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The Liam Coen Show | July 31, 2025 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida,
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Speaker 1: JP Shadwick and Jeff Logoman. Keep you informed in up
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Speaker 1: to date with the head coach of Jorge Jacksonville Jaguars.
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Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show starts right now.
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Speaker 2: Welcome in The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from
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Speaker 2: Florida from the Hyundai Studios at the Miller Electric Center.
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Speaker 2: We're on the Jaguars Radio Network, presented by the University
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Speaker 2: of Florida, number one university in the US News and
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Speaker 2: World Reports, number one state for education. JP Shadrick with
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Speaker 2: Jeff Logoman, we'll have the head coach, Liam Cohen. At
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Speaker 2: the start of the regular season, and now for the
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Speaker 2: second consecutive week. Just in the nick of time, Tony Vasselli,
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Speaker 2: James Gladstone in studio with us. It was so popular
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Speaker 2: last week we had to do it again. Tony.
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Speaker 3: Two rules, Jp, we have two rules in this organization.
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Speaker 3: What are the two rules?
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Speaker 2: Names close to the mic?
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Speaker 4: James, please, I know one thing. I'm looking at the
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Speaker 4: clocket's five oh one. Neither of us were on time.
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Speaker 2: I saw you.
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Speaker 3: I got in at five zero zero with the one
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Speaker 3: right after I sat down.
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Speaker 4: I apologize.
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Speaker 2: I got respectful. I crossed the line in fairness.
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Speaker 3: I'll accept the fine and fairness not making excuses. The
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Speaker 3: reality is both of us were in meetings that went
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Speaker 3: a little bit long. The day brings curveballs every once
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Speaker 3: in a while, and so we were sprinting down here
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Speaker 3: as fast as we.
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Speaker 2: Could, almost like prediction. Know that you guys were not
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Speaker 2: going to be right on time today. So I was
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Speaker 2: I was right.
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Speaker 4: You know, one of our one of our one of
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Speaker 4: the challenges that we were going to do. We've been
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Speaker 4: talking about, Hey, what what can we actually face each
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Speaker 4: other in physical competitions, and one of them was going
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Speaker 4: to be speed walking.
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Speaker 2: I saw you. I don't know, those strides are notable.
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Speaker 3: So I don't know if.
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Speaker 2: When you start having challenges involving speed wall I lost
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Speaker 2: the first one after basketball. He definitely had so as
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Speaker 2: a player, we used to have like a kangaroo court, right,
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Speaker 2: I mean you had it to Tony where you would
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Speaker 2: have fines in the ding room, in the lot posed
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Speaker 2: locker room. Fine, you guys, between the three of you, you,
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Speaker 2: you guys and Liam, do you guys have a little
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Speaker 2: fine pot.
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Speaker 3: Well, there's a it's not really a fine pot, but
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Speaker 3: you will catch there's a barbs thrown constantly across the
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Speaker 3: table for any activity that we deem the other two
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Speaker 3: deem is unacceptable.
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Speaker 4: And usually whatever nickname gets attached to somebody hangs on
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Speaker 4: for about a week.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's, you know, Jeff, the closest thing I can
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Speaker 3: compare it to. It's much like the locker room. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: you kind of should be police yourself and uh and
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Speaker 3: take care of business and get the job done. And
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Speaker 3: if you don't, you're gonna feel the pain.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you to hear about it. At least I remember
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Speaker 2: in the like when I was in New York, we
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Speaker 2: had some of our biggest pots, you know, we had
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Speaker 2: if you had a mental air in practice, got fined
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Speaker 2: and it was just in the.
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Speaker 3: Room, you know, and you've played defense.
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Speaker 2: Outside the big Some of some guys Tony don't learn
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Speaker 2: very well, you know, some do. So we had fines
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Speaker 2: for all of that stuff. You know. If you were
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Speaker 2: late for something, or if you passed gas in a
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Speaker 2: meeting room. You know, that made guys suffer. You got fined.
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Speaker 2: And at the end of the year we would have
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Speaker 2: a big party. Let's have a dinner and drinks and
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Speaker 2: memos and all that kind of stuff.
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Speaker 4: The elective effort.
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Speaker 2: Ye, you would make guys focus, But I think the
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Speaker 2: end of the year we usually had around four or
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Speaker 2: five grand Wow, you we had really all these mental
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Speaker 2: airs and we spent all of that on I bet
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Speaker 2: you did, and drinks. I bet you did. First two
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Speaker 2: padded practice days are in the books, James. What did
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Speaker 2: you find out reviewing it after the fact about this team?
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Speaker 4: You know, I think it reveals a lot. You know,
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Speaker 4: once the pads start popping, you get an understanding for
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Speaker 4: the players, the position groups who are built for that setting.
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Speaker 4: And you know, at this stage has been phenomenal to
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Speaker 4: see the progression of our offensive line. Right obviously throughout
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Speaker 4: the off season program, no pads are on. It's not
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Speaker 4: true football, It's it's a lot of above the neck
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Speaker 4: sort of focus. It's a lot of mental demands that
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Speaker 4: show up. And now that the physical demands are increasing,
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Speaker 4: you'd like for those mas to not start a surface
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Speaker 4: at a significant level, and that hadn't been the case.
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Speaker 4: And you know, the physicality has shown itself, and you
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Speaker 4: know the the groups are playing connected, even though there
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Speaker 4: are some moving parts. It's really starting to shape into
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Speaker 4: what we all know the offensive line to be and
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Speaker 4: that's a collective effort, just like you know, the guys
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Speaker 4: who were filling the piggybank, so to.
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Speaker 2: Speak in the media. Uh.
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Speaker 4: It has truly shown some real progression and I think
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Speaker 4: that's one of the highlights so far throughout the first
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Speaker 4: a half dozen on field sessions and training camp, and
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Speaker 4: look forward to seeing that continue to progress in the
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Speaker 4: way that we have.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure Tony you were watching those guys real close
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Speaker 2: from Monday and Tuesday, because I was watching them close.
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Speaker 3: Well, actually, Jeff, I was watching the corners. You're hanging
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Speaker 3: out specialists. This kicker is really cool to see how
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Speaker 3: Cam was kicking it off the side. Didn't notice anything
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Speaker 3: about the offense defensive line at all. Uh No, obviously. Uh.
