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127) Why the 9 to 5 Doesn’t Work for People with ADHD ( But Perfect for Digital Nomads ) · Digital Nomad Life Podcast

• 3:35
  SPEAKER_00: Hey there and welcome to the Digital Nomad Life Podcast.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Krista, also known as Kristabella Travels on social media.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: I always say that at the beginning of every episode because I want to encourage you to send me a DM if you have any questions at all about digital nomadism and how it could apply to your life.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_00: Whether that is you coming up with a business idea that will allow you to be totally remote and also do something that you actually like, or if it's about your lifestyle, if you want to talk about travel and how to, you know, be as productive as possible while on the road, I got you.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_00: Your questions inspire so many podcast episodes.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_00: And this particular episode is no different.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_00: I have been having so many conversations lately with people, actually, not so much people sliding into my DMs, more so people that are working with me, my clients, right?
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: So my clients, the vast majority of them resonate with having ADHD, myself included.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I have just been having so many conversations about it, about how to manage it, how to accept it, how to love it, how to leverage it as a vehicle to success as an entrepreneur, and how to step out of the mental model that corporate has shoved down everybody's throats, saying that you need to wake up at 9 a.m.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: every day and that you gotta work until five.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_00: And that if you're not doing productive work for eight hours every day, you're a failure and you better follow the rules and you better do things like this and you better show up on time and like this corporate way of thinking simply does not work for people with ADHD.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_00: And that's why almost 30% of entrepreneurs identify with having ADHD, while only 4% of the overall population resonate with having it.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm making this episode because there is a disproportionate number of people who are entrepreneurs that have ADHD.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_00: And personally, there are there are no studies backing up what I'm about to say, by the way, because there are no studies on digital nomads.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_00: But as someone who has traveled to 70 countries over the past 13 years of my own digital nomad journey and meeting thousands of digital nomads, I have a strong, strong suspicion that maybe even more than 30% of digital nomads have ADHD.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_00: It just makes sense, right?
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_00: These are people who are novelty seekers, people who are impulsive, people who are risk takers, people who are thrill seekers, love high-stimulating environments, people who are out-of-the-box thinkers, people who are creative and who are seeking dopamine.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_00: All of these traits are commonalities between digital nomads and ADHDers.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_00: So again, I think that if you are listening to this episode, there's a strong possibility that you too may have ADHD, whether you've been diagnosed or not, whether you plan to be diagnosed or not.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_00: So I want to make this episode to share with you a lot of practical things that you can do to use your ADHD as a superpower, a way that you can leverage your ADHD symptoms to create the life of your absolute dreams.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: Because if I can do it as someone who, you know, I haven't been diagnosed, but have strong exhibitions of ADHD symptoms, uh, specifically inattentive ADHD.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm literally always late for freaking everything, can get so distracted doing what I'm doing, but I also can be hyper, hyper, hyper, hyper, hyper focused on things that I want, on things that I'm motivated to do.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_00: But if I'm not motivated, can't freaking do it.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_00: Just can't get behind it.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_00: I am like that.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: Missing the bus all the time as a child, doodling all over my workbooks, all over my homework, never doing my homework, never wanting to follow the rules.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_00: Someone who is just chasing my life highs all the time, just chasing dopamine.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like, why do you think I've traveled to 70 countries?
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so um I am someone who, and maybe you can even tell by the way that I'm speaking right now, the way that I'm switching subjects like this.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, hi, I'm Krista, and I am an undiagnosed ADHD person.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_00: I don't plan on getting diagnosed because I don't think that it matters.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_00: I don't plan on medicating for it because I think that having ADHD is fucking fire.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_00: Excuse my language.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I hope that you find it that way too.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_00: So again, I want you to walk away from this episode with practical things that you can do to leverage your ADHD symptoms.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I also just want to give you full permission to pursue the life of your dreams as a neurospicy person.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: As I mentioned earlier on this episode, a lot of my clients resonate with having ADHD.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_00: And the conversations that we have about it sometimes are they're really fun and exciting, but other times they make me sad because I'm like, damn, all these people are out here thinking that they're broken, thinking that they're just operating inherently wrongly.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: And I just think that is so uncool that society, that corporate has been shoving down our throats that we all need to operate in a specific way in order to achieve success.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like for me, when I was working in corporate, one of my traumas from working in corporate was that I would have to commute underground for, I don't know, 30 minutes every single day.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_00: And when I got to work finally, I would have to sign in the minute that I got there.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: And everybody else had to sign in too.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: So if somebody else got there at 9.05, I couldn't lie and say that I got there at 9.03.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_00: I would have to write that I got there at 9.06 because it was all in order based on when people showed up.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_00: And just for me, like being anywhere from five to 20 minutes late every single day, I just for me, I'm like, why is this such a big deal?
