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Gay Twitter is SO MAD at... people like us?! · NORMAL GAYS Podcast

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  I don't think I have ever been this tired of dating and I'm
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  going to try to get through this without crying, although I can
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  guarantee you there's going to be tears.
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  What happened to trying to build meeting somebody and connecting
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  and having that chemistry and wanting to build something with
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  that person? I don't.
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  Love the filming yourself crying.
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  I think I don't care about that. Well, you would.
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  Because I would do it. And I'm not knocking open
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  relationships either because I've been kicked out of a couple
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  and they're fine. I think that you should be able
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  to laugh at yourself. If I was that guy I I would
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  laugh at his video. Because it's funny.
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  Kicked out of a few open relationships.
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  It's so funny because you know it's true.
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  Hey guys, welcome back to Normal Gaze, where we take on insanity.
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  I'm Brad Palumbo here with Clarkson Lawson.
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  What's? Up guys, Brad has been on a
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  flight this morning, so he's probably going to be grumpy.
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  I'm a cranky. Yeah, it's.
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  Because I got up at like 4:00 AM and got on.
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  A we've been walking on egg shells setting up for this.
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  We're not trying to trigger him. Yeah, yeah.
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  But I don't know what we're talking about.
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  Normally I. This is well, we're going to do
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  the one that you discovered first, your gay.
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  Twitter drama Oh my God, do you have?
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  Strong feelings about this subject I.
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  Didn't know, I wouldn't say like strong feelings but I feel like
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  a lot of it is just a bunch of jealous ugly.
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  Oh, so not strong feelings at all, no.
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  No, I feel like pretty lukewarm. Lukewarm.
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  So wait, why don't you give the like TLDR and I'll play the
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  videos but. So basically there's like this
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  trend in how did. You find this on Twitter.
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  Yeah, that's where all gay conversations are happening.
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  I don't know what your Twitter looks like.
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  His is a lot more political than mine.
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  Mine is like actual news and information.
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  Yeah, I've I've but. Also lots of racist sloth.
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  Yeah, I've outgrown that phase in my life.
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  So now I just focus on gay. No, this is about gay dating.
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  So basically there's trend, not a trend, but like every once in
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  a while there's a hot like conventionally attractive gay
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  guy. Conventionally attractive
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  lesbian. Yeah, but actually
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  conventionally attractive who gets online and complaints about
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  how hard it is to date in a gay? Community.
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  It's very hard, specifically if you want monogamy, if you want
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  more like heteronormative type of dating stuff.
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  And then if they cry, they kind of become like the laughing
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  stock of the people who are like, you're hot, you shouldn't
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  have a problem dating, or like you just want attention.
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  You're like that one. That one dude who's always
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  complaining about grinder and white men.
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  He made a video about this guy too.
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  Of course he did. So this guy that we're going to
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  show a video of, I guess he was really upset, had an experience
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  happened with dating and decided to post his thoughts on Tiktok.
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  Which narrator never do it? Never.
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  No, I say. Do it.
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  If you're going to make like a career chasing clout or
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  something or clicks, but if you're just a rando, don't put
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  yourself out there on the Internet.
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  All that can happen is you'll get bullied.
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  Well, yeah, but that's just that comes with being if you want
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  virality, yeah. Which normal people don't really
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  want. I beg to differ.
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  I think everybody wants to be famous, but some people just
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  aren't scared of it. You have to put on your mic if
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  you want to talk, Mr. Producer. He oh, well, I guess there's
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  some he doesn't want to, but most people I think on social
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  media want to get attention. But anyways, let's play.
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  OK, let's watch. Just giving the get move along
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  hand gestures. I think people like the app.
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  The app. The yap when we.
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  Oh, the yap. Yeah, some people do.
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  Some people hate it. They're like get.
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  To the topic. Get to the point, guys.
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  I'm like, this is like the the whole point is to hear us talk.
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  No. Or do you just do you just let's
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  just play the TikTok reactions like the crazy like.
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  No, we'll do and. Just say nothing.
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  Have you ever, I used to go to this place, now a total tangent
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  to get my haircut, where they would have these like slop
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  channels on the TV where it'd just be like social media videos
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  of pets on repeat doing cute things or like crazy acts.
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  It's like the ultimate brain rot.
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  That's what people want. They want us to be Coco Melon
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  for adults. And I think they want us to be
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  lives of TikTok, Yeah, yeah. But where we say nothing in the.
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  Stem version yeah yeah. Watch non binary.
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  Yep. Watch The Girl with the Unibrow.
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  Which honestly, that is, that is a lot of them.
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  That is us. Everyone like we have to, we
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  have to share our thoughts. I don't know anyways.
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  Let's watch. Play the movie.
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  Yeah. Play.
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  You know that. Some Shrek.
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  You know what I'm talking. About what the This is 4 minutes
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  long. We don't have to watch the whole
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  thing. You think I I haven't watched
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  the whole thing. You think I I watched the video
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  for 4 minutes? No, I didn't.
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  Not yet. Not yet.
