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Hubba-Wha?! Episode #22 - Dr. Teeth's Mellow and Profitable Episode · Muppet Fan Podcasts with ToughPigs.com

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  Our gentle morning melodies have attracted wander and admirers.
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  Hey, who are you guys? We Am is R&B, they whom as are
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  known as the Electric Mayhem. Welcome to Habawa, a Muppet quiz
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  show brought to you by toughpigs.com.
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  It's your favorite quiz show that's not like the others here.
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  Muppet fans, Muppet professionals and everyone in
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  between competes for fabulous prizes and to see who's this
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  week's. Toughest pig.
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  I'm your host Becca Petunia of toughpigs.com, and today we're
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  talking about the best of the best The Electric Mayhem.
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  That's right, the Mayhem Muppets.
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  So talented they can star in an entire show where Kermit never
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  even shows up. I've always loved the mayhem,
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  and certainly having a ton of new material this year made it
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  easier than ever to write an episode all about them.
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  And maybe someone at Disney will hear this podcast and decide to
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  renew Muppets Mayhem for Season 2.
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  And while they're listening, here's my suggestion.
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  Add Zandra and Ubu as villains to Season 2.
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  I can explain. I won't explain right now, but I
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  can explain. It's a brilliant idea, and it'll
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  it'll save it. It'll make the show even better.
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  Anyway, today's mellow and Profitable episode features
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  questions written by me. With help from Muppet Wiki plus
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  some sources I'll mention later. And Speaking of let's agree to
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  play fair today. Please don't look at Muppet Wiki
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  or any other resource during this game.
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  I'm trusting you to be honest. Like Janice, I will start
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  sneezing if anyone lies about their Muppet knowledge.
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  Anyway, before we can jam with the band, let's learn about
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  today's guest musicians. That's why we're going to play
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  our first game. To tell a face, contestants,
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  buzz in to answer some questions about yourself.
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  Whoever buzzes in first will get introduced first.
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  Ready. Go.
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  All right. So our first contestant, Dave,
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  what is your name? My name is Dave Holteen Junior.
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  Very nice. Dave Holteen Junior and.
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  This season I've started doing this because it's the right
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  thing to do, and it's about time that I started doing this.
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  What pronouns should we use for you during this recording?
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  He him. Please.
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  OK. All right.
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  So Dave, why don't you tell us a little bit about your history
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  with The Muppets and some of the work you've done with The
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  Muppets as well, because you've you've been fortunate enough to
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  do some stuff with them, correct?
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  Yeah, so like, pretty much everybody else.
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  I started as a young kid and I watched The Muppets.
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  I watched Sesame Street with my dad, The Muppet Show with my
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  dad, and of course Travel Rock. It was just me and him, and I
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  was a fan. Years later, when the Internet
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  suddenly appeared, I was like, ooh, I should see what they have
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  on The Muppets. And I was surprised to find
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  there were a lot of other fans, which at first was devastating
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  and then very quickly became exciting.
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  And it made the world a smaller place for me as well as friends.
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  And as a result, I, I, I all I could do when I was a kid was
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  draw. That's the only thing I was
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  allowed to do when I got in trouble.
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  So the thing that I do the most were The Muppets.
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  And as I got online more and more, that world continued to
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  shrink. I was on the outer edge and then
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  slowly managed to work my way in and the first I guess Muppet gig
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  job I got was doing artwork for the performers and some
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  production crew for the 2015 Muppets Show and that was
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  really, really cool. I got to go to the studio and
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  then not long after that. Craig Shemmon hired me to work
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  on his book Sam and Friends, the story of Jim Henson's first
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  television show available on Fair Man or Media.
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  You should go check it out. Yeah, well, Craig will be happy
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  about that too. And and and basically, whenever
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  Joe says, hey, I need you to Draw Something for a podcast, I
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  say I'll do my best. Well.
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  I I love all the stuff that you've done.
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  Love your work on that, that Sam and Friends book and all the
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  bonus material that you have. I have the friend of Sam's
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  sticker on my computer and all that but.
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  You know, I don't even think I have that anymore.
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  Actually, I think I gave them all away.
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  Yes, you're not. You're not friends with Sam.
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  No, not anymore. And.
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  Thanks, Dave. And Dave, who is your favorite
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  member of the Electric Mayhem? My favorite member as a member
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  is Doctor Teeth, but my favorite member to draw will always be
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  Animal. Animal is so much fun to draw,
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  just there's so much energy in any picture of animal.
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  And it's easy. It's it's just basically a
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  feather duster with eyes and teeth.
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  You know, I'm just, I'm waving my arm frantically because
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  that's how I would draw animal. That's how Animal would draw.
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  Animal too, probably. So Dave, you've earned yourself
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  20 points for all of those correct answers.
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  Those will be the only 20 points I get.
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  I'm afraid, no. I don't think so.
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  Let's move on to our second contestant.
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  Our second contestant. What is your name?
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  My name is Joe Henis. My pronouns are he, him, and I
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  like to eat drums. Look at you scooping my question
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  with with knowing that I'm going to ask you about pronouns.
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  Look at that. How did you know?
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  I I thought I would be more efficient and then you know now
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  we're talking about it and that undoes all the efficient.
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  Yeah, now it's not efficient anymore.
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  But anyway, Joe, everybody knows your history with The Muppets.
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  You are one of the coowners of the website toughpigs.com,
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  which. You should check out.
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  If you haven't, those of you listening and I thought you're
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  talking to me, I'll check it out.
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  Yeah, I'll give it. I'll give it a go.
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  Joe, have you seen it? I have not in years.
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  Yeah, I kind of gave up on it a long time ago.
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  No, that's not true. Let me tell you, it's kind of
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  gone downhill since new people took over in like 2007 or so.
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  I don't. I don't care for their
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  leadership. I mean, the truth is is
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  actually, I think I agree with you.
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  No, no. You guys do wonderful work.
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  Well, thank you. And I've been here for nine of
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  those years, so you know, but you do great work with that.
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  You've been on so many Muppet podcasts, so I don't have to ask
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  you your history with The Muppets.
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  So instead, I'm going to ask you, hey, can you get behind it?
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  Sure can, but I wish I had a really funny answer at hand.
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  Instead of just quoting A Muppet thing.
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  But can I get behind it? Yeah, because I don't know if
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  you know this about me. I'm a really big fan of conga
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  lines. Yeah, I love a good conga line.
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  And the whole purpose of a conga line is to get behind it.
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  You must have loved The Muppets. Go Hollywood.
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  I did. Oh my God.
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  That was is that the only time The Muppets have done a real
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  conga line? Cuz that's a That's a good conga
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  line. No, they they must have during
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  one of like the Hawaiian sketches that they did on the
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  Muppet Show, like Hawaiian War. We have to do some
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  investigation. We'll have to get the The Muppet
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  Wiki guys to start an article on conga lines.
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  Shane, can you get, can you get working on that right away,
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  please? Thank you very much.
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  And Joe? Who is your favorite member of
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  the Electric Mayhem? You know, I think, I think that
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  no one's ever gonna beat Floyd. In my book, Floyd is the coolest
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  guy you'll ever meet. I like both of the main
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  performers of Floyd very much. Jerry Nelson obviously was was
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  the king, and I think Matt Vogel does an incredible job with
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  Floyd. Now he he retained the coolness,
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  but I got to say, watching Muppets Mayhem, I have a
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  newfound appreciation for zoot. That not that I never I never
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  like not appreciated zoot. But like now every time he opens
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  his mouth may honestly funny. I do love me some zoot.
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  You should do a podcast about it, Joe, About that.
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  Yeah, that's a good idea. Oh, how could I forget to
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  mention the podcast you did on Muppets Mayhem?
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  I did? Yeah.
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  You want to tell us a little bit about Muppets Mayhem Backstage
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  Pass? Yeah, I I did a podcast called
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  Muppets Mayhem Backstage Pass and basically I wanted to do a
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  watch along podcast for the new show.
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  I worked with the folks in Muppet Studio at Disney to help,
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  you know, approve assets and to get interviews.
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  We ended up getting every single person that we asked for for
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  interviews, which is amazing. That includes the entire main
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  cast. And we had two of the producers,
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  Jeff Yorks and Bill Beretta, who volunteered to be in every
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  episode to give us all of like the Easter eggs and details and
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  stuff, which was incredible. That was not something I asked
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  for. They just said if you want it,
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  we're here. And I was like, I'm going to say
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  no to Bill Beretta, of course, come and play with us.
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  It was super fun. It was a great experience for
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  me, but also just such a great resource to have out in the
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  world to be able to really dig deep into these episodes,
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  because if we don't do it, who will?
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  And the cover art was provided by our very own Dave Falteen
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  Junior, who's right here with us.
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  Oh, you know, I was just about to ask you.
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  I was just about to ask you like, who was that?
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  Who was the talentless hack? Who, who did that cover art?
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  But I guess now, I guess now I know.
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  I was just saying you're not, you're not wrong.
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  Because once Joe said, oh, we have permission to use The
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  Muppets Mayhem logo and and and Disney branding, I was like,
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  well, I'm pretty much done. No, you did such a great job.
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  I'm joking. I love.
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  Well, that's the thing. I went to Dave because first
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  because #1 Dave's my guy. Love you, Dave.
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  But I thought whatever we do like Dave is going to illustrate
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  something that's really incredible.
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  And then once we said okay, we've got the logo, we got
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  permission to use the logo. And as Dave says, most of the
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  work is done, he didn't just stop that.
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  You easily could have just like thrown a the words backstage
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  pass over that logo and being done with it and I would have
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  been fine. But you actually printed out.
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  But you printed out like a real badge, like a like a backstage
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  pass that you would wear on a lanyard around your neck.
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  And you took it on a photo shoot.
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  And like you created all this amazing imagery that went so far
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  above and beyond what we would have asked you to do.
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  And you know, proving that like, you're not just an amazing
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  illustrator, but you're a terrific graphic designer and
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  you've got such an amazing eye for detail and for what makes a
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  project like this really special and unique.
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  And muppet Y. And you know that's that's why.
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  That's why you're my guy. Ah.
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  Thank you. You have 20 minutes to keep
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  going and gushing about it. Thank you.
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  Well. Hey, I'm gonna cut you off, but.
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  You won't be able to spend 20 more minutes on this, but
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  Speaking of 20, I will give you 20 points for those correct
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  answers to Cheng Hoorang. Now, thank you both and let's
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  modulate into our next game, which I'm calling.
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  Moog's Mayhead Challenge. You brought that magic as
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  always. Well, if it isn't our most loyal
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  #1 mayhead, My man moved. You know, you guys added those
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  extra 6 amps. I thought it would be overkill,
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  but you sounded better than ever.
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  It was so good. Am I yelling?
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  I'm yelling, aren't I? Yes, you are.
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  And you are most welcome. Welcome.
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  If you want to be a true mayhead like Moog, you've got to know
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  all about the six members of the Electric Mayhem.
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  So this game is about Doctor Teeth, Floyd, Pepper, Janice,
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  Zoo animal, and lips. I'll ask you a question about
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  one of the members of the Electric Mayhem.
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  You'll buzz in and answer it. It's pretty simple.
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  We will do 2 questions for each member of the band, so 12
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  questions total. Each of these questions will be
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  worth 2 points. Buzz in when you know the
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  answer, but Please wait until I finish reading the question.
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  So may heads all over the Internet can play along.
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  Ready. Ready.
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  All right, so first we're going to do 2 questions about Zoot.
