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Best of full interview: Kehlani Speaks On New Album, Motherhood, Mental Health, Fitness Journey + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Quake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning, everybody in stej n V jess hilarious,
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  Speaker 2: Charlamage the guy.
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  Speaker 1: We are the breakfast Club. We got a special guest
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  Speaker 1: in the building.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Ho are you feeling?
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  Speaker 4: I feel good. I think the last time we did this,
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  Speaker 4: we might have been on a Zoom call. So it's
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  Speaker 4: cool to be in person.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it was zoom.
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  Speaker 5: How's your spirit? How's your energy?
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  Speaker 4: I'm super good. I'm like, probably the best.
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  Speaker 3: I've ever been.
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  Speaker 1: Amazing, and why is that?
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  Speaker 4: I think just life is really cool. I think I
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  Speaker 4: made something I'm stoked about. My fans are stoked. I
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  Speaker 4: got to do all these cool signings and see all
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  Speaker 4: of them in person, and just like be back in
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  Speaker 4: the swing of things.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm good, I said. They say you're a gym wrap.
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  Speaker 2: They said you up at six o'clock this morning in
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  Speaker 2: the gym. They say every morning.
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  Speaker 4: They might have lied about this morning. I was dead
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  Speaker 4: sleep this morning. But yeah, I'm up. I'm always about
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  Speaker 4: my fitness stuff. I'm super healthy and the healthiest I've
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  Speaker 4: also ever been.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, I've been watching videos of you all weekend
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  Speaker 5: in New York and like you know, a lot of
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  Speaker 5: people have been coming to your signings and you.
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  Speaker 1: Pop up crazy, make you feel getting that.
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  Speaker 5: Type of love.
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  Speaker 4: It's been cool. I mean, I've been doing this for
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  Speaker 4: so long, and I've been doing signings for so long,
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  Speaker 4: and at some point, like my brain tricked me into
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  Speaker 4: being like, you know, they're probably gonna lessen over the years,
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  Speaker 4: because it's like, you know, we've seen her a bunch,
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  Speaker 4: she dropped a bunch of projects. I'm on project seven
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  Speaker 4: or six on project six? Is it seven? Seven?
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  Speaker 6: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: I was right, see so much music. I forgot that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I didn't expect it to be getting bigger.
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  Speaker 4: So they're actually the craziest signings I've ever had so far,
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  Speaker 4: because it's growing, and that's you know, that's all you
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  Speaker 4: can pray for.
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  Speaker 5: I will say, you know, listening to your new album
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  Speaker 5: and just seeing you over the last few months several
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  Speaker 5: months talking like there's a confidence in a sense of
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  Speaker 5: self that you have now that you didn't have years ago.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, Why is that?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's been a long mental health journey.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's been a lot of contributing factors, new motherhood,
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  Speaker 4: different angles of like publicly being publicly aligned with certain
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  Speaker 4: things are publicly misaligned. They're just like not stepping into myself.
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  Speaker 4: I'm twenty nine, I'll be thirty next year. Like I'm
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  Speaker 4: just I'm growing up in a real way, so like
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  Speaker 4: I know how to prioritize and take care of myself differently.
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  Speaker 3: Now, So why did you name the album Crash?
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  Speaker 4: So essentially, a crash is the height and the peak
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  Speaker 4: of a moment. It isn't like the anxiety that comes before,
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  Speaker 4: and it isn't like the overthinking that comes after. It's
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  Speaker 4: just this like, excuse me, cluster fuck. It's just this
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  Speaker 4: this thing that happens. And I knew this album wasn't
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  Speaker 4: gonna make sense to most people. I knew that it
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  Speaker 4: would be something that you either loved or that you hated,
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  Speaker 4: and that kind of just is a crash, And that's
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  Speaker 4: kind of been The reception is some people hate this,
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  Speaker 4: some people love this, and people think it's my worst,
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  Speaker 4: and some people think it's my best. And I think
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  Speaker 4: that's really cool.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little bit of everything.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a crash. It's really a.
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  Speaker 1: Cool everything with that, what you wanted to do.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I didn't start wanting to do that it
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  Speaker 4: started as myself titled and I went on this mission
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  Speaker 4: to like make finally make the Kailani album because I
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  Speaker 4: haven't done that yet. And we started in like going
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  Speaker 4: to all these different cities and we got all these
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  Speaker 4: airbnbs in different places, and it just kind of grew
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  Speaker 4: into this thing that resembled I feel like me as
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  Speaker 4: a person. I feel like I've always been kind of
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  Speaker 4: this thing that doesn't make sense to everyone. They can't
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  Speaker 4: figure out, like who I am, what I am, what
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  Speaker 4: my story is, how it's been all of these things
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  Speaker 4: like can't figure me out and whatever kind of way
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  Speaker 4: how I look versus how what kind of music I make,
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  Speaker 4: how I sound? And once it started taking its own life,
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  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, okay, it's just me as an album.
