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14 Biggest Offseason Signings (Part 2) · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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2 singles in it. For the biggest offseason
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signings and their fantasy impacts for this upcoming NHL
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with the remaining of the biggest offseason signings.
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All right, the next trifecta of signings are all by the same
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team. They're all huge and they're all
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unfair to the rest of the league.
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Gosh darn in Florida. Yeah.
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Really exciting maybe? Ever.
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Yeah, they sign Brad Marshawn to a 6 * 5.25 mil contract, which
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is BS to sign a 37 year old player to a six year contract.
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I'm pretty sure there's rules against that in the NHL.
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I know when I'm serious. When the Leafs tried to sign
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Tanev to like a 7-8 year contract when he was like 36,
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the league said no. Because obviously the strategy
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here, if the league did have rules against it, is you signed
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an old guy to a super long contract and then they retire
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halfway through that and you still pay them their money.
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So they're still happy. But they took a lower salary
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cap. So it's a way to kind of rig it.
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I don't know, but the league doesn't mind when it's Florida
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apparently. I'm not salty.
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I'm a little salty, Yeah, it's. I don't think he's actually
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gonna be that relevant for fantasy this year at all.
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He used to be amazing. He was like a fringe first round
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pick. But it doesn't really change
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much for me. The other guys were talking
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about like, I think it'll be a bit interesting.
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But for him, like of these top three signings, I think he's
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probably the biggest fade because Florida is just so good.
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That's good. Yeah, I agree.
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If by chance to Chuck is injured going into the season, which is
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a possibility because. Yeah, really.
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Beaten up in the playoffs, then maybe he could have a bigger
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role, but for now I just think he's gonna be a third line
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player. Good for depth and not much
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going on for fantasy. Yeah, let's just say he's gonna
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be Line 3, Power Play 2 and 37 years old.
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I mean. Let me put it this way, the
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Cliff with Nick Suzuki. Yeah, I'm.
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Not saving Brad Marshan. Wait, definitely butchered that
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quote. So absolutely, I gotta let Josh
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do it. But I have I have a would you
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rather which I'm way better at than making mixes quotes.
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If Nix is Brad Marshall are hanging out on a Cliff, would
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you have a good old time who makes the first move like.
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Sorry, obviously Marshall likes Suzuki.
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Lick Suzuki. Wow.
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OK. My question is, would you rather
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Brad Marshan or Chris Kreider? Crider.
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Good question, I would choose Crider, just think he has a much
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bigger chance to succeed on Anaheim and like Marshall is way
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too buried here. But that that switches to chucks
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out and then he plays with. Bennett I still I still don't
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think that could Chuck being out moves the Marsh on needle
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because Marshall is not the next guideline for power play one.
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He's the 2nd next guy in line for power play 1.
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So The thing is that if Ketchup gets injured for Hagee slash,
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Bennett, whichever one was not already on power play one will
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get the bump. So Marshall still not making it
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unless two people get injured. So to me, I'm not touching him
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with a 10 foot pole. Pretty fair, but he has a better
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515 opportunity, that's the thing.
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I mean, there's also some Miskovich who was randomly good
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last year. True.
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Yeah, but yeah. Alright, Kevin, go for your
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second of three. Brad Marshan or Logan's
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Yankovic? Stankovic, but good question.
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Honestly, I don't think about my team move in over Marshall.
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You know what? You're gonna get more with
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Marshawn. Safer, but it's more fun with
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Stankovic. OK.
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Will Cooley or Brad Marshan? Cooley obviously OK, OK Anna
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bangers league and a non bangers I'm not taking either.
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Taking the pulse on the wheel, Cooley, I feel Cool is gonna
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have more value than you had last year.
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Spoiler that's coming up. Don't worry, I had to throw with
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JQ Bone. Thanks.
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You're right. Let's go.
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To think we all agree that Marshawn's not not very fantasy
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relevant this year. Yeah, next of the three Florida
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Panthers signing, they signed Sam Bennett, Consummate winner
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to an 8 by 8 mil contract. We spoke about this in Part 2 of
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last week's trades episode. This was the one that got away.
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For most of us. It was like the one that we
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would have wanted to see traded to a different team.
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I think he could have been a huge, impactful player anywhere,
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but he's just succeeded so much with them, especially in the
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playoffs this past year. I would not expect Bennett to
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produce anywhere near what he did in these playoffs.
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I think it's literally impossible.
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He also just played better in those playoffs than he's ever
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done in his entire career. But I do think that he could be
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better than he was last year and he's definitely a great pick for
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bangers. Yeah.
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Yeah, I feel like he was, you know, the 2C on this free agency
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market that most teams were chasing after.