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Speaker 3: You know it's early and I think we all know this.
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Speaker 3: The key is just to take it one day at
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Speaker 3: a time and not get too high too low, because
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Speaker 3: we are in the early innings of this whole process
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Speaker 3: of evaluation. But to start off, I echo what James said,
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Speaker 3: and I think the thing I was most pleased with
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Speaker 3: across the board for our team is the competitive nature
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Speaker 3: and the work ethic. You know, you get the pads on. Jeff,
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Speaker 3: you and I both know that first day in pads
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Speaker 3: is tough. You don't feel right. I just don't feel right,
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Speaker 3: feel uncomfortable. You haven't put these things on for you
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Speaker 3: to get formed up a little bit, and uh, and
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Speaker 3: sometimes it can be messy early, especially on the offense
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Speaker 3: side of the ball. And I thought, really, both sides
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Speaker 3: of the ball did a great job. I think it's
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Speaker 3: a testament to our coaches in the preparation and the
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Speaker 3: work our guys did in the meeting rooms. And I
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Speaker 3: thought the competitive nature stood out to me. And then
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Speaker 3: specifically on the O and D line, probably as physical
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Speaker 3: as I've seen us be in a while. And I
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Speaker 3: heard that from multiple people, and that's you know, I'm
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Speaker 3: not saying anything one way or another about how things
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Speaker 3: went in the past, but one of the things that's
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Speaker 3: been emphasized by Liam and the staff is, hey, we're
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Speaker 3: going to be a tough, physical team. And it's not perfect.
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Speaker 3: It's you know, there's a lot to clean up, but
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Speaker 3: you can see the strain and the effort of guys working,
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Speaker 3: and that's finish and the finish and that's all. And
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Speaker 3: that's just not for our own d line. I mean,
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Speaker 3: I think watching our receivers, Uh, I'll highlight a guy
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Speaker 3: like Parker Washington's you know, fighting you know, to have
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Speaker 3: a prominent role in our passing game, and the guy
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Speaker 3: who came on strong last year. But you know, what
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Speaker 3: was asked of him last year in the run game
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Speaker 3: is much different than what's asked now. And uh, and
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Speaker 3: seeing him get in there and mix it up. We
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Speaker 3: saw it again today. You know, him and Jordan Lewis
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Speaker 3: competing and one day, one play you got Parker winning,
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Speaker 3: the next play, Jordan Lewis winning. And but overall, just
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Speaker 3: the strain in the effort to go do what they're
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Speaker 3: being asked to do. And that's I think that's all
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Speaker 3: you can ask. Do we need to get better, absolutely,
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Speaker 3: Do we need to clean things up, absolutely, But can't
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Speaker 3: question the guy's effort, can't question their strain and the
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Speaker 3: physicality that we're asking.
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Speaker 2: I know that one of the guys that used to
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Speaker 2: be a personnel guy for a very long time, and
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Speaker 2: you guys probably remember James Shaq Harris, you know he
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Speaker 2: started this thing. He said, he said, let's uh, let's
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Speaker 2: not get a speeding ticket here, you know, getting ahead
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Speaker 2: of ourselves and too excited and all that. But you
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Speaker 2: know in the media, I can do that. I'm allowed
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Speaker 2: to do that. It's called wisdom. Yes, there's a couple
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Speaker 2: of guys that I just loved and watching the first
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Speaker 2: two days of pads. Fred Johnson when he gets when
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Speaker 2: he gets pumped up and fired up, he's gonna knock
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Speaker 2: somebody about ten yards across the side of the field.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's just a big man. Wyatt Blom physical
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Speaker 2: finishes to the echo of the whistle nearly every time.
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Speaker 2: Ezra Cleveland. Nobody's talking about Ezra and he's been having
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Speaker 2: as good of a camp as any offensive lineman. And
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Speaker 2: Toon Harrison, I don't know how the channel are you
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Speaker 2: got challenge or what, but from OTA's to now, he
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Speaker 2: looks like a different player. I mean, there's guys that
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Speaker 2: are standing out and making you notice, you know, and
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Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
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Speaker 3: Right, the credit's got to go around.
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Speaker 4: It's got to go to the players who are embracing
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Speaker 4: new mode operation, new standards, and it goes to a
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Speaker 4: coaching staff who's holding those and so it's a collective effort,
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Speaker 4: and you know, it's going to take everybody to bring
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Speaker 4: this thing to continue to create the identity that is
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Speaker 4: going to be the twenty twenty five Jacksonville Jaguars, and
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Speaker 4: that's starting to show itself a little bit more each
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Speaker 4: and every day. But even beyond that, right, you got
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Speaker 4: to appreciate the volume of hands that touch a ball
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Speaker 4: carrier from the defensive side right and even extended down
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Speaker 4: the field when some of these pop off, you know,
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Speaker 4: the urgency to pursue from the backside corner is there
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Speaker 4: on a consistent basis.
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Speaker 2: Three is a great example. That's a great example.
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Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
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Speaker 2: And when you got veteran guys that do it right,
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Speaker 2: like that with Tyson Campbell, because you know what you're
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Speaker 2: talking about. If you've got to play that's on the
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Speaker 2: let's say, defensive left side of the field and Tyson's
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Speaker 2: the right corner and he's running all the way down
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Speaker 2: the field forty yards to get a touch on the
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Speaker 2: running back. I mean, that's the example. I mean having
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Speaker 2: guys do that, that's that's more important than a coach
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Speaker 2: sitting there saying, hey, let's finish that's right.
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Speaker 3: You know a perfect example of that. I think he
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Speaker 3: was what.
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Speaker 2: Day is it? Thursday?
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Speaker 3: On Tuesday? Uh, there was a play and Josh Heines
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Speaker 3: Allens is dropping into his flat coverage. It's his own bitch,
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Speaker 3: you know. Assimilation on the other side of the ball,
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Speaker 3: and a great route by Brenton Strange and just a
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Speaker 3: just a bbe buy uh great and offensively you're like,
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Speaker 3: I'm watching it, like great execution Brenton's doing, trying to
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Speaker 3: split the defenders. And from the backside here comes Josh
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Speaker 3: Heines aumd full speed punching the ball out, ball on
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Speaker 3: the ground, defense picks up, goes the other way it takes.
