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Almost Famous OG: Farewell, Special Forces · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hello. I'm like, maybe we should take like every other
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  Speaker 2: or like one of us intros, because I feel like
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  Speaker 2: we're both always like Okay, who's going to say it?
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  Speaker 3: Almost Famous the Ogs.
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  Speaker 4: We're back with our finale recap Special Forces the World's
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  Speaker 4: Toughest Test.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so good.
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  Speaker 4: Was blown away by that episode away, right, I mean honestly, like,
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  Speaker 4: it was so incredibly intense.
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  Speaker 3: I was, yeah, oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, Spoilerer, we're going to talk
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  Speaker 4: about the finale, so get over it. You know, it's
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  Speaker 4: all over the place now at this point. But the
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  Speaker 4: final five, right, we had Cam Golden, Kayla, Alana Brody
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  Speaker 4: left Ye at the start.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and.
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  Speaker 3: Very quickly.
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  Speaker 4: It just got ratcheted up, man, I mean it was
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  Speaker 4: insane how intense that whole interrogation process was. And wow,
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  Speaker 4: I mean basically waterboarding, you know, it was really Banana
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  Speaker 4: stripped them down, had them freezing in their business, just
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  Speaker 4: going after it, challenging everything that they think about themselves.
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  Speaker 3: And what really are their motivators, and.
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  Speaker 4: With Alana really playing into the fact that they knew
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  Speaker 4: she missed her family, so they were just hitting that
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  Speaker 4: ale hard.
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  Speaker 3: Then that woman, what kind of mother are you? It's like,
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  Speaker 3: I know, God.
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  Speaker 2: So in our group chat, Kayla wrote Alana and said,
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  Speaker 2: I she's like, I don't know how you did it, Alana.
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  Speaker 5: I would have snapped when that woman said that to her.
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  Speaker 2: It would have been the same way I like, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, do you think I'm like a selfish mother?
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  Speaker 5: But what I'm really like? I I've always.
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  Speaker 2: Believed in the the saying or the phrase that you
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  Speaker 2: put your oxygen mask on first. You know, you got
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  Speaker 2: to take care of yourself before you can take care
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  Speaker 2: of other people. And this was an opportunity for all
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  Speaker 2: of us to grow. And obviously I think that she
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  Speaker 2: got a lot out of it, but just to hear that,
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  Speaker 2: because that's all of our as a mother, that is
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  Speaker 2: your your worst fear, that you're being selfish, that you're
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  Speaker 2: like a bad mom, you know, And for her that,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god.
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  Speaker 4: I was like watching it because I was so I
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  Speaker 4: had I had a late night last night, so I
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  Speaker 4: had to watch it this morning as I was going
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  Speaker 4: through the airport and I had my my my earbuds
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  Speaker 4: in and I must have been like reacting because I'm
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  Speaker 4: walking past people and they're like looking at me, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, oh my god, I can't believe she
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  Speaker 4: said that.
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  Speaker 3: It was like I must have a disaster. They must
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  Speaker 3: have been like, why is that dude yelling by himself?
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  Speaker 4: But I was like, I couldn't believe they went there
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  Speaker 4: with Alana because she seems like so sweet and but like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it was one of those things they probably
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  Speaker 4: they identified that and they just start picking at it,
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  Speaker 4: picking at it, picking baby crying in her earphones and
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  Speaker 4: oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: I always said, if I made it to the last day,
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  Speaker 2: that would have been I don't know if I could
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  Speaker 2: have done it.
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  Speaker 5: And she last lasted for I think they said five.
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  Speaker 2: Hours, five freaking hours of listening to a baby crying
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  Speaker 2: and others. I think they have other stuff in there, too,
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  Speaker 2: but I can not, especially after they literally just showed
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  Speaker 2: her a video and of her babies like being like
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  Speaker 2: we miss you, mommy. You know, oh, I just pulled
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  Speaker 2: on my heartstrings.
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  Speaker 4: When he had Golden Tate on the other day and
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  Speaker 4: he mentioned that that was you know, they wait till
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  Speaker 4: that last day to to show you the videos from
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  Speaker 4: your family, and it's like, oh my gosh, man and
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  Speaker 4: then Cam.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that.
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  Speaker 4: Guy was just right in his business, and I was surprised, honestly,
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  Speaker 4: I was surprised at how composed Cam was to that
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  Speaker 4: whole thing, you know, because there was some moments where
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  Speaker 4: that guy was really pushing his buttons and trying so
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  Speaker 4: hard to get him.
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  Speaker 3: To just snap, you know.
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  Speaker 4: So so okay, so let's talk about this. So we
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  Speaker 4: got so Alana goes first. Then Cam no, no, Cam stays.
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  Speaker 5: What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm trying to think about how how it was
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  Speaker 3: like when people left, like from the interrogation. Alana was
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  Speaker 3: the first one to leave from the atarior.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but but we should probably back up because
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  Speaker 2: the this is like the second day of right, you
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  Speaker 2: know this, So let's let's go from the beginning. Let's yes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: talk about the fact that they they started out and
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  Speaker 2: they actually I think they did the like fighting the
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  Speaker 2: like here whatever that red suited guyable, I.
