Latest / The Breakfast Club / Best of full interview: Andrew Schulz Talks 'Life' Comedy Special, IVF Experience, Cancel Culture, Trump, KDot + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
- 0:02Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.
- 0:05Speaker 3: Morning, everybody, It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
- 0:09Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club, law La Rosa, it's here,
- 0:11Speaker 3: and we got a special guest.
- 0:12Speaker 2: In the building. He Ky Walker.
- 0:14Speaker 3: Hello, everybody, Andrews Shows, Ladies and gentlemen, welcome.
- 0:17Speaker 1: How's it going.
- 0:18Speaker 4: How you feeling?
- 0:19Speaker 1: I feel good, man, you know it's crazy.
- 0:21Speaker 3: I was talking to Charlemagne about you yesterday. I was like,
- 0:23Speaker 3: we've been doing the Breakfast Club so long. We got
- 0:26Speaker 3: a real opportunity to see different people grow.
- 0:29Speaker 4: And and you were one of them.
- 0:30Speaker 3: I was like, I remember andrew Shows starting off, and
- 0:33Speaker 3: in the fact I seen a couple of months ago
- 0:35Speaker 3: that you were.
- 0:36Speaker 4: You sold out the Garden a couple of times.
- 0:37Speaker 1: And had your dad with you, so light work.
- 0:39Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 0:39Speaker 1: I was like, so, how does that feel that girlfriend?
- 0:41Speaker 3: We actually seen the grind, so people can't just say
- 0:43Speaker 3: it was overnight because it's white.
- 0:44Speaker 4: No, we actually seen the grind.
- 0:46Speaker 5: It was it was it was a while. I remember
- 0:48Speaker 5: the first time I came to the Breakfast Club. I
- 0:50Speaker 5: think Charlomagne walked out there five minutes.
- 0:52Speaker 4: I was so excited.
- 0:56Speaker 1: I was like, hey, man, come on show you. He
- 0:57Speaker 1: was like, yah, I got you, bro. He comes and
- 0:59Speaker 1: he starts to show you. I got my man. Shoulds here?
- 1:01Speaker 1: All right, I'll take it away, and then he just left.
- 1:04Speaker 2: But it was still a great interview with this one.
- 1:09Speaker 6: I'm gonna sit here and I'm gonna talk, but I'm like,
- 1:11Speaker 6: I'm more interested to hear what Lauren.
- 1:13Speaker 2: And that was my guy.
- 1:15Speaker 7: I was telling my friend.
- 1:16Speaker 8: I was like, it was like, what that's Charlot make homie,
- 1:18Speaker 8: I said, I promise you he's gonna be like.
- 1:19Speaker 7: I'm not going to talk. I want to hear what
- 1:21Speaker 7: y'all have to Because.
- 1:22Speaker 2: I talked, I know what he thinks about things, but
- 1:24Speaker 2: I want.
- 1:24Speaker 1: To talk every week.
- 1:25Speaker 2: Yes, I'm more interested to he with with.
- 1:27Speaker 1: You'll think he's gonna chime.
- 1:28Speaker 5: And you'll see once he gets a little spicy, he
- 1:32Speaker 5: gets a little spicy, he'll.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Be in there.
- 1:34Speaker 4: So I want.
- 1:34Speaker 5: I want to tell man, you had all of us
- 1:35Speaker 5: thinking that that poor girl's family died.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Yeah, Port Williams. I was terrifying.
- 1:43Speaker 5: He's looking at this note and then I see her
- 1:45Speaker 5: looking at the note and then I'm like, Damn, somebody
- 1:48Speaker 5: died and the only thing I'm thinking is is she
- 1:49Speaker 5: gonna stop the interview? You know what I mean, like, yeah,
- 1:54Speaker 5: there's this moment where you're like, does she care so
- 1:55Speaker 5: much about fame?
- 1:56Speaker 1: She's like, well, they are already dead. They ain't gonna
- 1:58Speaker 1: be bored.
- 2:02Speaker 8: She started to get teary eye, and the way she
- 2:04Speaker 8: looked at her sister, I thought somebody died too, And
- 2:06Speaker 8: I'm like, ship, all I was.
- 2:07Speaker 7: Thinking is weird getting exclusive.
- 2:11Speaker 8: Works a major exclusive right here that I'm like, let
- 2:19Speaker 8: me see.
- 2:19Speaker 7: What it said because I need to anchor in his headline.
- 2:22Speaker 2: But see that's the TMV brain from Yeah.
- 2:25Speaker 7: And I'm so bad and I love sorry for not
- 2:27Speaker 7: gonna everybody's.
- 2:28Speaker 4: Good, I said, I know Charlamage, even though he's an asshole.
- 2:30Speaker 3: If that would happen, he would have stopped the interview and
- 2:31Speaker 3: be like, hey, I need you to go outside. I
- 2:33Speaker 3: know him for that that. I knew it would have
- 2:35Speaker 3: been some type of joke. I just don't know how
- 2:37Speaker 3: far he was gonna go.
- 2:38Speaker 6: You know, It's funny when Schutz walked in, Shultz looked
- 2:39Speaker 6: at that couch and he was like, Yo, that's the
- 2:42Speaker 6: whole couch, big.
- 2:43Speaker 1: D I didn't know that.
- 2:47Speaker 5: The couches the I mean, I remember we were on
- 2:49Speaker 5: Brilliant Idiots when we first saw that and uh yo,
- 2:52Speaker 5: oh my god, and said, uh so, why is she
- 2:56Speaker 5: called the lift?
- 2:57Speaker 1: She should you know she why didn't she call a
- 3:00Speaker 1: she called a forklift? And uh and then she came on.
- 3:09Speaker 1: It was really funny, like I was.
- 3:10Speaker 5: Watching the episode and she's quite endearing. She's just like
- 3:13Speaker 5: really really endearing voice.
- 3:15Speaker 1: But when you guys moved.
- 3:16Speaker 5: The couch up and I walked in, I was like, oh,
- 3:18Speaker 5: that's the famous couch and I didn't know that there
- 3:20Speaker 5: are three pieces.
- 3:23Speaker 1: One part semi circle out, so you know, we pulled
- 3:25Speaker 1: the whole thing up. Yeah, she filled that thing out.
- 3:27Speaker 5: There's no way she's making into Hanna Civic, Like there's
- 3:30Speaker 5: no way she said.
- 3:31Speaker 7: She could get into PC cruiser.
- 3:33Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, maybe God bless her.
- 3:38Speaker 4: I wanted to know.
- 3:39Speaker 3: You know, with this day and age with comedy, right,
- 3:41Speaker 3: we've recently seen Damion Wade say he's not going back
- 3:43Speaker 3: on the road because they will cancel you for everything.
- 3:46Speaker 3: But you are somebody that don't give a f what
- 3:49Speaker 3: you say, what people think, and why is that?
- 3:51Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know, that's a good. That's a good Uh.
- 3:53Speaker 1: I don't know why.
- 3:54Speaker 5: I don't really care, but I think that the days
- 3:57Speaker 5: of canceling or done like I think I think it's changed,
- 4:00Speaker 5: which I think they kind of like pendulum is swung,
- 4:01Speaker 5: and I think people kind of have a sense of
- 4:03Speaker 5: humor now or they feel like less effective and there's
- 4:06Speaker 5: their ability to cancel.
- 4:08Speaker 6: I think you don't care because you threw what could
- 4:11Speaker 6: have been a hail Mary, or it could have been
- 4:13Speaker 6: a well coordinated play. It turned out to be a
- 4:15Speaker 6: well quarter because when Hollywood there was a period and
- 4:19Speaker 6: I remember this vividly.
- 4:21Speaker 2: One time Andrew comes in the studio.
- 4:22Speaker 6: And Andrew was saying how his agent told him that
- 4:25Speaker 6: Hollywood does not want white straight.
- 4:28Speaker 4: They tried to gave me white straight male.
- 4:30Speaker 8: So they me, they gave you, They gave me every
- 4:34Speaker 8: day with me to try dating.
- 4:38Speaker 1: They gave me and they made my character gay film. Yeah,
- 4:43Speaker 1: it was great. Say what ahead what do you mean?
- 4:47Speaker 8: Because you know it's always been that thing of like
- 4:49Speaker 8: that happens to black men and that's.
- 4:50Speaker 5: How you like, that's just like that's just like the
- 4:55Speaker 5: lowest hanging through.
- 4:56Speaker 1: I don't think the dress ship is about being gay.
- 4:58Speaker 5: I just think that, like it's it's white people writing
- 5:01Speaker 5: scripts that like don't have any friends that aren't white.
- 5:03Speaker 5: So then when they see black people, they see masculinity, right,
- 5:06Speaker 5: like this is there, like like what is it? Unconscious
- 5:10Speaker 5: like bias? Right, So they see black dudes like, oh,
- 5:12Speaker 5: that's the most masculine thing. So like, what's the funniest
- 5:15Speaker 5: thing to see the most mascul masculin thing in a dress?
- 5:18Speaker 5: Like to see the rock and address is funny, you know?
- 5:21Speaker 5: So I think that's really it's like Arnold Schwarzenegger. I
- 5:23Speaker 5: think they did it to him.
- 5:24Speaker 1: Too, because you just see this big, buff guy in
- 5:27Speaker 1: a dress. But yeah, they I remember the guy who.
- 5:31Speaker 1: I remember the guy who it was his show. He
- 5:33Speaker 1: put me in the show Paul Riser. Remember Paul Riser?
- 5:36Speaker 1: He I mean he was making a million dollars an
- 5:38Speaker 1: episode on his show on sitcom back in the day.
- 5:41Speaker 1: You remember the fuck I'm talking about. He was like
- 5:43Speaker 1: one of the biggest sitcoms starts.
- 5:44Speaker 5: He's a great guy, and we were doing the show
- 5:47Speaker 5: I think that ended up on Hulu and he called me.
- 5:50Speaker 5: He's like, listen, man, you know there's a lot of
- 5:52Speaker 5: white people on the show that took place in the seventies.
- 5:54Speaker 1: It was about the Johnny Carson Show.
- 5:56Speaker 5: He's like two weeks before you start feeling. He's like,
- 5:58Speaker 5: hey man, we gotta make a character gay. And I
- 6:02Speaker 5: was like, what do you what do you mean by that?
- 6:04Speaker 1: How this is before this? Before Yeah? So I was
- 6:10Speaker 1: he was like how. I was like, how gay? And
- 6:12Speaker 1: he's uh he'.
- 6:13Speaker 5: I was like, why do we have to make it gay.
- 6:15Speaker 5: He's like, it's just a lot of white people on
- 6:17Speaker 5: the shows. We got to find a way to mix
- 6:18Speaker 5: it up. They made one guy crippled.
- 6:20Speaker 1: That was the most hilarious. I don't know, but it.
- 6:23Speaker 5: Was like they couldn't make us all gay, So like
- 6:25Speaker 5: one guy gotta be crippled.
- 6:26Speaker 1: And I was like, why don't you ask.
- 6:30Speaker 6: I better be limping around this ship than butt, you know,
- 6:34Speaker 6: so and.
- 6:42Speaker 7: So guy.
- 6:48Speaker 5: So so yeah, so they made it was crazy, like
- 6:51Speaker 5: I had to change one of the scripts.
- 6:52Speaker 1: It was to one of the guys.
- 6:53Speaker 4: It got too gay. They want.
- 6:57Speaker 1: They want me to get gang bangs like they they had.
