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90 pound bows are pointless? FOC is fake news? ft Paige Pearce and Tate Morgan · The Bow Disciples Podcast

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  All righty, we are here. Fresh podcast, new podcast.
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  We've been here before, but it's been a year almost to the day, I
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  think, and it was a fun day. I've shot a lot of arrows out of
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  a heavy bow today with two guests.
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  Would you like to introduce our guests here today?
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  Well, we have Tate, Morgan and the page Pierce with us today.
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  Good guests. How's it feel to be back on the
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  show, folks? Feels good, feels good.
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  Got a lot of interesting content from you 2 clowns today.
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  A lot. A lot.
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  It was exciting. What was the most surprising
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  arrow fired? Today you're 7.
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  That one. Well, I doubt, yeah.
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  I might have nightmares about that just.
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  I'm dying just. Shocked in the binoculars as I
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  what? Did you have to count rings?
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  How do you even? Call that I was like that's so
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  far beyond deep into the eight. It's like you just jumped out
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  into like the deep abyss you'd. Literally.
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  I mean, shanked it to left field even though it was centre.
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  But, you know, basically that's what I would call shanking it to
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  left field, that it was just, I don't know.
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  What have you shot the other day with your buddy, with your
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  hunting rig, with no lens, no clarifier, you know, do you even
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  have the bar? Did you have the bars on it at
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  that point yet? Yeah, So you had some bars at
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  least, I guess. But that's it.
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  Still didn't shoot that bad. No, that's the worst shot I've.
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  Ever you had a like full case of the yips on that one?
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  Literally the yips, yeah, I turned into Rick and Keel and
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  just forgot how to pitch and that was crazy.
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  Right, Kevin Costner on On Tin Cup.
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  By the way, can we talk about Kevin Costner got to be the
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  most. Literally the next end you had
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  to tie your left shooter double, not put all your change in your
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  left pocket 100% you had to go just just completely mess your
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  mind up. Clear the mechanism, clear it.
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  Shout out to The Natural, another Kevin Costner.
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  It was an 11, OK. Yeah, we recovered.
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  You did recover. You recovered well, But yeah,
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  that was, I mean, mind blowing. It goes to show that was really
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  funny because it's like you could put all this work in and
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  be like, make it as forgiving as possible.
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  But like you can't fix a true, you know, shake a true like, you
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  know, kerfuffle it just they can still happen.
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  You know the worst part about indoor is you do all that work,
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  all the forgiving, all the whatever.
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  And let's say that bad one was just a nine.
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  Like when we go to a tournament, you shoot 1 bad arrow like one
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  night, your whole weekend's done.
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  Yeah, like you lost, go home. That's why Indoor's not very
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  fun. Lot of pressure.
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  So that brings me to a question is how?
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  OK, I know me shooting the sevens ridiculous, but in the
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  wall up there above the targets is 2 arrows that I've heard are
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  both from Tate. So I need no no no is.
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  There more than two I think. There's three.
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  Only two of them are mine. One of them is Emily's.
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  OK, OK, so I need to know how those happen.
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  Well, the one I was trans, I was shooting multiple different
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  releases. One day playing around and I was
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  shooting a hinge, a button and a tension.
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  Well the one time I forgot I went from a hinge back to
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  attention. I didn't hold the safety in, got
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  about halfway back and let her eat.
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  That'll do it. Then the other one I don't even
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  know what happened on the other one just like my thumb slipped
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  off the safety or did something. That was all she wrote.
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  Or maybe I was shooting my button and it was set way too
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  light and it went off halfway or something like that there.
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  Seems to be a real debate in this household or barn hold or
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  yeah, shed hold Shaw hold. That's so that's that also
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  sounds very strange, but on what light you know, actually is for
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  a button 'cause I heard a lot of back and forth on that's light.
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  No, that's not that's light. No, that's not.
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  And then meanwhile, I think if any other normal, sane Archer
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  picked up either of y'all's buttons, they'd be like, there's
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  no shot in hell I'd shoot that period thing go off halfway in
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  my draw. And you guys are just like,
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  that's not light at all. Yes, it is.
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  No, it's not. So yeah, I find that one's a
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  funny one there. It's too light.
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  I'm like, I don't think you can make them any lighter before the
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  button falls off the release. He.
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  Wraps way harder than I do from the start.
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  Like I just love. Like just this little dainty
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  touch. Yeah, and he like.
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  It is dainty. I mean that that one release.
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  Slam your thumb on it and. Like, let it roll.
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  You can almost like lock it and then go like this and gravity
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  will set it off, you know what I'm saying?
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  If the barrel's heavy enough, which is nice.