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: Why does this matter to people?
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, if I don't have a meeting, like if I need an extra five minutes in the morning to have a cup of coffee, because I just I'm not a morning person.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_00: I literally never have been.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_00: I don't see myself ever being one.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what isn't it better that I can function properly rather than sitting in my desk?
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: But this is this is a very ADHD type thought.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: And normal, neurotypical people don't think that way.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: So this was um, when I say this was one of my traumas, this was something that made me feel like I was so wrong in the way that I operate in the world.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I see it in my clients all the time too.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: I just had a conversation with one of my clients the other day who was talking about how she's been really frustrated at herself that she isn't opening her laptop barely until noon, and that she feels like that's unacceptable because how can she ever start her business?
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: How can she ever like thrive in her business?
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: She's doing fine.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: She's got clients and everything, um, but she's just feeling not good enough.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: And we went through actually, we analyzed her day because, you know, if someone tells me, hey, I have this problem, I'm not even opening my laptop until noon and I don't know what to do about it, I'll be like, okay, let's analyze the full day and see what it is that you're doing.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: And it turns out she's actually working like 30 hours a week, which is a lot for someone with your own business.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll explain why that is a lot in a second.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, after we fully inspected what her work ethic is actually like, we realized or she realized that the fact that she's opening her laptop at noon is actually conducive to her getting more work done.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_00: Because on the days when she forces herself to open up her laptop at nine, like she quote, is supposed to, she doesn't get as much done because she's groggy in the morning, her inner fire isn't turned on yet, she's not as creative.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_00: Whereas if she just slept in the way that she needs to, without an alarm clock, if she takes care of her body first by going to the gym and then she opens up her laptop when it's right for her, she can turn on the hyperactivity focus of her ADHD and smash out so much work within a few hours.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_00: So, to me, as someone who has fully accepted that I'm very likely neurodivergent and this is just the way that I am, and I'm gonna leverage it as a strength.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_00: When she tells that to me, I'm like, yeah, girl, like that sounds amazing.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: But she's over there telling herself that she's wrong for behaving in that way.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so a big, really big reason why I wanted to make this episode too is because I I want to, I hope, to adjust your mindset.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: I want to adjust your thinking so that again, you don't have to make yourself wrong for being a little bit different.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_00: You can build your life around your neurodivergencies.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: You can build your career around your neurodivergencies and make it all work for you just like I have.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_00: So, if there is one sentence I want you to walk away from this episode with, it is this stop trying to fix what is broken within you.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: You're not actually broken, you're just a little bit different.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: So let's make your life fit around the things about you that are different so that you can stop being wrong.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: You are not broken.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: This system just wasn't made for your special uniqueness.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: And that's fine.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: Personally, I get so much pleasure off of the fact that I have built my business and my life around my quirks, around my quote problems and quote weaknesses.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_00: Or at least that's what my old corporate environment and old school experience used to feel like, that they were problems and weaknesses.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: So um, yeah, anyway, you can do this too.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_00: You can also build a life so that you never have to be wrong for being a night owl.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_00: You never have to be wrong for not being a morning person.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_00: You get to be right for all of those things and let your business thrive around these aspects of you.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I want to just quickly go over um some basics around ADHD, like a little bit of 101.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: So um, because I think before we go into talking about how to work around ADHD, I want you to know that I resonate with having one particular type, but you might resonate with having another type.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_00: So there's basically two, three types of it.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: There's predominantly inattentive, and then there's predominantly hyperactive impulsive ADHD, and they're different.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_00: Or you could have a mix of both.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so inattentive, this is again what I resonate with.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: This is when you just cannot focus on something that is not interesting to you.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: You might feel highly disorganized, you might lose track of things, you might feel like you're pretty spacey or checked out sometimes.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's like daydreaming, doodling.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: And this is a the quieter kind of ADHD, which more women tend to have and girls.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: And because it's more quiet, it goes undiagnosed more.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: So you might be a woman in your 30s listening to this, your 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, whatever.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: And if you can think back to being a young girl and doodling all over your worksheets in school, or you know, never being able to pay attention in class because you actually were daydreaming instead, then you might have inattentive ADHD.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: And again, that is okay, right?
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, it's okay if you lose stuff sometimes.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: That doesn't mean that you're gonna be a bad entrepreneur.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, the other kind of ADHD is the hyperactive impulsive one.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: And this is the one that's more visible.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe it's the one where we we think, oh, that's ADHD.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: That person is running around, that person has too much energy in them.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: That person is so fidgety, that person's always interrupting, they're restless.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_00: So that's what I think people commonly think ADHD is, but I just want you to know that that's just one type.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and the next thing that I want you to know is this acronym, which is INCUP, which stands for the specific set of triggers that ADHD people can be motivated by.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: So it's different than the average person, right?