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  Speaker 2: So what is the self titled Kilania album supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be like? Because you said it was supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: a Kilania album, what was that supposed to.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that album, to me, is more rooted in the
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  Speaker 4: core things that shaped why I sing. I feel like
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  Speaker 4: the Kilani album will be much more referencing like my
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  Speaker 4: actual core musical references. It'll probably be a lot more
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  Speaker 4: R and B. But this album really reflected all the
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  Speaker 4: things that I listened to, like that I grew up
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  Speaker 4: listening to, but didn't necessarily shape my identity as an artist,
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  Speaker 4: but reflect like, you know, worldly where I'm at.
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  Speaker 3: Basically we're still getting kaylaning out.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, that'll probably be my next album probably. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Lose My Wife as such a toxic record. It is
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  Speaker 5: so toxic. Why would you make those choices and decisions
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  Speaker 5: knowing that it could cost you your wife?
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  Speaker 4: Oh? You know, it's not a true story. I just
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  Speaker 4: wanted to so in my head, Crash is the story
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  Speaker 4: of this anti hero version of myself that goes to
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  Speaker 4: Vegas and has this crazy run in Vegas and ends
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  Speaker 4: with that lament of like damn. I've like, oh, this
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  Speaker 4: is crashed instantly, and it's almost like the come down
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  Speaker 4: song of like oh, these are the decisions that I've made,
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  Speaker 4: and like this is what happens. So it's more of
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  Speaker 4: like a sonic story and an ending to the story
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  Speaker 4: than a true story that I needed to smack on there.
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  Speaker 4: It kind of feels like the Hungover song kind of
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  Speaker 4: feels like the next day you're.
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  Speaker 6: Like, oh shit, this is your shadow side exactly.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, when you were in the studio. Writing these songs,
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  Speaker 5: you were like, I'm gonna let my shadow side.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, you know, there is. There's been so
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  Speaker 4: many toxic so it really has. There really has, And
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  Speaker 4: I feel like it's they are moments that people don't
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  Speaker 4: people maybe want to say in their head and been
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  Speaker 4: like I've had that perspective, or I've gone through that,
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  Speaker 4: or I've wanted to say that, and like I would
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  Speaker 4: never say it out loud and to me. After I
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  Speaker 4: wrote that verse, I was like, this is kind of
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  Speaker 4: like stingy and it is kind of harsh. But some
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  Speaker 4: people feel like that.
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  Speaker 5: But when I hear songs like after Hours or like
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  Speaker 5: Better than Not or Tears, it does feel like you're
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  Speaker 5: longing for a stable relationship, does it a little bit?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean I think everybody wants love, everybody wants
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  Speaker 4: stable love, and we all just have different journeys to it.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, how has motherhood been?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, it's the best journey. It's the best. She's five.
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  Speaker 4: I can't believe it. Yeah, And that's different. I got
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  Speaker 4: a third thing. I'm literally like, I'll make the day
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  Speaker 4: seem so fun. I'm like, we're going with the aquarium
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  Speaker 4: and we're going here, we're going here, and then she's like,
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  Speaker 4: no kind of I just want to stay in the
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  Speaker 4: house and play. I'm like, jeez, what are we gonna do.
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  Speaker 4: The other day took her to the park and she
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  Speaker 4: was like, I'm just letting you guys know, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: playing with any of those kids. And I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I respect it, but maybe we should try. And she
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  Speaker 4: made some friends, and she's in school, so like she
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  Speaker 4: is friends, she.
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  Speaker 5: Still got musical interest. I heard you say one time
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  Speaker 5: she had some.
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  Speaker 4: She's on the album she's on Deep. She actually sounds
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  Speaker 4: so good that you can't really tell that it's her
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  Speaker 4: except for her tone is obviously sounds a lot younger
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  Speaker 4: than mine.
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  Speaker 3: But she's singing her asshole.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want her in the industry.
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  Speaker 4: I want her to do whatever she wants to do.
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  Speaker 4: If that means industry, sure, If that means she wants
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  Speaker 4: my help, sure. If that means she doesn't want my help, sure.
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  Speaker 4: If that means she wants to be a rein surgeon
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  Speaker 4: or a rocket scientist, let's do that. It's her world.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Is the industry good for kids? I mean, you're somebody
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  Speaker 5: who came in the industry, young.
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  Speaker 4: I think that compared like, there's two different There's there's
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  Speaker 4: pros and cons on both sides. One, I didn't have
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  Speaker 4: access to the proper like mental wellness type of regimen
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  Speaker 4: or care to have grown up in it the way
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  Speaker 4: that I did. And we're seeing the effects of people
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  Speaker 4: who you know, adults now and all these stories are
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  Speaker 4: coming out about them being like child stars are coming
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  Speaker 4: out young. And on the flip side, I feel like
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  Speaker 4: people now have access to that. But there's it's also
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  Speaker 4: a different demon fame now is completely different. It's why
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  Speaker 4: I don't really post my daughter.
