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How To Change Your Voice From Gay To Straight (Do I Sound Gay?) · Under the Docs

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  Speaker 1: Is every single Disney villain basically gay sher Khan, Gay,
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  Speaker 1: Professor Radagan from The Great Mouse, Detective Gay, ja'far gay,
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  Speaker 1: Scarred Lion King Gay.
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  Speaker 4: Do I sound gay?
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  Speaker 6: Yes?
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  Speaker 5: That's the film We're dissected today, directed by David Thornton,
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  Speaker 5: narrated by David Thornton. This film is part of our
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  Speaker 5: Pride Month.
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  Speaker 4: Here's the rainbow.
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  Speaker 6: Those poop decks were doing gay stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Got to do it for Pride Month and this one
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  Speaker 4: was interesting.
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  Speaker 5: It follows David Thornton who had a question and his
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  Speaker 5: question was very simple.
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  Speaker 4: Do I sound gay?
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  Speaker 5: And it kind of goes through the history and why
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  Speaker 5: people may sound more feminine when they do lean tow ours.
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  Speaker 5: The gayness radar is beeping off control.
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  Speaker 4: They figure out how they developed this voice?
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  Speaker 6: How did you develop it?
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  Speaker 5: Plotting the course this film is supposed to be like
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  Speaker 5: on the surface, it looks like if you saw, like,
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  Speaker 5: do I sound gay, You're gonna be like, okay, probably
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  Speaker 5: pass it queer for the straight guy. It kind of
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  Speaker 5: seems like a title that would be easily to forget,
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  Speaker 5: like that there's gonna be a lot of gayness, which
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  Speaker 5: is not that it doesn't have it. Then there's a lot,
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  Speaker 5: but it kind of boils down to some other things.
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  Speaker 5: And it follows David Thornton who had this question if
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  Speaker 5: he sounds gay? And why does he sound gay? How
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  Speaker 5: did he pick up that voice? And is it something
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  Speaker 5: he can change? Is it something subconsciously or is it something.
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  Speaker 4: That he inherited? And he is who he is?
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  Speaker 5: And that's what you follow David and figure out throughout
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  Speaker 5: his life. It's a classic documentary Darryl Davis style, shall
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  Speaker 5: I say, but with a little gay twist, right Like
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  Speaker 5: you're following David around talking to his friends, talking to
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  Speaker 5: different speech therapists and things like that to figure out
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  Speaker 5: why people sound like that.
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  Speaker 1: And he does Man on the Street style interviews first,
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  Speaker 1: small little portion of it, but I'm just I'm realizing
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  Speaker 1: more about myself.
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  Speaker 6: Too that I love Man on the Street interviews. I'm
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  Speaker 6: gay for him.
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  Speaker 5: One of the claims they make and they start dialwing down,
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  Speaker 5: is like, are you born with that voice? Right?
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  Speaker 4: Is that just your voice? There's nothing you can do
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  Speaker 4: about it.
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  Speaker 5: But they kind of break it down that there's no
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  Speaker 5: science behind that, right, there's nothing that says like, oh, hey, sorry.
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  Speaker 4: Dude, you got the gay ge. Your voice is like that.
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  Speaker 5: And he even goes to a couple like speech therapists,
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  Speaker 5: which this was to me was like a lot more
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  Speaker 5: that was going on because they don't know why they're
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  Speaker 5: sounding gay. And then he's talking to his old classmates
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  Speaker 5: and college people he grew up with. In one of
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  Speaker 5: them even states they're like, yeah, dude, September fourth or
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  Speaker 5: something like that, nineteen such and such, your first year
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  Speaker 5: in college. Pinpoints when you started sounding gay. He's like,
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  Speaker 5: before that, you were cool, and then I don't know,
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  Speaker 5: you just started hey, guy like and it just changed.
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  Speaker 5: So and he was like blown away, Like he's like,
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  Speaker 5: what do you mean, Like, so I sounded different. They'd
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  Speaker 5: go to his high school friends, one of his old
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  Speaker 5: old friends, and she's like, yeah, it kind of annoyed me,
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  Speaker 5: Like you sounded normal and then one day you just
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  Speaker 5: started like this high pitched like emphasis of certain words
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  Speaker 5: and how it picks up.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's probably the whole crux of this documentary
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  Speaker 1: was that one friend and what she said to him
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  Speaker 1: like rocked him so deep. Right, So she said that
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  Speaker 1: they had been friends through childhood, growing up, that she
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  Speaker 1: knew him for seventeen years, and then he goes away
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  Speaker 1: to college for I think three years, and after he
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  Speaker 1: comes back from three years, he sounded gay, and he
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  Speaker 1: went away not sounding gay, and she said that it
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  Speaker 1: felt like an imposter voice and that she couldn't stand
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  Speaker 1: to be around him. And even the guy that's running
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  Speaker 1: this entire documentary that made this documentary, he said that
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  Speaker 1: he went through a really bad breakup and he ends
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  Speaker 1: up going to like some gay resort and he's on
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  Speaker 1: a tram like going to and front of the resort,
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  Speaker 1: and he said that at a certain moment it like
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  Speaker 1: went through a tunnel or like it got dark, and
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  Speaker 1: all he could hear were all the other gay guys
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  Speaker 1: on the tray I'm talking and the way that he
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  Speaker 1: did it was like this nagging, like inging ying year
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  Speaker 1: and at that moment he was like, damn, do I
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  Speaker 1: sound like these people? This is really annoying, Like why
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  Speaker 1: why do I sound like that? Did I choose to
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  Speaker 1: sound like that? And I guess that's the whole premise
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  Speaker 1: for this, like what happened in those three years that
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  Speaker 1: made him go from sounding quote unquote normal to coming
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  Speaker 1: back and sounding.