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But I mean, why would he sign anywhere else when you know his
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family is there? He just went back-to-back cups.
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He likes the team, he loves the city won the cons might like he
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he just like completely had a resurgence from his career
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moving to Florida and he just went back-to-back cops like he
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was going to do everything in his power to sign there.
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All that at 18 years old, Yeah. Even if you had to take a
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discount. So I mean, I think he's gonna be
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a great player for you know, bangers leagues once again.
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Does he have upside finally cracking that P1?
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I think honestly, it might be on the table this year.
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I feel this is the best chance gonna get because I don't see
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Florida running 2D's on the 1st power play unit and if
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constructs injured, I feel like there's too many open spaces
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there for him to feel that. I can easily see it being like,
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you know, Reinhart Barkov, Seth Jones E or explanation of Seth
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Jones. Yeah, I got.
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Everything if ketchup is out. Yeah, you know, if he's not out
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though, I think Bennett's gonna be power play 1 like you were
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saying. Like I don't think it's gonna be
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4D and I think at least they're gonna try to start them off
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there. Don't know if it's gonna.
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I think it's gonna be over, even though obviously for Hagy has
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the shot. He's like a better.
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Point guard kind of fell out of favor with them though last year
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and they even had the trade him, so I don't know if they're
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gonna. Let the guy there.
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The opportunity again or if they're just gonna, you know,
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try to move on again this year. I just mean, you have to ride
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the hive from what Bennett did this playoffs, which was
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remarkable. So I think they're gonna give
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him that opportunity. It might, but we also didn't
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wanna, you know, overuse him or like, put too much wear and tear
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on the tires and use him for what he does best.
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And it's kind of like that guy. Don't wanna play against kind of
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like that Brad Marshan, but just younger.
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Yeah, The way I see it is, first of all, floor wise, he's going
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to get you 4050 points and he's going to be very good at
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bangers. So in any banger league, you're
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very happy to get him. Obviously the question is where
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you grab him in the draft, but he's always going to be someone
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you're happy to have on your team.
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And then it's like we mentioned with the power play.
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One upside, there's the fact that he's coming off the
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constant with an amazing playoffs.
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There's the fact that Chuck might be injured.
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There's the fact for Hagee is no longer in favor with the team.
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So he this is the best shot he'll ever get a power play one
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if he gets it, obviously that's a huge boost, but even without
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it, he's still very solid guy to have on your team.
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I will say the one potential way of him not getting it even with
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Kuchuk. Well, I guess no.
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OK, if Ketchup's injured, I think Ben, it's 100% on power
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play one. Let's say Chucks healthy, then
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it's going to be Chuck Barkov, Reinhart, Ekblad, slash Jones,
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whatever. We can discuss that after.
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But that fifth spot, like we had mentioned a second ago, Mackie
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Samutsevich might sneak in and take that even if he's not the
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guy. So, and I don't think that's
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crazy. They were doing that towards the
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end of last season over Bennett. Yeah, OK.
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Let me let me give you 1. Would you rather in bangers
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leagues? Would you rather Sam Bennett or
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Dylan Cousins? I'm taking cousins.
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Well, you have to think about it.
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Though that was no, that's a good one.
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These are. Both guys, it's so happy and
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everyone like. Very, very.
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You're not gonna be upset with either one, but I think Cousins
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has a much clearer shot at power play. 1 and.
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Then hits. The hits he was throwing after
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getting traded, we're just unreal.
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She's she's like I, I definitely want him on my team again.
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I'm putting it out there. Having his value go up in the
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middle of the year was, was huge for my fantasy team.
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So I'm sure it's probably going to go way up as well.
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But if I can get him again, I'll be thrilled.
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Yeah, I think we're all in agreement that we would be very
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happy to have him on our team. So we'll see which one of us
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ends up with him. I do think though that I mean,
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if to Chuck's healthy coming into this year, Bennett is
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playing with the Chuck, whereas Cousins is not playing with
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anyone of that caliber, which is something to keep in mind.
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But nevertheless, like, yeah, I'm with you.
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It's Cousins, but it's probably closer for me than it is for
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you. Cousins might literally end up
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also playing with Chuck. Hilarious.
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That's true. Actually, that's true.
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Yeah, I'm. I'm picking cousins.
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That's a good one, Kevin, though.
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Let's see about going. To Yeah, next Florida signing.
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All right, final Florida signing for this episode is this is
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actually the biggest discount I think they got.
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Florida Panthers signed Aaron Ekblad to an 8 * 6.1 mil
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contract. This guy passed up.
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He was. He could have gotten like 910
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mil. On open.
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Market and he passed up on that just to stay in the place he
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loves. Can't can't fault him for that.
