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Washington Capitals 2026-2027 Season Preview: Offensive Revolution · Jablam Sports Hockey

• 0:01
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 0:02
  SPEAKER_01: Kudrov wants to get traded too.
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_01: What the hell is going on here?
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Jablam Sports Hockey, your home for everything happening around the NHL.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Peter Wojarinov, and every episode we break down the biggest topics all hockey fans are talking about from writers, TV, and radio experts from all 32 teams.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_01: Today we are continuing with our two 32 season previews with the Washington Capitals.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_01: Today on the show, I've got Ted Starkey.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_01: How's it going, Ted?
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's going good.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_00: How about you?
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, we're hanging in there.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, enjoy love talking hockey.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and Ted covers the caps, of course, trending out.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe we'll talk about some Kucharov.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_01: Let's drop the pack.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_01: Caps last season, of course, missed the playoffs a year after finishing first in the Eastern Conference.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_01: Last year, uh what do you think needs to happen again for this team to get back into the playoffs after missing it last year, Ted?
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think uh in the offseason, you know, last year the the Pierre-Luc Dubois injury really hurt, uh, and then missing Ryan Leonard for a couple games.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_00: I think the caps are really kind of uh short on offense, and obviously they addressed that in the offseason, getting, you know, Alex Tuck from Buffalo, Jordan Kairou from St.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_00: Louis, and even Boone Jenner from the Blue Jackets.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, they're a little bit more potent.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's I think they they they try to roll four lines now, more as trying to have just the two top line scoring, which was the problem last year.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um I think too, you know, just the the kind of inconsistency with the offensive production really hampered them last year.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, they they only they had a down season, but they only missed the playoffs by a couple points.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_00: And had they swung one game against Philadelphia in March around, they would have made it.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_00: So uh it's kind of you know, two years or three years ago, they you know, just made on the last day of the season.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_00: Last year they uh they had won the East, and then the year, you know, year after that, then they missed the playoffs by four points.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_00: So it's they're kind of one of these teams that if things go well, they're gonna do well.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: If they don't, they're gonna be a borderline team.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, last year Logan Thompson was first in saves made above expected, and back to back in top three in the league.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_01: Why isn't he considered a top three goal goalie in the NHL uh amongst fans and media?
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I think you know the last obviously, you know, two years ago they beat Montreal in the first round and then lost to Carolina in the second round.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: I I think they want to see a little bit more consistent run in Washington, uh playoff-wise.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: You know, obviously uh I think he would have his profile would have been a lot higher had they actually made it.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh, especially because I mean, like you were saying, a lot of his saves are kind of the biggest deficiency the Capitals have this year is probably just the the defense.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think uh you know defensively they're you know you have guys like Cole Hudson and uh you know uh Jacob Chikrin who are really good offensive players, but uh uh you know they're a little bit, shall we say, lacking in shutdown guys and erases a lot of the mistakes.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: You don't like uh Sandine and Lilligren?
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_00: Well, Sandine's uh they're they're waiting for Sandine to get back, and Lilligren, yeah, uh he's he's he's had a tough start.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_00: He's a little tough.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_01: He's a little tough.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_01: I get it, I get it.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, you know, really only uh, you know, why uh Roy is the only guy uh they have that's any kind of defensive uh you know pedigree.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I think you know, they're they're they're built, they have a lot of puck moving type guys, and they just their their their drawback defensively is they basically leave a lot of guys open and they they leave other guys time and space, which which is generally not a great thing to have when you're a goalie facing opposition.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_00: So uh, but you know, Thompson's been, you know, he's he keeps his team in playoff contention, no doubt about it.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_01: We can talk about the Capitals without talking about the great eight.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I know he's getting up there in goals.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think he can score a little bit more to hit that 950 number this season?
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: Is it possible?