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like a neurotypical person is motivated by importance.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: If something is important, then they will do it.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: For example, you might know that your taxes are important.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: I know that my taxes are important, but my taxes do not interest me.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's the I.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: They're not novel to me.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, they are a challenge, but it's not a challenge I want to solve.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, urgent, okay, there is a deadline.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes, if I am gonna do my taxes, it's because I have a deadline, right?
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: And passion, I'm not passionate about my taxes.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: Therefore, they are something that I don't end up doing often.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's like normal people or neurotypical people will do their taxes by the first deadline because they know that it's important.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: ADHD people don't.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: So again, the acronym is INCUP.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: It stands for interest, novelty, challenge, urgency, and passion.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: Now, these are important to talk about when we are discussing entrepreneurship because entrepreneurship is something that also is very different than being a corporate employee.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: When you are a corporate employee and you are given an assignment, that assignment might be important to the organization.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: That assignment might be important for you to, I don't know, prove yourself or something in the organization.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: But if it's if it's a task that you don't find interesting, you don't have any genuine curiosity about that, about that task, you're gonna be less likely to do it.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: If that in if that task that you've been given also is not novel to you, like maybe it's something that has been very repetitive for you, or feels redundant, feels monotonous.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: These are words that a lot of ADHD people use to describe the corporate world, or words that they use to describe the white picket fence life, right?
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like monotony is is the is the worst thing ever to a person with ADHD because people with ADHD seek novelty.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: They want things that are new, different, unfamiliar.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: And again, that's why I think a lot of digital nomads also probably have ADHD because there's so much novelty when it comes to digital nomading.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, the next one is challenge.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: So if you were given that task in your corporate environment and um, it's not necessarily challenging, like it's just busy work for you.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: You just need to be sitting down and doing it, but your brain isn't firing, you're not learning anything new, you're not needing to activate the use of your ability to solve puzzles or to have your inner engineer turned on.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't find that task challenging, again, it's it's gonna be really boring for you and you're gonna be way less motivated to actually do it.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_00: You might be motivated to get your busy work done if there is a very real reason to get it done right now.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: So you could have all week to get your busy work done, but you might actually save it till the very, very, very last hour because you know it can technically be done in an hour.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: And even though you know it's gonna stress you the F out to do it in the final hour, it's only in that final hour that you will feel enough urgency.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: That's the U and I and C U P.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: That is the only time you will feel enough urgency, the imminent, immediate deadline that is happening in one hour.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a vague deadline, it's it's happening.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's on the clock, it's on the calendar.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: That is when you will be motivated to do it.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_00: But if you don't have that kind of urgency, you're probably not going to be motivated.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: And then the final thing is passion.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: So this is something that I really, really struggled with at one of my corporate jobs.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: I got this job because I thought I would be passionate about it.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: It was travel public relations.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I thought that was so cool because I had always had a passion for travel.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: But it was the kind of travel that I was promoting just felt really uninteresting to me.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: It felt very superficial and materialistic.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: So therefore, I fell out of passion with my job.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: And then it was like that suddenly made every single day feel monotonous, feel uninspiring.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember before I actually got let go from that job, that my boss had a conversation with me saying, you know, Krista, I feel like you just don't have urgency here.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I was kind of like, what?