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But like, that's crazy. It's also where he was drafted,
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so I don't know. He's finally he was.
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He was drafted there when they weren't great, and now he's
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finally like reaping the reaping the rewards.
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Of. Graduation.
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I get it from his point of view, it's just nuts like how great
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the organization is doing that someone's willing to take A4 mil
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discount to stay on the team. Really the fact that they won
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the Cup again and had the opportunity to go back-to-back
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to back is a big reason why some of these guys are taking like
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steep discounts. I mean, we are, we don't have to
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mention like the no tax state or whatever because like, you know,
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they've always been no tax state.
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So I don't know how that's always, you know, coming to play
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before, but now that they're winning, it obviously adds to
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it. I, I don't, I don't know much I
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don't like, I don't think there's much to say for fantasy.
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I feel like if he keeps like P1, if he keeps that P1, it's it's
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great, right? But we saw last year he was
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mobbed off multiple times. So I just don't know if it's
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going to stick. If he starts P1 I think he'll be
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like a top 20 defenseman, but we just don't see that that that
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defenseman on the power play be like the most fantasy relevant
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to be honest. I mean, we all know he's got a
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one big competition on that team and that's you Visible Anskis,
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so. I was going to say Jeff Petry.
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Humans. No, obviously it's a it's a quad
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versus Jones for that powerfully one quarterback.
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And I'm kind of nervous about taking either of them because I
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don't wanna be stuck holding the one that doesn't have the power
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play 1. I don't know.
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I personally don't think like I know Jones has been decent for
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back cats, but like I don't really want either of them if
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they're not the power play one guy.
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I don't know how you guys feel. I think if it's me going into
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fantasy drafts next year, I'm going to be looking at getting
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Seth Jones at value because I think he's going to be drafted
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after ironic blood. And I think Jones has already
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better category coverage, which sets the foundation and he has
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the upside of getting the P1 spot.
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So I think you get Jones out of more fair price.
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He always has the, you know, the potential of getting that spot
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throughout the year, even if it doesn't start with it.
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And that's the kind of player that I'd rather have on my team.
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I don't want to pay over air neck blood.
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If you don't get the people one, he's way more useless.
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He doesn't have the category coverage.
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I'm going Jones for sure over at Glad.
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I don't believe that Ekblad's necessarily their first choice
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for a power play one guy. Two years ago, Montour was their
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power play one guy on Florida over Ekblad, and it's just
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because he left that Ekblad had the opportunity.
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I think what happened with him truly is that they picked him
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first overall that year and they've been married to the idea
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of having him succeed. And in real life, he's obviously
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been very impactful, but I think it's a total fade for fantasy.
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Maybe I'm too low on him and that's why I'm kind of more pro
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Jones, but I think that as soon as they have another guy who can
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succeed and also, you know, Barkoff, such a good defensive
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forward, they could just put 5 forwards on that first power
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play and I wouldn't be surprised.
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Nevertheless, I think Jones is a decent guy, especially if people
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are going to undervalue him because of this Ekblad contract.
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Yeah. I mean personally I think I'm
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avoiding both of them but but I think everything I said makes a
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lot of sense. Yep.
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Alright, let's move on to the next siding, which I think is
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very interesting. This is a big one.
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Toronto Maple Leaf signed Matthew Nice to a 6 * 7.75 mil
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contract. I think this is steel.
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Yeah, I I agree steel, especially after losing Marner
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and I feel like I feel like nice has leverage at that point
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because, you know, they're they're not resigning one of
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their best wingers knives kind of take up the mantle.
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Like he could obviously ask for more money, I think, but he does
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a good thing. He takes a reasonable discount
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and I think it's going to be great for fantasy next year.
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I'm really curious to see where his ADP falls.
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So high like so like early I think.
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You think it's gonna be really high?
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High as in like early in the draft?
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I think so because. Early in the draft.
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I could see him. You have to wear white.
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Johnston got drafted last. That's exactly what I was
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thinking in our draft, why Johnson got drafted fifth round
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and I could see a nice doing that.
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And that was like around her tour ahead of ADP.
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Yeah, first of all, there's a ton of Leafs fans, so that skews
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it a lot, right? Same as with the Habs players,
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like their ADP is always a bit higher than it should be, but
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also like the hype of Marner leaving him, signing this
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contract, how unreal his playoffs and end of season were,
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especially in Bangers league. He's gonna get to pick super
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early and honestly, I think it's gonna be worth it.
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I think in Bangers League specifically, he's going to be
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worth what his cause is going to be because we don't really see
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many walking double double s. And I feel like Noises just like
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slowly fell into that situation where he's one of the only like
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elite guys that's getting you know, over two hits, over 2
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shots a game. He's going to be Matthews's main
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guy right now. So that's a good spot to be.
