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Ep45 Goodbye PAC12, The ACC (For Now!), The Meh NFC & AFC Westses and Orgy Boats. · Sports Allegedly

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  Oh, you realize we're recording and coming to you live from an old woman's
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  house on a hill where Kenny had to change his shirt three times because he's
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  becoming a big boy. And I almost died during the week, and well
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  the other two we're just they just did what they did. Welcome everybody,
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  Thank you for joining us for this episode of sports allegedly on the what is
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  this for? January fourth, the fourth day of August in a sweltering oh
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  Homa and Friday twenty twenty three, the year of our Lord. Yeah,
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  but it wasn't as hot today as sweltering as it was. Yet yesterday was
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  horrible, well of the day before that was even were they Wednesday? And
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  well, well Wednesday was one hundred and five meeting. You're all just here.
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  Let's get to sports. We're from Oklobe. We are all all just
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  all right. Anyway, thanks for joining us for this episode. We're gonna
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  do a quick rundown today. We're gonna talk about um mediocracy. We're gonna
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  talk about the ACC We're gonna have our thoughts about that and predictions. We're
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  also going to talk about the West in the NFL. We're gonna talk about
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  AFC West, the NFC West. We're talking about each team, their schedule,
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  give our predictions for that, and then we'll have some odds and incident.
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  But hey, you know what, let's let's get with it. Let's
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  start get to the main thing. Start with the granddaddy of them all,
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  the pat twelve, the conference of non champions. They it's been all week.
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  They were good, they weren't so good. Oh they're back. Oh
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  shit, it's bad. Oh they're in a secret meeting at all nine of
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  them are gonna get together. No, oh wait. We were supposed to
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  have a nice TV deal done for them, a grand rights. Nothing,
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  their click clickoff comes in with this Apple TV. Hey, you might get
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  a little bit less money, but we could get more based on subscribership.
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  I never saw the money, did any money the money, The money was
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  bad, but no one saw it. They didn't say so. Obviously at
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  breaking news today they said that with the incentives of them adding subscribers, they
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  could possibly get to Big twelve money. Correct, But we never we as
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  the public, never got to see that. Now unless I've missed it,
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  but I assumed that that's gonna come out. I said that the CW deal
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  was was just under I don't think we ever saw numbers on that well,
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  but no, well they always that they said that it was just under the
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  Big twelve deal. Yeah, that well that was relatively close. That was
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  CW and streaming together. That was going to be uh close to the Big
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  twelve money. Um. But obviously you know as well as I do.
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  I mean, we have a Prime right now, has a Thursday night game.
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  It started last year. I had to think and remind myself to watch
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  that game because I don't have I don't have Prime on all the time,
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  you know, unless I go to watch a movie. I'm you do,
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  but I just I'm a modern Yes, yes, this one here, but
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  yet you're the most modern. You're the most modern, I allegedly, but
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  anyway, so, but most people, and I still think that the audience
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  that the NFL caters do is a male above forty, um. And now
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  they'd like to cater to everybody obviously mid thirties to forty. I'm just saying
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  above. I mean they'll take I mean, but I think that that's what
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  they're they're trying to cater to, which those people still have TV, especially
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  getting the fifties and sixties or they're still on some sort of cable since the
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  satellite system. So, uh, you're you do? Yeah? And I
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  think I think that you're what's the word I'm looking for your you're out now.
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  When you're out there, you're being seen. It's your mojo. Now,
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  it's just those teams that are in the PAC twelve, if they're gonna
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  be on Apple, they just don't have the relevant I guess the relevant scene
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  that other teams have that are I mean, you're I'm flipping games. Nobody
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  wants to watch I'm flipping games. I remember they always had the late game.
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  That was the one thing. That's fine, that was the one thing
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  that they had. But there's alwaill l. But there's still other networks that
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  have those. So when we were watching the mid no when we were watching
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  a primetime ABC, NBC, CBS night game and halftime, it's nine o'clock
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  or eight forty five, we're flipping to watch the start of a PAC twelve
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  team on ESPN two or Fox Sports or something like that. Now we're not
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  going, you know, we're not going to hop onto the that. Yeah.
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  And I might sound like an old man here because I'm sure some i'd
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  streaming you can flip easier, but I know it's not easy just to flip
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  on my streaming network from cable. There's a it's a process and its people
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  have to realize that. So the football is dead on the West. But
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  but it takes time to do that. So then it's just easier for me
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  to flip to CBS Sports and watch a Mountain West team late at night because
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  it's football while I'm waiting to get half time over with, and the game's
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  from gonna be just as good as the back twelve streaming out. The streaming
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  hasn't got it down yet. I mean, the cable is just ten times
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  easier. I would agree with that, but that's what having bars, that's
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  what you don't have streaming services and bars, well that's another thing. Exactly.
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  You're you're a lot of people your biggest bars sports bars and yeah yeah,
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  which we notice restaurant. We notice that last year where everyone's like,
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  hey, it's Thursday night, can keep out the game on and everyone's on
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  their phone trying to get it and stream it to the everyone's turn on the
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  WiFi trying to stream it on there. It's like, that's fucking lame.
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  I mean, I want to set at home and watch Prime with my wife.
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  But but I think that's the opinions of one personast Sorry, you guys
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  love it, but I think that that is there. I think there's just
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  it's not that flexibility to make sure. So when you got a recall on
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  your on your remote, yeah you can. You can recall from one channel
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  to the other on cable or you have to switch from streaming, but that's
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  a cable. Yeah. Well also, I mean honestly streaming that day,
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  it is very annoying switching with with having a podcast, You guys should definitely
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  invest in. Just get the Sunday ticket, have like forces, I'm not
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  paying y'all that much money. Is it that much YouTube? YouTube? Now?
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  Yeah, it's not as much as you would think it is. Yeah,
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  it's like one hundred dollars or one hundred it's like two hundred dollars.
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  Could have got it for free for like ten years. If he wouldn't have
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  pissed off Direct TV they offered it to you with a dick, I would
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  have been like sealed, I'll talk later, because I am not. I'm
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  not a Direct TV remember anymore. But if you want to sponsor sports at
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  lunch anytime, or have your own network on direct TV. We would love
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  to Well, yeah, I am sorry, I was wrong. Since he's
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  like, I love direct TV, so she's like, all right, let's
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  get bad. Any wait, back to the deal for the PAC twelve.
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  It was horrible from the get go. You know, we talked about it
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  a little bit about back in the day years ago that the PAC twelve and
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  Big twelve at one time we thought was going to merge themselves or the PAC
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  twelve in the a SEC they had talked about it, and so you had
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  at that time Texas Oklahoma trying to kill te ANSU was the rumor at that
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  time to go the PAC twelve and some of those schools poo poo it.
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  Now, what I would love to have known is the four schools that are
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  left in the dark right now, which Stanford, California, Washington State and
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  uh yeah, were they the ones that might have poo pooed this to make
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  themselves feel stronger? Well? Who knows. I mean allegedly it could have
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  been any of them, and it could have been the big boys that didn't
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  want to compete. I don't know. I mean, bring Texas, remember
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  pak Texas has always thought that they were better than everybody. Bring Texas and
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  and know we see where they're at. Bring Texas and Oklahoma into any conference
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  besides the SEC, and most members are concerned. I don't think bringing us
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  into the SEC that the big daddies are going. I mean, they're just
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  gonna keep doing what they do. I mean they're not concerned. The recruiting
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  is gonna say, nothing's changing with us moving this season, So I think
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  it's gonna be better. I'm saying. I'm talking about Alabama. Yeah,
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  Georgia, none of the So you move us to the PAC twelve, it
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  changes USC, I mean it does. It affects them way more than it
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  does Alabama. Georgia lsum. Well, because you get a national branded school
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  like Texas Oklahoma right now, it doesn't give a shit, is what you're
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  saying, which is true. No, Yeah, he's not concerned. Kirby
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  Smart, he's very naked. Riley, Yes, why do you think he
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  left LU because we're moving the SEC. He's concerned about shit like that.
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  He's getting He's literally getting what he deserves. That's what it looks. He
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  won't he won't be in college football. Michigan fasspeeding, I mean on a
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  cold games. Now allegedly they have up on the hill. They have a
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  rule after after a certain amount of time, I don't know the date,
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  the Big ten does not do night games in certain areas mansion on a flood
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  because but you still get them cold amy kickoffs that we're all setting there watching
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  going, yes, I'm glad it's for him here. Yeah, because it
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  looks cold as ship there. Yeah, first morning game, our players am
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  and heat strokes. Those are freezing. They're sitting on the sideline in fourteen
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  coats and jackets and luckily that got a speed dash. But anyway, back
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  to that, so you've got you've got allegedly, as of tonight, you've
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  got reports, multiple sources reporting that uh Utah, Arizona State, Arizona,
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  obviously Colorado is already given. Well, they haven't announced it yet. The
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  schools have not Big twelve is only they're voting to bring them in. So
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  I don't know those schools have done the votes. Click on that and see
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  who the report is. Well, because as of two hours ago, it
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  was all reporting. Because when I read that those schools had done the votes
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  and it was just waiting on the Big twelve to bring them in. But
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  so is this all going to start at the same time the same time?
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  Why do that guy looks? And then what year does it go to?
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  Ten team playoff? Twelve? Arizona was approved? Is it ten and twelve?
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  Okay? So Arizona was approved, So it is official analysis in your
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  mark has made the announcement has before twelve Pete Camilla, twenty four, ten
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  and twelve ten or twelve teams in the playoff twelve twelve also fourteen twenty four.
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  So it all starts at the same time. That's gonna be so fun.
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  I mean, it's gonna be way better. It will make it.
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  Arizona had already been approved, Yeah, the regions and the regions had Yeah,
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  the regions had approved both. That wasn't announced, you see, that
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  was approved Arizona. But the rumor had it that this morning as a Friday,
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  we're on a Friday, that the PAC twelve is trying to still get
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  together to unanimously keep all night together. Yeah, they were. That never
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  happened because they don't have the money. They don't have a way. Now
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  once they remind you, I don't I don't think that that's honestly, how
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  that works. I think you get an invite by a conference and then you
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  decide to go, No, you can you can do Arizona. Arizona had
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  been asked to come. They were approved on Thursday. Obviously the other teams
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  are proved in fronty. But anyway, this was all allegedly two three hours
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  ago right now by this report, that was an eight fifty four, so
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  that the two are eight. Okay, so seven about well, I say
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  hours. It's late, so we were we were looking at this four or
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  five o'clock. All the rumors had it. But there it is. I
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  mean, your mark comes out from Big twelve, and hey, give credit
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  to your mark. And we've talked about this before. He's aggressive, he's
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  big on the money. He's not a duldrum guy at all. Shucks,
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  let me shake your hand. I'm gonna be aggressive. I'm not gonna I'm
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  gonna be a new Bold. We're talking. I mean, if you're a
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  commissioner of a conference, you're talking about sports, folks, and football's number
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  one, always is, probably always will be. And that's what he's pushing
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  now is to build that conference better. Interesting, I was going to talk
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  about a little bit when we were talking about payout. Anyway, So to
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  that Utah, Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, welcome to the Big twelve.