- 7:01Speaker 1: So they had like this one script. I got it
- 7:03Speaker 1: on the day.
- 7:04Speaker 5: They're like, yeah, it'd be really funny if you were
- 7:05Speaker 5: like walking into this room there's three guys behind you,
- 7:08Speaker 5: And I was like, man, let me tell you what's not.
- 7:12Speaker 1: Y'all taking this DYA ship too far?
- 7:14Speaker 7: I want you to get the train.
- 7:16Speaker 1: It was and it was like in the seventies or
- 7:18Speaker 1: like it was like aids, you know what.
- 7:22Speaker 5: There was no protection for that ship and now we
- 7:24Speaker 5: got three different guys fallowed.
- 7:26Speaker 1: Me into a bedroom.
- 7:27Speaker 2: So that was in the script.
- 7:27Speaker 1: But I was in the script and I was like,
- 7:29Speaker 1: I ain't doing that ship.
- 7:29Speaker 2: I was like, so what did you do?
- 7:33Speaker 1: There's a scene where apparently like my hands are on
- 7:36Speaker 1: the wall, and.
- 7:37Speaker 5: Then like Johnny, yeah, but nothing. I don't do anything.
- 7:42Speaker 5: But the audience is gay for thinking about it, y'all.
- 7:48Speaker 1: I don't my hands on the wall.
- 7:49Speaker 6: But all I was simply saying was there was a
- 7:52Speaker 6: point where Andrew was like, look, I'm gonna go out
- 7:54Speaker 6: on my own terms.
- 7:55Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 7:56Speaker 6: So if everybody's going this way, I'm gonna make the
- 7:58Speaker 6: kind of comedy I wanted me and if it works,
- 8:00Speaker 6: it works.
- 8:01Speaker 2: If it doesn't, it doesn't. But it ended up working.
- 8:03Speaker 1: I did.
- 8:04Speaker 5: My thing was like I saw a lot of people
- 8:05Speaker 5: kind of watering down their shit for what the TV
- 8:08Speaker 5: networks were putting on and I got empathy for the
- 8:12Speaker 5: people that work at the networks too, Like you got
- 8:14Speaker 5: a kid who's in private school, you want to build
- 8:16Speaker 5: a pool at your house or whatever. You're not trying
- 8:18Speaker 5: to lose your job because I want to make some
- 8:19Speaker 5: crazy joke. So but it felt water down, and I
- 8:22Speaker 5: didn't want to change the comedy. So I was like,
- 8:24Speaker 5: where can I put out the comedy? And honestly, like
- 8:27Speaker 5: having the pod with Charlott Mane and we're putting out
- 8:29Speaker 5: like brilliant idiot stuff and we're saying crazy jokes and
- 8:32Speaker 5: like people really seem to like it, and I was like,
- 8:34Speaker 5: I think there's an appetite for this shit online.
- 8:37Speaker 1: I saw your.
- 8:37Speaker 5: Guys' success, Like just seeing your Guys show kill It
- 8:40Speaker 5: on YouTube, it just kind of reminded me like people
- 8:43Speaker 5: are consuming stuff on YouTube, They're consuming high quality content,
- 8:47Speaker 5: long form. You know what if we just started putting
- 8:49Speaker 5: a stand upbout there, and I think knowing that there
- 8:51Speaker 5: was this place for it made me feel way more confident.
- 8:54Speaker 5: I didn't really care if it was like on a network.
- 8:56Speaker 5: I just wanted to do the comedy. I want to
- 8:58Speaker 5: do it.
- 8:58Speaker 1: And then it worked.
- 8:59Speaker 6: Man, that was risky because you was giving away your
- 9:02Speaker 6: bread and butter though, because you're giving up parts of
- 9:04Speaker 6: your stand up special.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true.
- 9:06Speaker 5: But at the same time, it's like I was writing
- 9:09Speaker 5: so much, you know, back then, because I had to
- 9:12Speaker 5: go back to the same markets every single year. I
- 9:13Speaker 5: had to go back to all many every single year.
- 9:15Speaker 5: So I didn't want to do the same jokes from
- 9:16Speaker 5: last year, you know, like people like that's something like
- 9:20Speaker 5: early on, I was like, I'm not gonna waste people's money,
- 9:23Speaker 5: you know, every tour. I was like, people work hard,
- 9:25Speaker 5: they got to get a babysitter, like they got it's
- 9:27Speaker 5: a whole night, it's dinner.
- 9:28Speaker 1: It's expensive to come out to a show.
- 9:30Speaker 5: So I was like, this got to be the best
- 9:31Speaker 5: show that they see. At least we had an attempt to
- 9:33Speaker 5: make it. So I would have a new set, and
- 9:35Speaker 5: then what was I doing for the old set? And
- 9:37Speaker 5: I put that ship out there, and like the jokes
- 9:38Speaker 5: would start to go over and I was saying, some
- 9:40Speaker 5: wild ship and.
- 9:41Speaker 4: You pissed a lot of people off, and you ever
- 9:43Speaker 4: got threatened?
- 9:44Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Diddy, but you you would had a
- 9:50Speaker 3: lot of people were thinking about when he said that,
- 9:54Speaker 3: when you hear that name, what comes out?
- 9:56Speaker 5: Like, what do you think the baby behind behind you?
- 9:59Speaker 5: I love how much you guys to embraced white boyfriend.
- 10:01Speaker 5: It makes me so happy, Like that's why you guys
- 10:04Speaker 5: are you guys are the black pioneers A white boyfriend
- 10:06Speaker 5: like I feel and you know what you know? And
- 10:11Speaker 5: the way he goes too far like you know, white
- 10:13Speaker 5: boyfriend is no, I'm please, just like the straight guys
- 10:16Speaker 5: making gay jokes with each other.
- 10:17Speaker 8: Oh okay, that my old job. Yeah that is very
- 10:20Speaker 8: white exactly.
- 10:20Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:21Speaker 2: Yeah, so we just call that gay.
- 10:24Speaker 1: Well, we call white boyfriend because it's not gay. It's
- 10:26Speaker 1: two straight guys doing it. Okay, yeah, but once there's
- 10:29Speaker 1: a gay guy involved, then it becomes gay. No.
- 10:32Speaker 8: So the white boyfriend I experienced at my last job,
- 10:34Speaker 8: there would be a gay guy involved and it still
- 10:35Speaker 8: was just oh, this is a great this is funn Yeah.
- 10:38Speaker 1: Okay, but that's what they said in the office. But
- 10:39Speaker 1: when they left, they were like, yo, they're gay for
- 10:41Speaker 1: doing that.
- 10:41Speaker 7: Ship.
- 10:42Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that's it.
- 10:43Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 10:44Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:44Speaker 7: It was my first time seeing it. I was like wow,
- 10:46Speaker 7: and you didn't.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Know what to think, right, Yeah, yeah, so this.
- 10:49Speaker 5: Is like classic you know when white dues hang out
- 10:51Speaker 5: that it's all gay jokes.
- 10:53Speaker 1: Okay and Mexican shout of Mexican. Mexican got good gay.
- 10:56Speaker 6: Oh few definitely got a good Remember on training day
- 10:59Speaker 6: with a dude was like, you've had your ship pushed in?
- 11:01Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that seemed like rape. I don't know if
- 11:06Speaker 1: he was.
- 11:07Speaker 6: Joking about that is like a I didn't understand why
- 11:11Speaker 6: we wanted that.
- 11:11Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you want him to go go get an animal, bro?
- 11:13Speaker 1: Yeah you want to clean that out, you know what
- 11:15Speaker 1: I mean? So okay, So Mexican gay jokes.
- 11:18Speaker 5: No, they never want to eat the corn the long way.
- 11:24Speaker 8: That usually you know on the side.
- 11:28Speaker 1: But if you haven't seen a dude the long way,
- 11:32Speaker 1: that's crazy.
- 11:32Speaker 7: Finished my shot.
- 11:35Speaker 3: But I was asking have you got threatened to a
- 11:37Speaker 3: point where he was like I got a chill out
- 11:38Speaker 3: because you anybody anyhow I got I got punched on stage.
- 11:41Speaker 1: I used to get thrown at me.
- 11:43Speaker 2: Fight uh not I mean box?
- 11:47Speaker 5: Yeah, I used to box like I wasn't like but
- 11:49Speaker 5: I'm not like something like trying to fight everybody.
- 11:51Speaker 7: Tough guy at all, but box and pilates.
- 11:53Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go that's yeah, yeah, if we're organized
- 11:56Speaker 5: and we're in a ring, I'll probably fuck you up
- 11:58Speaker 5: from the street and ship.
- 11:59Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't really want.
- 12:00Speaker 5: To go do all that, but but yeah, yeah, I
- 12:03Speaker 5: used to go through through that kind of stuff all
- 12:04Speaker 5: the time, but I just wasn't really funny enough back then.
- 12:07Speaker 5: That's the way, you know, like you have the ideas,
- 12:09Speaker 5: you just don't got the skills.
- 12:10Speaker 2: To execute it.
- 12:10Speaker 1: It's not silly enough yet.
- 12:12Speaker 5: And then eventually I think you could develop the skills
- 12:14Speaker 5: and then you could say even wilder jokes but in
- 12:16Speaker 5: a way where people find it kind of funny and sow,
- 12:18Speaker 5: that's something I.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Never heard you say. I've never heard you say you
- 12:20Speaker 2: didn't feel like he was funny enough back then, as.
- 12:22Speaker 5: I look back, As I look back, like you know,
- 12:24Speaker 5: like there was I was. I had funny jokes, but
- 12:27Speaker 5: I also just didn't have the skills to execute some
- 12:29Speaker 5: other ones. So it would just be I just say
- 12:32Speaker 5: some wild shit and I'm like, yeah, this is funny,
- 12:34Speaker 5: and then you know, sometimes the jokes are work, and
- 12:36Speaker 5: then sometimes they just really wouldn't work. But I feel
- 12:38Speaker 5: like now I'm getting close to a point where even
- 12:41Speaker 5: if somebody hates the topic I'm talking about, I can
- 12:44Speaker 5: make it funny enough where they could they could laugh
- 12:47Speaker 5: at it.
- 12:47Speaker 8: You talked about the censorship era being good for comedy
- 12:50Speaker 8: because it set like certain boundaries.
- 12:51Speaker 7: Like what not to do.
- 12:52Speaker 1: Yeah, it got to be naughty.
- 12:53Speaker 8: Yeah, But so having those boundaries and then you you
- 12:56Speaker 8: look back at your old tape, you weren't as funny,
- 12:58Speaker 8: so you had to develop so you have like there's
- 12:59Speaker 8: a whole system behind you of like like you sit
- 13:02Speaker 8: and watch your highlight tapes and you use all of
- 13:04Speaker 8: that to Yeah.
- 13:04Speaker 1: I also think censorship like in a weird way.
- 13:06Speaker 5: I don't believe in censorship, but the fact that it
- 13:09Speaker 5: exists makes you have to be sharper, you know, like
- 13:14Speaker 5: if you could we're in the air, if you could
- 13:16Speaker 5: say anything right now, and comedy will probably get a
- 13:19Speaker 5: little bit more like an absurdist and a reverend because
- 13:22Speaker 5: you could say anything.
- 13:23Speaker 1: So there's nothing that's like too edgy. Does that make sense?
- 13:26Speaker 5: Yeah, So now comedy usually gets like a little like
- 13:28Speaker 5: weird and out there, you know, like.