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I feel like he's set up for success.
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He has a contract now. They're committed to him.
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I think he's going to be a beast.
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Yeah, I agree very high on him. Yeah, I definitely like it too.
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I think I'd probably avoid if people are super high on him.
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I don't know if I would pick him where Johnson was picked last
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year. I mean, double, double is
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massive. Everybody's happy with that.
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Of course. I just, there's a certain aspect
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of how a player is gonna change his habits if he needs to become
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the skilled guy. Now, you're never really gonna
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be a double double with 80 points.
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Like that's extremely rare. It's really only Brady to Chuck
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who does that type of stuff. So if he keeps up the physical
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play, I'd expect his offence to regress a little bit.
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But if he, maybe he'll adopt more into a skill position.
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But I think there's gonna be somewhat of a tradeoff.
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I have no good would you rather for you?
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Yeah, few knives next season or Andres Technika V.
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Nice. Nice, easy.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm never taking off again.
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OK, I have one more. I have one too.
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I have one I. Smoke it.
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Matthew Nyes or Marty Natures. Nice.
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Oh, there we go. I split the difference.
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Just see, this is where I'm like, OK, I'm convinced that
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nature can get 80 points no problem, and I think now is
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gonna get like 60. Nicely get more than 60 points.
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I think I think the difference is gonna be smarter than you
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think. I think nature gets more points
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but the back cats more than makes up for it in nicest favor.
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I think nature gets like 90 plus I think Nice can get like 70 to
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80 and he'll the shots will probably be similar.
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But you know, Nice gets over two shot, O2 hits more a game.
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Yeah. Nice or Slomkowski?
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That's a good one. Yeah, myself.
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Let's go. I.
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Think I think I have to take knives.
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I would take Slough. My heart says Slaugh, but my
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mind says Nah is. I also want to take Slaugh.
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I feel like Slap could be the same as Nice this year, but I
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just feel like I saw it from Nice throughout the whole season
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last year. So he's safer.
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The slave have a higher ceiling. A slave could get like 5 blocks
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a game. OK let's not.
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That's true. Yeah, he does randomly block a
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lot. Yeah, what about Nice or
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Holloway? I think OHS super, which
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Holloway are we getting? Are we getting Holloway from
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like last 30 games of the season last year?
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Are we getting Holloway that like is?
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Normal. It's the same thing with nice
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right? He only really popped off last
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like 30 games. Yeah, I think, I think I have to
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take the shot on Matthew Nyes, who's playing with with.
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With. Awesome Matthews and knowing
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that that's one of the best players in the league and he's
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attached to him. Well, that's a good one though.
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All the way Holloway, his centre is now push shooter and I'm not
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sure if he's going to be set up the same way.
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That's a great one though because you know Holloway was a
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banger league stud last year. Like you won leagues?
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Yeah. I'm really nice playing with
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Matthews, but really, really quick on that.
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Like Holloway to me is gonna probably go two or three rounds
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later ADP. So I'd rather, I think
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personally. So I'd rather take Holloway
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there than where he's gonna go. But one for one who I'd actually
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rather. Yeah, nice.
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Definitely go with that. OK, next we've got Vancouver
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Canucks sign Brock Besser to 7 * 7.25 mil contract.
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I think he has the best flow in the league.
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He's. Overpaid.
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It's it's yeah, but have you seen his hair?
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Fair. That was an extra bill right
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there for the. Hair.
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Exactly. Building on a change, we're also
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paying. You've had their cage.
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Yeah, honestly, I'm kind of avoiding the Canucks in general
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this year. I think they're gonna suck
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better. I think is a bit overhyped,
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especially like if Peterson's gonna keep being bad then Peters
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gonna. Suffer, I don't know not.
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That type on. Him I just feel like, you know,
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this Vancouver team is like going to be one of the five
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worst teams in the league, but also we're discounting them so
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hard that they may end up being values.
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Like like don't forget Elias Pettersson was like a second
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round pick last year and mostly agues and now he just fell off
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the face of the earth. Like that doesn't just happen
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overnight. I mean, Besser was arguably one
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of the biggest fantasy busts last season as well to go along
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with Elias Patterson. So they definitely don't have
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good juju going into this year. But does that mean that they
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fall so far whether they end up being a value, like if they just
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bounce back to what they were doing like 2 years ago, when
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they're going to be a value no matter where they're drafted.
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So definitely keeping an eye on on them, especially, you know,
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because they have great deployment.