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  So our Zoot question number one on Muppets Mayhem, it's revealed
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  that this is Zoot's last name, Joe.
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  Zootowski. It is Zootowski.
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  Nice. Great.
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  And our second Zoot question, Dave.
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  Goals devised Zoot's Shoe Jimmy as a tribute to this performer.
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  Dave. I'm I'm going out on a limb
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  here. Is it Jimi Hendrix?
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  It is not Jimi Hendrix. Good guess.
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  Show Do you know the secret truth of Jimmy Hsu?
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  The Secret Truth, which he declined to reveal on our
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  podcast. Which is so weird because Bill
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  Beretta revealed it on another podcast right on his podcast.
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  Apparently he wasn't supposed to.
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  That's what that's what we learned that day.
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  But the answer to your question is Jim Henson.
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  It is Jim Henson. Should I rewrite that question?
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  Should we not be talking about it?
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  It's like on Muppet Wiki because Bill Beretta said it.
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  It's public information. That's up to Dave if he really
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  wants to go into detail himself. But too late.
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  Bill spilled the beans. Yeah, exactly.
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  That was Jimmy Choo. This is on Muppet wiki.
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  I looked it up. Yeah, yes.
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  And I listened to Muppets Mayhem backstage pass, and I remember
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  passing on that. So I was like, maybe it's Jimi
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  Hendrix. Yep, he he didn't want to talk
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  about it on the episode, but Bill Beretta talked about it on
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  the Beretta Bros podcast and Muppet Wiki cited that on their
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  Jimmy Shoe page. All right, it is Jim Henson.
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  OK, our next two questions are going to be about Floyd.
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  Hey, so Floyd, Question 1. Floyd only performed music on
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  one episode of Muppets Tonight, where he accompanied Garth
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  Brooks. What instrument did he play in
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  that episode, Joe, I I genuinely do not know the answer, but I
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  figure it couldn't hurt to just say he played the marimba.
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  He did not play the marimba. Good guess, Dave.
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  For two points. Guess an instrument.
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  Let's say the kazoo. Wasn't the kazoo.
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  He played the violin. He played the violin in the
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  Fiddler on the Roof style sketch that they did.
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  That was one of Floyd's 2 appearances on Muppets Tonight.
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  Jerry Nelson was alive and was working on Muppets Tonight, and
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  yet that was one of Floyd's 2 appearances on the entire show.
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  It was weird. Second Floyd Question Floyd is
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  the only member of the Electric Mayhem to have performed at the
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  Grammy Awards. Which musician did he sing with?
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  Joe He sang with John Denver. It was John Denver.
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  Can I can I get a bonus point for knowing what song they sang?
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  Oh, well, please, yes. Tell me the song that they sang.
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  I I don't need I don't actually need the bonus point.
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  I just want to prove that I I remember they sang Gone Fishing
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  from Rocky Mountain Holiday. Correct.
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  Yes. Yeah.
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  It's a great song. It is from a mediocre special.
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  Yeah, I would venture to say a bad special, but I guess, yeah,
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  I was being kind. I don't know.
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  Any time The Muppets are on location, I can't hate the
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  special. It just looks so good when
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  they're out in the real world, even though half of those
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  location shots are fake. Do you know that?
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  I guess I haven't watched it in a long time.
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  I haven't watched it since I was a child, so maybe I don't.
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  They did a really good job at faking the the fake location,
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  but apparently they filmed half of that special out on location
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  and half of it in an airplane hangar.
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  So think about that folks, next time you watch Rocky Mountain
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  Holiday. Whatever that is.
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  Maybe every week. Or don't watch it ever.
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  That's also an option. All right.
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  Two questions about animal. Our first animal question.
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  According to a beloved quote from Frank Oz, you shouldn't
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  mess with animal because he eats this Joe.
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  He eats glass. It is glass.
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  He eats glass. Man is the is the quote second
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  animal question. In 1998, Animal was the mascot
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  for which US Olympics team Come on.
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  All three of us were alive for this one, Joe.
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  Was it the snowboarding team? It was the snowboarding team,
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  correct? They They stapled his feet to a
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  snowboard and threw him down a mountain for some television
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  appearance. Great.
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  So glad that exists in the world.
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  Hey, we got two questions about Janice.
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  While many assume that Janice is named after Janis Joplin, that
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  has never been officially confirmed.
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  However, Michael Frith notes that her design is based off of
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  which rock musician Joe Joe's on A roll.
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  Joe, I only because I could see Dave thinking and going, I don't
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  know this or else I I give you an extra few seconds to to chime
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  in. I think it's Mick Jagger, right?
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  It is Mick Jagger. She was actually originally
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  conceived as an androgynous male character and was going to have
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  a pronounced Adam's apple that bobbed up and down.
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  They were going to make a mechanism to move the Adam's
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  apple. That's wild.
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  Question 2 about Janice Richard Hunt is Janice's most famous
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  performer. However, on season one of The
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  Muppet Show, she was performed by Aaron Oscar, who performed
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  Janice. Before that, in her first
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  appearance on The Muppet Show sex and violence, it was neither
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  Richard Hunt nor Aaron Oscar Joe.
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  Was it Fran Brill? It was Fran Brill.
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  Fran Brill is technically the original Janus performer.
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  We got two questions about lips. First lips question lips.
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  First line of dialogue since the Great Muppet Caper was in
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  episode two of The Muppets 2015 sitcom, where he mentions that
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  the band loves getting this kind of food from gas stations.
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  Dave. Is it Sushi?
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  It is sushi. It is.
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  And we love Gas Station Sushi was Lips's first line of
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  dialogue in over 30 years. Nice.
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  I'm on the board. That's all I wanted.
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  Our 10th question, our second lips question.
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  Unfortunately, this is a little easier than it was when I wrote
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  this question because, well, you'll find out why in a second.
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  On Muppets, Mayhem Lips has a shirt featuring this other
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  Muppet performed by Peter Linz. Dave.
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  Tutter. It is Tutter, and it's a little
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  easier now because I wrote this question months ago and then I
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  decided to make a replica of that shirt for us to sell on
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  toughpigs.com. I saw that today on X.
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  Yeah. Oh boy.
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  And it's really cool. And I heard it on the Backstage
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  Pass podcast as well. Yes, well, that was I I put it
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  on here when it was discussed on Backstage pass like 5 weeks ago.
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  How about that, that how about that double plug just now?
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  Yeah, we got we plugged the T public, we plugged all the
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  podcasts, like, wow, you know. We plugged everybody.
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  Everybody should check out both those things.
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  Yeah, we're not plugging in X. All right.
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  And lastly, we have two questions about Doctor Teeth.
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  So our first Doctor Teeth question, Technically speaking,
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  Doctor Teeth's first television appearance was not in a pilot
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  episode of The Muppet Show. What was Doctor Teeth's first TV
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  appearance, Joe? Was it on The Tonight Show with
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  Johnny Carson? It was The Tonight Show,
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  correct? Jim Henson brought Doctor Teeth
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  along on an appearance on The Tonight Show.
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  I think it was the day before sex and violence aired.
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  My favorite thing about that, that Tonight Show episode is
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  that Jim Henson's like bringing out all these new characters.
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  Like, we see Doctor Teeth, we see Fozzie Bear, we see the
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  Swedish Chef. And like, the audience is silent
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  because nowadays you bring the Swedish Chef out and everyone
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  goes like, Oh my God, it's the Swedish Chef.
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  And they clap and they laugh and whatever.
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  And now it's the audience just like, OK, who is this guy?
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  What are you going to do? And it's kind of it's it's like
• 23:15
  Uncanny valley ish. Like it doesn't seem right when
• 23:18
  you watch. Doesn't Johnny even say, like,
• 23:21
  why didn't you bring Kermit the Frog?
• 23:23
  Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, I think Johnny.
• 23:25
  He loved Kermit, though. Yeah, Johnny.
• 23:28
  Like every time Kermit was on the show, Johnny would make a
• 23:31
  point to talk about how much he loves Kermit and doesn't like
• 23:35
  talking to Jim. He just wants Doctor Kermit.
• 23:39
  And our second and final Doctor Teeth question.
• 23:43
  While Muppets Mayhem reveals that Doctor Teeth was a dentist,
• 23:47
  the inside cover of the rock Music with The Muppets VHS tape
• 23:53
  claims that he has the name Doctor Teeth because he never
• 24:01
  Dave. Goes to the doctor.
• 24:04
  Not goes to the doctor, but you're thinking on the right
• 24:06
  right path. I think Joe finished Med school.
• 24:12
  No, Doctor. Teeth never got a cavity, and
• 24:16
  that's why they call him doctor teeth, according to rock music
• 24:20
  with The Muppets, the VHS compilation tape from the 80s.
• 24:27
  Wow, interesting. Is that how dentists became
• 24:33
  dentists? Is they just because I?
• 24:36
  I think I would like for them to have a little bit of schooling.
• 24:39
  I never broke a bone, so I guess that by that logic I could be
• 24:42
  like. I think.
• 24:43
  I think that this is. I think that this is assuming
• 24:45
  that's why they call him teeth and that isn't like his actual
• 24:49
  last name. But I don't know.
• 24:52
  So interesting that he's he's never had a cavity and yet we
• 24:55
  could see his gold tooth like he's lost an entire tooth.
• 24:58
  Yeah, that doesn't have to be from a cavity.
• 25:00
  Maybe on the boxing match, Well, still he does have, he does have
• 25:05
  good reach with TVA, good boxer, you know.
• 25:09
  Yeah, he's got those long hit the guy without getting hit.
• 25:11
  Yeah, exactly. All right, well, nice work, May
• 25:16
  heads, And now it's time for my favorite game.
• 25:19
  That's right, it's time for beat.
• 25:23
  The time, as Muppets Mayhem makes clear.
• 25:27
  The Electric Mayhem hadn't released an album until 2023.
• 25:32
  In fact, we usually associate the band with performing cover
• 25:37
  songs like Tenderly or Mr. Blue Sky.
• 25:41
  However, since their first appearance in The Muppet Show,
• 25:44
  Sex and Violence, The Electric Mayhem have performed a number
• 25:48
  of original songs. By my count, they have performed
• 25:53
  27 original songs. Between that first pilot and the
• 25:59
  date we are recording this episode.
• 26:02
  This includes all of the different ways that they have
• 26:05
  appeared in movies and TV and specials.
• 26:08
  All of those things starting with Dave.
• 26:12
  Name an original song by the Electric Mayhem.
• 26:17
  We will go back and forth between the two of you to see
• 26:21
  who can name more. If you can't remember one or you
• 26:24
  get the answer wrong, your opponent will have the chance to
• 26:27
  steal some notes and counting both instrumentals and songs
• 26:33
  with lyrics. If you don't remember the name,
• 26:36
  particularly of an instrumental, you can describe the song or the
• 26:40
  scene or something like that, right?
• 26:43
  Also, at least two of the members of the band need to have
• 26:47
  been performing for this to count as an Electric Mayhem
• 26:50
  song. What I'm not counting are
• 26:54
  original songs sung by other characters but accompanied by
• 26:58
  the mayhem. So, for instance, this really
• 27:02
  mostly only excludes Pictures in My Head from The Muppets 2011,
• 27:09
  because that's really a Kermit song that the Mayhem plays some
• 27:15
  instruments at the end of. There might be another it
• 27:18
  excludes, but I'm not counting it and I didn't write it down.
• 27:22
  So do we understand what we're looking for?