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Speaker 4: The play is that everybody gets a chance to learn
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Speaker 4: from something and everybody gets a chance to celebrate something.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 4: That's a rep where both sides of the ball have
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Speaker 4: something to point out with the plus and something to
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Speaker 4: point out with the minus. Those are some critical reps
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Speaker 4: along the way here throughout training camp.
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Speaker 2: Plenty more ahead, just getting started. What we have you
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Speaker 2: for thirty minutes thirty thirty thirty from now, it's just
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Speaker 2: like just like that.
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Speaker 3: That means half the hour.
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Speaker 2: Three It could be like three hours. It could be
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Speaker 2: back in a moment. This se Liam Cohen Show and
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Speaker 2: the Jaguars Radio Network.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back The Liam Cohen Show. Presented by Fresh from Florida.
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Speaker 1: Continues right now.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Yes, the Liam Cohen Show presented by Fresh
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Speaker 2: from Florida. We'll have the head coach the start of
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Speaker 2: the regular season, Jap Shadwick, Jeff Logoman, Tony Busselli, James
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Speaker 2: Gladstone and Studio with us live. Second week in a row.
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Speaker 2: We can just make this a weekly like a year long. Tony,
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Speaker 2: come on, man, like I know you miss it over.
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Speaker 4: You give an inch, they take a mile, you know,
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Speaker 4: they they they We've talked a lot about that.
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Speaker 3: It's been you know, it's been the day comment or
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Speaker 3: the proverbial day has been a theme we've hit on here.
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Speaker 3: How so because they is you?
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Speaker 2: It's me?
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Speaker 3: No, they is you. Because people always blame they did this,
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Speaker 3: or they made me do this, or they made this
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Speaker 3: decision or whatever. And the message really is in a
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Speaker 3: high functioning team and organization is take the responsibility. They
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Speaker 3: is you.
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Speaker 2: I need to do this, I need to do that.
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Speaker 3: I get to do this like this is an opportunity,
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Speaker 3: get better.
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Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit about what they're gonna It's
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Speaker 3: gonna be a fun night, so hopefully a lot of
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Speaker 3: fans will come out and and uh it will be
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Speaker 3: a mock game full speed. We won't be tackling, but
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a physical practice and uh a lot
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Speaker 3: of situational but it will be full pads, full go
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Speaker 3: seeing all our guys out there, and uh a lot
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Speaker 3: of all of our rookies. So it's a good it's
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Speaker 3: a good opportunity for all of our fans to get
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Speaker 3: a first glimpse look before we suit it up for
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Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers in preseason game number one.
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Speaker 2: I like the idea of simulating a game as close
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Speaker 2: to possible, especially because this is also a great exercise
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Speaker 2: not just for the players, their new rookies, et cetera. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: but you got a new coaching staff, a new staff overall,
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Speaker 2: to let everybody kind of assimilated into the way things
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Speaker 2: are gonna be once the regular season starts.
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Speaker 4: The mechanics of the game is something that has to
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Speaker 4: be considered, and obviously it gives everybody who's new to
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Speaker 4: this space and opportunity to see what it might look like.
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Speaker 4: And even for those who have been involved with it
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Speaker 4: operationally in the past, because of some of the modifications
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Speaker 4: in the stadium, it's not the exact same. So to
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Speaker 4: be able to get a walk through is certainly going
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Speaker 4: to help alleviate some of the natural stressors that come
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Speaker 4: with doing something for the first time.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll go all the way through from the
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Speaker 3: very beginning of warm up. You know, the sequence of
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Speaker 3: the players coming out to warm up, go through a
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Speaker 3: warm up stretch, go back into the locker room, come
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Speaker 3: back out. National anthem coin toss.
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Speaker 2: When you say locker room, that's the one that's used
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Speaker 2: in the State. The State the game walk not here,
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Speaker 2: it's a Miller Center.
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Speaker 3: Now it will all be abbreviated, so it's not like
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Speaker 3: a full forty five forty minute pregame, whatever the timeframe
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Speaker 3: is at. And in the twelve minutes in the locker room,
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Speaker 3: everything's cut down like three minutes, like just to get
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Speaker 3: the just to go through the go through the motions,
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Speaker 3: to understand as the players like this is how because
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Speaker 3: you know every team stretches a little bit different. Every
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Speaker 3: team has a little bit of a different cadence to
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Speaker 3: the pregame warm up. Coaches will be in the booth
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Speaker 3: on headsets, so I'll be their first opportunity for the
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Speaker 3: staff to get in the booth, get comfortable with the surroundings,
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Speaker 3: get the communication. So it'll be a full operation. And
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Speaker 3: I think it's also good for our stadium operation, our business. Obviously,
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Speaker 3: everyone knows a lot of constructions going over there and
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Speaker 3: test out everything, make sure everything's running well, and so
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Speaker 3: that when we kick it off in the preseason against
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Speaker 3: the Steelers, it's a great It's a great environment for
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Speaker 3: our players, for our coaches, but also for our fans
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Speaker 3: to come in and see the team.
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Speaker 2: Where are you guys gonna be like on game day?
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Speaker 2: Figure this out.
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Speaker 4: We've spent time talking about it and we will remain agile.
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Speaker 3: We're open to suggestions and.
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Speaker 2: The scrimmage, Johnny, Look, you guys have a lot of flexibility.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, scrimmage. We're joking. During the regular season, James and
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Speaker 3: I will sit up and in one of the wherever
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Speaker 3: there's an open spy up for us to sit and
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Speaker 3: watch the game in a quiet space and to communicate
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Speaker 3: and watch it. Uh. During the you know, obviously during
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Speaker 3: a real game. For the for the mock mock game,
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Speaker 3: the scrimmage on Friday night, we've bantered back and forth.
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Speaker 3: We've not quite decided exactly where whether we're gonna watch
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Speaker 3: it on the field, we go up in the booth
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Speaker 3: to watch it.
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Speaker 2: Got umbrella drinks on your balcony? You got them over
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Speaker 2: there too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, umbrella. I'm hoping we won't need any umbrella drinks. Uh. No,
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Speaker 3: we we haven't decided for the mock game, but we'll
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Speaker 3: be up in the press box area, whether it's a
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Speaker 3: sweet right next to the press box or one of
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Speaker 3: the empty Again, I know I did not just trying
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Speaker 3: to get him back, James.