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  You have to hold it in place because if you let go, it will
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  fall. You got to, you got to push it
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  forward when you draw. That's that's the trick.
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  You have to push the button forward.
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  Tipped it the button weight like not touching his thumb on it at
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  all but just tilted it wrong it would fire.
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  That's. Crazy.
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  It's insane. That one's way too light.
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  I like light. I mean, the Carter is pretty
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  light, but I think that thing's got to be that, thing is.
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  That thing is spicy. It's.
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  Spicy it is. That's.
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  What I use for months, my hunt and release.
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  That's perfect. So you just if you feel the
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  barrel touch the button, you know, there's, there's, there's
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  none of or your thumb touch the button, there's, there's none of
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  this going on. It's just.
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  Bam, yeah, you don't ever Rev up the engine and just.
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  No. Open fist at this, you know,
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  hammer that sucker home, bend the trigger.
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  You know what I mean? No.
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  No, it's just more of like a slow squeeze and if my finger,
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  if my finger feels it, it's already in the animal.
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  It's already in there, which is nice.
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  Speaking of animals, in the background, here we can see your
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  new draft mount that you you love and it looks amazing.
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  So how long did it take to get back and were you, was it what
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  you expected, better or worse? 2 years, a little over 2 years,
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  two years and three months. And it's better than I thought.
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  Like they sent pictures and I'm like severe OCD, hypercritical.
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  And I was like, oh, they did this weird really sharp neck
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  turn and like, I don't know, is he like leaning weird?
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  Like I kept looking at the photos and I'm like, take look
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  at like, and we had different angles, you know?
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  And I was like, like, it's fine. Like I'll be OK with it.
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  But I didn't think it was that good.
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  And then even when it was in the crate, like I looked at him in
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  the crate and went, oh, it's better than I thought for sure.
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  Because it stayed in the crate overnight because we couldn't
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  really get it out. So we waited for Greg Poole to
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  come down the next day and help. And so then when we got it in
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  and got it set up, I was like, whoa, they did way better than
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  what I expected. Now, did you in the process of
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  ordering this thing? Did you double check your
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  ceiling height? So with the map so because.
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  You got definitely got clearance, but like there's a
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  chance that they straight necked that thing.
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  It wasn't going to fit in the house.
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  We didn't even live here when I got that mount.
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  We lived in the other house. And it would have had room there
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  as well. Yeah, maybe.
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  No, I don't. No, Yeah, Honestly, I didn't
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  really know. I didn't really.
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  I don't know what your thought process was.
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  I will change the house to fit the giraffe.
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  So then I we got this place and I was like, the ceilings are a
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  little higher in here. And so I was like, yeah, I told
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  them. So initially like I, I, if you
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  look at a lot of my mouths, they're like very straight and
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  very square. No like sneaks or weird stuff.
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  Like again, OCDI just like to be symmetrical.
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  And so I they. Look like something in a a bar
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  from the 1940s like. I'm getting a little better, OK,
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  But I wanted it straight and then I knew if we put the curve
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  in it that it would eat up a lot of the height.
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  So I was like, all right, let's try that.
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  So I looked up some photos and found some net curve.
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  And then the biggest thing on that, if you now I'm going to
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  ruin all the draft mounts for you, if you go look and they
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  don't and they don't put the legs at the bottom, it just
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  looks like a Dick and balls really like the front chest.
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  Yeah, I'll even like pull. Up.
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  Oh I see, because it looks like 2 big old knuckles down.
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  There, yes, not very not bad, not impressive size wise, but
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  yes, I do see the shape. You know, I do see it now.
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  Yeah, it looks small. Though right on my paper.
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  Must have. Do not make it look like a Dick
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  and balls. Really.
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  Yeah. And I would say it doesn't,
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  unless you got Peroni's disease real bad and that curve is just
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  hooking. You know, They make medication
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  for it, you know? I really did not want that.
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  Like look at look at this. OK, let me take a look here.
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  You're. Going to throw it.
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  We got to I Oh my God, there's no way.
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  There's no way I'm. Not kidding.
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  There's no way that's insane. Bad look at it.
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  See what I'm saying? Yeah, like I said, I'm not
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  impressed by the size at all, but but it is.
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  That is funny. Oh dude, you.
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  Should just pause it. Just go go look up some draft
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  monster. Absolute, absolute chaos on set.
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  That was my biggest input. It's like you have to leave the
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  legs, some front leg for some shape.
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  So no, they crushed it. They did really good.
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  And then my plan, because I didn't know that it would fit,
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  was if it didn't fit, I was just going to leave it laying over,
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  decide where we wanted it. And we were just going to cut a
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  hole in the sheetrock and then just build a little pop up real
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  fast. So his.