• 27:24
  Yes. Also, I just want to point out I
• 27:27
  wrote an article on Tough Pigs a few months ago about we were
• 27:32
  ranking all of the original Electric Mayhem songs before
• 27:35
  Muppets Mayhem came out. And I thought to myself, there's
• 27:38
  no way that Becca will ask about this because I wrote a whole
• 27:41
  article about it and I did not look back and remind myself of
• 27:45
  what all those songs were, which is a good thing for this, but.
• 27:49
  Here's The funny thing. I read that article when it came
• 27:51
  out. I forgot that that article was
• 27:54
  written when I wrote this up. And I went to Muppet Wiki list
• 27:59
  of Electric Mayhem songs and went through one at a time,
• 28:03
  crossing out all of the covers because they are not really
• 28:06
  separated on the way. Muppet Wiki organizes these
• 28:09
  things. And I think there might be some
• 28:12
  you missed. I will say yes, I I guarantee
• 28:15
  there's at least there's one that I can think of that I
• 28:18
  deliberately left out and we'll talk, we'll we'll cover that in
• 28:20
  a few minutes. Well, Dave name an original song
• 28:23
  by the Electric Mayhan. Let's start off with nightlife
• 28:28
  from What's That? The Great Muppet Caper.
• 28:29
  That is the Great Muppet Caper. How about a little traveling
• 28:32
  music? Very good, Joe.
• 28:37
  Can you picture that? Can you picture that correct?
• 28:40
  Can you? Can you?
• 28:42
  No, Dave. Original I'm tapped out.
• 28:50
  OK. Well, we'll we'll pass to Joe
• 28:52
  and we can we can come back to you see if you can think of 1.
• 28:55
  In the meantime, Joe can't take no for an answer.
• 29:00
  Can't take no for an answer because technically that's
• 29:02
  Doctor Teeth and Zoot. That's counts as two members.
• 29:07
  Dave, you want to try again? Original man.
• 29:12
  It can be an instrumental if you can like describe the scene or
• 29:16
  something like that or any of the new songs.
• 29:20
  Well, if it's any of the new songs.
• 29:21
  Right, I said. Up, I said.
• 29:22
  From from their first first appearance till now.
• 29:25
  So we are one. We are one, correct Back to
• 29:30
  jail. I don't know the title of it,
• 29:32
  but it's the song that they sang during Fozzie Wig's party at
• 29:36
  Muppet Christmas. Yeah, it's later.
• 29:38
  That's only play, I should say. It's labeled as Fozzie Wigs
• 29:40
  Party Waltz. I will count that, Dave.
• 29:45
  I'm trying to think of something obscure from like like Muppets
• 29:50
  Party Cruise. Sadly, only Kermit had an
• 29:55
  original song in Muppets Party Cruise.
• 29:57
  Yeah, yeah, I'm blanking. Again, new songs count, new
• 30:03
  songs count. Yes, still blanking.
• 30:06
  OK. I will, I will jump back to Joe.
• 30:09
  Joe They sing Oh, Sorry, played again.
• 30:14
  Another instrumental in Muppet Treasure Island with the
• 30:18
  Pirates. Yes, they're not really dancing.
• 30:22
  Muppet Wiki labels that as island party music.
• 30:26
  Yeah, I would not have known that title.
• 30:28
  I didn't expect you to get it. Appreciate that, Dave.
• 30:33
  Anything else? Should I just They wouldn't.
• 30:36
  They wouldn't be considered part of Cabin Fever, even though
• 30:40
  there's a couple people singing from that.
• 30:43
  No. You don't think any of the
• 30:45
  Mayhem members are actually even in that?
• 30:47
  We'll find out on season season five of Moving Right Along.
• 30:51
  I'm up at Movie Podcast, brought to you by toughpigs.com, but I
• 30:55
  don't think any of the Mayhem are actually in that scene.
• 30:57
  Maybe Animal is? No.
• 31:00
  I got nothing. OK, back to Joe.
• 31:02
  One of my favorites. No room for boring?
• 31:06
  No room for boring from the Toyota commercial, Joe, I guess.
• 31:12
  Keep, keep going, Dave if you think of 1, raise your hand,
• 31:18
  raise your hand. I'll, I'll just shut up.
• 31:22
  Well, let's see. In the new show, we've got rock
• 31:24
  on, correct? That's the theme, the theme song
• 31:28
  we've got from the from Muppets Most Wanted.
• 31:33
  They have the, the really long instrumental that's like it's
• 31:38
  like 10 hours of them playing. That's referred to as total
• 31:42
  mayhem on Muppet Wing. Total mayhem, right?
• 31:47
  Again, I didn't expect you to get the names.
• 31:51
  Let's see, I know I'm kind of We're missing a bunch from
• 31:53
  Muppets Mayhem. Are we counting The Muppets
• 31:56
  Mayhem end music? We Are, which was also the theme
• 32:00
  song that we used for Muppets Mayhem Backstage Bass.
• 32:03
  Correct plug. Dave, you got anything?
• 32:07
  I got nothing. I appreciate, I appreciate
• 32:11
  trying to give me the alley you, but I got nothing and for the
• 32:16
  sake of sportsmanship I will stop there as opposed to to
• 32:19
  wasting time with me thinking. As well, Okay, here's some other
• 32:24
  choices that you could have. You could have had the Sweet
• 32:28
  Tooth Jam from The Muppet Show. It's was on some of the albums.
• 32:32
  It's the one where animal just yells jam, jam, jam all the
• 32:35
  time. Love You to Death, which is one
• 32:39
  of the songs that they played on Sex and Violence.
• 32:43
  If I recall correctly, Floyd's Floyd's Muppet Show credits
• 32:49
  theme. Fugue for Frog, his replacement
• 32:54
  for the Muppet Show theme. Don't blame the Dynamite, my
• 32:58
  personal favorite mayhem song that's from the Muppet Show.
• 33:02
  I have to be honest, I thought that was a cover.
• 33:05
  Nope. That one's original.
• 33:08
  The Pittsburgh Polka from Muppets Take Manhattan
• 33:11
  Rock'n'roll in All Around the World.
• 33:13
  From The Muppets Take The Muppets at Walt Disney World Nap
• 33:20
  Time from Muppet Wizard of Oz, the theme, to Up Late with Miss
• 33:26
  Piggy and Their. Depressed song.
• 33:31
  Depressed version of the theme to Up Late with Miss Piggy that
• 33:36
  they play when Josh Groban takes over the show.
• 33:40
  Other songs from Muppets Mayhem. I would have counted going to
• 33:44
  get there. Gotta be the sound of us,
• 33:49
  Believe in us and on our way. And one that I genuinely didn't
• 33:55
  know existed. Where you at?
• 33:58
  From Muppet Fest, which was Dave Goals and Jerry Nelson messing
• 34:04
  around and riffing with the Floyd and Zoot puppets, that
• 34:09
  counts as a song according to Muppet Wiki.
• 34:12
  Wow, that's that's new to me as well.
• 34:14
  But we're going to move into another game, this one about the
• 34:20
  Mayhem's best original song. Can you picture that?
• 34:24
  We're going to play a new game that I'm calling.
• 34:27
  Picture this now Joe. This game is pretty similar to
• 34:31
  one that you played with me back in season one of Ha Ha.
• 34:36
  Specifically, I'm thinking of the time you were on our Muppet
• 34:40
  Movie episode and we played a song lyric game.
• 34:44
  In this game, I am going to say a lyric to Can you picture that?
• 34:49
  You'll buzz in and respond with whatever the next lyric is,
• 34:55
  however, to make this challenging.
• 34:57
  I've mixed up the order of the lyrics, so we're not going to go
• 35:02
  from the beginning of the song to the end of the song.
• 35:04
  I I threw them all over the place, right?
• 35:08
  Don't get confused. I based these questions off of
• 35:11
  the lyrics on genius.com, which seem accurate to me, a person
• 35:17
  who's heard this song a zillion times.
• 35:20
  But I do apologize if there's somehow an error.
• 35:22
  Each of these lyrics is going to be worth one point.
• 35:26
  Buzz in when I finish saying my lyric with what comes next, I am
• 35:32
  going to expect you to get the words basically as accurate as
• 35:36
  possible because these are quotes.
• 35:39
  All right, Question.
• 35:49
  One fact is there's nothing out there you can't do, Joe.
• 35:59
  Yeah, even Santa Claus believes in you.
• 36:03
  Correct. I like how we're just going to
• 36:04
  say this very matter of factly, I guess.
• 36:11
  Question two, Jelly Belly. Giggling Dancing and wiggling.
• 36:20
  Joe, honey, that's the way I am. Correct.
• 36:25
  That is the that is the way you are.
• 36:27
  But don't call me honey. I couldn't.
• 36:29
  I couldn't think of the sweet word before I I was like, ah,
• 36:35
  what is it? I'm going to mess it.
• 36:37
  Up, sweetie. That's the way I am, Cutie.
• 36:39
  That's the way I am. I can't remember baby cakes.
• 36:42
  That's the way I am. Question 3.
• 36:45
  Use it if you need it, Dave. Don't forget to feed it.
• 36:53
  Correct. Don't forget to feed it.
• 36:57
  Question 4. Now begins the change in mental.
• 37:01
  Rearrange it, Joe. Nothing's really where it's at.
• 37:11
  Nothing's really where it's at, correct.
• 37:14
  Wow. Done.
• 37:14
  I had a question mark over that. Really.
• 37:16
  I wasn't understood. There it's really question 5.
• 37:22
  Crazy as a rocket. Nothing in my pocket, Joe.
• 37:30
  I keep it at the rainbow's end. I keep it at the rainbow's end,
• 37:35
  correct. Question six.
• 37:39
  I never think of money. I think of milk and honey.
• 37:47
  Dave. Grinnan like a Cheshire cat.
• 37:50
  Correct Grinnan. Like a Cheshire cat.
• 37:53
  It's hard when you mix the order of the lyrics around.
• 37:58
  I I just keep want to say I just want a buzzing go, can you
• 38:00
  picture that? Maybe you'll be right
• 38:05
  eventually. Yeah.
• 38:08
  Question seven. Let me take your picture, Dave.
• 38:16
  Add it to the mixture. Add it to the mixture.
• 38:18
  Exactly Question 8. Now the Eiffel Towers holding up
• 38:22
  a flower Joe. I gave it to a Texas cat I.
• 38:31
  Gave it to a Texas cat, correct? Wow.
• 38:35
  That's. Did you know that he gave it to
• 38:37
  a Texas cat? Did you know that?
• 38:39
  I did. Question 9.
• 38:46
  Everybody's lover, everybody's brother Dave.
• 38:54
  Hooray for Donald Glover. You know what?
• 38:57
  Yes, they predicted that. Was he performing in movies?
• 39:03
  Donald Glover. Danny Glover?
• 39:05
  Cuz one of them? Yes.
• 39:06
  Yes, yes, yes. Well, that's why I was confused.
• 39:08
  No, Donald Glover wasn't born yet.
• 39:11
  Danny Glover was in movies by then.
• 39:14
  That explains my confusion. No, unfortunately, that's not
• 39:17
  right. Joe.
• 39:18
  Everybody's lover. Everybody's brother.
• 39:22
  I wanna be your lifetime friend. I wanna be your lifetime friend,
• 39:25
  correct. That's the first lyric I want to
• 39:28
  be Donald Glover's lifetime friend.
• 39:30
  It's probably fun. I'm genuinely saying that on
• 39:33
  this podcast. If anyone knows Donald Glover, I
• 39:36
  feel like feel like he and I would get along real well.
