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Full Show Podcast: 23 September 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside. Francesca Rudgin on
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Speaker 1: earlier is show Where's One roof Love?
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Speaker 2: Where You Live?
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Speaker 1: News talks, the'd be Good.
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Speaker 2: Morning, Welcome to early edition. I'm Francisco Budkin filling in
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Speaker 2: for Ryan who is on drives this week. Great to
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Speaker 2: have you with us. You most welcome to contact me
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Speaker 2: anytime this morning. You can flict me a text on
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Speaker 2: ninety two ninety two, or you can email me at
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Speaker 2: Francesca at newstooks atb dot co dot MZ. On the
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Speaker 2: show today, what impact will the accelerated four hundred and
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Speaker 2: thirteen million announced yesterday for school property have on the
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Speaker 2: construction sector? We look at the pros and cons of
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Speaker 2: the digital driver's license, and the long awaited overhaul of
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Speaker 2: the Holidays Act will be announced today. We find out
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Speaker 2: what's on businesses wish list. The agenda the UN General
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Speaker 2: Assembly has been underway in New York. Many things to
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Speaker 2: discuss today. Russian drones in Polish airspace.
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Speaker 3: These latest acts are dangerous and reckless. They are a
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Speaker 3: deliberate attempt to undermine the territorial integrity of sovereign nations
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Speaker 3: and European security. They risk miscalculation, they open the door
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Speaker 3: to direct armed confrontation between NATO and Russia.
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Speaker 2: France is gearing up to join the UK, Canada and
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Speaker 2: Australia and recognizing a Palestinian state.
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Speaker 4: The more countries that recognize Palestine, the more hope it
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Speaker 4: gives for action, for change, for a push to get
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Speaker 4: those ceasefire talks back going again, because they really have
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Speaker 4: faltered in recent weeks, and many would say we're further
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Speaker 4: away from a deal at this point than any time
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Speaker 4: in the last since January.
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Speaker 2: Really, our foreign Minister Winston Peters is there, but still
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Speaker 2: no word on where New Zealand stands. Charlie Kirk's memorial
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Speaker 2: service in Phoenix, Arizona, brought in thousands. His wife, Erica,
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Speaker 2: delivered a tearful speech.
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Speaker 5: On the Cross.
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Speaker 6: Our Savior said, Father, forgive them.
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Speaker 1: For they not know what they do.
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Speaker 7: I forgive them.
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Speaker 2: And finally, Trump says he may have the answer to autism.
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Speaker 2: Reports suggest officials will link it to pregnant women using thailanol,
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Speaker 2: which as we also know as paracetamol. Trump's promising and
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Speaker 2: amazing announcement saying autism is out of control and they
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Speaker 2: may know why.
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Speaker 1: You'll see what it is tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: We have various things, but you'll see what it is.
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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a very important as
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Speaker 1: conference and we want things to take them back immediately.
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Speaker 1: There's obviously something artificial that's really wrong that we think
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Speaker 1: we know what that is.
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Speaker 2: And that's the agenda.
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Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with
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Speaker 1: Francesca Rutkin and one roof Love where you Live, News.
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Speaker 2: Talk said, be well, we're all about maintenance this week,
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Speaker 2: aren't we. On Sunday the government was all talk about
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Speaker 2: building more car parks and replacing boilers and adapting facilities
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Speaker 2: at our hospitals. And if that didn't get the message
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Speaker 2: across that the government is doing everything it can to
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Speaker 2: grow the trade and construction sector. Yesterday Eric Stanford announced
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Speaker 2: trades would be working and our schools over summer. So
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Speaker 2: after the GDP hiccup last week, the government is looking around.
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Speaker 2: It's going, okay, what have we budgeted for that we
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Speaker 2: can bring Ford and accelerating maintenance and building its schools
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Speaker 2: is a pretty good start. It's a lot of like
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Speaker 2: the health funding. The four hundred and thirteen million package
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Speaker 2: consists of old and new money. There's about fifty eight
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Speaker 2: million of it is new money, the rest existing, some
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Speaker 2: brought forward. I think this is a good idea, it
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Speaker 2: makes sense. It's quick adaptive behavior by the government. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you do wonder if they could have done it earlier.
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Speaker 2: Maybe Now though the government is listening to kiwi's out
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Speaker 2: there who are telling them they are not thriving in
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Speaker 2: twenty five. I can only see one problem which may
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Speaker 2: no longer be a problem considering these tough times. But
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Speaker 2: I've never been able to get a trade to work
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Speaker 2: over summer franchiers.
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Speaker 8: Good.
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Speaker 2: Now, that's a bit cheaking of rude, isn't it? And
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Speaker 2: I might get told off because coming up next we've
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Speaker 2: got Malcolm Fleming with us. He's the Certified Builder's chief executive.
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Speaker 2: He's going to talk to me about the reality of
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Speaker 2: this funding and the impact it will have. If you
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Speaker 2: are a tradee though, how do you feel about yesterday's announcement?
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Speaker 2: You're most welcome to text me on ninety two ninety two.