- 13:30Speaker 1: Remember that, remember Zach Alafanakus remember him? Yeah first, yeah, yeah, Yeah,
- 13:36Speaker 1: Zach's great.
- 13:37Speaker 5: That type type of comedy where it's not like here's
- 13:40Speaker 5: a political take, but it's more like he's.
- 13:42Speaker 1: A character and it's a little weird.
- 13:43Speaker 5: That type type of comedy gets popular when you could
- 13:46Speaker 5: say anything, and then when you know, censorship comes back.
- 13:50Speaker 5: Usually the guys like a Chris Rock, you know, I mean,
- 13:54Speaker 5: just these like historic figures.
- 13:56Speaker 6: But that's why I think well crafted just that's why
- 13:58Speaker 6: the Life Specialist actually special, because well crafted jokes have
- 14:03Speaker 6: to make a comeback now because we live in the
- 14:05Speaker 6: world where everybody just says, in your watch it, but
- 14:07Speaker 6: what's the what's the joke?
- 14:09Speaker 2: How are you packaging?
- 14:10Speaker 1: Agree?
- 14:10Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 14:11Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, And people will give you that liberty like
- 14:13Speaker 5: if if it's good, if the joke is good, they'll
- 14:16Speaker 5: let you rock with it, even if they don't like
- 14:17Speaker 5: the topic or even the opinion. They you know, they're
- 14:21Speaker 5: they're like, okay, I know what you're trying to say. Also,
- 14:23Speaker 5: the Life one is just like so it's so personal
- 14:28Speaker 5: and it's so vulnerable. I think I get a little
- 14:30Speaker 5: leeway with.
- 14:30Speaker 1: The other ship.
- 14:31Speaker 7: I had to watch. I had to watch it twice.
- 14:35Speaker 8: No, I don't like celebrate it, but okay, so the
- 14:38Speaker 8: first time I watched it, maybe because it was so personal,
- 14:40Speaker 8: like I was like, Okay, where's the fun Like I
- 14:42Speaker 8: wasn't laughing at everything. Yeah, but it was because I
- 14:45Speaker 8: was trying to follow the story and I'm like, wait,
- 14:47Speaker 8: like low key you like that was that had to
- 14:49Speaker 8: be tough for you. And then I went back again
- 14:51Speaker 8: and I watched it and it was funny and I
- 14:53Speaker 8: was like okay, but I'm like, I don't know why
- 14:55Speaker 8: I had I've never had to do that.
- 14:57Speaker 1: Well. Listen, the fact that you watch it twice, I
- 14:59Speaker 1: mean that to me is great. And you know, whatever
- 15:02Speaker 1: you get out of it, that's awesome.
- 15:03Speaker 2: Did you feel a little bit retarded that you didn't
- 15:05Speaker 2: get it the first time?
- 15:06Speaker 7: It wasn't that I didn't get it.
- 15:08Speaker 8: I think when I because that was my first time
- 15:09Speaker 8: ever seeing you do stand up, and I've heard so
- 15:12Speaker 8: much about you, I think I instantly just thought I
- 15:14Speaker 8: was going to be like, oh my god, but I
- 15:16Speaker 8: was like, no, wait, he y'all couldn't have a baby,
- 15:19Speaker 8: and there's all this stuff that was there. I think
- 15:22Speaker 8: my empathy for you came in and I didn't find
- 15:25Speaker 8: it funny. And then the second time the empathy was
- 15:27Speaker 8: removed and I'm like, oh, he's funny. But yeah, I
- 15:31Speaker 8: didn't get it though, But I've never I brought that
- 15:33Speaker 8: up because I'm wondering, like, is there is that on purpose?
- 15:36Speaker 5: Well, there's a there's an interesting thing that like, so
- 15:38Speaker 5: the beginning of the special, I say we had the
- 15:40Speaker 5: baby specifically for that reason is that I felt like
- 15:45Speaker 5: the audience would be too concerned to destroy. So if
- 15:50Speaker 5: you paid attention to the beginning, you might have felt better.
- 15:55Speaker 8: Well, I did hear that in the beginning, and I
- 15:57Speaker 8: watched you a brilliant idiot, so I thought you had
- 15:58Speaker 8: the baby, but I think it just felt so heavy
- 16:00Speaker 8: because you don't necessarily hear men. And you talked about
- 16:03Speaker 8: this in the special, talking about, okay, we couldn't have
- 16:06Speaker 8: the baby because.
- 16:07Speaker 7: It was my fault, like you know what I mean.
- 16:08Speaker 8: Like, and I'm like, he's laughing and joking, but like,
- 16:11Speaker 8: as a man, I can't that.
- 16:12Speaker 7: Probably it probably still strokes your ego a little bit
- 16:14Speaker 7: when you talk.
- 16:15Speaker 1: About honestly know, like it's it's weird.
- 16:18Speaker 5: At first, I dealt with it, right, like, so my sperm,
- 16:20Speaker 5: my sperm doesn't swim.
- 16:21Speaker 1: That's like the issue that I talk And.
- 16:23Speaker 7: There I heard the joke that tailor dropped to.
- 16:25Speaker 1: What Taylor killed me?
- 16:26Speaker 5: She said yeah, because we I beat her in a race.
- 16:29Speaker 5: And then I was saying something to her. She was like, yeah,
- 16:31Speaker 5: I run fast in your sperm.
- 16:33Speaker 2: Was bad and nobody knew it. We knew at the
- 16:36Speaker 2: time when he was the people.
- 16:39Speaker 7: Yes, I remember.
- 16:40Speaker 4: So it was like that tough room over there.
- 16:42Speaker 5: Oh no, it was brutal, but the joke was fantastic,
- 16:44Speaker 5: like you got to keep it in so uh yeah.
- 16:47Speaker 5: So it's like when when I thought it was my
- 16:49Speaker 5: wife's fault, which is what every guy thinks that's going
- 16:52Speaker 5: through fertility ship is I felt uncomfortable talking about on
- 16:56Speaker 5: stage because that's like her very deep personal business and
- 16:59Speaker 5: a lot of women feel incredibly insecure right about that, Right,
- 17:02Speaker 5: it makes him fee less of a woman, et cetera.
- 17:04Speaker 7: Right.
- 17:05Speaker 5: Once I found out it was my fault, I remember
- 17:08Speaker 5: the doctor said. I was like, what's the deal. The
- 17:11Speaker 5: doctor was like, uh, your sperm swims like uh Drew
- 17:16Speaker 5: Ski and a riptide.
- 17:18Speaker 7: They said you were a C C.
- 17:20Speaker 5: Plus, which I feel like he just said the plus
- 17:22Speaker 5: so I could feel better about myself, which was nice
- 17:25Speaker 5: of him.
- 17:26Speaker 1: But immediately after that I start going what the fuck
- 17:31Speaker 1: is wrong with me? Like why you know, like does
- 17:33Speaker 1: God not want me to have kids? Like it's like
- 17:35Speaker 1: you have like this really weird like weak.
- 17:39Speaker 5: And then once we decide to go through the I
- 17:41Speaker 5: actually want to like beat the system. I was like, no,
- 17:43Speaker 5: I think I could do it anyway. Like I got
- 17:45Speaker 5: like really competitive. And then every time that we would
- 17:48Speaker 5: try my and it didn't work, my wife would like
- 17:50Speaker 5: cry and I felt like it was really selfish if
- 17:54Speaker 5: we just didn't go through this other process. Second we
- 17:57Speaker 5: went with the other process, I felt really comfortable talking about.
- 17:59Speaker 1: It on stage.
- 18:01Speaker 5: Like actually, once I found out it was me felt
- 18:02Speaker 5: comfortable talking about the stage because it wasn't like my wife's.
- 18:05Speaker 1: Issue and I'm like exposing her like deep dark secret.
- 18:08Speaker 5: And when I started talking about on the stage, man,
- 18:10Speaker 5: the amount of people that would like come up to
- 18:12Speaker 5: me and send me these dms, like these beautiful things
- 18:14Speaker 5: about like what they're going through and I actually IVF
- 18:17Speaker 5: and like eventually having kids and like you really get
- 18:20Speaker 5: to see how I think we talk so much about
- 18:22Speaker 5: how people are trying to avoid kids or they're upset
- 18:25Speaker 5: that they got a girl pregnant, and there's like all
- 18:27Speaker 5: this like negativity around kids. When you talk to IVF couples,
- 18:32Speaker 5: you are or are talking to the people that face
- 18:35Speaker 5: the reality they might never bring life into this world.
- 18:39Speaker 5: And then, by the grace of God, we're able to
- 18:43Speaker 5: see this thing that they've cherished and maybe we're trying
- 18:45Speaker 5: to make for years.
- 18:46Speaker 1: So you have the most gratitude for your child?
- 18:49Speaker 2: Yes, Oh my god.
- 18:51Speaker 5: It's like you see the way that people react and
- 18:54Speaker 5: how emotional they get about their children, and it's like,
- 18:56Speaker 5: you get this, just this beautiful. And then the people
- 18:59Speaker 5: who had kids and it was kind of easy for them,
- 19:02Speaker 5: they'll send me these messages about like the gratitude they
- 19:04Speaker 5: have for their kids, and they didn't realize it, you know,
- 19:06Speaker 5: they it was kind of lucky for them.
- 19:08Speaker 1: So yeah, it was.
- 19:09Speaker 5: It was really it was a really cool thing that
- 19:11Speaker 5: I did not expect. I thought I was going to
- 19:12Speaker 5: be the only one going through this shit.
- 19:14Speaker 3: It's a tight knit community, like most people don't necessarily realize.
- 19:18Speaker 5: You know.
- 19:18Speaker 4: I got six kids, so the first four big them out.
- 19:20Speaker 3: God, we were trying to have the fifth one and
- 19:22Speaker 3: we couldn't get pregnant, so.
- 19:23Speaker 4: We tried IVF.
- 19:25Speaker 3: Oh really, we tried IVF for it because insurance didn't
- 19:28Speaker 3: cover it, but as expensive as a well the effort
- 19:30Speaker 3: to the point when when we had the powerhouse concerts
- 19:32Speaker 3: up pair, I would have to give my wife the
- 19:34Speaker 3: shot because you have to give her a shot at
- 19:35Speaker 3: a certainty.
- 19:36Speaker 1: You gotta make it. It's like a cocktail. Yes, I
- 19:38Speaker 1: had to make it at home. They're giving you syringes.
- 19:41Speaker 3: So in the middle of the concert, I'm in the
- 19:42Speaker 3: back doing the shot, this, that, and the other, and
- 19:44Speaker 3: it still didn't work.
- 19:45Speaker 4: So we was like we took it as well. Maybe
- 19:47Speaker 4: God said four is enough, but at.
- 19:49Speaker 2: Least you had four. Imagine the one that to have zero,
- 19:51Speaker 2: but it just got one.
- 19:52Speaker 4: It happened, happened bro naturally, which was the craziest thing ever.
- 19:55Speaker 5: Sometimes it's the stress, Like I know, it's the most
- 19:58Speaker 5: it's the dumbest thing you guys probably, I mean, you
- 20:00Speaker 5: know about this just because all the mental health stuff
- 20:02Speaker 5: you do. But like the way that your brain can
- 20:05Speaker 5: play tricks on your body that you got you put
- 20:07Speaker 5: so much pressure on, like having a kid and your
- 20:10Speaker 5: body reacts negatively like that. Like there's a lot of
- 20:12Speaker 5: people who try IVF it works, and then the next
- 20:14Speaker 5: kid they have naturally and it's just your body goes
- 20:17Speaker 5: all right, this kid time, Like, now you're not so stressed.
