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Speaker 2: On July twentieth, nineteen seventy eight, twenty five year old
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Speaker 2: Mary Jimmy Shan, who everyone knew by her nickname Bobo,
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Speaker 2: was getting ready to sell a house. Bobo Shen was
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Speaker 2: born on January eleventh, nineteen fifty three. She had grown
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Speaker 2: up in Magnolia, Arkansas, with her parents, Mary Sue and
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Speaker 2: Gresham Shin, and they were very close. After she graduated
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Speaker 2: from Southern Arkansas University in nineteen seventy six, Bobo moved
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Speaker 2: back home with her parents and she started working two
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Speaker 2: jobs her regular job and her side gig. Bobo had
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Speaker 2: opened up a studio in downtown Magnolia where she taught
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Speaker 2: art classes. Her dad, Gresham, was a very successful motel developer,
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Speaker 2: and Bobo also shared an interest in real estate with
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Speaker 2: her dad. When we started to look into this case,
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Speaker 2: we found out from the beginning there were a lot
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Speaker 2: of things reported about this case that were incorrect and
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Speaker 2: that have stayed pretty much uncorrected for almost fifty years.
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Speaker 2: One of them was that Bobo was a real estate agent.
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Speaker 2: According to what Columbia County Sheriff Lowes said in twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty five, that wasn't true. She was not a real
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Speaker 2: estate agent. Aside from being an art instructor, Bobo would
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Speaker 2: flip houses on the side. She had bought a house
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Speaker 2: on East McNeil Street, and after doing some renovations, Bobo
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Speaker 2: was ready to sell it. She put a classified ad
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Speaker 2: in the Banner News. It read quote beginner's delight two
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Speaker 2: bedroom house completely remodeled, good location end quote. On the
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Speaker 2: morning of July twentieth, Bobo and her mom went for
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Speaker 2: a walk, just like they normally did. Bobo had plans
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Speaker 2: to see a friend later that day to play tennis.
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Speaker 2: But she was waiting to hear from a man who
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Speaker 2: had called about buying the house on East McNeil Street.
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Speaker 2: The man supposedly had a plot of land on Highway
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Speaker 2: one thirty two. He had told Bobo that he wanted
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Speaker 2: to sell that land in exchange for the house that
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Speaker 2: she had. On that day, the buyer called Bobo at
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Speaker 2: around eleven am. He told Bobo that his car was
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Speaker 2: being repaired at the Pawnee Car dealership in town. He
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Speaker 2: reportedly mentioned taking a cab, but Bobo said she would
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Speaker 2: give him a ride. Now, what exactly happened when is
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Speaker 2: something we're still trying to figure out. We're trying to
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Speaker 2: separate fact from rumor, but we do know some things
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Speaker 2: for sure. Bobo and this guy who claimed to be
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Speaker 2: a prospective buyer did make arrangements for her to pick
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Speaker 2: him up at the easy Mark across the street from
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Speaker 2: the Pontiac dealership. Before she left, According to Ay magazine,
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Speaker 2: Bobo told her friend that she would see her at
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Speaker 2: around one point thirty that afternoon, and before hanging up,
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Speaker 2: she jokingly said, quote, come look for me if I'm
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Speaker 2: not back this afternoon end quote. She never came back,
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Speaker 2: and her friends and family never saw her alive again.
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Speaker 2: I'm Catherine Townsend. Over the past eight years of making
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Speaker 2: my true crime podcast, Helen Gone, I've learned there is
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Speaker 2: Line in high, School bobo was a. Cheerleader she was
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Speaker 2: known among her friends as being kind and, fun but
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Speaker 2: also at the same, time she was serious and, responsible
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Speaker 2: and she was planning for the. Future that's why When
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Speaker 2: bobo didn't come home for dinner that, night her, Mother Mary,
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Speaker 2: sue immediately knew something was. Wrong, first her mom made
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Speaker 2: contact With bobo's, friend the one she'd been planning to
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Speaker 2: play tennis, with and figured out what went down With
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Speaker 2: bobo and the phone call from the guy claiming to
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Speaker 2: be a prospective house. Buyer according to the Log Cabin,
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Speaker 2: Democrat bobo talked to her friend shortly after eleven. Am
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Speaker 2: that was the last person that we know of who
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Speaker 2: spoke With bobo on the. Phone once police realized That
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Speaker 2: bobo was, missing they And bobo's family were trying to
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Speaker 2: piece together exactly what happened on that fateful morning and
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Speaker 2: When bobo's friend said that she Called bobo at her
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Speaker 2: art studio to see If bobo wanted to hang out that.