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  Speaker 3: Am tellit.
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  Speaker 2: Right, like they really had to be in the zone
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  Speaker 2: to fight and then to pull yourself out of like
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  Speaker 2: being such an aggressor and having to tap into that
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  Speaker 2: like that angry part of yourself where you really have
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  Speaker 2: to fight for your life and then just switch it off.
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  Speaker 3: Crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, when else in the world do you ever
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  Speaker 2: have that kind of like training, you know, never ever,
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  Speaker 2: ever would you ever like, you know, go through that
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  Speaker 2: and get to the point where you're being like yelled
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  Speaker 2: at to fight harder and then yelled at to stop
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  Speaker 2: just as quickly, you know, and you crazy like you
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  Speaker 2: just you're done.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 2: I I am really freaking proud of the fact that
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  Speaker 2: there's these two women freaking rock stars still on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Like when I was there, I you know, I could
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  Speaker 2: have guessed that that Brody and Cam and Golden and
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  Speaker 2: Carrie unfortunately he got injured, we're going to be at
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  Speaker 2: the end, you know for sure. And then it was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: yeah you can. You can guess that more people or
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  Speaker 2: hope that more people are going to make it. And
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  Speaker 2: I really wanted to make it, but clearly I would
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  Speaker 2: have been I would.
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  Speaker 5: Have been done.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I could not have done what this last
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  Speaker 2: episode was. But I mean the guys, yes, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you think they are so physically fit that they're going
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  Speaker 2: to make it to the end, regardless of what the
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  Speaker 2: psychological stuff is. And so the fighting thing, I have
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  Speaker 2: to say, it was kind of like not not a letdown,
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  Speaker 2: but I was so ready to see the interrogation part
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  Speaker 2: of it, like day ten and I thought, oh, they're
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  Speaker 2: making them fight again, Like it really was intense, and
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  Speaker 2: I think it's really good training. But from a viewer's perspective,
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  Speaker 2: I was kind of like, Oh, well, they're just gonna
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna fight again. You know, let's let's get you know,
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  Speaker 2: for them, I'm sure it was not easy because everything
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  Speaker 2: on the show is way harder in reality than we're
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  Speaker 2: sitting on the couch, you know, watching.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean and you know, you got to
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  Speaker 4: imagine the physical because I mean that was even more
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  Speaker 4: physical exertion than the first.
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  Speaker 3: Fighting round that they did.
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  Speaker 4: That one almost seemed like that one was really quick,
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  Speaker 4: and it's like now they're sleep deprived, they're exhausted, they've
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  Speaker 4: been mentally just put through the ringer, and now they're
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  Speaker 4: being told like, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, fighting harder and then all of a sudden stop.
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  Speaker 4: It's like you know, the the games that would play
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  Speaker 4: with in your head and then and then you like
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  Speaker 4: like I was, I was so the interrogation part was
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  Speaker 4: sticking with me so much that I was like I
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  Speaker 4: couldn't even think.
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  Speaker 3: About this part of the show until you brought it
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  Speaker 3: back up.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean it was an intense moment, and
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  Speaker 4: now you got to imagine after that they are just spent,
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  Speaker 4: like there's nothing left in the.
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  Speaker 2: Tank, right, totally and then emotionally spent because they show
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  Speaker 2: all of them the videos that their family has sent
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  Speaker 2: them from home. Which but but I also felt like, wait,
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  Speaker 2: why does Cam only have his like production company associate saying,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're crushing this, Like I kind of felt
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  Speaker 2: bad for him. I was like, oh, I wish that
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  Speaker 2: he could have gotten that, you know, love from his
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  Speaker 2: kids or or his you know, his baby mama.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just.
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  Speaker 5: I don't wonder why they did that.
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  Speaker 2: And I wonder if it, like Devil's Advocate, maybe that
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  Speaker 2: the family just they weren't at a place where they
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  Speaker 2: could videotape, or maybe he just doesn't like his kids
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  Speaker 2: to be public, you know, like maybe, yeah, maybe he.
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  Speaker 5: Just doesn't want that for them.
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  Speaker 2: And and totally respect that, but I kind of wish
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  Speaker 2: that he had gotten, you know, some kind of video
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  Speaker 2: from a family member.
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  Speaker 4: I wonder if that gave him a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: an advantage to a certain degree, you know, because he wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: He was like he was able to kind of stay
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  Speaker 3: in his zone.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't really I mean, you know, no offense to
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  Speaker 4: any production people, but you know, at the end of
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  Speaker 4: the day, that's.
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  Speaker 3: Not going to hit me.
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  Speaker 4: That conversation is not going to hit me as raw
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  Speaker 4: and as deep as my kid crying because I'm not
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  Speaker 4: home and being like what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, just melt totally.
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  Speaker 3: So Yeah, I wonder if that gave him a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of a mental edge.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, I wonder we'll have to
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  Speaker 4: ask him or you have to ask him.
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  Speaker 3: If we don't get the interview him, you'll have to
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  Speaker 3: ask them.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, hopefully we get to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I reached out, but I haven't heard back yet, so yes.