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  Speaker 6: Like a stereotypical gay.
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  Speaker 1: And it's it's interesting because they start qualifying, like what
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  Speaker 1: exactly does it mean to sound gay?
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  Speaker 6: And you kind of get like a checklist.
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  Speaker 5: And then it starts going through that since it's you know,
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  Speaker 5: it's not science, like what is it?
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  Speaker 4: Is it culture? And they they dove.
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  Speaker 5: Through a couple like old films from the forties and
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  Speaker 5: kind of like like these ninni and and upper they
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  Speaker 5: they claim it to be like more of this upper
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  Speaker 5: class like you.
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  Speaker 4: The one guy was talking about how well I was.
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  Speaker 5: Just imitating like the rich kids in the movies I
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  Speaker 5: was watching in the fifties and stuff that like that's
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  Speaker 5: that highlight that upper echellon like that I'm above you,
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  Speaker 5: which is an interesting thing that I did not think
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  Speaker 5: of ever. Right, first of all, I've never wondered, like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: how come this guy sounds gay? I'm just like whatever,
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  Speaker 5: dude's kind of annoying, like, you know, like to me,
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  Speaker 5: that's like preference. It does seem over the top. And
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  Speaker 5: that's where they're kind of getting into this. They're like
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  Speaker 5: is it coulture trade? And they talk about like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: when you're around more gay people, you kind of sound
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  Speaker 5: more gay, which is obvious because if you're around people
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  Speaker 5: a lot, you pick up their terminology. You guys start
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  Speaker 5: having the same slang, the same you could even change
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  Speaker 5: your voice over. But that's why, like somebody that has
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  Speaker 5: never lived in the South, like the South might say
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  Speaker 5: totally different. But if you're like from Africa, but you
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  Speaker 5: grow up in the South and your whole family's Nigerians, say,
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  Speaker 5: then they have a Nigerian accident. But you're not around
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  Speaker 5: it as much and you're around nothing, but well, what's up.
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  Speaker 4: Like you're gonna get that and pick that up.
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  Speaker 5: And that's what they kind of like heavy on the
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  Speaker 5: influences that have really emphasized their voice.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was one of the more interesting parts too,
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  Speaker 1: where they were breaking down old movies like you To,
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  Speaker 1: like forties and fifties and sixties, and they were showing
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  Speaker 1: that these affluent, rich, aristocratic men had this certain sound,
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  Speaker 1: and all the rich kids had a certain sound. So
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  Speaker 1: some of the people they're interviewing are claiming that's probably
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  Speaker 1: where they got their their feminine sound from, was from
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  Speaker 1: trying to like replicate these like at that point when
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  Speaker 1: you're a kid, you don't realize, oh, this is a
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  Speaker 1: gay person on TV and they're acting like they called
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  Speaker 1: them like sissies. And if you act like a certain way,
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  Speaker 1: then it was the one acceptable way to portray a
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  Speaker 1: gay person. And TV and movies you couldn't actually say
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  Speaker 1: they were gay, they just had to act like a
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  Speaker 1: certain way. So you had certain people sort of adopting
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  Speaker 1: this stereotype. And then there was an explanation about some kid,
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  Speaker 1: Like there was one guy where like he had a brother,
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  Speaker 1: and the brother liked to spend all the time with
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  Speaker 1: a dad in the workshop working on stuff, but he
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  Speaker 1: wanted to stay inside with his mom and you know,
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  Speaker 1: do dishes. And he said his favorite thing to do
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  Speaker 1: growing up was just hearing all the ladies gossip and
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  Speaker 1: like chat about each other on the phone, and he
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  Speaker 1: was like, guess who ended up sounded more gay like
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  Speaker 1: out of the two brothers. So there was this idea
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  Speaker 1: of if you sound feminine, it doesn't mean that you're gay,
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  Speaker 1: but it might mean that you grew up around women
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  Speaker 1: more than then, so now you're adopting all their different
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  Speaker 1: tonalities and the way that they speak, versus if you
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  Speaker 1: grow up around all men, and it doesn't mean that
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  Speaker 1: you're gay or straight. But then it's like, Okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: there is sounding feminine because you were raised by women,
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  Speaker 1: or sounding masculine because you're raised by men.