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Speaker 2: Afternoon bobo said, yes but that she wasn't sure if
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Speaker 2: she could do it or, not or if she, could
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Speaker 2: what time she would be. Finished she told her friend
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Speaker 2: she was waiting for the call from the man who
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Speaker 2: may want to buy the house on McNeil. Street this
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Speaker 2: buyer Told bobo he had property On highway one thirty,
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Speaker 2: two and then he suggested the swap her house for his.
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Speaker 2: Land shortly after they hung, Up bobo called her friend.
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Speaker 2: Again she said she had talked to the guy and
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Speaker 2: that his car was being. Repaired that's when she told
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Speaker 2: her friend she was planning to pick this guy up
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Speaker 2: at The Easy. Mart this is important because we Know
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Speaker 2: bobo was at her art studio when she talked to
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Speaker 2: her girlfriend and when she got the call from the.
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Speaker 2: Buyer bobo's, Sister linda believes That bobo may have stopped
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Speaker 2: at home first before going to meet the, buyer because
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Speaker 2: she Said bobo's curling iron was plugged in and her
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Speaker 2: makeup was. OUT a little after eleven am that, day
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Speaker 2: police were told that a man had come into The
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Speaker 2: Easy mart asking for change so that he could use the.
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Speaker 2: Payphone the description led to a composite of a white
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Speaker 2: male mid, twenties approximately five foot, eight about one hundred
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Speaker 2: and eighty five to two hundred, pounds with, dark curly.
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Speaker 2: Hair according To ay magazine's, reporting the employee also remembered
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Speaker 2: something distinctive about this man's, walk describing it as a lazy.
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Speaker 2: Gait one reported siding Placed bobo at The east McNeil
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Speaker 2: street house with a bearded man sometime late that. Morning
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Speaker 2: another report placed her at The Easy mart around eleven,
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Speaker 2: forty where a man who was believed to be the
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Speaker 2: prospective buyer got into her. Car after, That bobo was
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Speaker 2: reportedly seen at the traffic light At pine And Main.
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Speaker 2: Street after, that the trail goes. Cold bobo's, Mother Mary,
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Speaker 2: sushin called the, police and she started Calling bobo's, friends
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Speaker 2: but no one had seen. Her one Of bobo's close,
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Speaker 2: Friends Randy, avery called my podcast to talk to us
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Speaker 2: about her case and what he remembers from the days
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Speaker 2: after she went.
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Speaker 3: Missing SO i attended college In, magnolia which is Now
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Speaker 3: Southern Arkansas. University at the TIME i, attended it Was
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Speaker 3: Southern State, college AND i Believe bobo AND i started
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Speaker 3: our freshman year there at the same. Time in nineteen seventy.
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Speaker 3: ONE i was from a small town about forty miles,
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Speaker 3: away SO i didn't Know bobo prior to, college AND
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Speaker 3: i began dating a young lady that was very good
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Speaker 3: friends With, bobo WHO i later, married And bobo was
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Speaker 3: a bridesmaid in our, wedding And bobo began dating a
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Speaker 3: very good friend of. MINE i graduated in nineteen seventy.
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Speaker 3: FIVE i Think bobo graduated the following, year nineteen seventy.
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Speaker 3: Six nineteen seventy six is the year That bobo's friend
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Speaker 3: AND i got, married and we relocated From, magnolia first
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Speaker 3: To Little rock and then later To Hot. Springs we
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Speaker 3: still had contact With bobo and my. Friend it was her.