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  Head could go in it. And then whenever we get an
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  actual house built here, then just flatten that little thing
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  back out on the ceiling. So that was my plan.
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  Worst case scenario if he didn't fit.
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  At least you had a backup, you know.
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  Always good. We we said we could just push up
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  one of the little like crawl hole spaces or this one in the
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  middle in the meantime and just stick his head up there to stand
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  him up and then cut a hole. I still.
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  Don't think his head would have fit in that hole but.
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  I didn't. I didn't even think about his
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  head is like literally this big. Yeah.
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  So I don't think it would have fit either, but we didn't think
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  that far ahead. That's wild.
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  At the San Diego Safari Park. Fun fact, you can actually take
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  you can do something where you get that feed the giraffes.
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  I've done it. Have you are?
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  You there still? Never done that in my life.
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  Aren't their tongues like? Yeah, you like do that.
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  Their tongues wrap like around the thing and your arm.
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  It's like. No, really.
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  Like long Wow. Yeah, I'm impressed by that.
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  Yeah, that's impressive. Yeah.
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  So we just went to, we went to a dinner.
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  A supper with your parents. Yeah, your mom.
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  I love her. OK.
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  She's a wild lady. Would you like to tell her
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  famous story? The family story?
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  How long? Ago did this take place?
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  Not this year, but the year before.
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  Two years ago. Yeah, because they just caught
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  back from their last hunt. Yeah, and I think she kept her
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  clothes on. OK, this time you.
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  Know 7:00 to give her age but you know within a bracket of
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  like. She was almost 60.
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  Yeah, OK. We're not talking like this
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  happened when she was a, you know, a a young and like she
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  just did this a couple years. Ago.
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  It's not surprising at all. So what happened?
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  Are you going to put her on blast?
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  Are you going to sit on? OK, So what happened?
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  I really need to do is find the photo.
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  You know how there's that AI search?
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  Yeah. Do you think if I search like
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  naked lady it will my even my photos?
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  I've never tried it but. I'm about to.
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  Definitely never tried it, that's for sure.
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  I have never searched anything like that on the Internet or my
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  phone. Not one time.
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  Never. Just so everyone knows, you
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  know. Well, I'm it didn't work.
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  That's actually really disappointing.
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  I thought that might actually happen.
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  Text her for that photo real quick while I out her on this
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  story so. I bet you you just search your
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  mom's. It's in your mom.
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  Yeah, but it doesn't download anymore like it's own.
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  But it's not your mom. Oh, that's good.
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  So they're in Arizona. They're hunting here.
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  We hunt in like thick trees, right?
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  So no ones like sitting glassing from afar.
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  And a lot of the Archer hunting stuff living around here, that
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  doesn't really happen. So her issue is she just thinks
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  if she looks like this and there's no people, there's no
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  people. OK, Well, in the desert in
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  Arizona, like everyone's just sitting on Ridge lines, like
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  glassing. And so she kind of forgets that
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  there's people that can see her. So she was trying to do
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  something with a blind, I think, like brush it in or do whatever.
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  And she had a machete and she did not want to sweat in her
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  clothes because it was hot. So she took all of her clothes
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  off on the top. So if she sweated, they would
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  stink like all like bra and all like and everything.
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  Bosom's out, you know, out and about, OK.
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  And she's out there just hacking brush with a machete, like doing
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  whatever shit that she does. And it would have been fine.
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  Like, had she done that, she would have come back and told
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  us. And then we laugh.
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  Whatever. Well, where the story really
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  gets wild is my dad is then like in town or the gas station or
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  something, not even seeing these guys every day.
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  And so, hey, how's it going? You see any deer, you see any
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  bucks, blah blah. And so we asked them and they
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  said no, but we saw a naked lady in the desert.
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  You want to see? And my dad, of course, be my dad
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  is like, yeah, let me see. Yeah, of course.
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  So I will pull it up. It's my freaking mom.
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  Stand by the quad with a machete.
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  And I'm like, are you kidding me?
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  And my dad was so mortified he didn't even say anything.
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  He was just like, oh that's cool.
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  Like awesome and panicked. So then he comes back, he calls
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  me. He's like, Oh my God.
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  He's like, why is your mom do this shit?
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  So it was like we laugh for about two days and I said, if
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  you see them again, you need to tell them that that's your wife
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  and you should ask him for the photo because I really want it.
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  And so he did like a couple days later, he ran into the guys and
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  he was like, hey, like you have that picture?
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  And they're like, yeah. And he ended up telling them
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  like, man, that's my wife. And the guys were like, I'm
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  sorry, man, I didn't even know. He's like, oh, no, it's cool.
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  It's cool. Like, it's fine.
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  If she, if she does that, she deserves it.