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Speaker 2: He's just checking you guys.
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Speaker 3: Got it A lot can do? Man, more you can do.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I know, you just because you have to
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Speaker 3: work more this year, because it's just.
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Speaker 2: More works, same pay. We're what week and a half
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Speaker 2: into a training camp, taking a look at Liam Cohen's
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Speaker 2: operation so far on a day to day basis, how
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Speaker 2: he interacts with the players, coaching staff, operates practice. James,
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Speaker 2: what stands out the most about the head coach?
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Speaker 4: You know, one thing that has remained a constant is
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Speaker 4: the standards that he holds true and firm, and you
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Speaker 4: know that's a refreshing piece to to it all. But also,
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Speaker 4: you know, one of his superpowers, and it's really shining through,
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Speaker 4: is his ability to tap into feel and instincts and
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Speaker 4: gut and you know that's how he is as a
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Speaker 4: play caller. He gets into a flow, he reads the game,
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Speaker 4: he reads the pulse of our players, the pulse of
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Speaker 4: the opponents, and he does that in a lot of
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Speaker 4: the practice settings that you know, our fans have had
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Speaker 4: the chance to see here, right, he saw in an
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Speaker 4: early practice where we cut one segment short because it
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Speaker 4: was operating at a high tick. It was one of
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Speaker 4: those days where you know, it's it's easy to fall
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Speaker 4: victim to Wow, everything's rolling and I'm not even thinking
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Speaker 4: outside what this script on the sheet of papers is
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Speaker 4: telling me that I planned for. Instead, he's able to
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Speaker 4: zoom out and actually take into consideration a lot of
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Speaker 4: the other variables dynamics at play and be able to
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Speaker 4: adjust remain agile like Tony and I will be as
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Speaker 4: it relates to where we're going to sit tomorrow night
18:41
Speaker 4: or stand. But nonetheless that has really shined through and
18:45
Speaker 4: that exists when you enter back into the building as
18:48
Speaker 4: well his you know, maluability. It's I mean, it's it's
18:51
Speaker 4: really cool to see someone now in that position who
18:55
Speaker 4: I saw in a very different light with La Rams.
18:58
Speaker 4: When we work together now operate in such a free
19:02
Speaker 4: flowing state of mind and openness to modify off of
19:07
Speaker 4: what it is black and white on maybe a piece
19:09
Speaker 4: of paper or a plan. So that agility, I think
19:12
Speaker 4: is going to show itself in a lot of positive
19:13
Speaker 4: ways moving forward, and certainly has already through the early
19:16
Speaker 4: portion of training camp.
19:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the only thing I would add, I mean
19:20
Speaker 3: one hundred percent agree everything James just said. I think
19:22
Speaker 3: the fun thing for me and kind of putting my
19:26
Speaker 3: player hat on, thinking back of how a players receiving
19:29
Speaker 3: information and experiencing and going through this whole new experience,
19:33
Speaker 3: because it's new for everybody, whether it's players here last year,
19:37
Speaker 3: our free agentcy have come in our rookies. This is
19:39
Speaker 3: a new operation, new messaging, new standard, expectations are different,
19:45
Speaker 3: and I think Liam has done an outstanding job his
19:49
Speaker 3: whole staff. He's an outstanding communicator. We hold communication in
19:56
Speaker 3: highly high regard. It's important the three of us. Do
20:00
Speaker 3: you watch him communicate to our team of laying out
20:03
Speaker 3: early starting OTAs how we're going to practice, reiterating that
20:09
Speaker 3: in training camp, what's the standard, what's the culture, what's
20:13
Speaker 3: the expectation? Pretty much everyone does that in the NFL
20:19
Speaker 3: on any team activity, the follow up of holding people accountable,
20:25
Speaker 3: and a lot of people you hear the word holding someone,
20:28
Speaker 3: holding someone accountable, you think that's a negative or like
20:30
Speaker 3: discipline or like getting after somebody. It's not always that
20:33
Speaker 3: if you can do it in a lot of different ways.
20:35
Speaker 3: And his style of holding being consistent of what he
20:39
Speaker 3: expects of play, style of effort, of physicality, of how
20:44
Speaker 3: to approach the game, and he does an outstanding job
20:47
Speaker 3: of communicating that to our players throughout this process. So
20:51
Speaker 3: I think that's been something that's been very refreshing. I
20:53
Speaker 3: think it's very important. I think players yearn for consistency
20:59
Speaker 3: of understanding what the expectation is, and then when they're
21:02
Speaker 3: held accountable, it becomes ingrained and understanding that and it's
21:06
Speaker 3: not changing. And I think Liam and his staff had
21:08
Speaker 3: done an outstanding job of saying, Hey, this is who
21:10
Speaker 3: we are, and this is how we're going to operate,
21:12
Speaker 3: here's the standard, and this is what we expect, and
21:15
Speaker 3: while at the same time using his gift of having
21:18
Speaker 3: that intuition of understanding as we're at a practice and
21:21
Speaker 3: going through things and understanding and having a pulse of
21:24
Speaker 3: the entire team and how to approach it and how
21:27
Speaker 3: to tailor for any specific situation. So he's done an
21:31
Speaker 3: outstanding job. Obviously it still early. We will face the
21:34
Speaker 3: challenges and adversity along the way, but was confident before
21:40
Speaker 3: coming into camp. Watching how we've operated and how the
21:43
Speaker 3: staff's operated even builds the confidence that whatever's thrown at
21:47
Speaker 3: us will figure it out, We'll work through it, communicate
21:50
Speaker 3: with each other, hold the standard that we've set and
21:54
Speaker 3: kind of attack it. So his communication has been elite.
21:58
Speaker 2: From going back to our playing days a little bit,
22:00
Speaker 2: some of the great players that we experienced, and I'm
22:03
Speaker 2: sure that you've watched James and scouted, et cetera. It
22:06
Speaker 2: seems like they have what we would call edge, got
22:08
Speaker 2: a little edge to them, a little feisty whatever, however
22:11
Speaker 2: you want to term it. And it was kind of
22:13
Speaker 2: interesting watching. It was actually on Jaguars dot Com. It
22:16
Speaker 2: was little tidbits from The Hunt, which is gonna be
22:18
Speaker 2: one of the TV shows coming up. Youause have heard
22:21
Speaker 2: of the Hunt, right, you guys have heard it. He's
22:23
Speaker 2: the star past stars of the Hunt. I mean he
22:26
Speaker 2: is a star of course anyway, supporting tease for the Hunt.