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  Speaker 4: And then.
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  Speaker 5: Oh gosh.
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  Speaker 2: And then I think it was like they woke up,
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  Speaker 2: or actually they didn't even wake up. It was like
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  Speaker 2: the evening I think when the bomb started going off
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  Speaker 2: in camp and they like I felt bad for Golden
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  Speaker 2: because he's he's taking stuff out of his pack and
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  Speaker 2: kind of repacking it, and he literally says, just watch them.
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  Speaker 5: They're going to.
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  Speaker 2: Say like get out here, you know, right as I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to finish this up. And I feel like that
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  Speaker 2: was such a stressful thing when you're there, like you
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  Speaker 2: think to yourself, should I work on my pack right now?
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  Speaker 2: Like should I repack stuff? Or do we think that
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna call us to do another task or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: So it really was stressful when you're like to mess
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  Speaker 2: with that stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, I felt so.
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  Speaker 2: Bad for him.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and okay, let's think about this.
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  Speaker 4: I bet they didn't go to sleep because first of all,
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  Speaker 4: he didn't show them like waking up.
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  Speaker 3: But if we remember when Q was on.
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  Speaker 4: Our show, he had said that the last night was
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  Speaker 4: like you go, you know, no sleep, like it's like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, for four eight hours or something like that,
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  Speaker 4: And so I bet you they were kind of replicating that.
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  Speaker 4: And so imagine getting in that physical altercation in the start.
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  Speaker 3: Of the day. Then you're still running, you're still doing
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  Speaker 3: all the other stuff. Then you're talking to.
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  Speaker 4: Your family members, you're down, you're sad, you know. Then
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  Speaker 4: you're getting rolled into a bombing sequence. Then you're captured,
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  Speaker 4: you know. Well, then you're then you're.
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  Speaker 2: Given no Then you're running like that to find Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're to stay away from the hounds, oh god, and
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  Speaker 2: the helicopters or whatever else was out there, like just
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  Speaker 2: the stress of being hunted.
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  Speaker 5: Literally they were being hunted. I mean that too.
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  Speaker 2: And Caleb kept saying, you know, we need to get out,
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  Speaker 2: get out of the road, get out of the road.
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  Speaker 2: But it didn't seem like there was any other place
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  Speaker 2: to go, so yeah, I oh, I just give it
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  Speaker 2: up to him, and then of course they get captured.
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  Speaker 2: I have to say one really funny moment. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: write this on the on the chat yet, so I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I told you this after we recapped the
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  Speaker 2: first episode, or maybe I maybe I didn't, But on
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  Speaker 2: the boat I commented on you know what everyone was wearing,
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  Speaker 2: and one of the things that stood out to me
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  Speaker 2: was Cam was wearing a diamond anklet.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah I'm saying that, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well I don't know if you noticed it, but it
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  Speaker 2: was on him when they when he had to take
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  Speaker 2: off all of his clothes, so you know, everyone has
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  Speaker 2: to take off all their clothes and he takes off
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  Speaker 2: his sock.
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  Speaker 5: And the diamond anklet is on his ankle.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh my gosh, did he have it
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  Speaker 2: on from day one.
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  Speaker 5: And just kept it in his sock?
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  Speaker 2: Because that cannot be comfortable like running with that those
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  Speaker 2: boots on. And I pretty much guarantee that he did
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  Speaker 2: not break in his boots because he hadn't watched the show,
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  Speaker 2: and I think he just basically showed up and he
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he could of course correct me if I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 2: but I just was like, oh my gosh, there's the anklet.
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  Speaker 2: It still survives. It didn't fall off when he got
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  Speaker 2: pushed off the boat.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, or when he was like traps them
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  Speaker 4: through the mud, or when he was in his you know,
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  Speaker 4: a couple of different fisticuff sessions.
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  Speaker 3: It's like stay on, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, I know, I know, and I can't believe he
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  Speaker 2: kept it on like I would have. I would have
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  Speaker 2: passed that thing over immediately, you know, to somebody and
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  Speaker 2: said take care of this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, we had to.
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  Speaker 4: They get captured, they're given a story that they're supposed
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  Speaker 4: to tell, and this is actually so this is something
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  Speaker 4: I want to talk to you about.
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  Speaker 3: So what I thought was interesting was, you know, well,
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  Speaker 3: first of.
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  Speaker 4: All, they go through the the whole interrogation thing, and
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  Speaker 4: that the female interrogator and and then the male interrogator,
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  Speaker 4: and then they keep going to the umpire, and I
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  Speaker 4: love the way it was shot, like you only saw
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  Speaker 4: the umpire.
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  Speaker 3: From here down, you know. Yeahs like, oh that's tough.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's a tough one right there, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And then he was commenting but uh, you know Alana
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  Speaker 4: obviously they were challenging her as a mother, saying she
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  Speaker 4: wasn't you know, she was selfish and she was you know,
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  Speaker 4: she shouldn't be there, she should be with her family
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  Speaker 4: and you know, playing on everything that like you like
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: you said, you know that whole mom guilt thing, right
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  Speaker 4: that mom's all experience and it's like, you know, it's
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  Speaker 4: it's horrible. And they finally broke her, right five and
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  Speaker 4: a half hours in then it goes what was the
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  Speaker 4: next one was? Was?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Cam.