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  So we keep trying to explain to her.
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  And she said, she told you this tonight.
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  I looked, I didn't see anyone. And it's like my, they're like
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  they could have had spotting scopes on you a mile.
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  Away, yeah. Just like look at this over
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  here. That's an iconic story there's.
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  Picture like it's like that is just wild, Wild West.
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  Like I your mom's a oh, Gee, like, I just picture a lady out
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  there six years old, just boobs swinging.
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  Just, yeah, swinging them Establish.
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  What I eat Sure she's hard on your mom.
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  Now. She's straight up hardcore.
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  There's another story where I think she killed a deer and
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  didn't want to get blood on her clothes and so she literally
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  took her whole shirt off and hugged this bloody deer to get
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  it on the bike. And then my dad, my dad happened
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  to drive wherever she was and catch her shirtless with said
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  deer. And then she's like getting
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  redressed. Really doesn't like like I've
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  been hot in the desert, but I'm like, you know the.
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  It's edited, guys. It's child appropriate.
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  You're good, you're good. Look at that.
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  That is iconic. So fun with the Honda Foreman
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  too. I you know what?
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  So there's a couple funny parts to this.
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  One is obviously the whole scenario, but the funny part is
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  like, I can't think of a less efficient tool to cut Mesquite
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  bushes and stuff than a machete. It's a terrible choice of a
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  tool. Like a lopper would be so much
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  better. Just a nice lopper or a hedge
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  trimmer. So I find it funny like someone
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  just batting like, what are you you're going?
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  Is that a homeless person? Like what is happening out here?
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  Maybe she was trying to get it from the bottom, like she wanted
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  to get a whole Bush out. Of the thing.
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  And so she was going from the side, like sideswiping a whole
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  Bush. I don't think we ever know.
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  That's a great story. Pretty hardcore.
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  Like when they hunt like she hunts by herself, Yeah.
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  Six cells swinging machetes naked in the desert.
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  Yeah, you know, loading my own deer and stuff, that's.
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  Freaking badass, I know. Yeah, shout out to her.
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  That's awesome, but we did a lot today.
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  He gets so embarrassed. I'm so sore.
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  Never. Nothing amazes me anymore.
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  Yeah, he's so jaded to it, you know.
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  Yeah, when we first started dating, it was like, I don't
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  know if you're going to be able to take my family.
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  Like everyone thinks I'm bad. And then they meet the other
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  three and it's like I actually am a pretty mild version
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  compared to the rest of them so. He's.
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  Adjusted, I think, pretty nicely.
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  Now he just does. Smile and nod.
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  Smile and nod. That's honestly the best move.
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  It's like when it's like when not you, of course.
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  But sometimes when someone calls you and just rambles and rambles
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  and you just eventually convert, you adjust to going.
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  That's crazy. Wow.
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  A lot. Recently.
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  Nice. You know that feel.
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  That's Tate a lot. It starts off with the yeah.
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  Wow, wow, Do you even hear what I said You're.
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  Like Yep, this on it, you know, make it sound like you like you
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  got to change it up otherwise it just sounds the same every time
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  so you. Got for a little bit of like.
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  Every once in a while. Excitement in your voice every
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  now and then, every. Third word.
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  Every third word. Yeah.
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  It's enough to make it yourself seem engaged.
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  What'd you say? Get that.
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  Oh, what? Wow.
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  And then go back to the Yeah. No, I don't disagree.
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  So we got some big stuff happening Olympic Games and
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  you're a contender, a strong contender to make the team.
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  That's got to be pretty exciting one personally, but also for the
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  sport that you've been both of y'all have been in for a long,
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  long time. What is what do you think
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  that'll do for like when you make the team?
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  What do you what do you think that'll do for like you
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  personally, but also the sport as a whole?
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  Like does I have potential to be a pretty pretty good?
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  Big look, you're going to like my answer.
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  OK, that's fine. I.
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  Don't think it's going to do that much for us, honestly.
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  Like if we weren't in America, we were a different country,
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  then I think it's a really big deal.
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  But if you look at the medal count for like Olympic gold
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  medalists at the Olympics from the US, like when you win
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  Olympic gold medal in the US, you kind of don't get shit.
• 18:42
  And they like tax you for the cost of your medal.
• 18:45
  Like it's. Yeah, that's an interesting one.
• 18:48
  Yeah, that's a mess. Like they're wanting you to be
• 18:52
  there. Yeah, they want you to win a
• 18:56
  medal for their country, but you need to pay the taxes to.