22:33
Speaker 2: It's limb in front of the team talking about edge.
22:36
Speaker 2: What is your edge? You know? But you know when
22:40
Speaker 2: you talk about Liam, the one thing that I kind
22:42
Speaker 2: of see with him is that a coach has to
22:44
Speaker 2: have a little edge too, because if you got a
22:47
Speaker 2: little edge, the message gets through a little bit, it
22:49
Speaker 2: gets to be more believable. I think it propels guys
22:53
Speaker 2: to do more than maybe they're accustomed to if there's
22:56
Speaker 2: a little bit of an edge to the coach. And
22:59
Speaker 2: I think he's got it wrong. That do you guys
23:01
Speaker 2: see that feel that.
23:03
Speaker 4: I think you got a good sense for who he
23:06
Speaker 4: is an intuition gut feel over there, Jack edge? All right,
23:10
Speaker 4: so I'm feeling you guys are almost looking like one
23:14
Speaker 4: right now.
23:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an edge.
23:16
Speaker 3: There's definitely an edge. What's your edge? JP?
23:20
Speaker 2: What is my edge? Yeah?
23:22
Speaker 3: What makes you different? What sets you apart with your edge?
23:24
Speaker 2: I don't know.
23:25
Speaker 4: Here's what I'll jump in real quick. Typically, when you're
23:29
Speaker 4: talking about high performance, revealing your edge isn't necessarily something
23:36
Speaker 4: yet you should feel like.
23:39
Speaker 3: That's why I asked JP, because he's more of a
23:41
Speaker 3: mid to low performance.
23:43
Speaker 2: We're back in a moment. We're going to close this
23:46
Speaker 2: show up when we come back. Now, we got we
23:49
Speaker 2: got another fifteen minutes, right Not the way they're going
23:53
Speaker 2: right now. This is this is how you get out
23:56
Speaker 2: of here. Quicker Show on Jaguars Radio, Welcome Back.
24:06
Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues
24:10
Speaker 1: right now.
24:11
Speaker 2: The final couple of minutes with James Gladstone and Tony Boselli.
24:14
Speaker 2: And Boselli is timing this, so we got to get
24:16
Speaker 2: out pretty quick.
24:17
Speaker 1: Uh.
24:17
Speaker 2: Final couple of minutes William coach Japy Shaddick with Jeff
24:21
Speaker 2: flaghaman scrimmage tomorrow and then guess what game week is here?
24:27
Speaker 2: The Steelers are coming to let's go preseason week one,
24:31
Speaker 2: real football, well preseason football, but.
24:34
Speaker 3: Really, but it's it's actually gonna be and we talk
24:38
Speaker 3: about this all the time. It'll be the first time
24:40
Speaker 3: of authentic football, full tackle, the full tackle like we
24:45
Speaker 3: are playing football. I mean, we're playing football the now
24:47
Speaker 3: with thudding and our guys are being physical doing everything
24:49
Speaker 3: we ask. But obviously you want to protect guys. But man,
24:54
Speaker 3: you kick it off against the Steelers, you have an
24:57
Speaker 3: opponent out there, it's it's full going and you and
24:59
Speaker 3: you learn more. I mean, JP, we talked about this
25:02
Speaker 3: for years together. This is all an evaluation process used
25:06
Speaker 3: build towards opening day, and each of each segment is
25:11
Speaker 3: an additional data point that you learn about your team,
25:14
Speaker 3: about the individual players, your coaches, us as a building,
25:18
Speaker 3: how we operate, and so ramps up kind of ramps
25:22
Speaker 3: up all the way to opening day, and it's a
25:25
Speaker 3: big moment. Preseason is important and a lot of guys
25:28
Speaker 3: fighting for jobs and fighting for the opportunity and they're
25:31
Speaker 3: gonna have a chance in a real NFL game setting
25:37
Speaker 3: to go show that they deserve to be on the
25:39
Speaker 3: team shooting.
25:40
Speaker 4: I don't know what it was like when you two
25:42
Speaker 4: were on the grass, but it.
25:44
Speaker 2: Was leather helmets. First of all.
25:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess it was quite a bit different, But
25:50
Speaker 4: the timing of roster reductions had to have been a
25:53
Speaker 4: much different different And that was when I first got
25:57
Speaker 4: involved in the NFL. It was the case you had
25:59
Speaker 4: three separate waves of reductions. The fact that we get
26:02
Speaker 4: to carry ninety players through the end of the preseason
26:07
Speaker 4: is a really helpful piece to the puzzle, right. You're
26:10
Speaker 4: not moving from players too quickly right after preseason week one,
26:15
Speaker 4: and now it becomes a challenge preseason week two and
26:18
Speaker 4: week three to even fill out the group and keep
26:22
Speaker 4: everybody healthy and.
26:22
Speaker 3: Especially I mean most teams have gone and we're still
26:27
Speaker 3: in the evaluation process of how we're going to handle this,
26:30
Speaker 3: but a lot of teams across the league are playing
26:33
Speaker 3: the starters and their premier players less and less in
26:37
Speaker 3: several instances, not at all during the preseason preseason, using
26:40
Speaker 3: the camp and joint practices that opportunity to get the
26:44
Speaker 3: work in necessary to be ready opening day, and so
26:48
Speaker 3: having that ninety man roster all through preseason Game three,
26:52
Speaker 3: it's critical to really get out their evaluate and give
26:56
Speaker 3: guys a chance to go earn a roster spot.
26:58
Speaker 2: I think it's a great debate on how do you
27:01
Speaker 2: how do you approach the preseason with playtime and starters
27:05
Speaker 2: and the risk of injury versus the risk of getting
27:07
Speaker 2: guys ready to play. I mean, back you know the
27:10
Speaker 2: old days, pre standard. I mean I'm not to bring
27:13
Speaker 2: up the old days. Everyone did the same everybody did
27:15
Speaker 2: the same thing, same thing. It was one quarter in
27:17
Speaker 2: the first game, the second game, you'd go to the
27:19
Speaker 2: quarter and a half to the half. The next game
27:21
Speaker 2: you'd come out after halftime.