- 20:20Speaker 1: You got one and that might be it.
- 20:21Speaker 5: You guys went all right, you know, if we're supposed
- 20:23Speaker 5: to have four, that's what we're supposed to have.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Forget it, and then you stop trying and immediately bang.
- 20:28Speaker 4: Two more, two more.
- 20:29Speaker 6: The women that don't have kids, imagine how they would
- 20:32Speaker 6: feel if they knew how many abortions certain women got.
- 20:34Speaker 8: Bro.
- 20:35Speaker 1: When I was going through this, I was like, I
- 20:36Speaker 1: don't even understand who gets abortions?
- 20:38Speaker 4: Yeah, like I was, it was so.
- 20:39Speaker 1: Hard for us to get pregnant. I didn't even know
- 20:41Speaker 1: that it was about like my sperm or her eggs.
- 20:43Speaker 5: I was like, who's getting abortion? Like, how is this possible?
- 20:47Speaker 5: Once I knew, Yeah, I saw it, But yeah, it's
- 20:49Speaker 5: a deeper.
- 20:50Speaker 3: I'm glad you spoke about it because so many people
- 20:52Speaker 3: dealing with it. Like we talked about in the book
- 20:53Speaker 3: that when you do it, so many people hit you.
- 20:56Speaker 5: You'd be surprised and it's the last taboo thing and
- 20:59Speaker 5: people are so and secure about it because you don't
- 21:01Speaker 5: want your partner to be embarrassed.
- 21:02Speaker 1: So like, if I'm telling you it was easier that
- 21:05Speaker 1: it was me.
- 21:06Speaker 5: If it was my wife's ovaries, I don't think I'd
- 21:08Speaker 5: ever talk about it because it could.
- 21:10Speaker 1: Be humiliating for women.
- 21:12Speaker 5: For dudes, yes, humilion for me, But like as a comedian,
- 21:14Speaker 5: I think I'm a little like I find the joy
- 21:17Speaker 5: in that humiliation.
- 21:19Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's easy for me to deal with.
- 21:21Speaker 5: And but I'll tell you after talking about it and
- 21:24Speaker 5: seeing all the other people going.
- 21:25Speaker 1: Through it, it's like, yeah, that's why.
- 21:28Speaker 5: Honestly, when we had Trump on, there was like three
- 21:29Speaker 5: things that I want to ask him, and one of
- 21:31Speaker 5: them I wanted.
- 21:31Speaker 1: Him to say publicly that he would he would protect IVF.
- 21:34Speaker 4: So let's talk about that. How did you meet Trump?
- 21:36Speaker 4: How did you get the like how are you to
- 21:38Speaker 4: get this?
- 21:39Speaker 5: They reached out and they were like do you want
- 21:41Speaker 5: to have them on? And we're like, yeah, we want
- 21:43Speaker 5: to do in the studio, and then they were like,
- 21:46Speaker 5: we can't do it in the studio. Like you know,
- 21:48Speaker 5: Sean knows, it's like it's a you guarantee the assassination.
- 21:51Speaker 5: It's like windows everywhere.
- 21:53Speaker 1: It's like I don't even know why we were trying,
- 21:56Speaker 1: Like you walk right out the elevator. It's windows everywhere.
- 21:59Speaker 1: It is bad. But uh.
- 22:02Speaker 5: Right, like you know, I hope that doesn't happen, but
- 22:04Speaker 5: you know so, but we were really pushing for that.
- 22:07Speaker 5: And then and then when we did the pod, Yeah,
- 22:10Speaker 5: I like spoke to his kid for a while before
- 22:12Speaker 5: and I spoke to Dana White, which one junior junior,
- 22:16Speaker 5: and I was like, yeah, just tell me some stories.
- 22:18Speaker 1: And like I just kind of wanted to say again
- 22:20Speaker 1: the party.
- 22:21Speaker 7: You talked about the party, Oh yeah.
- 22:22Speaker 1: So he told me about that one.
- 22:23Speaker 5: He told me, Yeah, yeah, there's a part I didn't
- 22:26Speaker 5: say on the interview, but uh, because I said he
- 22:28Speaker 5: just went up to the roof and kicked everybody out.
- 22:29Speaker 1: But like what Junior told me is he was in
- 22:31Speaker 1: his underwear.
- 22:33Speaker 5: So like just imagine and imagine Trump Trump underwear Junior.
- 22:38Speaker 8: For the people who haven't seen the interview, Schultz in
- 22:41Speaker 8: the group they talk about Donald Trump, Junior had like
- 22:44Speaker 8: a huge yeah. And then they had a third body
- 22:46Speaker 8: out because Trump found out about the party.
- 22:48Speaker 1: Well yeah, he wasn't supposed to be back.
- 22:49Speaker 8: Yeah, he was supposed to be back. It was kind
- 22:51Speaker 8: of something on like a movie my dad comes home.
- 22:53Speaker 8: But he like never mentions it. So Trump Junior is
- 22:56Speaker 8: like almost like it didn't happen exactly. Know, he was
- 22:59Speaker 8: in his under so that party got real crazy.
- 23:01Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the first time he addressed it in
- 23:03Speaker 5: like forty years or something like that.
- 23:05Speaker 1: He never addressed it with his kid.
- 23:06Speaker 6: You know, there's a guy in this room, a young
- 23:08Speaker 6: black male who said he watched Trump on flagrant. He goes, yo,
- 23:13Speaker 6: he goes that flaggerant interview is gonna get Trump elected.
- 23:17Speaker 5: That guy that you're talking about, he's been magging for
- 23:19Speaker 5: a while.
- 23:23Speaker 2: He was waiting for that moment.
- 23:25Speaker 8: I felt the same way. That was the first time
- 23:26Speaker 8: I looked at him as like a person. I was like,
- 23:29Speaker 8: why am I like? I was like, oh my god,
- 23:30Speaker 8: he's a granddad. He cares about his kids. But it
- 23:33Speaker 8: was like y'all made him. He was having a good time.
- 23:36Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 23:38Speaker 3: That and the commercial where another young black guy in
- 23:42Speaker 3: this room did a commercial that Trump he was and
- 23:44Speaker 3: played over.
- 23:45Speaker 1: I met that who made that commercial over and over again.
- 23:48Speaker 2: You know what he said, Yeah, he.
- 23:50Speaker 5: Was like, hey, thanks, Charlotte Mane really helped us out.
- 23:58Speaker 1: I mean that commercial was unbelievable.
- 24:02Speaker 5: It's really crazy that the election was decided in this
- 24:04Speaker 5: room right now.
- 24:08Speaker 1: We don't get enough credit.
- 24:09Speaker 8: But do you get that response from people don't like, Yo,
- 24:12Speaker 8: I'm humanized somebody that like we low key. Even when
- 24:15Speaker 8: he got shot, felt like people were like, oh, we
- 24:17Speaker 8: don't want that to happen.
- 24:17Speaker 5: But so what I'd say to people, and I have
- 24:19Speaker 5: like a way more humble take than I think most like.
- 24:21Speaker 1: I don't think that we had any impact on the election.
- 24:24Speaker 5: I don't think that any of the podcasts like I
- 24:26Speaker 5: think that America. I think what America had decided is
- 24:29Speaker 5: a lot of America weren't voting for Trump. They were
- 24:32Speaker 5: rejecting the current administration. They just didn't like what was happening.
- 24:36Speaker 5: And I think the way that the current administration was campaigning,
- 24:39Speaker 5: they're basically kind of saying, Hey, everything's good, We're gonna
- 24:42Speaker 5: kind of keep doing this. I think a lot of
- 24:44Speaker 5: Americans were like, I don't really feel like it's good,
- 24:47Speaker 5: so I'm gonna go for anything but this. But I
- 24:49Speaker 5: think the idea of Trump is always he's a populist,
- 24:52Speaker 5: So if you vote for him, it means you love
- 24:55Speaker 5: him and you're obsessed with him and your maggot till
- 24:57Speaker 5: you die. Where I think a lot of it is
- 24:59Speaker 5: really just rejection in the same way that when people
- 25:02Speaker 5: voted for Biden, they didn't really.
- 25:04Speaker 1: Vote for Biden. They voted against the chaos of.
- 25:07Speaker 2: Trump and the chaos of the world at that time.
- 25:09Speaker 6: Yes, it was COVID, it was George Floyd, but also
- 25:12Speaker 6: we talk about this America had his mind made up
- 25:16Speaker 6: for two years that they were voting for Trump.
- 25:18Speaker 4: We knew that.
- 25:18Speaker 6: Like, it's not like we knew that we were saying that,
- 25:21Speaker 6: we were saying Biden needed to step down because we.
- 25:23Speaker 2: Knew Biden wasn't gonna win November.
- 25:24Speaker 6: It wasn't until the vice president, you know, became the
- 25:27Speaker 6: nominee that it was like, okay, well maybe maybe maybe
- 25:29Speaker 6: there is another option, but everybody knew it's not.
- 25:33Speaker 4: So what do you think about everything that Trump's doing now?
- 25:35Speaker 1: Well, what specifically, there's a whole lot.
- 25:38Speaker 4: I mean, there's so many orders.
- 25:42Speaker 5: Joe Rogan, I think it was Megan Kelly, but yeah,
- 25:44Speaker 5: I love the Yeah, the Gulf of America. I mean
- 25:47Speaker 5: it's North America, Central America, South America. Why we call
- 25:50Speaker 5: it the Gulf of Mexico. It should feel like the
- 25:54Speaker 5: Gulf of America. It's not the Gulf of North America.
- 25:57Speaker 5: It's just the Gulf of America. But again, what I
- 25:59Speaker 5: like is just like I like saying audacious shit. I'm
- 26:02Speaker 5: an American, like Americans in general, like in our DNA,
- 26:05Speaker 5: where like we like risk takers and we like people
- 26:08Speaker 5: who are brave. And I think that's like the tricky
- 26:10Speaker 5: thing for Democrats right now. And keep in mind, I'm
- 26:13Speaker 5: like a lifelong Democrat. I grew up in an arts family.
- 26:16Speaker 5: Both my parents were dance teachers, like I live in
- 26:19Speaker 5: New York City my whole life. So what I need
- 26:22Speaker 5: is some energy on the Democratics side. We talk about
- 26:24Speaker 5: this all the time, is I need some like shit talk.
- 26:26Speaker 5: I need some bodacious shit talk. And I think the
- 26:29Speaker 5: thing that really Americans care about right now is that
- 26:31Speaker 5: it's it's things are expensive, and I think Democrats need
- 26:34Speaker 5: their build the wall and whatever that is. It has
- 26:39Speaker 5: to happen too what people are struggling with right now.
- 26:41Speaker 5: So if they first have to build a team, well exactly,
- 26:44Speaker 5: but yo, it could just be one outsider, like like
- 26:46Speaker 5: I think it's dollar eggs, Like eggs are a dollar.
- 26:48Speaker 5: I think you just start saying shit like that. It
- 26:50Speaker 5: doesn't matter if you don't know how to do it,
- 26:52Speaker 5: but you start saying something that's going to resonate with people,
- 26:54Speaker 5: and that's the only way.
- 26:55Speaker 1: And I think that if they make it a class.
- 26:56Speaker 5: Issue, they win this election pretty easily come the next election.
