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Brian & Denita Thomas: Support For Democrats Dwindling In The Black Community? · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Fierazzo.
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  Hey friends, thank you so much for tuning in.
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  God bless you.
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  Thanks for sharing the podcast.
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  We've got a very special treat for you.
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  A power couple.
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  We're having Brian and Danita Thomas together now today.
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  We've had Brian on before.
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  I want to give you the websites blessings to Israel.com also on YouTube discerning the times.
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  You can search that discerning the times.
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  They do some really neat podcasts and really neat topics to very important.
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  And also godfirst.org, g-o-d-one-st.org and Brian, I'm sure they're both on Facebook and
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  catch up with them there.
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  If you want Brian and Danita, welcome.
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  Good to see you guys on World View Matters.
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  You know, to be here, thank you for having us.
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  Thank you most.
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  It's great to see you together.
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  We've got Brian on talking, you know, one on one, but it's great to see because you
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  guys do ministry together.
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  And before we get to, you know, just how you guys connected, what you're doing now, and
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  I want to talk about a couple of your YouTube, you know, the podcasts.
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  I want to ask you, because I start off every podcast this week with how can we get more
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  true Bible-believing Christians to vote?
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  And we've got a short amount of time now, unfortunately, but just conservatively, 30 to 35 million
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  Christians do not vote.
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  Now, a lot of us professing Christians, right?
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  So-called Christians and, you know, conservatives, but enough people that would vote one way against
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  the tyranny and against socialism and against all the, you know, trans nonsense, they would
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  vote that way if they did get to the polls.
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  So let's start with you, Danita, since we haven't had you on before, and then we'll get
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  in a little bit of your story.
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  For both of you, I want to hear from both of you on this, because this is just such a huge
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  issue.
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  I don't think Christians realize how close we are to, I don't know, maybe elections not
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  even matter anymore because one party is going to take over everything and it won't matter
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  who votes.
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  We still have that vote in that voice.
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  Go ahead.
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  I think it starts in the church, in the pool pit.
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  I think the church should be got in culture, and the church should be empowering their
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  congregants to go and vote, and it requires informing them of everything that is going
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  on.
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  That's part of discipling them to help them to be able to live for Christ.
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  And so I think as people get more passionate about living for Christ and understanding where
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  we are, understanding what's going on, and what the Bible says about it, I think they'll
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  become more passionate about it, and then also they can take that into their homes, into
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  their communities, sharing with family and not being afraid to share it with family.
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  I think you develop a holy boldness and stand it for Christ.
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  The more you know and understand and can relate it to the times that we live in.
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  Brian, what about you?
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  What do you think?
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  Yeah.
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  Well, one of the things I try to do, David, now is just to stress to people what we see
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  taking place with socialism, Marxism, communism, and we can look through world history and see
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  how that plays out.
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  And I think a lot of people are naive to think, well, oh, no, that can happen here.
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  But if you look back at Brazil, you look at nations like Venezuela, they thought the
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  same thing.
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  And they can tell you today that what is happening in our nation is the same thing that
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  they went through.
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  But it's to try to wake people up, you know, to what is going on.
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  You know, we see this Marxist thing happening now where it's like oppressor versus the
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  oppressed is to pit races against one another, blacks versus white and, you know, take
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  from the rich, give to the poor, take from the whites and give to the blacks.
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  And David, that is not of God.
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  So I try to stress to people.
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  Look at this that communism is atheistic, Karl Marx, who was in atheists, he was a German
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  philosopher.
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  His own father even called him a demon.
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  And he didn't want to work, but he wanted to get things from the rich.
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  And so I try to stress to people listen, this is what's happening and it's leading toward
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  what the Bible says is the system of anti-Christ and it's happening right before our eyes and we
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  need to wake up or else we're going to be in the same position that these other nations
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  have found themselves in.
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  We do.
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  We do need to wake up in Danita to your point.
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  I don't have a lot of faith that the pastors and church leaders who should be truly leading
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  their congregations will get this right.
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  We'll teach the whole council of God anytime soon because we see the numbers.
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  We see the Barna research.
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  I just had him on the show a couple of weeks ago.
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  We see Gallup and Pew and the lack of biblical worldview.
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  And it's in the churches, the lack of biblical worldview.
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  But what you said, that is one very important solution if we could only, if we could only
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  get the pastors to teach and prepare and equip their congregations, didn't I read something
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  about equipping the saints in the Bible?
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  Anyway, yeah, we're really running out of time and we know that and this is not to just
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  be sensational or scare people.
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  It's just to prepare you guys.
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  Our first, our trust in our faith is in God, a sovereign God.
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  He gets it.