27:23
Speaker 4: And nowadays everybody's trying to find an edge.
27:29
Speaker 3: And here's speaking from experience. Wow, wow, you kind of
27:38
Speaker 3: that up their JP. And the interesting thing, Jeff, you
27:41
Speaker 3: bring up a great point. You see teams that play
27:45
Speaker 3: their starters in pre season and win. You see teams
27:49
Speaker 3: that don't play starters at all and win. And so
27:52
Speaker 3: it's not like there's like the data says like do
27:56
Speaker 3: this and here's the result, or do that and you
28:00
Speaker 3: we'll get this outcome. So it goes back with James
28:04
Speaker 3: was talking about Leam. You gotta have a feel your
28:06
Speaker 3: head coach has got to feel the team, feel the situation,
28:08
Speaker 3: understand where you are. And I think that's one of
28:11
Speaker 3: the reasons we've been Liam has been very quiet all
28:13
Speaker 3: the organization of what the plan is. Kind of Liam,
28:17
Speaker 3: we trust one hundred percent to understand kind of where
28:20
Speaker 3: we're at and what he needs to and his coaches
28:22
Speaker 3: need to do and see and and get a feel
28:25
Speaker 3: for and and we'll find out opening night, and.
28:28
Speaker 2: We'll probably talk about it next week if there's a
28:30
Speaker 2: decision out there. Next Thursday, how about.
28:33
Speaker 4: That time Town Possibly we'll see Baby remain agile.
28:39
Speaker 2: That's right, James, great to see. Appreciate you, Tony, you
28:42
Speaker 2: were here. We have another seven minutes. We're done with these,
28:47
Speaker 2: especially that one. James is more welcome. I appreciate the
28:55
Speaker 2: Tony with us back with more so. The Hum Coach
28:58
Speaker 2: Show on the Jaguars Radio Network, Welcome Back.
29:03
Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues
29:07
Speaker 1: right now.
29:08
Speaker 2: And we are on the Jaguars Radio Network, presented by
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29:17
Speaker 1: J P.
29:17
Speaker 2: Shatick with Jeff Logoman, another fantastic conversation with James Bladstone
29:25
Speaker 2: and Tony Boselli live in the studio. You know, I
29:27
Speaker 2: think we need to once we get to the regular season,
29:29
Speaker 2: since we're gonna have Liam on, which by the way,
29:31
Speaker 2: I really wait for it. He's great, and we should
29:35
Speaker 2: have like maybe a second show. So I'm saying that
29:38
Speaker 2: Gladstone Biselli show have a pod. A podcast. Yeah, that's
29:41
Speaker 2: the rage these days, right, everybody's got everybody's got a podcast. Podcast.
29:45
Speaker 2: It seemed like nowadays, let's throw these guys out there. Anyway,
29:48
Speaker 2: I was walking into building Monday or Tuesday, I don't
29:54
Speaker 2: remember exactly which day, and I saw, you know how,
29:56
Speaker 2: sometimes in in football stadium or buildings or any kind
30:02
Speaker 2: of athletic buildings, you always see these sayings, right, you know,
30:08
Speaker 2: team not me, four A to B right, that kind
30:13
Speaker 2: of stuff, all that kind of stuff. And so there
30:16
Speaker 2: there was one that was up in the building downstairs,
30:19
Speaker 2: which which I saw as I walked by, and I
30:22
Speaker 2: couldn't help but notice that I thought it was pretty cool.
30:25
Speaker 2: And it's a it's called cleats, and cleats is spelled
30:30
Speaker 2: C L E A T S. Thank you. That's what
30:32
Speaker 2: that UVA education did for me. And on the sign
30:36
Speaker 2: it says cleats and of course between each letter is
30:39
Speaker 2: a period, meaning that's an acronym for something. So it
30:44
Speaker 2: says cleats. Be where your feet are, so you go
30:46
Speaker 2: to the C. It's commitment, and it says selfless devotion,
30:51
Speaker 2: We above me. L is for love, prep, practice, game,
30:56
Speaker 2: the process drives results. Gotta love the press E energy, energy, vibe,
31:03
Speaker 2: positive state of mind, uplift your space. ViBe's a good word.
31:08
Speaker 2: I like that a authentic relationships are built on trust,
31:15
Speaker 2: t tough mentally and physically. And then the S is smart,
31:23
Speaker 2: expert of your craft. Pretty cool stuff. I thought that's
31:27
Speaker 2: a really cool thing to have on the side of
31:30
Speaker 2: the building because if you follow that thing right there
31:32
Speaker 2: as a team and as an individual, you will be successful.
31:36
Speaker 2: It's part of building the culture of what they want
31:38
Speaker 2: around here. I like sayings like that, you know, I mean,
31:42
Speaker 2: it's in black and white, it's right there in front
31:44
Speaker 2: of everybody to see it, read it, feel it. That's
31:46
Speaker 2: the culture that they're building. I like it. Let's come
31:48
Speaker 2: back in a moment. We'll talk a little more ballogs
31:51
Speaker 2: when we come back. A couple of padded practices. Earlier
31:53
Speaker 2: this week, we got to get to and a teaser.
31:59
Speaker 2: Robert Haynes. Okay, if you're gonna block Devon Hamilton on
32:04
Speaker 2: the very first one on one pass rush move? Okay,
32:09
Speaker 2: if you're Hainsey, what do you expect? And number two,
32:13
Speaker 2: how are you gonna react? Well? See when we come back.
32:17
Speaker 2: It's the Liam Cohen Show on Jaguars Radio. Welcome back.
32:25
Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues
32:29
Speaker 1: right now.
32:30
Speaker 2: We are back and we'll have the head coach with
32:32
Speaker 2: us starting week one of the regular season or thanks
32:35
Speaker 2: to James Landstone GM and EVP Tony Baselli joining us
32:39
Speaker 2: the first to half hour of the program tonight and
32:42
Speaker 2: throughout the rest of the preseason. Been fun so far
32:46
Speaker 2: two weeks in to have those guys in studio with us.