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  Speaker 6: But since neither of those are.
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  Speaker 1: Gay, why is like what else like qualifies the gay sound?
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  Speaker 1: And the big one that I hadn't even considered was
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  Speaker 1: that there is like a SaaS or like a condescending tone,
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  Speaker 1: like you're always talking down to someone from this like
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  Speaker 1: like higher level. Then they mentioned nasality, like instead of
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  Speaker 1: talking in your throat, I guess you're like talking up
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  Speaker 1: here in your nose a little bit. I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know how to do it, but like there's like the
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  Speaker 1: nasality of it, the over annunciation of s's and vowels
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  Speaker 1: and like holding onto things, like all these different very
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  Speaker 1: specific nuances and basically when you add all those up together,
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  Speaker 1: it has this like quintessential gay sound to it.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, well you's got to like be real there for
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  Speaker 5: a second. Then I'm wondering, is like be real from Cypress?
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  Speaker 5: So gay? I don't know, Like you need to find
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  Speaker 5: that out. It's not for under the docs. So you
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  Speaker 5: like this video, maybe we'll do a be real is
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  Speaker 5: he Gay? A documentary one day, but you gotta like
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  Speaker 1: You're taking all the heat for that one. You're the
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  Speaker 1: one called be real gay, not mean just for the record.
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  Speaker 1: And also the other things that they mentioned was the
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  Speaker 1: intonation that there's a lot of upswings so people that
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  Speaker 1: talk like this and they never seem to end a
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  Speaker 1: sentence because every word ends on an up Like it's
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  Speaker 1: that reminds me of like like tiny tunes or something
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  Speaker 1: like the way the tiny tunes would talk. It was
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  Speaker 1: always like a constant question. And then there's like a
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  Speaker 1: sing song pattern that kind of has to it, where
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  Speaker 1: you're almost like singing everything. And it's wild because when
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  Speaker 1: he goes and he starts talking to all his friends.
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  Speaker 1: They all kind of acknowledge that at certain points when
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  Speaker 1: they're just out in public, they hear themselves for a
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  Speaker 1: second and then they get self conscious, like, damn, I
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  Speaker 1: sound gay.
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  Speaker 4: Like they even show that.
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  Speaker 5: It's like an snl skit with Alec Baldwin and he's
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  Speaker 5: we all have had that where like not necessarily the
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  Speaker 5: gay part, but like you know, you hear yourself on
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  Speaker 5: a message, especially data. I'll date myself right in the
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  Speaker 5: nineteen hundreds, back when we had answer machines and you
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  Speaker 5: had to record it, and he's going his voice and
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  Speaker 5: then it comes back and he's like, hey, it sounds
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  Speaker 5: all feminine. He's like, decide, do I sound like that?
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  Speaker 5: And then they're like, yeah, you sound like that. I
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  Speaker 5: never thought, though, I will say that, like I would
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  Speaker 5: never the million years have been like that. Gay people
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  Speaker 5: are like feel the type of way about their voice
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  Speaker 5: right that they're like insecure about how they sound.
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  Speaker 4: That would not be the thing that would ever.
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  Speaker 5: I was baffled by that, and I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 5: that's pretty interesting that these guys are like, yeah, sometimes
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  Speaker 5: they sound gay and it really bothers me and I
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  Speaker 5: don't want to sound that way, and then when they
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  Speaker 5: dip more into like not only cultural references, but then
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  Speaker 5: who you're around, Right, they go through all the big
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  Speaker 5: characters of like throughout the sixties and seventies, different comics
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  Speaker 5: and different actors that were very flamboyant.
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  Speaker 4: Because after you.
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  Speaker 5: Get the uppity up of gay quote unquote gay in
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  Speaker 5: the sixties and seventies, you start getting like full on
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, hey girl, like over emphasized, and I think
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  Speaker 5: that's where it started splitting. And then it's almost like
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  Speaker 5: it seeped into the subconscious, like if I'm gay, I
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  Speaker 5: have to act that way. Because I thought right away
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  Speaker 5: when I was watching this documentary, like, okay, obviously, if
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  Speaker 5: you're around a lot of women and a lot of
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  Speaker 5: feminine energy, you're going to sound a little bit more feminine.
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  Speaker 5: You are going to be a little bit more feminine,
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  Speaker 5: especially you don't have guy friends, no other circle or
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  Speaker 5: point of reference. But I never considered the guys that
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  Speaker 5: were around, you know, their dad and mom. It's the
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  Speaker 5: other group of people, right, It's the people you hang around,
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  Speaker 5: and those people are influenced by television personality, so you
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  Speaker 5: may not get to the full spectrum of like the
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  Speaker 5: high pitch but you're going to pick some of that up,
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  Speaker 5: and it seems like it's been reinforced in that community.