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
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  Speaker 4: There's too many creeps. I don't ever hear it ever
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  Speaker 4: look back and be like, I actually didn't consent to
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  Speaker 4: any of this. I didn't give any permission. We already
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  Speaker 4: get embarrassed when our parents play home videos for our
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  Speaker 4: friends when they come over, Like if I'm just subjecting
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  Speaker 4: my child to her home video, her freaking growing up
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  Speaker 4: home videos being widely known all over the internet, and
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  Speaker 4: she grows up one day and it's like I didn't
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  Speaker 4: get to tell you if I wanted that or not.
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  Speaker 4: You know, that's not me as a parent.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, any more babies, I would.
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  Speaker 4: Love to have more babies. Whatever God wants to.
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  Speaker 3: Bless me with, I receive.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, can we talk about the record? What I want?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I want a bitch that look better than me, pussy get.
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  Speaker 4: You reading it so serious?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah? What I want?
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  Speaker 5: So excited to read on that record, it seems like
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  Speaker 5: you're torn between wanting to be spoiled but also feeling
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  Speaker 5: comfortable being the one who spoils.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I'm definitely like I fluctuate. Absolutely. I think
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  Speaker 4: I'm more of a giver than a receiver of like spoiling.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's just my nature. But I it's just
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  Speaker 4: a classic song about naming all the things that I want.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think any of them are even cohesive. I
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  Speaker 4: think they're just like, here's a list of all the
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  Speaker 4: all my dream things that I want.
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  Speaker 5: If you having a while weekend in Vegas, why would
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  Speaker 5: you lie to a woman like that? Why would you
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  Speaker 5: make her feel.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't that what you do in Vegas?
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  Speaker 4: Doesn't Vegas make you me? No?
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  Speaker 6: Not like that? But I'm saying doesn't.
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  Speaker 4: It's Vegas, not like some adult Disneyland, like all your
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  Speaker 4: vices and you don't.
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  Speaker 6: Talk about it. Actually, actually, I have a.
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  Speaker 4: Tiny residency in Vegas. Thank you, I have a show,
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. I have a show at the end of
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  Speaker 4: next month and in August. That's what I do in Vegas.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because even on the song Vegas maybe I'm tripping,
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  Speaker 5: it didn't sound like you was actually in Vegas.
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  Speaker 6: You just said what we do is like Vegas exactly.
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  Speaker 4: The only I made a couple of songs. Actually I
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  Speaker 4: made part of what I Want in Vegas. I made
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  Speaker 4: part of SUSI on Vegas. I mean actually I made
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  Speaker 4: most of SUSI on Vegas, and a part of Groove
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  Speaker 4: Theory in Vegas. But the song Vegas I made in
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  Speaker 4: Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, and then on my go to Vegas the fall
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  Speaker 7: in love like they go to create had fun, you know, to.
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  Speaker 6: The person who said, I'm lying going on, we don't know.
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  Speaker 5: The record Sushi a sushi doesn't mean, isn't.
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  Speaker 3: That's fantasy sushia.
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  Speaker 6: Sushi and that's dirty yeah, dirty girl. Yeah, there we
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  Speaker 6: go biling Is that what the record?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Basically I mean Young Miko's versus Crazy if it's translated,
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  Speaker 4: and Jill Scott is free, Auntie Max Extreme is the
• 10:04
  Speaker 4: freak Lord. Honestly, the original freak, so I had to
• 10:08
  Speaker 4: tap her in. Yeah, yeah, she that was an honor.
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  Speaker 4: I noticed that she don't have a lot of features. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: was that intentional? No, I tried to get more features.
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  Speaker 4: There was a couple of things that were going on,
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  Speaker 4: different time things and not necessarily being aligned at the time,
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  Speaker 4: different people not aligning with me, and just things not
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  Speaker 4: making sense. But the ones that did stick around for
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  Speaker 4: me and really you know, held me down. I'm super
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  Speaker 4: appreciative and they killed it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Now after I was were you surprised of how fast
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  Speaker 2: I took off, especially on social media?
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  Speaker 3: Crazy?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like a huge dance.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I honestly have to give a lot of credit to
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  Speaker 4: Darius Hickman, who's an incredible dancer, and he was in
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  Speaker 4: the After Hours video and he left rehearsal for one
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  Speaker 4: of the for the After Hours video, I went home
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  Speaker 4: and just like made this little dance on TikTok and
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  Speaker 4: it just like it took it on one. I think
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  Speaker 4: it's such a testament to how powerful like dance is
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  Speaker 4: and how like dancers are, like DJ's like they can
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  Speaker 4: really break songs like it's I give him all the
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  Speaker 4: credit for that because it's crazy did you.