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Like better is gonna be a guy that's line 1P1 playing with the
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best players on his team. So if he goes late, like he's
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going to be a value. It's just depends where he ends
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up falling. Yeah, I mean of those two that
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you mentioned, like in that vein, I love targeting guys who
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just had a terrible season and like going for the late value.
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I'm more interested in person for that than Besser though,
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because better already even when he was like solid like he's not
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like that interesting in bangers leagues.
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You know, he's pretty one-dimensional.
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Peterson at least would like get some like good shots, power play
20:00
points like face off wins from a dual eligible.
20:03
So that's the one I'm more looking for the bounce back from
20:05
Canucks. But in general, the team sucks
20:06
and I'm not that enthused. Brock Besser or Jonathan
20:09
Marshall so. That's a great one.
20:14
I'm going to pick Besser. The reason I'm going to pick
20:18
Besser is because, you know, honestly, as I hear you guys
20:22
talk about this, I'm super low on the Canucks too.
20:24
I think we all are, and understandably so.
20:26
Nevertheless, I also think that you're gonna be able to get them
20:31
at quite the discount, especially Peterson.
20:33
Like he could be an amazing. Target if Yeah.
20:36
Like around 6:00. I feel like you'll go and I'm
20:38
going around four or five. I feel that's where he's gonna
20:40
fall. Yeah, I mean, it's league
20:43
subjective anyways, but if it's five round 5th or later, like
20:46
this can be an elite player that can get you 100 points, he's
20:49
done it. And then if he succeeds, Besser
20:51
succeeds. So it could be one of those
20:53
things that I think the Vancouver guy in your league is
20:55
gonna draft him higher than they should.
20:56
But this is my long winded way of saying I would rather Besser,
21:00
especially because I think that his ceiling is higher than
21:03
Marsha ASOS. OK.
21:05
One more, I'll go with the besser as well.
21:07
Actually like Marceau's back, that's a lot better, but better
21:10
is a clear line. One power play, one March.
21:12
So could get bumped off those with how Nashville has more
21:15
people that are kind of relevant.
21:18
Lost 1 Brock Besser or J Peterka.
21:22
Peterka Ohm. Maybe because. 12P2.
21:27
Yeah, you know what? I have just so much more hype on
21:30
Utah, but Besser spot is so much safer than Peterka's.
21:34
Like in terms of deployment. I don't know.
21:36
What do you think, Jake? Jonathan.
21:38
Jonathan Butterfly. Not Jonathan to be going.
21:43
Brock Besser, I think I just like the deployment.
21:47
I feel like he's gonna get more minutes and he he's known to be
21:51
a shooter, like he could hover around three shots a game, but
21:54
they're a has done that before. But he was also playing better
21:56
minutes. So I, I just don't know what to
21:58
expect, but I feel like feel like for where you're going to
22:00
draft something better will be a value.
22:02
Yeah, I'll give you better. I just feel like the deployment
22:04
is more secured there. Utah has so many good players
22:07
that can be on power play, one that Patricia could get bumped
22:09
off. I'm gonna go besser too.
22:11
It's a good. It's a good one, though, Kevin.
22:13
Let's move on to the next. Alright, this is my favorite
22:17
one. Gonna get your piggy banks out?
22:21
We have to start. That this year go.
22:23
For it. You gonna do that?
22:24
By the way, this has been established.
22:26
We're going to be putting $0.05 into the jar every time we say
22:30
his name. Same.
22:32
On that note, Winnipeg Jets sign Gabe the Babe.
22:38
Hilarity to a six point 7.5 mil contract.
22:42
It is officially a Velardi party.
22:44
Drinks are on him, he can afford it.
22:46
This is hype. Yeah, yeah, it's it.
22:49
Is it worth taking you up on that game?
22:51
So how high are you drafting him this year, Josh?
22:54
Oh my. God, he has a contract to back
22:56
up his performing. High.
22:58
I always say this and I've been saying it for years.
23:00
All of the money, you know. And.
23:07
I, I love this this this acquisition, honestly.
23:11
I mean, it's signing. It's really, really good.
23:14
He's gonna play a huge role on this team that's super top heavy
23:20
and he's just gonna return, I think on your draft this year.
23:24
I don't know if he's gonna fall. I mean, some people may just
23:27
forget about him. Clearly not us or our listeners,
23:29
because he's all we ever talk about are the Wags have a have
23:34
some trouble with it. And especially when I wake up at
23:37
night saying Velardi. OK, anyways.
23:39
But yeah, realistically, I expect him to have a very, very
23:44
good season. And I think that this was it's
23:48
big. That's big money.
23:49
So I think that I think they're gonna be happy with him and
23:52
we're gonna be happy owning him and fantasy.