- 27:00Speaker 5: But they're afraid to do that because a lot of them
- 27:01Speaker 5: are in the pockets of the billionaire class and the corporations.
- 27:03Speaker 5: So they make it about identity politics. They it's all
- 27:06Speaker 5: these people that go to like Harvard and Yale that
- 27:08Speaker 5: like pretend to give a fuck about you guys. They
- 27:10Speaker 5: don't actually give a fuck about you guys, but they
- 27:13Speaker 5: get patted on the back for pretending to do it.
- 27:15Speaker 5: And now they're in this situation where the rest of
- 27:17Speaker 5: America's like I can't afford eggs, so I can't really
- 27:19Speaker 5: care about the bathroom. Like I don't give a fuck
- 27:21Speaker 5: about who goes in the bathroom because I needed buy eggs.
- 27:23Speaker 5: Until I can buy eggs, I don't worry about the bathroom.
- 27:25Speaker 5: So you got to start addressing people where their problems are.
- 27:28Speaker 6: And you know what's proven that point when you look
- 27:29Speaker 6: at like Gavin Newsom on his podcast with Charlie kirk right.
- 27:33Speaker 5: He wants to so bad bro the motherfuckers, which exactly,
- 27:36Speaker 5: but you see how quick he is to distance himself
- 27:38Speaker 5: from trans athletes and stuff like that.
- 27:40Speaker 2: So now it's like, oh, so you never cared.
- 27:41Speaker 1: No, they never cared.
- 27:42Speaker 2: You never gave a buck. It was just all about
- 27:44Speaker 2: politics for you.
- 27:45Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 27:45Speaker 7: It's not about that for all politicians.
- 27:46Speaker 6: Absolutely, but some people show it better than others. Some
- 27:49Speaker 6: people act like they care better than others.
- 27:51Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to learn how to lie better.
- 27:53Speaker 6: And I don't think Democrats are going to win so
- 27:55Speaker 6: easily in twenty twenty eight.
- 27:56Speaker 2: I think that America.
- 27:57Speaker 6: I think because the Democrats are in such disarray, America
- 28:01Speaker 6: will say, you know it, just give me a sensible Republican.
- 28:04Speaker 6: Just give me a traditional conservative. Yeah, give you a
- 28:07Speaker 6: nicky Haley. Just somebody, just a regular conservative. I can
- 28:09Speaker 6: deal with that.
- 28:10Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 28:10Speaker 2: I think that's what's gonna happen.
- 28:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that could definitely happen.
- 28:14Speaker 5: There just has to be something like like radical and
- 28:17Speaker 5: disruptive on the Democrats side.
- 28:19Speaker 1: And I think that they're also concerned.
- 28:21Speaker 5: They're playing this like prevent defense and they're really concerned
- 28:25Speaker 5: about like ostracizing a group, Like if I say this,
- 28:27Speaker 5: will women be upset?
- 28:28Speaker 1: If I say this.
- 28:29Speaker 5: Will black people will be upset. If I say this,
- 28:30Speaker 5: will trans be upset. And it's actually like a harder
- 28:33Speaker 5: position to be in to be a Democrat. You're the
- 28:35Speaker 5: party of progress. You have to push shit.
- 28:37Speaker 2: Forward, and you got to please everybody.
- 28:38Speaker 1: You want to please everybody with which is impossible. Conservatives
- 28:40Speaker 1: are actually trying to pull shit back.
- 28:42Speaker 5: It's a way easier position to be in to be like,
- 28:44Speaker 5: all right, we went too far forward. But I think
- 28:46Speaker 5: what Democrats need to do is just start listening to
- 28:48Speaker 5: every day working class people.
- 28:50Speaker 1: I don't like.
- 28:51Speaker 5: I think Democrats are too stuck in the ivy league.
- 28:54Speaker 5: It's just too much like pretentious finger wagon. That's not
- 28:57Speaker 5: what every day Americans are. And you need to get
- 28:59Speaker 5: the working class back immediately. And you're not going to
- 29:01Speaker 5: get that back when you just got a bunch of
- 29:03Speaker 5: these like super rich NEPO babies telling poor people how
- 29:06Speaker 5: they should think and who should they should vote for. Like,
- 29:08Speaker 5: I don't want you to tell me if you never
- 29:10Speaker 5: had a job, you can't tell me who I should
- 29:12Speaker 5: vote for.
- 29:13Speaker 1: Simple as that you liked havin Crocket though I love
- 29:15Speaker 1: that girl.
- 29:16Speaker 5: Like that's the type of language that I want to start.
- 29:19Speaker 5: I want to I want people to start using like
- 29:20Speaker 5: when she said your Putin's hoe. I don't care.
- 29:25Speaker 1: I don't agree with that sentiment actually to night, but
- 29:28Speaker 1: I like the I like the energy.
- 29:31Speaker 5: Because what people like about Trump despite him being like
- 29:34Speaker 5: a billionaire who got money from his dad, right, he.
- 29:37Speaker 1: Doesn't talk like them. He talks like me and you.
- 29:40Speaker 5: The Indian journalist is asking him a question, dibble dabble,
- 29:43Speaker 5: dibble dabble, and then all of a sudden, dibble dabble, dibble.
- 29:47Speaker 1: Dabble, and then he goes, I don't know what the
- 29:50Speaker 1: hell that guy just said.
- 29:51Speaker 5: That to me is the most relatable thing I've ever
- 29:54Speaker 5: seen in my entire life.
- 29:55Speaker 1: I go, yeah, that's what I would have said.
- 29:57Speaker 2: That's what he would have said.
- 29:58Speaker 1: That's what you would have said if we were just
- 30:00Speaker 1: hanging around on the corner talking.
- 30:02Speaker 3: So you like Trump because you don't feel like it's political.
- 30:04Speaker 3: He's just himself.
- 30:05Speaker 5: I'm not saying I'm not saying the reason why I
- 30:06Speaker 5: like him. I'm saying the reason why people relate to
- 30:09Speaker 5: him despite.
- 30:09Speaker 1: Him being a billionaire.
- 30:11Speaker 5: Because that's the thing Democrats don't seem to understand. They're like,
- 30:13Speaker 5: they say that we're in the pockets.
- 30:14Speaker 1: Of the rich. But there's a rich guy right there,
- 30:16Speaker 1: why do they relate to him? It's like, do you
- 30:17Speaker 1: see how he talks to people.
- 30:18Speaker 5: He called shorty Pocahontas in the middle of the Senate here, yo.
- 30:21Speaker 2: And you know we're sitting right there. It's been normalized
- 30:24Speaker 2: so much that that wasn't even a headline.
- 30:25Speaker 6: Nobody sit there and take it.
- 30:30Speaker 1: Yeah, Pokemont's over here, pointed.
- 30:31Speaker 6: At nobody cared talking about a little bit for him.
- 30:34Speaker 6: It wasn't even a headline. Nobody gave what He's.
- 30:36Speaker 5: Making fun of African nations. He's like, we gave forty
- 30:39Speaker 5: million to the Lessoto. Nobody knows what that is.
- 30:43Speaker 1: That's hilarious like that.
- 30:45Speaker 2: I didn't know what it was either.
- 30:47Speaker 8: I was that a real nation was running down and
- 30:51Speaker 8: stuff at the city. I thought that that was all jokes.
- 30:53Speaker 7: That was real.
- 30:54Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
- 30:58Speaker 2: He would have said, comedy, that's a mad contract.
- 31:02Speaker 1: We need I need that vibranium.
- 31:06Speaker 3: I want to ask too, because you talking about walking
- 31:08Speaker 3: the line, you walk a dope line because you have
- 31:12Speaker 3: white fan base and black fan base. Is that difficult
- 31:16Speaker 3: for you?
- 31:17Speaker 1: I got wall I said, I got.
- 31:18Speaker 4: Your jokes, go everywhere with it.
- 31:20Speaker 2: I got the most.
- 31:20Speaker 1: Diverse audience in comedy.
- 31:22Speaker 5: It's not even close, Like it's just like you come
- 31:24Speaker 5: to my show, it looks like the un So it's
- 31:26Speaker 5: like it's like to me, it's in my.
- 31:30Speaker 1: Experience, in my life. I'm a pretty curious guy.
- 31:32Speaker 5: So like, if I find out something about your culture,
- 31:35Speaker 5: where you're from, whatever, I like talking about it, and
- 31:38Speaker 5: I'm going to make jokes about just because that's my
- 31:39Speaker 5: way of communicating the world. What I found is is
- 31:42Speaker 5: like when you make fun of people based on things
- 31:44Speaker 5: that they're proud of or they haven't realized about themselves,
- 31:47Speaker 5: they don't feel offended. They feel kind of seen, they
- 31:49Speaker 5: feel noticed, and they appreciate it. So all these different
- 31:51Speaker 5: groups will start coming out to shows, you know, and
- 31:53Speaker 5: I was like.
- 31:54Speaker 1: Oh, this is really fucking cool.
- 31:55Speaker 5: And when you ever, whenever it comes out to the show,
- 31:57Speaker 5: we all kind of submit to this idea like everybody's
- 31:59Speaker 5: gonna be made fun of, We're all gonna laugh at
- 32:01Speaker 5: each other, we're gonna laugh at ourselves, and it's a cool,
- 32:03Speaker 5: little beautiful thing. So to me, it's never been like
- 32:07Speaker 5: like black people found out about me before white people,
- 32:09Speaker 5: like I'm doing brilliantaires with him, like Guy Code. To
- 32:12Speaker 5: be honest, black people were on way before white people.
- 32:14Speaker 5: I mean eventually towards the end seasons the Guy Code,
- 32:16Speaker 5: I think it like just crossed over. But early on
- 32:19Speaker 5: MTV two.
- 32:19Speaker 1: Was more like hip hop related.
- 32:20Speaker 5: Yeah, and then I think Rogan, I think white people
- 32:24Speaker 5: started to find me, and then like you know, Indians
- 32:27Speaker 5: found me. Obviously I do the pop with Akas, but
- 32:29Speaker 5: also some stand up clips that would go viral out
- 32:31Speaker 5: there Albanians when we've seen me from some clip, and
- 32:34Speaker 5: like all these different groups would come out and yeah,
- 32:37Speaker 5: it's my favorite thing of looking out in the audience.
- 32:39Speaker 5: But I used to go to comedy clubs when I
- 32:40Speaker 5: was on tour and the the owners would be like
- 32:44Speaker 5: because it would be all black people for the weekend,
- 32:46Speaker 5: and they would think I was like Gary Owen or
- 32:49Speaker 5: something like that.
- 32:50Speaker 1: They were like, what the fuck is going on?
- 32:52Speaker 2: I never called you, like, man, what's the secret?
- 32:54Speaker 1: Man? How do you get white people to about?
- 33:04Speaker 7: What about?
- 33:04Speaker 8: Because you said when people you make people feel good
- 33:06Speaker 8: because they feel seen, But what about in the moments
- 33:08Speaker 8: where you're making people like things that they people don't want?
- 33:11Speaker 8: To be seen for you're bringing that up and there upset,
- 33:13Speaker 8: Like I know black women was really upset at you
- 33:14Speaker 8: for a second.
- 33:15Speaker 5: Yeah, but I would say that they're upset for like
- 33:18Speaker 5: a joke that I tried to make on the pod
- 33:21Speaker 5: and like the problem with the pod. I mean, I
- 33:23Speaker 5: love pod, don't get me wrong. It's like it's not
- 33:25Speaker 5: really jokes. It's just like mounds of clay.