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  Speaker 4: It was Cam, and they finally like finally break him.
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  Speaker 4: But they were like, oh, that's good, that's good. You
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  Speaker 4: know he uh he should have you know, he should
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  Speaker 4: have that was the right time to back out or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I thought that was hard.
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  Speaker 2: That was hard because I do want to talk about
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  Speaker 2: Cam for a little bit. He you know, got interrogated
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  Speaker 2: and the guy is you brought it up earlier. The
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  Speaker 2: guy is in his face, like maybe a half of
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  Speaker 2: an inch from his face.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And and I am so impressed with how he composed himself,
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  Speaker 2: like blown away, that he didn't react at all, Like
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  Speaker 2: he was like stone faced, like just staring at the guy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, that takes a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he looked so drained, like they all did at
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  Speaker 4: that point, you know, like and I thought he looked
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: so drained, and but he was also like keeping it composed.
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  Speaker 4: And then and then I didn't understand was that was
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: that when they took his armband.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, so he went out.
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  Speaker 2: They had him, They had him go out and sit
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  Speaker 2: in the chicken coop, which is what Golden was telling
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  Speaker 2: us about how he sat in the chicken coop. And
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  Speaker 2: and basically like I don't know if they dug it
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  Speaker 2: out deeper, but I feel like Cam was sitting down
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  Speaker 2: and maybe it was because he had to because he's
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  Speaker 2: so much bigger than Golden. But they were like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: move your head so that they could actually put the
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  Speaker 2: like wire, you know, change top down. And then they
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: brought in buckets of water, and I am one hundred
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  Speaker 2: percent positive that was not warm water. That was freezing
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  Speaker 2: cold water.
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  Speaker 5: And they were all.
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  Speaker 2: Already shivering uncontrollably, you know, all of them. You could
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  Speaker 2: see Brody especially like he was so freezing cold. So
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  Speaker 2: to be put in the chicken coop with these people
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  Speaker 2: who are like obviously very aggressive and yelling in your face. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and then the water and then the guy is like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: do you like that? And Cam's like, yeah, I like it,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, don't say that.
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  Speaker 5: They're just gonna do it more.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know. So I was like, don't
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  Speaker 3: do it, Cam, don't do it. But what's the right answer?
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  Speaker 4: You know. It's like, I know that was confusing about
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: that part of the show for me. So like they're
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: you know, okay, let's give it. So refreshing me in
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: my mind? Why for some reason, I'm not remembering this.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: What happened next for them to take Cam's armband.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: So he went into So what he said was I
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: think what they told him in the beginning is that
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: you have to be your life has to be threatened
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: for you to give up your story, for you to
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: give up the reality of your story.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: So in order to.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Pass selection, you have to wait until your life is
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: being threatened for you to admit that you are training
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: with special forces, and I think that they told them
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: this when they were doing the like story, you know,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: the seaweed story, how they were collecting seaweed whatever. So
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I think they told him that then is you have
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: to be your life has to be threatened. At least
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I hope that they told them, because it is a
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: very very fine line. Like Cam his life is not threatened,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: but they but they I think they poured the water
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: on him, and then I want to say, he told
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: them then, so he wasn't his life wasn't being threatened.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: They took him into another room and he had to
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: wait for the umpire to come in, and I.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: Felt like I felt kind of bad for him.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: I felt like he I mean, if they told them
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: that you're life has to be threatened for you to
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: give up the true story, then I understand. But if
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: they didn't, then it is very like it's a very
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: fine line with who passes and who doesn't.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: That's what I was gonna say, because then with Golden,
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: like I would think, and I'm sure Golden was first
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: of all, he was delirious.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: You could just tell he was just sort of like.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Slammed delirious, and they they he falls in the water
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, Phail, and it's like, hold on,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: he still hasn't spilled the story.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: Like in my mind, he was doing the right thing
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: by not spilling, like by handing out with a story
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: as long as possible. But I guess at that point
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: they're like, Nope, you got to you gotta spill the
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: story because.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Your life is threatened or whatever.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: But yeah, that was a little confusing to me because
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: I felt like I was I was kind of on
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: the fence about how I felt about Cam being taken
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: what I thought was too early, and then Golden staying
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: as long as he could and then they take him.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: It's like, hold on, I know eight, So I want
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: to comment on. So Golden is on the the plank
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: essentially she's walking the plank, and Kayla is sitting down
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: with her laces zip tied and to the cement block
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: and on the chat as well. Kayla was like, I'm
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: pissed because it was so good, like how Golden like
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: snapped finally snapped on the interrogator and Golden was like,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: remind me, remind me what was said. He can't remember,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: and then she put something along the lines of you're
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: not going to touch me, and you're for damn sure
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: not going to touch her. So he totally stood up
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: for her. And I think that's probably when they pushed
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: pushed him in Yeast, which I love. And another funny
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: thing from the text is Golden wrote, Brodie, your alcohol
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: haul in tattoo Parlors is a thing. Huh. He's like
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: because they kept bringing up like the woman was like,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: oh so you like alcohol or something, and he was
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: kind of like, what are you talking about?