32:49
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33:10
Speaker 2: I like the throwbacks, Yeah, they're cool. I think, I
33:14
Speaker 2: think they're fantastic. I think they would to wear them
33:16
Speaker 2: all the time. I think, yeah, we'll see how many
33:21
Speaker 2: times they wear them this year. But I think there's
33:23
Speaker 2: some rules on that they're not doing alternative helmets or anything, right, No, no, no, yeah,
33:28
Speaker 2: I think that was that one game white helmet. I
33:30
Speaker 2: think that's done. Now. If you could pick an alternative helmet,
33:34
Speaker 2: what what would the style be like a new one
33:39
Speaker 2: or what I mean, what you would want to see
33:42
Speaker 2: if you were the designer and you had the decision
33:45
Speaker 2: to make the call on an alternative helmet, which it's
33:50
Speaker 2: not like you can go back in time and say,
33:52
Speaker 2: you know what, let's go back to the first one,
33:53
Speaker 2: because they're so close now versus back in ninety five.
33:57
Speaker 2: But if you could come up with a different color,
33:59
Speaker 2: a different skim, a different look, probably a teel helmet, right, yeah,
34:03
Speaker 2: probably so, or one with Jaguars spots all around, that'd
34:07
Speaker 2: be a different kind of like bengalish yeahs, but not quite.
34:11
Speaker 2: I don't think i'd like that. You wouldn't go back
34:13
Speaker 2: to the two tone? No, that was so bad. Okay,
34:18
Speaker 2: that was so bad. Okay, Hey, let's get back to
34:20
Speaker 2: your question before the break. If you're Robert Hansey offensive
34:24
Speaker 2: lineman and you're lined up against Devon Hamilton, what's your approach? Okay,
34:28
Speaker 2: So Robert Haynes, he'd get people onto a veteran center
34:30
Speaker 2: they acquired from Tampa Bay. And and if you look
34:34
Speaker 2: at him, you know he's he's a big guy because
34:36
Speaker 2: he's an offensive lineman, but you know from the waist
34:39
Speaker 2: down he's not like a big, giant, hulking guy six
34:43
Speaker 2: four three oh six. And Devon Hamilton they list him
34:46
Speaker 2: at like three thirty five. But there ain't no way
34:49
Speaker 2: you think he's bigger than Oh gosh, I think that's
34:51
Speaker 2: about fair. No, no, no, no, no, no, he's plus
35:00
Speaker 2: So anyway, Von Hamilton incredibly strong, Okay, Hainsey, you know,
35:06
Speaker 2: not as strong. So if I'm Hainsey, the first thing
35:09
Speaker 2: I'm thinking is this guy is gonna try to just
35:13
Speaker 2: walk me back to the quarterback with a bull rush, right.
35:17
Speaker 2: So Hainsey's prepared for that. And one of the great
35:21
Speaker 2: things about smart veteran players, which Hainsey is one of them,
35:25
Speaker 2: you can kind of send a message to create a
35:28
Speaker 2: little uncertainty in the minds of players going forward. If
35:33
Speaker 2: you do the right thing first. Hainsey sets here, comes
35:37
Speaker 2: to Von Hamilton with the bull. Hainsey knocks his hands down,
35:40
Speaker 2: buries him in the grass. So what is Devon Hamilton
35:44
Speaker 2: thinking about the next time he's pass rushing. I can't
35:47
Speaker 2: do that. He's gonna knock my hands down. So now
35:50
Speaker 2: he's a little hesitant the next time, so in Hainsey's
35:53
Speaker 2: able to slow the momentum a little bit the next time.
35:55
Speaker 2: I just thought it was real crafty by Hainsey, kind
35:59
Speaker 2: of expecting that at being prepared for it, reacting to it,
36:03
Speaker 2: and then he kind of sets the tone for the
36:05
Speaker 2: ensuing rushes. And as a smart veteran player, if you
36:09
Speaker 2: have a little bit of that wherewithal and awareness in games,
36:14
Speaker 2: it can make the difference between winning and losing individual battles.
36:18
Speaker 2: So pretty cool to see. Yeah, and yeah, he's been
36:21
Speaker 2: around for five years, his fifth year in the league,
36:23
Speaker 2: so he's played some football. Yeah, he's uh, he's not
36:27
Speaker 2: real big from the waist down now, you know he's
36:29
Speaker 2: an offensive lineman. You know you if you if you
36:32
Speaker 2: took a picture of him and just legs and I
36:36
Speaker 2: gave that picture to you JP waist down, I said,
36:39
Speaker 2: predict what position this guy plays out and it was
36:42
Speaker 2: amongst other ones. Okay, there's no way you would say
36:45
Speaker 2: offensive line, do you what would you say? Probably linebacker? Okay?
36:50
Speaker 2: I mean everybody's got a different body, you know, everybody's different.
36:55
Speaker 2: And he's you know, slight down low compared to most
36:59
Speaker 2: all offensive lineman. But he's you know, he's big up
37:03
Speaker 2: the top, you know. And he's obviously a good football player.
37:05
Speaker 2: He started a lot of football games, and he's gonna
37:08
Speaker 2: help this team. Let's come back in a moment. Let's
37:10
Speaker 2: get in the secondary. We haven't really touched the air
37:12
Speaker 2: a lot in the last day or so. And and
37:15
Speaker 2: on top of that, we talked about this earlier in
37:17
Speaker 2: the week, and you forgot Okay, So I'm gonna remind
37:19
Speaker 2: you what. There's two guys on this football team that
37:22
Speaker 2: I will okay, And when I say what about the rest,
37:26
Speaker 2: you don't like the rest of them? No, I like
37:27
Speaker 2: a lot of it. There's only two, but there's two
37:29
Speaker 2: guys that are If you have a lot of guys
37:32
Speaker 2: like these two guys, you can win a lot of
37:34
Speaker 2: football games because these guys are tough and they're dependent. Dude,
37:39
Speaker 2: Leave was hanging no, okay, we'll come back and back
37:42
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37:44
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38:22
Speaker 2: of the regular season. We had James Gladstone and Tony
38:25
Speaker 2: Bisselli in the first half hour tonight. Let's get into
38:29
Speaker 2: the secondary now. And you said you had two guys
38:31
Speaker 2: that you loved on the team and the rest of
38:33
Speaker 2: them can go. Pound sand said, Okay that I said.