• 39:38
  Yeah, you both like Spiderman. Yeah, he was in the 2011 Muppets
• 39:43
  movie. Remember that.
• 39:44
  I forgot about that. He probably did, too.
• 39:52
  Question 10 All of us are winning, picking and a grinning.
• 40:00
  Jam, lordy, but I love to jam. It is Lordy, but I love to jam
• 40:07
  Lordy. Lordy.
• 40:08
  Janice is 40. When you when, when you're
• 40:11
  saying them, I can hear the voice that's saying them and
• 40:15
  then following them, but then they're just like and take it.
• 40:19
  Take it. It it part of what I like.
• 40:21
  When I was writing this, I was like, I have to scramble them
• 40:25
  because otherwise I think it's too easy to just keep going in
• 40:28
  your head with the song. Yeah, super smooth and easy
• 40:31
  without it, yeah. Question question 11 and the
• 40:36
  final one here. Beat down the walls and you got
• 40:40
  to get this next part right. What does Doctor Teeth say after
• 40:44
  he says beat down the walls? Joe, this is the hard one, you
• 40:54
  know, because it sounds like he says something, but the lyric is
• 40:56
  something else. It's beat down.
• 40:59
  The walls begin. Believe God, I want to see
• 41:06
  beheats. That's not a word.
• 41:10
  Then begat is the last one. What is that word?
• 41:12
  You got 3/4 of them right, Dave, Do you know the missing word
• 41:16
  there? No, I just know the cadence
• 41:18
  changes on this one and. This is the hard one the the
• 41:26
  sources that I can find and you can hear it so I think these
• 41:29
  sources are right are beat down. The walls begin.
• 41:32
  Believe. Behold, begat.
• 41:39
  You can't hear that. No, I it's it sounds like he
• 41:44
  kind of does like a behe. I think I did Jim Henson get it
• 41:49
  wrong? I see.
• 41:50
  Behold, in every lyric sheet we No, I'm sure you're.
• 41:54
  Right, I was going to say, you're right in the ones that
• 41:56
  I've looked up, that feels like the most accurate answer from
• 41:59
  what I've seen. Now listen, the lyrics on the
• 42:01
  Internet could be wrong. Bill Beretta.
• 42:04
  The Internet? No way.
• 42:07
  Bill Beretta, if you want to, if you want to want to tweet at us
• 42:10
  with the actual lyric is if you're telling me it is not,
• 42:13
  begin, believe, Behold, begat. I will happily, retroactively
• 42:19
  give both of these fine gentlemen one point.
• 42:23
  Let's let's ask Paul Williams. He might not know I.
• 42:27
  Doubt, he remembers. I don't know.
• 42:30
  Paul Williams has an amazing memory and you know, especially
• 42:33
  for for those Muppet songs. That's fair.
• 42:35
  That's fair. So he might.
• 42:37
  And as discussed in backstage past.
• 42:39
  Apparently he no longer even wrote picture that so.
• 42:42
  That's true. That's true, yeah.
• 42:44
  You have to listen to the podcast to know what we're
• 42:46
  talking about, yeah. Well, I think either way we can
• 42:50
  agree that now your car can't be recognized, so that's good.
• 42:56
  Now for our final regular game. It's another one of my all time
• 43:00
  favorites, Mystery Guest. We previously talked about
• 43:05
  various songs performed by the Electric Mayhem.
• 43:08
  However, they also frequently appeared as a backing band in
• 43:12
  Muppet productions, accompanying guest stars and Muppets.
• 43:18
  And of course, many of these guest musicians would also
• 43:21
  appear in other Muppet related productions over the years.
• 43:26
  I'm going to describe a musician's appearance in another
• 43:30
  Muppet production. You'll buzz in and name that
• 43:34
  musician. You will earn one point for
• 43:39
  doing so. Then you can name the song or
• 43:43
  songs that this artist performed with the Electric Mayhem.
• 43:48
  If you can name the song or songs, you'll get two points for
• 43:53
  each of them. So I'm going to name a time that
• 43:55
  a celebrity appeared with The Muppets.
• 43:58
  All of the celebrities that I'm naming have also performed with
• 44:02
  the Electric Mayhem at another point in their career.
• 44:06
  You know what? Let's make it fun.
• 44:07
  You get 2 points if you can name the celebrity and you will get
• 44:11
  three points for each song you can remember.
• 44:15
  Oh, thank God I wasn't losing by enough.
• 44:21
  Some of these are a little tricky, but I believe in you,
• 44:24
  just like the Electric Mayhem believes in us.
• 44:27
  Ready. Alright, question one.
• 44:31
  In an early episode of Sesame Street, this musician sang one
• 44:34
  of his hits while a little girl enthusiastically added lyrics
• 44:39
  about Dancing Joe All Simon it is.
• 44:48
  Paul Simon, Joe, What song did the Electric Mayhem accompany
• 44:54
  Paul Simon in performing Fifty Ways to Leave Your Lover?
• 44:58
  Incorrect. They performed that without Paul
• 45:01
  Simon. Oh, you're right.
• 45:04
  That was just just the Electric Mayhem.
• 45:07
  Was it 50 Ways to Love Your Reliever?
• 45:10
  No, that's not right. Either, unfortunately.
• 45:12
  Sorry, Roland. Oh darn it.
• 45:14
  So I I don't know the song, but am I?
• 45:19
  Is it? Is it?
• 45:20
  Is it performed on The Muppets Beach Party soundtrack?
• 45:24
  No, Paul Simon is not on that album.
• 45:28
  But this is. This is the closing number of
• 45:31
  the Paul Simon episode of The Muppet Show.
• 45:34
  Dave, you want to guess the song?
• 45:36
  I I want to guess it, but I'm not going to get it, so no.
• 45:41
  Loves me like a rock. Question two one of the only
• 45:46
  celebrities to appear with The Muppets, the Fraggles and the
• 45:49
  Sesame Street Gang. He's had so many appearances,
• 45:52
  it's hard to choose just one, But he and his band did cover
• 45:56
  Fraggle Rock Rock for Back to the Rock Joe.
• 46:05
  It's Dave Grohl. It is Dave Grohl, Joe.
• 46:10
  What song has he played with at least one member of the Electric
• 46:14
  Mayhem? Oh, you know, I can picture him
• 46:19
  singing with animal on drums, but I off the top of my head I
• 46:24
  can't think what song they sing. Dave, do you remember The
• 46:27
  Muppets 2015 sitcom? Yeah, I can see him dressed up
• 46:31
  as animal and everything. That's a different one.
• 46:34
  That's a yeah. That's a one.
• 46:35
  That's when he was with The Muppets.
• 46:36
  That's, yeah. When he was Animal, was he Was
• 46:39
  it on the 2015 sitcom? It was.
• 46:41
  It was on the 2015 sitcom. I was just double checking.
• 46:44
  It doesn't help me identify the song, but I can picture that.
• 46:47
  Well, it was written. You gotta remember, it's a song
• 46:50
  that was written before 2015, so maybe that'll help you.
• 46:53
  A Dave Groll song from before. No, it was learn to fly.
• 46:59
  Well, from there is nothing left to lose.
• 47:01
  Remember, they play it over. It's actually one of the better
• 47:04
  parts of Muppets 2015. They play that intercut with
• 47:07
  scenes of Gonzo shooting himself out of the cannon for the brief
• 47:11
  moment of that show was not bad. Yeah, exactly.
• 47:14
  That's like one of the good, one of the good episodes.
• 47:18
  All right, well, you did guess that it was Dave girl question
• 47:21
  three. She played Kermit's Dr. in The
• 47:25
  Muppets Take Manhattan Joe. It was Linda Lavin.
• 47:35
  It was Linda Lavin. Joe, do you know what song the
• 47:38
  Electric Mayhem played with Linda Lavin?
• 47:41
  I literally just watched this two days ago too.
• 47:45
  Did you? Well you think while I'm
• 47:48
  thinking, cuz I can picture her, she's in the red sequined dress,
• 47:52
  She's got the band behind her. What are they singing?
• 47:56
  David Buchum is listening to this right now and he's
• 47:58
  screaming at his at his podcast app, but I do not know what it
• 48:04
  is. Dave, do you want to guess?
• 48:07
  I just like when I tell you I just watched it.
• 48:11
  I just watched it and as I think I'm proving repeatedly here, 0
• 48:16
  stuff is sticking. I am zoomed right now like.
• 48:21
  Dave, you have some points so don't you're you're you're
• 48:25
  you're you're getting some points.
• 48:26
  I got my name correct at the beginning, yeah.
• 48:28
  You did. Zoot can't always remember that
• 48:33
  he's Zoot Sax is your axe. I do not remember.
• 48:38
  It is, the more I see you. Even hearing, even hearing it,
• 48:42
  I'm like, yeah, that. I don't know.
• 48:45
  The old 90s dialup modem sound is playing in my head right now.
• 48:52
  All right, question four. He is the only Muppet Show guest
• 48:57
  star to also appear in Lady Gaga and The Muppets Holiday
• 49:01
  Spectacular. Dave is.
• 49:07
  It Tony Bennett. It is.
• 49:09
  Tony Bennett was not a Muppet Show guest star.
• 49:11
  Tony Bennett was a Muppets Tonight guest star.
• 49:14
  That is not correct. I'm sorry, even though Tony, the
• 49:17
  late Tony Bennett and Lady Gaga, We're friends.
• 49:20
  But Joe, do you know who is the only Muppet Show guest star to
• 49:25
  also appear in Lady Gaga and The Muppets Holiday Spectacular?
• 49:28
  You don't watch this every year. I sure don't.
• 49:31
  Joe, what do you, you know, you were just saying that maybe we
• 49:34
  want to do a four week long holiday.
• 49:37
  The Holiday Podcast Maybe We do a four week holiday spectacular
• 49:43
  of Lady Gaga. The Muppets Holiday Spectacular.
• 49:46
  You're killing me Becca. Dave just had a look on his face
• 49:49
  as if he suddenly remembered it. So if Dave, if you remember,
• 49:53
  feel free to. Jump, Dave.
• 49:54
  Dave, do you want to try again? Was it Elton John?
• 49:57
  It was Elton John, correct. Because I remember watching it
• 50:00
  going like, so we're just not going to address the fact that
• 50:03
  everybody knows who's on The Muppet Show.
• 50:06
  No, they don't. They don't say it at all.
• 50:08
  Dave. Dave.
• 50:10
  So here's a chance for you to really pull ahead.
• 50:13
  The Mayhem performs 3 songs with Elton John on the Elton John
• 50:18
  episode of The Muppet Show. What are the three songs that
• 50:22
  the Mayhem accompanies with? I will give you 3 points for
• 50:26
  each song you name. You don't have to name all
• 50:28
  three. What a handicap.
• 50:31
  Anyone you get right, you will get three points.
• 50:35
  Crocodile Rock. That is 1.
• 50:37
  Hold on, let me just write down the points.
• 50:38
  OK? Crocodile Rock is 1.
• 50:40
  My absolute favorite Elton John song.
• 50:44
  Goodbye Yellow Brick Road. And that one was also featured
• 50:47
  on Muppets Mayhem, a clip of that episode.
• 50:51
  And the last one, I don't know. They all looked like they were
• 50:55
  dressed up like a stolen car. Both.
• 50:58
  To be fair, that mayhem always looks like like Doctor Teeth.
• 51:02
  Again, dresses like that to begin with.