• 19:00
  Have it like in in our country, you know, there's people who win
• 19:04
  a medal. It does you don't it doesn't
• 19:06
  change your life. Like, as sad as that is, now
• 19:09
  there's other countries and, and friends of mine, I even know
• 19:12
  from other countries who've won Olympic medals and they will get
• 19:15
  like a stipend, salary for life and things like that where it
• 19:19
  really is like big and impactful.
• 19:20
  And I know there's other countries where like their
• 19:23
  family might get a house or like a car, like big money, big
• 19:27
  things. That's really cool.
• 19:28
  We don't have that here. And so if we stay, yeah, we're
• 19:34
  going to pay. Our state blows me our country.
• 19:37
  Blows me away if we get to stay in the Olympics because this is
• 19:40
  basically like a trial run. There's only going to be 12
• 19:43
  countries and one male and one female from those countries, so
• 19:47
  only 24 compounders total. Kind of like break dancing,
• 19:50
  laughs. Yes.
• 19:51
  So hopefully we don't end up like break dancing.
• 19:54
  That Lady from Australia still a legend though.
• 19:56
  Dude, everyone's seen that clip. Everyone's seen.
• 19:59
  Everyone knows who that is. Yeah, she the most famous one
• 20:01
  from the whole thing. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
• 20:02
  You. Know how many break kids are?
• 20:04
  Probably hate her after that, yeah.
• 20:06
  She ruined it for all of them. You know how horrible it would
• 20:09
  be if like, there's an Archer and that happens?
• 20:11
  And you Shank A7, you know, on one of the shot don't do what
• 20:15
  the what the guy from YouTube did you know?
• 20:19
  Yeah, we don't want that. Yeah, don't be another
• 20:21
  influencer. Exactly.
• 20:22
  Line of the day, yeah. Oh good.
• 20:26
  But yeah. It's late, but if if we get to
• 20:29
  stay in, then I think over like long term time, I think it would
• 20:33
  definitely have some impact. It's going to be important.
• 20:35
  Like I think it'll be really cool, but because it's a trial
• 20:38
  event, I think there's a lot more pressure to not just shoot
• 20:42
  well, but like be a personality, like get archery in front of
• 20:45
  people because that's what we need to do to be able to keep it
• 20:48
  in. So I think that should be even
• 20:50
  more of our focus. Like whoever ends up making the
• 20:52
  team and earning those spots, like the people who go to the
• 20:55
  Olympics need to be out there promoting archery and being a
• 20:59
  good personality and like represent representative of the
• 21:01
  sport. Because obviously a lot of
• 21:03
  people aren't watching archery, let's be honest.
• 21:05
  And so if we want the. Chance to say what if like you
• 21:09
  know how they did for ice dancing this year they did a
• 21:15
  Netflix like reality series that would be kind of ice dancing
• 21:19
  like what if, which I think they should like if they're bringing
• 21:22
  a new sport into not they as in like the Olympic council or
• 21:26
  whoever runs the Olympics, I don't know.
• 21:29
  But like archery as a whole, whoever it is, whether it's like
• 21:33
  the USA organization or foundation, or if they don't
• 21:37
  feel like doing it, then ASA should jump in.
• 21:39
  Even if it's not, that's not the sport.
• 21:41
  You know, they're actually in the Olympics.
• 21:42
  Somebody needs to jump in and speak to something like Netflix
• 21:46
  and say, how can we get this, you know, funded or what?
• 21:48
  What does it cost us to do that? Or would you be interested?
• 21:51
  Because there's your chance to start breaking into mainstream
• 21:56
  show into a lot more than just because who's going to watch
• 21:58
  archery on the Olympics? The fucking Archers when they
• 22:01
  air. But if it airs on Netflix, Yeah,
• 22:03
  exactly. Not the prime time, but when it
• 22:06
  airs on Netflix and the Olympics comes around.
• 22:08
  So what's getting shown at the top of Netflix right now?
• 22:11
  Everything about the fucking Olympics or or shows or that are
• 22:15
  fictional about the Olympics or things that are in the Olympics.
• 22:18
  That's the stuff that's going to start getting the sport more
• 22:21
  recognized. Good idea.
• 22:23
  And yet, but who? Who, like someone in archery,
• 22:28
  has to think of it. And do you know?
• 22:30
  You know what, it's kind of lame about archery, if you want to be
• 22:34
  honest. And I'm going to give you credit
• 22:36
  for this. Right now, a lot of The Archers
• 22:39
  are just boring and dull. But in our defense, that's what
• 22:43
  they wanted us to be like. They conditioned us to be like,
• 22:46
  don't show personality and like don't show emotion and like, you
• 22:49
  don't celebrate when you win and you don't, do you?
• 22:51
  Don't be sad when you lose like we were kind of when I was
• 22:55
  coming out, like built to be these little like robot looking
• 22:59
  people in a way emotionless. Still looks like.