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's possible.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think the biggest concern I would say for Ovi this year is uh the shots are down.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you look at last year, he was averaging three shots per game and obviously had 32 goals.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, now so far he's averaging a little over 1.5.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_00: And honestly, the shot, his shot is still the deadliest part of his game, but you know, scanning-wise, he doesn't really pass the eye test.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_00: Teams don't even really shade him anymore because you know they know they really he really has a tough time you know maneuvering like he used to.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_00: So even the assist a little limited.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_00: So you really have to get him the puck because you know he still has the knuckle puck, but you know, I think he's always been, I will say he's always been a he scores in bunches.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, he he's it's one of those things, once he gets a couple, he will bury a couple, you know, but uh you know, obviously he's gonna have to get a couple soon to get to that 950 mark.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_00: Uh otherwise it's gonna be really difficult to do.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_01: They have lowered his uh power play ice time too recently, right?
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: Correct, yeah.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: He used to play almost regularly two minutes, you know, every all the whole two minutes, and now he's doing maybe a minute.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_00: His ice time is also uh generally going down, but that's you know a byproduct of yeah, uh, I think you know, basically, you know, they have four four rolling lines now.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_00: They want to roll lines.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_00: So um I think that's a byproduct of that too.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's it's just like last year he was a bigger part of the offense, whereas you know, now you have guys like Tuck and Kairu and Jenner kind of picking up the slack for some of the goal scoring.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: So they don't feel like they need to rely on him to score.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_01: Well, let's talk about those guys.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, in the summer, a Capitol General Manager Chris Patrick made some big moves.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, free agency obviously they took the best available forward, and Alex Tuck gave him that five years 10.5 contract.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_01: How has the versatile forward looked so far?
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, he's been excellent.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, obviously, uh coming into Washington, you know, I don't I don't think people knew what to expect from him, you know, especially after you know, obviously had a tough playoffs with the Sabres last year, but he's been you know, he's been a great fit.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, honestly, all the new guys with the Capitals have really produced.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, Tuck has already had five game-winning goals so far this year, uh, which is saying something when you won uh it was an eight game.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_00: So um and he's he's been he's been excellent.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_00: He's had, I think, three two goal games.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he goes to the net, he has a tremendous shot, tremendous release, and he's kind of been the type of forward that Washington was lacking last year, and obviously, you know, so far so good.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how long he'll keep this pace up, but you know, initially the trade looks great.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_01: And of course, you mentioned Cairo.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_01: Patrick picked uh him up in June from St.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_01: Louis for Connor McMichael, a first in Milton Gastron.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_01: What what niche and what skill specific can Kairou utilize to help this team?
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: I think you know, he he's definitely been a little bit more inconsistent than Tuck has, but you know, as of late, he's done better.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, there are some games it was he was kind of invisible, other games he's been really noticeable.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's really good with the puck.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_00: He really got himself going um with some really nice passes for assists, uh, you know, kind of a good setup guy.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_00: And then he's been shooting the puck more as of late and really been a lot more effective.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_00: I think you know, the caps were kind of hoping a change of scenery would help him.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_00: You know, obviously, St.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_00: Louis, you know, he did the same thing.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_00: He flashed his talent, but he wasn't necessarily there every game.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I think as the season has progressed, he's become more and more part of the uh the attack, and I think he's kind of showing why they made the trade for him.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_01: And Cap fans were waiting for it.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: It you mentioned him.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: The arrival of Cole Hudson has happened now.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_01: How has the other Hudson looked early in his career?
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_01: And what do you think his ceiling is?