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  Speaker 1: Know who Loomi d was beforehand?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, of course you disrespect her like that, like of
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  Speaker 8: course the one song you know, maybe people she have one?
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  Speaker 1: I think she had one.
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  Speaker 5: Now. You also mentioned that this album isn't rooted in
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  Speaker 5: your personal experiences, are relationships like your previous albums? Are
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  Speaker 5: you saying that just so you don't get in trouble
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  Speaker 5: and people be like, damn, Colode's so toxic?
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  Speaker 8: No?
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  Speaker 4: I think I think anytime a running I want you
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  Speaker 4: so bad, so bad. You know what's so funny is
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  Speaker 4: I think people would be surprised if they sat down
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  Speaker 4: with me to to actually ask and inquire about my experiences,
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  Speaker 4: because they might look one way, but it's so many
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  Speaker 4: different scenarios that lead to while my love life looks
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  Speaker 4: the way it does, and so many that you would
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  Speaker 4: be surprised. Who what's happened with this? And what's happened
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  Speaker 4: with this? And it's just it's my business and it's
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  Speaker 4: my world, and I'm pretty much in good standing with
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  Speaker 4: anybody ever, So like running through these chicks is extreme.
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  Speaker 4: You do really want me to be a pimp, and
• 12:03
  Speaker 4: you know, maybe maybe I'll just start embodying it. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: maybe I just accept it.
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  Speaker 2: Does that people in your in your in your regular business,
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  Speaker 2: not just your music business all the time.
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  Speaker 4: No, I think it came. It comes with the territory.
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  Speaker 4: I think I got. I hated it so bad. But
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  Speaker 4: I also I have been again, your mental health journey
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  Speaker 4: and your journey in being a public facing person, those
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  Speaker 4: have to be in lockstep like those if you are
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  Speaker 4: ever having poor mental health. There are so many times
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: I could say I've been at a table with y'all
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  Speaker 4: and been in the worst states of my life and
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, that interview is going to be whatever.
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  Speaker 4: And times I've been like, I'm actually not doing interviews
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  Speaker 4: this year because all of this shit. And absolutely, but
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  Speaker 4: I've also was not in a positive space to even
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  Speaker 4: be able to walk in a room and like hold that. Granted,
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  Speaker 4: I think the interview at the time that caused things
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  Speaker 4: like that, was it my favorite experience with someone. No,
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: but I also at multiple times in my career just
• 13:04
  Speaker 4: have not been just aligned with where I needed to
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  Speaker 4: be to be able to show up in that way.
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  Speaker 4: So now I can hold that. You could probably say
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  Speaker 4: anything to me and I'd be like, all right, cool, I've.
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  Speaker 5: Record label's gotten to the point where they actually respect
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  Speaker 5: our artists mental health, meaning like if you wake up
• 13:17
  Speaker 5: a morning and you say, look, I'm not doing no
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  Speaker 5: interviews today, I'm not doing no interviews for the next
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  Speaker 5: six months, but they're like, no, you have to, like
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  Speaker 5: they'll push you to do it anyway.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I've been signed to the same label since I
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  Speaker 4: was nineteen years old and I'm twenty nine, and they
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: have seen me through everything, So I think they're at
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  Speaker 4: the point with me where they're like, we get it,
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  Speaker 4: and we also know what you are going to show
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  Speaker 4: up and show out for, and that's you know, your fans.
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  Speaker 4: Like I never I never play about my fans. I
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: never played for showing, you know, showing up for them.
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  Speaker 4: And we've always been super transparent, developed a really good
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  Speaker 4: relationship with people in media to where like I've been
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  Speaker 4: able to call people personally and been like, it's not you,
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  Speaker 4: I promise, like I'm not doing well, or I've been
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  Speaker 4: on a run and going and going and going for
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  Speaker 4: six days and I just need to come in a
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  Speaker 4: little later, I need to reschedule this, and people have
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  Speaker 4: been super gracious with me.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm a huge mental health advocate. So what got
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  Speaker 5: you to that place where you are now, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and I mean, and I know it's a journey. I
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  Speaker 5: know it's up, so I know it's down. But what
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  Speaker 5: got you to this?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, I'm going to use this moment to be
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: really transparent and to really advocate for people, you know,
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: getting psychiatric care. And I got a psychiatrist and I
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: got a proper diagnosis after what felt like years of
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: getting soft diagnosis and misdiagnosis, and I'm able to get
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: medicated help and it keeps my mood stable and I'm
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: here and it keeps me like I would absolutely recommend
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: it to anybody that feels like they need it, because
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: it's not something that anybody needs to shame or like
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: be nervous about. And it's probably the best thing I've
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: ever done for myself.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: What got you there because most people, like you said,
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: they feel like they can't talk about it, they can't
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: discuss it, they can't get the help because they don't
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: want to be shamed, especially a celebrity. You feel like
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: somebody will see me do this, that and the other.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: What got you to the point was like, f this,
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: I need to get help.