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  Now I am. I think I'm the only one who
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  watched the whole thing. Who?
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  Watched the whole thing. When when he sent it.
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  Oh yeah, He was making commentary.
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  I'm like, I didn't even know he said that.
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  I didn't watch it well. We can, we might be able to
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  watch the whole thing maybe. All right.
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  OK, so the guys on our screen now.
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  We're ready to. He's cute.
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  OK. Do we think he's cute?
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  Yes, he's conventionally attacked.
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  Your type. Yeah, he's very your type
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  though. Yeah, he is bearded broad, but
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  he's looks white though. Is he not white?
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  I don't, I don't, I don't know his like.
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  'Cause you like 23. You act like I I can you like
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  that little bit Someones 23andMe?
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  Not really, no. I just like them to have dark
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  features so they don't compete with me.
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  Yeah, but I don't know. He's 23andMe, but I would say
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  he's maybe like, he looks a little Jewish, maybe like
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  Israeli. OK, I don't know.
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  That would be a switch up for you.
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  Would it? From going to from a Muslim to
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  an Israeli, I've. Done both.
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  I I am very diverse, some girls do both and I believe in
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  equality and I think that we can learn from different
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  perspectives. The key to peace in the Middle
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  East is passing around. Clarkson is me.
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  I am peace in the Middle East. All right, play the video.
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  I don't think I have ever been this tired of dating and I'm
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  going to try to get through this without crying, although I can
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  guarantee you there's going to be tears the past, OK?
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  As you're crying. Month or two I have been in two
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  situations with guys that have left me completely depleted,
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  exhausted. Interesting choice, I'm tired.
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  I'm so tired. I'm tired of the OPS.
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  I'm tired of putting myself out there.
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  I am tired of being vulnerable. I'm tired of getting my hopes
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  up. Like when is enough enough?
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  In our community and dating in particular, when is enough
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  enough? We're like in this warped world
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  now where we're always wanting more, always wanting the next
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  best thing, downloading the apps, messaging 100 people a
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  day, like doing Instagram, all these things like it's got to
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  stop with enough. And then you meet someone right
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  from the apps or from wherever and you think it's going so
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  well. You're like, things are good.
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  Like things are so good. It's always almost, it's always
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  almost, you know, even the ones in relationships, they're
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  they're not happy either. You know, most of them, most of
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  them are, aren't happy. And I'm not knocking open
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  relationships, but to assume that you have one fracture in
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  your relationship and now you have to be open.
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  That's the only way to survive. Or when I hear that other
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  couples are saying to their partners, you know, there's a
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  problem. We have to be open.
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  Or else what happened to trying to build meeting somebody and
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  connecting and having that chemistry and wanting to build
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  something with that person? Gone are the times.
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  Those days are over. And I try so hard to come on
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  here and be positive. We can watch more, but I feel
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  like so far he's preaching your language.
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  Yeah, no, I mean, I don't see anything wrong with it and I
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  feel like. I don't love the filming
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  yourself crying. I think I don't care about that.
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  Well, you would. Because I would do it.
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  The thing is, is like, I don't know, I feel like the whole
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  purpose of social media is to be relatable, but.
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  It's performative. I don't think it's performative.
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  If you're actually upset and you want to share.
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  I think it's different. The problem I have is that he's
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  he has an internal problem with dating and he's now making it
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  like a whole. People do extrapolate their
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  experiences a lot. And then, you know, generalize a
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  whole community, which I think you could, that's like maybe
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  what you shouldn't do. But if you're upset, like I get
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  on social media when I'm happy, why can't I get on social media
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  when I'm upset? It's all relatable.
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  And if the whole point is to share parts of yourself, like I
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  would want my followers to know if there's something I'm upset
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  about or maybe something they can relate to and learn from.
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  So I don't have AI. Don't really have them.
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  Yeah. I don't understand what are what
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  are people like outraged by? Well, they're basically, I mean,
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  because it's. So.
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  Because yeah, he's he's he white man attractive man bad.
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  You created these the white man created.
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  These who set that? System up.
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  That's literally it, no? I'm not kidding.
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  Unironically, like white man set that system up or they're going
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  to be like, oh, I know you were at a circuit party, like doing
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  all the stuff that contributes to.
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  This thoughts on how crazy that is because like even if First
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  off that's not true that just only white men set the system
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  up. But even if that were true, I
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  didn't. I know.
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  I had nothing to do with it. Well, it's different if you were
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  part of the culture that is being created that you're now
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  complaining about, I guess. But even if you were like, let's
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  say that you used to be like that, and then now you're
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  realizing that it's wrong. What's wrong with pointing that
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  out? I don't know.
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  So a lot of people are just saying that he's doing it for
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  attention and that he's attractive and if he really
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  wanted to settle down he should probably just change his type
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  and stop going after the bad guy.
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  I mean, did you feel attacked by that?
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  I mean, yeah. 'Cause there's like a little
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  truth to that. There is truth, but it's like
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  you can't really help if you're not attracted to like somebody
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  like you have a type. Yes, but I think you can.