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Speaker 2: You're with Early Edition. It's ten plus five.
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Speaker 1: News and views you trust to start your day. It's
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Speaker 1: Early Edition with Franchesca Runkin and one roof Love where
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Speaker 1: you live news talks that'd.
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Speaker 2: Be today is of course the doctor's strike, and look,
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Speaker 2: I really feel for you if you're one of the
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Speaker 2: thirteen thousand affected patients by the senior doctors and dentists
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Speaker 2: strike today. I don't mind people fighting for what they
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Speaker 2: believe in, and I understand there are some fundamental issues
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Speaker 2: with the system that need fixing, but this has really
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Speaker 2: gone on for long enough. Sympathy for either side is
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Speaker 2: starting to wane. There has been a lot of finger
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Speaker 2: pointing as to who is to blame for these strikes today,
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Speaker 2: but at this point, more than a year down the track,
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Speaker 2: I'd have to suggest both sides need to take some
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Speaker 2: responsible for this. I think it's time we put our
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Speaker 2: big boy and big girl pantsil and got the sorted,
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Speaker 2: don't you think Texas ninety two ninety two Right as
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Speaker 2: I mentioned the government's pumping more money into schools to
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Speaker 2: prop up our struggling construction sector fifty eight million and
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Speaker 2: new funding and one hundred and seventy five million brought
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Speaker 2: forward funding. We'll go into maintenance work and fast tracking
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Speaker 2: school infrastructure. Nationwide constructions and deep decline down nearly ten
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Speaker 2: percent over the past years, so the tradees will be celebrating.
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Speaker 2: Malcolm Fleming, certified builder's chief executive, joins me.
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Speaker 8: Now morning Malcolm, Good morning, Francesca. Thank you for inviting
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Speaker 8: me on your program.
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Speaker 2: Oh that's all right. Hey, Look is this was this
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Speaker 2: good news yesterday? How needed is this?
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Speaker 8: It is very much needed And follows up from last
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Speaker 8: week when we're talking about gd Do you think it's
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Speaker 8: across the country eroading and constructions downward trendo that was
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Speaker 8: two point two percent, So we're talking about a good
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Speaker 8: jolt of investment coming quite quickly by the sound of
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Speaker 8: it as well. Is very welcome news.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, what difference do you think it will make to
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Speaker 2: the construction industry? I mean, can we measure how many
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Speaker 2: jobs it might create.
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Speaker 8: We can't measure how many jobs it will pay. But
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Speaker 8: I think it's fair to say that it will allow
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Speaker 8: builders and sub trades as well. So this is the
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Speaker 8: plumbers and electricians and so forth to get a sort
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Speaker 8: of forward workload of of projects ahead of them that
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Speaker 8: I can start relying on depending on where you are
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Speaker 8: in the country, and it can vary on what that
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Speaker 8: forward workload looks like. It is very very variable. So
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Speaker 8: for those who are thinking about their businesses, I can
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Speaker 8: keep the current staff levels. This is an opportunity to say, yes,
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Speaker 8: the economy is starting to shift and here some work
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Speaker 8: that they can start quoting on coming up really quick.
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Speaker 2: And look, there's talk about the fact trade is going
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Speaker 2: to be working over summer, but I imagine that the
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Speaker 2: impact of this will be longer than just the summer.
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Speaker 2: I mean, how long do you think it will keep
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Speaker 2: the industry going for well?
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Speaker 8: Schoolwork traditionally is that a lot of it is done
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Speaker 8: over the summer period because it's no easier. Yep, yeah,
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Speaker 8: around schools, around the rest of it. So they are
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Speaker 8: the trades are quite used to that type of work.
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Speaker 8: I just really want to emphasize that it's a good
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Speaker 8: push of work now that is very much needed and
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Speaker 8: will start giving a bit more confidence back into the market.
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Speaker 8: So even though I'm going to conference as our own
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Speaker 8: one setifed bild a conference a few months ago. Now
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Speaker 8: in place like zibbil so building Jet, there is a
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Speaker 8: sort of quite confidence around there that better days are
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Speaker 8: coming down the track. And this is an example that
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Speaker 8: the better day is starting to emerge.
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Speaker 2: So Malcolm, it sounds like it's a good short term solution.
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Speaker 2: What about you know, are there other ways that the
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Speaker 2: government could be giving the constructed construction industry a bit
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Speaker 2: of a boost.
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Speaker 8: Well, I think this is an example that the government
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Speaker 8: is starting to listen to the conceit ends of industry
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Speaker 8: that the pipeline will work for. Some areas like school works,
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Speaker 8: like community housing have been closed off over the last
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Speaker 8: couple of years and it's starting to see the impact
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Speaker 8: that that has had that we've had people exiting our business,
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Speaker 8: so our industry going overseas or just leaving the industry
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Speaker 8: and the priority and if we're continue to go as
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Speaker 8: we are, there's going to be a real issue in
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Speaker 8: the industry. Beyud A gear up again when the work
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Speaker 8: starts coming in, and that's already been a RAE main
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Speaker 8: concern of ours as well. The other good news about
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Speaker 8: all this just putting aside it's a construction industry. It's
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Speaker 8: good news for schools. It's critical our country's children be
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Speaker 8: educated in the classrooms that are fit for purpose, that
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Speaker 8: are warm, dry and healthy spaces, and that they need
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Speaker 8: good designers and good builders to make that happen.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I was a little bit rude before Malkolman I said,
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Speaker 2: I've really struggled to get tradees to work over summer,
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Speaker 2: but I suppose needs must.
