot rocket is what
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  Speaker 1: we're going to do. Big, giant piece of mucus just
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  Speaker 1: flying in the air everywhere. <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>
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  Speaker 1: We'll clean that up in post. So Justin Herbert reacted
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  Speaker 1: like this was not some kind of press conference. It
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  Speaker 1: was a dental appointment. And the dentist found the bad
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  Speaker 1: tooth and said, does this hurt? Yes. Yes. Apparently it
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  Speaker 1: does hurt. The Chargers are absolutely discombobulated at this point.
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  Speaker 1: They are bedraggled. And Justin Herbert is playing quarterback like
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  Speaker 1: you would expect a Madison B. groupie who wandered onto
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  Speaker 1: the field without a backstage pass how did you get
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  Speaker 1: out here you're not supposed to be playing quarterback yeah
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  Speaker 1: but i'm a groupie of madison beer i liked her
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  Speaker 1: so much i'm gonna marry her really Herbert, for better
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  Speaker 1: or worse, if he was a food dish, he would
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  Speaker 1: be tapioca pudding. That's what he is. Soft and smooth
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  Speaker 1: and boring. So Jim Harbaugh always, always talks about Justin
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  Speaker 1: Herbert like a kindergarten teacher describing the quiet kid that
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  Speaker 1: sits in the back of class. Justin is doing just
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  Speaker 1: wonderfully in class. Please stop asking about the gorilla glue
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  Speaker 1: that he likes to eat. Don't ask about that. Come on.
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  Speaker 1: So it makes you wonder if Herbert cannot be criticized,
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  Speaker 1: that he's so soft that you cannot criticize him. Common
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  Speaker 1: sense would tell us that he deserves criticism, that there
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  Speaker 1: should be some kind of internal criticism, checks and balances,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: for the way that the offense is played, and he's
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback and all that stuff. At some point,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: The HPP has to end. The Herbert Protection Program has
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: to end. The coaches have changed. The personnel has changed.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: The excuses have changed. But the alibi, the Justin Herbert
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: alibi never changes. You keep doing the same thing. You
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: can't continue to keep relocating the blame to a different
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: zip code. Every September. It's fascinating. He's apparently done nothing
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: wrong ever. And after years and years of the bubble wrap,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: the quarterback at some point here has to arrive without
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: the packing peanuts, without the packing peanuts. Now, page two,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: we now go to a true crime thriller in the
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: state of Florida. That is where former Pittsburgh Steeler, And
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Raider legend Antonio Brown. Remember the feet? What's wrong with
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: your feet, Antonio? What's wrong with the feet? What's wrong
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: with your helmet, Antonio? Well, the former NFL star Antonio
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Brown is planning to accept a plea deal that will
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: reduce charges in his attempted murder case. You might remember
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: that Antonio Brown, who made his bacon... In Pittsburgh, he's
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: in a whole lot of trouble, but apparently not anymore.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: He's scheduled to appear in court September 30th. That is
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: the end of the month here, where his attorney says
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: he will receive probation instead of prison time. Now, Brown
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: originally pleaded not guilty to second-degree attempted murder. Second-degree attempted murder.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: which carries up to 30 years at the Gray Bar Hotel. However,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: that's not the problem because nobody typically gets the maximum sentence.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: The minimum mandatory sentence was 20 years. So Brown was
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: facing 20 years, which is a long-ass time in the
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: big house there with the bars, the big house with
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the bars. So the case stems from that altercation in
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: 2025 where Brown allegedly fired a gun during a confrontation.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Do we still have to say allegedly? I mean, there's
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: video of it. The lawyers say we have to say allegedly.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: So allegedly. The question, does the Antonio Brown plea deal
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: pass the smell test? Yes, it actually passes the smell
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: test like a nice scented candle. It's flavored sweetheart. The
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: reason it's flavored sweetheart is because this is, I think
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: you can agree, you're nodding your head, yes, a sweetheart deal.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: From what I've heard, the prosecution has a gaggle of
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: crystal clear cell phone video of Antonio Brown shootings. Said gun.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: That's the word there. Supposedly that's bouncing around the interweb. Now,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Florida's got the stand your ground law, and that was
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: going to be his defense. However, if you know about
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: a jury trial, the jury trial is a toss-up. It's
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: too much or not enough. Could go either way, yes
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: or no. So they ended up working this out, and
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: he ends up getting probation. And rather than face decades
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: in prison if the jury ends up going the wrong way.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: So it's not unreasonable. It's a sweetheart deal. It is
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: crazy considering the fact that Antonio Brown's on video doing
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the thing he's accused of. And they've got many angles