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  Some people make the mistake of looking and repeating the same
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  patterns over and over again and not learning from their
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  experiences. No, I'm I'm talking about the
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  guy in the. Video we literally it's just
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  crazy because like last week I was low key like this.
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  Not that we're everything's fine, but like a little hiccup
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  and like Brad and I Brad and I were having like I was acting
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  like this guy. So now I clearly feel a lot of
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  sympathy towards. Also, and that's only the parts
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  they saw, not the parts we edited.
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  Out. Yeah, well, and, and there's
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  stuff that happened like in in private conversations, but I
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  don't know, I feel like it's entirely OK to be frustrated
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  with dating if you're an attractive person.
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  Specifically, wait, why would it not be just because you're?
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  Because they're saying you have more options.
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  So it's still. But The thing is, is like.
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  But also sometimes no, because sometimes people are intimidated
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  by. You, that is true.
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  And also to my experience, if you are dating within your like
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  bracket of looks, I think if you're dating very hot men,
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  they're more likely to not want to settle down because they have
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  more options because immaturity is a lot easier to like to be if
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  you're hot and you have a bunch of options in front of you.
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  So like, I don't know if you're, I feel like it might be a little
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  bit harder not take for hot men to be able to.
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  Oh, so the hots are the victims? Yes.
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  So to be a privilege. Pretty impression.
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  If they want to settle down and have monogamy and have this, I
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  think specifically in the gay community that is harder to find
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  if you are in the higher bracket of like looks because most of
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  the guys are, they're men, they just want to around and then
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  they don't really want to settle until they're like 40.
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  I will say that also. And that's not.
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  It's a little bit of a reflection as well though that
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  like for example see meeting guys on Grinder and then being
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  shocked when they don't want to date him.
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  That's fair, but if the guy says I want to date you.
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  Yeah, that's true. But there's a lot of.
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  People that you will, you will meet people on these apps to
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  hook up and then they'll say like, I hook them up.
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  But then if I meet somebody, I'm like, well, I do want this.
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  So now I'm looking at this connection differently and I'm
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  going to handle it differently. But I don't think a lot of men
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  are able to do that, or they'll just lie and say they want all
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  of these. Things they really do be.
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  You've had many. Men lie to you.
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  They're liars. Men.
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  Liars. Gay men are The problem with gay
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  men, at the end of the day, is they're just men.
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  They're they are men. And the same issues with men are
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  issues. And then there's two men, so
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  it's exponentially multiplied. And they don't have women that
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  are like to civilize them. Yeah, to gatekeeps.
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  So then the men who are in high demand, literally, it's like
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  they're at a buffet every day. So it's very hard to.
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  Find a low end buffet in most of occasions.
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  Yeah, well, it depends on where you are if you're in South
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  Beach. All right, let's play a little
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  more of this video. And talk about, you know,
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  changing your ways and being a good person.
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  And I tried to make it all of a polished video.
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  And that's not what this is. Because I'm tired.
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  And we want to all act like it's not a problem.
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  We want to all act like this is just normal.
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  The ghosting and the love bombing and the, you know,
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  faking it and, and partying and the apps and messaging, texting
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  and then falling off the face like it's exhausting.
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  You know, for people like me who believe love conquers all, like
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  to me, love is the only drug you need.
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  You find yourself depleted in this community.
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  It's, it's very easy to feel that it's never going to happen,
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  like you were never going to make it to the finish line.
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  And I just don't know where we all went left.
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  I, I genuinely, I don't know where we all went left, where
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  this has just become our norm. This is just how we work.
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  Even when you meet someone that you really, really like and you
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  believe that this is going to be something, what do we all say?
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  But I don't want to jinx it. He's great, but I don't, I don't
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  want to get my hopes up because we're waiting for the ball to
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  drop. We're waiting for something to
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  happen. We're waiting for them to ghost
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  us. We're waiting for them to never
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  text again. Or even when you start dating
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  and then months later you find misalignment or you find that
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  they're not exactly who they thought, who you thought that
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  they were. I mean, it's just I don't know
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  what we have to do to change this.
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  I think a lot of his complaints are just with dating in general,
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  specifically when you're young. I hear not that dissimilar
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  things from young straight people as well.
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  Yeah, I just think gay people mature a little bit later
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  because they they don't have like a biological time clock.
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  And also delayed adolescence. Yeah, because they don't come
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  out until they're like 25. So I think we feel a lot of
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  pressure to like to settle down early because everybody wants
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  to. But like, this is kind of just a
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  part of dating, you know, like waiting for the ball to drop,
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  getting your heart broken, Like, I don't know, I mean.
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  And some of the things like love bombing and ghosting, those are
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  pervasive just in general. But I don't get what's what's.
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  This is so offensive to people like people were.
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  Mocking him. It's literally because of the
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  way he looks. Just because he's.
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  Like they're mocking a hot person who's upset about dating
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  because they can't imagine that you would have any problem
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  dating, which is just like stupid.