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  Uh wish we knew you because now our team o us moving on to
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  the SEC. But it's gonna make an interesting conference because I really like how
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  evenly matched up program wise that that Big twelve is. It's gonna be the
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  one. I mean, you don't have the SEC at times can be very
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  boring because it's the same two, two or three teams. Now moving oaklum
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  and Texas in with the twelve team playoffs, you're gonna be bouncing around a
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  little bit at times. Big ten, same thing, generally the same two
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  to three teams or House State. Do you know how they're going to do
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  that? Are they only so when they go to the ten and twelve team
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  playoffs? It's twelve? He said twelve? So when they go to the
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  twelve team playoffs, do they only take a certain number? For Power five
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  has automatic bid? What's that Power five has automatic So five teams will be
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  from the Power the five Power Conference. But what's going to happen at least
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  and this is this is why I said, if the PAC twelve doesn't survive,
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  it's going to be the AC moving into that position. You think that
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  what about the Mountain with I mean, I see what you're saying about the
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  AAC, but the Mountain West is more located towards I mean, but I
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  don't Yeah, they don't have to be better than number one sometimes and the
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  big boys are going to vote a mountain well. And that's a good point
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  because you're gonna see at times the SEC or the Big ten number five,
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  or they're gonna be fighting and they're gonna get in before the uh potentially ACC
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  or Big twelve number two or three, how about three? Most of these
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  big conferences now are gonna two in. Generally the Big ten SEC is getting
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  too at least at least two maybe three. Funny is when it's a final
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  four every year, SEC teams and they're just gonna be said and they're like,
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  well we told you from the beginning. Yeah, but you said,
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  I think I don't think they they don't think they can, but yeah,
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  well sure they can. I mean, you're gonna fo sure they could.
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  Why couldn't you got to see them? You have team you could. But
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  I'm saying if they would, they could all the sea. Four of them
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  could potentially be the one the seating is in the seating set to where the
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  one there's a Power five conference with the best record goes in at number three.
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  No, but either way, what if the top five are all tied
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  wins? I think what he says, that's what I'm saying. If you
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  see some upset, if you did, you know, like the NFL,
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  you got four divisions technically on a map that I'm looking at, you could
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  have SEC as a one seat on each one where it could be final four
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  SEC every year. That I mean, that's a way I'm looking at it.
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  I mean the way you're looking at what you're saying, the SEC will
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  just be in one division right over there in the corner and you do the
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  rest, which is dumb as fucking my opinion, because I mean it would
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  be appealing. They would every year. Yeah, yeah, I mean it'd
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  be so bad it come down to, I mean, oh, you would
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  get a final two every down then, which would just be insane every now
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  and then. Well no, you're talking. But I think that was the
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  point we were getting to, is you're you're strengthening where the big ten is
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  going to get those two or three teams, and but the Big twelve to
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  me is going to be super exciting. AAC obviously too, because you don't
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  have a designated real front powerhouse right now because of the AAC. Losing those
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  teams to the Big twelve took the better ones Cincinnati uf UCF, which division
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  dissolved during all this, Well none yet but PAC twelve, that's what I
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  say. And that's one. There's only four left. So where are they
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  gonna go? Well, Sean was gonna bring that up. We talked about
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  the Mountain West to the AC's because one of them has to be dissolving.
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  Sean thinks it's the AC. I think it was is gonna gonna absorb them.
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  That's what I'm saying. You think it's the AC. I think it's
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  the Mountain West because of where they're located. More you're going off of the
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  schools. It's in the conference right now. I'm gonna go with a C.
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  Also, they think for the private schools, who's got Tulsa that it's
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  more brainiac schools if you think about the AAC. No, you're the a
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  S mu uh yeah we did it, yes, yeah, yeah last week
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  last week. Yeah, that's why I didn't understand. I didn't know any
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  of those teams. Rice a right, another one, Yeah, not big
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  schools. But you also Stanford is you may be huge and medical such Stanford
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  is such a huge Stanford callis such a everything, such a jine. Yeah.
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  And here's the one that I'm missing out the most is Oregon State.
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  Hell of a football team last year one of the best coaches. They've been.
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  They've been down, but you've got now isn't really in the last twenty
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  years, they've been up in the gonna be at USC last year. Uh
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  antenuously been and that's a good up and down. They've been up more than
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  they've been. Yeah, they've been up a lot more than they've been done
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  well, I mean mediocrity. I mean you're not You're not going to get
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  them to be We're not comparing them to Alabama George Well, no, nothing
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  even like that. I'm saying that they've been moving up and up and up
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  well. But I mean you're also look at the competition. I think that's
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  what breeds that then then rise and falls. I mean you have Washington State
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  that had the Big twelve. We need that competition to get better. No,
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  Okay, that's cool, that's cute. Ye. Anyway, you're you're
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  looking at you're looking at now the new Big twelve. You're looking at Kansas
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  State. Uh, and then you've got Arizona, who I think's building.
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  I mean, you talk about and obviously we're football guys here, but you
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  talk about a mean basketball conference. Now moving Arizona, Arizona State, Bobby
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  Hurry, the Arizona State, Kansas. Yeah, you you have the NA
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  when it does this, when these division alignments happen or whatever's at the same
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  for like basketball and everything, they all align the same way. Yes,
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  most generally her name plays a acc in the well, they play SEC schools
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  in football too, and they get a cut actually off that. Plus they
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  do oh yeah yeah, that's all. Yeah, yeah, we're done.
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  I meant, I mean that is like, well, I don't know,
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  I think the Big twelves are harder basketball conference in the SEC. Kansas,
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  you know, you got Kentucky. You got Kentucky. That's good, You've
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  got Alabama has made a start. Now they've lost they lost the Williams kid
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  Um to the draft, so I don't know what. But they have a
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  good coach um. So their program is on the rise at Big colves.
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  Well, and your Mark is a big basketball guy, because rumors have had
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  it that he wanted Connecticut to bring down just because of basketball and Gonzaga.
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  There was those talks about that, so they anyway, I wanted to talk
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  a little bit about when we talked about obviously, all this has been about
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  money, and I looked at twenty twenty two's payout stats or payout numbers for
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  the Big Ten was eight hundred and forty five million. SEC was a little
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  above eight hundred million. This is revenue, is revenue all TV deals and
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  stuff. ACC was six hundred and seventeen million. See the drop there,
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  that's eight that's that's not quite two hundred million, but it's it's pretty big
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  between the SEC and the ACC. And then you've got the Pac twelve was
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  at the Pac twelve was actually fourth at five hundred and eighty million, and
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  the Big twelve was fifth at four hundred and eighty million. For them,
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  however, they had the third highest per school payout because you remember they had
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  the lowest ment. We only had ten teams, so each individual team there
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  was forty two to forty nine million. Obviously, fifty eight million was big
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  ten and then SEC was almost fifty million. Acc comes into the poultry thirty
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  nine points nine and the PAC twelve is at thirty seven million. So now
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  all of the talk and we've done all this alignment tens increased. So now
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  the one that squawking the most is Florida State. Now they've been pissed off
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  for a while. Yeah, they are. They're willing to because but their
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  buyout I think there ran a rights is three hundred million and some change.
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  But there was an article that was really I don't know who did it that
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  said that they can put that into a private equity and get They've hired JP,
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  Morgan Chase or something that money to try to get the buyout. That's
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  exactly right. They've tried to put that in private equity to try to spend
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  that as a buyout. Now and they're right. And we've talked about this
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  on a PASS podcast when we're talking about it last year about conference alignment.
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  Now, one thing that I'd love to pull up is because you guys thought
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  conference through alignment was done. I do remember that for a fact. You
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  said before the season started, Now, how amazing that how fast it's spun
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  that we've practically demolished or or and it's the own to mind whatever. But
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  anyways, solved there. Well they're not dissolved yet pretty much, but they're
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  gonna have to be. There's four. But MS Shoe comes out and says,
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  hey, listen, we're in the ACC. You know our media rights
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  And we looked at these numbers and I didn't pull them up again, but
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  how strong they and Clemson were at the top, and then all the revenue
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  for the media rights and everyone else the viewership was a poultry below that.
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  And we'll talk of we'll segue into the ACC here in a little bit,
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  and we do the picks, but they're like, hey, we want out.
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  And University of Central Florida coming into the Big twelve this year. And
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  see that's one thing that the conferences that we don't talk about, is the
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  Big twelve actually made this first. They are actually not all like everyone else
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  twenty four. They're right now. We've got four new teams in the Big
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  Twelve that we've got to contend with. Those teams will get an equal share
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  this year that exceeds what Florida State is getting for their equal share, and
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  Clemson exactly because they're all so they brought up and said, hey, we
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  need a little bit of you know, hey, maybe maybe Syracuse gets a
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  little something and we get a little something something up here. Um, and
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  they can blame them. I don't. I don't blame them at all.
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  I agree with them, and I think that's what broke up. Probably that
• 23:15
  all are the ones. It's son that thirty year deal or whatever it was,
• 23:18
  because the richest steal in history, and everyone pass everybody on the back
• 23:25
  and went, look at us, we're better than the SEC for like two
• 23:27
  minutes. But it doesn't go to like twenty thirty six or thirty eight or
• 23:30
  something like the Greater Rights yea, in the thirties, it's twenty thirty six
• 23:36
  because everybody else's runs out in twenty thirty one. Acc still goes to twenty
• 23:41
  thirty six. Well, and right now the PAC twelve didn't have any So
• 23:44
  those schools right now have no fines, there's no penalties. No, they're
• 23:48
  out. Like I said, I didn't really understand ocutions. Where's Nebraska Big
• 23:52
  ten? Now? Another thing about them, that's a good point you brought
• 23:55
  up on the payout Nebraska rhut curse and Maryland still get of a payout.
• 24:00
  The corn Huskers, they still get less of a payout than the other the
• 24:03
  original founding Big ten members. I didn't look about how much less. But
• 24:07
  because they come later in the deal, they get that. But the Big
• 24:11
  twelve negotiated their TV deal. That's what's so great about your markets. You
• 24:15
  said, everybody gets thirty. Everybody gets the same. The equal share doesn't
• 24:18
  matter. Include up to x amount that will get that. And that's why
• 24:23
  they're like, hey, party all, let's bring in these four. Now,
• 24:26
  Let's be honest. Who's real excited about bringing Arizona and Arizona State in
• 24:32
  for football? I love the Utah. I love the Utah because I think
• 24:38
  Utah and that was proof. But you're trying to wear your tiny Utah.
• 24:42
  I think you talk. I think you talking compare with the Oklahoma States.
• 24:48
  Well, what one can argue that Utah has not been the second best team
• 24:51
  in the Pac twelve over the past ten fifteen years. I'm not arguing That's
• 24:53
  what I'm saying. I think they get because before they overall football, before
• 24:59
  they done this all realignment thing, it was it was down to pretty much
• 25:03
  Oklahoma State in Kansas State being the two top two. Maybe Tech. Yeah,
• 25:10
  okay, I love it. I just said I just said maybe Tech.
• 25:12
  But those three teams, we're gonna be vying for the Big Twelve Championship
• 25:18
  every single year. But now you throw Utah in the mix that that kind
• 25:22
  of breaks things up a little bit. It's gonna be weird to see in
• 25:26
  Utah win the Big twelve Championship every year where we once stood. But hey,
• 25:33
  but you know you think about it though, is I think that helps
• 25:36
  their recruiting just into Texas? Good for them? Yeah, exactly. You
• 25:41
  can still recruit in that California area because of proximity, but it helps it.
• 25:45
  Now you're freman this way because you know you can say, hey,
• 25:48
  we play a lot to Baylor, which is in a playing field, which
• 25:53
  is what they're trying to put a twelve team playoff. It's gonna be fun.
• 25:56
  It's gonna be more fun to watch. I think that the I think
• 26:00
  that the look how that shirt fits it will find for you guys. But
• 26:06
  you had two shirts on and way better. But it's what's your question?
• 26:11
  Might not be the time? Who are you most excited about seeing with this
• 26:15
  twelve team like playoff? Who most programs you're most excited to see, well,
• 26:18
  to see to see everybody that's allowed to get in now. No,
• 26:22
  the programs you're most excited to see that you can root for. Say your
• 26:25
  team is out and he's like, well, at least what's your face is
• 26:26
  still in there? I mean, you got some programs you're excited to see,
• 26:30
  like finally be you know, playing in a playoff game. I think
• 26:33
  you could potentially see Tulsa in a playoff. Really, I do think it's
• 26:37
  mean personally, you guys. I mean they've had three or four years ago,
• 26:42
  a little longer than that. Yeah, Okay, Todd Graham was there.