• 51:05
  Joe, do you remember what the last song that they performed
• 51:08
  with Elton was? I believe it was don't go
• 51:11
  breaking my. It was that Elton's Elton John
• 51:15
  sang with Miss Piggy. But they're they're playing the
• 51:17
  instruments in the background. Eat your heart out, Kiki.
• 51:21
  Question 5 Kermit flirted with this musician both on The Muppet
• 51:25
  Show and on the album Kermit Unpigged Dave.
• 51:34
  Debbie Harry. It's not Debbie Harry.
• 51:36
  He did flirt with her on The Muppet Show, but Debbie Harry
• 51:40
  not on Kermit Unpigged. There's an episode about Kermit
• 51:43
  Unpigged that's up on our other tough pigs feed, where.
• 51:48
  Ryan Rowe, Anthony Strand and I talked way too much about every
• 51:53
  single moment on Kermit Unpigged.
• 51:56
  That'll be going up in four days or whatever.
• 52:01
  Joe Who is it? Was it Linda Ronstadt?
• 52:05
  Linda Ronstadt Yes, that's what Kermit says when he opens the
• 52:09
  door. And and then everyone applauds,
• 52:14
  even though they can't see what's going on backstage.
• 52:15
  Oh, there's no applause on on. Kerbin on Pig.
• 52:19
  You gotta listen to that out. They turn it on The Muppet Show
• 52:22
  episode. Yes.
• 52:23
  Yes. No.
• 52:23
  I'm Kerbin on Pig. There's no applause.
• 52:25
  No, no, no, no. What's not even from us at home?
• 52:30
  What song does Linda Rodstadt play with the Electric Mayhem on
• 52:35
  The Muppet Show? Is it?
• 52:37
  It's just one song that they're on.
• 52:39
  So it's technically like 1 1/2 if we count a song with one
• 52:44
  member of the Electric Mayhem, right?
• 52:48
  Cuz I I was thinking, well, I think, I think I know the half
• 52:53
  off the top of my head is it's in his kiss.
• 52:56
  It's in his kiss. Yes, that's just Janice and like
• 53:00
  some Doo Wop singer whatnots, right?
• 53:05
  So I wasn't gonna count that because.
• 53:07
  It's something about You'll be in my heart, right?
• 53:10
  Isn't it the finale song? I don't know off the top of my
• 53:13
  head. It's not called You'll be in my
• 53:15
  heart. I know that's one that lies from
• 53:17
  it or something. Is that.
• 53:19
  Hold on, Let Me Look. It's called oh, I gotta go
• 53:22
  through the whole song in my head.
• 53:26
  You're gonna find it before I remember it.
• 53:28
  When I grow too old to dream. That's what it's called.
• 53:31
  OK, it is not that song. And the song, the word the word
• 53:36
  heart never appears in this Linda Rothstadt song.
• 53:39
  It is, of course, blue by you. I didn't remember that The
• 53:43
  Muppets were. I mean, the mayhem was in that.
• 53:45
  I thought it was just frogs. Apparently I believe in it,
• 53:48
  according to Muppet Wiki. Great.
• 53:50
  I haven't watched that episode in a while.
• 53:52
  I reviewed it for the website Tough Pigs when we did our It's
• 53:56
  a terrific episode. Muppet Show, 40 years.
• 53:58
  Yeah. All right.
• 54:01
  Next question. In a season 16 episode of Sesame
• 54:05
  Street, Oscar tries to get this celebrity to play terrible music
• 54:09
  by giving him a broken trumpet, only to realize that he can make
• 54:14
  anything sound good. Dave it.
• 54:21
  Is a total guess, but going on the broken trumpet thing?
• 54:24
  Is it Dizzy Gillespie? It is Dizzy Gillespie, correct?
• 54:26
  I was hoping that someone would just be able to.
• 54:29
  Figure that out. Do you remember what song The
• 54:31
  Mayhem plays with Dizzy Gillespie?
• 54:33
  Is it Hello Dolly? It is not Hello Dolly.
• 54:36
  Good guess, Joe, do you remember?
• 54:40
  I remember the song. I remember he's wearing a weird
• 54:43
  like vest and no shirt underneath.
• 54:46
  OK, I, I, I, I can't give you credit for reminding us that
• 54:50
  this was filmed in the 70s. Although I guess animals sort of
• 54:55
  dresses the same way he does. Is it?
• 54:58
  Is it swing low sweet chariot? It is not.
• 55:01
  It is the St. Louis Blues.
• 55:04
  Can you check the Muppet Wiki? I want to say I'm not going to
• 55:08
  say this for points, but just to make sure I'm not a crazy
• 55:11
  person. I think the song segues into
• 55:14
  swing Low Sweet chariot. But I could be wrong.
• 55:17
  I could be remembering this. Completely correctly.
• 55:18
  You are right, you are right. It does segue into that in the
• 55:24
  closing number of episodes, 413. So the closing number is
• 55:30
  technically, wait, where is Saint Louis Blues anyway?
• 55:34
  Hold on. Oh yeah, so that's earlier in
• 55:36
  the show. And then, yes, and the mayhem
• 55:40
  are there. Good.
• 55:42
  You know what? I'm learning something even new
• 55:46
  today, but Saint Louis Blues also counts.
• 55:49
  But I will give you one point for swing lows.
• 55:52
  Swing low, sweet chariot that will cherish this point.
• 56:00
  I always had a problem, just I, I, I I don't know if we're going
• 56:03
  to have an opportunity to talk about it, but I know that
• 56:06
  Muppets are genuinely going to be left-handed because
• 56:09
  performers are right-handed. But as a trumpet player and
• 56:11
  knowing how they used the armature for lips, there's no
• 56:16
  reason he had to play. Trumpet backwards.
• 56:19
  And that is something that has bothered me my entire life.
• 56:23
  Do they do they make left-handed trumpets?
• 56:25
  Is that a thing, Dave? I'm sure they do, but I've known
• 56:30
  a couple left-handed trumpet players and they just play a
• 56:33
  regular trumpet. It's, you know, it's really just
• 56:37
  how your hand fits over it and how your right hand would hold
• 56:40
  it. But for the armature and and for
• 56:42
  the mechanisms that they built, no reason for lips to be
• 56:44
  left-handed trumpet player. No reason at all.
• 56:47
  Wow. Maybe.
• 56:50
  Maybe they made the trumpet prop in a mirror.
• 56:54
  Yeah, probably. All right, Question seven.
• 56:57
  He performed The Rainbow Connection with Paul Williams
• 57:00
  for Paul's CD DVD set. I'm going back there someday,
• 57:09
  Joe. This.
• 57:11
  It doesn't really count as a celebrity.
• 57:13
  I just know that he was on this album.
• 57:14
  Is it Gonzo? It is not Gonzo.
• 57:17
  This is an actual famous musician.
• 57:20
  Can I can make a second guess just because I know this person
• 57:22
  has sung the song many times? Is it Willie Nelson?
• 57:26
  It is Willie Nelson, Yes. Cuz Willie Nelson kind of almost
• 57:30
  had a hit with with that song. Sure, Yeah.
• 57:35
  So I guess I'll open up the floor here.
• 57:38
  Since neither of you got it when you initially buzzed in, so buzz
• 57:41
  in. If you know there are actually 2
• 57:44
  songs that Willie Nelson has performed with the Electric
• 57:46
  Mayhem, buzz in to name at least one of them Joe.
• 57:55
  Do they sing on the road again? They do.
• 57:57
  They do sing on the road again. Well, the other one, I don't
• 58:02
  think I will even be able to guess.
• 58:03
  Turn on the Blank. I'm Willie Nelson songs.
• 58:07
  Is is it a Willie Nelson song? I believe so.
• 58:10
  I didn't write that down, but I will check because I can cheat.
• 58:15
  The only other Willie Nelson song I can think of is Rainbow
• 58:17
  Connection. It is a Willie Nelson song.
• 58:20
  I thought I had it. I do not.
• 58:22
  It is Angel flying too close to the ground.
• 58:25
  They perform it in the credits tag of the episode generally
• 58:30
  inhospitable, which is the episode that Willie Nelson
• 58:33
  appears on. How did you not know that, Dave?
• 58:37
  Geez, Dave. You could have said that about
• 58:39
  literally every question. Question 8 Alongside her
• 58:46
  daughter Tracee Ellis Ross, she sang Picture A World on Sesame
• 58:51
  Street Joe Diana. Ross, that is Diana Ross.
• 59:03
  Diana Ross appeared on an early episode, early, early Ish, I
• 59:06
  mean. Sesame Street's been on for 54
• 59:08
  years, but appeared in in an earlier episode of Sesame Street
• 59:11
  and Tracee Ellis Ross appears as one of the kids in that episode
• 59:16
  because she was a very young child, so she's just one of the
• 59:19
  kids in the crowd singing with Diana Ross Joe.
• 59:24
  There are two songs that the Mayhem performs with Diana Ross.
• 59:27
  Can you name at least one of them?
• 59:30
  Well, I know on the Diana Ross episode, So they sing, reach out
• 59:33
  and touch somebody's hand. I don't know if mayhem's in that
• 59:37
  or not. The mayhem is not, at least not
• 59:40
  by my count. I will double check because I've
• 59:41
  been listen now I now I feel like I'm going to be wrong about
• 59:45
  everything. But no.
• 59:47
  I mean, Janice and Floyd are singing, but it's not.
• 59:50
  Yeah, that doesn't count. No, no.
• 59:52
  It's one of those, just like every puppet that we had on hand
• 59:56
  is around Diana Ross numbers. On hand?
• 1:00:00
  That's a puppet joke. That's true.
• 1:00:03
  Like, I wouldn't call that a Beauregard number either.
• 1:00:09
  I mean, I could picture, like, the way that she's singing the
• 1:00:12
  song, you know? Like, I could picture what she
• 1:00:15
  looks like on stage without, you know, really spending like a 10
• 1:00:20
  minutes of thinking time. I'm probably not gonna remember.
• 1:00:23
  Dave, any guesses? Is it last time I saw?
• 1:00:26
  Her. It is last time I well, last
• 1:00:28
  time I saw him. But.
• 1:00:29
  Last time I saw him. It's Okay.
• 1:00:33
  Yeah, they they they change it obviously and.
• 1:00:36
  That song and the ending of that song is just the way I don't
• 1:00:41
  know that Lips is playing it, but even the way the trump goes
• 1:00:44
  down, Da da da da da da da da da from a from a brass standpoint.
• 1:00:53
  Can you name the other one? Because there was actually
• 1:00:54
  another one that I would have counted.
• 1:00:56
  Oh. I can see it, but I can't hear
• 1:00:58
  it. Oh I'm sorry.
• 1:00:59
  It's not in the episode. It's it's not I had I had it
• 1:01:02
  written wrong here. God, I just keep making
• 1:01:05
  mistakes. I this is like is this my first
• 1:01:08
  time hosting A Hobo Wah? The Muppet Movie Podcast brought
• 1:01:11
  to you Wait, is this my first time hosting Hobo Wah, a Muppet
• 1:01:17
  Quiz product? Sounds like it.
• 1:01:22
  Don't don't quit my day job. I just keep making mistakes.
• 1:01:26
  Is this my first time hosting Hobowa?
• 1:01:29
  A Muppet Quiz Show podcast brought to you by toughpigs.com
• 1:01:32
  Look Becca. Everyone makes mistakes.
• 1:01:34
  Do do, do, do, do do do do do do.
• 1:01:39
  I had written down feelings, but that's Beaker singing lead in
• 1:01:43
  the Diana Ross episode, not Diana Ross.