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  But I mean, I guess it's just what they do.
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  I don't know. There is something to be said
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  about like the gay community building habits that don't that
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  aren't conducive to wanting monogamy if that's your end goal
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  or you wanting to like build that study relationship.
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  Like if you're hooking up all the time, like that is a drug in
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  and of itself and you're not really built like your body,
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  you're building habits psychologically that will not
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  correlate with the relationship that you think you want.
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  So I think they, they chase after the relationship and then
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  when they get it, they're like, oh, wait, I don't, I don't know
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  if I want this, even though they think they want it because
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  ideally that's what they think they want, but they've built all
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  of these habits that don't, that don't contribute to it.
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  I'm thinking about how. Close your legs.
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  Yeah, close your legs. I mean, maybe open them every
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  once in a while, but maybe just close them a little less.
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  No, I was thinking. About Candace Owens Cliff is
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  when she says she's going. To open up the clinic yeah, I
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  literally just saw that this morning actually, but I was
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  thinking about the guy that I was seeing before the guy that
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  I'm going to tell the story about yeah, the guy that I was
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  seeing before you're. Just going to make me edit this
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  out later. No, I'm not.
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  This is fine. I'm not going to say his name.
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  The guy that I was seeing before that I'm seeing now told me
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  because we like went to coffee, 'cause he wanted closure and he
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  basically said like, 'cause we didn't work because he didn't
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  know if he wanted monogamy. And you were not about to be in
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  that open. Relationship and I'm also not
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  going to sit and wait for somebody to figure that out.
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  Like I'm not I'm not going to do that.
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  But then he was like, after I ended it with with him, he
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  basically told me I didn't realize that I could be enough
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  for somebody because for so long I just never felt like that.
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  And then until I met you, I realized what I wanted and that
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  monogamy was even possible and that somebody would be satisfied
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  with me. So I feel like there's a lot of
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  habits. Yeah.
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  That like contribute to the mindset of that a lot of gays
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  carry into their into their relationships.
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  But anyway, sorry that's. Let's watch the first video
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  mocking this person. OK, yeah, let's get to the good
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  stuff. I'll shut up.
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  At what point is enough gonna be enough?
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  I'm going to try my best not to cry during this interview.
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  I mean video, but there's no promises because what I'm about
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  to talk about is very powerful about something you've probably
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  never thought about in your entire life.
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  Dating these past couple of months, I've been in two
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  situation ships and I know this is going to be shocking, but
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  they were with men, not women. But I'm just tired of being
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  vulnerable. I'm tired of being curious.
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  I'm tired of being passionate. I'm tired of being somebody's
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  silly little rabbit just for it to end up like this every single
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  time. You see, I'm sorry I tried.
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  I'm tired of this community and what's wrong with it.
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  I'm tired of everybody valuing social media and partying when
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  they should be valuing building blocks.
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  Legos and love Legos love. That's what I want to be doing.
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  And I get on these. You're not going to find them on
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  the apps. You're not going to find you're
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  Bob the Builder on the apps. I get on there, I get on
• 17:16
  Grinder, I get on Sniffy's looking for the one that I'm
• 17:19
  going to bring home to Mama and Meemaw.
• 17:21
  And no, it just ends with ghosting and love bombing and
• 17:27
  restraining orders and having to give back the key that you made,
• 17:31
  even though the last couple of weeks had been so perfect.
• 17:33
  So like, why wouldn't you have wanted a key to his apartment?
• 17:36
  But apparently, no, I have to give it back and I have to stay
• 17:39
  500 feet away for whatever reason.
• 17:42
  And I'm just, I'm, I'm sick of it.
• 17:44
  I am sick of it. And, and I'm not knocking open
• 17:48
  relationships either because I've been kicked out of a couple
• 17:51
  and they're fine. But you know, where's the
• 17:53
  happiness? There's no Legos in there.
• 17:55
  Either. And I'm over it.
• 17:56
  And I know that you look at me and you think, oh, his perfect
• 17:59
  social media, his perfect chiseled body.
• 18:02
  And it's like, yeah. And if it can happen to me, I
• 18:07
  can imagine how it's happening to you normals.
• 18:10
  And I'm just, I'm so over it. When am I going to be taken
• 18:13
  seriously? When am I going to stop being
• 18:15
  objectified? When is somebody going to want
• 18:17
  something more out of me than just social media and chiseled
• 18:22
  muscles? I just don't understand it and
• 18:26
  it's not fair. We have to do better, y'all.
• 18:29
  And we've got to fix this now. Nobody wants to love me.
• 18:36
  He. Kind of.
• 18:37
  He's funny, I mean. Because he made a couple of good
• 18:42
  points. The guy did take himself way too
• 18:44
  seriously in the original video where he's like, yeah, I want
• 18:48
  somebody to build Bob the Builder.
• 18:50
  OK, but when you're like really upset, but.
• 18:53
  He was dramatic. I just feel like I would be
• 18:55
  dramatic like that. So I can't, right?