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like I could not understand what he was saying at the time because at that time I could not see how I had ADHD.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because did I say this earlier that I had gotten tested when I was a kid, um, when I was like a teenager, and they said, no, you don't have it.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: They said, no, I don't have it, because actually the kind of ADHD that I believe I have is inattentive and that doesn't show up as well.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's not as visible, especially in girls, and they weren't testing for women in that way previously.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: So I was moving through my life thinking that I didn't have ADHD, being convinced that I didn't have ADHD.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: Therefore, I had no idea that I should be leveraging the INCUP interest, novelty, challenge, urgency, passion to be successful.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: But my corporate career, my corporate job didn't give me that stuff.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like I would get stuff done if I really needed to get it done right now.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but in corporate, that's not a great way to be because they're paying you to be in your office for eight hours a day and they want you to get as much done.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: So the in corporate, they expect you to always have urgency because neurotypical people don't need that in order to get things done.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: They can get things done purely because it's important.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_00: They can get things done purely because they're supposed to.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_00: They can get things done purely because they should, purely because that's the rules.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: ADHD people don't have that.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: They don't care about the rules.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: They don't care about if something is important.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: They only care if it's interesting, if it's novel, if it's challenging, if it's urgent, and if they're passionate about it.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: So I wanted to really emphasize those things because my campaign in this episode is to show you how entrepreneurship can really satisfy all of those things, especially when the kind of business that you're creating is one that is truly something that you are passionate about, something that does interest you.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: And um I'm gonna use this as a little moment to briefly pitch you on my business, on what I do.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: Because what I do is I help people tune into what are they interested in, what are they passionate about, what is a challenge that they would love to rise to the occasion about, what would feel novel to them.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I help people get clear on what is a business that will inspire them to want to work, even if they have ADHD.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know if you have ever heard me talk about my career assessment process.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: Basically, this is for people who know they want to have the digital nomad lifestyle.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: They know they want to work remotely from anywhere, they know they want to have a business, but they don't know what business to create.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: Side note people probably usually don't know what business they want to create because they have ADHD and have been in corporate this whole time and have been making themselves wrong this whole time.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_00: People that have ADHD that work in corporate feel like they are not good enough constantly.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_00: And when you feel like you're not good enough, it's very, very hard for you to see what you're good for.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: At.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: But luckily, I believe in ADHDers.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: I believe the ADHD people can have amazing thriving businesses if they are interested in the thing.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: And that's that's what I do in the career assessment.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: Essentially, I have you fill out this huge, huge intake form.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, this form is going to take you like five hours to fill out.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: This is not a little questionnaire.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: This is like a deep dive into your psyche, your past experiences, your major life stories, things that you've done at work, things that you're interested in, not interested in.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, I ask you if you're neurodivergent.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: Once you fill out all of that information, then you and I can get on a phone call and a Zoom call.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: I'll review your career assessment quote homework.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: And we'll have a deep, deep conversation about who you authentically are, who you always have been, what's been challenging for you, what's been exciting for you.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: And then I will suggest to you.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: Usually I'll give you like one to four business ideas on that call that are aligned with what I've learned about you in that conversation.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: And this is an incredibly effective experience.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: I would say it has a 90% success rate.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: When I say success rate, I mean out of that 90%, 50% of people walk away being like, oh my God, Eureka.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I know what business I want to create.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: And then 40% of people are like, oh wow, I feel like I have a way stronger direction now than I did before.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_00: I need to do a little bit more exploring, but I feel like I know what I'm where I'm going.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: And then 10% of people, I'm not going to say it has a 100% success rate because it doesn't.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes people are so deep in the not knowing who they are that I don't get enough information on that call.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_00: And then I need them to go do more exploration of their psyche.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: And then we can talk about it again.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_00: But eventually, eventually we get there.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: It might take some time, but eventually we get there.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: Eventually, especially if you join the Digital Nomad Life Academy, where you don't just book the one-off career assessment call, but you actually are coached by me over the course of the year, you will have a business that you really like, that you feel really interested in, that you feel that you have a growing passion for, that you can put things on your calendar that are urgent and then feel excited to rise to the occasion, that you feel inspired to learn new things because business is challenging, which is why it's so great for ADHDers.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so when you start a location-independent business, especially if it's one that you are truly interested in.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: And again, if you don't know what you're interested in, that's why you should do a career assessment call with me.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_00: I will help you get clear on what are the things that are going to be most interesting to you.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: And now you can guess that your business is going to be something that inspires you and interests you, even if you have ADHD.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: Building a business is full of novelty because you're always learning new things, especially because the kind of business that I always encourage my clients to go into, the one that's the easiest and fastest to set up, is a solopreneur type business where you are essentially doing everything yourself, at least in the first year.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: So that means that you're gonna be constantly having to learn new things, which also draws in the challenge aspect of ADHD.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like you are gonna need to rise to the occasion over and over and over and over and over again.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_00: That thought terrifies neurotypical people, by the way.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um I want to make, I want to say something.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_00: There's this statistic out there that says that 80% of businesses fail.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's because 80% of people are neurotypical.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_00: More than 80% of people are neurotypical.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_00: More than 80% of people do not feel motivated by novelty, they feel motivated by importance.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: But when you have your own business, um, everything is important.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like literally everything is important.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_00: So it can feel very overwhelming for a neurotypical person.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_00: But for an ADHD person, when you have your business and you're constantly needing to learn how to do all these new things, it can feel uh intoxicating.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: It can feel so exciting, thrilling even.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_00: Have you ever considered putting the word thrilling next to your career?
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like your job title plus thrilling.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: Can you imagine?
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_00: Because that is truly what is possible for you if you are an ADHD or that is starting your own interest and passion-based business.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_00: Now, um, okay, something else that I want to say that I want to make really clear is just because you have ADHD, that doesn't mean that your business is going to succeed.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_00: It does just mean that you're more likely to start one.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: Because entrepreneurship is highly appealing to ADHD people for all of those reasons.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: Again, interest, novelty, challenge, passion.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_00: But there's the the C, right?