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: You know, I was medicated when I was a kid,
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: and I remember not having the most proper experience with it,
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: just because I was really young, and like you're in
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: school and like every kid has ADHD and like it's hyperactive,
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: and I had to be in like the third grade
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: on riddling and it really messed with my personality. And
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: my mom was like, yeah, no, like you can't be
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: a zombie. Like I'll take hyperactive, turn the you know over,
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: like whatever this zombie, you know. And then on top
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: of that, still I just remained with the psychiatrist and
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: then you know, went into a teenagehood and I didn't
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: have that anymore. And then I became an adult and
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: just like my experiences in the music industry and the
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: amount of like honestly PTSD that that causes, paired with
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: you know, all your childhood trauma and like all these things,
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: you kind of get to a point where you're like,
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: all right, I'm not an expert. Like I can't keep
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: being the one to dictate this or to supplement or
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: like to to try to fix it. Ice to smoke
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: a lot of weed. Can't do it, won't do it.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: I haven't been a smoker in five years. People bring
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: me wet all the time, and I'm.
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: Like, dang, that's about Indigo kind of calms your anxiety,
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: So Teva makes you have panic.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: You know. It was because I got pregnant and I
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: couldn't and then I got I went to a throat
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: doctor and he was like, oh, you don't want to
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: sing for the rest of your life the way your
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: shit looks cause I was smoking backwards. I was smoking
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: blunts like I was what you can find pictures of
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: me with like backwoods like packs spread out like like
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: like a money spread psychotic and just nasty, just nasty.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: And it just I couldn't do it anymore. And I'm
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: just I got to a point where I was like, Okay,
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: I'm doing all the things that I can possibly do.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: I'm going to the gym, I'm developing good hobbies. I'm
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: not going out and I'm not doing this and I'm
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: still struggling. It's to the point where I need to call,
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: you know, I need to ask for help.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: Did it affect your art when you're on whatever medication?
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: No, No, it doesn't. It honestly is the first time,
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: maybe ever in my life that I feel like I
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: have been I have I'm clear, Yes.
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: Oh, congratulates. Like I told you when we first started,
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: you can really see it's a different level of confidence,
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: it's a different level sense of security.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: I would say, yeah, absolutely, thank you.
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: I appreciate it.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Now we're doing this album. You know, usually people see
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Kalani as an R and B artist, but this albums.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Popped its country. There's house music, is reggae music. Were
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: you nervous at all and be like my fan fans,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: my core won't get it.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: I actually felt the opposite. I felt like my core fans,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: my actual core fans, would get it because there's been
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: hints of all these things. When my mixhape was nominated
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: for a Grammy, it wasn't nominated for R and B.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: It was nominated for like Contemporary, you know, R and B.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: So there's been hints of things my whole life, and
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: I felt like they would really understand. I felt like
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: everybody else who really loved one really R and B
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: project of mine, or like R and B SoundCloud drops
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: or features would be like, what is this and so
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: far for the most part, that's kind of what I've seen.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Plus this little subgroup of people who are going like wow,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: I didn't even know she had this in her. This
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: is what's gonna make me fuck with her. So it's honestly,
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: it's been cool. I'm kind of really liking the polarity
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: of the response at this point. If I make the
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: same album again, I'm not an artist. If I make
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: the same project after seven projects. This is my chance
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: to pivot, and I took it, and I'm just I'm
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: stoked to be here exactly exactly. Some people are like,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: this is the best thing I've ever heard you do,
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: and some people are like, this is chicken scratch and
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: it sounds like noise and I hate it. It's like, oh,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I don't listen to anyone. I made the album I
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: wanted to make, and I'm happy with it.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: It's a bunch of different genres and it's so different.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: It was so fun to make. I had it was
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: the funnest process. It was so many people involved that
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: were all feel the exact same way about it. It
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: felt like our album, not just mine. We got to
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: celebrate it, like I'm happy.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: I keep hearing you talk about your fitness journey. Yeah,
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: but then they said recently you were body shamed on.
• 18:59
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: It was interesting body shame because what it was was
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: the accusations that I got ab etching, but yeah, it's
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: it's really interesting. The thing is I have dialysis right
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: that and a hernia from being pregnant, so my muscles
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: are split down the middle, so I have I have
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: this space right here, and this I have like a
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: lump because it's my intestine, it's a hernia, and it
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: kind of looks like an extra ab randomly above my
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: belly button. Everybody was like, that's the proof, like and
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: then they were like, yes, proof because she's not super
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: muscly anywhere else but just her core and won if
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: you go back like genetically I have my dad is
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: super buff, like I'm damn here bill like my father,
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: And then I've always kind of had right you can
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: really see it, and I and I've always had abs.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: And then upon like just really training my core to
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: like make up for the fact that my muscles aren't
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: connected and I have to get my core together to
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: be able to do any things. That's the center of everything.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: I have to go a little hard on that. And
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: I honestly thought it was hilarious. And then people just
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: being like, is that a man? And I was like,
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: do you want me to be Jesus would you like
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: me to be?