• 18:58
  Yeah, but it makes it authentic. OK, Hitler was authentic.
• 19:02
  OK, what? So you're comparing that guy to
• 19:04
  Hitler? No, I'm comparing you to Hitler,
• 19:06
  actually. And Clarkistan, people do not
• 19:09
  get guided for their religious affiliation just for being ugly.
• 19:15
  I mean, look, it's funny. I think that you should be able
• 19:18
  to laugh at yourself. If I was that guy, I would laugh
• 19:20
  at his video. Because it's funny.
• 19:22
  Kicked out of a few open relationships.
• 19:24
  It's so funny because you know it's true.
• 19:26
  Like, you know that half of these guys have been like the
• 19:30
  third in a relationship. Point also about how I went on
• 19:33
  grinder and Sniffy's and all I wanted to do was hook up.
• 19:36
  I was looking for the one. Yeah.
• 19:38
  I mean, there's something to be said about all of that, but I
• 19:41
  don't think that. But this didn't feel like a mean
• 19:43
  spirited mockery, this stuff. Is like memer.
• 19:45
  It's just like a funny situation.
• 19:47
  I don't know, like you should be able to make a joke about
• 19:49
  things. But the other dude was like an
• 19:52
  your fave. Oh yeah, of course he's.
• 19:54
  Should we? Go to him.
• 19:54
  He's malicious. Yeah, let's just go to him
• 19:56
  before I start going in on this. Well, we need a nickname for
• 19:59
  him. Crusted.
• 20:01
  No Busted. I do think of like a type of
• 20:05
  crust, but I think we have to be specific in the type of crust
• 20:08
  that he is. So I'm thinking like, I crust,
• 20:10
  yeah. Like.
• 20:12
  That's what he reminds me of a little bit.
• 20:15
  I sat next. To a guy, maybe like a wet pool
• 20:17
  booger, you know, No, because those aren't crusted, those are
• 20:23
  wet. So maybe like a dried up wet
• 20:26
  pool booger. I keep saying burger 'cause I'm
• 20:29
  hungry. That was in your And then it
• 20:34
  dried. But we should just call him I
• 20:36
  crust. What we want a DoorDash food.
• 20:39
  Yeah. Are you hungry?
• 20:40
  Are we allowed to DoorDash? OK, let's just let's just.
• 20:46
  OK, let's watch the. Let's watch I crust.
• 20:48
  Let's watch Crusty. No, I crust.
• 20:50
  I like crusty. OK, well I'm going to call him I
• 20:52
  Crust. Imagine your nickname being
• 20:55
  crusty and I crust like if my office.
• 20:59
  And it has nothing to do with his lungs.
• 21:01
  It's no has everything to do with his personality.
• 21:04
  I'm sorry, stop the cap. I am behind the white
• 21:07
  background. Stop the cap, it absolutely has
• 21:10
  something. No, because The thing is, is
• 21:12
  like if he fixed his attitude, maybe like shaved the beard, got
• 21:18
  a workout in, I don't think he'd be an ugly guy.
• 21:20
  I don't think I have I've ever been this tired of dating and
• 21:24
  I'm going to try to get through this without crying.
• 21:26
  Well, I totally understand this critter and see where it's
• 21:28
  coming from. Sometimes I have a hard time
• 21:29
  trusting committed to the right attractive man, you know saying
• 21:32
  or so lonely the gay community because y'all have the cream of
• 21:35
  the crab. Y'all have literally the most
• 21:36
  privilege the you're the majority.
• 21:38
  And when I see some of them complain about being in the gay
• 21:41
  community and how lonely they are, it's like, girl, y'all
• 21:44
  literally built this for yourself.
• 21:46
  Y'all built this system where it's hard of day because you
• 21:49
  expect everybody to have the standard of worshipping men 99%
• 21:54
  of the time. Like and you know, also it's not
• 21:56
  just white gays fault, but like y'all perpetuate a lot of these
• 21:59
  stereotypes that you know the gay community ends up acquiring.
• 22:03
  And of course I'm not saying that this creator does it, but
• 22:05
  when I see other community attractive in the gay community
• 22:07
  complain about how lonely it is, I'm like, and who said that's
• 22:10
  just about who said that system up.
• 22:12
  They expect the entire gay community to been at their well
• 22:15
  and been at their well, but then it's just like them.
• 22:16
  They're like, no, I sorted at my coffee, I sorted at my carbon
• 22:19
  copy. Okay, pair chopped hole.
• 22:21
  Like what are we doing here, girl?
• 22:22
  Yeah, like I get his anger and frustration, but I have a hard
• 22:24
  time believing certain community attractive man, especially if
• 22:26
  they're talking about how hard it is getting in the gay can
• 22:29
  dream cause like girl, what do we really?
• 22:31
  Don't hear so he's just so obsessed with white men.
• 22:34
  It's so annoying. I hate this idea that white men
• 22:37
  can't complain because they're kind.
• 22:39
  Set that system up. That's like, so I'm an
• 22:42
  individual. I have no culpability.