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_00: No, sorry, the U in the INCUP acronym, which is urgency.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_00: Now, this is why I think entrepreneurship can feel pretty sticky, especially for new entrepreneurs and even myself included.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um there's a lot of consistency that's needed when you are months or years into your business.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: Me, for example, like you will see me missing some weeks of my podcast.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_00: And it's because I actually know that I can kind of post a podcast at any time.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_00: And therefore, the urgency for me to do it is not really there.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, unless I'm unless I set a goal for myself where I'm like, okay, I want to have three podcast episodes done by the time I get on that airplane, then you mark my words.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: I will have those three episodes done.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_00: But I need to create a lot of urgency in my life.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_00: I need to manufacture it, honestly, in order to motivate me.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: And that can be pretty challenging.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_00: The years in my business when I was making the most money was when there was a lot of urgency in the work that I was doing.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_00: I used to run my business where I would only open the doors to the DNLA two times per year.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_00: And that would mean that half of the money that I would make all year would happen in January or in June.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_00: So that actually created a lot of stress in my life, but also a lot of urgency.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_00: And because of that urgency, I rose to the occasion, I accepted the challenge, and I hyper-focused on the task at hand, which was opening the doors to my coaching program.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I fucking smashed it.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_00: I like was making so much money those years.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_00: It was amazing.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, ultimately, my personal goal in my life and in my career is to have a super regulated nervous system that's like a number one priority for me.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_00: So I decided to actually change my business model now so that the doors to the DNLA are open all the time.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_00: I do often run sales and I run specials and um I do giveaways and things all the time to create urgency for me and for my customers in order to actually say yes to the to the program.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_00: But um yeah, I don't love having a lot of urgency in the way that I work, but therefore it does actually make it harder for me to make as much money as I used to.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm just sharing that super transparently, very vulnerably, because I want you to know that as someone with ADHD, like I do have struggles and the struggle is real.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like there are a lot of things that make having ADHD pretty challenging.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but the point of this episode and what I always share with my clients, and just what I feel really passionately about is you can leverage these things.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: If you know that urgency and deadlines on your calendar is something that is highly motivating to you because you resonate with having ADHD, you can use that information to your advantage.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: So for me, like I don't have these big launches twice a year anymore, but I do always do something for Black Friday.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_00: I do usually do something in the springtime to celebrate the beginning of summer because I believe that summer is the best time to get started with a business like this.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I also live internationally.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: And when I travel over the summers, I'm usually gone for two or three months.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_00: I know I want to get as much done when I'm still at my home base in Bali before I get on my plane.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: So um, like I will be a content machine for the two months prior to me getting on that airplane because my ADHD says, hey, this is urgent.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_00: We we know we're not gonna have as conducive of a work environment when we travel.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: So let's get as much done now as possible.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_00: And again, I think that also is another reason why digital nomads probably tend to have ADHD more than regular people too, because they're when when you're when you're living abroad, when you're living out of a suitcase, like there's a lot of natural deadlines that happen in your life that can motivate you to get shit done.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I was just on a road trip last month.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I took a spontaneous road trip.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: If you you can go see about it on my Instagram.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, all three of us are location independent business owners.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_00: It was me, obviously a career coach, um, Jenny, who has a marketing agency, like an influencer marketing agency, and Glenn, who is a corporate lawyer.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_00: And all three of us, again, we have our own location independent businesses, and we all resonate with having ADHD.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_00: So it was really funny because like we would be like, oh my God, the Red Woods.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, we're going on this trip.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: This is so fun.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_00: This is so amazing.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_00: Oh shit, guys, I have a call coming up.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_00: Quick, quick, quick, quick, quick.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_00: We need to find a place to pull over and park the car so that I can get on a call.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_00: And so I get on my coaching call, right?