23:54
Alright, now it's my turn. I just feel.
23:58
Like. Would you rather have to set it
24:03
up first? I just believe it is one of
24:06
those guys that has like no category coverage, but we'll get
24:09
you points or zeros. So you gotta be, you gotta know
24:11
you're getting yourself into. But obviously like he's taking a
24:14
step up in recent years, like he's a young guy, like he's
24:16
coming into his own. But would you rather draft him
24:18
over Alexis Lafreniere? Yeah, I'm taking polarity over
24:22
laugh. There you go, I the difference
24:24
once again I. I just want to finally draft
24:29
laugh when he's gonna be good. Like I just wanna see it happen.
24:33
I like and look laugh not to references starts in the queue,
24:40
but he was supposed to be elite. He was clearly not, and I think
24:44
that laughs does now have that high ceiling without critter
24:46
there. Nevertheless, I obviously he's a
24:50
safer bet. But you're right though, his
24:52
back hats is what's kind of like off putting above already,
24:54
especially in a category bangers league.
24:56
That's why I would choose left, but it's.
24:58
Close. I'm actually surprised you went.
25:00
Actually, I'm not surprised because it is Vilardi, but.
25:03
Do. You pick Evan my main reasoning
25:05
reasoning for not going laugh because I am very high on him,
25:08
but it's just I don't think his power play one spot is secure if
25:12
we look at their. Top Who's taking that spot?
25:15
OK, let me let me tell you, yeah.
25:17
And he just got paid. Let me let me tell you just.
25:20
Taking the money? Drop it.
25:21
Yeah, it's gonna be right now. Right now, Laugh is gonna have
25:25
to work hard to bump one of these guys off.
25:26
You've got Miller, Panarin, Fox, I think we all agree.
25:29
Are the three locks, right? Like none of them are getting
25:32
bumped off. And then that leaves Trocheck
25:35
and Sabotage out, in my opinion. Have a step up on Laugh right
25:37
now. It's not agree with that.
25:40
It's not like I think laugh gets it, you know, but Velardi, we
25:44
know for a fact he's line on power play one.
25:46
There's no doubt Laugh obviously has the bigger upside because of
25:49
his back cats. But even with power play 1, I
25:51
think Hillary gets more points than laugh.
25:53
I don't know what you guys think.
25:54
I think the big difference is the back cats and and that's why
25:58
where laugh has the higher upside.
25:59
If you're certain he gets power play 1.
26:01
Bullard is more of a safe bet in that's in the.
26:03
Points I can get behind that I could get like I.
26:05
Think you're right mind. I see laugh as like 85% of
26:09
Matthew is. But Nice has the guaranteed spot
26:13
and he's playing with like Matthews, like shotgun.
26:16
Not that that. Is in the same convo of like
26:19
this next generation of like power forwards, like he doesn't
26:22
hit as much as the other guys, but like I I see him like in my
26:25
head, I see him as like, you know, Matthew, I Slavkov ski
26:28
like I I I see him in the same kind of like realm as those
26:31
guys. And fully agree skillwise.
26:33
They they, they paid him. He's a spot opened up.
26:38
He's going to take it, I think. And if he keeps it, I feel like
26:41
the ceiling is really high on this Rangers roster.
26:44
Yeah, I agree with the ceiling. I agree with the back hats.
26:46
I still think Hillary gets more points even if Laugh has power,
26:49
play one. But if Laugh has power play one,
26:51
he'll be a better all around player.
26:53
But that's a big if to me. Whereas with Velardi I have no
26:55
doubts. Yeah, that's why.
26:58
If none of us draft already, then how are we gonna mention
27:01
him every episode? True, true.
27:05
That's where. That's where the money lies.
27:07
Alright, let's go to the next one.
27:10
All right, this one's for you, Jakey.
27:12
The New York Rangers sign will cool.
27:15
How's that sound? Level of.
27:20
This was the best pickup of the year that I totally thought
27:23
about doing myself right from the get go.
27:25
Yeah, definitely wasn't suggested by Kevin on our first
27:27
morning session. Immediately sniped.
27:31
By sniped you mean I laid it on a platter and ended up making?
27:34
The move? What about Coolie?
27:38
Even the guy on the Utah? No, there's another one with
27:41
interesting spelling. Yeah, yeah, they signed into,
27:45
they signed him at 2 * 3.9 mil just.
27:47
To finish, that's a great deal for them, for guys to be playing
27:50
on their top six. Yeah, I feel like last year we
27:53
saw glimpses of what he could do offensively.
27:55
Like we just kept saying like he can't keep this up and he
27:58
didn't. Keep getting away with it.