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: of it. He also spent six months on the lam
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: eating Dubai chocolates in Dubai. In Dubai as a fugitive
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: hanging out in the Middle East before he was brought back,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: extraditioned back to the United States. But suddenly, out of nowhere,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the alleged victim decided, I'm going to forgive you, Antonio Brown.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I'm going to forgive you. refusing to participate in the prosecution.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: And Antonio Brown also, he issued a statement saying he's
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: forgiven Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown says he holds no hatred,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: which tells you he had nothing to do with that,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: most likely, most likely. And you know what all this
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: sounds like? You know what it sounds like. The great
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Randy Moss back in the day, straight cash homie, straight
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: cash homie. So this alleged victim, it is more likely
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: than not, became a music composer. Really, a music composer. Yeah,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: a music composer. Yeah, creating original music by shaping melodies
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: and harmonies and rhythms and structure. And he picked up
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: a handful of C-notes from Antonio Brown. So this guy
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: became a composer, and he's mastered the C-note game, thanks
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: to Antonio Brown. So that is the sausage-making of the
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: criminal justice system in the United States. It's pay-to-play is
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: what it is. And if you've got enough money, and
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: you can... Make your problems go away. You're going to
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: use your money and make your problems go away. And
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: this becomes another wild chapter in the saga of Antonio Brown, post-NFL. Although,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: will he ever be able to top the tossing of
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the gummy phalluses? Nothing can top that, right? Nothing can
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: top that. All right, final point. To Cleveland we go.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: The mistake by the lake where they're still rambling, rambling,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: rambling in northern Ohio. And Deshaun Watson. That's right, he's back!
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, as the Browns get ready to play their
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: first home game of the regular season against Carolina. Deshaun
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Watson says he is, quote, ready for support from the
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Browns backers. As Cleveland gets ready for their home opener,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: that would be his first regular season home start in
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: nearly two years. Watson, in his media availability, says he
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: wants to move past the fan controversy. He said, quote,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I don't ever try to go to war or go
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: at war with the fans, close quote. Again, Deshaun Watson said,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I don't ever try to go to war with the fans,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: close quote. All right, so that is what's the money
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: quote in this, and we're going to play off the
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: money quote. So the question, Deshaun Watson says he doesn't
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: want to go to war with Browns fans. So how
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: does that strike you? How does that strike you? So
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is, I'm going to write down a capital S,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: capital S, made it capital, Schmendrick. That's the word. My
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: word is Schmendrick. He's trying to sell amnesia by the
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: pound to the pound. The dog pound. He called the customers,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, disrespectful. And now he wants them
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: to enthusiastically go into his store and shop and have
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: a grand time. Watson's relationship with the Brown fans. It's
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: like a bad marriage, what's going on between Watson and
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: the Browns fans, where one spouse announces, listen, great news.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I've decided we're fine. Well, the other spouse doesn't agree
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: with it, but you've decided we're fine. So Watson has
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: gone from quarterback rehab, right? Quarterback rehab. And apparently... Calling
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: them disrespectful was just like a UN peacekeeping mission by
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Watson when he called the Browns fans disrespectful. Using my
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Mallard decoder ring, not to be confused with Mallard math,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: which Nick and Berkeley uses, my Mallard decoder ring, we're
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: past that, which is a quote Deshaun gave, we're past that.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: That is jock speak for please stop bringing up what
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I said. I know I said it. We're past that.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: There's also a term called gaslighting, right? So after everything
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: that's happened, Watson thinks one above average half, one fluky half,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: in Tampa, which also had a lightning weather delay, and
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Cleveland is suddenly kumbaya, and they're roasting marshmallows over an
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: open flame. I tell you right now, this is not
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: a feel-good sports movie. It is not. It's a psychological
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: horror film with the dog pound providing the soundtrack. And
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I will guarantee you the first time the Browns go
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: three and out, the Deshaun Watson Marching and Chowder Society
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: will pivot to torches and pitchforks. guaranteed and i'm never
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: wrong about these things i'm never wrong about these things
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: be sure to catch live editions of the ben maller
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: show weekdays at 2 a.m eastern 11 p.m pacific.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Time to roll.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in militia speaking of winners can you handle more
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: maller mayhem ladies and gentlemen.