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_00: Because I the calls are on my calendar.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_00: I have to work during those hours.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: They're urgent, they're on the calendar.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_00: And for Jenny and Glenn, they knew that they had 90 minutes, because that was how long I was gonna be on the call to get their shit done.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_00: So it would be like we'd be having this super fun day.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_00: We'd be so free-spirited, we'd be having so much fun.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_00: And then we pull over to the side of the road, we find the Wi-Fi, we all get as much work done as we can in 90 minutes.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_00: And that's also thrilling.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's thrilling to have that urgency in there when you have ADHD.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe someone who's neurotypical would find that frustrating or exhausting.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_00: But again, if you have ADHD, you might find this a really cool, exciting way to be getting your work done.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I just think that is like a really funny, cool, fun way to think about it.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_00: And um, yeah, so that is basically what's motivated an ADHD brain.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_00: We've talked about interest, novelty, challenge, urgency, and passion is the last one.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I hope that you know and understand that the reason why I have the business that I have is because I'm just genuinely so passionate about helping people live lives of passion.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'm passionate about passion.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_00: I love life.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_00: I love, I love adventure, I love being able to explore, I love having fun, I love meeting people, I love challenging myself, I love opening my mind to new concepts.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I know that there are so many other people out there like me who feel like they they're just so suppressed in their corporate world because I felt like that.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_00: I know that people are like, are out there feeling that way because I felt that way.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I just think that's messed up because now that I'm so far removed from my corporate experience, I can look back and have so much compassion for the younger version of myself who was in corporate, who would go home crying all the time because she always felt like she was unproductive, she was never good enough, she would never be able to get promoted because she just wasn't doing things in the way that her boss wanted her to, not because she didn't care, but she just wasn't somehow motivated to do it, that this whole environment just was not conducive to the way that she authentically was.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I just think that is so unfair to her.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like I'm out here fighting the good fight for the younger version of myself.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe that version is you.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_00: Not that you're necessarily younger than me, maybe you're older than me, but whatever age you are, if you're not living the life that you want and you feel suppressed in the life that you are living, I just need you to know that it can be better, it can be different.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_00: And if you are neurodivergent, it can be so good.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_00: Life can be so good for neurodivergence if you have your own business.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: A location-independent business, a business that lets you wake up when you want, work where you want, be in an environment that feels good for you, be able to move your body during the hours when you're most energized.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_00: So I did promise you at the beginning of this episode that I would give you some practical tips and tips and tricks.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_00: I think there were a lot in here.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_00: I think knowing the INCUP acronym, again, interest novelty, challenge, urgency, passion, I think that um is a really good thing, like a really good takeaway from this episode.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_00: But a couple of hot tips for people who are maybe you're already a digital nomad.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, we're gonna go through these really fast because now we're running out of time.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_00: But working with your energy pattern and not the clock.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_00: Key, key, key, key.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_00: For me, my energy pattern is that I'm slow AF in the morning.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like a I'm like an oven that takes a really long time to preheat.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's like from when I wake up until about noon, I cannot do creative work.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_00: I cannot do logical work.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_00: The only things I can really do in the morning if I want to be productive is I can get on a call.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_00: I can socialize.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's fine.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I can I can coach, I can be a coach.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's like so easy for me to be a coach because I'm I'm essentially just talking about things that I know really, really, really well.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm socializing with my clients or with my colleagues.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_00: So I can do that.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_00: I also can go to the gym, I can work out in the morning.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_00: My body is available to work hard, but not my brain.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, when I was working the nine to five, that was not good because I was expected to use my brain at 9 a.m.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I just, I just, I've always been this way.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_00: I just couldn't.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_00: Now, today, I don't make myself wrong for that.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_00: Just like I was advising my client, as I shared with you at the beginning of this episode.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, for me, I I literally never open my laptop before noon.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_00: Why would I?
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_00: I would just end up sitting behind the the laptop, twiddling my thumbs, spacing out.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: Why am I gonna waste my time spacing out when I know that if I have slept and exercised and socialized and eaten, if I open my laptop at noon, I can bust out four hours of work that is like really, really good creative work.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_00: And four hours of that is so much better to me than eight hours of sporadic little bits of inspiration.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_00: And speaking of that, this is also killing the 9 a.m.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_00: myth.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people, I know I know there's a lot of people online that are talking about the 5 a.m.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_00: club and like you gotta be up at five getting shit done.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_00: No, you don't.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_00: No, you don't.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_00: Not every entrepreneur has ADHD.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_00: There are a lot of people that can just wake up and do shit, but there are a lot of people that do have ADHD.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_00: And those people, like, why does the hour on the clock need to be associated with work?
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that doesn't make any sense.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_00: So you just choose the hours that work for you.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_00: If you want to work up until midnight, you go, you do that.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_00: I by the way, I also often take calls late at night because again, it's it's it doesn't require like a lot of mental energy for me to be on a coaching call.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_00: So, and when I live in Bali, my midnight is their noontime.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_00: So I'll work at midnight because I can, and it's not so taxing for me, and it helps other people.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_00: So why wouldn't I do that?
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, sometimes my boyfriends don't like that if I am dating someone and I have to be working at noon at midnight.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but you know what?
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's what you get for dating an ADHD girl.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's just how it goes.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, this is a huge one.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_00: Time blocking.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_00: So for me, like the way that I really focus best is I I can't do these like little spurts of work.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_00: I once I get in, for me, it's like a think about an airplane, right?