• 23:02
  Yes, and so it is and so everyone in archery is like
• 23:08
  judging to where if I'd like, if I go win the next tournament and
• 23:12
  I won and was like like all excited people be like what is
• 23:16
  she doing? Like I'd be a man, someone would
• 23:19
  be talking shit. So you're interesting for
• 23:22
  archery because you are not what they've conditioned us to be.
• 23:27
  And I do think that's pretty cool because it's a brush, a
• 23:29
  breath of fresh air. And I remember when you kind of
• 23:32
  first came on the scene and I was like watching you and not
• 23:35
  like on YouTube, but I mean, like in our knowledge of who you
• 23:38
  guys were. And we're like, damn, they're a
• 23:40
  lot. You guys are.
• 23:42
  But here's the thing, you're not.
• 23:44
  Because that's who we all actually are.
• 23:46
  The first video I ever. Just show it.
• 23:49
  The first video I ever saw him was his music video, obviously.
• 23:53
  Oh yes, the iconic. Even though I will say that
• 23:57
  seven you launched down there tonight, your archery career is
• 24:01
  definitely better than your singing career.
• 24:03
  Yeah, for sure, for sure. My first video of him was him
• 24:07
  eating tacos and puking. One of my favorites ever.
• 24:10
  I want to redo that. But you know, it's actually
• 24:12
  interesting you say that and I appreciate the kind of words,
• 24:15
  but Greg asked me like, you know, what made you want to do
• 24:20
  the like the indoor stuff and and document like the whole
• 24:23
  thing? And for me, it was a couple
• 24:25
  things. One, I love competing and I know
• 24:28
  I'm a good shooter, like I especially at outdoor, but
• 24:31
  indoor, I knew I could get good if I spend enough time with it.
• 24:34
  I have skill as a shooter. But then the main reason was
• 24:38
  that I wanted to make it seem more accessible and approachable
• 24:46
  to do stuff that scares a lot of people who are like, you know,
• 24:50
  scared of being made fun of or judged or whatever.
• 24:53
  And Greg was saying how we really need people who just
• 24:57
  shoot recreationally to want to shoot indoor for fun.
• 25:01
  And for me, it's a win win because the content does really
• 25:05
  well. People love watching the
• 25:07
  competitions and me seeing what I can do, you know, because the,
• 25:13
  I guess the perception of YouTube influencers usually is
• 25:17
  that they can't shoot at all, can't hunt at all.
• 25:19
  And I can hunt and I can shoot. So for me it was like, if I do
• 25:23
  poorly, it doesn't matter. No one expects me to do good
• 25:25
  anyways. If I do good, then it's great
• 25:28
  because that's what I expect to do.
• 25:31
  But then it's just a bonus. But the contents good either
• 25:34
  way. And hopefully it gets more
• 25:37
  people wanting to shoot their bow in more capacity than what
• 25:41
  they're already doing. And already since I've started
• 25:46
  filming that indoor stuff and putting it out, we have gotten
• 25:49
  so many comments of people saying, like, I want to go out
• 25:53
  and get a target bow and try this stuff.
• 25:55
  Like try something they've never done.
• 25:56
  They've only ever shot a hunting bow like a lot of people.
• 26:00
  And I think just breaking down the barrier and saying, hey, you
• 26:03
  can go, you can have fun. And the reality is, to your
• 26:06
  point, I like everybody and I'm a people person, you know, and
• 26:10
  but you go look and a lot of the people that are talking so much
• 26:15
  smack up to me about doing the stuff are the nitty gritty
• 26:19
  target people who don't know me. And in reality, like a lot of
• 26:23
  them, I would smoke, you know what I'm saying?
• 26:25
  So it's like, I don't take it personally.
• 26:28
  But to your point, I think that that stonewalling that is sort
• 26:31
  of done by like the purists or what have you is all that's
• 26:35
  doing, in my opinion, is holding the sport back.
• 26:38
  So for me, if I have to be the first, first, you know,
• 26:41
  influencer to go out and actually show up and put up
• 26:45
  results and. Go to Vegas and do.
• 26:47
  The let it happen, you know, so you know this year we're doing
• 26:51
  reading the Triple Crown series in Arizona and and then of
• 26:55
  course Vegas and hopefully next year a lot more.
• 26:59
  But I think you should be able to go shoot attack or go shoot
• 27:02
  in the backyard or go do a local 3D or go do reading in Vegas and
• 27:06
  just like have have fun and do all of them.
• 27:09
  Not to do that though. Like, you know how many shops
• 27:12
  that have indoor ranges once indoor season rolls around and
• 27:16
  running ends do leagues, you know?
