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- 0:02You're listening to the
- 0:03Play Therapy Parenting Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks.
- 0:09Hi,
- 0:09I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks,
- 0:10The Kid Counselor.
- 0:11This is the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast where I give you insight,
- 0:14awareness,
- 0:15and enlightenment about your parenting
- 0:17and your relationship with your kids.
- 0:19In today's episode,
- 0:20I am answering a question from Whitney.
- 0:22And this is about
- 0:25her son
- 0:27saying pretty negative self-defeating statements
- 0:30and how to handle it,
- 0:31and this is something that we see a lot at our practice,
- 0:35definitely something that many kids commonly do,
- 0:39so I'm glad that you emailed Whitney,
- 0:40thank you for that
- 0:42and we'll read parts of the email and dive in together.
- 0:46We have been using child-centered play therapy parenting with our three boys,
- 0:506, 4,
- 0:50and 2,
- 0:51and our 6-year old was in play therapy for about
- 0:536 months with major improvements in managing his emotions.
- 0:57Let me pause there.
- 0:57Whitney,
- 0:58I'm so glad that you were able to find a child-centered play therapist.
- 1:01I'm so happy to hear that you saw the progress you were hoping for,
- 1:05and play therapy really does support kids in a special way.
- 1:09So I'm really encouraged by that
- 1:11continuing.
- 1:12Lately we've noticed our oldest has been getting down on himself,
- 1:14saying negative things about himself,
- 1:16and gently hitting himself when he makes a mistake.
- 1:19For example,
- 1:19he lost a toy he loved.
- 1:20We were looking for it,
- 1:22and he kept saying,
- 1:22I'm so stupid.
- 1:23I'm bad.
- 1:24Why did I do that?
- 1:25And then hitting himself on the shoulder,
- 1:27and he slapped himself on the face.
- 1:30I told him you're disappointed you lost your toy,
- 1:32but you are not for hitting.
- 1:34What do we do?
- 1:35I tried to I try to encourage him all the time.
- 1:39And then in parentheses,
- 1:40also,
- 1:40I would love more suggestions on encouragement because I feel
- 1:43like we use the phrases you tried so hard,
- 1:45you didn't give up and you're so proud of yourself over and over.
- 1:48But I'd love more ideas.
- 1:50I'll,
- 1:50I'll circle back to that,
- 1:51Whitney.
- 1:52I want him to have a high self-esteem and it breaks our hearts to see him like this.
- 1:56OK,
- 1:57so
- 1:58let's dive into
- 1:59what's going on,
- 2:01why,
- 2:01and then
- 2:03how we can adjust in our interactions.
- 2:06So first and foremost,
- 2:07if a child has low self-esteem,
- 2:10low frustration tolerance,
- 2:12and high anxiety,
- 2:14that is typically the trifecta
- 2:17that creates
- 2:18phrases like this in kids.
- 2:20And here's what's going on when you don't have a strong self concept.
- 2:25When you don't handle things
- 2:28in a regulated way.
- 2:30And when
- 2:31everything
- 2:32upsets you because of your
- 2:34consistent anxiety levels.
- 2:37You end up
- 2:38internalizing things as
- 2:41you are bad,
- 2:42you are wrong,
- 2:43you are a failure,
- 2:45rather than,
- 2:46oh,
- 2:47I lost this toy.
- 2:49Oh,
- 2:49I made a mistake.
- 2:51Oh,
- 2:51I made a choice that I wish I wouldn't have.
- 2:54So essentially the message that gets internalized is different than
- 2:58what it should be,
- 3:00but it's because of those three undercurrent issues.
- 3:03So if we can recognize that that is at the root,
- 3:06we then understand that it's just maladaptive coping.
- 3:11So it's not an issue independently,
- 3:13Whitney.
- 3:14It's not that he is saying negative things
- 3:17and that's the issue.
- 3:18The negative things are just a representation
- 3:21of what's going on for him internally.
- 3:24So we have to understand what's going on first.
- 3:27And secondly,
- 3:28this is actually very normal.
- 3:30When kids
- 3:32do not
- 3:33feel that they can trust themselves,
- 3:35when they do not
- 3:36value and accept themselves.
- 3:39They will naturally feel like they should punish themselves.
- 3:42Now,
- 3:42let's kind of unpack that for a second.
- 3:45Often,
- 3:46kids will punish themselves because they feel like they deserve it.
- 3:51They're so hard on themselves
- 3:52that
- 3:53I know that I screwed up,
- 3:55so I'm going to punish myself.
- 3:56They think that that's retribution,
- 3:58even though it's not.
- 3:59It doesn't solve or fix anything.