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of energy required to get the plane off the ground.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_00: But then it's like once it's in the air, it's just cruising.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_00: So, and it then also requires energy to descend and land.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_00: And then once I'm landed, I'm landed, and then I need to use the energy again to lift the plane off again.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_00: So for me, doing like a little bit of work in the morning and a little bit of work at night, that for me personally, that just doesn't work.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_00: What works for me is if I do everything that I need to do to get my fuel for the day, then I launch the plane, and then I'm just sat there in an environment that I feel comfortable sitting in for like four hours straight.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't want anybody to bother me during those four hours because I know if somebody distracts me, I'm gonna land the plane and then I'm gonna, and then it's gonna be so hard for me to get back into my work mode.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_00: So I tend to prefer working away in environments where I don't know anybody.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I do like a lot of stimulation.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_00: This is another ADHD thing.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_00: You guys will probably always see me working by the beach.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's not just because I'm a cliche digital nomad.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, working by the beach like is really conducive for my ADHD because there's just enough going on that if my brain starts to get distracted from the task, I can just look up and I see people moving around, I see a surfer, I see waves, I hear the sound of the waves, I feel the wind on my face, I smell the salt air.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I order a coffee and then I'm right back in.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like my exit when I'm a little bit distracted is minimal and stimulating enough that it's easy for me to get right back in.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_00: I don't actually have to land the plane.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then the same thing goes for, yeah, if you're choosing an environment, like being in an environment that feels inspiring to you can really, really, really help you with the novelty part of your ADHD.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_00: Even if you've fallen out of love with your business, if you can work on your business from Mexico or Vienna or the Dolmites, you get that novelty more satisfied.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_00: And therefore, it's more motivating for you to work.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_00: So that's why I think again, digital nomad and ADHD like really go hand in hand because ADHDers are novelty seekers and you can just get so much novelty naturally when you can work from anywhere.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_00: So time blocking, um, finding places to work that you can just like keep the plane up, you know, take your tiny little breaks, but not a big one, not one that's so distracting that's gonna take you out of your mode that you find inspiring.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_00: Apparently, Something about sitting cross-legged too with ADHD people.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, for me, I hate sitting in a normal chair.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_00: I hate sitting in a normal normal office desk.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_00: I want to sit on a couch, I want to be able to lay down, I want to be able to sit in weird positions, I don't want my feet on the ground.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and that is just something that would never work for me if I was in corporate.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_00: So for me, I always look for cafes that I can work from that have couch seating versus um chairs.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_00: That is just a me thing.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it would be interesting for you to explore like what is the actual environment that you find you can get the most work done.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, another thing when you have your own business is that you can delegate the stuff that you don't want to do.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_00: So um, for a lot of business owners, if you are someone who you're like really, really driven by challenge and novelty, you might in the first, let's say, year of your business, you're constantly learning new things.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_00: But then you get to a point where your work starts feeling a little bit redundant.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_00: If if you've gotten really good at those things that you now just need to do over and over and over again, you can train someone else to do those things.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_00: And now you can move on to learning a new thing to grow your business.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_00: So no matter what your business is, even if the subject matter you're no longer super passionate about, like I think I don't know, the passion doesn't seem to be the most important thing for everyone.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's really important for me.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_00: But a lot of people, like, they can start a business on, I don't know, I'm thinking about one of my friends.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_00: She's got a business selling um a pet clean, like if your pet peeve on the ground, the the the product will clean the pee out of the rug.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_00: So not a product that she's passionate about, but she's a digital nomad, so she can be wherever she wants.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_00: And she also can always grow and scale that business.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_00: So the first year, she's like learning how to sell this product.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_00: And then when she learns how to sell it, now she's like, oh, maybe I can add on a new product or a new revenue stream or I can add on a new distribution platform.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_00: So she can hire someone to do the thing that she's already mastered.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_00: And now she gets to go back into her challenge and her novelty seeking experience by learning new things.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_00: That what I just shared is something that is not always possible when you are working in corporate.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like you get to learn new things and you get to grow into new things when you're promoted, but then you're promoted when they say that you should be promoted, not when you feel motivated to learn new things.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so yeah, just want to draw that comparison.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, other few things here.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, we've got externalize your memory.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_00: Something that I live, breathe, and die by is my Google Calendar.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, the second that I'm out and somebody's like, what are you doing on Wednesday?