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Right, I know, He's like, where'd you get this tattoo?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: That was? That was? That was I was a night
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: of drinking or whatever. It was almost like he at
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: that point, you know.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: He totally did that was that was actually a funny moment.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Like it's funny because they have said I don't know
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: if Golden said this on his social media, but basically
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: like they are He's like, they are so mean, but
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: they're also like really nice in instances, so you like
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: get drawn in and you think, oh, like we're going
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: to be friends.
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: Oh no, you're not going to be friends. They are
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: just playing you.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: They're playing like a fiddle.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean at that point we're looking at
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: these guys who are just beyond right. I mean, they
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: are completely exhausted, Like Golden couldn't even hold the hardest
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: hold his head up. Uh, I know, it was insane, right.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: And then I mean, and then Brody and Kayla left
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: at the end, and man, what a what a what
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: a journey for those two man, I mean for everyone,
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, especially for all of y'all, it was a
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: huge journey, but for those particularly those last five, it
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: was kind of like, wow.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, we have to bring up the Brody
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: part about how he was getting like they were basically
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: gonna drown him. His eyes looked like like he was like,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: oh my god, they're for real, They're gonna drown me.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: I wonder if we have to ask him, like was
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: he like just didn't think he was like a step
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: away from dying.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I bet he did.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, it seemed like he was legitimately worried for
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: his life, you know, I mean, you know that it's
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: a television show. But at the same time, they're they're
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: pushing him down into the water. And again I don't
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: think it was warm water. That was freezing cold water.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: So anyway, I was like, wow, the fact that he
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: was in that, like it's basically like a pig, like
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: a slot.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: What do you call it, a not a slock, a
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: trough whatever, a trough something like that.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, I was blown away that they did that to him,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: And then Kayla with the cement block around her feet wondering.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: He's like, Okay, I'm gonna push it, and she's like no, no, no,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: I'm like, good girl, thank god.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: I'm so glad they did. I mean, I don't I
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: doubt they would have because that would just be like yeah,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: next level, but totally at that point, I guarantee you
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: she didn't know what.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: They were going to do, you know, I know, right,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I mean she had been tortured.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Even know what they're gonna do. They might have done
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: it if they had a scuba and.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: If they I was just gonna say, they might have
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: had divers down there anyway, even if like if someone
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: fell in and needed them, I bet they had divers
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: down there. Yeah, I mean, I just am so impressed.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: They really truly crushed it. But I and I wrote
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: on the chat, I'm like, kudos, massive kudos to the
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: final five, Like I want to include like Alana and
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Cam and Golden in this too. I know that obviously
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Brody and Kayla make it to the end, but I
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: feel like Cam and Golden especially were really they went
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: through like the torture part of it, and then they
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: just ended up, you know, not saying that they were
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: actually there for special Forces training soon enough, you know,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: or maybe late enough. I don't know between soon enough
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: and late enough.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Cam said it too soon and Golden didn't say.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: It at all, you know, so right right too, totally.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, It's just I mean, honestly that that was
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: the only part of the show there was a little
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: confusing to me because I felt like it was a
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: little you know, a little subjective, like they were kind
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: of like, you know, well, I don't know, it was
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: like the fine line that.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I couldn't tell, you know, why one thing was going
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: to happen over another.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: But it was intense. I mean, yeah, that whole interrogation thing.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: At first, I was thinking like, oh, that's kind of silly,
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: you know, I would just be like whatever, random person,
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: you know, But then after a while, it's like, no,
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: they're hitting on every nerve. They've watched everything about you
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: from this entire time you've been there. Probably the footage,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: a lot of footage we didn't even see, and they're
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: just going at you on all these things that they
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: know are your little Achilles heels, you.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: Know, totally.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't mention this part, but when they were running,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: like Golden had fallen into like a stream or something,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: and his boots were wet the whole time. Like, so
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: you go from being wet and cold and really tired
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: to being tortured for half of a day. Essentially, I
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: just I give it up to them. They just they
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: freaking crushed it.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, think about it this way.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: They were during that interrogation period, they never sat down, right,
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: I mean for the most part, they were standing the
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: whole time.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: They did sit down when they like Golden was sitting
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: on that chair like the guy kept saying, put your
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: hands by your side, so they did have him sitting,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: and Cam was sitting in a chair. And then for
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: like the what do you call them, the torture positions,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: like when they had to hit hands above their head,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: they were sitting.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: I think for part of that too.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: I think my back would hurt so bad because you know,
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: like when you're when you're cold and standing, and then
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: you're in that torture position. Everything I would feel like
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: I would start cramping, like I would just be like.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Same, I just be dying, same I. I. I talked
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: to the medics prior, you know how they weren't gonna
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: clear me.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and part.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Of it they said, well, if you're putting these torture positions,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: you're you're gonna have to be like I could because
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I said, I think they ask can you sit across
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: you know, chriss cross apple sauce? Can you sit cross legged?