• 1:01:49
  Maybe Diana Ross performed Beaker in that scene.
• 1:01:52
  We don't know. She didn't question question
• 1:01:59
  nine. He famously performed Larry of
• 1:02:03
  Larry and Phyllis in Season 2 of Sesame Street, or I guess also
• 1:02:08
  more famously, the Muppet Studios tour guide in The
• 1:02:11
  Muppets 2011 film. Joe knows this one.
• 1:02:19
  Joe, that is Oscar winner Alan Arkin.
• 1:02:23
  It is Oscar winner Alan Arkin. The late Alan Arkin.
• 1:02:27
  I knew that, but I didn't realize.
• 1:02:29
  Is he a musician? No, but he sang a song with the
• 1:02:32
  mayhem. Ah jeez Louise, I'm like, that's
• 1:02:35
  Alan Arkin. But he doesn't sing, does he?
• 1:02:38
  Now he does sang in that one Larry and Phyllis sketch.
• 1:02:41
  Remember that. No, I don't.
• 1:02:43
  He goes. He goes.
• 1:02:44
  Aroom. Beep Beep.
• 1:02:49
  Beep. Beep, he goes.
• 1:02:49
  That's, that's singing. That's singing, Phyllis.
• 1:02:52
  I guarantee that even our listeners to this podcast do not
• 1:03:00
  know what you're talking about. When it comes to Larry and
• 1:03:02
  Phyllis, Well, listen. Actually, don't listen to me.
• 1:03:06
  Just. Move on.
• 1:03:08
  Do you know what song he sang with with With the Mayhem?
• 1:03:12
  I don't. I'm not as familiar with this
• 1:03:13
  episode because this is a season five one, if I'm not mistaken,
• 1:03:17
  season four or five. It's one of those like it wasn't
• 1:03:19
  on DVD and therefore I saw it a couple of times, but I didn't
• 1:03:23
  see it over and over and over again.
• 1:03:25
  It is. It is Season 4, which is why I'm
• 1:03:28
  not familiar with it. Because I know, right?
• 1:03:31
  The DVD episodes in season five, which I had most of taped as a
• 1:03:35
  child, yeah. But it is the Pig shuffle.
• 1:03:40
  An original song written by Alan Arkin and performed by him and
• 1:03:44
  the Electric Mayhem about the life of a pig wallowing in the
• 1:03:49
  mud. Piggy gets angry about it and
• 1:03:52
  Karate chops Alan Arkin. You know, I was gonna guess The
• 1:03:56
  pigs Shuffle, an original song by Alan Arkin and the Electric
• 1:04:00
  Mayhem singing about a pig that gets caught in the mud and the
• 1:04:02
  Speedy gets mad at them and Karate chops him.
• 1:04:04
  But I thought no, that's a little too specific.
• 1:04:09
  All right. Next question.
• 1:04:11
  He once gave a Ted talk about how puppets like The Muppets
• 1:04:15
  were superior to CGI creations. This is kind of a trick
• 1:04:19
  question, Joe. If this is the trick, then I'm
• 1:04:24
  going to be very upset. Is it Kermit the Frog?
• 1:04:27
  It is not Kermit the Frog, but you're close in your trick.
• 1:04:31
  Yeah, I had a 5050 shot with this one.
• 1:04:33
  I'll let Dave run with it, knowing what I know about Ted
• 1:04:37
  talks. Would it be Steve?
• 1:04:40
  No, it's a it's it's scooter. The correct answer is Scooter.
• 1:04:46
  That was the 5050 shot. I mean they both gave Ted talks.
• 1:04:49
  I just can't remember. Yeah, I.
• 1:04:51
  Didn't know Scooter gave a Ted talk.
• 1:04:53
  You can. You can watch it.
• 1:04:56
  There's a full like head talk that he gave specifically about
• 1:05:01
  why puppets are better than than CGI.
• 1:05:06
  There are two songs that a scooter performed with the
• 1:05:09
  Electric Mayhem where Scooter sang lead on an Electric Mayhem
• 1:05:14
  song. I guess buzz in because there we
• 1:05:17
  go, Dave. Mr. Baseman.
• 1:05:20
  Mr. Baseman is one. I will give you 3 points for
• 1:05:23
  that, Dave. Can you name the other one?
• 1:05:29
  I was gonna say act naturally. But that's not Scooter.
• 1:05:31
  No, that's Ganza. No, I don't have it.
• 1:05:35
  Show you must know this one. You showed it at the Muppet
• 1:05:38
  Vault a bunch. I'm sure I did.
• 1:05:41
  It's Six String orchestra it. Is 6 string orchestra.
• 1:05:45
  Another great song. Yep.
• 1:05:50
  K Question 11 We're almost done with this round.
• 1:05:52
  Question 11 in season one of Sesame Street, this R&B singer
• 1:05:57
  became one of the show's earliest celebrity guests when
• 1:06:01
  he sang The Alphabet. According to the old school DVD
• 1:06:05
  box set, he initially refused to use cue cards, but then changed
• 1:06:10
  his mind when he realized he couldn't remember the order of
• 1:06:14
  the letters. Joe, that is Lou.
• 1:06:22
  Rawls, that is Lou Rawls. I I almost buzzed in and said
• 1:06:27
  Stevie Wonder, until you until you started talking about the
• 1:06:30
  cue card. Yeah.
• 1:06:30
  No, that doesn't make any sense. Yeah, he had Braille cue cards.
• 1:06:35
  He just had a very long arm. Joe, What song did Lou Rawls
• 1:06:39
  perform with the Electric Mayhem?
• 1:06:42
  Is it multiple songs? I feel like he did more than one
• 1:06:44
  in this episode. I'm only seeing one by my count.
• 1:06:49
  OK. That that helps that Narles
• 1:06:51
  o'donne a little bit. You think I'd know.
• 1:06:54
  I reviewed this episode for toughpigs.com and I also was on
• 1:07:01
  this episode of Muppetergy where we talked about this episode.
• 1:07:04
  So oh, I'm sorry. Oh my goodness, did I did I play
• 1:07:08
  on this episode or what? It's two songs.
• 1:07:12
  It is 2 songs. OK, all right.
• 1:07:15
  Well, I know he's saying that the title is coming to me,
• 1:07:18
  that's why I'm stalling. But it's the one that he's
• 1:07:20
  saying at the end of his talk spot with Kermit and the
• 1:07:25
  characters come out and he starts singing about birds.
• 1:07:28
  He does. And then it leads into title of
• 1:07:31
  song, which is coming right now out of my brain, through my
• 1:07:37
  mouth. I can't think of it.
• 1:07:40
  Can't think of it. He also does the He also does
• 1:07:45
  the closing number with Miss Piggy.
• 1:07:47
  Yeah, I I I mean, I could picture him singing a song that
• 1:07:52
  does not have the Electric Mayhem in it.
• 1:07:54
  He sings groovy people. I can't think of the other songs
• 1:07:58
  he sings on that episode though. Dave, any idea?
• 1:08:01
  Oh, I just got it. Go for it then.
• 1:08:04
  I do. Come late.
• 1:08:06
  Bye bye Blackbird. Bye Bye Blackbird is that song.
• 1:08:09
  That is not the closing number. That's the one from the top.
• 1:08:12
  Yeah, that's not the closing number.
• 1:08:13
  I can't, can't remember that one.
• 1:08:16
  That one is you're the one. And the last question in this
• 1:08:22
  round and one that I know I have the right number of answers to
• 1:08:28
  on The Muppets ABC sitcom Miss Piggy wore a mouse outfit
• 1:08:32
  inspired by something this musician wore to the 2013 MTV
• 1:08:37
  Music Awards. Dave.
• 1:08:44
  I'm going to say dead mouse. Not dead Mouse.
• 1:08:47
  Good guess, Joe. Lady Gaga.
• 1:08:51
  It is not Lady Gaga. It is, of course, Miley Cyrus.
• 1:08:55
  Let's do a buzz in again. What song did the Electric
• 1:08:58
  Mayhem perform with Miley Cyrus in the special studio DC Almost
• 1:09:02
  live. I quit.
• 1:09:06
  You can't quit. You're producing this, Dave.
• 1:09:13
  Dave chived in. Dave, do you know?
• 1:09:16
  I didn't see this, but I'd have to take a guess.
• 1:09:19
  It's got to be party in the USA. It is not, you'd think.
• 1:09:22
  Huh. Part of the USA, I feel like
• 1:09:24
  came after the special. I was going to say this might
• 1:09:26
  have been pre party in the USA. I can't believe you guys don't.
• 1:09:29
  First of all that you haven't rewatched this special every
• 1:09:31
  year and secondly that you don't know your early Miley Cyrus
• 1:09:36
  discography, like back when she was still Hannah Montana.
• 1:09:40
  You don't know that the song is obviously called GNO Girls Night
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  Out Oh. I did not get out.
• 1:09:49
  Oh, sure, no, I knew. I knew it the whole time.
• 1:09:53
  That's the one where she doesn't want to play with the Electric
• 1:09:56
  Mayhem because she thinks that they are weird.
• 1:09:59
  And then Rizzo and Pepe convince her that they are superstars who
• 1:10:03
  have played with people such as Garth Brooks and Prince and
• 1:10:07
  Elton John. And you will note that only one
• 1:10:10
  of those is true. Because they did not play with
• 1:10:14
  Garth Brooks and Prince. Because only Floyd played with
• 1:10:18
  Garth Brooks and none of the Electric Mayhem appear in the
• 1:10:21
  Prince episode. Amazing.
• 1:10:23
  Anyway, so look, we can't, we can't, we can't get any worse
• 1:10:27
  than ending with a reference to Studio DC almost live.
• 1:10:30
  So you are correct, we're going to move into our Stump, the host
• 1:10:36
  game, the anything in the World Prize game.
• 1:10:40
  Now today I've been stumped a lot by things that I wrote down,
• 1:10:44
  so maybe stumping me isn't going to be so hard.
• 1:10:48
  But in this round, you guys will be able to ask me anything in
• 1:10:51
  the world about the electric mayhem.
• 1:10:53
  If you stump me, you'll earn 15 points.
• 1:10:57
  So let's start with Dave. You can ask me anything in the
• 1:11:01
  world. So I wanted to come up with
• 1:11:06
  something that was unique. So I wrote to all of our good
• 1:11:10
  friend Jamie Carroll and I said, hey, hook me up with the
• 1:11:14
  Palisades Electric Mayhem type question.
• 1:11:18
  And after he wrote a 32 page dissertation on exactly what
• 1:11:24
  that should be. We love you, Jamie.
• 1:11:29
  Never change. Absolutely.
• 1:11:31
  I got to get Jamie. I got to get Jamie on this show,
• 1:11:33
  that's for certain. I'll say every time I bust
• 1:11:35
  Jamie's chops it is followed with I made a documentary about
• 1:11:39
  how wonderful he is so I can get away with it.
• 1:11:44
  But Speaking of the Palisades Muppets toy line, which two
• 1:11:50
  Mayhem members received more than one version or variance?
• 1:11:56
  So. All of them.
• 1:11:58
  Not all of them, but name 2 Mayhem members that received
• 1:12:02
  more than one variant or version.
• 1:12:05
  I think I know this. So one of them is animal because
• 1:12:10
  there was a bunch. There was like the Palisades
• 1:12:12
  Collectors Club one. There was a giant animal that
• 1:12:16
  they made as well. Is the other doctor teeth.
• 1:12:22
  No, and I would have thought that too.