28:01
It we had a beer bet about it. It was close though, actually.
28:04
So maybe he has some more offensive capabilities than we
28:07
think. But I think, you know, you're
28:09
drafting this guy in your in your bangers leagues because
28:11
he'll get you like .5 points per game, but he'll get you like
28:14
five hits a game, which is just nuts.
28:17
Yeah, and I think that the points can regress positively a
28:20
little bit. You know, .5 is OK, not as floor
28:23
as floor is. It's probably between like .4 to
28:26
.75 and if you're getting .75 points.
28:29
That's a lot. Like, yeah, he's not getting
28:31
point. 75. I think he don't think you get.
28:33
65. Points playing with Mike Miller,
28:38
Don't think that's possible if he is that guy.
28:40
With a 0 power play exposure it's really hard to get that
28:42
many points. But he had a 0 power play
28:44
exposure last year and he ended up like just under 0.65 like
28:48
that. That was our that was our cutoff
28:50
for the bed and he ended up at like .61.
28:52
But he wasn't playing second line minutes either.
28:54
So I feel like now he gets second line minutes and he's
28:58
more of a name on this roster than just like, you know, fourth
29:01
round, fourth line father, whatever that ends up doing well
29:04
in certain weeks. So I actually think his ceiling
29:07
is probably like .65 like over. Yeah, I would be shocked and
29:12
like she'd really return on value for what he's getting
29:14
drafted, but I feel like realistically it's over between
29:19
.5 and .6. Yeah, I mean, regardless,
29:21
someone who puts up the hits he does and can also contribute
29:24
points every second game is someone that you're very happy
29:27
to round out your roster with. And he's going to fall like
29:29
people don't really think about him like.
29:31
This I don't. Know unlike us.
29:34
You know, he'll go with those big banger guys, go like
29:37
goodness, Sherwood, like he'll be in that kind of range.
29:40
But I would rather pick him just because like he's playing with.
29:44
You pick him over. Players probably.
29:47
I just think I mean it depends what I need like I.
29:49
Understand why. Sherwood, I have never seen like
29:53
a guy who, first of all, that's gonna regress like, that's going
29:57
down. Second of all, I've never seen
29:58
the guy who had the most hits one year be the guy who has the
30:01
most hits the next year. Like, that doesn't really
30:03
happen. So I think that Sherwood's gonna
30:06
still be an elite hitter. No reason to think he won't be.
30:09
But coolly also has the points upside that Trust doesn't have.
30:13
So that's why I would just certainly rather him if I need
30:15
the hit specifically. Yeah, sure.
30:16
Was it safer that But if I'm going to go for a more
30:18
well-rounded player, I'm happy picking Cooley.
30:20
And yeah, this is one of the reasons, if you're starting to
30:22
listen to the our episodes this early on, like, these are the
30:26
type of guys I really don't think many people are gonna be
30:28
thinking about going into the draft.
30:29
And you could pick him in what, like the 14th round, coolly 16th
30:34
round, and that would be amazing.
30:36
Yeah, I mean, but if you ask me like would I draft?
30:39
Would I draft him, you know, for his hits or laying around?
30:42
I'm I would be like, I sure would, you know?
30:45
I knew it. I was like, what's going on?
30:48
Right now I saw I saw Josh's face and I knew what he was.
30:50
About to say I. Knew something was coming.
30:53
He was cooking. So confused.
30:56
I was like, are you OK? And then you then you delivered.
30:59
It was wonderful. All right?
31:01
Yeah. So cool.
31:02
Cool. Cool, anymore to stay on Cooley?
31:06
No, I'm good. I'm I'm hype on him.
31:08
But yeah, let's move on to our last one.
31:11
This one I think could either be nothing or it can be very sick
31:17
in terms of. Financing or something?
31:20
So Philadelphia Flyers signed cameo work to 5 * 5.15 mil
31:25
contract. And I think this is super
31:27
interesting because if you look at what he did last past year,
31:31
he was like scratched for like half the season and then
31:34
Tortorella gets fired and he gets signed to a five times 5.
31:37
This is that's an interesting, interesting sign.
31:40
You know, it was clearly he had issues with Tortorella and now
31:43
that he's gone, does this mean he can potentially get power
31:45
play one? It's gonna be between him and
31:47
Drysdale, I think. I don't know.
31:49
Follow the money, you know. They do like Sanheim on their
31:52
power plays as well for some reason, which I don't know why,
31:55
but I feel like you're has, you know, when he was coming up, we
31:58
all thought he was like the next P1 quarterback for this team.
32:02
Drysdale obviously wasn't in the cards when that was a
32:05
conversation. So now I feel like Drizzle is
32:07
going to be the guy. But yeah, this is neat.