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Speaker 2: I just said, you know, the more guys that you have,
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Speaker 2: like these two guys that I'm gonna bring up, I think,
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Speaker 2: the greater chance you have of being being successful and
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Speaker 2: the two guys I'm talking about, Parker Washington and then
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Speaker 2: Brenton Strange. You know, I don't consider these guys like
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Speaker 2: rockstar superstars in the NFL. You know, maybe Brenton Strange
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Speaker 2: can take that next step to be one of these
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Speaker 2: elite tight ends, but that's not where he's at right now.
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Speaker 2: But he's a guy just like Parker Washington. Whatever you
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Speaker 2: ask them to do, they do it well. And they're
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Speaker 2: not elite players, but they're tough players. They're dependable players,
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Speaker 2: they're always available. Give me a bunch of those guys
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Speaker 2: and you can win a lot of football games. And
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Speaker 2: Parker Washington is kind of an afterthought right now, you know,
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Speaker 2: because all of the attention is on Travis Hunter, It's
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Speaker 2: on Diammie Brown and also BTJ. Yes, and we'll wait
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Speaker 2: a minute. Parker Washington's a good football player and also
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Speaker 2: a very good return man. And I appreciate how his
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Speaker 2: name is coming up and being positive because I appreciate
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Speaker 2: Parker Washington. He works incredibly hard. This conversation kind of
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Speaker 2: flips over to defense as well, and they did a
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Speaker 2: lot of work this offseason to rebuild the defensive back room,
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Speaker 2: safeties and corners, free agency play draft picks, and I
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Speaker 2: think you're seeing, at least early in camp week and
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Speaker 2: a half in two padded practices, there are some positive
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Speaker 2: signs out of some of these new faces. And the
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Speaker 2: one that pops out to me almost every day is
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Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis, the cornerback, ninth year man out of Michigan,
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Speaker 2: was in Dallas the guys everywhere, seems to get his
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Speaker 2: hands on football every day, super competitive and has just
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Speaker 2: you talked about an edge, right, he's got doubt it.
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Speaker 2: He's got something about God. And what I like about
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Speaker 2: him too, that edge. Okay, he competes with guys, but
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Speaker 2: then plays over he's helping the offensive guy up. He knows, hey,
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Speaker 2: look that's my teammate. And there is no doubt that
40:44
Speaker 2: that whole position group has been elevated. James Gladstone did
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Speaker 2: a wonderful job in free agency with addressing that position group.
40:53
Speaker 2: I say that position group, the whole back end. It's
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Speaker 2: going to be interesting to see who's gonna start. There's
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Speaker 2: some very clear choices right now. Tyson Campbell's gonna be
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Speaker 2: your right corner. Jordan Lewis is gonna be your nickel guy.
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Speaker 2: Who's gonna be your left corner. I don't know, could
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Speaker 2: be Travis Hunter what you would assume? So right? But
41:15
Speaker 2: what happens if Travis is not out there? Does Jordan
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Speaker 2: Lewis go back outside? Does Jari and Jones go in
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Speaker 2: there at left corner? Does Monteric Brown once he comes back?
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Speaker 2: Does he end up making some some a spot for himself?
41:29
Speaker 2: A great question. The safeties you got brought You brought
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Speaker 2: a guy in via free agency. You've got a guy
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Speaker 2: last year who many thought was not any good anymore
41:37
Speaker 2: in Antonio Johnson, and all he's doing is playing good
41:40
Speaker 2: ball right now in training camp. They got Eric you
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Speaker 2: mentioned the veteran Eric Murray, tenth year player at of Minnesota,
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Speaker 2: but good solid head above his shoulders, football smart always
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Speaker 2: seems to be in the right place. Man Dewey Winger
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Speaker 2: same thing back there. Uh has given you quality snaps
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Speaker 2: in the past. Performances have been really solid. So that's
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Speaker 2: gonna be a really fun group to watch evolve. We'll
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Speaker 2: come back in a moment our final thoughts. We'll look
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Speaker 2: ahead to the scrimmage Tomorrow night of The Liam Cohen
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Speaker 2: Find a Moment's j P. Shaddick with Jeff Loogman scrimmage
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Speaker 2: and then seven o'clock the actual scrimmage begins. But the
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Speaker 2: hour leading in there'll be some on field warm up
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Speaker 2: things and excited to see what this team has to
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Speaker 2: offer tomorrow night, especially quarterback. Let's see the Trevor Lawrence
42:51
Speaker 2: show tomorrow. Well, the performance of everybody but Trevor Lawrence.
42:55
Speaker 2: And I mean at times Trevor's just kind of been
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Speaker 2: okay and then times you're like, wow, that was helping.
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Speaker 2: He threw a deep ball today, that's beautiful. But the
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Speaker 2: other guys that are behind Trevor, you're just like, eh, eh,
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Speaker 2: so I think that that's gonna Look. I know that
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Speaker 2: they wanted to surround Trevor with guys that have had
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Speaker 2: experience in the system, sure, which they accomplished that, but
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Speaker 2: at some point into the future you need to also
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Speaker 2: start realizing, hey, look, we need to get we need
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Speaker 2: to get an upgrade there, make that position better across
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Speaker 2: the board. You know, not obtaining you know you're goutting
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Speaker 2: Trevor or anything. I'm just saying, elevate the players at that
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Speaker 2: room and make it better and more competitive overall. So
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Speaker 2: tomorrow scrimmage time, and we're about a week away from
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Speaker 2: preseason week one, so we're in the thick of it
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Speaker 2: right now. Well, and then Pittsburgh is when is that?
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Speaker 2: What day is that? Saturday? Saturday night? Saturday night? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that'll be a fun one. I wonder who you know
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Speaker 2: and they know who's not playing? Aaron Rodgers will not
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Speaker 2: play it that you don't think, I don't think so, I
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Speaker 2: doubt it. Well. The interesting thing from our perspective is
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Speaker 2: because you know, preseason is one of those games you
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Speaker 2: don't care about the other team for the most part, right,
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Speaker 2: you care about evaluating your team, the health of your team,
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Speaker 2: and who's playing and who's not for your team. That's
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Speaker 2: gonna be the interesting thing next week is who's playing
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Speaker 2: who's not. I don't care because I'm watching it either way,
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Speaker 2: all right. Thanks to James Gladstone, Tony Vasselli, Joe Fortunado,
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Speaker 2: Brent Reever, David Choe for Jeff Logerman. I'm JP Shaddick.
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