• 27:19
  So when hunting ends and it's you live in a town that freaking
• 27:24
  snows, like instead of putting your bow back under your bed
• 27:28
  every Tuesday night, you head to the bow shop and you shoot your
• 27:32
  league. You know, like you're still,
• 27:35
  you're still shooting, which is the the part that like we're
• 27:38
  trying, you know, keeping you involved in the sport, but
• 27:42
  you're also picking up something that is just for, for fun and
• 27:46
  like to get better at shooting. And that, you know, I think a
• 27:50
  purist is a good word to call the people who are like that.
• 27:54
  The purists would say like, Oh well, we don't want you
• 27:57
  demeaning the sport or making it sound like it's easier than it.
• 28:00
  Is the person that said that? Because I, I read that comment,
• 28:04
  I think I responded, I think I responded to that guy on your
• 28:07
  post. But a lot of people that say
• 28:09
  that probably aren't even very good themselves.
• 28:11
  Yeah. Or don't even own a target
• 28:14
  though, you know, don't even shoot target both of the target.
• 28:17
  Archers, like if you go to a tournament and you're shooting,
• 28:21
  people won't treat you like that.
• 28:22
  So it's weird because the the people who say that stuff on the
• 28:26
  Internet are not the people that like we are shooting, of course.
• 28:29
  Of course you never see people leave negative comments on any
• 28:33
  sport. I don't care what it is,
• 28:35
  motorcycling, mountain biking, rock climbing, The people that
• 28:38
  are out there and are pretty good at it and having a lot of
• 28:41
  fun and active in it are never the ones trolling people
• 28:45
  bringing them down. It's the people sitting at home
• 28:47
  wishing they were doing that. So rather than go in and do it,
• 28:50
  they'll just talk smack about whoever is actually doing it.
• 28:54
  So for me, I'll tell you, I don't care either.
• 28:56
  Negative. I'll take negative comments
• 28:57
  forever and you know it doesn't matter.
• 29:00
  I I just hope that one, what we're doing in any of our videos
• 29:05
  helps to grow the sport of archery and also help people
• 29:08
  shoot more year round because what hunters always say is, oh,
• 29:11
  I just want to practice to get better at hunting.
• 29:13
  That's great. But you know what shooting
• 29:14
  indoor does, it makes you a lot better.
• 29:16
  Shooting your bow hunting, shooting your bow more is always
• 29:20
  going to be a good thing in my opinion.
• 29:22
  And like Brianna said, a lot of folks do shoot a week before
• 29:25
  hunting season, hunting season, bow gone the rest of the year.
• 29:30
  But yeah, if you go shoot league on a Tuesday night, even if it's
• 29:33
  not every week, once a month, that's still a lot better than
• 29:36
  nothing. Two weeks during hunting season.
• 29:38
  And that's what I'm saying. It doesn't what whatever you
• 29:40
  want to call just the the key, it's just calm keyboard wars.
• 29:43
  The people are out there throwing comments or whatever it
• 29:47
  it doesn't demean the professionalism of the people
• 29:50
  who do it professionally at all. At the end of the day, more
• 29:55
  people involved in the sport and it's like, you should yeah,
• 30:00
  sure. It's been a rolling topic for
• 30:01
  the past like 3 pods. Now we including this one of of
• 30:05
  of infighting versus bickering. Like, is this a hill to die on?
• 30:10
  You know, of like making the sport fun or just getting
• 30:14
  people, you know, interested in wanting to have a target bow for
• 30:17
  a hobby? No, it's not.
• 30:20
  It's not worth bickering about, you know, like it's just so
• 30:23
  pointless. But it does crack me up because
• 30:25
  it is, it is hilarious being on the sidelines and knowing like,
• 30:29
  obviously he's not, you know, in the male side like Bodie Turner.
• 30:34
  Yeah, but he is darn good, you know, and I'm not saying he's
• 30:39
  going to go out there and place top five with a Perot, like if
• 30:43
  he went and did the championship class.
• 30:45
  Not saying that at all, but why not if you're good in the sport
• 30:51
  will challenge yourself to something different if you've
• 30:53
  done nothing but shoot your hunting bow your whole life,
• 30:56
  Like pick up a different boat. It doesn't even have to be a
• 30:59
  targetable like go pick up a trap bow or something.
• 31:02
  Just go challenge yourself to do something even harder than
• 31:06
  you've been doing. That's that's all you know, I
• 31:10
  find it find interesting. I say all that, I don't practice
• 31:13
  at all. But I want to point something
• 31:17
  out and I don't know, I've, I've never seen you guys talk about
• 31:20
  this, but we've said this about you.
• 31:23
  This is kind of an add on to what we're talking about right
• 31:25
  now with what you guys are doing.