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  He's been around since the beginning we have and we're here for a blip on in the timeline
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  of eternity, but we can't take it for granted, especially in such a great country as America
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  and we are, we've got, we still to this point have religious freedoms, even though that's
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  dwindling a little bit.
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  But here we are for such a time as this.
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  So Danita, share a little bit how you and Brian started ministering together, how you
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  guys found out, you know, each other's strengths and, you know, just teamed up so to speak.
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  Go ahead and share part of that story.
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  Well, Brian has shared a little bit about this, but his love for people's souls and he
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  was so passionate about getting information out there on one day, I think it was back
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  in late 2008, early 2009, I mentioned to him about getting on the website, on the internet
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  and having a website and sharing the information that you want to share and his biblical teachings
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  and everything.
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  And since I do a lot of work with administrative things, the best that I can anyway, I was the
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  one I guess you could say behind the scenes, helping to get the website going.
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  And so we kind of balance each other out like that as far as I'm more like the executive
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  director and he does a lot of teaching and everything and I take it and put it together
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  so that people can consume it.
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  And I've always been very supportive of him stepping out into his calling and just trying
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  to see what I can do to help to further the vision that God gives him and just try to
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  stand by him on that.
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  And so I do a lot with the graphic design, video production, post production work.
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  So it tends to work out really well.
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  I think he anoints my gifts and mentions really well with Brian's passion for the work
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  of God.
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  And I'll just add it quickly, David, if I may, that my face and voice is out front.
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  I try to push her out front, you know, because obviously she's the better looking of the
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  two.
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  That's very obvious.
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  You know, I told us like that draws people in, but she likes to be behind you.
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  But she is so great at, you know, like she said, our videos, the design, all of that,
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  you know, I had early on in the ministry without website and I went and did some things
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  on the website.
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  And I thought I did a good job and I showed it to her and she said, whether you might
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  try to take a look at it and I'll be back a couple hours later.
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  And mine looked like a stick figure from a, that a kindergarten would do in comparison.
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  So God has really given her, she, she has a great gift of beautifying things with graphics
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  design.
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  And she's a great teacher as well.
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  I just have to get her more out front.
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  Well, I loved a denita of what you shared.
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  You balance each other out.
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  And I think it, that's a challenge, I think, for marriages sometimes to find the strengths
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  and weaknesses and understand and maybe humble about our own weaknesses and how we need
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  our spouse to balance something out.
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  So kudos to you guys.
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  So let's go over to your discerning the times YouTube channel.
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  I just want you to talk about one of the recent podcasts or shows that you did.
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  This is really interesting.
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  I love the title.
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  You've talked about, you know, Israel a lot and you talk about all kinds of things, AI.
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  And I want to talk about the Greek fraternities and sororities.
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  And you mentioned before we got on the podcast, free masonry, kind of underlying that, share
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  whatever you can about that, just an bullet point that for us.
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  Yeah.
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  So we've been learning the past couple of years ourselves a lot.
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  There's a movement happening right now.
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  A lot of people are announcing, they're announcing their affiliation with Greek fraternities
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  and sororities.
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  So we've never been a part of one.
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  But as we started researching and looking into it, our eyes were open to the idolatry that
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  that these organizations are actually tied to idol gods.
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  One of the ones that really stood out to me was the idol goddess Diana in the Bible in
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  the book of Acts, when the Apostle Paul came and spoke against that, and it is part
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  in a riot.
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  And so as I learned about these things, we began to to share it with people.
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  And one of the things that we've learned is that free masonry is really at the core of
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  these secret organizations.
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  And so we look at Greek fraternities and sororities when you look at free masonry, all of these
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  secret societies, they really at the core, all one in the same pretty much.
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  And so we're just trying to share these things with people to wake them up, to really
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  realize what it is that they're attaching themselves to in these false gods.
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  No, one thing, a lot of the Greek fraternities and sororities within the black community are
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  very, very much tied to the churches.
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  So a lot of these fraternities and sororities are celebrated in their churches.
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  And with the idolatry and the false gods that are tied to these organizations, that becomes
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  very interesting.
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  Don't you have to say if they're tied to some of these, don't you have to put churches
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  in air quotes, then are these true Christian churches or are these just social club churches
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  that, you know, kind of operate under the guise of the typical church 501C3, but they're
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  not upholding the biblical worldview if they're supporting something like that, right?
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  Yeah, absolutely, you know, and I think, David, as time goes on, I think we're realizing
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  that the true church in our nation is a lot smaller than what we had realized maybe
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  say 10 years ago.
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  I really think that remnant is there.
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  The Bible says there's going to be a remnant, but as you said, there are a lot of people
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  today.