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Speaker 3: Boyfriend the four of us over the years did a
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Speaker 3: number of things together and went on camping. Trips so
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Speaker 3: we were In Hot springs When bobo disappeared there in
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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy, Eight SO i think it was probably the next,
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Speaker 3: Day july twenty, first nineteen seventy, eight when my then
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Speaker 3: wife got a call About, bobo AND i was working
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Speaker 3: out in the feild at the time and took off
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Speaker 3: work and we hustled down To, magnolia myself and my
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Speaker 3: friend who had been Dating, bobo And i'm sure multitudes
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Speaker 3: of other. People we took part in driving through the
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Speaker 3: rural areas Around, magnolia just hoping to see and find
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Speaker 3: anything that might help find, her and nothing was ever.
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Speaker 2: Found one of the places Where Mary sue searched while
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Speaker 2: looking for her daughter was The Jordan Brothers Pontiac, dealership
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Speaker 2: which is the place where the guy who was Meeting
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Speaker 2: bobo said his car was being. Repaired she talked to
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Speaker 2: a salesman, there someone who said they had seen a
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Speaker 2: car Like, bobo's a nineteen seventy Six buick s And
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Speaker 2: ann at around, noon and that a man got into
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Speaker 2: the Car, however the salesman did not say what this
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Speaker 2: man looked. Like but then the salesman Told Mary sue
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Speaker 2: that while he was driving, home he Saw bobo's car
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Speaker 2: parked in a back corner Of smitty's grocery. Store the
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Speaker 2: car had. Damage it had deep scratches and damage to
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Speaker 2: the left rear. Fender investigators also noticed plant debris inside the,
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Speaker 2: car which led them to believe that it may have
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Speaker 2: been driven somewhere off road and later. Abandoned once the
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Speaker 2: car salesman spotted the, car he stopped and noticed that
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Speaker 2: the door was. Unlocked according To ay, magazine he actually
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Speaker 2: recognized the car because he had sold it to The.
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Speaker 2: Shens he decided to look inside to see if it
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Speaker 2: Was bobo's. Vehicle when he did look, inside he Found
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Speaker 2: bobo's keys in the. Ignition bobo's purse with money still in,
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Speaker 2: it was inside the. Car her stuff was scattered around.
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Speaker 2: Everywhere underneath the brake, pedal there were white canvas tennis, shoes,
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Speaker 2: sunglasses and a paperback. Novel employees later confirmed they had
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Speaker 2: first Seen bobo's car At Smitty's grocery not long abut
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Speaker 2: after one. Pm, unfortunately the crime scene was not secured
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Speaker 2: until later that, afternoon around five or six, pm and
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Speaker 2: in that, time it has been reported multiple people went
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Speaker 2: through the, vehicle potentially disturbing crucial. Evidence soon everyone in
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Speaker 2: town Knew bobo was, missing and they all got together
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Speaker 2: to try to find.
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Speaker 4: Her, volunteers, friends, family and, local state and eventually federal
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Speaker 4: investigators all got involved in this search For.
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Speaker 2: Bobo missing posters went out With bobo's description on them
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Speaker 2: five foot, six one hundred and eighteen, pounds with a
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Speaker 2: scar on her left cheek and a birthmark on her,
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Speaker 2: forehead plus a description of the jewelry that she was,
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Speaker 2: wearing which included a Cuss May dimond. Necklace the hunt
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Speaker 2: was on For, bobo but also for this mystery home.