• 26:47
  They had that program. Role in Todd Graham, I got Arkansas,
• 26:51
  Nebraska, Penn State, all great teams that just never really make those two
• 26:56
  of those not that great. But I just meant, like, with the
• 26:57
  twelve team playoffs, sure, it's gonna be fun to see Irasa South Carolina,
• 27:03
  but it's gonna be like, no, it's gonna be like watching a
• 27:08
  lot of Outback Bowl, Peach Bowl Bowl Game teams get to be an actual
• 27:14
  they playoff and they moved to the next Do you think we'll see one hundred
• 27:17
  point game? No? With the twelve team. No, I don't either
• 27:22
  this scene those I mean, he goes up, it's Alabama and it's just
• 27:25
  one hundred four. Well, another thing I didn't take about the playoff is
• 27:30
  the first games are at home, their home stadium games first round. Is
• 27:33
  he? Is he? But I do think Zach that the one, two,
• 27:37
  three, four is going to get a buy if not is he is
• 27:38
  he? Yeah, we talked about that the way it was. That was
• 27:41
  my first four teams in there, and yeah, yeah, because absolutely you
• 27:47
  won't have the worst team playing the number one seed, because generally that the
• 27:52
  top four seeds are gonna get buys in five through nine play of the round.
• 27:55
  I mean, because there's a lot of Alabama teams. If you can
• 27:57
  see you can see a Wyoming to Alabama teams. If I took the twelve
• 28:00
  teams, I could pick one of those teams in the twelve. I mean
• 28:03
  that they would absolutely just a massacre, like unreal. They're not in the
• 28:07
  power five. But you could sue him. In the twelve. I mean,
• 28:15
  they have to give they have to give a nonpower I think it was
• 28:18
  last year and they although they did, I thought there was a reason why
• 28:22
  they was well, no, it's a it's it's not non power not necessarily.
• 28:29
  I don't think it's not necessary. Sairly Um. Each one of the
• 28:33
  group of five will make the playoff, right, yes, and then the
• 28:37
  best non the best gets gets a bid. The best one that was the
• 28:42
  well no, I mean, but that's with the t that's kind of like
• 28:45
  the Sugar Bowl. Now that the in the Bowl games, you know,
• 28:48
  two lane got in, they were the best non power five. They would
• 28:52
  be in the playoff anyway. That would that, I know, That's what
• 28:56
  I'm saying. That would be the non power five to be in. There's
• 29:00
  always going to be a non power five that they don't count. The a
• 29:02
  get an automatic bid. They don't get an automatic count. The AAC is
• 29:06
  a power five though. That's why that's what I'm saying. They're non power
• 29:08
  five five. Yes, there's automatic bid. Is the way I thought it
• 29:15
  went. I'm with that. That's what I thought it was too, but
• 29:18
  I'm may be wrong. And then everybody I'm not arguing that hard. Everybody
• 29:21
  else swept top twenty five. Yeah, but there is one interesting stat about
• 29:25
  that too. Now, this is just to bring up Wyoming can gets old.
• 29:29
  There is what there is how can a team like Wyoming make it?
• 29:30
  Well, no, I just I didn't. I didn't. I mean I
• 29:33
  guess they could, but they'd have to have a run like Cincinnatic season.
• 29:37
  But another point is is they can't have in the top four right now.
• 29:41
  It is how they have it standards. They can't it cannot be a non
• 29:45
  conference champion in the in the top four. Correct, Yeah, So who's
• 29:48
  that leave out? Who's that leave out? Pat twelve? Notre Dame what
• 29:56
  they're saying, hold on about No, that's a whole No, I want
• 30:00
  to cash about the calf. That's a huge caveat there. It is they
• 30:03
  could never make the top four and have a buy yeah, until they join
• 30:07
  they don't. They have to play a majority of games in one conference.
• 30:12
  That's where they're playing in the ACC. So that way they can actually play
• 30:17
  in the time. I don't know if they have to, but they do
• 30:19
  every year. That's the way getting NBC cut money. They're also getting football
• 30:23
  cut. No, but I thought there was a weird I thought there was
• 30:26
  a weird thing about them. If they played now, you'd be no if
• 30:30
  they played a certain amount of games in one conference. No, right now,
• 30:37
  there they play from because time they've been doing they get money. Yes,
• 30:42
  they get basketball's all time they're in the AC. Yeah, it's just
• 30:45
  football's independent. They get the NBC money if they also get ACC money.
• 30:48
  And I looked last year, it was like seventeen eighteen million roughly that they
• 30:52
  got just for being in the a ACC for those few games. Were the
• 30:56
  other groups of them only got thirty seven million as a full time, a
• 31:00
  full time plus they were still got over at NBC money, still get they
• 31:04
  still get NBC money. Yeah, And that's why we talked about earlier that
• 31:08
  we can't fathom away that Stanford, California, Washington State, air Oregon State
• 31:15
  for one, can go independent. They just think got it. I mean,
• 31:18
  so they What who's going to be interesting right now is what true leadership
• 31:23
  is going to come out of the other divisions. You talked about mountin West,
• 31:26
  We've talked about AAC. Who's going to come in there, try to
• 31:30
  make the deals and who's going and who's going back? So their TV partners
• 31:36
  and going, okay, here's what we got, you know. And if
• 31:40
  you remember at one time, and one of you brought this up earlier,
• 31:42
  that that San Diego State was n't wonder why, Oh they knew the money
• 31:52
  wasn't there? Yeah, why don't I think they knew that nothing was there
• 31:56
  yet? It was like everybody else has already made deals. And there was
• 32:00
  a report that that I read on some site, and I don't know how
• 32:04
  true it is, but it was that that they had went to NBC three
• 32:07
  times the PAC twelve did to save them and it just wouldn't happen. So
• 32:12
  you see that is But anyway, so anything else on conference talk realignment,
• 32:15
  it's interesting. I really, being as an Oklahoma fan, it would have
• 32:21
  been a lot of fun to have Oklahoma in the future Big twelve obviously,
• 32:30
  but the way it's aligne now, yes, but Texas and Oklhoma belongs in
• 32:32
  the SEC they are, yeah yeah. And Tulsa or Texas used to be
• 32:39
  in Southwest Conference anyway, which had Arkansas and then others, so it kind
• 32:46
  of it kind of made a fit to do that. But you know,
• 32:52
  anyway, anything on anything else on conference realignment, it's fun. It's all
• 32:57
  twenty twenty four is going to be, you know, and as we do,
• 32:59
  our are out of state trips, uh going to Kansas this year for
• 33:04
  a EU game. Next year. Next year. Um, it's going to
• 33:08
  be Uh, it's going to be interesting to see what the new teams we're
• 33:14
  gonna get to go see in the new staves that we've never been to before.
• 33:16
  Arkansas, there's an sec there where do you want to go? Kakiaki?
• 33:22
  They are? Yeah, Arkansas the game I want to go see.
• 33:24
  I think that Arkansas, you know they're gonna do that. Year one that
• 33:29
  we're in there, we're playing Arkansas. You know they're gonna do that.
• 33:31
  I think it's gonna try to be a secondary rivalry. But it's our new
• 33:36
  one they're replacing. It's going to be in Arkansas. Oh no, we're
• 33:40
  still Texas. We're going to play them every year. Yeah, but well
• 33:45
  Texas was ours and I'm saying, o SU. They're replacing SU with Arkansas.
• 33:49
  Yeah, I can see that. That's all I'm saying. They're a
• 33:51
  secondary. So here's my question. I have a question for you. Yeah,
• 33:53
  Pack twelve, it gets dissolved. It's no more. I mean,
• 33:57
  they may keep the name, but they're the twelve is done right because I'm
• 34:00
  saying that the only way they the only way they keep the name is if
• 34:05
  Mountain West goes to the PAC twelve, all of them. That's the only
• 34:07
  way the abs them and takes it too. Yeah, but they won't take
• 34:10
  that name because that that is a specific team. Now, they won't do
• 34:15
  anything with it. But anyway, go ahead. So you think they're dissolved.
• 34:17
  The PAC twelve is dissolved only if they merge with the Mountains West.
• 34:22
  And because of that proximity of schools, they're kind of in that Pacific area.
• 34:28
  A lot of them are, I can see them. Maybe sat name
• 34:30
  is more synonymous with Big Time than a Mountain West would be. Now if
• 34:36
  the ACC poaches him that that that name and everything else is done. Okay,
• 34:39
  yeah, what are your thoughts? Well, my thoughts right now is
• 34:44
  that a fat guy has destroyed our camera. Okay, now that is that
• 34:49
  my breast. It's like a big, like weird cocoon thing. I don't
• 34:55
  even know what's going on, did you know? Well, as you fix
• 34:59
  that, we'll go ahead. Christ And what was your point on that?
• 35:01
  No, I was just wondering what your thoughts was. Is the PAC twelve
• 35:05
  gone? The Pact twelve name is gone. They're dissolved. They're absorbed or
• 35:09
  dissolved, unless you said the ACC Sean huts your thoughts. He's thinking he's
• 35:15
  having to fix the camera. Okay, so Sean's out. He would probably
• 35:20
  he would probably agree with me, just because we think that the AC is
• 35:22
  gonna take Do you think that the best watch in the schools, the smarter
• 35:30
  I really do things like that. I take it because of what you do.
• 35:37
  There is space. When it's the pains to the Big Twelve, it
• 35:42
  just it was it's a it's a big span, a great distance whatever,
• 35:46
  and everyone wondered what they were doing. But now UCF's over there, um
• 35:52
  and and then so and then it makes sense. But I didn't even get
• 35:55
  to my point about the Big Twelve. I thought the best thing was the
• 35:58
  b y u Utah rival comes back back. Yes, sorry, let's move
• 36:02
  on now, let's talk about let's as we talked about conference through linement,
• 36:06
  let's move into A A C. This is our pick, the C A
• 36:09
  CCCC. There's too many a's in season a season, and we need wrestling.
• 36:15
  There was a wa w w a e w a w awa and we
• 36:21
  need that package aa w oh god. Okay, mid bit South, Okay,
• 36:29
  new mid South. We're not starting with Christon tonight, christ Christon,
• 36:31
  Let's start on the ACC. I don't necessarily think we need to like go
• 36:39
  through all of this. Well, I just want I just wanted to.
• 36:42
  Is this a division that will potentially be merging with someone? No, no,
• 36:45
  no, no, hold on, I guess this kind of a was
• 36:50
  doing all this stuff. No, we're pretty Flora here is this isn't changing
• 36:53
  this year. I got you. Yeah, Florida State is bitching about the
• 36:57
  money they're getting. Clempson is kind of getting on the time as everyone's piece.
• 37:02
  So I could see a com and see he's telling them to shut the
• 37:07
  fuck up, and I didn't see that. Ye suck it up. And
• 37:08
  it's like, well, you guys, well because they know that's where it
• 37:14
  starts. You got a little someone bitching and then all of a sudden they're
• 37:16
  like, Okay, I'm gonna grab my friend. I don't think it's Clemson.
• 37:21
  There's been could be Miami, not even them. I tell you weird
• 37:25
  when I heard I heard it. Virginia was the one. I know.
• 37:30
  It sounds crazy. The academics, the enrollment, the size. I'm just
• 37:37
  telling you. I'm just telling an't they turn them to be high? And
• 37:40
  hey, by the way, I R what do you think about North Carolina.
• 37:45
  I've heard the same thing as you, and on the pics that we're
• 37:49
  talking about. I got Virginia. Everybody does. I do. And they're
• 37:54
  the one. They're one of the one as well. Okay they're they're third
• 38:00
  from the bottom. For me. I got Virginia last. Virginia Tech.
• 38:04
  Quick may Virginia in Virginia Tech. The text, no Virginia Tech. Hang
• 38:14
  on Virginia is what's ther mascot? I don't know the cavaliers and the hookies?