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: It's time now for step back.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Benny versus the pennies But first, the payoff on the
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Insta trivia. The Marlins' Sandy Alcantara leads Major League Baseball
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: in innings pitched and picked up a save this week.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Blank is the only pitcher to lead baseball in innings
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: pitched for a season and save at least a game
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: this That same regular season. So that is the question.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: And I'll do a couple of answers and then get
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: right to Benny versus Benny. And let's see. Page down.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: We've got Madison Bumgardner from Eke in Roseville, Minnesota. Eric
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Hetzel from ALF, the Alien O'Piner.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Mr.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Playoff, Chokejob, Clayton Kershaw from JT, the Wingman. Bernie Frato
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: from Analog Al. Let's see here. You are Arthur Guinness,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: who would have been 301 years old today. Do you
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: have an answer, Lorenz? Not Al Hrabowski.
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: Bryce Young.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: No, the correct answer is Phil Necro, N-I-E-K-R-O in 1978.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Now to Benny versus the Penny. Let's get to it.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Falcons and Packers, week two of the NFL. Atlanta 0-2,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: the Packers 1-1. We'll give you the rundown on how
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Benny versus the Penny did last week, tomorrow. We don't
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: have a lot of time right now. Packers a four-and-a-half
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: point favorite. The line, courtesy of our friends at DraftKings, Packers'
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: four-and-a-half-point favorite. It's on Amazon with Al Michaels and Herbie
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: and his annoying dog, Peter. And the wise guys, the Sharps,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: are leaning towards Atlanta. There's a stronger market there. The
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: public likes Green Bay, so there is a split here.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: No weather to speak of that's negative at Lambeau Field.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Temperatures in the 60s, mild temperatures there. in the not-so-frozen tundra.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: The pick, I'm going to take the Atlanta Falcons in
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: this game. It's a medium-level play here with the Atlanta Falcons.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: The main reason is the Falcons are likely to actually
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: have a quarterback this week. Not a great one. They
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: just need an average quarterback. Michael Penix Jr. takes over.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Atlanta's first two games, they played shorthanded. Cooper Rush... should
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: be selling insurance. He should not be playing quarterback in
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: the NFL. They did not have an NFL caliber passing attack.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: It was embarrassing. Embarrassing. Penix doesn't have to be great.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: He just has to be mediocre is all he has
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: to be. Hadn't played in a while, so I'm not 100%
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: excited about that. The Falcons, I continue to say every week,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: we say the same thing with Bajon Robinson and Drake London.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: These guys, they've got a lot of playmakers there. Falcons
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: are seventh in rushing, which is... Something you've got to
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: lean into if you're Atlanta in this game, you would
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: think that Falcons will do that, try to shorten the
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: game there with the running game. And the Packers are
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: a mess. They are a dysfunctional bunch. They had to
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: beat the Jets in overtime, blew the lead to the Vikings.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Packers have converted 19% on third down. That is the
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: worst in the NFL. They're the worst rushing team in
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: the NFL. And, oh, by the way, they've got a
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: beat-up offensive line without two of their offensive linemen. They're
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: starting offensive linemen. Short week, played overtime. They lead the
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: NFL in penalties. The Packers are a mess. There's no
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: way I'm going to lay the points with the Green
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Bay Packers the way they played. Bottom line, Atlanta does
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: not need Michael Penix to be Chris Chandler or Matt
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Ryan or any of those guys. They just need him
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: to not be Cooper Rush. Play conservative, boring football, shorten
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: the game, and the Falcons will certainly cover the spread,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: if not win the game outright. And the penny likes!
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Koopaloop is the penny, the keeper of the penny.
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: The penny agrees with you, going with the Falcons.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, come on! This is ridiculous. Every freaking week here
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: with these island games. There it is, Benny.
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: We're in Green Bay right now.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, man. I am due to visit my brother who
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: lives in that area. So I guess I'll have to
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: wait till it gets really cold to go there. But yeah, Falcons,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: that's my pick. Falcons. Falcons! It's now time for... Time for.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Hurry, hurry, I can hardly wait.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Ask Ben. Twitter. Send us your questions on Twitter now.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: And away we go. It's Ask Ben. Your questions are
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: answers for the rest of the hour. Ben and friends,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: it's a little side hustle that we have here every
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: single Thursday. And now for the reading of the questions,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: the Koopa Loop.
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: If I could turn my mic on, that would help.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: We are going to start off with a question from Nimbot.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Nimbot. You always remember Nimbot's name. It's a very unique name.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: He's Nimbot.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: Who is the most famous person you have shared a
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: meal with?