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: But what I love is like you didn't get mad
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: and like go get online and start going crazy.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Man, it doesn't do anything.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: I used to do that a lot, and then you
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: just realize, like there's crazy shit every day, Like people
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: talk about some new shit the next day. I remember
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: when the internet used to destroy me, like it you
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: what I remember the other day, maybe last week, somebody
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: might have tweeted like, oh, like, y'all don't call Kiline
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: dirty and she has tattoos and someone said, oh, you
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: must be new here, and everybody was like yeah, because
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: twenty sixteen to twenty eighteen, that was it. Everybody was
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: calling me ugly, dirty all everything. And I used to
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: be what I was fucked up about it like consistently,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: and then I just got to a point where I
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: was like, well, life kind of goes on, and like
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: I know myself and like there are people that know
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: me and love me deeply about me and like how
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: you wash right? Hello, Yes, if you guys would like
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: to come to my house for a week and don't
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: check in my shower twice a day and the levels
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: of aftercare like that's on you guys. But you know
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: you don't. You can't prove those things to people. People
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: who already want to be like that are gonna be
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Regard anyway, Are you still on social media? You got
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: off because of that?
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: No, I had got off for a second. I actually
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: didn't have Twitter for two years. I just got back
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: on because it's just what I get back on. Good
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: mental Oh it's a terrible place. It's a terrible place.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: But the people that I need to speak to, my fans.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: I once I learned how to really put blinders on,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: and not theoretical blinders, but like actual blinders, to be
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: consistently like this is what matters, and these are the
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: people that love me. It's been the best thing in
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: the world. Sometimes I have my moments. Someone yesterday says
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: some shit to me, like I think Calin is confused
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: about her sexuality, and I was like, I've been exclusively
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: dating women for three years and like the music's really gay,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: but sure, and it's somebody who like, how am I confused?
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: I think I'm the least confused I've ever been.
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: But like.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: I left the tweet up for ten seconds and deleted it.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: You have you know, you have your moments.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, how did your record label, and I guess just
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: the industry period react to your advocacy for Palestine.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: You know, I think I think we're in a kind
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: of a loop for so long of like what's safe
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: to speak about and what's not safe to speak about,
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: especially with the powers that be being so powerful and
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: that running so deep. Obviously, my music came out, and
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: obviously I'm super supportive, so absolutely no problem from my
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: record label. I have experienced a lot of pushback. I've
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: experienced a lot of loss. I've experienced a lot of
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: things that were promised and set up for this rollout
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: and album to happen, that were supposed to be a
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: lot of first really yeah, magazines and these things, and
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: those brand deals and opportunities that were sad to lose
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: by at the end of the day, like, I don't
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: I don't regret doing something that I can go to
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: sleep at night. I can go to sleep knowing that,
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: like what I learned to be as an artist, I'm
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: aligned with because I grew up fully understanding, you know,
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: the role of art in liberation, and and that's not
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: to place myself in alignment with you know, those artists
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: and those revolutionary acts. But that's to say, like I
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: understood what it meant to not be silent, even if
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: I never you know, put it with the song in
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: the video, even if just me speaking out, I always
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: knew what it meant to have a platform and that
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: responsibility in that way, and like I can go to
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: sleep knowing that, like I don't, I can look myself
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: in the mirror, you know, and know that I did,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: I did the right thing.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: Do these magazines and stuff tell your people why they
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: say you always hear advocacy.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Of those are really big buildings with a lot of
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: people involved, so it always makes its way back.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now you speak.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: You also mentioned that your advocacy for Palestine caused a
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: lot of artists to ignore your collaboration.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: So I was talking very fast on a live very
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: caffeinated early in the morning, and I wasn't able to
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: like really elaborate on that. There are a lot of
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: more people involved on artists teams and just the artists.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: And it also wasn't everything feature. There were certain people
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: who didn't get it back in time or it wasn't
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: aligned with like the timing of their album. I didn't
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: mean every single artist, but there were artists that I
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: did reach to when someone on the team was like,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: we don't fuck with her, or they said this and
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: then another thing made its way to me, or like
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: another like things we know, we know, things travel, we know,
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: people have conversations, and those people have conversations, and people
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: were respectful enough to not, you know, text me back
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: and say, girl, fuck you, I'm Zionists. You know, things