• 38:17
  Correct? Okay, two too? Well, that was another thing about
• 38:25
  talking about Virginia is a possibility. It's a state school. Is the state
• 38:29
  school? Clemson is not the state school. Clemson is good at football,
• 38:32
  not a real quick just like DETERI that I'll take two seconds. Did you
• 38:37
  notice that Tulsa's getting a new mascot? And once you have? We announced
• 38:40
  it yet No, it hasn't and they haven't showed a picture of what he
• 38:43
  looks like. I got his feet. I saw it. Yeah, and
• 38:45
  like you can tell, he's still gonna be Hey, what was the what
• 38:47
  was his name before that was like slick master? What like an oil slick?
• 38:52
  No? What what name? Kane chaptain Kane, Is that what it
• 38:59
  was? They were? Yeah, they had one that was fucking um earlier,
• 39:02
  like in the seventies or eighties, maybe nineties, and I was like,
• 39:06
  wow, I haven't looked kind of cool and creepy. But anyway,
• 39:08
  okay, so you've got how many teens, Sean did you have? You
• 39:15
  can't move over to that. Well, I'm just looking at it. What
• 39:17
  do you what do you need? What do you fourteen teams? What you
• 39:21
  need to see this fourteen? I'm sorry, I thought you wrote shit down?
• 39:23
  I did? I have them all down, but I did I need
• 39:27
  not. I did my top four. Then I kind of like what I
• 39:31
  got? Number five? Was that on the NFL? What does that note
• 39:34
  say? Which in the NFL? But very bottom this one? Oh yeah,
• 39:38
  oh no, oh no's going there? Yeah? What does that say?
• 39:43
  Kenny Wee loves uh cock? No? Okay, I believe that.
• 39:50
  Thank you for Why would you rad those notes? Taking over my notes?
• 39:53
  The kids wrote it? Okay, So who does everybody have for number one?
• 39:58
  It shouldn't be I have Florida state. I do it go ahead for
• 40:04
  this year or this coming year, this coming year. I've got I have
• 40:07
  Florida State Clemson is a toss up, and Clemson's lost a lot, so
• 40:12
  I kind of have them too. So I do have Florida State one,
• 40:15
  but it is a toss up. Well, the opening God separation is huge
• 40:17
  money there too. Florida stated one sixty five, Clemson at one ninety,
• 40:22
  and then you get to North Carolina at six fifty. Yes, I think
• 40:27
  so you look at that. Well, if you want to talk, here's
• 40:30
  the deal with Florida State. They're doing all this bitching. They're saying they
• 40:32
  need more money, data datta dat. They always projected to do really well,
• 40:37
  and they they fall on their face lately, but they know not not
• 40:40
  in the past. I'm talking the last three or four years, they have
• 40:44
  fell on their face. So I cannot. I mean, I've got them
• 40:46
  one, but I'm a little apprehensive about it because they they go ahead and
• 40:52
  they choke the last three or four years as the announce it. Well,
• 41:00
  the deal with them is since since when Mike Norville got there from Memphis,
• 41:05
  the team was horrid. I mean, the god what is his name?
• 41:12
  What's a and m uh what I thought, Jim Jim Fish, Jeff Fisher
• 41:17
  that Sarah soon Jimbo Fisher, Jimbo Fisher, Jimbo fish. No, yeah,
• 41:23
  Jimbo when Jimbo it was, is it Jimbo Fisheries. Yes, Florida
• 41:30
  State. He was a Florida State. Yea, So he won national championship.
• 41:32
  Left him like ship. Then he went to Day and M and there's
• 41:35
  still a ship. Anyways. No, Mike Norvelle took over from Memphis,
• 41:39
  brought a different style offense, a little up tempo. But Florida State classically
• 41:45
  was known for their defense. Bobby Bowden had I think it was Mickey Andrews
• 41:50
  name was he that that that big defensive specialists and they had some monsters that
• 41:57
  played defense, uh for that team. So you can't have separate conversations.
• 42:04
  Oh my god, we're still talking about Seth. You can't see the picture
• 42:07
  of Oh yeah. So anyway, we're talking about Florida State and Clemson.
• 42:12
  The the defense and that's been their weakness. Offense is good. Jordan Travis
• 42:15
  the quarterback. Uh, I'm just I'm just saying Clemson has the running back
• 42:21
  is good. I'm saying Floridas talent has went down the last two or three
• 42:23
  years. Sorry you went down, but they've still played at a high level.
• 42:28
  They've been close a game or two away from from being back in the
• 42:32
  playoffs. I mean they're really close. Florida State has had better talent and
• 42:37
  they played below their talent level. It's my point. They have there's a
• 42:45
  table and the floor. Now sorry, they have Gablubnik, the youngster that
• 42:52
  started last year for Clemson as a quarterback, DJ Yes went to Oregon State.
• 42:59
  That's their star this year. He transferred Oregon State. So, and
• 43:02
  they hired Garrett Riley from TCUs. They were using they were they were using
• 43:07
  they were they were using them? Oh no, he did last year at
• 43:10
  the end. Yes, he's the new kid. Yes, agreed. Now,
• 43:13
  I don't know if that was an injury deal maybe, or if that
• 43:15
  was just ugreed, ug ugly but talented and was a five star guy coming
• 43:23
  at it. So I don't Bunch and Spencer Sanders play one. One must
• 43:27
  forget. Last year they lost their offensive coordinator he's and defensive coordinator at Oklahoma
• 43:31
  and Tony Elliott said Virginia and they were still at the top echelon of the
• 43:36
  division. That's what I'm saying. They were right there the AC Yes,
• 43:39
  ACCM yes, so I agree. I totally agree, and I've gotten division.
• 43:43
  I've got I've got them second. Also, though I like club Ki
• 43:46
  Garrett Riley's going to score some points. The defense has to play well.
• 43:51
  If I Florida States defense plays well, they are you're talking final four.
• 43:55
  In my opinion, I like the Travis kid. They they played. You
• 44:00
  can start the hell of a defense. Though that when they one of the
• 44:02
  worst, it's one of the worst. I have Sean, you had your
• 44:05
  picks on that. What AC first? Second place? Okay, so you're
• 44:10
  the same who do you? Who do you? Guys got third through fifth?
• 44:15
  UNC, Louisville, NC State, Miami pit Than Dukes, Syracuse,
• 44:21
  Wait Forest BC. Okay, I only have one different I only have one
• 44:24
  difference in you that you said, and that was the NC State And uh,
• 44:30
  I mean I'm gonna say that again. You had UNC was number three,
• 44:37
  Louisville come in at number four. Oh that's high. Oh I got
• 44:40
  them lower. Yeah, new coach Jeff Brom. Now that's Brom though,
• 44:45
  But who doesn't change much? Like they didn't lose anything to them. Hey.
• 44:47
  An interesting stat about them though, two is they don't play Florida State
• 44:52
  or North Carolina or cliveson who did you talk to you when you say him
• 44:54
  sat you? You all you didn't know that. It's why they're probably better
• 44:59
  to be picked hire. They're interesting. They're not a good team. Well
• 45:02
  that's but they don't play anybody. I mean that's like, that's like Oklaoma
• 45:07
  State this year, we'll talk about them. They don't play any team from
• 45:10
  Texas or an interesting for you actually anyway, go ahead on what was your
• 45:16
  picks? Louisville, NC State, Miami, Pitt, Duke, Qus,
• 45:24
  Wake, BC, Georgia Tech, Virginia and vote? Now you writing this
• 45:30
  down show or Crest? No? Sorry, no, I kind of want
• 45:35
  to. I know you've got it. Okay, he's got it. Okay,
• 45:38
  now which you know I actually have? I actually have them a little
• 45:45
  higher too. I've dropped Pitt down a little bit. I have Louisville actually
• 45:49
  at six, which I said was a little high even for myself, but
• 45:54
  I like their schedule three two oh North Carolina. You had Miami at four,
• 46:00
  year liner, I had my Miami at four. I got Miami at
• 46:04
  five. Who'd you have at four? I had NC? Stated, did
• 46:07
  you have Duke? So that's why I had had n Clemson for two seconds.
• 46:14
  I was like, that would be the top four in my opinion.
• 46:15
  Oh, you're right, I did have Duke down. I'm sorry, I
• 46:19
  just wrote that in order. Duke actually won nine games last year, but
• 46:22
  had a better schedule. They lost a lot of players. No, they
• 46:27
  have seventeen returning starters. Actually for Duke, their schedule is hired harder this
• 46:31
  year. So who did they lose? I got them at eight. I
• 46:34
  got Duke at eight in the conference four five. But no, they lost
• 46:37
  their quarterback, didn't they? Yeah, I got them at eight in the
• 46:42
  conference Duke, that's gonna be low. I think I'm gonna go. I
• 46:45
  had Duke at I did have them at eight. So where'd you have Pitt
• 46:50
  Pitt? I have them right about. I hated Duke's schedule. Do you
• 46:53
  pull them up their schedule? No, so what are you doing? Then?
• 46:57
  What do you have pit? I have pit At? You're just screaming
• 47:02
  him? Yeah, I didn't like. I thought defense, they're gonna lose
• 47:06
  a lot of players. Tampa Bay's first round pick was their defensive line.
• 47:09
  Let's see, there's at least three wins to start off. I don't know
• 47:14
  about that. That might be a throw up game. No, I thought
• 47:16
  I thought they had a hard a hard schedule, because well, new coach
• 47:22
  a lot of the teams leaving UL Lafayette. I don't know who's coaching there
• 47:24
  right now, who was coaching there? I don't know, not like a
• 47:30
  Holtz. Let's skip Holtz. No. Now if that's is that Louising Now
• 47:34
  that was Louisiana State. Now is what it's called. No, that's Louisiana
• 47:37
  Universitianna. So that was the guy that went to Florida. Okay, Uh,
• 47:39
  then they've got a run of Notre Dame and here's where they get beat
• 47:44
  up. Notre Dame, NC State, Florida State, then Louisville. Well
• 47:50
  then Wake, which that should be a win. That should be a win,
• 47:53
  say Wakes on the down, and then you got UNC and then you
• 47:57
  got Vagina and Pitt to close up. So what happy wins you see there?
• 48:02
  Though? I think less than nine like they had last year. Oh
• 48:07
  yeah, definitely less than nine. I'm looking at two, but maybe three
• 48:15
  four. I had BC last Actually I thought they were the worst team.
• 48:21
  I had them second to last. I got Virginia Boston College, Virginia Tech.
• 48:24
  That's my bottom three. I had. I had Virginia a little higher.
• 48:29
  I had them at number nine. I had Wake at eight. Syracuse's
• 48:37
  team. I got Wake at eight Syracuse. Two texts are down the bos.
• 48:39
  Syracuse is ten, Duke is nine. Oh that's right, Drake May
• 48:45
  is the quarter. I have Georgia georg I have Virginia Tech at twelve.
• 48:50
  I have Boston College at thirteen, in Virginia at fourteen. Spencer rest so
• 48:53
  mine, So you have yours already numbered. Put it number next to yours
• 48:57
  for me, and I'm gonna tell you mine because my right, Okay,
• 49:00
  I'm right here. You got just put a number next to the teams.
• 49:01
  Florida State, Clemson. This is what takes us. Just talk. You
• 49:05
  could be talking. I'm telling him. You can conversations. I could.
• 49:09
  I couldn't yelled at the boy guys. We're talking about it a mascot when
• 49:15
  I'm talking about the acc AC. Well, that was AAC that you were
• 49:22
  talking about. Though. North Carolina Miami have four. Then I put Louisville
• 49:28
  at five because the schedule was easy. NC State at six. Hang on,
• 49:32
  Miami got uh, NC State six, okay seven, Duke eight,
• 49:43
  Pitt, what does that lady have to do with Duke nine was I'm sorry,
• 49:49
  what sunny dukes? What does that have to do? Who is my
• 49:53
  six? Kristin? Remind me, I got Florida State, Clemson, North
• 49:59
  Carolina, Miami, NC State, Duke, No, do not? NC
• 50:02
  State? UM five? Who's five? Who's five? You got? NC
• 50:08
  State is five? Is where? Five? Okay? NC State is six?