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Speaker 2: Buyer was he someone, local as law enforcement seemed to,
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Speaker 2: believe or could he have been passing through town randomly
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Speaker 2: and seen the ad and decided to Target. Bobo according
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Speaker 2: To ay, magazine police believed That bobo had met the
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Speaker 2: man once before before she saw him On july. Twentieth
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Speaker 2: they believed she showed him her house on McNeil street
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Speaker 2: for the first time the day, before On july, Nineteenth
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Speaker 2: so On july, twentieth when she offered to give this
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Speaker 2: man a ride that would have been a second. Viewing
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Speaker 2: this could be important in my, opinion because it signals two. Things,
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Speaker 2: One bobo obviously felt comfortable enough with this man to
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Speaker 2: see him a second time and to give him a
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Speaker 2: lift in her. Car and, two this seems like a
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Speaker 2: very risky move on his. Part how could he have
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Speaker 2: known that she wouldn't mention his name to anyone? One
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Speaker 2: what did he tell her when he looked at that?
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Speaker 2: House did he give her a fake? Name, also, he
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Speaker 2: in my, opinion took a huge risk picking her up
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Speaker 2: at a spot right across the street from her art
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Speaker 2: studio at The Easy. Mart there were mentions of some
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Speaker 2: early people of. Interest according to media, reports a carpenter
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Speaker 2: who worked across the street from the House bobo was
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Speaker 2: selling on McNeil street said that on the day she went,
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Speaker 2: missing he saw a man. There the carpenter described this
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Speaker 2: man as being, white twenty five to twenty eight years,
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Speaker 2: old with dark brown, hair a, beard and a, mustache
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Speaker 2: six foot one to six foot two inches tall and
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Speaker 2: around two hundred and fifteen to two hundred and twenty five,
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Speaker 2: pounds wearing a mesh baseball cap and driving a dark
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Speaker 2: Green pontiac with a light green vinyl, top maybe a
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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty nine or nineteen Seventy bonnieville Or catalina. Model
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Speaker 2: the carpenter said he saw this man With bobo between
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Speaker 2: around ten eleven, am but it was later reported that
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Speaker 2: this sighting might have been someone, else because apparently there
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Speaker 2: was a neighbor someone who went on a lunch break
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Speaker 2: at eleven thirty, am and this neighbor reportedly looked a
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Speaker 2: lot like the person the carpenter had, described so police
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Speaker 2: believed the carpenter may have seen the neighbor. Instead there
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Speaker 2: was another sighting of a stranger at The Easy mart
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Speaker 2: at ELEVEN, am a man who was described as, white
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Speaker 2: mid twenties with dark curly, hair about five foot eight inches,
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Speaker 2: tall weighing one hundred and eighty five to two hundred.
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Speaker 2: Pounds this man came into the store at around eleven.
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Speaker 2: Am he asked for a quarter to use the payphone
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Speaker 2: so that he could make a. Call according to what
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Speaker 2: the employee told the, police he made a call on
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Speaker 2: that payphone and left after about five. Minutes the timing
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Speaker 2: interested law enforcement because this would have been approximately the
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Speaker 2: time When bobo got the. Call from the man who
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Speaker 2: wanted to see the, house and The easy Mart is
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Speaker 2: where they arranged to. Meet this timeline has been one
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Speaker 2: of the hardest things to pin down because we don't
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Speaker 2: have any access to the case. File this is still
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Speaker 2: an open. Investigation we do have a few things to
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Speaker 2: Anchor bobo's, day namely the two calls from her, girlfriend
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Speaker 2: the sighting of her at the McNeil street, home probably
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Speaker 2: sometime shortly after eleven. Am the salesman from the dealership
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Speaker 2: told police he Found bobo's car At Smitty's grocery at
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Speaker 2: around one. Pm remember we said before that among the
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Speaker 2: items found in the car were these white canvas tennis.
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Speaker 2: Shoes there were rumors that they may not have Been,
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Speaker 2: bobo's but police said later this probably was not true
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Speaker 2: because there were also sunglasses and a novel found inside the,
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Speaker 2: car And bobo's dad Said bobo would sometimes spend time
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Speaker 2: at one of the motels he made and she would
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Speaker 2: lie out by the, pool so the tennis, shoes sunglasses
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Speaker 2: and books were probably in the car for that. Reason
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Speaker 2: bobo's wallet was still in the purse with all of
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Speaker 2: the money, inside so robbery did not appear to be
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Speaker 2: the motive. Here in, fact all Of bobo's stuff was
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Speaker 2: still in that. Car, however there was one thing of
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Speaker 2: hers that was not in the. Car bobo's address, book
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Speaker 2: which she carried with her, everywhere was. Missing they never
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Speaker 2: found that address. BOOK i do wonder could it have
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Speaker 2: had the name of the Man bobo was meeting that.