• 1:12:24
  But the answer is, according to Jamie Carroll, actually lips.
• 1:12:28
  That was my second guess, because I remember there were a
• 1:12:31
  couple of different Lips outfits for some reason.
• 1:12:34
  And I also knew that there were a couple of repaints of the Java
• 1:12:39
  that came with him because for some reason Lips was packaged
• 1:12:43
  with Java. I guess that's a trumpet song,
• 1:12:45
  right? So yeah, maybe Lips was playing
• 1:12:48
  Java this whole time back in, you know, on The Tonight Show or
• 1:12:51
  whatever, when they. Ed Sullivan show when they
• 1:12:54
  performed it, but no, that counts.
• 1:12:56
  So Dave, you have earned 15 points.
• 1:12:59
  Joe, do you have a question for me?
• 1:13:02
  Sure do. I'm so tempted to give you a
• 1:13:06
  question that would be actually impossible for you to to know
• 1:13:09
  off the top of your head, But I'm going with one that I think
• 1:13:12
  that you might have come across in your research for this
• 1:13:15
  episode. You know, just trying to be fair
• 1:13:21
  and maybe people at home will will know the answer to.
• 1:13:24
  So from 2016 to 2023, the Electric Mayhem got around
• 1:13:28
  primarily in their custom van. In that time 2 celebrities have
• 1:13:34
  joined the band inside the van. Can you name them?
• 1:13:39
  And I I am not counting, you know, like Lilly Singh and Sara
• 1:13:45
  Chaudhry. And that was about the cast of
• 1:13:46
  my celebrities. Yeah, yeah, no, not that the
• 1:13:50
  two, two celebrities have been inside the van.
• 1:13:54
  Do you know who they? Are OK.
• 1:13:55
  Here's one that I do know for a fact is Kristin Chenoweth.
• 1:13:58
  That episode of The Muppets ABC sitcom is very awkward and I do
• 1:14:02
  not like it. It's the one where Kristin
• 1:14:05
  Chenoweth kind of gets forced into going on a road trip with
• 1:14:07
  them and the mayhem all fight with each other over who gets to
• 1:14:12
  date Janice. It's weird.
• 1:14:15
  I don't care for it, but you are correct.
• 1:14:17
  I remember correct both both with about Kristen Chenoweth and
• 1:14:21
  about how weird that episode is James.
• 1:14:27
  Corden, that's a great guess. And you are.
• 1:14:30
  Don't you don't know how close you are?
• 1:14:32
  Because the answer is Jason Sudeikis.
• 1:14:36
  Because they did an episode of Carpool Karaoke, James Corden's.
• 1:14:40
  That's what I was thinking of. That's what I was thinking of,
• 1:14:43
  but it was Jason Sudeikis. I knew that there was an episode
• 1:14:47
  of Carpool Karaoke in it, but I never watched that episode
• 1:14:50
  because it was like, didn't you have to, like, pay extra for it
• 1:14:53
  or something? Yeah, or like it was.
• 1:14:57
  I wanna say it was like on Apple TV before.
• 1:14:59
  Apple TV was like a thing that people subscribed to.
• 1:15:02
  Like you had to pay for like, their two TV shows.
• 1:15:05
  Yeah, now I have Apple TV because there's a decent amount
• 1:15:08
  of stuff like, but I didn't. Then including Frank Rock, No.
• 1:15:12
  OK. Well, I mean, I was close, but
• 1:15:15
  but no, you were with both of you.
• 1:15:18
  I got, I got pretty close, but not what we were looking for.
• 1:15:23
  And now talk amongst yourselves while I do some math.
• 1:15:28
  While you're doing that, you want to hear my other question.
• 1:15:31
  Here's my harder question I was going to ask in case that one
• 1:15:33
  came up in the in the game, in The Muppets Mayhem, the band
• 1:15:37
  sings the song Have a Little Faith in Me, recorded by Joe
• 1:15:40
  Cocker, The show goes out of its way to tell the audience it's a
• 1:15:44
  Joe Cocker song, but it's not a Joe Cocker song.
• 1:15:46
  It's a cover. Who sang the original version?
• 1:15:50
  I don't know. I I knew that it wasn't a Joe
• 1:15:54
  Cocker song. I did know that because I looked
• 1:15:57
  this up around when the episode was airing.
• 1:15:59
  I was. I was like, yeah, John Hyatt is
• 1:16:03
  the guy's name. I don't know anything else about
• 1:16:04
  him. No, you.
• 1:16:05
  Do know something else about John Hyatt?
• 1:16:07
  Do you do you do. That's.
• 1:16:09
  I should have remembered John Hyatt.
• 1:16:11
  You know plenty about John Hyatt.
• 1:16:13
  I'm getting excited because John Hyatt wrote and performed the
• 1:16:18
  songs for the Jim Henson Company picture.
• 1:16:24
  The country bears? Really.
• 1:16:27
  Wow. He is the lead singer of the
• 1:16:30
  Country Bears. Wow, that is an insane, I love,
• 1:16:35
  I love Muppet Connections, where it's like there's this one thing
• 1:16:37
  where there's a Muppet Connections, this other thing
• 1:16:39
  that's the Muppet connection, and they actually triangulate
• 1:16:44
  into three things. I don't.
• 1:16:46
  I don't have his character here by my desk, but is he only the
• 1:16:52
  singing voice or? Is he one of the single voices
• 1:16:54
  too? I believe he's only the singing
• 1:16:55
  voice. That's amazing.
• 1:16:57
  Like Dwayne Allman or whoever that was.
• 1:17:00
  I'm just learning there's country bear figures.
• 1:17:03
  Yeah, they were McDonald's tie and like, Happy Meal toys.
• 1:17:08
  Yeah, any day now McFarlane is going to start making highly
• 1:17:11
  detailed Country Bears action figures.
• 1:17:14
  I'm ready. Hold on.
• 1:17:16
  Yeah. Anyway, no, I'm keeping that in.
• 1:17:19
  Nice. Great.
• 1:17:22
  OK, so it's looking like let me just 1020304050.
• 1:17:28
  Yes, it's looking like I'm on the edge of my seat.
• 1:17:31
  Well, listen, I need to know how many points you each have.
• 1:17:34
  And so our point total right now, right?
• 1:17:37
  It's still anybody's game because we are into our final
• 1:17:40
  game. Say the word.
• 1:17:43
  In this game, you can wager any amount of points.
• 1:17:47
  The winner gets those points and the loser loses that.
• 1:17:50
  You will get to hear the questions before you wager.
• 1:17:55
  So assuming my math is correct, which I don't, it looks like
• 1:18:02
  Dave, you have 59 points and Joe you have 92 points.
• 1:18:12
  So that's how much you have to bet, so.
• 1:18:15
  I am going to ask you a multi part question.
• 1:18:18
  Whoever gets more of these answers correct will win back
• 1:18:24
  their bet. You do not have to get all of
• 1:18:26
  these answers correct, you just have to get more of them
• 1:18:31
  correct. So here's the question in an
• 1:18:35
  episode of the Muppet Christmas Carol season of Tough Pigs.
• 1:18:38
  Moving Right Along podcast. I mentioned Michael Frith's
• 1:18:43
  original design sketch for Doctor Teeth.
• 1:18:46
  You know, the one. It's the one where he's called
• 1:18:49
  Leon. Dr. Elton John, Don't shoot the
• 1:18:51
  piano player. Well, on that episode I was
• 1:18:55
  slightly misinformed because Michael Frith did not draw the
• 1:19:00
  first sketch of Doctor Teeth. In fact, before that sketch.
• 1:19:07
  A different artist drew a design sketch for the character who
• 1:19:11
  would one day become Doctor Teeth.
• 1:19:14
  This sketch inspired Frith's sketch, which would of course
• 1:19:19
  lead to the puppet that Don Celine would build.
• 1:19:23
  Three questions about that 1973 sketch number one, which
• 1:19:29
  cartoonist drew the original Doctor Teeth sketch question 2.
• 1:19:36
  What was Doctor Teeth named at the time?
• 1:19:40
  And question three. What other important Muppet
• 1:19:44
  reference material did this cartoonist draw in that same
• 1:19:49
  year, 1973? Joe, you're on a podcast about
• 1:19:54
  this. Don't give me that face.
• 1:19:55
  You should know everything about the Electric Mayhem.
• 1:19:58
  I should I I I have thoughts that I cannot say out loud.
• 1:20:04
  So we'll let's. Let's figure out what.
• 1:20:07
  We're doing here. You don't have to get all three
• 1:20:08
  right. Whoever gets more of these
• 1:20:10
  questions right will get the points.
• 1:20:13
  So if Dave gets one and Joe gets zero, then Dave still is
• 1:20:18
  considered to have gotten it correct.
• 1:20:20
  What other Muppet reference material had this cartoonist
• 1:20:23
  drawn in that same year? Holy crap, Becca.
• 1:20:28
  I know. Listen, 1973 is.
• 1:20:31
  That right, 1973. You can't get as many right as
• 1:20:35
  you can. I'm, I'm guessing a lot on here.
• 1:20:43
  There's a tough one, Becca. Well done.
• 1:20:45
  See, listen, one of the things that it's it's been tricky.
• 1:20:49
  I'm trying to make these like somewhat possible and I will say
• 1:20:54
  one of you did get more of these right than the other, so that
• 1:20:59
  means it wasn't impossible. But it's tough because one of
• 1:21:05
  the things I found is people know that I look at Muppet Wiki
• 1:21:08
  for these ants for these questions, and some people have
• 1:21:11
  been coming this season prepared, having read what feel
• 1:21:14
  like relevant articles on Muppet Wiki.
• 1:21:17
  So I got to click through and like, keep going, which is how I
• 1:21:21
  got that third part. Because like, even if you read
• 1:21:24
  the Doctor Teeth page on Muppet Wiki, you weren't going to see
• 1:21:28
  that third part unless you kept clicking.
• 1:21:32
  I will say I did a lot of my own research here and nothing that I
• 1:21:35
  research came up great. Not one thing so.
• 1:21:39
  I I had. I had.
• 1:21:40
  I listened to Backstage Pass almost every episode except for
• 1:21:46
  maybe the the most recent one that came out.
• 1:21:48
  Because you hate Dave Goles so little.
• 1:21:50
  Like you were like not listening to anything that Guy is talking
• 1:21:54
  on. And and then I had a couple.
• 1:22:00
  Episodes of just The Muppet Show playing in the background only
• 1:22:04
  to realize I was too busy working to actually pay
• 1:22:06
  attention to any of it. So yeah, not helpful.
• 1:22:10
  So I'm like, I'm like back in high school.
• 1:22:12
  I'm like this is how I study. Didn't work then.
• 1:22:15
  No reason why it should work now.
• 1:22:16
  You had 59 points, you got you got some things correct.
• 1:22:21
  So let's start with Dave. Dave, what cartoonist did you
• 1:22:26
  say drew the original sketch of Doctor Teeth?
• 1:22:30
  So I I'm wondering if if you were trying to throw people off
• 1:22:35
  with specifically using the word cartoonist or if or if it was
• 1:22:42
  just a nomenclature that you decided to use, but I just took
• 1:22:45
  a while guess and said it was Jim, Jim Henson.
• 1:22:49
  It is not Jim Henson, but that is a good guess.
• 1:22:52
  Unfortunately, I wasn't trying to be that evil.
• 1:22:55
  But also, Jim Henson once taught me how to doodle.