• 50:16
  Hm? Okay, Zack's asleep? NC State six? Duke seven,
• 50:22
  seven, eight? Yeah, yeah, fifty minutes. No, God,
• 50:28
  you take forever Syracuse ten? Sorry, all right, clean next time?
• 50:31
  And then I got just ask yourself? Do you go four? Probably that
• 50:37
  they didn't like Miami, though, I mean a lot of you got Syracuse?
• 50:43
  And then who's Boston College? US? The last one? You've already
• 50:45
  said that you got the Syracuse. So you got Virginia Tech or Georgia Tech?
• 50:50
  Above which one? You got the two techs? Georgia Tech second to
• 50:53
  last? Okay, so you got Virginia Tech. There's Drake May. Did
• 51:00
  you guys have Miami at five? Then, Sean, did you have two?
• 51:04
  Oh shit, I had Miami at five. I got NC stayed in
• 51:06
  there, but I did forget about you got there at four? NC stay
• 51:12
  at five who's four? Oh you had Miami six? Yeah, I don't
• 51:17
  like Miami. I know Miami, Clinton christ of Ball is a good recruiter.
• 51:22
  I just never really been impressed with this coaching. Yes, are in
• 51:24
  a move on? Yep, I got yours down. Yes, I got
• 51:29
  mine, So fifty we're in fifteen minutes. Oh perfect, we'll be done
• 51:35
  this football stuff. And no, this is where we take a turn.
• 51:38
  Folks in this last usually an hour? Are they taking the last? Because
• 51:43
  this is gonna be easy. Let's move. Let's do NFC West as we
• 51:46
  stay into football, were segue into we haven't started. We started with him
• 51:51
  the first time, started Sean the first time. I'll start with you,
• 51:53
  NFC, the boys taken over? Hold on, hold on, let me
• 51:58
  find okay West? Who do you have last? Place? NFC West?
• 52:02
  Are we starting lasting? And we go and everything? See if we all
• 52:07
  agree? Duke amaze that you didn't see dude, that's yeah, I know.
• 52:14
  I how about okay? Yeah? NFC? Who do you start with
• 52:19
  last? Everybody has Arizona last. I don't give a shit what anybody that's
• 52:22
  why? And then who do you have X? Let's not have who's last?
• 52:27
  Do we want to talk about what we all agree, then you just
• 52:30
  move on. We all know why I have Yeah, we all NFC?
• 52:36
  Who do you have last? Carolina or Cardinals? Where are you? Arizona
• 52:45
  is who you have? Events? I had to sustening did you have Arizona
• 52:49
  last? Cool? Do you have third? Everybody has the Rams? I
• 52:52
  do not. I do Soda Sean and Z actually being cute because he thinks
• 52:58
  he thinks their coach is the greatest ever. Okay, so I think,
• 53:00
  I mean and I think Matt Stafford real quick, real quick. I just
• 53:05
  want to say, in all of these that we've done, we've um Kenny
• 53:09
  is the only one that is ever in difference to anything. And today I'm
• 53:15
  actually gonna do one where I think this is how it's really gonna go.
• 53:19
  Hawks are going to me next the Seahawks. Did anyone have you have rams
• 53:23
  second to last? I'm getting yours because Za's different. Obviously, I've got
• 53:28
  mine wrote down at the top. Here's mine. I actually yea rams are
• 53:37
  rams are last? Or second last? Okay? Really yeah? They have
• 53:39
  not rebuilt that team. I got Seahawks. They're still doing little injuries.
• 53:44
  I mean Cooper Cup just got injured again. Stafford never plays generally a full
• 53:46
  seasonal quick super Bowl, No, no, real quick. I'm gonna let
• 53:52
  you guys go through this yourselves. I'll just tell you mine, and then
• 53:54
  you guys just do yours, because yours is going to be more liked than
• 53:58
  mine. This obviously, I'll like we just said it. Would you have
• 54:00
  the Niners? No, I meant all four? I have Cardinals, Hawks,
• 54:05
  Niners, Rams winning the division, Rams winning the division, I really
• 54:08
  do. Okay, it's a comeback season. It happens. They know they
• 54:12
  had the Super Bowl drunk, and that's totally fine. Cooper Cup is out,
• 54:15
  Matt Stafford is out, and I think that seems fine. The defense
• 54:20
  is totally fine. There's no need to number two, no need to pretenders.
• 54:24
  Obviously, I'm glad too. Who's the quarterback? It doesn't matter.
• 54:30
  I could play quarterback for him. When you have a team built like Genos
• 54:34
  Smith, I don't. I don't want a piece of paper. You want
• 54:36
  to put him number two? Rock party, that's obviously you guys, Number
• 54:40
  two. Seahawks. Number two is obviously Seahawks. Schedule up for the Seahawk
• 54:50
  Kinny, do you have forty nine Ers, Seahawks, Rams, Cardinals,
• 54:53
  and folks that are listening. If you are listening, this is the only
• 54:57
  one. I'm going to be bold about, Sean, You only one?
• 55:00
  Do you have? Rams? Cardinal? I think the Niners are gonna have
• 55:04
  some real bad quarterback issues. I don't think Brock's gonna turn out the way
• 55:07
  he should. I think Gina Smith is still Gina Smith. And I think
• 55:10
  the Rams won a Super Bowl and they're gonna bounce back. And I understand
• 55:14
  that like people have, people have came back. Maybe haven't bounced back.
• 55:16
  But Cooper Cup and fucking Matt Staffords. Enough have you seen Megatron and fucking
• 55:21
  Matt Stafford? It's enough, dude. Ye. They lost a lot of
• 55:23
  games. They made a bloff game, but I think the Bears made the
• 55:27
  playoffs more than they did. But these people have Aaron Donald and fucking I
• 55:30
  guess they were. They lost Jalen Ramsey. Who else they have besides Aaron
• 55:35
  Donald? Met exactly. I don't have anybody. I'm going to rams MS.
• 55:39
  You guys make fun of me all you want. I'm going to RAMS
• 55:42
  when I'm not. We're making fun of you now, and we'll make fun
• 55:45
  of you all year long. Yeah, that's fine. I'm going to Rams
• 55:47
  win that one. It's Rams or nine ers, I will I guess I
• 55:51
  could, oh al bold, I mean, but there no, I'm going
• 55:55
  to Hawks three though, and I do believe you got those predictions. I
• 56:00
  don't know why you guys think that the Rams are the Rams. Well,
• 56:05
  hold on, I mean, it's not like now nobody's preaching here that the
• 56:08
  Seahawks are going to go to the playoffs. I'm not. Yeah, they're
• 56:12
  just second place in this division. I said second to last, and yeah,
• 56:15
  second second place. We went from bottom to top, So I think
• 56:19
  they're second to last. You know, I think three of us have the
• 56:22
  same year different before. You've got way different than the quarterback coach left.
• 56:25
  What was the record last year the Rams? Can anyone tell me that five
• 56:30
  out? What's his facing cup? They're two best players, MVP and one
• 56:36
  of the best. Okay, so I'm I'm also banking on that Stafford's not
• 56:39
  going to stay healthy. What did the Seahawks go last year? A night
• 56:44
  there, nine and eight, nine to eight. You really don't think that
• 56:46
  the Rams San Francisco possibly, I mean they could possibly be number one.
• 56:52
  Possibly San Francisco's number one right there? Hands downs down. I think everything
• 56:59
  is going to rumble around them with this fucking brock Purty bullshit. Sorry,
• 57:02
  Sean, I got to listen to it all year long. I'm here to
• 57:06
  display my list. I'm telling you, if they have a stack team,
• 57:09
  just like the Eagles we talked about in preseason, or my conversation about Jalen
• 57:16
  Hurts is very average. No, no, I'm saying if you change,
• 57:21
  if you change, they have a stack team. But I'm saying, if
• 57:24
  you take the Cowboys, which was in my opinion, their team is right
• 57:29
  below those two, just just one tier. Day. Every time we talk
• 57:32
  about an NFL team, you gotta bring up the Cowboys. He loves the
• 57:37
  Cowboys. I think the Cowboys have a lot of talent. I really do.
• 57:42
  I want to be in a Cowboys locker room giving them kisses. I
• 57:45
  just I think they have congratulate. There is a problem, and their quarterback
• 57:50
  is a huge Those are the two worst problems if you are pretty big ones.
• 57:53
  I don't think the mother backs the second biggest problem. But really,
• 57:58
  I think they're coaching is horrific problem. I think their coaches are not coaching.
• 58:04
  Jerry Jones coaching, he won, he won a Super Bowl with a
• 58:08
  Hall of Fame quarterback. Talk to Bill Belichick about that too, who's regarded,
• 58:14
  who's regarded as one of the greatest coaches, if not the greatest coaches
• 58:17
  all time. He has not won nothing. Right, Well, I don't
• 58:22
  want to tear down this. I'm just you say you said. I just
• 58:27
  want to say one thing. You say, the coaching is Dallas' second biggest
• 58:31
  problem. But Jerry Jones has his finger in the whole mix of the coach
• 58:37
  was one and I said one and two because he, you know, coach
• 58:40
  dictates, you know, coach on the fielder. I just realized my FC
• 58:44
  West one might be kind of bulled. So anyway, so as we're talking
• 58:46
  about that, a few thoughts that you picked the Broncos the one they so,
• 58:52
  yeah, I got them last. By the way, I'm just gonna
• 58:55
  throw that out there. Hey, a few things on No Seattle. You
• 58:59
  know Seattle's quarterback coach who's been credited with having Gino Smith, who had a
• 59:02
  breakout year like this last year. What's he come back player of the Year.
• 59:06
  I don't know, but he should have been or but and he might
• 59:09
  have been. As my fantasy team it was called Gina Smith MVP. But
• 59:13
  it's my quarterback, so so I got last place. He's the new offensive
• 59:17
  coordinator Tampa Bay. And you think eating and coaching another person to come back
• 59:23
  play of the year. Is that what you're trying to say. I've made
• 59:24
  that prediction before because I think he's a good quarterback coach, I really do.
• 59:30
  But I think that there's too many injuries. There's a lot of who
• 59:36
  plays defense for the rams um I think the offensive line for the Rams is
• 59:39
  very average. I don't know who the running back is, but apparently you
• 59:44
  don't need one in the NFL. And and I think and I think Stafford
• 59:49
  is injury prone. He's a bit snakes He's a bit snake bitten and and
• 59:53
  Cooper cup party. Stafford is injury prone. He is and two is not
• 1:00:00
  two is even We're talking about the NFC. Someone bringing up Matt Stafford's injury.
• 1:00:07
  That's two years years. That's he's the fastest, like twenty thousand years,
• 1:00:10
  fast as thirty, fast as forty, fast as the fifty. I
• 1:00:14
  mean, he's amazing. I mean, you daddy, but he's won one
• 1:00:17
  Super Bowl with a team that was stacked and had zero injuries. That you're
• 1:00:22
  they all miraculously stay hell, they all got hurt, miraculously we're in last
• 1:00:27
  place. Yet happens, dude, after you win one? Well sure,
• 1:00:30
  And I mean I think that they're gonna make a documentary about it one day
• 1:00:32
  too, where Sean McVey was like, you know what I'm doing, that's
• 1:00:38
  love. I'm not. No, I'm not. I'm just saying no,
• 1:00:43
  I'm just saying. I'm just saying. My point is is like mcveigh's like,
• 1:00:45
  hey, I'm done or whatever. I don't know if I want to
• 1:00:47
  do this. And then you know Andy Reid and everyone's like he just won
• 1:00:50
  too quick. And then you got Matt Stafford. He's like, fuck,
• 1:00:52
  I've been here for a while, my wife survived cancer. I don't know
• 1:00:55
  if I want to do this anymore. Cooper Cup's thirty. I don't know
• 1:00:59
  if anyone knows that. I mean, he's oldest ship too. I'm saying
• 1:01:02
  this team is gonna bounce back a little bit more than I think that you
• 1:01:07
  guys are giving credit to. You've got them winning the division. I think
• 1:01:09
  he broke as pecker at one point. Yeah, you know, I I
• 1:01:15
  was like a three right there on his cock. No, and I'll give
• 1:01:21
  I'll give us that credit a little bit. I he had a good run
• 1:01:24
  of seven years played me he had sixteen you know he played in sixteen games.