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Speaker 8: It is very much a case, Francesca. I'll think you
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Speaker 8: that if those aren't going on the holiday this summer, though,
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Speaker 8: they'll be pleased to be able to put that aside.
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Speaker 2: Malcolm Fleming, thanks so much for your time this morning.
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Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Malcolm is the Certified Builder's Chief Executive. It
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Speaker 2: is a seventeen past five year with early edition The News.
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Speaker 1: You Need this Morning and the in depth analysis early
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Speaker 1: edition with Francesca Rudkin and one roof Love where you Live.
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Speaker 2: News Talks at Me nineteen past five. Very quickly. Are
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Speaker 2: you a runner? Are you a marathon runner? Harry Stiles
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Speaker 2: took part in the Berlin Marathon yesterday. He did it
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Speaker 2: in under three hours, two hours and fifty nine. In
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Speaker 2: March he ran the Tokyo Marathon. He did it in
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Speaker 2: three and a half hours. We'll just under three and
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Speaker 2: a half hours. I've got some new respect for Harry Starles.
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Speaker 2: That's pretty impressive, isn't it. And I had a friend
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Speaker 2: running it who said it was very hot and humid
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Speaker 2: conditions as well. Very impressive. Right, New Zealand is one
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Speaker 2: step closer to a wallet free future. Digital services in
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Speaker 2: to Judith Collins says digital driver's licenses could be rolling
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Speaker 2: out by the end of the year. It means you
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Speaker 2: won't need to carry your wallet to the bar or
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Speaker 2: when you're driving. The idea is to make your life easier,
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Speaker 2: but it also raises safety questions. Andy Higgs, digital Identity
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Speaker 2: New Zealand executive director, joins me.
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Speaker 8: Now, good morning Andy, Oh, good morning, Princession.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so do these changes sound positive to you?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, they are that we're wise to be skeptical.
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Speaker 2: Okay, what should we be skeptical about?
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Speaker 9: Well, I mean if you look at what's happened around
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Speaker 9: the world with digital identity in places that.
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Speaker 8: Are not like us, like.
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Speaker 9: Estonia or China or other countries, they you become a
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Speaker 9: number right and you know that someone was telling me
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Speaker 9: about their trip to the Middle East the other day
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Speaker 9: and they arrive and has they got second went the hospital,
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Speaker 9: and the hospital already knew everything about them. So you
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Speaker 9: don't want to go down that track. And we're not,
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Speaker 9: but I think a lot of people mistakenly think we are,
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Speaker 9: which is which is fine. But we've got a big
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Speaker 9: job to dour on the education front. So we're doing
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Speaker 9: a bit differently.
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Speaker 2: Down here, So Andy, maybe you could can help us
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Speaker 2: understand how this tech is going to work. Is it
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Speaker 2: like Apple pay or will there be a two factor
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Speaker 2: authentic I can.
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Speaker 9: Never say this with two factor authentication.
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Speaker 2: Authentication, thank you, indication. No, I can never say it
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Speaker 2: actually ending. It's just one of those words.
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Speaker 9: Yeah. No, So there is security built into the system,
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Speaker 9: but really the first thing to understand is it's not
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Speaker 9: a two sided marketplace. You know, it's not Apple sucking
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Speaker 9: up all our data and controlling our lives. It's actually well,
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Speaker 9: there's actually four parts to the to the infrastructure, so
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Speaker 9: it takes a bit of explaining, but I'm good to
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Speaker 9: go if you if you've met me. Basically, there's an
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Speaker 9: issuer of of a credential. We call it a credential,
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Speaker 9: which is a global standard, and there's the three global
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Speaker 9: standards that are in popular use and allows you to
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Speaker 9: issue the physical identity as what's effectively an encrypted piece
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Speaker 9: of data or a token digital token. Then you've got
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Speaker 9: the the holder, which is which is us, you know,
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Speaker 9: the holder of the token, which in the in the
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Speaker 9: case of the digital identity, it's it's it's held on
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Speaker 9: your device, so your phone you mentioned the smartphone in
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Speaker 9: in what we what they call a wallet, but it's
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Speaker 9: not really a wallet. It's more of a kind of
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Speaker 9: viewer of the encrypted data. And and then you've got
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Speaker 9: the that's the sect and past part. And then the
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Speaker 9: third part is the verification, which is the relying party,
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Speaker 9: which which could be the bar, it could be the
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Speaker 9: police officer that's just pulled you over. Yeah, they're the
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Speaker 9: relying party. And there's been a whole movement around the
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Speaker 9: world because it's actually decentralized this method. So there's a
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Speaker 9: whole movement around the world talking about no phoning homes.