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  Speaker 1: I guess if all your friends say to each other
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  Speaker 1: slay queen and everyone calls each other girlfriend, at a
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  Speaker 1: certain point, you're just gonna adopt that so like so
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  Speaker 1: that you can definitely sound gay without being gay.
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  Speaker 6: And there's also a lot of interesting ones.
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  Speaker 1: Examples where he's talking to gay people that have like
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  Speaker 1: really deep straight voices, and then he's talking to straight
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  Speaker 1: people that have like really high effeminate voices. And then
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  Speaker 1: the celebrities that they're mentioning. One of them was Paul Linde,
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  Speaker 1: who was Bewitched as like one of the cousins or
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  Speaker 1: uncles or something, and he was on Hollywood Squares. He
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  Speaker 1: had like this very specific speech pattern to him. Then
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  Speaker 1: they mentioned like Liberaci, and they mentioned like Truman Capoti
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  Speaker 1: and a few others. And then one of my favorite
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  Speaker 1: parts is they start going through all the Disney villains
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  Speaker 1: man from like the fifties all the way up to
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  Speaker 1: modern day, and they're like, is every single Disney villain
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  Speaker 1: basically gay? Sheer Khan, gay Professor Radigan from The Great
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  Speaker 1: Mouse Detective gay Ja'afar gay, Scar and Lion King gay,
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  Speaker 1: like all of these Disney villains. And it's wild because
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  Speaker 1: after they've explained like, here's the stereotype, here what to
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  Speaker 1: look out for, Here's the way that it's voice and
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  Speaker 1: the tonality, and then it's like, here's all these examples.
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  Speaker 1: And I had never even considered that all of the
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  Speaker 1: Disney villains were gay until now.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, when I see they were, like Captain Hook was
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  Speaker 5: Hella gay? And I'm like, I don't know about that.
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  Speaker 5: And then they pan back later on to his friend
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  Speaker 5: who also has the Captain Hook.
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  Speaker 4: Mustache, and I'm like, Captain Hook is gay?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you never really had ach and Peter Pan too, technically,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the whole thing.
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  Speaker 4: And then well, right Hook to Pan is the full cycle.
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  Speaker 1: So they go through the different ways that it like
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  Speaker 1: it basically sounds gay, and then there was one of
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  Speaker 1: the people that he's talking to is expressing how they
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  Speaker 1: get frustrated with sounding gay, where he's like, I've never
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  Speaker 1: been able to check into a hotel and call and
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  Speaker 1: ask for another pillow and they're always like right away, ma'am.
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  Speaker 1: And he hangs up and he just sits there and
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  Speaker 1: he thinks about like, damn, do I really sound like
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  Speaker 1: a mam, and that he can't hear him. He's like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't sound gay to me because this is how
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  Speaker 1: I've always talked, and it is kind of wild, Like
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  Speaker 1: I guess there's plenty of people out there that maybe
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  Speaker 1: they sound gay, they just don't even realize it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's also when he because I think this whole
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  Speaker 5: stems right from, like you said, he had a bad breakup.
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  Speaker 5: It starts about his breakup and that he's out there
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  Speaker 5: trying to find out, find love, get back into the
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  Speaker 5: saddle right, figure out who he's gonna be with. And
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  Speaker 5: I think someone told him that he sounds gay. And
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  Speaker 5: another point that I never knew is I didn't know
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  Speaker 5: like there's a big portion of the gay community that's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you sound way too gay.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to be with you.
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  Speaker 5: So he's interviewing people on the streets like, hey, would
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  Speaker 5: you be with So why wouldn't you be with someone
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  Speaker 5: that sounds gay? And they're explaining like, well, yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 5: looking for masculine energy, And I guess I never thought
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  Speaker 5: I thought you had one masculine and one fem Like
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  Speaker 5: that's I thought just how it went, and I guess
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  Speaker 5: there's a large portion of the community that's like, no,
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  Speaker 5: if they sound faggy, they sound gay, they don't. I
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  Speaker 5: don't like it. And I was like, wow, they're like
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  Speaker 5: dissing it harder than any straighter and they're like kind
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  Speaker 5: of worse than we would be critiquing them.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, oh, wow, you sound really gay.
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  Speaker 6: Well yeah.
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  Speaker 1: One of them specifically said he was like, as soon
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  Speaker 1: as a gay guy like opened his mouth and started talking,
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  Speaker 1: he was like, oh, you ruined it, Like he ruined
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  Speaker 1: the whole fantasy because he like looked butcher whatever. And
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  Speaker 1: then he started talking with a lisp and like high tones,
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  Speaker 1: so like, even gay people are sometimes turned off by
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  Speaker 1: that sound.