• 1:01:31
  Um, I know now record wise and oge first overall to two injuries
• 1:01:38
  anyone some of the played for Kenny answering Georgia. I know. It's all
• 1:01:45
  about that shit. You could you could name someone from eighty two and be
• 1:01:49
  like what college. You'd be like, oh, oh boy, he had
• 1:01:53
  a lot of them then, Um, not Hicks. Um, keep talking
• 1:02:00
  and we'll look at that schedule. Um. But anyway, his sketch hit.
• 1:02:04
  But since twenty nineteen, he did that. Last year with the Ramsey
• 1:02:07
  played seventeen games this sean, keep talking. And by the way, in
• 1:02:13
  two thousand and nineteen when he won the Super Bowl and the years before that,
• 1:02:16
  has he played complete seasons? He has. He was hurt early and
• 1:02:21
  then he had a good injury prone quarterback. Dude, That's what I'm trying
• 1:02:22
  to tell you. They've seen that as bulletproof they wanted him. He throws
• 1:02:27
  the fucking yard. He's a good decision maker, he's a good family guy.
• 1:02:30
  Is stupid sho good person is final elbow elbow. Dude, what are
• 1:02:37
  you talking about? But listen, these are this is everything. Now let's
• 1:02:42
  go to twenty twenty one. Let me ankle get back fu fucking guy brained?
• 1:02:47
  Is dick up fucking justin Jefferson Jeffers, Yeah, Jefferson. Ever look
• 1:02:52
  up any fucking person that plays in miss anything. They all have a list
• 1:02:57
  of injuries. He's a time out. That don't mean now but you now
• 1:03:06
  hold on, No, I'm just saying you playing quarterbacks play all the time
• 1:03:09
  hurt because the person behind him is just playing shit. And Baker, I
• 1:03:14
  mean he's been a primary example. Why are you bringing up Baker? We're
• 1:03:16
  talking about Matt Stafford. He has There's a lot of quarterbacks to play hurt,
• 1:03:22
  but they don't mean they're underd percent. I mean it's it's QBR rating
• 1:03:25
  up stupid is actually he was not stupid his QBR rating. I mean,
• 1:03:30
  you're talking those years in Detroit. You're talking forties, fifties, fifties.
• 1:03:35
  He did have some sixties and that's okay, nineteen. Did anyone just hear
• 1:03:37
  what he just said? He just looked up a Q for Detroit. But
• 1:03:44
  he had a Hall of Fame wide receiver played for and he had a Hall
• 1:03:47
  of Fame wide receiver, and Matt Stafford is not going into the Hall of
• 1:03:50
  Fame because he played for the big Tom Brady in the same situation when done
• 1:03:53
  the same thing, I think Harry Sanders, I think Matt staff exactly that
• 1:03:58
  Stafford in the same very sad number were terrible. Yeah, Berry Sanders numbers
• 1:04:05
  were waiting. Listen, we know your love with Matt Stafford. I'm just
• 1:04:08
  saying Matt Stafford records I don't find right there. But what I'm saying right
• 1:04:14
  now, I think as old as he is because he's no spring chicken that
• 1:04:17
  injuries play a part. Cup has already hurt their defense, I said as
• 1:04:21
  Aaron Donald and no one else of relevance. They are on a rebuild and
• 1:04:27
  they will not have a winning record. Mark it down right now, Okay,
• 1:04:31
  I will mark that down. We'll have a whiteboard next week and you
• 1:04:34
  can mark that down. Sorry, that's on wheels, actually board we had
• 1:04:43
  and you slept on. So no, I think that might have been collusion.
• 1:04:47
  But hey, now, also, also, though I'm not talking about
• 1:04:50
  the Seahawks, like I said before, I've got the Zeahawks winning maybe seven
• 1:04:55
  eight, games not gonna be bad, not powerhouses. No, no,
• 1:04:59
  but we all have to same things. Know what you're making enough to be
• 1:05:01
  just getting. And I think the Cards with I think that they're they're hoping
• 1:05:04
  that Kyler Murray's gonna beat Game one. Now, granted, I'm somewhat hesitant
• 1:05:11
  to pick the Cards last over the Rams simply because Kyler Murray comes back.
• 1:05:15
  Maybe, but they don't have a defense either. But I like the coaching
• 1:05:18
  change at airs. Kyler Murray. When he's in the game, you have
• 1:05:24
  a chance to win every single game that he plays in because of his sheer
• 1:05:29
  athletic ability. Even with the ship that plays around him, you have a
• 1:05:33
  chance. I'm trying to distract him from a second Well, no, I
• 1:05:38
  agree, where's that going on? Later, Let's go to the safety balls.
• 1:05:45
  Okay, so we've all we've got, We've got the NFC West.
• 1:05:49
  Now speaking on the forty nine ers though, Okay, I dislike everything around
• 1:05:54
  him, accept the quarterback. Zach is right about the quarterback, but it's
• 1:05:57
  not going to put him in second place because the team is just too loaded.
• 1:06:00
  Party looks like he's going to be ready for Week one. But it's
• 1:06:02
  not only a quarterback situation. It looks like they just don't have a quarterback.
• 1:06:06
  I mean Bronck Purtty. I mean he was living in high there.
• 1:06:09
  He's coming off a injury, and you know how that happens, you know.
• 1:06:13
  But anyway, I'm saying it's coming off an injury, and I'm just
• 1:06:15
  saying, we're doing the West tonight though, aren't we also in the FC
• 1:06:19
  which is also the forty nine ers former quarterbacks. New team is in the
• 1:06:25
  FC West. We shall see. Let's just go Christ hold on, so
• 1:06:29
  we shall see how that goes. Well, let's do it. Are you
• 1:06:31
  guys ready to roll on? O? Shan Marino? Yes? Yeah,
• 1:06:34
  Christ and maybe AFC West. Did he have a last? No? But
• 1:06:39
  I'm Danny. We have the Broncos. You have the Broncos last, Danny,
• 1:06:42
  it was Danny worse Junior. Did he have last? Sean? I
• 1:06:45
  believe I put the Broncos is dead last? Did he have last? Um?
• 1:06:49
  I actually did not have the Broncos last? What's wrong with you?
• 1:06:53
  I have the Raiders last. I have the Raiders too. I don't have
• 1:06:55
  they, dude. They're losing guys, so that comes out. You have
• 1:07:00
  second to last Raiders Broncos. Really you got Chargers. I thought Broncos number
• 1:07:08
  two. Sean McVay, Sean mcvagh again, Sean mcvay's note. I love
• 1:07:17
  you, Sean. You guys got me all worked up on the motherfucker you
• 1:07:23
  know. I just tell you. Yeah, Sean Payton's there, and I
• 1:07:27
  think that's gonna be a big increase. And I think McVay pig. I
• 1:07:30
  think the fucking coach of the Charger sucks. Can't believe he wasn't fired.
• 1:07:34
  And oh no, no, I agree with that. I agree with that
• 1:07:38
  Eckler down down, client. I mean he's on the So right now,
• 1:07:42
  you you and Zach, if I got this right, have the Raiders both
• 1:07:45
  last. Me and Sean have the Broncos. You have the Broncos Sex the
• 1:07:49
  last boys. We're just flipped. You and Zach are exactly saying me and
• 1:07:55
  Sean are the same I have. I have Broncos last, Raiders second to
• 1:08:00
  last. You have Raiders last, flop the same thing. So as everyone
• 1:08:04
  got the Chargers second, he doesn't except him, except I'm talking the last
• 1:08:09
  two teams these people have. Who do you have second to last? Chargers?
• 1:08:15
  Oh? Hang, you think Jimmy g is an upgrade from Derek Carr.
• 1:08:23
  Good fucking luck, bro. And I'll tell that to every fan out
• 1:08:26
  there. That is fucking insane that you would think that that time out well
• 1:08:30
  one play for the forty nine ers, who it doesn't matter who the quarterback
• 1:08:33
  is kind of last. And now I had the same thing. I had
• 1:08:45
  the same thing because now I like Jimmy g as a quarterback. I like
• 1:08:48
  Derek Carr better. I think Derek Carr's more talented too. I think Derek
• 1:08:53
  Carr makes more mistakes than Jimmy. Derek Carr is like Baker. He's never
• 1:08:57
  given the right situation. Zo He's in a ship spot. Dudeh Jacobs is
• 1:09:00
  a good wide receiver. Devanta Adams, you still have there as a wide
• 1:09:03
  receiver. I just want to get out. I just think the most.
• 1:09:08
  I mean, that's the rumor he's trying to leave. He doesn't want to
• 1:09:11
  be Broncos second. No, Yes, Bronco second Chiefs, Broncos Chargers,
• 1:09:15
  Raiders, Charger sec. Dick dude echoes on the downhill. What's his face?
• 1:09:19
  Just signed a huge fucking contract quarterback. I'm also firing Braining Staley a
• 1:09:24
  thin the year, but gonna happen. We all know that it's not because
• 1:09:27
  and I'm telling you this team is this is what's gonna get him fired.
• 1:09:30
  This team is gonna go fucking nine not believing. And I'm just saying the
• 1:09:34
  Broncos probably going seven, eleven and six. You obviously have the Chichiefs,
• 1:09:40
  obviously go twelve to four. Chargers, Chargers, Raiders like thinking Raiders second
• 1:09:47
  is what you're thinking. I could see it. I could see the switch.
• 1:09:50
  I don't think between the charges between the Raiders Chargers. I could see
• 1:09:54
  this one. That's what you're saying, second to third, third to second.
• 1:09:57
  Yeah, yeah, I could see the flip from that ballsy. That'd
• 1:10:00
  be even more picking the Raiders seconds, more ballsy than picking the Broncos second.
• 1:10:04
  Oh, I mean that's literally retired. Sorry you brought up killing more.
• 1:10:09
  I forgot about stupid, forgot about killing MOREL Moore's offensive coordinator. He
• 1:10:13
  should have been fired for some reason. He wasn't, and he's gonna prove
• 1:10:16
  his point. Get fired. He got fired for not allowed back. I
• 1:10:20
  forget what they said. I don't know what's going on. I'm just gonna
• 1:10:24
  tell you tonight, top Now it's Cowboys minding your picks are exactly the same
• 1:10:28
  that. I don't think that's ever happened you. Sure, you guys are
• 1:10:30
  kissing a hugging, all three of them, saying I told you these two
• 1:10:35
  you were weird with Hey, did you change that because you okay? Okay,
• 1:10:44
  so you we're all three the same. We are all three the same
• 1:10:46
  on Chargers, Broncos, Raiders, then your then your brain damage son who
• 1:10:51
  picked Broncos last? Dumb? Yeah there were no way, dude, no
• 1:10:57
  fucking way. I should have the Raiders last, the radios. You have
• 1:11:00
  Bronchos. I mean, I bet my life on it. What do you
• 1:11:02
  think Devantae Adams is gonna throw market and catch it. I can have a
• 1:11:06
  market an, I can have market a label I haven't marked. We we
• 1:11:14
  have them. I've got a big market down so real quick, I do
• 1:11:19
  want to say something going back to the mc west that Rams and nine are
• 1:11:21
  saying like I've already sold that. Hey, Like I said, real quick,
• 1:11:25
  I do want to you know, I will, I will. I
• 1:11:27
  will backtrack a little bit, but all I want to say, it's not
• 1:11:30
  a crazy backtrack. I still think the Rams and Brady and two by two
• 1:11:40
  I mean, we're talking m VP camps all. I'm telling you. I'm
• 1:11:42
  telling you it's like the top two. I just say Rams or nine ers.