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Speaker 9: So what you don't want is the issuer seeing every
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Speaker 9: time you've used your your credential. So when the relying
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Speaker 9: party checks your digital credential, that you know the issuer
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Speaker 9: of it in this case, the TA or the government
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Speaker 9: won't know that you've presented the government.
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Speaker 2: The government can't be looking at what you're doing with it.
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Speaker 9: And storing of data. There's no storing of data. And
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Speaker 9: it's basically what's called we've we've we've implemented this new
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Speaker 9: law called its Identity Services Trust Framework. It's a voluntary regime,
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Speaker 9: but that that points to a source of trust, a
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Speaker 9: source of trust outside that that triangle of actors. So
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Speaker 9: it could be a government source of trust or it
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Speaker 9: could be a non government source of trust. And that's
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Speaker 9: really the big opportunity Easier London to preserve greater privacy
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Speaker 9: and control for every day the easy Landers.
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Speaker 2: Okay, it sounds like they've thought about this. Thank you
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Speaker 2: for talking us through that, Andy, appreciate that. I'm going
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Speaker 2: to give you my thoughts around the driver's license in
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Speaker 2: just a moment. It is twenty four past five, the early.
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Speaker 1: Edition for All the Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News.
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Speaker 8: Talks that Be.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so here is my take around the Digital Services
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Speaker 2: Minister due to Collins's plan to introduce digital driving licenses
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Speaker 2: or driver licenses by the end of the year. Okay,
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Speaker 2: so on its own, you wonder what's the point of
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Speaker 2: moving in this direction when we have perfectly good driver's
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Speaker 2: licenses in our back pocket. But it's not really about
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Speaker 2: the driver's license. It's about creating an app like New
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Speaker 2: South Wales has, which allows people to do a whole
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Speaker 2: lot of government related transactions simply and easily from their phones,
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Speaker 2: things like your car registration, are you waff paying road
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Speaker 2: user charges and road tolls, both of which we might
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Speaker 2: be doing a little bit more of in the future.
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Speaker 2: Inland revenue and tax payments can be dealt with through it,
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Speaker 2: dealing with superannuation and benefit payments, even maybe paying parking tickets.
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Speaker 2: You can do the lot right, which makes sense. We
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Speaker 2: deal with so much of this online already, why not
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Speaker 2: put it all in one place. So New South Wales
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Speaker 2: they rolled out the digital driver's license in twenty nineteen
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Speaker 2: and today over eighty percent of drivers use their driver's
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Speaker 2: license via the app. It is good to see though
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Speaker 2: that the Minister acknowledges we need to have choice around this.
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Speaker 2: A digital license system can't exclude those who don't have
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Speaker 2: access to the necessary technology or simply prefer to keep
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Speaker 2: things offline. Groups like the elderly, rural communities and areas
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Speaker 2: with poor connectivity and people with low incomes could be
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Speaker 2: disproportionately affected by a full switch to digital, So it's
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Speaker 2: good Kiwis will be given the choice to go digital
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Speaker 2: or stay with the plastic. Digital licenses may be a modern,
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Speaker 2: forward thinking move, but they do come with privacy risks.
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Speaker 2: If we're just sort of talking about this, you can
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Speaker 2: put all the security in place you like, but no
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Speaker 2: system is entirely immune to cyber attacks or accidental or
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Speaker 2: intentional leaks. As I mentioned, much of what we do
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Speaker 2: is already online, and I appreciate the IDs will be
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Speaker 2: decentralized and no data will be stored next to personal information.
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Speaker 2: But as that use of the app increases, will that
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Speaker 2: remain the case? Now? I am probably sounding a little paranoid,
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Speaker 2: but after having almost fallen for a sophisticated scam which
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Speaker 2: used hacked information, I'm not relaxed about the amount of
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Speaker 2: data I have online. So if we're going to do this,
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Speaker 2: we've got to do it well. This can't be rushed,
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Speaker 2: and it must be the best version it can be
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Speaker 2: from the start. So I'm a person who never buys
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Speaker 2: the first version of a piece of tech. I always
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Speaker 2: give a provided time to sort out the kinks. I
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Speaker 2: like to buy the second or third generation version. And
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Speaker 2: I feel the same about the digital driver's licenses. I
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Speaker 2: can understand how practical they could be. I can appreciate
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Speaker 2: how bringing everything together could make dealing with numerous government
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Speaker 2: departments easier. It will even make creating fake licenses harder
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Speaker 2: for the kids to get into r and v so
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Speaker 2: I'm well up for it as long as I can
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Speaker 2: make the move when I'm ready. Can to hear your thoughts,
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Speaker 2: You can text on ninety two ninety two with news
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Speaker 2: Talks ab.
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Speaker 1: The first Word on the News of the Day, Early
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Speaker 1: edition with Francesca Rudkin and one roof Love Where you
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Speaker 1: live News Talks'd be.
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Speaker 6: Yes.