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  They're just gathering.
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  It's just a social club, something to act them on the back and make them feel good
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  in their scene and it's not the true church.
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  Okay.
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  One thing, before we take a little brief pause in a few minutes, three minutes, roughly,
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  I wanted to ask you guys, your quick take on the black community, and this is very fascinating
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  campaign cycle, this election cycle that we're seeing.
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  I'm hearing the left scold particularly black men for not supporting Kamala Harris.
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  So you're taking on the black community in general.
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  Are the majority sticking with the left and the Marxists and the Democrat party because
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  we're seeing some come over to the other side for whatever reason, whatever the, whether
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  it's the pro-life issue, whether it's, I don't know, Kamala Harris record, which most
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  people don't know about.
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  So Denita, let's start with you.
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  What is your take on that as far as the black community and their support politically?
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  I think they're still leaning to the left.
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  I do think that there are some that are waking up though.
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  And I think in regards to the men is hitting them in their pockets.
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  The economy is making them wake up because they can't support themselves or their families
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  and things like that.
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  So I think that's a big part of it with the men.
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  I've seen a lot though of the women, the black women that are really with her right now
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  and proclaiming that and some of them that I see, say on social media, they profess
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  to be Christian, but at the same time, they're very adamant about proclaiming that I'm
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  with her and all the, you know, they try to point out things that she's done, but the
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  only thing they can really say is she's a woman and she's black.
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  And to be, you know, is sad to look at it that way, but that's the reality of it.
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  And I think that that's part of the, the worship of skin color, the God of blackness.
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  I think that that's the main thing, but I do think that people are still in the black
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  community leaning more towards the left side, but some are starting to wake up.
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  Oh, God, I hope, I hope I hope and pray Brian, you're taking on that.
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  Yeah, I just want to share some statistics that I looked up on that day real quick.
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  I recently saw in a New York Times poll, it said that 78% of black voters said they planned
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  a vote for Kamala, which is still a lot that's way too many, but it is a sharp decrease
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  from 90% who voted for Biden in 2020, 92% who voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016.
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  Now the gap is even wider as you said among black men, according to the poll, which found
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  just 70% said they would cast their ballots for Harris and 20% planned a vote for Trump.
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  So and that is also 83% of black women survey said they'll support Harris.
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  So it's my understanding that right now, Donald Trump, according to the polls, he's
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  getting the highest support for from blacks for a Republican sense, Richard Nixon more
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  than 50 years ago.
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  So people's eyes are opening, and I think two things that I hear, one is that black men
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  are saying, well, the economy, you know, it's costing three to four times today that by groceries,
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  paid rent, paid mortgage than it was just four or five years ago.
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  The other thing is this ideology of this emasculating of men, you know, telling men they can
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  change themselves into women and all of that ideology, there are a lot of black men that said,
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  we're not cool with that.
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  And we're really tired of that being shoved down our throat.
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  So you see that change in place.
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  Oh, man, there's so much else I would like to talk about, but we just don't have time.
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  I'm thinking, okay, that's the, what about the women?
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  Are they that diehard feminists or are that they're that deluded and irrational?
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  They got to support Kamala Harris no matter what.
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  And these are some of these are Christian women, but we've got to take a brief pause.
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  When we come back with Brian and Danita Thomas, and again,
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  friends, the website blessings to israel.com.
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  Brian shared something about something Barack Obama said to Kamala Harris.
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  And maybe she's losing support of black men.
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  Who knows? I'll let him share about that.
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  But also I got an email from Pastor Paul Blair on General Michael Flynn,
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  predicted what would happen if Kamala Harris does win
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  and the Democrats control the Senate.
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  It's pretty sobering.
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  So Brian and Danita, first of all,
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  General Michael Flynn predicted this if Kamala Harris gets in.
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  Democrats in the Senate will abolish the filibuster
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  and America will grant statehood to DC and Puerto Rico,
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  assuming four more Democrat senators.
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  And then Supreme Court will no longer protect us.
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  They'll pack the courts.
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  They will increase the weaponization of the DOJ, Department of Justice.
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  Social media will be pressured to quote act responsibly
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  and censor Christians and Conservatives.
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  And that'll be controlled by the government,
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  the disinformation governance board.
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  And it goes on.
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  Trans teaching will be mandatory in public schools,
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  along with mixed bathrooms and showers,
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  parents who object will lose their kids.
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  They're already pushing these laws in places like California and others.
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  The open border will become permanent.
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  And public accommodation laws will be pushed to serve the government's interest
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  and doctors who refuse to perform abortions or trans surgeries
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  or hormone replacement will lose their licenses.