• 22:44
  Also like. Not really true, but.
• 22:45
  It's not white people, it's men. Yeah, like you're missing the
• 22:49
  the actual point. It's men that have set the
• 22:52
  system. Up he's literally just like I
• 22:53
  just I. I agree with a lot of the
• 22:55
  complaints, but I just can't hear a white person.
• 22:57
  He's not part of the problem. And as if he's not obsessed with
• 23:00
  white men sexuality. You're he's.
• 23:02
  Literally saying. His whole thing is like, Oh
• 23:04
  well, you guys just want hot guys to fawn over you.
• 23:07
  You created this, you set the standard in the gay community.
• 23:09
  It's like you're the one setting the standard that everything is
• 23:12
  based off of Looks by judging this guy entirely just because
• 23:15
  he's hot. Like you're the one who is
• 23:18
  contributing to this so-called system.
• 23:21
  And you're not white, so maybe it's a male thing.
• 23:24
  When you see a hot guy and you feel inferior, or if you are hot
• 23:29
  and you feel above, yeah, I crust and you feel above
• 23:32
  someone, that's just social hierarchy in humans,
• 23:35
  specifically in males. I just don't.
• 23:36
  I don't know. I don't know how you can be this
• 23:40
  stupid. What were you going to say?
• 23:42
  I. Was stupid.
• 23:43
  I just felt like that was kind of mean.
• 23:45
  I also have my notes here. What do your notes say?
• 23:47
  This is man, dating isn't all about looks.
• 23:50
  OK, but I agree, but you're not the best messenger for this
• 23:52
  message. No, finding a partner is a lot
• 23:55
  about looks, but it not working out is more about the internal
• 23:59
  of a person rather than the looks of them.
• 24:01
  So that is so to assume that hot people have it easier and aren't
• 24:05
  going to go through the same problems that people.
• 24:06
  Would probably have the easier time hooking up.
• 24:08
  Yeah, or an easier time finding more prospects.
• 24:11
  But when the minute you start dating someone, you're dating
• 24:14
  one person and you become emotionally invested and you're
• 24:16
  going to go through the same problems that anybody does
• 24:18
  specifically if it doesn't work out.
• 24:21
  No, I don't know. So, final thoughts on the gay
• 24:24
  Twitter drama of the week. I don't know, I just feel like
• 24:28
  everybody hates hot people. You're just so aggrieved and
• 24:31
  victimized, huh? You calling me hot?
• 24:33
  I'm saying that you think. You are.
• 24:35
  I never said that. I just said everybody hates hot
• 24:37
  people and Brad automatically made it about me, so I'll take
• 24:41
  the compliment where I can get it.
• 24:43
  All right. Well, I want to compliment our
• 24:45
  members by showing our love for them by responding to their
• 24:48
  comments. I want to fight them.
• 24:50
  The first one did threaten us with a lawsuit, kind of.
• 24:53
  What don't we finally getting the lawsuit we've been craving.
• 24:57
  Bro we would make such contact. I know, I know, I know.
• 25:02
  Well, actually, we're going to talk about the hostage later,
• 25:03
  and I feel like if we keep talking about them, they might.
• 25:05
  Sue us. Oh, they're they're back.
• 25:07
  There's it's worse OK, because of the best way to convince us
• 25:11
  that you're not a hostage is to make a video about how saying.
• 25:13
  We're not a hostage to. Make a video saying Stockholm
• 25:16
  syndrome is not real guys. Oh my God.
• 25:19
  OK, so we'll do. That's coming in a few days.
• 25:23
  Our producer is going to join the chat and list and read us
• 25:26
  our comments. That's a long.
• 25:28
  One this is from dislabled Dali Diva making fun of Clarkson for
• 25:34
  his quote UN quote time blindness and or lack of
• 25:37
  executive function is ableist Brad.
• 25:40
  He is. He has a diagnosed case of ADHD.
• 25:43
  Pause. She.
• 25:45
  Said you have a lack of executive function.
• 25:47
  That's crazy. But I'm the ableist.
• 25:52
  I do not identify with your community, OK?
• 25:55
  I do not have a lack of whatever executive dysfunction.
• 25:59
  There's there's more. It will.
• 26:01
  It gets into some Trump capitalization here.
• 26:04
  These symptoms may be a manifestation of his qualified
• 26:07
  disability under the Americans with Disabilities Act, which
• 26:12
  makes Clark part of the disability community and
• 26:15
  protected class of citizen under the act, and she gives the date.
• 26:20
  I'm disabled. She's dead asses but just saying
• 26:23
  that because I'm ableist to him I'm like violating the ADA but.
• 26:26
  I thought I was the ablest 1. Well, we both are, but you're
• 26:29
  allowed to be ableist because you have a diagnosis.
• 26:32
  Oh, OK. Got it.
• 26:33
  But don't worry, she progresses to coming back to Clarkson
• 26:36
  making fun of the disabled community.
• 26:38
  So this isn't all positive about Clarkson.