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Speaker 2: Day investigators never found out who that person. Was police
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Speaker 2: started to investigate the damage done to the car to
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Speaker 2: see if they could find any physical. Evidence Ay magazine
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Speaker 2: reported that in addition to the damage to the, fender
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Speaker 2: there were seeds and bits of grass inside the. Vehicle
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Speaker 2: over the, years the case went cold and became infamous
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Speaker 2: in the. Region bobo's, disappearance along With Maud crawford's disappearance
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Speaker 2: in fayettvill was one of the biggest cold cases in
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Speaker 2: that region Of, arkansas and, federal, state and local authorities
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Speaker 2: all got, involved but they didn't say very, much just
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Speaker 2: that foul play was. Suspected but over the, Years Columbia
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Speaker 2: County Sheriff Mike lowe said police followed tons of leads
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Speaker 2: and never stopped working the. Case Sheriff lowe was working
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Speaker 2: with The Arkansas State police When bobo, disappeared he worked
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Speaker 2: on it way back. Then, later after he retired from THE,
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Speaker 2: asp he became sheriff Of Columbia, county so he started
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Speaker 2: working the case. AGAIN a few months After bobo, disappeared
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Speaker 2: The shins hired a private investigator Named William deer who
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Speaker 2: was based In. Dallas, now this would prove to be
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Speaker 2: a hugely controversial. Move as we've often discussed in this,
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Speaker 2: podcast relationships between police and the private investigators hired by
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Speaker 2: the family can get complicated. Fast i've looked up a
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Speaker 2: lot of old newspaper articles to try to put together
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Speaker 2: what went, down and it seems like at first there
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Speaker 2: was kind of a grudging respect between law enforcement And
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Speaker 2: William deer and his team of. Detectives the sheriff at
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Speaker 2: the time made comments to journalists About William deere being,
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Speaker 2: professional but that fell apart at some. Point After William
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Speaker 2: deere publicly announced On november, twentieth nineteen seventy, nine that
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Speaker 2: he had a, Suspect William dear stated it was someone
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Speaker 2: who had taken his own life a few months After bobo.
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Speaker 2: Vanished it was later reported the dead man Who William
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Speaker 2: deeer was referring to was a man Named Michael. Morse
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Speaker 2: William dear spoke To michael's, Mother, karen and asked her
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Speaker 2: if she would be willing to open up her late husband's.
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Speaker 2: Grave Apparently William dear had gotten a Tip bobo could
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Speaker 2: be buried, there, so along With Sam, tatum the director
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Speaker 2: at the time of The State Crime, commission and some
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Speaker 2: other local, Authorities William deer was there when the grave
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Speaker 2: Of Michael morris's father was. Opened Karen morris told The
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Speaker 2: Batesville guard when she Gave William dear permission to open that,
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Speaker 2: grave that she was never told that he considered her, Son,
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Speaker 2: michael a suspect unbeknownst to. Her according to The Batesville,
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Speaker 2: Guard William dear got that tip About bobo being buried
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Speaker 2: in the grave from a, psychic, which if, true and
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Speaker 2: this is just my, opinion does make me question Why
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Speaker 2: William dear took that tip so. Seriously at some, Point
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Speaker 2: William dear in The shin family guarded. Ways The Jonesborough
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Speaker 2: star reported in nineteen eighty six That William deer had
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Speaker 2: also butted heads with then Prosecutor Mike, kennard and that
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Speaker 2: the bad blood went both. Ways William deere was openly
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Speaker 2: stating he didn't believe the police investigation was up to.
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Speaker 2: Scratch the prosecutor denied that and also said that Quote
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Speaker 2: deer's actions and the publicity hurt prospects for any prosecution end.