- 33:29Speaker 1: A joke on stage is like a statue, you know,
- 33:32Speaker 1: you like molded it carved it.
- 33:34Speaker 2: Like you can't work out on the pod. Yeah, but
- 33:37Speaker 2: it's going to be.
- 33:38Speaker 5: It's probably And like, so like what I always say
- 33:40Speaker 5: to people is like, first of all, if like I'm
- 33:42Speaker 5: making a joke, I'm like teasing you about something, right,
- 33:44Speaker 5: and you go to me, hey, that kind.
- 33:47Speaker 1: Of makes me feel ucomfortable.
- 33:48Speaker 5: I'm never gonna tease you again because I don't want
- 33:51Speaker 5: you to be uncomfortable about that thing.
- 33:54Speaker 4: Tell the man you're comfortable.
- 33:56Speaker 7: You here, that's not that's not.
- 34:05Speaker 1: What period, that's her real hair.
- 34:09Speaker 8: Scout baby, Oh my god, that's beautiful period at over there?
- 34:13Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you looking at over there?
- 34:14Speaker 2: Looking at nothing got you?
- 34:16Speaker 5: But so so what I'm saying is like I would
- 34:22Speaker 5: never like if I if I have a joke where
- 34:24Speaker 5: I'm just like teasing you forever and you're like, hey,
- 34:26Speaker 5: that actually makes me feel comfortable. Like, my goal is
- 34:27Speaker 5: not to make you feel comfortable, So I'll never tease
- 34:29Speaker 5: you about that.
- 34:30Speaker 1: Again.
- 34:30Speaker 5: That doesn't mean I won't tease other people about that,
- 34:34Speaker 5: but to you specifically, I want so if there's somebody
- 34:36Speaker 5: at a comedy show and she like they're upset about something,
- 34:40Speaker 5: here's a perfect example. Girl at a comedy show. I
- 34:42Speaker 5: was saying some joke about some topic. I forget exactly
- 34:44Speaker 5: what is. She gets up and starts to walk out right.
- 34:46Speaker 5: This is a little comedy club, and I'm like, I'm like,
- 34:48Speaker 5: where are you going? And she's like, I just uh
- 34:50Speaker 5: just got to step out. I go why, and she's like,
- 34:52Speaker 5: I just I don't want to I don't want to
- 34:54Speaker 5: make it about me. I go, man, what's the deal.
- 34:56Speaker 5: She says, Oh, it's just like the topic. And some
- 34:58Speaker 5: of the people in the audience start to like boo
- 35:00Speaker 5: her for being like like offended or whatever, and I go, yo.
- 35:04Speaker 2: No, don't boo her.
- 35:05Speaker 5: She's doing what we all wish an audience member would do.
- 35:10Speaker 5: She's going, hey, I feel uncomfortable. I don't want to
- 35:12Speaker 5: affect everybody else's time here. I don't want to make
- 35:15Speaker 5: this show about me. I'm just gonna step out and
- 35:17Speaker 5: I'm like, wow, Like, you're just like the most emotionally
- 35:20Speaker 5: intelligent person in the room right there. I don't ever
- 35:23Speaker 5: want to make her feel uncomfortable. So one on one,
- 35:25Speaker 5: I'm not going to do that. But I'm not gonna
- 35:26Speaker 5: stop joking around about a whole idea just because it
- 35:30Speaker 5: makes one person uncomfortable.
- 35:31Speaker 6: I used to watch go to Paul Mooney shows. Oh
- 35:33Speaker 6: my god, people would walk out of.
- 35:35Speaker 2: Paul Mooney shows all the time. And it was always
- 35:37Speaker 2: white people. Yeah, they would always lead.
- 35:39Speaker 6: They was offended, like I'm leaving, and they wouldn't make
- 35:41Speaker 6: no noise about it. They would just get up and leave,
- 35:43Speaker 6: and Paul would be like, oh, why are you leaving? Nah,
- 35:46Speaker 6: it's not for me.
- 35:46Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the perfect thing.
- 35:48Speaker 2: If it's not for you, it's not for you, be
- 35:50Speaker 2: out exactly.
- 35:51Speaker 1: But there might be someone who finds it funny.
- 35:53Speaker 5: So that's the trigger thing where it's like one individual
- 35:55Speaker 5: shouldn't decide what everybody finds funny. But in terms of
- 35:59Speaker 5: the thing you were talking about, like, yeah, if black
- 36:01Speaker 5: women are upset at that thing that said, yeah, you're
- 36:03Speaker 5: totally allowed to be upset. There's this rule that, like
- 36:06Speaker 5: a lot of comics say, like people aren't allowed to
- 36:09Speaker 5: be offended.
- 36:09Speaker 1: You're allowed to feel however you want to feel, especially
- 36:12Speaker 1: if you don't know me.
- 36:13Speaker 5: Like, if you know me, you know my attentions, You're like,
- 36:15Speaker 5: you know, I'm just trying to bust balls and like
- 36:17Speaker 5: make a fucking stupid joke, and maybe the joke wasn't
- 36:19Speaker 5: that funny, but like, my intentions are always good.
- 36:21Speaker 1: If you don't know me, you just see it, You're like, oh,
- 36:23Speaker 1: what fuck is this asshole? So I'm not even upset
- 36:25Speaker 1: at your response.
- 36:26Speaker 8: Like that was my first take, And then we talked
- 36:27Speaker 8: about it in the room, like me and Charlotte, because
- 36:29Speaker 8: my first sake was like, well, who is he to
- 36:31Speaker 8: even like you're welcome, things were welcoming you here be
- 36:35Speaker 8: a guest.
- 36:36Speaker 1: But well it's my thought.
- 36:38Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean, but just in our world of
- 36:39Speaker 8: like black women and what we deal with as fre
- 36:41Speaker 8: as tropes. But I will say, after watching a special
- 36:44Speaker 8: and after you know, having conversations with Charla, I'm like,
- 36:47Speaker 8: I mean a joke is a joke as a joke. Like, granted,
- 36:50Speaker 8: some people are still gonna be upset. They probably be
- 36:51Speaker 8: upset that I just said that, But it depends on
- 36:53Speaker 8: the person and you can't win. You got to figure
- 36:55Speaker 8: out where you wo line you going to trade.
- 36:57Speaker 5: I also think those those two dudes from the thing,
- 36:59Speaker 5: like they're in a tricky situation because like they I
- 37:02Speaker 5: think they had said that they didn't find women Atlanta attractive,
- 37:05Speaker 5: and I think a lot of black women in Atlanta
- 37:07Speaker 5: were like, oh shit, are you trying to say you
- 37:09Speaker 5: don't like black women?
- 37:09Speaker 1: Right?
- 37:10Speaker 7: They don't get me started on them.
- 37:11Speaker 8: They came out and apologized down, Okay, they gave like
- 37:14Speaker 8: five renditions of an apology, and they can still stay
- 37:16Speaker 8: where they're at.
- 37:17Speaker 1: And I think, but I think people see.
- 37:21Speaker 5: The bullshit like you know some sellouts when you see them,
- 37:23Speaker 5: So it's not like it's it's so they're trying to
- 37:25Speaker 5: like position it. They try to put it on me,
- 37:28Speaker 5: and some people fell for the bait, like Ryan Clark
- 37:30Speaker 5: felt for the bait and like made a whole like
- 37:32Speaker 5: cloud moment out of it when he didn't even realize,
- 37:34Speaker 5: Like the thing you should be addressing is the two
- 37:36Speaker 5: clowns that are basically saying black women are ugly.
- 37:38Speaker 1: And then laughing at the joke on the other podcast.
- 37:41Speaker 5: So it's like, that's the issue, not the comedian making
- 37:44Speaker 5: a joke about the hypothetical situation.
- 37:46Speaker 7: Well, we can move on after this.
- 37:48Speaker 8: I will argue that all of you guys were a
- 37:49Speaker 8: part of the problem in that moment, but I think
- 37:52Speaker 8: again it's to each his own. I didn't like though,
- 37:54Speaker 8: that they threw it one way and didn't take accountability
- 37:56Speaker 8: for the fact that, like, y'all were actively engaged and
- 37:58Speaker 8: it's fine if you wanted to do that.
- 38:00Speaker 7: On oh, they were like.
- 38:01Speaker 8: We should have, we should We were uncomfortable. We just
- 38:03Speaker 8: didn't want to say anything in the moment. We were just
- 38:05Speaker 8: trying to get through. And it's like, y'all want y'all
- 38:08Speaker 8: were not victims, y'all. Y'all were actively engaged.
- 38:11Speaker 7: Just shut up.
- 38:12Speaker 8: Y'all were actively engaged. Y'all were having a good time.
- 38:18Speaker 1: The not uncomfortable. The only time they're uncomfortable is around
- 38:20Speaker 1: beautiful black women.
- 38:22Speaker 2: Obviously. Damn. That is a good question.
- 38:26Speaker 6: How have podcasting changed the way you approach I guess
- 38:29Speaker 6: comedy and after you know, these couple of recent situations.
- 38:33Speaker 6: The situation I needs, the situation I saw, but how
- 38:37Speaker 6: it approached, how you discussed things now, you know, your.
- 38:43Speaker 5: Cares like an interesting one. Like I guess I could
- 38:45Speaker 5: deal with people not liking me because these.
- 38:47Speaker 1: Things a lot of times are momentarily like that. They'll
- 38:50Speaker 1: they'll not like you for a few weeks and they
- 38:52Speaker 1: think they won't like you then to move on to
- 38:53Speaker 1: somebody else that they don't like, et cetera.
- 38:55Speaker 5: So that's not really like the big, big issue, you know,
- 39:00Speaker 5: it's just a It is one of those things where
- 39:02Speaker 5: I go, like, all right, if I'm if I'm shooting
- 39:05Speaker 5: and it's on something like if it's on something really wild,
- 39:09Speaker 5: I want to make sure that I could ideally that
- 39:12Speaker 5: shot is is amazing, you know, but I'm gonna fail,
- 39:15Speaker 5: Like you don't make funny jokes every single time, and
- 39:18Speaker 5: I and I like shooting.
- 39:20Speaker 1: That means I'm gonna shoot and miss a lot, you know.
- 39:22Speaker 5: But I just got to basically understand that, Like they
- 39:25Speaker 5: are gonna be people that don't know me, and however.
- 39:27Speaker 1: They interpret me. I can't control that.
- 39:31Speaker 5: Like there are people that think I'm like some right
- 39:32Speaker 5: wing maga lunatic and I I literally as much as
- 39:37Speaker 5: I would want them to be, Like, Bro, you've never
- 39:39Speaker 5: had a conversation with me, Like you don't know anything
- 39:41Speaker 5: about my.
- 39:42Speaker 1: Life like you people exactly.
- 39:46Speaker 5: So it's like you can't control how people how people
- 39:48Speaker 5: feel about you, and you just have to continue, at
- 39:51Speaker 5: least in my opinion.
- 39:53Speaker 1: Just put out good art.
- 39:54Speaker 5: And when I have the opportunity to put out like
- 39:55Speaker 5: a good piece of art, like hopefully The Special does that,
- 39:58Speaker 5: Like hopefully you see the mo distilled version. We were
- 40:01Speaker 5: talking about this yesterday, Like you know, when he puts
- 40:03Speaker 5: out a book, it's the most distilled version of his
- 40:06Speaker 5: thoughts and there's less fat for you.