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  Speaker 6: So I thought all that was fast.
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  Speaker 1: What made it really fascinating, though, was when he was
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  Speaker 1: able to pinpoint that he sounded again quote unquote like
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  Speaker 1: normal for the first twenty years of his life, then
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: goes away for three years and then comes back and
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: has completely adapted this new sound without even realizing it himself.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: And then it almost sounds like those three years he's
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: going to be spending the rest of his life sort
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: of fighting against that.
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: So he goes to the speech therapist.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: They give him all these different techniques, how to speak
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: from the diaphragm, how to like lower where the audio
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: is coming from your No, it was like down into
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: your throat, like all these different techniques, and he legitimately
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: makes progress, like even at the best progress, Like you
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: can hear it. You're like, oh, man, his voice is deeper,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: he sounds more commanding.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: Still sounds gay, though, Yeah, and there's this story, like again,
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: someone can fact check me.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but I've.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: Heard this story around that a man, a gay man,
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: went into surgery, went under anesthesia, and then he came
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: out of anesthesia and he was like, hey, what's up, bro,
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: like talking like normal. So, watching knowing that reference and
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: then watching this film, I was thinking like, oh, what
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: if it's just so stuck in your brain, like you're
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: subconscious and you can't break it because you're like this
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: is me, Like it's one of those things when you
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: have a bad habit and.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: You continuously do it because you can't get out of it,
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Like you don't see any other way.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: He can't see that he could talk differently because they
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: go through speech therapists who's like, hey, try to open
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: up your diaphragm, even goes to people like linguist and
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: people breaking down voice.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Like they even had a.
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: Guy, a gay guy at that also breaking down like
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: vocals and telling you, this is an authoritarian voice.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: Why do we need authoritarying voices?
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: They were going through the one guy that was teaching
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: him that he has his I think it was book
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: on tape or something like that, because this is twenty fourteen,
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: so it's not as modern as just popping YouTube. People
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: weren't still relevant to that. It was just still on
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: the early ages. He's telling them like and you could
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: see like it's world leaders and people that like control power.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: He's like talking with more authority is with that base
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: and it gets people to listen, and you get people
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: to follow you, you become a leader. And so it
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: was interesting to me that they were talking about voice
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: and differ I started taking in a different context of like, okay,
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: it's not just about sounding gay, but like voice does
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: matter where your status in society. Like I never really
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: thought about your voice being so powerful as far as
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: like how you sound, how directive you are, but you
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: can't even get people or kids to stop. I mean,
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: like if you're like Hey, like, you know what I mean,
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: you don't stop.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: But when you you're a daggo knock it off, like
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: with that bass. The kids stop and you'll.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: See, like all the kids, my brother does that sometimes,
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: Like they were at boy Scouts and then all the
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: kids are around, they're like scouts, Scouts, Hey, get up Scouts,
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: and he's like boys, like you know what, yeah, oh
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: stop immediately. It's just the different reference you get, and
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: that it actually contributes to how we.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: Think towards that.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: At the very end of this, he's talking to his
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: friends after he's been going through speech therapy for like
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: months at this point, and he's asking them, hey, have
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: you guys noticed this, and they're they're joking with him,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: they're like, you still sound gay, Like whatever, we think
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: he still sound gay. But one of his friends mentions
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: that when he went into the other room, or like
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: when he went into his bedroom and everyone was outside talking,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: that there was this one voice that was kind of
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: like booming through the wall. You can't hear what they're saying,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: but you could just hear ones like bo bo bo
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: bo bo ball and everything else is kind of like
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: higher chatty style, right, And he knew it was his
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: friend that has been working to lower his voice, and
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: the way that it just cut through everyone else's and
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: made it stand out. So I think that this is
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: really interesting too, because a lot of his friends, when
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: he starts asking these questions about like how does a
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: voice sound gay? Do you sound gay? Do I sound gay?
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: A lot of them were like, Wow, that's crazy. I've
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: never thought of that before. I've never considered like when
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: did this particular voice start if it wasn't always like that,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: and why did it start?
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: And why does it continue?