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_00: I think you know, I I saw both Hudson's play in college, and I thought Cole, his uh sophomore year, was probably further advanced in Lane, which is obviously saying something because Lane's been terrific in Montreal.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, Cole, I think the trick is going to be pairing him with a defenseman who's responsible because Cole certainly can move the puck.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_00: He's great at rushing the puck.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he's great at shooting.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_00: The biggest thing is, you know, he's kind of a high risk, high reward defenseman.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he's gonna put you know, he's gonna pinch, he's gonna leave your other defenseman needing to, you know, play back in case the you know play goes the other way.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I think there's been a little bit of adjustment period for that, but you know, I think what Marty St.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_00: Louis did in Montreal is he basically said, you know, Lane, we're gonna let you do what you do best.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: And obviously he's been terrific.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I think at some point Spencer Carberry's gonna be the same way.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: You know, Cole's strength is not gonna be his defensive play, it's gonna be essentially being a fourth forward.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I think you kind of have to buy into that for him to be effective because he isn't necessarily the best defensive type defenseman, but he's got a lot of talent, and you know, I think he can be as good as his brother um if given the right opportunity and paired with the right uh partner.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think I'm not I'm not specifically knowledge with the capitals, but would Matt Roy and him work well?
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_01: Like, are they the same same stick size side?
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, I mean I Roy has been good.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the pickup of St.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_00: Ivany has been really good.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, the first two games, you know, they got him from Winnipeg on waivers, and he's been, you know, the two seem to mesh really well.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, he picked up a couple assists and on Hudson goals.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: So um uh basically uh you know, I I think it pairing him with the right defensive, like you just have to have someone to basically to allow him to do what he does best.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, he just doesn't have the size.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's just my thinking that him and Matt Roy would fit well.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_01: Have they played a lot together yet?
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_01: Or what's going on there?
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_00: They have, but what Roy got hurt early in the year, so uh he wasn't able to.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: And they paired him, you know, they paired him with Ch Chickren and Lilgren, which uh the latter was not the best experiment, as you can probably imagine.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, I mean, I I I think you know, as long as he's anchored down, he could be really good because you don't really I I you know if you're not if you're pairing with another offensive type defenseman, then you really have to uh you have to make sure that you know you're covered defensively because you know when when he's not paired with someone who's good response defensively, you give up a lot of stuff going the other way.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: And I think you know Hudson will get he's just gonna develop more confidence, I think, um, and basically, you know uh be able to do that.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but you know, I as I said I think he's a very, very high ceiling.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: I think he can be just as good as his brother if given the right opportunity.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_00: Because I said, I think Montreal uses Lane very well and very effectively.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_00: And if he's used well, uh, you know, I think he's gonna be just as good.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: That's great news.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: Time for some trending now.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_01: Well, of course, everybody knows last week Nikita Kutrov asked for a trade.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I do remember uh him stating that a lack of communication between him and his general manager was more of the focus, and they had only met twice within the last four or five months.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_01: How do you drop the ball if you're JBB for the GM of the Tampa Bay Lightning and not to communicate well with the best player at least in the NHL last season, Hart Trophy winner Nikita Kutrov?
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's it's it's a really weird situation because you you'd think, especially, you know, with it's obviously a new era with the contract dollars, you know, and with the new uh the new CBA and you know, obviously with the cap going up, even you know, average players are gonna be making uh you know 10 plus in a couple years just because you know the money's to be spent around.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: So you know, to see the figures that Kucharov was offered, it's a little surprising.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like you were saying, he's you know, Carlson's obviously making 18 mil.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_01: You'd think you know they would offer more than 12, right?
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, no offense to Leo Carlson, but yeah, you know, Nikita Kucharov is pretty pretty damn good.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: So I think you know, there's some ways, obviously.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_00: Washington saw this last year with John Carlson.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think there's a point where the team has kind of made a decision to move on, but they also don't want to say, hey, we're not gonna pay, you know, we want you gone.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: So it's kind of like if you lowball a player, you may get him for a lesser price.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: But on the other hand, you know, if you decide to make a change and say, Well, we can use this cap space or somebody else, so be it.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, it's a weird situation.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_00: I was it's interesting.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: I was I was writing something about the uh you know, the contract demands now and the trade demand sort of kind of becoming prevalent between him, you know, Dylan Larkin, you know, obviously Connor Hellebuck just got solved, but it's interesting how it's become kind of a tactic by agents and players now to demand your way out.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: And it's you know, it's it's it's not the most effective because obviously GMs hate paying pennies on the dollar for players, or you know, I should getting pennies back.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: And so it'll be interesting to see how that unfolds.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: Because I mean, obviously Kucharov's UFA this season, so at some point, you know, they can get something back for him.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: Will it be what they want?