- 40:08Speaker 1: To interpret in a shitty way.
- 40:10Speaker 5: When I'm on a pod just shooting ship, there's tons
- 40:12Speaker 5: of fat for you to interpret. When you see The Special,
- 40:15Speaker 5: I feel like you get a really distilled version of
- 40:18Speaker 5: like how I think and how I feel. If you
- 40:20Speaker 5: get offended by something in The Special, I could really
- 40:23Speaker 5: live with that because I've worked hard to make it
- 40:27Speaker 5: pierce through, even like the sharpest armor for the most
- 40:31Speaker 5: protective armor.
- 40:32Speaker 4: Now do get that. I do also want to ask
- 40:34Speaker 4: do you still want to make love to Kendrick?
- 40:36Speaker 2: Lamar.
- 40:37Speaker 1: I mean, like, honestly, it's hard to say.
- 40:39Speaker 2: No to that.
- 40:40Speaker 4: You find him a jacke?
- 40:42Speaker 8: Yeah, man, did you see him in the clean jean?
- 40:46Speaker 5: When I saw those jeans, I was like, boom boom,
- 40:49Speaker 5: bom boot.
- 40:57Speaker 2: That was a joke.
- 41:00Speaker 1: That shit raises him so fast. I'm just saying, he's little,
- 41:03Speaker 1: like I hate having to explain jokes.
- 41:05Speaker 5: He's adye baty, So why is he telling he's gonna
- 41:07Speaker 5: kill my telling people to kill my friends.
- 41:09Speaker 2: The biggest thing about.
- 41:11Speaker 1: This whole shit that nobody I didn't.
- 41:13Speaker 5: Even cared that he said this shit about like me.
- 41:15Speaker 5: Not saying jokes like that to me is like a
- 41:17Speaker 5: million people who said not say jokes. The next line
- 41:20Speaker 5: where he goes into the m words that Koon and
- 41:22Speaker 5: the Edwards being groomed, slide on both of them.
- 41:25Speaker 1: What a slide mean to y'all?
- 41:27Speaker 7: Take you out? But that's because I'm hold on.
- 41:28Speaker 5: I ain't no explaining him. If you say kill my friends,
- 41:33Speaker 5: everything after that is fine. You took it there.
- 41:36Speaker 1: If you say kill.
- 41:37Speaker 5: My friends, because a lot of people thought that was
- 41:40Speaker 5: Charlemagne and Alex Media. So if you go the next
- 41:43Speaker 5: line you tell your fans to kill my friends, you
- 41:48Speaker 5: getting made.
- 41:48Speaker 2: Love to listen.
- 41:49Speaker 6: I appreciate my friend trying to stick up for me,
- 41:52Speaker 6: but I don't think he was talking about I don't think.
- 41:54Speaker 2: But how am I supposed to know?
- 41:56Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 41:57Speaker 5: Like I didn't say anything for weeks. That was the
- 41:58Speaker 5: other thing, Like people ran with these different narratives. They
- 42:01Speaker 5: tried to act like after what I said, I was
- 42:03Speaker 5: worried about like getting death threats and shit. It's like no,
- 42:06Speaker 5: I was getting at the second they said it for
- 42:08Speaker 5: two weeks sensation shit, I filed my special I don't
- 42:11Speaker 5: really give a fuck. And then after that I was like, Yo,
- 42:13Speaker 5: we're gonna have some fun with this. But I don't
- 42:15Speaker 5: like this idea that like I'm this big bully. It's
- 42:19Speaker 5: like you told your people to kill my friends after
- 42:23Speaker 5: you say that, or that's the potential interpretation if somebody
- 42:27Speaker 5: said in a rap song to kill your friends.
- 42:32Speaker 8: But do you understand though that that that was in
- 42:34Speaker 8: response to him feeling like you came at what he
- 42:36Speaker 8: would deem his friends or his people or people he's
- 42:38Speaker 8: trying to protect, talking about.
- 42:39Speaker 1: They make fun of my friends.
- 42:41Speaker 8: But if you in the street, if you outside, you outside,
- 42:43Speaker 8: you can't choose whether you out or in. It's like
- 42:44Speaker 8: you out or you in.
- 42:45Speaker 5: Okay, So then if he wants to play by those rules,
- 42:48Speaker 5: then don't be surprised at the response.
- 42:50Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It feels like he's inside and outside.
- 42:52Speaker 6: Plus it's a weird matchup, right, because you got a rapper,
- 42:55Speaker 6: right who's a Prolympic rapper, and then you got a
- 42:58Speaker 6: comedian who's to say anything for the joke. So it's
- 43:02Speaker 6: not even just like what are we doing here?
- 43:04Speaker 8: I think it's because it's platform and it's like people
- 43:06Speaker 8: listen to you and your voice and your podcast. That's
- 43:07Speaker 8: why that that's why that stuff went so viral, because
- 43:10Speaker 8: you got the numbers and then he has it too.
- 43:12Speaker 7: So at the moment he's like, Okay, you know you.
- 43:13Speaker 2: Want to talk about Gary Owens.
- 43:15Speaker 7: That's that's a good point.
- 43:16Speaker 8: Nobody we don't know I'm not about I know exactly
- 43:27Speaker 8: what he was talking about because I heard, and I
- 43:29Speaker 8: knew exactly what.
- 43:30Speaker 1: I didn't think it was. I didn't think it was me.
- 43:31Speaker 1: I was like, why are we talking about me?
- 43:33Speaker 7: Because of the ships and giggles and all the last.
- 43:37Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he was talking about math.
- 43:39Speaker 5: He got to be kept saying he was talking about me,
- 43:42Speaker 5: and I was like, wait, if he's talking about me,
- 43:44Speaker 5: and is he telling people to kill my friends?
- 43:46Speaker 1: Well, I got to do something about that.
- 43:47Speaker 2: I got to do something.
- 43:49Speaker 5: I gotta do something, Like I'm not a tough guy,
- 43:51Speaker 5: you know, I'm a certified lover boy.
- 43:57Speaker 6: But you're always going to be perceived as the bully
- 44:00Speaker 6: because you're a white man.
- 44:01Speaker 1: Is that right?
- 44:02Speaker 2: I just thought that, right, like me, I thought you
- 44:04Speaker 2: mean that right? No, No, what you mean?
- 44:07Speaker 6: No?
- 44:07Speaker 5: Like, am I am I bully? Like I just thought
- 44:10Speaker 5: it was like you a bully. The size differential, that's
- 44:13Speaker 5: what I thought. No, it's a it's a you think
- 44:15Speaker 5: there's a racial dynamic. Duh, Yeah, I guess I didn't know.
- 44:19Speaker 8: Yeah, of course. And it's the it's the privileged conversation.
- 44:22Speaker 8: It's like what you can get on the plat, like
- 44:23Speaker 8: the ships and giggles. Guys, they hadn'tize sixty times.
- 44:26Speaker 6: You know, you said something is not as interesting. You said,
- 44:28Speaker 6: it's the privileged conversation. You know, we all can say
- 44:31Speaker 6: whatever it is we want to say. You just got
- 44:33Speaker 6: to be able to deal with the consequences.
- 44:35Speaker 8: White most people can't exactly and most people don't have
- 44:38Speaker 8: the platform, and they're not they're not teflon down like you.
- 44:41Speaker 8: They don't have fifteen years of the game. They not
- 44:43Speaker 8: picked up by Fox News and seeing it and shaved
- 44:45Speaker 8: room like.
- 44:46Speaker 7: You other other people. Right list is a political.
- 44:57Speaker 5: You know that you just want to hear just he's
- 45:00Speaker 5: got a guy with glasses and a bow tie. Listen
- 45:03Speaker 5: his podcast Way for Charlotte made to say one bad
- 45:05Speaker 5: thing about the Democrats.
- 45:06Speaker 2: If we don't even think about stuff like that.
- 45:08Speaker 8: But but it's the truth though, because you have a
- 45:10Speaker 8: platform that a lot of other people don't have. Kendrick
- 45:13Speaker 8: Lamar has a platform. So he's like, all right, bet
- 45:15Speaker 8: you're gonna get outside. You're gonna laugh, jokey, I'm outside
- 45:17Speaker 8: for my woman front of the Black Woman.
- 45:19Speaker 2: It's lucid Kendrick.
- 45:20Speaker 6: Because Kendrick does what he wants to do and he
- 45:22Speaker 6: gets rewarded for like you can do that.
- 45:24Speaker 5: This whole thing got blown out of purport. Like honestly,
- 45:27Speaker 5: I think he's like obviously a prolific rapper.
- 45:29Speaker 1: He's you know, he's it's.
- 45:31Speaker 5: Not my the thing that I listened to all the time.
- 45:33Speaker 5: But like to say, he's not like fantastic at what
- 45:35Speaker 5: he does is ridiculous, And I have a lot of
- 45:37Speaker 5: respect for anybody that puts something out for judgment.
- 45:41Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of people who, like,
- 45:43Speaker 1: they just.
- 45:43Speaker 5: Make reaction content, right, so they don't really know what
- 45:46Speaker 5: it's like to like create a piece of art and
- 45:47Speaker 5: put it out there in the world and let the
- 45:49Speaker 5: world judge it.
- 45:50Speaker 7: You have to deal with that.
- 45:51Speaker 1: That takes balls, and I admire people that have balls.
- 45:58Speaker 2: Trump's trades, executive orders, what he do.
- 46:01Speaker 5: He got rid of trance, he got rid of trans
- 46:02Speaker 5: what women, They're not around anymore. But that is that
- 46:10Speaker 5: is Yeah, that is how it is.
- 46:12Speaker 1: Isn't that how it is?
- 46:13Speaker 7: Every day shine but the sun still come up.
- 46:16Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing.
- 46:17Speaker 3: I think there are trans people, No, there are, But yeah,
- 46:21Speaker 3: just recognize him.
- 46:22Speaker 1: Yeah, but that he's allowed to, like, you can't force
- 46:25Speaker 1: me to recognize.
- 46:26Speaker 6: He's allowed to not believe. But that don't mean that
- 46:29Speaker 6: it's not true.
- 46:30Speaker 1: I was watching squid Game. If they didn't have the numbers,
- 46:33Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm recognizing what you know what
- 46:36Speaker 1: I mean, If.
- 46:38Speaker 5: They didn't number them, I don't know if I'm recognizing everyone.
- 46:43Speaker 1: I don't know I don't really.
- 46:46Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.
- 46:47Speaker 5: Now listen, let me apologize before an Asian rapper comes
- 46:52Speaker 5: from me.
- 46:52Speaker 1: Jim, I'm sorry, hits me up.
- 46:58Speaker 7: Get what you mean by the numbers?
- 46:59Speaker 9: And oh god, no ever watch comedy, to watch watch comedy,
- 47:08Speaker 9: let her watch comedy.
- 47:11Speaker 8: I wait, back to your special Yes, I was thinking,
- 47:14Speaker 8: and I know you and your wife have been together
- 47:16Speaker 8: for some years, so it's like a hypothetical question for
- 47:19Speaker 8: or more of an ego question. At any point when
- 47:21Speaker 8: that was happening and you found out that it was
- 47:22Speaker 8: your fault because of you know, just your pride and
- 47:25Speaker 8: your ego being hurt, did y'all feel like, man, like,
- 47:27Speaker 8: what if she leaves me because I can't make this happen?
- 47:29Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a part of you that goes through that.