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: And then he towards the end of the film, he
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: decides to because they present like all kinds of different
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: cases of like is it bullying? But that angle kind
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: of threw me off because I'm like, Okay, like you
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: sounded that way, that's why you were bullied, right, I'm
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: not saying you should be bullied for that, But I
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: mean that didn't really connect for me because I'm like, Okay,
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: you already sounded like that. It's not like they beat
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: you into sounding like that, you know what I mean.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: I didn't see the connection. I thought that they were
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: kind of like just throwing things at the wall at
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: that point, like they're kind of going through what made
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: you gay? And why am I gay? It was not
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: just about what you sound like. But I think that
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: that maybe reinforced it. But I thought in the beginning,
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: from the first ten minutes in, I was like, yeah,
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: if you're most likely if you sound really effeminine, you
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: it's because you're around a lot of feminine energy.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I think the bullying asked what I was getting out
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: of that was. They were saying that maybe they sounded
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't just sounding, It was like the way
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: that you walk and the way that you talk. This
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: is what one of the guys they were interviewing was
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Dan Savage, Dance Savage, like really popular writer, and he
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: said that part of that who sounds super straight by
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the way Dan Savage does, he doesn't come across the
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: same way, but that if you're younger and you're getting
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: bullied for it, then you have to suppress it more.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: You have to like consciously, oh, don't sound like this,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: don't walk like this. And then once they get out
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: of high school and they can go off to college
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: or go off and just lead normal lives and the
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: bullying more or less stops, then they're like, not only
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: more free, to not suppress it, but then maybe overcompensate
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: by leaning into it, like how dare you bully?
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: And some press me now I'm going to go all out.
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: So I think that was part.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like them getting bullied made them more gay,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: but it made them lean more into it after the
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: bullying stopped, as a way to like reclaim their agency.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: And then one part two was interesting when they go
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: and talk to his friend that's straight. They're like, this
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: is my straight friend that sounds gay and like he
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: sounds super feminine, And I thought that I kind of
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: feel bad for him because I'm like, did they really
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: tell him what this documentary is or did they just
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: kind of go, hey, bro, just talk for a little bit.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: And to know by now that guy there's no way
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: that he doesn't know that he sounds gay, Oh for sure.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: But I'm just saying, now it's broadcasting on a documentary
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: that anybody can pull up and kind of like, hey, Bud,
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: is that you? And he's like, oh, man, Like that's
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: just could get made fun of forever. And then spoiler alert,
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: he stops doing the David stops doing all the voice
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: lessons and kind of just falls into it.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: He's found himself.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: And then he says, I found my voice and his
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: voice is activism.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: He's an activist, how he's or gay rights.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: I was like, okay, like that's cool and all, like
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: this is back in twenty fourteen, when they're well still
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: pushing for some of the gay marriage laws, even like
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: talk a little bit about the Arnold Schwarzenegger, like changing
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: the gay marriage law in California, and he felt like, well,
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: you know, I found my voice and it's activism, and
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: then it kind of goes off into the sunset.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: I didn't see that coming this whole way.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: I was actually like feeling like that he was going
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: to feel a certain way, and I think he was
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: tired of changing his voice, or maybe he just accepted
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: it because he's talking to his friends and they're just
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: kind of like, yeah, you still sound gay, and he's like, yeah,
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: I'm not changing any It's like.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Again, the ending is a little underwhelming, but like good
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: for him whenever he finally came to terms with whatever
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: was making him feel self conscious about his voice.
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: But I did feel a little bit.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Disappointed because it was like he was able to show, oh,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I'm just adopting the stereotype that's been since the forties
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: and probably earlier than that. And I've just me and
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: everyone I know have been modeling our voices after what
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Hollywood has told us that this particular archetype sounds like.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: And instead of being like, man, screw that, I'm gonna
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: like stop, you know, feeling in the stereotype, he's just like, oh, well,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I guess this is how I sound.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: Hidden treasures and overboard moments. I'll let you go first.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: The hidden treasure, I think was really him going to
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the speech therapist and getting the very specific feedback of
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: here's why you sound gay, here's how to not sound
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: so gay, and then seeing his progress over time. I
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: at first it was just like, man, this guy is
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: never gonna get there. But then you can start hearing
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: him like shifting his voice down into the diaphragm. He's
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: starting to have like shorter concise, mannedlike elements, the way
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: that he's talking, so making huge strides, especially when he's
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: with his other friends. He really stands out. So I
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: thought that was really interesting. I was probably one of
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the biggest highlights to me. The second big highlight was
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: just the list of the Disney villains I mean, I
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: do a cult Disney and we've been reviewing Disney animations
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: for the last couple of years now, and not once
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: have I ever really considered, like, damn, every every male
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Disney villain is gay, but not in like a derogatory way, right,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Like all of them are almost seen as these again,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: like idols that a lot like a lot of these
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: gay guys are like I wish I could sleep with Jafar,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: like I wish I was Princess Jasmine so I could
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: sleep like they love these Disney villains, so I won't
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: be able to unforget that. And then the number one,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: like the biggest highlight for this whole thing was that
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: one friend that was like honest enough with him, the
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: chick that was like, I knew you for seventeen years.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: You came back after three years at college, and you
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: sounded fake. You sounded like an imposter. It sounded like
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: you were putting on this whole big act, and I
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: couldn't stand to be around you. I didn't want to
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: hear your voice, like it all just sounded so fake.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: And it was something that she was going through and
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: it sounds like he had no idea that she felt
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: a certain way about his voice when he came back
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: and she heard it right away, and I guess it
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: took him another like decade to kind of come around
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: and figure, oh, wow, my voice changed. I wonder when
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: that happened, Like she knew if she she could have
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: just been like tooking it aside, be like, hey, why
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: are you talking so gay?