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_00: No, but they'll also get cap space in the future.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I don't know about you, but I feel this this has always been going on, it's just not as prevalent in today's world with social media and the experts like in Elliott Friedman out there getting them out there quickly.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_01: But maybe maybe the difference is hey, it's Halibuck or it's Kutrov.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_01: So these are game chainer changer type guys, too, right?
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: So right.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, like I'll even give you an example this year with uh you know Niroshenko with Washington, yep, he uh everyone found out he had his trade demand through uh Elliot Friedman.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: You know, so you know it's kind of interesting how you know this has become a tactic by agents and you know to try to say, oh, we want to we want to move our player, and you know, like I said, it's different with Larkin because obviously Larkin's got a long contract left still, whereas you know, Kucha off his one year and you know Miroshenko just wants ice time because he's still on his uh you know early is on his entry-level deal.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: So it's interesting though, you know, just the the business, the way it's changed, and like you were saying with social media, you know, it's there's a lot more public.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think a lot more goes on in public now than it used to, just because it's available too.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: Totally.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: And that reminds me, I gotta I gotta message Elliot and ask him for Dan Milstein's uh contact info and some of those other guys.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: I want to get I want to hire Kutrov to talk to my dad in Russian.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: All right, let's go.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it was funny because I remember I remember when the Leafs uh Leafs drafted Nikolai Kuliman, and nobody knew who Kuliman was at the time.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: And somebody told me when I was working at Best Buy, hey, Kuuleman's gonna be a Canadian tire, like it's like a Home Depot type place.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, all right, so we go there, nobody's there.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: There's like a couple of kids, and my dad ends up talking to Kuuleman in Russian for like an hour and a half, and Kuuleman's laughing his ass off, and I felt great because I'm like, you know, at the time I was a bit younger too, and I was just like, oh, this is kind of cool, you know.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: My dad's just making Kuulman laugh, and he's obviously, you know, just new to Canada too, so it's kind of funny.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I I took Russian in uh college and I Oh my god, you did you passed?
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_00: I did.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_00: I I I you know I barely I barely remember any of it.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: It was it was just it's so language, it's so complex.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's so hard to do.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: The Crylic alphabet.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it is.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think I think the only thing I could say is Washington is a nice city, you know, Bolshoi Goroda.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's about all I retain from that.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: So that's you know, one semester's worth of Russian down into one phrase.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness, dude.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_01: I took uh I took in university too, uh uh Russian and I failed it, dude.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: I felt so bad.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: I only took it for my dad, and I was like, ah, I'll take it as an elective.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_01: And I bombed that one, man.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's too hard.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: I can speak Slavic, and my parents are first off uh Serbian, but my grandfather's Russian.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: So when I so Serbian comes fluid to me, I probably can't read it that well, but speaking it at home and with uh cousins family is very easy for me.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and of course, my nickname, some people call me Russian.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_01: Again, that's just because my last name is Russian for my grandfather.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: And lastly, let's touch on the hometown remix jerseys.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_01: They're trash.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: Which ones do you like?