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Speaker 2: This is early edition on newsbok Zebbe. I'm Francisco Rudkin
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Speaker 2: filling in for Ryan who is on Drive today. Thank
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Speaker 2: you for being with us if you are looking for
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Speaker 2: something to do with the kids over the school holidays.
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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift announced in the weekend that she is releasing
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Speaker 2: a movie. It's called the Official Release Party of a
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Speaker 2: show Girl. It's to celebrate the new album which was
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Speaker 2: coming out. It's an eighty nine minute film. When it
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Speaker 2: was announced on Sunday, I couldn't find evidence of it anywhere.
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Speaker 2: She said it's going worldwide, it'll be in New Zealand.
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Speaker 2: Couldn't find evidence of it anywhere yesterday. Yesterday though, it
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Speaker 2: has popped up in cinema schedules, so it's been announced
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Speaker 2: that it's event. Cinema is saying it's going to be
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Speaker 2: screening on the fourth of the tenth fourth of October,
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Speaker 2: which kind of makes sense. I think it's screening on
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Speaker 2: the third internationally, so it's only running for a couple
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Speaker 2: of days. That's going to be the last weekend of
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Speaker 2: the holiday, so by then you might want to drop
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Speaker 2: the kids off and just leave them for an hour
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Speaker 2: and a half and pick them up a little bit later.
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Speaker 2: But I imagine that that it's going to be they
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Speaker 2: will be busy those sessions, so you just might want
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Speaker 2: to keep an eye on that. I don't know when
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Speaker 2: the tickets come on out. There was very little information,
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Speaker 2: but it is coming right in the next half hours.
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Speaker 2: So we're going to head to Australia where more details
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Speaker 2: have been released on the outrage. It's been linked to
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Speaker 2: three deaths, and at two pm this afternoon, the long
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Speaker 2: awaited overhaul to the Holidays Act will be announced. We're
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Speaker 2: going to find out you know what businesses are hoping
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Speaker 2: to hear.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, franchise good.
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Speaker 2: Oh there we go, love it another sting. Thank you
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Speaker 2: for the text though we were talking earlier about the
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Speaker 2: maintenance work at schools and LORI text to say morning Francesca.
19:34
Speaker 2: Finally a government that sees the wisdom of doing necessary building,
19:37
Speaker 2: a maintenance work and a downturn, unlike during the GFC,
19:41
Speaker 2: keep our trades here and their families fed. Talking about
19:44
Speaker 2: the digital ID, a text reads, I'm personally not keen
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Speaker 2: on this digital license. We've already seen private information access
19:52
Speaker 2: previously in this country. Fingers crossed. They actually give us
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Speaker 2: the option, as I will be keeping my hard copy license.
19:57
Speaker 2: Plus what happens if your phone goes flash? Are we
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Speaker 2: to get fined for not producing a license?
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Speaker 10: First?
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Speaker 2: Yees, you will get the option, and I think that's
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Speaker 2: very sensible. There's another way to do it. You will
20:07
Speaker 2: absolutely have the option. You can pick and choose. And
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Speaker 2: do you know what that was? The second thing that
20:12
Speaker 2: crossed my mind was the phone. I hate the fact
20:14
Speaker 2: that we're going I'm going to be more reliant on
20:15
Speaker 2: my phone. I have to keep it charged, which I'm
20:17
Speaker 2: going to be honest, sometimes I'm not very good at
20:20
Speaker 2: another digital idea is morally wrong. Privacy and control concerns
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Speaker 2: government over each cyber attacks and malware, etc. More of
20:28
Speaker 2: our personal liberty has been taken away. So a lot
20:31
Speaker 2: of opinion there on the digital driver's license. But the
20:34
Speaker 2: good news is you can make your own decision. Right,
20:37
Speaker 2: let's head around the country and adjoining us now from
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Speaker 2: Dunedin callumproc to good morning morning, Francesca.
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Speaker 8: Right.
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Speaker 2: Food demand in Queenstown Lakes District could triple by twenty fifty.
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Speaker 11: Ye know this is being able to really wake up
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Speaker 11: call for the Queenstown Lakes area. A new food resilience
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Speaker 11: report reveals that the region imports ninety five percent of
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Speaker 11: its food. The district's six supermarkets hold less than a
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Speaker 11: week's supply at any one time, and by the mid
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Speaker 11: twenty fifties, demand will reach ninety five thousand tons per year.
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Speaker 11: So the report authors say it's concerning that if there
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Speaker 11: was to be a major weather event or earthquake, shelves
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Speaker 11: on those supermarkets in those supermarkets could be empty within days.
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Speaker 11: They say, any disruption to the food chain would hit
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Speaker 11: the Queenstown region really hard. And this report reveals how
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Speaker 11: exposed it truly is.
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Speaker 2: And the weather in need and today callum early.
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Speaker 11: Morning rain for us today, then the chants of shower
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Speaker 11: this afternoon, the highs today thirteen, thank you so much.
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Speaker 2: Claire Sherwood is in christ Church and Canterbury University students
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Speaker 2: are lacing up their running shoes for a seventy two
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Speaker 2: hour runathon for men's mental health today.