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess, well, I don't know if she's got fame.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Lauren Sanchez, who's now married to Jeff Bezos of Amazon.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: She's kind of a big deal. But I've been lucky.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I've had meals with a lot of fame. For me,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: it was like Tommy Lasorda would be like, or Vin Scully,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: somebody like that. Those are the, in my life, those
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: are the greatest because they were people I looked up
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: to when I was growing up. So people like that.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: But one of my craziest meals, I sound like Pat
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: O'Brien name dropping here, but Tommy Heinsohn. He was a
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Celtic legend, and I had a meal with him. He
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: was great. He told all these old Celtic stories. I
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: wasn't a Celtic fan growing up or anything like that,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: but I love the old NBA stories. Lorena, most famous
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: person you've shared and broken bread with? It's got to
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: be you and Coop. That's it. That is a lie.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I think that's... Incorrect. I do not believe that at all.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Now, Coopaloop's now going to say, well, you know, 8
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: million Hollywood stars. Go ahead, Coop.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: I guess the obvious answer would have to be Jim Carrey.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Yeah. That's pretty good.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: That's hard to beat that for sure. Hard to beat that.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I saw a bunch of like Billy Crystal people. Billy
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Crystal's kind of a jerk at the Clipper game.
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: I never met Billy Crystal.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: He was a jerk. I'm sure he was having a
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: bad day. 17 times I ran into him.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: What's next here? What do we got?
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: Donkey Sausage would like to know.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Hi, Donkey.
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: Have you ever had braces?
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, I had braces. I hated them when I was
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: a kid, but my parents did put me in braces,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: and I had them cutting my gums. I remember multiple
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: times I'd have bloody gums like I got into a
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: fight because my gums were all bloody from the braces.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: What about you, Lorena?
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: That sounds horrible. No, I have a.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: No.
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 37:18
  Speaker 8: I don't have a bad smile, but you can definitely
• 37:20
  Speaker 8: tell I've never had braces.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: All right. Very good. What about you, Koopaloop? Braces?
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I've had them twice, actually, if you count Invisalign.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Did that work for you?
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: It did.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: I had braces my senior year of high school, and
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: then I never wore my retainer, so I needed... to
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: get Invisalign to fix them again.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Ah, gotcha. It happens. It does happen. It's Ask Ben.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Your questions are answers for the rest of the hour.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: And hashtag Ask Ben. What's next?
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: Kathy would like to know.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, is that Kathy in Madison?
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: I believe so.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: That's the Hey Mona woman. She's famous. Hey Mona.
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: She wants to know, Ginger or Marianne?
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, because I brought up, yeah, the Gilligan's Island. Yeah,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: more of a fan of Ginger. More a fan of Ginger.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: What about you, Lorena?
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: I've never watched it.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: You have no idea what that is.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: No.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Coop probably hasn't either. You guys are younger. Oh, no.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: I've watched Gilligan's Island all the time.
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: That's a really tough one.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they both have good qualities. Yes.
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: I think I'm going to go Marianne, but it's just by.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: It's a toss-up.
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Just by some hair or something like that.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I got you. All right. What is next? It's Ask Ben.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Your questions, our answers. This is good. We got a
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: little more time. We get some of these questions in.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I love this. This is great. All right. This is.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I understand this. Okay, so Neil
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: from Fall River.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, hi, Neil.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: And I guess this is a question just for you.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: It says, Ben, are you a fan of Westerns? And
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I get that part. That one makes sense to me.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: And then he says, comma, wagon train, rifleman, bonanza. Oh,
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: are those different Westerns?
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: So when I was a kid, I did like... I
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: did like Westerns. I feel like when I was a child,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I'm old, and there were mostly Westerns, and I'd have
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: to navigate that. And then I reached a point where
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I was tired of Westerns, and those they call them
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: spaghetti westerns i hated them so but i guess what
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: was that uh there was a tv show that we
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: used to watch with michael landon who died at a
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: young age but i forget the name of it it's
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: been so long but i used to watch that all
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: there was a drama it's on tv did pretty well
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: And I don't remember the name of it.
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: Bonanza?
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Was that it? Maybe that was it. Bonanza. Okay, there
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: you go. All right. Lorena, I guess that's just for me.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: What's next? What do we got?
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: This is a good one. I like this. Late night
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: drug tester would like to know. Hi, Mr.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Drug Tester.
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: Would you rather have a personal driver or chef?
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't mind driving. I would like to have
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: a chef. That would be great. I mean, I don't
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: mind cooking either, though. So it's not like I really
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: mind either one. But I guess I'd take a chef
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: because you can make more exotic things. What about you, Lorena?
• 40:15
  Speaker 8: Oh, it's so hard because I really do drive all
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: the time. And I feel like if I had someone
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: to drive me, I would be laid back and relaxed
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: so much. Oh, I would take the driver.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: All right, Coop, driver or chef?
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: Definitely the chef, absolutely.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: That's the right answer. You win, Coopaloop. Lorena, you lose. Sorry, Lorena.
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: That was a game.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Bad answer by you. Bad job.