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  Also, there will be mandatory vaccines.
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  And the government will institute mandatory buyback of semi-automatic weapons.
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  And the list goes on just hearing these freedom-loving Americans
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  let alone religious freedom supporting Americans.
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  Here's some of this.
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  And this is a short list of what could happen.
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  And I don't think the average person, Brian and Danita,
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  realize what could happen and how close we are.
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  We're not approaching the cliff.
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  We're on the cliff.
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  Brian, let's start with you.
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  Just your thoughts on the direction we could go rather quickly.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  I mentioned Marxism earlier.
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  And this is right out of the playbook, David.
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  If you don't mind, I want to share a quick quote.
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  Yeah, this is one man by the name of Norman Thomas.
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  He was the 1948 Socialist Party candidate for President.
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  And here's what he said, quote,
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  the American people will never knowingly adopt socialism.
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  But under the name liberalism,
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  they will adopt every fragment of the socialist party.
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  Until one day, America will be a socialist nation
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  without even knowing what happened.
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  And David, I mean, that's right in line with what you were just talking about.
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  People don't realize where we are.
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  They're adopting these things.
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  And when you look at our parties,
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  which one is the liberal party?
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  It's very obvious.
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  It's the Democrat party that's pushing these things.
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  When you talk about censorship,
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  we've been dinged on YouTube, David.
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  I know you've had some things.
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  Hello.
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  Yes, it's there, then.
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  You know, so when you're in a time in which you can't even allow people to speak,
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  that is a clear indication of socialism,
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  Marxism, and communism.
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  And like you said, we're right there.
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  I just got a post deleted yesterday on Facebook
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  because it violated their community standards.
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  And it was about free speech and being censored.
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  Anyway, didn't need to, how about you?
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  I just think that is getting to the point where we can't,
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  we're not going to be able to speak freely on religious freedoms.
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  And that's a big deal to me.
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  Yep.
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  I also think that, and this doesn't come up a whole lot,
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  but the school choice thing to us is very important.
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  We homeschool.
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  And I think that they would want to do a way with that as well.
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  And in the schools is where a lot of the indoctrination is taking place.
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  And it's been some subtle things over the years
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  and it's been building up and building up.
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  And so I think that that's something that they will try to manipulate as well
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  as far as how many families are homeschooling.
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  And so that way they can keep their hands on our children.
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  And you already see parents losing a lot of rights in other states.
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  And so I think that is getting to the point where they want to say,
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  these are out, they've actually said, these are our children.
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  But they're not your children.
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  The government is not your, you know, they're not your children.
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  But they want to look at it that way.
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  And that's part of gaining that control.
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  And it just, everything that's happening is really just setting us up
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  for the Antichrist to step on the scene.
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  And so that's another thing why I say church is
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  waking up is so important because they need to teach more about what is happening
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  in the times that we live in.
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  And how it relates to the return of our Lord and Savior
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  who is coming to wrap his church away.
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  And I think that more churches need to focus on that
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  and that will give their congregants a eternal perspective on everything.
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  And so that's something that I think we need to really push.
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  And continue like the paraturches and the ministries
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  that are standing in the gap are very important.
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  And by the way, they're saying the quiet part out loud.
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  Now they're bold.
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  They don't care because they got the cover of the media and the left
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  and all the major institutions behind them.
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  So they can say whatever they want.
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  And that's when we're approaching scary time.
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  We are in scary times.
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  By the way, what you said about school choice,
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  what's happening in the schools?
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  Yes.
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  Friends, please look up the podcast we did recently with Aaron Lee,
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  one of the apparent in Indiana whose daughter was recruited by an LGBTQ club.
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  After school club, art club.
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  And she almost committed suicide and took her, took them a year
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  to try to get their, save their daughter and they did praise God.
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  But now Aaron is an activist for parental rights.
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  That's called on world view matters,
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  demonic agenda against God, children and parental rights.
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  So Brian, you shared something with me your concerns.
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  Something that I didn't remember this,
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  Barack Obama scolded black men for not supporting Kamala Harris.
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  And let's remember what he said be five days away from fundamentally
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  transforming the United States of America.
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  And everyone thought that was such an exaggeration
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  or grandiose statement.
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  No, he did.
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  They did.
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  The left did.
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  His administration did.
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  They, they were not incompetent.
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  They're not stupid.
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  They were demonic,
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  but they absolutely did transform the country in those eight years.
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  And he implemented a lot of awful policies
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  if you're a biblical believer.
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  And if you're Christian, Brian, go ahead and share.
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  Yeah, you're right, David.
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  So yeah, just a few days ago,
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  Barack Obama, he was speaking at a rally,
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  sort of backstage to some volunteers.