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Speaker 2: Quote In december of nineteen seventy, six The Batesville guard
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Speaker 2: did a follow up on The Michael morse. Rimmers they
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Speaker 2: reported That Russell, welch a former state police, investigator told
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Speaker 2: the newspaper that authorities had spoken To Michael morse before
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Speaker 2: he took his own life and that they were quote
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Speaker 2: satisfied that he was not involved in Miss schen's disappearance end.
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Speaker 2: Quote Russell welch went on to explain a little more
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Speaker 2: about how the police investigated that. Tip he said police
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Speaker 2: got an anonymous tip Stating Michael morse matched the description
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Speaker 2: of the man Whom bobo was planning to. Meet Russell
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Speaker 2: welch said they Questioned Michael moose and That michael did
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Speaker 2: not match the description of the house. Hunter, also he
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Speaker 2: Said Michael morse had an alibi for the Day bobo.
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Speaker 2: Disappeared Michael morse's, Mother, karenne and his, Widow Norma mors
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Speaker 2: ended up finally a two million dollar lawsuit Against William
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Speaker 2: deer And Sam, tatum the director of The State Crime,
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Speaker 2: commission alleging they falsely Accused michael of abducting and Murdering Bobo.
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Speaker 2: Shin bobo's father has put up several rewards over the.
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Speaker 2: Years after she went, missing he immediately offered a reward
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Speaker 2: in connection with her, case ten thousand dollars for any
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Speaker 2: information involving her location and twenty five thousand dollars for
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Speaker 2: her safe. Return The shns reportedly never hired another private.
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Speaker 2: Investigator after three years of doing everything they could think
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Speaker 2: of to, do they told their other children they were
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Speaker 2: ready to start focusing on their living family again and
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Speaker 2: letting law enforcement do their. Jobs in twenty twenty, two
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Speaker 2: forty four years After bobo, vanished the news CHANNEL ktve
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Speaker 2: did an interview With. Sherifflow he gave the news channel
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Speaker 2: some details about some of the evidence that was found
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Speaker 2: inside the. Car the article states there was, gravel, dirt,
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Speaker 2: grass and fingerprints. Found the article reads quote fingerprints were
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Speaker 2: found inside but have yet to be. Identified low indicated
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Speaker 2: the person who committed the crime was a local end.
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Speaker 2: Quote my question is how did he know? That if
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Speaker 2: the fingerprints weren't. Identified the sheriff, said, quote the best
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Speaker 2: timeline that we can put together from the time she
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Speaker 2: disappeared until the time her vehicle showed back up At
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Speaker 2: smithy's grocery store parking lot is approximately fifty seven, minutes
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Speaker 2: so that vehicle didn't go very. Far in, quote if
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Speaker 2: whoever Took bobo drove her or her body somewhere else
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Speaker 2: and then returned the, car the sheriff is, right they
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Speaker 2: could not have gone too. Far there was one more.