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Speaker 12: Claire, Yes, Francisca. This is the student group that Lads
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Speaker 12: Without Labels. They're hosting their fifth run seventy two. This
21:53
Speaker 12: is where the community run non stomp lamps around the
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Speaker 12: campus in order to raise money for men's at Mental
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Speaker 12: Health Services. AD's co president to Oscar Bloom has told
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Speaker 12: us this is going to be their biggest year. Yes, there,
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Speaker 12: aiming to raise one hundred thousand and seventy two dollars
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Speaker 12: twenty eight thousand dollars more than they did last year.
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Speaker 12: He says masculinity is about asking for help and everyone
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Speaker 12: should have access to care. He says it's beautiful how
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Speaker 12: the Canterbury student population rallies and recognition that mental health
22:21
Speaker 12: really does affect everyone.
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Speaker 2: Have they got good weather for it today?
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Speaker 12: Claire, Yes, good news, fine, some cloud increasing a bit
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Speaker 12: later this afternoon. There is this slight chance of a
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Speaker 12: shower but not looking too likely. Lightwins and the high
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Speaker 12: should be nineteen.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Claire and Max toll Is in Wellington.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Max, good morning. Oriental Beach is getting a
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Speaker 2: sand top up.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it feels a little wrong covering the story today,
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Speaker 7: considering it's absolutely hosing down at the moments and going
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Speaker 7: to the beach probably the last thing on people's minds.
22:48
Speaker 7: But yes, Central Oriental receiving a fresh top up of sand.
22:53
Speaker 7: This is something that happens here semi regularly. Sound from
22:56
Speaker 7: a quarry and Dunedin is going to be shpped here
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Speaker 7: and spread across Oriental Bay's three main beaches. It costs
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Speaker 7: the city council about eight hundred thousand dollars. Access to
23:05
Speaker 7: the beach is limited for a few weeks. The council
23:08
Speaker 7: initially brought twenty two thousand tons of sand from Golden
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Speaker 7: Bay and Nelson more than twenty years ago for Oriental
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Speaker 7: and these top ups have been happening bi annually since
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Speaker 7: twenty fifteen.
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Speaker 2: Is the weather going to ease today? Max?
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Speaker 7: It should later rain heavy this morning and yeah, clearing
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Speaker 7: this afternoon, strong northerlyast fifteen the hay.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much and never written man who was
23:30
Speaker 2: in the studio with us morning with her own microphone.
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Speaker 5: That's right, good, it's working today, Good.
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Speaker 2: Morning, fantastic. Yes, an open funeral home is Langtise. More
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Speaker 2: than seven hundred unclaimed urns containing human remains.
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Speaker 5: That's right now.
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Speaker 13: Look some of these have been stored for close to
23:45
Speaker 13: a century. Morrison's Funerals located in Henderson and Gleninis inherited
23:51
Speaker 13: looks several of these year urns, I don't say uns
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Speaker 13: urns after the closure of other funeral homes looking after
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Speaker 13: some of them back from the nineteen thirties and the forties.
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Speaker 13: So it's asking for anyone who may have a loved
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Speaker 13: one whose ashes were never collected to get in touch.
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Speaker 5: See canter it. That's a lot.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot.
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Speaker 13: So they've got a deadline for December the first, wanting
24:13
Speaker 13: these ones to be claimed. All unclaimed ashes are going
24:16
Speaker 13: to be interred. This is an among the lawn cemetery plot.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
24:20
Speaker 13: And the weather in Auckland today well, rain heavy at
24:23
Speaker 13: times from late morning. We've got thunderstorms possible north of
24:26
Speaker 13: Auckland City nor the least strong at times.
24:28
Speaker 5: You know, that's fantastic high of eighteen.
24:31
Speaker 2: Just perfect for the school holidays.
24:33
Speaker 5: I know, what are the kids? You keep them inside
24:37
Speaker 5: in door activities, red escape.
24:39
Speaker 2: It's good to get out and get a bit of
24:40
Speaker 2: fresh air. But a rain doesn't hurt you. Next off
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Speaker 2: Business, and we are heading to Australia. Donna de Mayo
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Speaker 2: was with us. Good morning, Donna, good morning. So you
26:07
Speaker 2: got some more details on this Optus triple zero outage.
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Speaker 10: Yes, well, it was last Thursday that there was this
26:15
Speaker 10: catastrophic triple zero outage, that is people could not get
26:19
Speaker 10: through to emergency services. Now the outage is linked to
26:23
Speaker 10: three deaths across two states that South Australia and Western Australia.
26:27
Speaker 10: We've heard from Optus chief Stephen Rue and he says
26:30
Speaker 10: it was a network upgrade that prevented people from making
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Speaker 10: those triple zero calls. It affected about six hundred households
26:37
Speaker 10: in South.