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: And then I'm sure she didn't do it because she
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: felt just like, oh, I can't say anything right because
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: it's like it years later. It's not like she told
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: him like a couple months in, like hey, Bud, like
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: what's going on. She probably was kind of took a
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: back and was like, I guess this is just how
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: it goes. I think you highlighted the best hidden treasures
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: because as soon as I see the Disney villains, I
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: was like, Oh, he's about to make He's about to
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: get a new one. I was waiting for that to
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: pop up later on this week. They're like our Disney
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: villain characters gay text on Cole Disney, you.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Know, and I agree with you.
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: My my biggest hidden treasure throughout the whole thing was
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: the voice coaching stuff and the emphasis you learned so
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: much about voice and then you even take it into
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: I take it to the conspiratorial world, and I'm just thinking, like,
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: this is part of the spy tech bro Like not
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: only are you wearing masks, but you can literally change
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: your voice, Like you can get into a whole like
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: when we start saying like that's not the real Biden
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: and he's wearing a mask, and then.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: You're like, dude, like maybe he is. Now you're literally
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: doing speech therapy.
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: And then imagine just listening to someone's voice, Like to me,
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: so much stuff was clicking on. That part of that
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: was like what really captivated me throughout it because there's
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: a big portion of them talking about voice and not
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: just about how effective it is. So and then I'm like, oh,
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: they're probably also teaching people how to use certain voice
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: techniques to like control you, like mkotra stuff.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: I was like, there needs to be a documentary on
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: just the voice stuff.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: That me was the highlight of the entire film, Like
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: the the Disney gay characters was great too. I was like, Oh,
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: I can't wait till Pari what he has.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: This one's got some overboard moments too, first of all,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: And I don't feel bad saying this because The entire
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: reason this documentary exists is because the guy that sounded
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: gay heard a whole bunch of other gay people on
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: a tram and it graded him and he was like, God,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: this is just like nails on a chalkboard. Like that's
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the inspiration for this documentary even exist is that he's
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: self identified as this really grating sound.
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: And I got say one of.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: The overboards is that you're gonna listen to that sound
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: for about an hour and a half and it is grating.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: So it's a little bit tough to get through just
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: hearing that very specific tonality for that long with no
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: real breaks aside from when they talked to his friends.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: It jumps around quite a bit. I think like it
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: could have had better editing. It's definitely amateur. It's like
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: one of like the more amateur put together. It's not bad,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: like at the runtime is pretty decent. It has very
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: conclusive sort of like storyline and plotline. But one of
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the examples of sloppy editing is that maybe halfway in
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: he starts talking to his friends that went to school
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: to him and talking about like, yeah, it didn't really
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: sound that way, and you came back from college and
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: then like another half hour goes by, and then at
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the end they have this interview with his friend, that
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: the chick that had known him for seventeen years, and
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: she says the same thing, but she's way more specific
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: about it, she's way more bothered by it.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: And it was just like, oh, why.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Didn't they include this part when they were talking about
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: that earlier? Why didn't they put all that together? It's
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: just different, maybe just amateur variations of like the editing.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: There's also the biggest overboard moment to me is that
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: he's trying to make this point of like how effeminine
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: certain and like over the top certain gay guys sound.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: And then they'll throw in some censored but very adult
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: film clips like in the middle, And it was just
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: like the second that happen the second I saw those clips,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: so like, you just eliminated ninety five percent of the
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: demographic that could potentially watch this video the second a
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: little clip like an adult clip comes on, no matter
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: how much you censor it, Like there's people are there
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: going to be offended by that for a number of reasons,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: gay or not gay. So I just it was like
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: a huge oversight to even have included that to begin with,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: and then I realized, this is only seventy seven minutes long.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: It's kind of the sweet spot they like, seventy four
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: minutes is like the absolute golden ratio for length of documentaries.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Somehow this still felt too long, like it was the
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: right time for a documentary, but I feel like it
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: could have been half as long. This could have been
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: like a forty minute special on something. There was a
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: little bit of stretching it out and milking.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: It overboar moment. For me, the most was you already
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: said I was waiting to say it too. It's like
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: you didn't need that scene, right, the adult film scene
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: where they're just like you seen that that was specifically
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: for a certain crowd, and you had this potential.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Well, first of all, you don't need it in the movie.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: It doesn't make the movie.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: I thought like, if you take that out, tighten it
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: up some of the editing, you could really get something
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: that could make a lot of people change their mind
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: and like kind of understand things. But then of course
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: you added that part, and I'm like, Okay, now you've
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: ruined You've ruined the sauce man. You had something going,
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: you ruined it. That was the biggest overboard moment for me, and.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: It was only like twelve seconds worth of content. It
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: was like, here's a clip, here's a clip. Here's a clip,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: done right, and it could have done without any of that.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: There's also like the gay parade part where like someone's
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: getting like whipped on, like you know, in the middle
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: of the street, whatever.