- 4:01But again,
- 4:01kids aren't rational.
- 4:02So we know,
- 4:03I mean,
- 4:03your son is 6,
- 4:04Whitney,
- 4:05so
- 4:05he's so far away from rational thought and abstract reasoning.
- 4:08He's got a very long way to go,
- 4:10more than twice what he is now.
- 4:12So it's just a natural byproduct
- 4:15of I screwed up and I should be punished.
- 4:18So they will sometimes hit themselves,
- 4:20smack themselves,
- 4:21pinch themselves,
- 4:22bite themselves,
- 4:22things like that.
- 4:23Also common behavior.
- 4:25We also recognize that that behavior
- 4:29is sometimes rooted in,
- 4:31well,
- 4:31if I punish myself first,
- 4:32then no one else will.
- 4:34So sometimes it's avoidant and fear-based.
- 4:37If I punish myself,
- 4:39maybe I won't get in trouble
- 4:40by someone who could actually get me in trouble,
- 4:42you know,
- 4:43teacher,
- 4:43parent,
- 4:44caregiver,
- 4:45authority figure,
- 4:46whomever.
- 4:47So that's another potential cause.
- 4:50Keep in mind that when children say things and do things
- 4:54they don't have an emotional context for it.
- 4:58It is just their way of showing other people in the world how badly they feel.
- 5:04That's,
- 5:04that's all that it boils down to.
- 5:06So when kids say I hate myself,
- 5:07I hate my life,
- 5:08I wish I was never born,
- 5:10those are phrases that are really alarming.
- 5:12When kids hit themselves,
- 5:13smack themselves,
- 5:14bite themselves,
- 5:15say I'm so stupid,
- 5:15I'm so dumb,
- 5:16I'm an idiot.
- 5:17Those are also alarming,
- 5:19but they don't have the emotional context that we do for those things.
- 5:23They're basically saying,
- 5:24I hate this feeling and I don't know what to do about it.
- 5:27And I've done other podcasts on when kids say crazy alarming things.
- 5:31So if that resonates with you,
- 5:33please go back and search for that episode.
- 5:36The point is,
- 5:37when he's saying and doing these things,
- 5:40it's not really what it seems.
- 5:42That's just representation of,
- 5:45I hate this,
- 5:46I want to escape this,
- 5:47and I'm trying to solve the problem.
- 5:50And it's
- 5:51maladaptive and it's disregulated,
- 5:53but that's what it's rooted in.
- 5:54It's an intent to fix it.
- 5:57So now that we understand what's likely causing it and why,
- 6:00now we can address how we're going to respond.
- 6:04We obviously are going to set limits on self-harm,
- 6:08and it sounds like you already did.
- 6:09You're disappointed you lost your toy,
- 6:11but you're not for hitting.
- 6:13I think that it would be more important to say
- 6:16a broader limit.
- 6:18So,
- 6:19you're never for hurting.
- 6:21I think that would be a little bit more impactful.
- 6:24You are never for hurting,
- 6:26and if you want to add the Y in,
- 6:27it would be.
- 6:29Because
- 6:31you're special,
- 6:32or for like for my son,
- 6:33I used to say,
- 6:34I made you.
- 6:35So I would say,
- 6:36you're not for hurting,
- 6:37I made you.
- 6:38And
- 6:39there are all kinds of reasons why a child isn't for hurting.
- 6:42You can come up with the one that seems to make the most sense for you and your family.
- 6:46But
- 6:47you want to be clear,
- 6:49there's a why.
- 6:50It's not a limit arbitrarily,
- 6:52there's a why.
- 6:53You have inherent worth,
- 6:54you have inherent value.
- 6:57And
- 6:58you should never do anything that's going to injure yourself.
- 7:01So you're disappointed that you lost the toy,
- 7:03but you're never for hurting,
- 7:05and then throw a Y in.
- 7:07Here's the thing,
- 7:08he's going to need alternatives.
- 7:10This is where kids get stuck.
- 7:11This is why the limit setting process
- 7:14offers alternatives,
- 7:15because if we set a limit,
- 7:17and then the child doesn't know what they can do instead,
- 7:20they don't know to do anything else.
- 7:23They're not rational,
- 7:24right?
- 7:24They're not cognitive.
- 7:25They're not going to think their way out of this.
- 7:27So you say you're never for hitting,
- 7:28you're never for hurting,
- 7:29whatever,
- 7:30and then they're like,
- 7:31well,
- 7:31great.
- 7:32And then they don't know what else to do,
- 7:33so they go back to hitting or hurting themselves.
- 7:36We always have to provide alternatives so you can
- 7:38choose to hit the pillow or you can choose.