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: Or on your knees?
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: And I think I told them at some point that
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: those bothered me. Those positions really bother me because of
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: my back, and all I could think of was how
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I would be really uh uncomfortable and probably would say, Okay,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: I'm out. I really can't. I can't sit like this.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: It's just too painful, especially.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: At that stage of the game, because you would have
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: been so fatigued so right, you know, like just beaten down,
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: and then it's like another thing. Like That's what I
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: was thinking when I was watching those guys just getting
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: chewed out, was I was like, God, another thing, you know,
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: like you're soaking wet, you're freezing, you're you got this
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: dude in your face, you haven't slept in twenty four hours.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: It's like you got a big fight the day before,
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: you know, or earlier this day or whatever. And it's
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: just like, gosh, man, an emotional toll that has to
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: take on someone at that point is got to beat
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: just next level, I know.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: And I kept thinking, oh my gosh, this has got
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: to be like PTSD for everybody watching, Like I can't
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: imagine having gone through that and watching it again, like
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: it would bring back all of those feelings. So I
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: am hopeful that we can get you know, these guys
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: on to talk about this final day because oh, actually
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Kayla did say in her stories today that she had
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: pta s watching it. Yes, I mean really like having
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: to go through it's kind of like, I mean, it's
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: not like this at all, really, but when you watch
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: the Bachelor or the Bachelorette and you're like, you know,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: having to put yourself back in that in that frame
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: of mind and you're like, oh, why did I say
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: that or why did I do that or whatever, And
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: this is obviously very different, but I feel like it's
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: it's a little traumatizing to have to watch yourself and
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: not to have to I'm sure they they're not being
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: forced to watch it, of course, but but yeah, I
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: just I'm so proud of them. It's not for me
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: to say that I'm proud of him. I mean, please,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I was only there for two days too.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Plus No, but you're part of a You're part of
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: a very special group of people that did something you know,
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: very intense together and even though you know, people left
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: at different times, it was you know, we always said
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: from the from the top of this show, it wasn't
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: about winning. It was a about you know, proving to
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: yourself that you could overcome these things.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: And you guys all.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Overcame things, and so I think it's it's pretty remarkable,
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: you know, just the fact that you all went through it.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: You're all still on this text thread and talking about it,
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: which I'm sure is very helpful for everyone to be
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: able to do that with each other. And you know,
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: because you guys are the only ones who went through this,
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: you know, and it's pretty it's pretty awesome. I think
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: it's I think it's a really cool experience and I'm
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: really I'm really happy that.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: You did it. Like, obviously we got to talk a
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: lot about it and stuff.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: I'm happy that you did it for you, and I'm
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: really happy that I got to like see a different
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: side of like I mean, I said it from a
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago, But Brody, I feel like, is
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: the person who not that he needed it, but got
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: such redemption, such character redemption out of this show by
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: being this guy who all of a sudden is vulnerable
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: and is like, I get what everybody thinks about me,
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: you know, and yeah, you like I use even saying
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: he's like from the interrogation thing, I think he was
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: the one that said, you know, you have these things
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: like sometimes you know, when something embarrassing happens in your life,
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: and these paparazzi guys will be like throw it in
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: your face when you're walking on the street with your
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: mom or something, and it's he's like, and you got
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: to like call you got to keep it together, and
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: you can't strike out at him because.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Then it's even going to get worse.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: And and it was interesting because I do remember times
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: like that in my past where you know, they'd be
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: yelling stuff and you'd be.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, this guy, you know, like, why
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: would he do that. He's trying to get a reaction
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: out of me. Don't give him one, you know.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: And so I mean, you know, Brodie, I think she
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: really showed a different side of himself. And I think that,
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: you know, it was obvious that it meant a lot
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: to the DS as well, that you know that he
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: went through.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: That because they were very very high on him.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: It seemed yeah, totally, and they still are there. I
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: feel like they're they'll be close friends for life, you know.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I also want to say, like Alana said that she
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: wasn't taken seriously, you know, she isn't taken very seriously
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: as a professional surfer, and I want to say, well,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: now she'd better be, because holy crap, she proved herself
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: she is a beast. I mean basically, you know, proving
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: to everybody that she could be at the front of
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: the line and and and crushing it. So I want
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: to say props to Alana for like, you know, for
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: crushing it and and proving to these people who haven't
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: you know, given her.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: What what was the word what?
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Who haven't taken her personally, haven't taken her seriously? So I, yeah,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I think that that's really cool. I think that Kayla's
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: story about how you know, the relationship with Travis and
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: internet trolls coming after and she really, I think feel
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: like came into her own, you know, she she found
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: her power within her and I think that that that
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: was so cool to watch to see her come into that,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: you know, come into her own and really feel that
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: you could really feel her confidence coming through at the end,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: like I freaking did this. You know, she's got to
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: be on Cloud nine today, so you know, not that
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: today is the day, like I'm sure she was on
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Cloud nine when it happened, but yeah, it was. It
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: was just really cool to see. And I know that
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: obviously we've had women win this show in the past
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: with Hannah Brown and you know, the soccer player and
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: then the Olympic the Olympic athlete on the second season,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: so it's not like women can't do it, but I just,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: you know, as a woman, I'm here for it, love
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: to see it.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah heck yeah.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: I mean honestly, I thought I thought that that whole
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: Top five was lights out, like next level.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, So but we have to I think finish the
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: pod with talking about how who you predicted was going
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: to be at the end and what what actually happened?