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Speaker 2: Tip law enforcement published photos Of bobo's, car and after they,
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Speaker 2: did they got a call from The Columbia county assessor
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Speaker 2: who said he was bailing hay on property Near highway
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Speaker 2: thirty two the day of the, disappearance at around. Noon
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Speaker 2: he said at that time he saw a blue car
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Speaker 2: with what appeared to be a man and a woman
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Speaker 2: struggling inside. It could she have been in a hay
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Speaker 2: field somewhere because The Magnolia reporter article, stated in addition
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Speaker 2: to the scratches on the, car there was a coating
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Speaker 2: of dust on the vehicle and that on the driver's
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Speaker 2: side floorboard there were pieces of hay that appeared to
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Speaker 2: have broken off when the door was, Closed Bobo shin
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Speaker 2: was never. Found none of her remains were ever. Found
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Speaker 2: because of, that investigators had no body and no primary crime,
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Speaker 2: scene only a, car a phantom house, buyer and a
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Speaker 2: few pieces of. Hay who was the man who Called
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Speaker 2: bobo to see the house that? Day could he have
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Speaker 2: been someone randomly passing through, town someone who took advantage
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Speaker 2: of a woman showing a house, alone or was this
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Speaker 2: as former Sheriff low has, said he believes someone, local
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Speaker 2: someone Stalking. Bobo bobo's sister Told ay magazine that their
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Speaker 2: mother would not leave the house for years unless she
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Speaker 2: could be sure someone was home to answer the phone
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Speaker 2: in Case bobo. Called Both bobo's mother and her father
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Speaker 2: are dead, now and their tombstones are next To, bobo's
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Speaker 2: But bobo's friends in the community have not forgotten. Her
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Speaker 2: in twenty, fourteen on the thirty sixth anniversary of her,
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Speaker 2: disappearance they held a celebration of life for. Her they
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Speaker 2: hope that maybe someone listening to this will remember someone
26:49
Speaker 2: acting oddly that, day or maybe that a customed diamond
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Speaker 2: necklace will show up, somewhere maybe in a hope. Chest,
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Speaker 2: eventually The Pontiac dealership became A japanese. Restaurant The Easy
27:01
Speaker 2: mart store turned into a. Barbershop in twenty twenty, five
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Speaker 2: at a press, conference police announced they conducted a. Search
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Speaker 2: Now Former Sheriff, flow who is still involved in the,
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Speaker 2: investigation stated law enforcement had searched somewhere in The Bussy charman,
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Speaker 2: area which is ON Us highway three seventy one between
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Speaker 2: the towns Of magnolia And. Taylor the sheriff stated at
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Speaker 2: a press conference he wanted to dispel some rumors about this,
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Speaker 2: case including one in particular involving a man Named Jimmy Ray.
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Speaker 2: Watson this man was described as a house painter who
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Speaker 2: had lived On Columbia County road east Of. Taylor Jimmy
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Speaker 2: Ray watson passed away On july twenty, nine twenty twenty,
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Speaker 2: five at the age of seventy. Three according to The Magnolia,
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Speaker 2: Reporter Sheriff lowe, said, QUOTE i wanted to tell everyone
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Speaker 2: that all this false information leads us down rabbit. Holes
27:55
Speaker 2: we investigate, rumors it takes off time that we should
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Speaker 2: be investigating real. Information we do want to bring closure
28:02
Speaker 2: to the. Family we do want to bring justice to
28:05
Speaker 2: all involved in. Quote the sheriff added he grew up
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Speaker 2: With Jimmy watson and they went to school. Together the
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Speaker 2: sheriff gave a statement about the search that was a
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Speaker 2: little bit cryptic in my. Opinion he, said, quote we
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Speaker 2: didn't find what we were looking, for but we learned
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Speaker 2: a few. Things what we learn is moving us. Forward in,
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Speaker 2: quote the sheriff said it wasn't a tip that had
28:28
Speaker 2: led to this, search but quote it was me putting
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Speaker 2: two and two together end. Quote he confirmed that he
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Speaker 2: had requested a cadaver dog from THE, fbi which they had.
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Speaker 2: Provided the cadaver dog did discover something and that led
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Speaker 2: to law enforcement of vacuating the, area but they didn't
28:46
Speaker 2: find anything of Evidence cherry. Value The Columbia County sheriff's
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Speaker 2: office is still working this. Case Mike low said he
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Speaker 2: has sent evidence to THE fbi over the. Years he
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Speaker 2: remains hopeful THAT dna technology could provide a much needed.
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Speaker 2: Break the Current sheriff Of Columbia, County Leroy, martin has
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Speaker 2: stated this is still an open and active. Investigation they
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Speaker 2: have asked that anyone with any information that could help
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Speaker 2: Locate bobo or her remains please reach out to The
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Speaker 2: Columbia County Sheriff's office at eight seven oh two three
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Speaker 2: four five three three. One you can also email info
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Speaker 2: At Columbia County sheriff dot. Org I'm Catherine. Townsend this
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