• 26:40
  Oh, OK. Good, good.
• 26:42
  I need some haters. This is why neither of you
• 26:44
  should make fun of disabled models who are working.
• 26:47
  By the way, isn't that what about?
• 26:49
  It's because we laughed. At the the disabled model really
• 26:53
  OK. Also, we didn't really laugh at
• 26:55
  her, we laughed at the situation.
• 26:56
  Yes. And I'm sorry, you're not going
• 26:58
  to convince me that's not funny. Just like 2 midgets fighting
• 27:01
  each other will always be hilarious.
• 27:03
  Yeah. Sorry, next we're calling out
• 27:05
  Brad. IMO Brad needs to stop self ID
• 27:09
  ING as having a touch of the tism and get an actual
• 27:12
  diagnosis. It would lend more credibility
• 27:14
  to your critique of the disabled population if you both got rid
• 27:17
  of your own own internalized ableism.
• 27:19
  Oh my God, girl, you are not long for.
• 27:22
  This OK, first of all, the door is.
• 27:24
  There, the broken door. You don't know what the we have
• 27:27
  internalized. It's a lot of, but it ain't
• 27:29
  ableism. But also, I hate this idea that
• 27:31
  like, Oh well, your critique would be stronger if you had a
• 27:34
  diagnosis. It's the same.
• 27:35
  This is like the woke, the the woke thinking of like you can
• 27:39
  speak on that because no, it's the same critique.
• 27:41
  Is it logically sound? Right.
• 27:42
  If you copy and pasted it and put it out of the minds of the
• 27:45
  the mouth of that friggin disabled person, it would still
• 27:48
  be the same argument with the same logic or lack thereof.
• 27:51
  It's this is positionality. It's.
• 27:54
  Stupid we got basically we're. Argue we're argue with the.
• 27:58
  For me to explain this in a disabled way, since Brad's not
• 28:01
  disabled and I'm dumb apparently.
• 28:04
  Not that all disabled people are dumb, but apparently I'm I lack
• 28:07
  executive function. What he's saying is an immutable
• 28:10
  characteristic. Doesn't make your point stronger
• 28:13
  just by having it. Then it but also to be clear,
• 28:16
  like I would be, I would say be nice, but she already said she
• 28:19
  cancelled her membership so oh. Yeah, I mean, I she's been kind
• 28:22
  of going ham in the comments for a while.
• 28:24
  You know what? We support that for you.
• 28:26
  No, we just are going to eat well.
• 28:27
  She said she had a crush on me if you videos back.
• 28:29
  While that was ship sailed. I think that this is a scorned
• 28:33
  lover and I'm so sorry but. But now she thinks you lack
• 28:38
  executive. I lack it.
• 28:39
  Well, that's probably why she was attracted to me.
• 28:41
  Yeah, that's OK. All right, next comment.
• 28:44
  This one's much sweeter, so Dixie Chicks 1765 a few
• 28:48
  questions for you to do y'all consider each other to be some
• 28:53
  of your closest friends. Yeah, I don't think we have many
• 28:56
  friends. So I, I, I don't think it's
• 28:59
  really a choice for us to identify.
• 29:01
  I was going to say we've been friends friends for like a
• 29:05
  little over a year and I would already say I would put you in
• 29:09
  my top three best friends. And I think this helps because
• 29:11
  we just like kind of, this is really just us yapping.
• 29:15
  Like we're it's not that different.
• 29:16
  It's really not that different. Also producer over there, I
• 29:20
  would consider as well because yeah, we have a, we have a group
• 29:23
  chat where I just kind of. And they, like, get along a
• 29:27
  little better without me, 'cause I tism, yeah.
• 29:31
  We're like Clarkson's emotional support animals, Yeah.
• 29:34
  And he's like our source of drama and entertainment.
• 29:37
  Yeah, no, but last week, I don't want to get sappy, but last week
• 29:40
  I was going through a hard time and I leaned on them a lot.
• 29:43
  So that was very sweet. But yes.
• 29:45
  OK. Next question.
• 29:46
  Do you think that if normal gaze ended, y'all would still stay
• 29:49
  close friends I. Think so.
• 29:52
  And then how is the other person?
• 29:53
  I don't know the money. It's like, what's the point?
• 29:57
  Kidding. How has the other person changed
• 30:00
  your life since starting normal gaze?
• 30:03
  This is very deep question. Now I'm probably going to go on
• 30:05
  Reddit, yeah. Brad's going to get snatched.
• 30:11
  I think you have a lot more money.
• 30:13
  I have honestly, I'll be honest. I honestly, I'll be honest,
• 30:17
  yeah, I do lack executive function.
• 30:20
  No, I don't have the structure with my creativity that Brad
• 30:24
  has. And I think that having them has
• 30:28
  helped me a lot with like. My brand master.
• 30:31
  Yeah, like to work. I know like you'll know on my
• 30:34
  personal YouTube channel I barely post but like this has
• 30:36
  been nice to be able to rely on them to do the parts that.