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Speaker 14: Australia, Western Australia, Northern Territory and now we've learned even
26:41
Speaker 14: a part of New South Wales. Optus has even admitted
26:45
Speaker 14: that the process was not followed after it missed at
26:48
Speaker 14: least five warnings of the zero outage. Communications Minister Anika
26:54
Speaker 14: Wells yesterday said that Telco has no excuses after what happened,
26:58
Speaker 14: and she has promised that Optus will suffer significant consequences
27:03
Speaker 14: major financial penalties are likely, and we know that in
27:07
Speaker 14: twenty twenty three, so not so long ago, Optus was
27:10
Speaker 14: fined twelve million dollars for similar failures. We also have
27:15
Speaker 14: heard the Guardian reports that the Communications Regulator says it
27:19
Speaker 14: wasn't informed of the outage until hours after it was resolved,
27:24
Speaker 14: and the company has provided inaccurate information as to what
27:29
Speaker 14: happened at that point.
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Speaker 2: The story just keeps getting worse and worse, doesn't it, Donna.
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Speaker 10: Yes, the PM says that Optus's behavior was completely unacceptable.
27:38
Speaker 2: Don't mean know that?
27:39
Speaker 6: Yes?
27:40
Speaker 2: And look, your Prime Minister is preparing to address the
27:42
Speaker 2: UN General Assembly on Palestine.
27:45
Speaker 10: Yes, so we have actually well, the PM is due
27:48
Speaker 10: to deliver a major address in regard to Palestinians, the
27:53
Speaker 10: recognition of Palestine, sorry, at the UN General Assembly today,
27:57
Speaker 10: and we know that Anthony Albanizi will tell the international
28:00
Speaker 10: community why Australia is joining the UK and Canada to
28:03
Speaker 10: recognize Palestine. A few things expected that he will mention
28:07
Speaker 10: is that we must break, as he put it, we
28:09
Speaker 10: must break cycle of violence and build something better.
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Speaker 15: But interestingly, we've heard from the opposition leader Susan Lee.
28:15
Speaker 15: She's written to us Republicans to reassure Congress members that
28:20
Speaker 15: a coalition government would withdraw the recognition of a Palestinian state.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, don I.
28:26
Speaker 5: Have a good day, Thank you, Francisco.
28:32
Speaker 2: It is ten to sex right. Major changes a head
28:35
Speaker 2: for employers. The long awaited overhaul of the Holidays Act
28:39
Speaker 2: will be announced today by the Workplace Relations Minister. This woman.
28:42
Speaker 2: Business owners will hopefully have more certainty over their leave
28:46
Speaker 2: requirements of their staff. Leanne Watson is the CEO of
28:49
Speaker 2: Business Canterbury and she's with me now. Good morning, Lynne,
28:53
Speaker 2: good morning. Okay, how long have you been waiting for
28:55
Speaker 2: this legislation to be overhauled?
28:58
Speaker 8: Oh?
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Speaker 6: Look, a very long time, very much looking forward today's
29:02
Speaker 6: announcement and what we hope will replace this long criticized
29:05
Speaker 6: Holidays Act. In fact, in my eight years a CEO
29:08
Speaker 6: of Business Cannibury, I would say no single piece of
29:11
Speaker 6: legislation has caused more frustration, more confusion than the Holidays Act.
29:16
Speaker 6: And there's been you know, significant compliance nightmares, riddled with complexity,
29:21
Speaker 6: manual pay roll fixes and interventions and you know some
29:24
Speaker 6: pretty serious under and overpayment risks involved.
29:28
Speaker 2: It's been really tricky for casual employee. So how are
29:31
Speaker 2: casual employees treated differently to full timers under the current
29:34
Speaker 2: act and what are you hoping to see?
29:37
Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I mean the first thing that we're hoping
29:39
Speaker 6: to see is a regulation that is clearer, fairer, and
29:42
Speaker 6: just more practical for employers to implement and meet their obligations,
29:45
Speaker 6: because that has been the single biggest concern that you know,
29:49
Speaker 6: businesses have just simply almost needed an advanced calculus degree
29:53
Speaker 6: to work out whether or not they are in fact
29:55
Speaker 6: meeting those obligations. And you're quite right when we take
29:58
Speaker 6: into accounts some modern day work day practices. You know,
30:02
Speaker 6: we do have many sectors who employ casual and part
30:05
Speaker 6: time staff, manufacturers, hospitality, retail, and they have been I
30:10
Speaker 6: guess the most impacted by mainly the pro rating of
30:14
Speaker 6: leave based on the hour's work. That's been you know,
30:16
Speaker 6: one of the biggest issues. So that's what we're hoping
30:18
Speaker 6: to see today is just that particular issue. You know,
30:22
Speaker 6: a lot there for employers to work through.
30:25
Speaker 2: What else would you love to hear? The curtain only en.