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  And he said, well, what he's seeing and hearing
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  is that the enthusiasm and the turnout
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  has not been as high as it was when he was running.
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  And he said, in particularly as pronounced
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  among the brothers, that was a term he used, brothers.
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  And he said, well, you know,
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  the obvious, it should be obvious to you the choice.
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  Someone who grew up like you and he went down all of this stuff.
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  Obviously, Kamala Harris nor Barack Obama grew up
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  like the average black person in America.
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  The whole narrative is a fraud,
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  but they used that because it's all about identity politics.
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  It's all about group.
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  So then he began to sort of scold them really
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  and guilt shame them and say, well,
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  it must be because she's a woman.
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  But here's the thing, David.
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  I say to myself, why can't it be that maybe some black men are saying,
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  well, like I said earlier,
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  prices are high.
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  I'm having a hard time feeding and supporting my family
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  or maybe black men are saying,
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  I don't want to support abortion with taxpayers' money.
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  I don't want to support, you know, dividing Israel.
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  I don't want to support all of this ideology
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  that goes against Christian principles.
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  Yeah.
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  But the problem is that the leftists,
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  when they see someone that is becoming a free thinker,
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  someone that is thinking critically about the issues,
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  the policies that are getting away from things
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  like the personalities and just the rhetoric and narrative,
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  they get frustrated.
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  They get angry.
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  They stood to name calling to shame in you
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  because they realize they are losing control
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  and they want you to be dependent on the government.
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  And I'm just delighted that black men are waking up.
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  And the thing about it, though, David,
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  is it goes against what we see Barack Obama pushing
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  this group think, this identity politics.
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  It goes against what Martin Luther King strived for.
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  He said, a day in which we would be judged
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  by the content of our character,
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  rather than the color of our skin,
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  we are doing the exact opposite in our nation.
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  At least, I should say, the leftists are not going to include
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  myself with them, but the leftists.
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  And so that's what Barack Obama was doing.
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  And again, I just say open borders, socialism,
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  things of that nature, a lot of black men are saying.
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  We're not in favor of that.
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  And that's good.
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  And we've got to wake up friends
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  and we are running out of time.
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  I want to share a quote again.
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  I shared this last week,
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  or it could have been a week ago, two weeks ago.
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  Dale Partridge said in every election,
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  Chris, because some people say,
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  well, I don't like Trump,
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  and I don't like Kamala.
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  You know, I'm not voting.
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  All right, let's talk about policies here.
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  In every election, Christians must choose the lesser of two evils
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  because the world will always choose the greater of two evils.
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  But for a Christian to not vote,
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  is to allow the greater evil to progress
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  without resistance.
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  And that is wrong.
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  So, great quote.
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  And we don't have time.
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  We're cheese a minute and a half already, guys.
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  There were articles that I wanted to get to.
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  We obviously didn't, guys.
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  I knew it would go by fast with both of you.
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  One of them, very interesting article.
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  And you guys know, it's called,
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  don't Detroit my America.
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  Right?
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  You know what happened to do?
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  Oh, there it is.
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  You know what happened to Detroit.
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  And the Democrats have owned Detroit
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  and the state of Michigan for decades.
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  And I don't know, I don't get it.
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  I mean, look at San Francisco.
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  What the left has done to that,
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  formerly nice city.
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  But I don't get how people
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  can't see what's right in front of them.
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  And the results, because elections have consequences.
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  If you can just take 30 seconds
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  and just your final thoughts, final words.
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  I just think people need to educate themselves
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  and be willing to do the work to go in
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  and learn about what is going on.
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  I think a lot of people too are looking at,
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  especially the me and are looking at the open border
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  because the illegal immigrants are coming in
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  and, you know, taking up resident in their cities,
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  taking job, they do take on a lot of the jobs
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  that the black man would take.
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  And I do think they're waking up to a lot of these things.
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  And there's a lot of them are saying,
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  I don't want another California.
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  Kamala, Raya, California.
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  And you see where that is.
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  And so I think a lot of people are just starting
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  to really see what is happening.
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  And they're waking up.
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  And my prayer is that they will continue
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  to seek knowledge and understand.
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  And I know you guys are united on that together,
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  praying and hoping for the best for America
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  under God that he could revive
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  and wake up the church as well.
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  Godfirst.org.
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  G-O-D-1-S-T.org.
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  Brian, Danita, really appreciate you guys.
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  So nice to have both of you on with us this time.
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  God bless. Thanks again for joining us.
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  God bless you. Thank you.
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  Ladies and gentlemen,
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  you're most welcome. God bless you, friends.
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