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: like that. But I wasn't able to really elaborate that
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: when I and I would never I would never sit
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: here and name names, because it's not about that. It's
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: more about how insidious these the industries are and that
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: we can be so afraid to lose what we've built
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: because so many of us have come from nothing to
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: where we have this scarcity mindset of like I have
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: to protect what I have going on so hard that
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: I will do anything to stay in that world to
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: protect it, because I have to keep feeding my family,
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: I have to keep you know, building my legacy. I
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: have to do that. I don't want to chance that.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: And it's sad because that thing that does get dangled
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: in front of our faces when it comes to really
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: important political matters that people don't align with it's sad,
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: it's unfortunate, and I don't I'm not mad at anyone.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: I'm not holding anything against anyone. I was definitely on
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: that live like yeah, and by the way, let me
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: tell y'all about that. But I definitely have those moments
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: where I'm like, this shit is fucked up. But typically
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm a longer thinker and I have more to
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: the thought and it was just unfortunately.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: So you understand when artists don't want to speak god
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: about political or social issue.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about it? Right particular background.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: I am the type of person that is very nuanced,
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: like I understand how people got to most things. It's unfortunate.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's unfortunate. I am saddened by it
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: does make me sad because I really do believe in
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: our power as people with influence. This is why the
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: presidents involve music artists. What they've got. They've got all
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: type of music artists campaigning for for for the president,
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: say God, they bring it. They bring us out to
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: sing out all the campaigns, all the events, whenever there's
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: anything going on. They want us to all get together
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: and drop a song for it. Like they keep showing
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: us how powerful we are. There's people there's a younger
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: generation who don't know what a policy is, but they would.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: They know their rappers' favorite songs, they know their R
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: and B singer's favorite songs, and they will learn about
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: anything going on in the world if their favorite person
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: tells them. And I may have expressed it super like
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: angrily every single time I've talked about it online, but
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: that's because I understand that also sometimes shame works as
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: a teacher. So if I got to come on there
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: and say fuck all of y'all, because wake your ass up,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: if you want to sit and have a longer conversation
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: with me, we can get to this point. But it
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: has made me viscerally angry so many times to feel like,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: look what we could do. And they also wouldn't be
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: able to hold us back anymore. If we all bended together.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: They can't cancel all of us. They could cancel me,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: and they'd be like, Okay, we got somebody out of here.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: That's cool. They get canceled a couple people that speak up,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: but if everybody spoke up, that power imbalance wouldn't exist anymore.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: We're just the people united. That's the quote so we
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: have to like stand on that.
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: And you raised over a half a million dollars for
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Gaza Sudan and the do you think money is the
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: only way people can help?
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Absolutely not. I think in every single issue, the idea
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: is that you're supposed to listen to the requests of
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: the people at the core of the issue. You're supposed
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: to abide by the request of the most oppressed. And
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: they have asked us to literally speak, like that's the
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: thing about this whole, Like social media doesn't do anything,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Speaking doesn't do anything. Awareness doesn't do anything. But those
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: there are people in Congo who are just saying make
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: our stories heard. There are people in Sudan who go
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: just speak about us. They're not talking about us on
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: the news, they're not talking about us in these magazines,
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: they're not talking about us anywhere. But you guys are
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: Gaza opened the door for people to even be aware
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: of Congo and Sudan on a global scale, because those
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: issues have preceded this genocide. Those genocides have been have
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: been happening, Those famines that extremely like displacement, those have
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: already been existing. And Gaza has opened up the world
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: to to Haiti, to Yemen to all of these places
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: that all this is going on. So the least we
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: can do is share things here and there. And you
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: don't have to have money, but if you do, you
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: should put it where your mouth is.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I was gonna ask what Kamala Harris, being from from
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: your side of town, did y'all ever have a conversation?
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Did you ever reach out to her everything that's going
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: on at all?
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: I'm not really a big on presidents or they're they're folks.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Not a governmental girl, really.
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: Like they're not really. I mean there's powering government, but
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: the real power with the people people.
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: Absolutely, Yeah, you are a West Coast girl, and girl,
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: what do you think about who was going for what?
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: I haven't publicly rooted for anyone, but have you not
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: seen me at the club?