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_00: I got my phone open, I got my Google Calendar open.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I don't know.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I put in a TVD placeholder to hang out with that person on Wednesday because I don't want to ever have to remember.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I I've I almost like removed my ability to remember when things are happening because I rely so wholeheartedly on my calendar, which ends up being a really, really good system for me.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_00: And um, because I know everything that everything that I'm doing is put on the calendar, that is what helps me find my four-hour chunks of time blocking for my work.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_00: Hope that makes sense.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, actually, if you join the DNLA, one of the first modules you'll see is how I map out my calendar.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_00: I think I actually might even make a whole podcast episode about that.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and the final thing that I want to share, oh, two things.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_00: Redefining your bad day.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_00: So when you have ADHD, something that you probably struggle with is consistency.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_00: And you just need to know and accept that that's how you are.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_00: And that's okay.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_00: If you have a day where you wake up and you just don't have it in you, honestly, you're so much better off going and just enjoying yourself versus forcing yourself to sit down if you can promise yourself that the next day you're gonna come back to this.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, like you can have a bad day once in a while because what you probably do is hyperfocus when you are available to hyperfocus.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_00: So just because you had a bad day, that's okay.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_00: You might have an excellent day tomorrow.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_00: Doesn't always work that way in corporate because in corporate, you go in for the same amount of time every single day in the same place every single day.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_00: You can't mix it up, you can't get novelty in there, you can't really make up for a lost time in the way that you can when you have your own business.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_00: And the final thing is finding your people.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_00: I am such a big advocate for community.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_00: Let me just point out that you're listening to this episode here still today, probably because you're resonating with what I'm saying and you're feeling seen.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_00: You're feeling like, oh, wow, there's someone else who gets it, there's someone else who understands that my struggle is real, and someone else who's validating this and is even supporting me and giving me tips to overcome it.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's what happens when you hang out with other people who are one where you want to be, living the life that you want to be living and understand you.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_00: If you are one of the 5% or less people on the planet that struggle with ADHD, it's not gonna be very helpful for you to be hanging out with other people who are neurotypical.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, to be only hanging out with people that are that are neurotypical.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_00: Find other people that have ADHD too, that also have their own businesses, that are also digital nomads and see how they're living and whatever I just shared that might have resonated with you or inspired you or helped you.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_00: There's so much more where that came from.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_00: And you want to know where you can find people like that, people that are thriving with their ADHD and making it making their life and their business work for them.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's inside the Digital Nomad Life Academy.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't know what the Digital Nomad Life Academy is, that is a one-year program that I personally run alongside two other very successful digital nomad entrepreneur coaches.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_00: We are all available for you four times per week.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_00: We maximize across so many different time zones, whether you're in North America, Europe, or Australia.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_00: There are multiple calls that you can come to every single month where you can be coached live through all of the challenges that you might be having from coming up with the business idea, launching that business, marketing that business, getting clients, creating an amazing customer experience for your clients and scaling your business while being completely remote, while having ADHD, while living the life of your dreams.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't want you to just make money.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want you to just have a career that you like.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_00: I want you to be obsessed with your life.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_00: And if you're someone with ADHD, you have a lot of passion in you.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_00: It might just be dormant because you've been living in an environment that's been keeping you in a freaking box.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_00: I am here to help you unlock that box and reach your full potential, allow you to live a life of passion with a career that you are obsessed with.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_00: That is what the DNLA can support you with.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_00: So, as I mentioned earlier, when I was speaking about my career assessment process, you don't even need to have a business idea in order for this program to work with you.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's okay if you have a nine to five job.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_00: Again, because our calendar accommodates that.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_00: You don't need to be in a situation where you need to launch your business right now.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like you get the program for a whole year because sometimes it takes a year because you have a normal life, right?
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like you have stuff going on.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_00: So joining the program, it doesn't mean that you're gonna immediately change everything in your life.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_00: It means that you're just gonna take the first step on your long journey to moving closer to a life of your dreams.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_00: That is the Digital Nomad Life Academy.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_00: If you are interested in it, what I recommend doing is actually speaking to one of our alumni.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, one of our alumni, she is hosting a call called the Remote Readiness Rating Call.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_00: And that is an opportunity for you to share with her all about your career history, your skills, interests, whatever.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_00: And she will give you a rating of zero to 100% on how, quote, ready you are to launch your own remote business.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_00: And if you get above a 50%, we will share with you about the Digital Med Life Academy.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_00: And if you get above a 75%, we will strongly encourage you to join the DNL because what are you waiting for?
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_00: If you are so ready for this life, you belong here because I know that I can help you.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_00: I know that together we will be such a power team in you creating the life of your dreams.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_00: So if you want to book a remote readiness rating call, just send me a DM on Instagram, R-R-R, and I will send you the link and the preparation guide to you so that you can make the most out of this experience.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and again, that is how you can learn more about the Digital Nomad Life Academy.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, my ADHD friends, I hope that you didn't get too distracted during this episode.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_00: I hope that you're still here.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um I hope that you liked it, and I hope that I hear from you on Instagram.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_00: Again, if you have any questions at all, if you want to talk to me about the episode or just whatever, shoot the shit.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_00: Send me a DM on Instagram at Christabella Travels, and I hope to see you there.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks so much for listening to the Digital No Might Life podcast, and we'll see you in the next episode.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_00: Bye.