- 7:41To
- 7:42hit the couch,
- 7:43which do you choose?
- 7:44Or you can choose to tell me about how mad you are,
- 7:48or you can choose to talk to me about how sad you are.
- 7:51There are all kinds of options.
- 7:52What is it that he needs to release that feeling?
- 7:56He's,
- 7:56he feels guilty,
- 7:57likely.
- 7:58He feels ashamed.
- 8:00He feels maybe embarrassed.
- 8:02There's all kinds of things,
- 8:03and those are all vulnerable emotions.
- 8:06No one wants to feel vulnerable.
- 8:08We try to mask it at all costs unless we have high emotional IQ.
- 8:13So we see even in adults,
- 8:16we mask vulnerability.
- 8:18This is what he's doing.
- 8:19He feels all of these things very deeply.
- 8:22I would argue,
- 8:23Whitney,
- 8:23he's probably a highly sensitive child,
- 8:25so I think his feelings are bigger than they are for other kids.
- 8:28So when he feels ashamed,
- 8:30he feels really ashamed.
- 8:32If he feels embarrassed,
- 8:33it's overwhelmingly embarrassing.
- 8:35We have to recognize sensitive kids are going to feel things deeply.
- 8:40And therefore he needs an outlet.
- 8:42So what does he really need
- 8:45that's going to help him feel better
- 8:47about the fact that the toy is misplaced?
- 8:49Maybe he needs to hit something,
- 8:51maybe he needs to talk about something,
- 8:52maybe he needs to
- 8:55throw something as hard and as fast as he can.
- 8:57Maybe he needs to go run.
- 8:59There are all kinds of things that you can offer based on your child's personality
- 9:04and what's going to make the most sense as an outlet for that original need.
- 9:08What he's trying to communicate is,
- 9:10I'm really,
- 9:11really upset about this.
- 9:14That's the goal is give him alternatives that meet the original need.
- 9:19I feel really ashamed.
- 9:20I feel really guilty.
- 9:21I feel really embarrassed.
- 9:23I feel like I'm a failure,
- 9:25whatever it is,
- 9:26he needs a way to get that out
- 9:29that does not include hitting himself,
- 9:32smacking himself,
- 9:33those kinds of things.
- 9:35So you want to consistently make clear he has alternatives
- 9:41and getting back to your,
- 9:43we try to encourage him,
- 9:44yes,
- 9:44continue esteem building and encouragement phrases
- 9:48and in the show notes,
- 9:49I will post a link to
- 9:51more than 100 encouragement phrases for all of you to have access to.
- 9:56And that will be
- 9:57an arsenal of encouragement phrases that you can use.
- 10:00I categorize them in situationally specific scenarios.
- 10:05So when you're with when he's with friends,
- 10:07you know,
- 10:07these are ones you would use when you're at home,
- 10:09these are ones that you would use.
- 10:11So you're gonna have to kind of read through them.
- 10:13But it'll at least give you all kinds of options
- 10:16so that you're not just defaulting to those three that you shared Whitney.
- 10:19Continue to
- 10:21provide self-esteem,
- 10:22building phrases,
- 10:23encouragement phrases,
- 10:25and over time,
- 10:26anxiety reduces,
- 10:28self-esteem increases.
- 10:30And
- 10:31you have a child that's able to better handle emotions
- 10:34and better regulate,
- 10:35but it's a work in progress.
- 10:36He's young,
- 10:37he's 6,
- 10:38he's emotional,
- 10:40he's irrational,
- 10:41and he's going to show you behaviorally what's going on.
- 10:45So this is
- 10:46a be patient process,
- 10:48and this is stick to the limits and the encouragement and esteem building
- 10:53and you will see a difference.
- 10:55So Whitney,
- 10:55thank you so much for the email.
- 10:56I hope that that's helpful for all of you.
- 10:58If you all would like me to answer a question of yours,
- 11:01please email me brenna@heid counselor.com.
- 11:04I'd love to hear from you if you would just like to email me and say hello.
- 11:07I would love to chat with you as well.
- 11:08And by the way,
- 11:09I do get all of my emails and answer all of them.
- 11:12So many people think I must have someone that filters them or vets them or whatever.
- 11:17I get every single one.
- 11:18I respond to every single one.
- 11:20Sometimes it takes me a bit because I do get a lot,
- 11:23but I promise I will respond.
- 11:25And if you would like to say hello or introduce yourself or Or
- 11:29ask a question,
- 11:30I'd be happy to hear from you.
- 11:31brenna at the counselor dot com.
- 11:33I appreciate y'all.
- 11:34Have a great week.
- 11:35We'll talk again soon.
- 11:36Bye.
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