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: What were your predictions again, I said it was.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Going to be down.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: I thought it was going to be down to carry Golden,
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: Cam and Brody. So I got three out those four,
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: and then I thought Kayla, so I knew she was
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: going to be in there, and I and I and
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: I really did. I thought Brody was going to win it.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: But I think I don't think. I I'm not sure
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: what I said. I think I want to say I
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: think that I said Cam or Brody was going to
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: win it.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I want to say that you thought it was all
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: four of the guys, and yeah, maybe through Kayla in there.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but I I'd love to go back
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: in here. If you don't, we'll have to go back
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: and listen to the first episode.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: I I know, I know, I remember thinking to myself
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: because I just thought, like just sheer physicality. I thought Cam,
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: Carrey and Golden and Brody. I know I said that,
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: and then but I also that was right after the
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: fight episode when Kayla went like a bulldog lights out,
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: you know, just beaten people.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: And I was like, hold on, hold on, this is
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: you know, this is impressive.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: I did not have Alana in there, and I regret
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: that because you know, I think, I guess, I guess.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: You know, you're looking at a standpoint of I'm thinking
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: a navy seal in my head, and so I'm thinking
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: it's got to be this, you know, this beefcake person.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: And man, I will say, like watching that show from
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: the very beginning of it, it was an emotional journey.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: This last episode, well, well for me, the whole damn season,
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: but this last episode in particular, like it started off,
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: I was just like, oh my god, they've got to
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: be just so beaten down, you know, like you almost
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: like go there.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: With them, you know, as a viewer. But I think
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: such a cool show, you know.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: I agree.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I was going through I'm gonna make a reel of
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: kind of like behind the scenes of me and in
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: London before and after, and and I was going through
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: video and pictures last night, and one of the videos
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: that I went through was me just kind of sharing
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: just selfie mode, you know, what what had happened and.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: How I was feeling and everything.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: And and I was like, and I can't wait to
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: take a shower. I mean, it was the best shower
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: so I can't even imagine what these five were feeling.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: How was how was it for you watching it?
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Like, I mean, were you I mean having been a
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: part of the show like you were, and I mean,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: how how was it for you watching the finale?
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Was it?
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Were you happy watching it? Were you sad? Were you
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: were you you know, were like were you.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Like like bummed out that, like did you regrets like
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: you know anything when you were watching it.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: I definitely have flipped back and forth through the whole season,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: including last night.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: You know, part of me really wanted to be there.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I mean I was There's a quote that I saw
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: something about just don't quit, and Ryan was like, just
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: don't quit, like period, end of story, just don't quit.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: And I essentially quit. But I think that I followed
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: what my body was telling me, Like I was at
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: such a peaceful place when I made that decision, and
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I really hate feeling like a burden, and I was
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: really feeling like a burden. And then I flipped to, well,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I didn't have to participate in the fight because three
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: people went home with broken bones, so thank god I
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: didn't break any bones. And then just the running like
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: in between the tasks, like I really really had a
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: hard time with it, and and I feel like like
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: that hike, the the hike where Kyla and Christy.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: Both lefty did you see that? Did you watch that?
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: Did we recap that?
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, so the hike, I was like, oh, I would
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: have been out. I feel like I would have been
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: out before the last day anyway because of that hike.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, the fact that Kyla made it as far
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: as she did, and she like didn't make it like shevw'd.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: On the hike.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: We were you know, we were about the same in
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: terms of our ability to run in between tasks with
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: our heavy rocks on our back. So I don't I
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: feel like, realistically I wouldn't have made it to the
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: finale anyway, knowing what happened after I left, right, So
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: it's hard because it's like there's just this internal battle
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: of should I have left? Well, you you didn't want
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: to feel like a burden anymore, and you didn't get
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: you didn't end up getting hurt.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: But could you have stayed for longer? Maybe?
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: You know it's like my little demons an angel.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: Well, you know your rationale when you left the show, though,
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: I thought was very respectful and you know, to go
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: along with the with the whole purpose of this show,
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: which is you know, these guys, you know, they said
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: it more than once, so like we're trying to figure
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: out who we would essentially select to be with us
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: in the field when we're going through this stuff. And
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: for you, when you left, you know, you were like,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: I have so much respect for what are you know,
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: servicemen and women do, and I I just don't want
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: to be a burden to my team or my class
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: or whatever you said. I thought it was really of
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: all the reasons to leave to me, feeling like you
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: don't want to let your team down and you're a
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: burden to your team and you can see that and
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: it's it's respectful, you know. It was like it wasn't
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: like I'm leaving, you know, I'm still I'm still irritated
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: why Stephen Baldwin left.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: You know, I really shouldn't be here. But should I
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: be here? Could I get hurt?