• 1:11:45
  That's that's indifferent to me. It's gonna be one of them. I
• 1:11:47
  know that's a cop out, but it's just one of them. I just
• 1:11:49
  say Hawks are third. Oh, it's gonna be one of them, not
• 1:11:53
  the other one. We know that. I just say Hawks the third.
• 1:11:55
  That's the thing that we're disagreeing on. It's Hawks third or Rams third,
• 1:11:58
  And I say it's Hawks. No, I can thinks I can see what
• 1:12:02
  is on at all. Just everybody. Everybody has second to last the Hawks.
• 1:12:09
  I do not second. Sorry, sorry, ever has second last Rams.
• 1:12:14
  I'm nearly Chris Hans the Hawks. That was my point, not second,
• 1:12:16
  second to last Rams. Motherfucker. That's my argument. He's changed his
• 1:12:21
  mind alright now, it's not talk since Sorry, yeah I did. I
• 1:12:25
  kept saying second. But what he was thinking Sean Payton, Sean McVay,
• 1:12:29
  he's like Sean Payton, McVay, Peyton Mcvayat what I'm trying to say,
• 1:12:33
  the second to last all of you guys have the Rams. I'm saying it's
• 1:12:38
  going to be the Hawks, and that is what I will stand my grade.
• 1:12:43
  Can't you bring up what you have? I will. I will take
• 1:12:45
  that to three, like to my grave, Hawks to three. Well,
• 1:12:48
  he made the bet on his life, so better hope that that pans out,
• 1:12:53
  which it does. I don't think that was that though, that because
• 1:12:56
  he's already backtracked. Are you talking about the NFC West. I'm just saying
• 1:13:00
  that, just kidding. You're getting all aunty about Sean McVay and Peyton Peyton
• 1:13:05
  anyway, we got him down. No hunter knows what he thinks about when
• 1:13:11
  they're not tonight sunny trivia. Yeah, ud get after we got those pick
• 1:13:21
  Christ and you've got down, I've got all right, let's move on.
• 1:13:26
  We're gonna move you guys, keep a little trivia and then we'll get to
• 1:13:35
  the end. I almost died, that's all they know. Well, I'll
• 1:13:39
  give you one and then I got to find the other ones. Um,
• 1:13:41
  there's only there's there's only them up. Listen, there's only one team that
• 1:13:45
  has ever won the NFC NAFC Championship game. See little Seahawks. He killed
• 1:13:53
  it. The only team that's been in the NFC in the AFC. Really,
• 1:13:57
  Yeah, they started in the NFC, the FC and then moved back
• 1:14:00
  to the NFC. Kenny, what you got that I would not have exactly?
• 1:14:04
  Next time? Just don't you know, don't go too well. Let's
• 1:14:08
  give everyone a chance here. Sorry, I'm sorry that I know may say
• 1:14:13
  football. Who has the amounts rushing touchdowns? Jesus, you're talking about rushing
• 1:14:17
  touchdowns all time? Peterson, you folded it up. It was a paper
• 1:14:23
  you fold different one different one? Would it be Jim Brown? Yeah?
• 1:14:29
  Uh? Is it um Texas running back? You guys keep doing anything?
• 1:14:35
  What about the guy from from was it Eric Dickerson? Maybe from No,
• 1:14:41
  no, no, no Dickerson back? What was that? Was probably probably
• 1:14:53
  coming? He had it? Would Ricky Williams. I thought Ricky Williams did
• 1:14:59
  have it at one time? Have Ricky Williams? So what was it?
• 1:15:03
  Remind me the question again, repeat questions, who's got the most UNC double
• 1:15:06
  a touchdown time? Running back? Yeah, I'll give you that. Oh
• 1:15:13
  it was just all time touchdowns episodes rushing. Yeah, but I'll give you
• 1:15:17
  it's a running back. Yeah. What I said, is it from a
• 1:15:20
  from Texas? But there was Ricky Williams. Now, I wouldn't Burry in
• 1:15:27
  a year. I'm so sorry? Did I not? I fucked that trivia?
• 1:15:30
  Up? Hey? I did? I did? What? Sorr?
• 1:15:32
  Answer? What's some must rushing touchdowns in a year by a running back?
• 1:15:38
  That fifty four might be Barry Sanders. It's base hands? Okay? In
• 1:15:42
  a year? How many? Was it? Thirty seven? Sorry about okay?
• 1:15:48
  Say it right, let's get this. Sorry, sorry, I was
• 1:15:53
  so confused looking for the third one. I tried, I got, I
• 1:15:56
  got confused all this it has got fluster. He's flower, he's moist anyway.
• 1:16:14
  And one team is the team that lost the most in the Super Bowl
• 1:16:19
  NFL error and it's uh. Two teams are tied the Bills, Bills in
• 1:16:26
  the Night, Bills in the Viking. Wrong now saying the question again?
• 1:16:30
  Who lost the most? He's like, Bill's Vikings. I understood the question.
• 1:16:33
  And when he's wrong, he's like, he didn't say super Bowl?
• 1:16:36
  So what was Who's lost most in the super Bowl? Okay? And who's
• 1:16:40
  lost the most games in the Super Bowl in history? Two teams tied?
• 1:16:45
  They both lost four. Oh you know this one's really interesting because I read
• 1:16:48
  it. I thought the Bills would be one, because are you serious?
• 1:16:51
  How many of the Patriots at bowls They lost championship games to get the Super
• 1:16:58
  Bowl? Patriots might be one actually, because they lost some in the early
• 1:17:01
  or they lost one and then they lost against par Sales lost against that was
• 1:17:08
  the Bledsoe year. They lost like two against Eli. Yeah, and then
• 1:17:13
  did they lose another one though that only Yeah, that would be fine,
• 1:17:15
  that would be fine against he lost against Big Dick Foles. He did,
• 1:17:19
  Yeah, that would one and well they're tied. You got another one though.
• 1:17:25
  There's this team though, is crazy when you think about it, and
• 1:17:28
  like, was it Eagles? Yeah, calm down there, Eagles. This
• 1:17:31
  team is actually funny. And I will give you a actually, go ahead,
• 1:17:34
  go ahead the clowns all you guys did. I won't give me a
• 1:17:36
  hints unless you want one. I was thinking that of the Colts, but
• 1:17:40
  I could be wrong, So okay, I'll give you this quarterback is actually
• 1:17:45
  regarded as maybe one of the best of all time, easily top five,
• 1:17:47
  top ten. We forget about his younger years. Denver. Yeah, oh
• 1:17:54
  Delver. I mean he lost a lot. He lost like two there,
• 1:17:57
  and then that team lost like a couple other ones. Call and then Peyton
• 1:18:00
  lost one as well. What was the which was what was the running back?
• 1:18:06
  Pit was so good? I want to say it's Terrell Davis. Terrell,
• 1:18:10
  I would say Jackson Troll Davis is what finally put Elway over that hump
• 1:18:15
  back to at the end. Yes, which is cool about the packers because
• 1:18:19
  they went together. Whatever it was, either one or the other was going
• 1:18:23
  to be back to back. I still blame. That would have been far
• 1:18:27
  I still blame. I still blame would have never known that because they didn't
• 1:18:32
  have the name. All right, Zach, thanks for your segment on weird
• 1:18:35
  trivia that you can't say right, But next time he was bad. Oh
• 1:18:45
  NFC one, no trivia, everybody. I'm sorry that I'm the only one
• 1:18:49
  that started this is no no, Well, you need to set the scene.
• 1:18:57
  It was a boat to Zach was scared. Started me and my me
• 1:19:01
  and my dad got He's like, it's duck hunting its new land is everything
• 1:19:04
  though, no carpet hot a shit though, that's what happens in the sudden
• 1:19:08
  light. It was not. It was perfectly fall. It had rhino it's
• 1:19:14
  got rhinoling. It's rhino lining sprayed all over the boat and then painted camera
• 1:19:18
  flash no, from the factory, they spray rhino yeahstead of putting the carpet.
• 1:19:24
  Yeah. But anyways, we didn't catch any fish. And then the
• 1:19:28
  next day I almost died because I went to work in a hot factory.
• 1:19:31
  Boy he really builds up. I mean he talks for hours about bullshit that
• 1:19:35
  doesn't matter, and then it comes into the outdoorman. Yeah, we didn't
• 1:19:39
  catch ship and I about died And that was our outdoor minute. Thanks everybody,
• 1:19:43
  We'll see you next week. Oh yeah, and I forgot some jackass
• 1:19:46
  sucked a ski lower line up I did, Yeah, and into the sea
• 1:19:50
  do I did? Why because some fatty couldn't get up on his skis.
• 1:19:57
  No, it wasn't his fault. It wasn't. It was my fault on
• 1:20:01
  the ski. Yeah, because we were staking from you. Yeah, it
• 1:20:04
  was saching you because I told Hannah and the way we were doing that,
• 1:20:09
  the wind was blowing me into bank and you all were up there towards the
• 1:20:13
  bank where you could stand up and get everything switched. So that's not Kody.
• 1:20:15
  I was like, I can't ski, It's impossible. I've tried it
• 1:20:17
  before. I tried to ski on the fucking mountain. I can't do it.
• 1:20:19
  It's I'm a board guy on I'm telling you, I would take all
• 1:20:24
  and my legs. I would take all your legs automatically what you should have
• 1:20:29
  done to x your skis like this with the rope under them and x them.
• 1:20:33
  But as soon as I gagged at your feet would go straight I mean
• 1:20:39
  Simone Biles or Boils or whatever her name is. Yeah, she could not
• 1:20:44
  do the splits as good as you done when we were taking all the time.
• 1:20:46
  I mean, your feet would go straight out. I can't. I
• 1:20:48
  can't do that shit. I can't do it. I said that. I
• 1:20:50
  told Kodie. I was like, you tied him up. I was telling
• 1:20:53
  Hannah. Hunter was there. I was like, good luck. Hunter was
• 1:20:56
  trying to try it. I was like, good luck, there's no way
• 1:20:58
  I can possibly do this. Yeah. Yea. The outdoor minute we went,
• 1:21:02
  we went noodling, which is way too late in the season to noodle.
• 1:21:08
  We tried it anyway. I actually found one wildlife. Yeah, I
• 1:21:12
  found one fish in a hole before every sean heard him thump twice biting.
• 1:21:16
  Yeah, I heard him and before we could get Here's exactly how this played
• 1:21:23
  out. So what he did he put it in there, and he was
• 1:21:25
  like, oh, you just bit. He's like something, bitch, here's
• 1:21:28
  one in there. He's like, better put your hand. Me trying as
• 1:21:30
  fast as I can to put a glove on in my right hand. I
• 1:21:32
  was like, oh, I can't live without my right hand, and so
• 1:21:35
  I put it on my left hand. I was like, I can live
• 1:21:38
  without this one. So I put it back on my left hand. And
• 1:21:41
  then I was like, are you you swear to God this isn't a snapping
• 1:21:43
  turtle. You fucking know. Yeah, he's like a fish, for sure?
• 1:21:46
  And you tell me. It's like, are you for sure? And
• 1:21:48
  he was like, it's a fish. And by the time I put my
• 1:21:50
  hand and he's like, so bit should going. I couldn't find it.
• 1:21:54
  We couldn't find it with the stick. We went under the rock. It
• 1:21:57
  had to went out. Definitely, not a right hand I could sacrifice so
• 1:22:00
  left. You don't mean to a snapping turtle, you know what I mean.
• 1:22:02
  It's like, now you've been there once, you still haven't been bit.
• 1:22:05
  We need to go earlier in the year where you can get bit.
• 1:22:08
  But you, I mean, you were a little hesitant. I could tell
• 1:22:14
  you were a little apprehensive. I was really, I was just like him.
• 1:22:15
  We were right there. He kept looking at me in my eyes.
• 1:22:19
  He's like, hey, are you sure to fit? Probably promise. The
• 1:22:27
  whole time I'm running around the backside. Now, he's like, come on,
• 1:22:30
  give me a little bit of the backside of the rocks, looking for
• 1:22:32
  any outlet that it could have got out over the GoPro practically, yeah,
• 1:22:38
  go propro practically. He's like, it's so cold back here. What are
• 1:22:45
  you guys doing up there? He's like, it's cool. I don't feel
• 1:22:46
  shit back here. That was you. That's because we were checking for rocks.