• 1:22:58
  Whatever's in my noodle to be a cartoonist is fun in the
• 1:23:02
  Playhouse video. Wow, you're a cartoonist.
• 1:23:05
  So it could have been right? But it's not Question two, What
• 1:23:12
  was Doctor Teeth named at the time?
• 1:23:14
  Dave, what did you guess for that?
• 1:23:16
  I guessed who I've heard he was based on, and I've put Dr. John.
• 1:23:22
  Good guess. He he is based on Dr. John, but
• 1:23:26
  that was not his name at the time.
• 1:23:29
  And I said what important Muppet reference material did this
• 1:23:33
  cartoonist draw in that same year?
• 1:23:36
  You guessed. I decided to try and go 3 for
• 1:23:40
  three for wrong and I put animal.
• 1:23:42
  Yeah, no, did not. Did not design reference
• 1:23:45
  material for animal, but good guess.
• 1:23:49
  You bet. 34 points and unfortunately you lose 34
• 1:23:53
  points, bringing you down to 25 points.
• 1:23:57
  Joe, you guessed. For the cartoonist name, you
• 1:24:02
  guessed I guessed Dave Altine Junior.
• 1:24:05
  A great, a great guess, A great guess, Dave.
• 1:24:09
  Dave, how old were you in 1973? I was -5.
• 1:24:14
  OK, that's what I thought. That's what I thought.
• 1:24:16
  So no. OK, got it.
• 1:24:19
  I'm. Saying I'm saying I'm missing a
• 1:24:21
  lot of residuals if. Well, the correct answer is Bob
• 1:24:27
  Taylor, the cartoonist Bob Taylor drew that first Doctor
• 1:24:33
  Teeth sketch. What was Doctor Teeth named at
• 1:24:37
  the time? Joe, you said this.
• 1:24:40
  This is the only one that I knew for sure.
• 1:24:42
  He was called the Boogeyman. He was called the Boogeyman.
• 1:24:46
  You are correct. He was called the Boogeyman.
• 1:24:50
  So this Bob Taylor sketch of him was labeled as the Boogeyman
• 1:24:58
  and. Question three, what other
• 1:25:01
  important Muppet reference material did this cartoonist
• 1:25:04
  draw in the same year? You said I I just made a guess
• 1:25:09
  as to like who debuted around the same time and I said the
• 1:25:11
  Swedish Chef. Yeah, so I actually I meant
• 1:25:15
  reference material. When I said reference material,
• 1:25:18
  I didn't mean design sketch of a character because that same
• 1:25:23
  year. Bob Taylor drew the first Sesame
• 1:25:28
  Street style guide, the one that's on display at the Museum
• 1:25:33
  of the Moving Image. The original Sesame Street style
• 1:25:37
  guide from 1973 was drawn by Bob Taylor.
• 1:25:41
  That's. Super cool.
• 1:25:42
  Wow, That is cool. And and this sketch of Doctor
• 1:25:45
  Teeth that we're referencing here, where he's called The
• 1:25:47
  Boogeyman, is also or usually on display at the Museum of the
• 1:25:52
  Moving Image. So that's cool that he's got so
• 1:25:56
  much of his work up in the museum where it belongs.
• 1:25:59
  Yeah, no listen, we've got some scans of that 1973 style guide
• 1:26:03
  on Muppet wiki. I'm not gonna post a link
• 1:26:06
  because that would spoil the answer to this question, but.
• 1:26:10
  If you saw my link on social media before you listen to this
• 1:26:12
  episode, but you should check it out.
• 1:26:15
  That art is fabulous. And again, you know, before 1973
• 1:26:20
  there was really no standard way to draw the Sesame Street
• 1:26:22
  Muppets. And you can tell looking at
• 1:26:25
  merchandise from before 1973 that that was the case.
• 1:26:29
  That's why it all looks so cool. I love it.
• 1:26:31
  But you can tell that there was no style guide before 1973.
• 1:26:37
  So yeah. Again, a true A true Henson art
• 1:26:42
  legend. Joe, based on my rules, you have
• 1:26:46
  earned back your 27 points, bringing you to 119 points, so
• 1:26:56
  almost 100 points more than Dave.
• 1:26:58
  But you know what? Dave will always will always be
• 1:27:02
  a legend around these parts. I'm.
• 1:27:04
  Just here for the fun. Yeah.
• 1:27:06
  And Joe, you are, of course, our winner and today's toughest pig.
• 1:27:11
  Yay. I feel a little.
• 1:27:13
  I feel a little slighted going up against the editor in chief.
• 1:27:18
  It's not even that I'm in the editor in chief.
• 1:27:20
  I always tell people like I don't remember things so well.
• 1:27:23
  I'm still a human being who's getting older by the day.
• 1:27:26
  But I did just finish a podcast all about the Electric Mayhem,
• 1:27:30
  so that may have been a little unfair, but you, you still
• 1:27:35
  agreed to be here. It's on you, Dave.
• 1:27:37
  That's true. It's your fault.
• 1:27:39
  Heavily on me. I warned you.
• 1:27:41
  I think I even told you that Joe would be your opponent when when
• 1:27:45
  I brought my friend Alicia from Sesame history on, I didn't warn
• 1:27:50
  her in advance that Ryan Rowe would be her opponent.
• 1:27:53
  And well, folks, you'll you'll have heard how that goes.
• 1:27:57
  But Alicia was a great sport and had a lot of fun.
• 1:28:00
  My opponent could have been a bowl of dried fruit and I
• 1:28:02
  probably still would have lost. But I like I said I I came on
• 1:28:06
  because I want to hang out with with the two of you.
• 1:28:08
  Well, I really appreciate it Joe.
• 1:28:12
  You win your choice of prizes, as you know.
• 1:28:16
  So your choices are as follows. You could choose to win some
• 1:28:21
  dental floss or this. So I started doing these little
• 1:28:26
  like art. Card things instead of doing
• 1:28:30
  magnets, because I got kind of tired of doing magnets.
• 1:28:33
  So I've got a little art card here of lips.
• 1:28:37
  And he's wearing a hovelot tshirt.
• 1:28:41
  That's great. Well, yes he is.
• 1:28:43
  I'll take the floss. OK.
• 1:28:45
  I'm just kidding. No, I don't want the floss.
• 1:28:47
  I want the lips. Yes, thank you.
• 1:28:49
  No. Very exciting.
• 1:28:51
  I will definitely send that your way and you can get FLOSS at
• 1:28:55
  pretty much any any. Like grocery store or pharmacy.
• 1:29:02
  I mean, look, God bless you for thinking that I floss.
• 1:29:05
  You got to floss. You got to floss.
• 1:29:09
  I'm calling up Bill Beretta right now to tell him to tell
• 1:29:13
  Doctor Teeth that you don't fall on me to Bill Beretta.
• 1:29:18
  Come on. Every time I do something wrong,
• 1:29:20
  you're like, I'm going to call Bill Beretta and tell him what
• 1:29:22
  you did. Well, that brings us to the end
• 1:29:28
  of another one. So guess where can people find
• 1:29:31
  you if you wish to be found? Let's start with Dave.
• 1:29:36
  You can follow me on Instagram and XI guess it's called at Dave
• 1:29:40
  Whole Team when I get to when I get a chance to post stuff and I
• 1:29:46
  try and post as much Muppet art as I possibly can.
• 1:29:49
  Your Muppet art is extremely good.
• 1:29:51
  I feel like we said that. But let me just, you know, make
• 1:29:54
  sure that I'm getting a nice clean take of that.
• 1:29:57
  Your Muppet art is really good. I appreciate that it's it's the
• 1:30:02
  most inspiring and fun thing to be able to draw.
• 1:30:07
  I agree. Joe, where can people find you
• 1:30:11
  if you wish to be found? Well, you're probably gonna
• 1:30:15
  mention all of the tough pigs social stuff in a moment, so I
• 1:30:18
  will let you run with that. But.
• 1:30:20
  Wow. It's like, you know my script.
• 1:30:23
  It's like I've listened to the show before.
• 1:30:25
  If you want to find me. Personally, I don't post as much
• 1:30:30
  because social media will rot our brains.
• 1:30:33
  But I'm on Twitter at Joe Henness.
• 1:30:36
  I'm on Instagram at Tough Pigs Joe, and I'm usually hanging out
• 1:30:45
  at the pizza place out on the corner.
• 1:30:47
  So if you want to share a slice with me, come find me.
• 1:30:50
  It'd be great to meet you. All right.
• 1:30:51
  Well. Hey, that feels like a great
• 1:30:53
  setup for me to start plugging some tough pigs stuff.
• 1:30:57
  Tough pigs, as I say now on every podcast, tough pigs
• 1:31:02
  websites. Been around 22 years. 22 years
• 1:31:06
  longer than any social media website.
• 1:31:08
  So the one place I can guarantee that you will find
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  usistoughpigs.com. You can also find tough pigs on
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  social media for now. Twitter, Instagram, Blue Sky,
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  YouTube, TikTok. You got a Tik.
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  Right, Joe, you've got a TikTok. A great tough pigs.
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  Well we we have a TikTok we share it that all of us have the
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  tough pigs team. I just happened to be the old
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  one. Who uses it.
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  Yes, poorly uses it. Poorly, I should say.
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  Anyway, at Tough Pigs there you can also find
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  us.ofcourse@toughpigs.com. You can if you like our work,
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  you could consider donating to the Tough Pigs Patreon where you
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  can get some exclusive free stuff as well.
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  We have Tough Pigs T-shirts for sale on.
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  The Tough Pigs T public page includes some cool stuff, some
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  Hubble Wash shirts, and hey, I'll plug it.
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  Just came out when we're recording.
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  This just came out yesterday or two days ago.
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  A brand new Muppets Mayhem inspired shirt of Lips's Tutter
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  St. Trumpet Company Shirt from
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  Muppets Mayhem. You could get it.
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  You could wear it. You could be a chrysanthemum.
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  If you want to find me separate from tough pig stuff, I am still
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  on Twitter. Not as much as I used to, but
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  still on Twitter at Uncle Petunia.
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  That's Petunia with an O I'm on every other social media website
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  that isn't Twitter at tall Girl Petunia.
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  That is Petunia with an A. Not confusing at all.
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  So I'd like to thank some people for helping out.
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  I'd like to thank both of our guests again, I can't thank you
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  enough. It really is always a pleasure,
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  you know, talking, talking to Muppet fans.
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  I do want to thank myself for writing, editing, producing and
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  hosting this show. I want to thank Stacy Rosen for
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  writing the theme music to this show.
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  Thanks to Richard Gomez for doing the host artwork for the
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  show. Thanks to, I don't know, some
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  jerk named Joe Hennis. For being the tough pigs, Muppet
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  fan, Podcast, executive producer, whatever that is.
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  And thanks to, someone's got to executively produce this thing.
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  I know now, Joe. Joe helps out a ton with this
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  podcast stuff. I can't.
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  I can't thank him enough for that.
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  And I do want to thank Katie Lynn Miller for doing
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  transcripts for this show. And of course, I want to thank
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  Nora for helping to get the Electric Mayhem to finally
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  record an album. If you want to hear about that
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  story, there's a place you can find out.
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  And lastly, thanks to all of you at home for being with us on
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  Habowa, The Muppet Quiz Show. And as always, don't mess with
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  animal. He eats Glass Man.
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  Animal again. Gets like this when he.
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  Had to have his nap. One thing.
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  One thing? Yeah.
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  Time for NUM Nums in the nap. Fuck.
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  Tired. Yeah.
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  SMS Khan.