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: You could hear me through the soundproof story. I very
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: much respect both artists. Drake actually named my album it
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: was good until it was and he showed me a
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: lot of love over time, like publicly privately. So has
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Kendrick like he did. You were having a conversation and
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: I told him what I wanted to name it, and
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: then he was like, no, what's going on in life,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: and I told him and he was like, and I
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I was, honestly it was good until
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: it wasn't. He was like, if you don't use it
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: as your album title, I am, And I was like, okay, right,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: you're right. It is a very Drake album title. I
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: think it's it came down to if I'm on some
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: West Coast shit, I'm from the West. Like I know,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: I know how important this unity is of all of us,
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: and I know how imperative this representation of us is.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Like I love Kendrick. That's the only artist I've ever
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: stood in the line and like waited to get something
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: signed for when I was in high school, Like it's
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: soundtrack to my life. So I have no like personal
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: entrances in anything. I I'm just as a fan of
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: the music, just musically, just music. I mean, we have
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: to respect what we what we saw.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: We saw as base people.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: Ever since though, oh my god, hilarious listen when you sing,
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: not like because it's so catchy.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: I have had moments where I was like in the
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: club and I've seen that it's a club thing, and
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: I was like, damn, this is crazy. But I also
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: remember every single big diss track in history being able
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: to be played for massive groups of people gathering and
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: it being a thing that everybody is like I was
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: too young for like the Ether era, but like everybody
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: talks about it and they're like this was crazy, like.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: This, this is in the club every night though, wasn't
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the club?
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: I mean back to Back was in the club the club. Yeah,
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: So it's eras it's moments. Honestly, I'm not in hip hop,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: so I can't speak to the sport of it, but
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: like it's a sport.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: I guess you have a.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: Text drink like, yo, man, you did your think let
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: me be ashamed about it? Was all good. No.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: I feel like he has real people around him will
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: hold them down, and I feel like it's taken that
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: moment to be like, hey, by the way, let me
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: make sure you know I support you. Yeah, he's got
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: his folks. Man, you mentioned a tour, are absolutely I
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: made this album to tours specifically, Like there was so
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: many sounds where I was like, this is gonna be
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: so fun to saying, it's gonna be so fun to
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: dance too, It's gonna be so fun to play with
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: a band. So absolutely, I think for me, touring is
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: the epicenter of my like my career, to the point
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: where sometimes you don't even see you can't even really
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: tell what's going on with the music streaming and charting wise,
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: people are like what, And then you come to the
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: tour and it's these huge venues and people are like,
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: I actually had no idea because when I look at
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: how it's doing over there, and it's just a classic
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: example for me of like impact versus you know, numbers,
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: and my shows are huge. My shows are a blast.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Everybody has a great time, everybody feels safe, everybody has fun.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Like that. That is what's important to me. So we're
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: gonna do it again, for sure.
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: That's what's up, because by then I would have had
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: my baby and I can get high.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: You miss it very much, Okay, Oh yeah, I'm not
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: like you. I'm going to smoke okay, but not backwards though.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's good. I'm trying to. I'm starting to
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: get off the backwoods movement with all the friends.
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: Take care of yoursel medicines.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: I like CBD a lot. I like mushrooms and a
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: lot of mushrooms. Making this album, you might could tell
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: there's some on here.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that one that you played me, Oh my god?
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Which one it was? When, Oh my god, it sounds
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: like a oh my god, it's like.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: If we very next to you.
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: I don't know, but he had played it, and I
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: was like, damn, if I sure, I'll probably be like
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: after hours going crazy.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: No, no, I was, I can dance to that one.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: But this one just seemed like I have no idea.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: I forgot but he.
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: Was playing it, playing the whole album earlier, but it
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: was one particular song.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, I'm can't wait to get
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: out of it that.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: I was probably on mushrooms when I made it For you?
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: Are you?
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: Are you aware of like the journey in life that
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: you're going through? And if so, what era would you define?
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: This era?
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: So comparatively to where I was at with my last album,
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: I feel like my last album, I had reached the
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: ending of what was like toxic positivity and like toxic spirituality,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: like almost psychossy, being like really in my like and
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: not accepting that. Also what comes with that is like
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: they're really getting into your shadow and really getting into
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: also like every single part of myself. And now I'm
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: in this. I feel like this era is just really
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: standing in it. I feel like I'm down to be
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: whatever everybody thinks I am. For the first time in
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: my life. I'm not over here trying to prove anything different.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: I'm not over here like I don't care to clear
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: up anything. I don't care to address anything. I have
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: nothing to say about any of that. If you think
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: I suck, let's do it. If you think I'm a
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: terrible person, let's do If you think I'm the best
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: person in the world. Thank you. I appreciate you. And
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: I think that that truly speaks to what you were
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: saying about how different I feel is that I'm settled
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: in a way where I'm so at peace with who
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: I know I am and my court foundation that it's
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: not going to be rocked by anything else going on.
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: Great, Thank you.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: The album Crash is out now. What you want to hear,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: don't say after hours. We played that already.
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: Besides that, play Deep Deep one.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: That's a fun one.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Deep all right, let's get into Deep right now. Make
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: sure you pick up the album if you haven't got
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: it already, And congratulations on everything. The fact that you're
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: just happy, you just.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: Look that's happy that you are in a place of peace.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: I'm super happy.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Well, it's killiney, ladies and gentlemen. It's the Breakfast
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: Club in the morning, The Breakfast Club