• 1:22:53
  Yeah, me and Crest, and we were in the hunt. We
• 1:22:56
  were in the trenches. Bro, I'm technically. Water was nice. They
• 1:23:04
  were talking about gloves. You had gloves on and the camera and you're like
• 1:23:08
  cold out here. You lost your gloves. The water was nine. You
• 1:23:14
  lost. It's way too So I'm ready for next year though. We're not
• 1:23:18
  gonna fuck her. We're going the first of June. We're going into May.
• 1:23:24
  It's a must. Okay, I'm okay with that. I don't know.
• 1:23:27
  I'm just saying words. I'm just I'm just saying we wait every year
• 1:23:30
  and try to go with the end of all right, anything else on that
• 1:23:41
  door. No, we next playing fishing tournaments and I have nothing coming up
• 1:23:45
  toil because it's too hot for the fish to even move. No, they
• 1:23:49
  just they don't let they don't let you have tournaments because I mean, you
• 1:23:53
  gotta think about this. You catch a fish, you put it in the
• 1:23:55
  live wheel. Most boats have either gray or black carpet or dark cold carpet.
• 1:24:00
  You're gonna bake the fish in the live Well, there's no way to.
• 1:24:02
  I mean even if you add ice in the morning, by noon that's
• 1:24:06
  all gone and the water's warmed up. I mean you can't. You can't
• 1:24:10
  catch a fish in twenty five foot of water, bring him up, put
• 1:24:13
  him in a boat, and have him bake in the sun all day,
• 1:24:15
  right on the surface where it's I mean, what was that hunter that just
• 1:24:17
  pulled in? Well, I I would I would agree with that. So
• 1:24:24
  when do you kind of start to kick off, like Septis September. I
• 1:24:28
  mean they're having some night tournaments, but yeah, it's going on. Yeah,
• 1:24:31
  oh do they But you don't really have light, you don't have the
• 1:24:38
  life. No, No, I don't worry about the lights for fishing.
• 1:24:40
  You can kill them by that. No, No, for bow fishing.
• 1:24:45
  Yeah, for the boat. Just for the Oh, there's where the lights.
• 1:24:49
  But don't you have to be more lights than just what you have because
• 1:24:53
  you know you are in the front. Yeah, you have a you have
• 1:24:55
  an anchor light which is the back wife when and you have a red and
• 1:24:58
  green for the front. That's all you have to Okay, I thought you
• 1:25:00
  needed No, I thought you need like a biggest spot. No, it's
• 1:25:02
  actually pretty dangerous. Actually, they actually should require more lights on the Actually,
• 1:25:06
  you know, you know where the danger part comes from is the big
• 1:25:11
  yachts and the sailboats. The sailboats when you're anchored up out in the lake
• 1:25:16
  only have to have a mask light up on the mast of the sail one
• 1:25:20
  light light that one white light and they always put it on a sailboat up
• 1:25:27
  on the mask which is third airplanes thirty yeah, exactly, thirty or forty
• 1:25:30
  foot. So when you're driving down the lake and you see this white light
• 1:25:33
  and it's out in front of the front, you well, you think it's
• 1:25:35
  plumb up there on the bank because it's so high in the air it matches
• 1:25:39
  all the other lights. It's way up on the bank and all of a
• 1:25:42
  sudden there's a fucking sailboat twelve foot in front of you and you're trying to
• 1:25:45
  dodge it, or the big yachts at the point, the big yachts is
• 1:25:46
  three stories. They have to have a light on it. Well, their
• 1:25:49
  white light is always up on the very tip top of the boat. But
• 1:25:53
  now generally, though most I just imagine everything is Jaws and as a Jaws
• 1:26:00
  coming, yeah, and we're gonna need a bigger boat. But yeah,
• 1:26:02
  I mean the cell boats and a lot of the big yachts that go out
• 1:26:05
  there and anchor up all night and have the orgies or whatever they do out
• 1:26:08
  there. There's orgy boats. I'm just saying, there's nothing to do in
• 1:26:11
  the third job, Sean. I mean, it's getting down to eighty seven
• 1:26:16
  degrees at night and one hundred and twelve in the day, and you're gonna
• 1:26:20
  go out there and set in this big yacht. I mean, what are
• 1:26:24
  you doing besides just drinking and whoring around? I mean, seriously, your
• 1:26:28
  old pontoon. But I'm serious. So they have the inspector not an ula
• 1:26:34
  though, because the core just letting y'all know, we're not getting started allow
• 1:26:41
  And by the way, you said Ulaga. By the way, it was
• 1:26:44
  down like three foot lower than about fourth pays. Yeah, that way after
• 1:26:48
  that debacle they had with its up higher last year. I'm just not much.
• 1:26:54
  I'm just saying the debacle. They remember the rocks nineteen was at nineteen,
• 1:26:59
  no big flo Remember rocks we were at last year. Yeah, those
• 1:27:03
  were all exposed. Okay, they were completely dry light. I mean the
• 1:27:08
  lake was Wait, you could see the water level. I mean it was
• 1:27:10
  like six or eight foot. I can tell it's lower, but I'm saying
• 1:27:13
  it was way lower. It was dramatically Yeah, it was dramatically lower.
• 1:27:16
  But compared to what they used to keep it at. Into say, yeah,
• 1:27:19
  it's it's even yeah, even lower. Because even we didn't go into
• 1:27:23
  last year, we should have just been there. Yeah, I'm telling the
• 1:27:29
  old Allowe right now. With all the foundations and the old cellers and stuff.
• 1:27:32
  As low as the water was, a lot of them would the sellers
• 1:27:35
  would have still had water where we could have went down in the cellars,
• 1:27:38
  but you could have seen them better. You wouldn't have had to have them
• 1:27:40
  marked to go find them. Yeah, that's what I was saying I thought
• 1:27:44
  about afterwards. I was like, ship should went the allowey alright, Cody.
• 1:27:47
  Cody was telling me they would have a better fishing up by the bridge
• 1:27:49
  anyways. So all right, giving it's now your music starts, you know
• 1:28:01
  timeson game. Okay. So one thing I've always noticed about that game is
• 1:28:13
  there seems to be always a field problem. It was light lights, Yeah,
• 1:28:15
  I mean there's always an issue. It's like last night, the lights
• 1:28:18
  was one of them. But then sometimes it's the turf. And I heard
• 1:28:21
  someone bitching about the turf. I didn't catch it on the radio. Who
• 1:28:25
  it was, Um Kellen Mond and I we tweeted about this that that that
• 1:28:33
  that that UCLA quarterback Thompson Doorl. Thompson's for the Browns, his second string
• 1:28:41
  automatically. Kellen Mond's been in the league way too long to look that bad.
• 1:28:45
  He's never been good. They draft him the third round out of A
• 1:28:47
  and M at A and M. He wasn't that the king at the Vikings
• 1:28:50
  and he's just not that good. And and it's amazing to see how many
• 1:28:55
  quarterbacks are still in this league that just aren't that good. Oh they've done
• 1:28:59
  that for yous. But the guy from UCLA done. I don't know how
• 1:29:01
  many times you look. You would look and you turn around and you'd see
• 1:29:04
  Trevor, Trevor siemens us, Dorian Thompson. That's the that's the rookie.
• 1:29:12
  He he is going to be the second strength of the Browns. Didn't he
• 1:29:14
  play DeMarcus first saying the national anthem? No? Dorian? Wasn't he in
• 1:29:18
  the UCLA No, you're thinking it is that he played US? Didn't he
• 1:29:26
  know? He's a rookie. He played UCLA for like four years? Isn't
• 1:29:30
  Thomas? Is that the Thomas Richardson or whatever it had on the back of
• 1:29:32
  his jersey, Dorian Thompson, he was the quarterback. I'm thinking I'm thinking
• 1:29:38
  Bethel second half. Okay, Yeah, Bethel Thompson played in the USFL or
• 1:29:41
  the just recently. So uh, he was a UCLA quarter But for what
• 1:29:47
  one stamin I said um, trying to not say um um um. What
• 1:29:53
  Also, basketball briest contract per season was signed today or announced Davis was Anthony
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  Davis hundred and eighty six million for three years. How are you paying the
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  rest of the players? Well, he's only three years, so I'm sure
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  there's like all these player officers, how they spin it around. That's why
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  it's a highest paid But is it just me? Or is that guy not
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  impressive anymore? Either? Basketball? If your kid has got at hey,
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  here's a program alert right here. If your kids got talent, put them
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  in basketball, get that max contract. No, I mean it would just
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  be done. People are getting the basketball players are getting paid. You could
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  be very average their money six to eighth man off the bench and you're making
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  ten million a year. You can't even get that running backs that are starters
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  that get found there. The money off of merchandising, I don't know,
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  but it's nuts. Remember they're bank roll in the w NBA. That is
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  good, horrible well, and you also think they're about to be in their
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  playoffs but you don't even know. But you also is not a hard cap
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  at basketball. That plus plus the bank roll in the Chinese Are they back
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  to that now? I thought they were? No, who knows? That
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  got real ugly nasty. So anyway, one thing Zach Zach brought up Sean
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  Payton. He uh talked a lot of Sean Payton trashed Nathaniel Hackett this last
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  week about how shitty that coaching job and everything at Denver was Um. It
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  makes for a good game four week five contests between the Lakers or not Lakers.
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  I think of Lakers between the Broncos and uh bear and what in the
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  Broncos? Who am I thinking of? I'm drawn? And the Jets obviously,
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  so they come out because hackets back to the Jets. Yeah, he's
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  off. It's a coordinator with Aaron Rodgers, and Aaron Rodgers ran his mouth
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  a little bit back today. I don't talking about coach. Hey, I
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  think it's great. Blah blah cares. This was big news this week and
• 1:31:48
  it bored the shit on me because in reality, I think they're both right.
• 1:31:53
  One thing Aaron Rodgers should have done probably talked shit on a coach publicly
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  that still coaches. It's tacky, but Sean Payton has been known to be
• 1:32:00
  tacky before the guy runs his mouth. He was to spend it for a
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  year for having a bounty for his players to do certain things, certain players
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  to take him out. So for everyone to be surprised about that, um,
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  seems odd. Sean just brought up a good point there on the computer
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  about the Broncos. A lot of rookies right now, especially receivers. Is
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  a Flowers, who I joke about because he's my pick. But Marvin Mems
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  for the Broncos has been talked about really heavy about being a big playmaker.
• 1:32:28
  I think he's the only damn wide receiver left because the other two just got
• 1:32:30
  injured. Well that looksn't even make it even better. But that don't mean
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  the Bronchos are going to be in second place. I don't know I get
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  that, but anyway, that's all I have, guys, Um anything closing?
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  Man? I almost died? Yeah, anybody here that too hot?
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  I caught the poisoning then went to work. It almost died. He got
• 1:32:54
  the fat poisoning. Yeah, no, no, I caught the heat poisoning.
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  Thank you everybody for listening us some of us hunt Please, thank you
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  everybody for listening. I'll try to say um much less next week. Um.
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  By the way, uh um, we're we're we're having a good podcast.
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  Um. That's why I said. I thought, for the most part
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  in the beginning, I did much better. But as I start to get
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  to the end, it's like you anyway, next week, next week,
• 1:33:30
  here's what we're gonna talk about next week. So preview for next week fans
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  we've got we're gonna talk about the SEC next week and also we'll finish up
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  on the NFL, NFL East or NFC East and the AFC East. Um
• 1:33:46
  gonna be probably the two most interesting conferences, especially the AFC East. I
• 1:33:54
  want to be real interested to see if anybody's got the same picks throughout.
• 1:33:57
  I doubt it's gonna be. I know, wait on you, so,
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  I'm kind of given the prere That was it? That was it. Everybody's
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  taking about eye everybody, everybody