• 30:40
  And to like a set schedule. And it's like, not just because
• 30:43
  it's just up in the air. Because I lack executive
• 30:45
  function, but that actually is true, like I have very bad ADD
• 30:49
  like it's. It's I know you're qualified to
• 30:51
  the Americans. Now that shit is chronic.
• 30:53
  Like it's it's really bad, but OK.
• 30:56
  And and Brad is funny, but really to make this podcast
• 31:00
  work. But you don't think I'm
• 31:01
  entertaining enough? You're entertaining, but the the
• 31:04
  true laughs typically do and I. Think that comedy has to flow
• 31:09
  freely, so that's why I try not to put myself in on such a set
• 31:12
  schedule. But there's a catch 22.
• 31:14
  Maybe the schedule could be a little more set.
• 31:16
  There's a healthy balance. And I feel like we're a little
• 31:19
  off balance. You think so?
• 31:20
  Well, the last two weeks you've been you've been posting.
• 31:23
  I already have another YouTube channel scripted, YouTube video
• 31:26
  scripted. Okay, Brad, how has Clarkson
• 31:28
  changed your life? I already said he's going to
• 31:30
  motivate my looks Maxing. Oh yeah, that's true.
• 31:33
  I also think that Brad's gotten out of his shell a little bit.
• 31:35
  Yeah, no, for sure. Absolutely, people.
• 31:38
  Come in people, come open with like actually being yourself.
• 31:41
  You, that's true. You gave me that advice and
• 31:43
  you've, you've encouraged that to show more of me and not just,
• 31:47
  you know, my work. And I think that's good advice.
• 31:50
  And I'm not quite as ready to show as much as you show.
• 31:54
  I don't know if he'll ever be. Oh, I didn't OK the.
• 31:58
  Next one is did you see the furry post of Brad on the
• 32:01
  subreddit? Oh my God.
• 32:03
  There's a furry post of you on the subreddit.
• 32:04
  I can't at least see my phone gets a hotspot.
• 32:06
  OK, I'll look it up on the computer.
• 32:09
  No, I guess you can tell by our reaction we did not see it.
• 32:12
  What do you think? Somebody just made AIR of me as
• 32:15
  a furry. What?
• 32:16
  What is that? That's me Anime.
• 32:18
  Brad's anime look alike. OK, feeling like Clarkson can
• 32:23
  really be Cam coated with the fat dude from Modern Family is
• 32:28
  the funniness, not the fatness. If an accident does happen, I
• 32:33
  hope he kills me because I don't think I would be a very
• 32:37
  inspiring disabled person. That's what you're Oh.
• 32:39
  Cam is so that checks out. I'm not seeing any furry art.
• 32:45
  Yeah, me either. I'm.
• 32:46
  Just seeing the drawings, he's kind of daddy.
• 32:49
  It's the banana, Nito. Yeah, he kind of he.
• 32:52
  Kind of was Daddy. He is in all the fruit AI
• 32:54
  videos. He actually is always the
• 32:57
  player. It's very weird.
• 32:59
  So check out the normal gaze subreddit and be a part of the
• 33:01
  community. Actually, what we want you to
• 33:03
  do, you can do that too, but we want you to go spam our Spotify,
• 33:07
  go rate our podcast on Spotify, give us a positive rating and
• 33:11
  even. If you don't listen to.
• 33:12
  It even if you're gonna keep watching on YouTube, that's
• 33:13
  fine, but just go. It really helps.
• 33:16
  OK, one more comment. Love you guys both, but one
• 33:19
  thing I've been dying to ask for the Q&A.
• 33:21
  Clarkson, are you on Ozempic or any type of weight loss
• 33:24
  medication? You look really good.
• 33:27
  I've just noticed you've been. Losing weight pretty.
• 33:30
  Fast lately. I actually responded back to
• 33:34
  this comment earlier, but I am on a GLP that I do not recommend
• 33:41
  you get on because I'm not a doctor.
• 33:42
  And it's not legal. I am in the clinical.
• 33:45
  Trials without the clinic or the trial part.
• 33:48
  It is. Trial, trial and error.
• 33:51
  But I'm on a micro dose of it. I take a very small amount
• 33:56
  because I still have to maintain my weight, it's just leaned me
• 33:59
  out a lot and I accidentally took too much when I first
• 34:01
  started and turned into a cancer patient for.
• 34:03
  And I yelled at him. Yeah, for like 2 weeks and I had
• 34:06
  to get like an IV doctor to come in and give me fluids because I
• 34:08
  couldn't stomach water. It was very bad.
• 34:10
  So make sure you do all of this under the supervision of health
• 34:13
  professional. And don't just buy it from a
• 34:14
  dude at your gym. All right, guys, thanks so much
• 34:17
  for tuning into this episode of the Normal Gaze podcast.
• 34:19
  We love you all. Do consider becoming a channel
• 34:21
  member and drop your comments or questions or feedback in the
• 34:25
  comments. And if you remember, we might
• 34:26
  read it on a future episode. But regardless, thank you for
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