32:09
Cause 5 mil for a guy that has done nothing in the league,
32:11
honestly, is is a lot of money. So they're basically committing
32:14
their future to this, to this kid.
32:16
And he's gonna be given an opportunity, I'm sure.
32:18
And like, you know, when it was Tortorello, the coach, I would
32:22
not have touched it. But now I'm definitely
32:23
intrigued. Like would you draft Cam York or
32:25
John Klingberg? Berg To me, this is one of
32:29
those, like you, this is an IRL contract because he's a young
32:34
guy and he's probably like a very good defenseman.
32:36
That just doesn't translate to fantasy.
32:38
Drysdale's gonna have the number one chance, and if he fails then
32:42
I think they're probably gonna default to to Sanheim over York.
32:47
I mean last year, last year Drysdale, Sanheim, Emil Andre
32:52
and Igor Samiullah all got shots at Power play 1.
32:55
I don't disrespect Kamulah like that.
32:58
I'm just saying so like, how much of that is actual based on
33:02
York's ability and how much of that is based on Tortorella's
33:04
hatred of him, you know? Yeah, this gives like for
33:08
different reasons, but like, Matthias Samuelson vibes, you
33:12
know what I mean? It's just like, wait, why did he
33:14
get so much money? And then it's just OK, fine,
33:18
he's helpful to have in in real life, I guess, but it's still
33:23
not much. Like, yeah, Samuelsson 7 years,
33:27
30,000,004.285. This is even more, you know what
33:30
I mean? By now with the cap going up,
33:31
it's similar vibes. I just think it's like a good
33:33
IRL contract for them to have this.
33:35
Not going to translate for fantasy.
33:36
You don't see them getting. Everyone, no, I don't see him
33:40
getting power play one off the bat, but between now and the
33:43
start of the season, anything can happen obviously.
33:44
So we'll definitely monitor the situation, but I feel like one
33:47
of those guys that maybe, you know, develops value over the
33:50
course of the season and become somebody that you can put into
33:53
your lineups. But I I probably not drafting
33:55
him like even in my 22 round draft.
33:58
Yeah, I think this is a good it's a good watch list unless
34:01
you start looking at the preseason lines and see they're
34:03
playing in power play one in practice and stuff like that, in
34:05
which case I definitely would draft him if he was power play
34:07
1. I think for you guys, I think
34:10
it's gonna be Drysdale to start the season.
34:13
I don't know if you guys agree with that, but that's what
34:15
that's my opinion on that power play.
34:16
But I think just the contract stood out to me.
34:18
That's why I thought it was worth mentioning.
34:20
Just it felt he literally got scratched for half of last
34:23
season. So to for him to get signed a 5
34:25
by 5 out of nowhere, it made me think oh maybe they actually are
34:28
invested in this kid and they see him as part of their future.
34:31
Obviously sometimes defensemen are just good at defence, which
34:34
isn't the best fantasy, but I think it's just something to
34:37
keep an eye on. That's the problem with these
34:39
contracts with defenseman. It's like, OK, what does this
34:41
mean, especially when they're young and you don't know much
34:44
yet. And also, for what it's worth,
34:48
not sold on Drysdale by any means, but he was picked one
34:51
pick behind Sanderson in the 2020 draft and obviously he's
34:55
not returned value like. Yeah, but York was picked really
34:59
treated for Cofield in 2019. OK.
35:03
Yeah. I just mean, like he was
35:06
supposed to be like the second elite defenseman on draft, and
35:09
clearly it's just not happening right now.
35:11
But I do think they're going to at least give him the
35:13
opportunity. The Flyers are a fun team.
35:15
They're a really good team to have fantasy assets on this
35:19
year, I think as a lot of them are gonna be undervalued.
35:21
But York is probably the third defenseman I'm picking from
35:24
here. OK, maybe Sealer with the pigs
35:28
and symbol look as Kevin likes him and worked out last time he
35:31
recommended Cooley. Have you heard it here first?
35:34
Everybody pick up. Igors and Mullah first round.
35:37
Face Yeah, yeah, we'll see, though I think it's more of an
35:40
IRL thing. Long story short.
35:41
Yeah. All right.
35:44
So I think that that wraps up our signings.
35:46
Obviously it's still early in the offseason or mid in the off
35:49
season because the more stuff can happen.
35:52
It has been a mid offseason, yeah.
35:55
But yeah, more stuff could happen, but I'd expect it to be
35:58
quiet until closer to to the season.
36:01
But whenever anything happens, you know who's gonna be there?
36:05
These guys. You're right, these guys are
36:10
gonna be there. For what?
36:15
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