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe I will, but I have this
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: role coming up, and it's like, come on, you know,
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: just go, you know. But it was like it was
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: like a struggle for you to go, and it was
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: a struggle for Ali and it was a struggle, you know,
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: because because you guys were really going for it, you know,
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: and I think that I think it's respectful.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: So what I'm trying to say, thank you, thank you.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: I know, I keep telling myself, you know, those little
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: things like, you know, just reminders of how I was
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: feeling and things like that that I feel like it
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: did leave in a respectful way. But still, you know,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: the devil is still very active and it always will
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: be so. I but I feel like I learned a
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: little bit that, you know, especially after talking to DS
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Billy and Rudy here on the podcast. They were like,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: this is you did the best that you could. We
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: could see that you were doing the best that you can.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: So I guess the like learning lesson, not just for me,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: but for anybody listening is don't be down on yourself
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: if you're not the strongest or the fittest, or the tallest,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: or the skinniest or the you know what I mean, whatever, Yeah,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: just do you just do you? And you know, all,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: thank God, there are people in this world like Billy
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: and Rudy and Q and Foxy who sacrifice so much
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: for our freedom and and I'm like, you know, I'm
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: not that person, but I have so much respect for
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: those people me too.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: You proved it to yourself that I mean, well, you
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: proved it to me anyway. I think you proved it
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: to a lot of people watching too, that you got
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: what it takes lady. You got out there and you
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: were tough, and you were committed. Thank you, and you
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: got out when it was the right time for you
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: to get out.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: And everybody's exit point is different, right, and so totally
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: That's that's fully uh do that's worthy of everyone's respect too.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: So I think it was really great, really a great show,
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: and I'm bombed.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: It's over, but I'm glad we get to talk about
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: I Holds a few more times with some more of
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: the people that were on the.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Show with you.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, we're we are planning on having Alana and Kyla
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: and Kayla. We've got those three lined up, so those
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: will get me coming in the future, everybody, and then
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: hopefully we can get carry on and Cam and Brody.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: I would love to get Landing on. But I don't
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: know that he.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Is, you know, doing any press for it or interested
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: in talking about it. I think he's pretty bummed that
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: that he had to leave because of Shan Ribs. So
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: who knows, maybe in the future we will oh yeay, okay,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Kyla just wrote me back, so we're we're going to
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: be able to at least talk to the three of
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: them and then and then relive it, you know, in
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: the next couple weeks. So I just want to say
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: thank you for everyone listening and supporting. And I loved
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: the show. I loved being part of it. Never ever
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: would have thought in my wildest dreams that this is
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: something that I would have signed up for. But I'm
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: proud of myself. I'm proud of myself for just taking
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: that leap of faith and challenging myself, especially at fifty
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: two years old. So anyway, I'll be really excited to
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: see the next season who they ask, because you know,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: I'm putting in my husband's name for sure.
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: I am hopeful that they will actually like put him
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: on the show. But oh, this is actually a good question,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: and I do have to go after this, But who
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: do you think? Who do we think would be another
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: good person from Bachelor Nation to have on because obviously
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: they have at least one person from Bachelornation on each season,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: who do you what would you be your prediction about
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: who they would ask interesting?
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: Well, I'd like to see Ryan, yeah, I and you know,
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: I think would be interesting on there would maybe be
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: Matt James. You know, Matt James is like a big runner,
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: big athlete.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Right and he's he's got a lot of things going on.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Right now, a lot of demons, a lot of demons
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: he's working through right now.
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: Maybe the things he's working through.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they could, you know, they would probably want
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: to I want to go after that a little bit,
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: I would think, And you know, so I think that
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: would be really interesting.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: I think he'd be a good one.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: He just strikes me as a good athlete too, like
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: as someone who I think would be, you know, able
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: to compete well on that show.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: And he's friends with Tyler Cameron who won the second season.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Yeap, So there's that.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: And then let's see I want to think of a
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: couple former athletes too, But I'll save it. I'm gonna
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: think on it. I'm want to think on that so
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: that when we get on the air next time we
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: can talk about it. But I would think I would
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: think there's a lot of people who've retired in the
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: last couple of years who might be really.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Good on that show.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: I feel like I would really love to have another bachelorette,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: like a lead, a.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Lead Jojo.
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: Jojo. Yes, love that idea.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say Caitlyn, but Caitlyn has put on
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: her stories that she's like, uh, no way, I will
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: ever do that showing.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: On there, because you know, I mean, well, actually, maybe
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: even Jojo and Jordan, maybe they.
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: Put a couple on there do it together.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: That would be pretty.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: Athletic, right, Jordan's a former college football player, and yeah,
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: that'd be interesting.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Maybe those would be good. I like that idea. We'll
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: have to ask Ashley because she clearly has the power.
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: She knew I was going to get asked.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she did, she did.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, all right.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Well, thanks everybody, Thanks to you, Thank you Trista Sutter,
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: Thanks for everyone listening to Almost Famous the Og podcast.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: We're not done. We're not done with the toughest test.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: We're going to come back with a few more of those.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: But make sure you stick around and find us wherever
• 46:16
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