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I mean, it's interesting.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: I was talking about this, like, you know, the reverse retro one, I think was okay.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but you know, no one knew at the time they were basically one-off jerseys.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: I think everyone thought, oh, hey, you know, they'll be wearing these for a couple years.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: Nope, you know, 10 or 11 games, that's about it.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: Reverse remix two, I think maybe you had a half dozen decent ones.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: This one, I mean, you know, Anaheim is okay.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, it's it's the the problem with these, and you know, I've heard from various sources that the further you go, these are further models that fell off the drawing board that they brought back for these.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, they're they're just you know, I I heard a rumor that one of a one of the designs from Reverse Remix 2 even dated back to the Atlanta Thrashers, which they uh they repurposed for another team.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: I won't say who, but wow, it was it was interesting.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, I just I mean I would like to see the NHL kind of adopt these for more than 11 games because I think you know, I think I mean, believe me, I'm a jersey person.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: I love jerseys.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: I I'm a huge collector.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I just, you know, the more that you get these one-off jerseys, I'm like, you know, it's not like a winter classic or stadium series where hey, it's only two or three teams a year, you know?
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: Now you're getting, you know, every team is getting these jerseys.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: You know, uh for the capitals, I think they've had six jerseys, new jerseys in five years.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and at some point you're just like, okay, uh, you know, I get it, but you know, at the same time, it's just uh, you know, I I I think there's maybe a couple that are like, I mean, the Capitals will passable, it's fine.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: Some people like it.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: I like it.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I've yeah, I mean, it's fine.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's it's just one of those things.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's I don't think it's terrible.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: I just don't think it's that great.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they're they're they're C level jerseys, you know, they're they're not they're not they're not awful, but yeah, most of them are not awful, I should say, but they're not great.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, like I said, Anaheim is the only one I really mean is okay.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I wrote an article on Substack about uh just the uniqueness out of all of them, and you can see they tried to put in a bit of hometown flavor in each of them.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but A, I'm not a fan of uh uh fanatics, and they're probably the ones there and they're designers that they paid maybe one day to make them.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: Uh let's uh let's finish off with the last few letters of the outfit teams and just make them all black.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and you know, so I I they could have done more with them, I feel, and they could have done a little bit better, but uh in general, it's nice to have new jerseys.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, like you're saying, uh maybe have them play more than one season with them, like at least they do kind of with the NBA kind of ones that they have for their city jerseys and even uh baseball, and that's kind of what they're trying to do, but they only do them for one year, which it is weird.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: And you see, some teams, I mean it's single-digit games, and like you were saying, like, you know, at least you know, the City Connect for baseball is a couple seasons.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think that's I believe it's three seasons, so I think they should at least require to do that because I mean, you know, that was the thing.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like you reverse retro, you're like, oh, cool, these things are gonna be around for a while.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: Nope.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, you know, it happened during COVID, and so hardly anyone saw those jerseys live, yeah.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: Which is a shame because I thought I thought reverse retro one was really solid.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: I thought that was a good attempt to bring back, and now you're just getting to the point where hey, we're just kind of re rehashing some old designs.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'd like to see you know, like actual third jerseys, not just you know, we're we're just warming up these old designs.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we gotta make up some money.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we're not filling out all the seats.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, it's all that that cap goes up for a reason, and that's part of it.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I you know, someone was telling me, Oh, it's like the NBA.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, yeah, well, you don't always want to follow the NBA and everything.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, like we were saying, you know, the NBA, you know, they usually keep some of those around.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's just, you know, it's it's kind of uh, you know, it always comes out before the holidays for some reason.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and you know, it's I I get why they do it, but at the same time, I'd like to see a little bit more creativity with it.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_00: I think they've kind of gotten to this well of we're just gonna do, you know, do variations of old vintage logos and then go for it.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, at least I like that they're trying to connect with the cities and even some of the branding that has been on there now that the ducks have Disneyland on their helmets, it makes sense.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: I like it.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: The Maple Leafs have milk, milk on their white jerseys, which is great, and then their secondary company is Oreo.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: So, hey, that's good.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, it's it's uh yeah, milk and cookie team.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: You can't beat that.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's great.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: All right, uh Ted, thanks for joining the show.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, anytime I'm a happy and beyond and uh subscribe to the show.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: That's definitely gonna be a little single season with the caps.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it sure will.
• 23:02
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• 23:09
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