- 47:31Speaker 5: You're just like, will she not find me like as
- 47:33Speaker 5: masculine or not find me attractive? Like will something primarily
- 47:37Speaker 5: happen inside her where like she'll reject me because I
- 47:40Speaker 5: can't do the thing we're.
- 47:42Speaker 1: Put here to do.
- 47:43Speaker 5: So you, yeah, you immediately go through that, and then
- 47:45Speaker 5: like that insecurity takes over and then you're like more
- 47:48Speaker 5: sensitive about certain things if she's not being sweet one
- 47:51Speaker 5: day You're.
- 47:51Speaker 2: Like, is that it?
- 47:52Speaker 1: You know? Did she stop?
- 47:53Speaker 5: So this ship tears apart relationships. That's why I tell people, like,
- 47:57Speaker 5: if you find out there's a problem, do I feel yeah,
- 48:00Speaker 5: IVF immediately instead of like going through the emotional turmoil
- 48:05Speaker 5: that could break you guys up. But but no, She's like,
- 48:09Speaker 5: I mean this is like a little thing in the
- 48:10Speaker 5: special nobody would really understand or even probably catch. But
- 48:13Speaker 5: like the first joke I make in the special is
- 48:16Speaker 5: about this you know about about guys who say we're
- 48:21Speaker 5: pregnant and I was insulting to women.
- 48:23Speaker 1: And then I say, yes like my wife when my
- 48:25Speaker 1: wife says that we made a lot of money. Right.
- 48:28Speaker 1: The last piece to.
- 48:29Speaker 5: The special is when my wife is is saying, uh,
- 48:35Speaker 5: you know when when she thought that she lost the baby,
- 48:38Speaker 5: and I'm apologizing. I'm like, I'm so sorry that this
- 48:41Speaker 5: is my fault and you got to bear the burden,
- 48:43Speaker 5: and she goes, you don't have problems. We have problems,
- 48:46Speaker 5: we'll do it together. So it's this idea that like
- 48:50Speaker 5: in this in the beginning, I'm having this really selfish
- 48:53Speaker 5: thought of like I make the money in the house.
- 48:56Speaker 5: And then when she's dealing with the toughest things she's
- 48:58Speaker 5: ever dealt with in her life. She's that's my fault.
- 49:02Speaker 5: She's still taking on some of it because we're together.
- 49:06Speaker 1: So it's yeah, you find out who people are in
- 49:08Speaker 1: these tough situations. I got a good one. I got
- 49:12Speaker 1: a good one.
- 49:12Speaker 4: What is your conversations like with fifty?
- 49:14Speaker 1: I know, I know fifties. Fifty is the goat.
- 49:16Speaker 3: I know he's he loves you as a comedian, and
- 49:19Speaker 3: I know you pull up for him.
- 49:21Speaker 4: He pulls up for you. What what's your conversation with
- 49:23Speaker 4: him when all this is going on?
- 49:25Speaker 5: Yo, I just yeah, he did I hit him up
- 49:28Speaker 5: or hit me up? Or we're trying to get him
- 49:30Speaker 5: on the pod and he's like, yeah, I'm pulling up.
- 49:31Speaker 5: But like he's the type of person that like he is, Like,
- 49:35Speaker 5: how do I explain it? It's like, you know how
- 49:37Speaker 5: like in wrestling, whether the people are booing or cheering,
- 49:41Speaker 5: like as long as they're making.
- 49:43Speaker 1: A sound, he's not afraid of anything.
- 49:46Speaker 5: There are people that are probably like scared to do
- 49:50Speaker 5: like credit Charlomagne too, Like Charlotte could have easily been like, hey,
- 49:52Speaker 5: the heat is on you and they're gonna be upset
- 49:54Speaker 5: at me doing a pot with you every single week,
- 49:56Speaker 5: and he know, let's take a few weeks off.
- 49:57Speaker 6: But he's been there before, so he understands that's not
- 50:00Speaker 6: rock with my friends.
- 50:02Speaker 2: Stands by me.
- 50:04Speaker 5: Always always, but that's just this is actually, this is
- 50:07Speaker 5: real ones. So he's the type of person also who
- 50:09Speaker 5: like he doesn't care what the trend is. So many
- 50:12Speaker 5: people are like motivated and moved by the trend, and
- 50:16Speaker 5: he's the type of person he don't give a fuck
- 50:17Speaker 5: what the trend is. And so if if there's like
- 50:21Speaker 5: negative energy, you know, give a fuck there's positive, he
- 50:23Speaker 5: don't give a fuck.
- 50:24Speaker 1: He moves to the beatings his own drum.
- 50:25Speaker 5: But I remember Charlotte Mane had a dope thing to
- 50:27Speaker 5: me when when I was going through that last one
- 50:29Speaker 5: and there was like people, there's even people in my
- 50:31Speaker 5: community like comedians like saying some certain things about me,
- 50:35Speaker 5: and Charlott Mane was like, Yo, this is actually good.
- 50:37Speaker 1: You're going through this right now.
- 50:38Speaker 5: I go, why he goes, because you're about to hit
- 50:40Speaker 5: another level when the special comes out.
- 50:43Speaker 1: And you got to pay close attention to who's hating now?
- 50:45Speaker 1: I go, what do you mean?
- 50:46Speaker 2: He goes?
- 50:47Speaker 1: Uh, Because whoever's hating now has been hating the whole time. Absolutely,
- 50:51Speaker 1: But they didn't feel comfortable coming out. They were waiting
- 50:53Speaker 1: for you to look wounded.
- 50:54Speaker 5: It's like laws of the jungle, you know what I mean,
- 50:56Speaker 5: Like the lion only attacks like the baby gazelle, you know.
- 50:59Speaker 5: And uh and like I took note, bro, I got yeah,
- 51:03Speaker 5: I got notes and I can't wait for them to feel.
- 51:10Speaker 1: The life is out.
- 51:11Speaker 4: Right now, right now.
- 51:14Speaker 7: It's number two. What it is? Number two, number number
- 51:19Speaker 7: It was still but they said that.
- 51:20Speaker 1: Show was good, which what I heard it was really I.
- 51:23Speaker 8: Didn't watch it because I didn't want to mess numbers up.
- 51:25Speaker 8: I said, I was gonna wait.
- 51:26Speaker 5: You, but no, I heard running point. Running point is
- 51:29Speaker 5: like it's a global sensation, you know what I mean?
- 51:32Speaker 5: It's uh and that that's a Kate Hudson and chet
- 51:34Speaker 5: Hanks and salutes to them, like shout out to chet Man.
- 51:36Speaker 5: That motherfucker is so funny. And but yeah, we still
- 51:39Speaker 5: gotta knock them out.
- 51:40Speaker 1: But yeah, it was cool. We beat U Bobby de
- 51:42Speaker 1: Niro show.
- 51:43Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Black, this has got to be your algorithm.
- 51:51Speaker 5: Tyler Perry's Beauty and Black came back out.
- 51:54Speaker 7: It's number two. Now he's number three.
- 51:56Speaker 6: No, no, no, you might be looking at the top ten.
- 51:58Speaker 6: You got look at what I was looking at what
- 51:59Speaker 6: I was talking about you guys, that was.
- 52:00Speaker 1: Trending, right, No, top ten works too. Okay, we're a
- 52:04Speaker 1: big weekend. You're happy.
- 52:08Speaker 3: I'm out there watching this week and I'm gonna check
- 52:09Speaker 3: it out this week and me and the wife gonna
- 52:11Speaker 3: relax and watch this.
- 52:11Speaker 2: It's the only way to watch it.
- 52:12Speaker 6: By the way, if you got a wife, you and
- 52:15Speaker 6: your significant other got to watch it together.
- 52:16Speaker 5: The fact that you guys went through it, I'm really
- 52:19Speaker 5: curious your your perspective.
- 52:21Speaker 4: But that's why we talk That's what we talked about.
- 52:23Speaker 3: That's why we make it our business to talk about
- 52:24Speaker 3: it in the book, and we pot about it all
- 52:25Speaker 3: the time because so.
- 52:26Speaker 4: Many people came up to and was like, yeah, we
- 52:28Speaker 4: were dealing with the same thing.
- 52:29Speaker 3: We felt like failures and men came up to me
- 52:31Speaker 3: on the side it was like, I thought it was
- 52:32Speaker 3: just me.
- 52:33Speaker 4: I don't know how to console my wife.
- 52:34Speaker 3: But I mean, once you get through that other side,
- 52:37Speaker 3: you realize it makes you look at your child a
- 52:39Speaker 3: whole lot different. It just is like because it's the
- 52:41Speaker 3: most precious thing in the world. And if you're able
- 52:42Speaker 3: to have a child, you know you you hold that
- 52:44Speaker 3: really really close to your heart.
- 52:45Speaker 4: Yeah, man, but thank you.
- 52:47Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And that's awesome you put in your book.
- 52:49Speaker 5: I hope we destigmatize it, like, I don't want people
- 52:51Speaker 5: to feel ashamed of wanting to have a kid.
- 52:53Speaker 1: And you should have that ship by any means necessary.
- 52:55Speaker 5: Like I feel like that's the thing missing in the
- 52:57Speaker 5: masculinity conversations. All these fucking guys out there saying what
- 52:59Speaker 5: it is to be a man. None of them got kids.
- 53:01Speaker 2: You know. You know what the thing is is your
- 53:02Speaker 2: feminist arc. This is gonna be your feminist or.
- 53:05Speaker 1: Been a feminist.
- 53:05Speaker 2: Broll.
- 53:06Speaker 1: I'm a proud girl, dad. That's right.
- 53:08Speaker 6: I told you having a girl's gonna change your baby.
- 53:10Speaker 7: Girl.
- 53:10Speaker 5: She's thirteen months. Thirteen months. Yeah, I've been trying to
- 53:13Speaker 5: get you on a feminist ship.
- 53:14Speaker 7: For a while.
- 53:15Speaker 2: I've been a feminist.
- 53:16Speaker 1: I know, ever since you got depressed or whatever you got,
- 53:19Speaker 1: ever since.
- 53:21Speaker 2: Since you got anxiety.
- 53:24Speaker 6: Christ But I'm gonna be honest with you. They've gone
- 53:26Speaker 6: too far just having this conversation more, they've gone too far.
- 53:33Speaker 1: I'm on my feministart. You're your mask on this art.
- 53:35Speaker 1: You're back.
- 53:35Speaker 2: You got to bring him back. It's the little.
- 53:39Speaker 8: You got too scared of what being a girl?
- 53:43Speaker 7: Dad?
- 53:43Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's every day is terrifying. But it's also
- 53:45Speaker 5: just like the most beautiful rewarding thing ever. Like she
- 53:47Speaker 5: just walks in the room, she's so excited, gives me
- 53:49Speaker 5: like the big hug, and you're just like, this is
- 53:52Speaker 5: nothing else is important even in life.
- 53:55Speaker 4: All Right, Well, listen Andrews shows Ladies and gentlemen.
- 53:57Speaker 3: It don't be a stranger just because a little short
- 53:58Speaker 3: five ft two miguite over.
- 54:00Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, do you do a podcast where you
- 54:01Speaker 4: can still come up here?
- 54:02Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, I'll come on.
- 54:04Speaker 5: You want to thank you guys for always man, this
- 54:07Speaker 5: is this is legendary Andrew shoutz.
- 54:09Speaker 4: It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that ass up
- 54:12Speaker 4: in the morning.
- 54:13Speaker 2: Breakfast Club.