30:29
Speaker 6: Look, I think just going back to really reducing that
30:31
Speaker 6: compliance burden on businesses and having them, you know, understand
30:35
Speaker 6: how to navigate that legislation that you know that has
30:38
Speaker 6: been the single biggest issue, has caused huge confusion, and
30:42
Speaker 6: not only for you know, small businesses, many of whom
30:44
Speaker 6: of course don't having sort of dedicated HR resources internally,
30:49
Speaker 6: but also you know, we know for some of the
30:50
Speaker 6: bigger businesses impacting, including some of the government departments, they've
30:53
Speaker 6: also you know, been victim of not understanding this and
30:57
Speaker 6: getting it wrong. So I think just you know, go
31:00
Speaker 6: in vector, making it really clear, really fear and really
31:03
Speaker 6: practical for businesses to implement is what we're hoping to
31:05
Speaker 6: see today.
31:05
Speaker 2: Are you confident? I mean, how was the consultation process?
31:09
Speaker 2: Do you feel like your concerns were heard by the minister.
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Speaker 6: We have had some good consultation and in fact, you know,
31:16
Speaker 6: Minister van Walden has been very actively involved in engaging
31:20
Speaker 6: with our members and Canterbury not only on this but
31:23
Speaker 6: also on health and safety reform. So the consultation has
31:27
Speaker 6: been good. I guess the announcement today will determine how
31:31
Speaker 6: much she has listened. This is complex. I suspect it
31:34
Speaker 6: will take quite some time to work through, but you
31:37
Speaker 6: know this has been worked on since twenty eighteen, so
31:42
Speaker 6: there needs to be some urgency to address this to
31:44
Speaker 6: get it right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Watson, thank you so much for your time today.
31:48
Speaker 2: Appreciate that. I wish you the best of LFE for
31:50
Speaker 2: two o'clock. So two o'clock is when we do expect
31:53
Speaker 2: to hear that announcement, and hopefully it will clear up
31:56
Speaker 2: a lot of that confusion and make things easier for
31:58
Speaker 2: employers but also employees. I think half the time that's
32:01
Speaker 2: been the problem as well. We all have different expectations
32:04
Speaker 2: of what we expect and how that holiday pay is
32:07
Speaker 2: going to work and things. So hopefully that can be
32:09
Speaker 2: simplified and make it easier for everybody. Mike Hosking is
32:13
Speaker 2: in the studio. Next it is six to.
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Speaker 1: Six Get Ahead of the Headlines on an early edition
32:20
Speaker 1: with Francesca Rudkin and one roof Love, Where You Live, News.
32:24
Speaker 9: Talks at Me.
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Speaker 2: Coming up at six is the Mike Hosking Breakfast and
32:28
Speaker 2: Mike Hosking joins me. Now, good morning, good morning. Now,
32:32
Speaker 2: I just asked you what was on the Showsdawn. You
32:34
Speaker 2: said a lot of you and I said to you,
32:35
Speaker 2: when you can't ask for much more than that, can you?
32:37
Speaker 7: And you were correct.
32:38
Speaker 16: We will actually talk about coal because the deal has
32:41
Speaker 16: been done and so there's a lot of people seem
32:44
Speaker 16: exercised about the Indonesian part of the equation. So we
32:47
Speaker 16: partially solve that with they call it local coal, which
32:50
Speaker 16: it is local coal, but the company's Australian, of course,
32:52
Speaker 16: not that that seems to matter. But anyway, we're digging
32:54
Speaker 16: it up here. So we are digging it up here,
32:56
Speaker 16: and it seems to be for the foreseeable too. Was
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Speaker 16: a period of time when we were chasing the renewable dream,
33:02
Speaker 16: and I'm assuming we're still doing it. But we're doing
33:04
Speaker 16: a lot of coal at the moment to keep the
33:07
Speaker 16: lights on. And the more AI centers turn up and
33:09
Speaker 16: the data centers turn up, then presumably we're gonna need
33:12
Speaker 16: more and more of this as the as we wait
33:13
Speaker 16: for the windmills. By the way, just let me ask
33:15
Speaker 16: you quickly give me your AMUSEO personally, is you're like Harpafin,
33:19
Speaker 16: Yes I do. Yeah, he's on this morning, and I
33:22
Speaker 16: found him. I've interviewed him several times now and I
33:26
Speaker 16: just find him a miserably interesting, very bright guy performing
33:29
Speaker 16: with Yeah, Yes, Yes, South America then Yeah, And I'd
33:35
Speaker 16: never heard of.
33:36
Speaker 2: Them twenty one pilots. Yes, they're supporting twenty one pilots.
33:39
Speaker 2: But the band is Badaga Bla Bidaga. I'm Blabadaga. Oh
33:43
Speaker 2: look here am I looking at Glenn and you're across that.
33:48
Speaker 5: Looking at Glenn.
33:49
Speaker 2: See, I've got I've got I've actually got something to
33:53
Speaker 2: bring up with you because for years I sat on
33:55
Speaker 2: that breakfast couch and I tried to get you interested
33:57
Speaker 2: in country music and you paid no attention to me.
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Speaker 2: Look at you now, you're like, you're like the poster
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Speaker 2: boy for country music in.
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Speaker 16: New Zealand, to country music and also for Bla Badega
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Speaker 16: South America. Sixty thousand plus people in your stadiums incredibally amazing.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for your time, have a great day.
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