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: Whatever.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Even that one's not that bad because you know, if
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: you live in the city, you probably just see it
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: outside your window. The adult film clips were a step
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: too far, and I think that it solidified this documentary.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: It went from being anyone can watch this to like, oh,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: this is made for a gay audience, and I just
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: it's huge oversight to do that.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: I think that's in general, something I've wanted to touch on
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: a lot, and I've told people throughout the years. I've
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: never understood why the gay community decides to hold up
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: this sexual beacon of like that's what we're all about sex, right,
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: you see these pride parades.
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  Speaker 4: I've said it for years. If you had a.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: Parade of gay men and gay women that are just like, oh,
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: look he's the trash man, Oh that's the post office person.
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  Speaker 4: Like I think you'd get more acceptance.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: But when you're like half like naked whipping people and
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: you're like yeah, like this throws you off.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the whole identity is about who you're sexually
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  Speaker 1: attracted to, right like the like, if you take sex
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  Speaker 1: out of it, there's no more identity left. So it's
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: kind of impossible to not go down that route when
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: that is the identity.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: It's about that time, sink or swim.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna start giving you the analysis. I'm gonna
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: give you my breakdown, and then I'll give you analysis.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe just switch it up a little bit.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: So I would say that unless you care about this
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: topic linguistics and sounding gay and there sound not gay
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: and like how to change your voice, you maybe will
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: see this whole thing and not really care.
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: You don't really walk away with anything big.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: The adult film clips, the dinner party footage, some of
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: the amateur approach. It kind of gives this like a
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: unpolished feel and not for the better. Although I would
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: say this is an incredibly interesting topic and I do
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: recommend watching this documentary. Even if this sounds even a
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: little bit interesting, I do recommend watching it. I gotta
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: give it a sink though the overboards just push it
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: over the line, and the fact that if you don't
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: care about someone's voice sounding gay or not, there's really
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: nothing else in this documentary for you.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: If you can get past the twelve seconds of nonsense
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: or some of the squeaky voices and high pitch and
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: over the topness of this flamboyant that's what they're kind
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: of like picturing to you, this flamboyant gay lifestyle. And
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: mind I add that all of these gay people are
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: like upper middle class and higher right, these none of
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: these guys are down in the dumps and have no money.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: They're all like, have a little bit of money and
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: doing very well for themselves.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: I think though, that the voice part, the linguistics of
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: like it's really a gem for me.
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  Speaker 4: I think that it captivated me throughout it.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: I was able to look past like the gayness, Like
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: I pushed that aside and I was focused on like
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: the vocal part of it. And now I know I
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: phone be for everybody, but for me, I'm gonna give
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: it a flow actually because I'm like not fully seen.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: Because I do think there's a lot of gripes like
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: that you could tighten up this film and if you
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: just focused on if you would have focused on do
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: I sound gay and then actually just went the voice
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: route and didn't have to incorporate just the gay, like
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: it all being about gay, like some of the interesting
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: facts you could add into it. But I wish you
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: would have evolved it into like, oh wow, voice, voice
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: is so much, is so important in this day and
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: age and how you control things. I think it would
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: have been a swim for me. But it has to
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: be a flow. It doesn't make it quite a sync,
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: but it's close.
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: It's flow.
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  Speaker 4: I'll say that.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Well, if you want to find out if we do
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: sound gay, you can listen to a lot more of us.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: You can go check out the Paranoid American podcast. I
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: got interviews a cult Disney that I just mentioned, a
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: whole bunch of other ones, and then sewn Chris has
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: got killed the Mockingbirds podcast. So go listen to a
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: few more hours of us talking and let us know
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: in the comments do we sound gay?
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Ace the dos Yeah, the.
• 35:31
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  Speaker 3: Under the ducks, undon the ducks, Yeah under the docks.
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  Speaker 3: Just buy something, Just buy something.
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  Speaker 2: From parent nor Americans. By something.
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: Just buy something from parent nor your American.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Some merch, buy some artdealing a car.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Say you're back, need that print?
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Now your hair.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: You can say by your comic three your phone.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Think the start, I one more. Buy a stick from
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  Speaker 3: the store, Think the start I one more by something.
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  Speaker 3: From paring noid American.
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• 37:42
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• 37:47
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• 38:18
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• 38:21
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• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Because you well, uncle niggas.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: For real, You welcome. They ain't ever had a deal.
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: You welcome, man, they lacking a pill. You welcome, Yet
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: they do when it's still. You're welcome.