• 31:27
  What's different from you versus the other influencers?
• 31:31
  And This is why we respect you guys so much.
• 31:33
  But everybody comes on and claims I'm the best hunter, I
• 31:37
  killed the biggest deer, I'm the best shooter, I'm a pro shooter
• 31:41
  level. But I just don't shoot
• 31:42
  tournaments. Like you see all these people
• 31:45
  that are online and they're making all these claims and
• 31:48
  they're trying to use those claims to get somewhere, to gain
• 31:52
  followers, to grow their platform or to sound credible.
• 31:57
  What's so interesting about what you guys did is it was just, I'm
• 32:00
  going to come in, I'm a real person showing you real life
• 32:05
  things and I'm going to make archery fun as fuck.
• 32:08
  It was not, hey, I'm the best bow technician.
• 32:11
  I own a shop, I'm the best hunter on this, on that.
• 32:13
  You just keep it real and you show them what you're actually
• 32:16
  doing. And you've never made like lies,
• 32:19
  false claims, exaggerations on anything that you've done to try
• 32:22
  to make people believe you. You just be real.
• 32:25
  There's not very many people doing that.
• 32:27
  Like that's a niche that honestly, I don't know that
• 32:30
  anyone else has even done and I think that's why you guys have
• 32:34
  been really successful. So I don't know I've never said
• 32:36
  that to you, but we we have said that to our own people because
• 32:41
  they've said, hey, what's the deal with that guy?
• 32:43
  Because you're different. You're not.
• 32:45
  Everybody else has look. At the molar, you know.
• 32:50
  Everyone else has approached it. But when you.
• 32:52
  Fraid it like that? To an end soon it has to.
• 32:54
  I don't. Know it's pretty.
• 32:55
  It's not. I'm gonna keep it.
• 32:56
  Yeah. Don't listen to her.
• 32:57
  Yeah. We could almost braid it.
• 32:59
  Yeah. Oh, we should.
• 33:00
  If you can braid my hair, let's do it.
• 33:03
  Let's do it. Let's do it.
• 33:04
  No, I, I mean, I appreciate that.
• 33:06
  And it's, it's interesting just in general.
• 33:10
  We're talking to Greg on the pod That's not out yet, but we were
• 33:15
  talking to him about advice that he would give to up and comers,
• 33:19
  whether it be they're trying to get a sponsorship for being a
• 33:22
  competitor or for for being a YouTube or whatever.
• 33:26
  Because Greg does a lot of contracts for brands and that's
• 33:28
  something he's done for a long time.
• 33:29
  In fact, he did my contract at Beast and probably yours too,
• 33:33
  you know. And the first thing he said was
• 33:36
  that number one on his list is authenticity from people.
• 33:41
  And it doesn't matter if they're competitors or influencers,
• 33:45
  whatever. That's the first and foremost
• 33:47
  thing he looks for. So I think to your point, the
• 33:50
  more you can show up authentic, that's dope.
• 33:53
  And you, you've always done that too, because last year, like we
• 33:56
  said, none of us had met and that's why it's different.
• 33:58
  This year is like you guys and us were like nervous last year
• 34:03
  because we didn't know each other.
• 34:04
  So. Nervous Yeah, so of course we
• 34:06
  are too. We're going to shoot with the
• 34:08
  champ like this is crazy. But this year, you know, in in
• 34:12
  had y'all you met us or we met you and we're like, oh bro, this
• 34:17
  is this person sucks. This isn't what I expected.
• 34:20
  You know that would have sucked, but it's not the case and it's
• 34:23
  it's dope. Or the same people that you see
• 34:26
  on the Internet. And I feel like there's so many
• 34:28
  people and we both met a lot of those who were like, what you
• 34:31
  see on the Internet, you like expect that.
• 34:33
  And then you get there and you're like, who is that?
• 34:36
  Like what has happened? And so there's not a lot of
• 34:39
  people out there keeping it real.
• 34:41
  And the other thing too, like, OK, we just talk shit about your
• 34:43
  7. You probably shot 150 other
• 34:46
  really good arrows today. Yeah, they shot a lot.
• 34:50
  And so it's just what I appreciate about that is the
• 34:55
  keeping it real. Like even on the pro side, like
• 34:57
  there's people who only talk about when they do great, they
• 35:00
  don't share their highs and their lows.
• 35:02
  Like they don't want to seem human because they want to seem
• 35:05
  like a pro. Well, we all go through that.
• 35:07
  So like I've always tried to be upfront, open, honest.
• 35:10
  Like if I'm making changes, I'm testing things, like I like to
• 35:13
  share that that stuff and it does open me up to more
• 35:16
  criticism. I can take it, it's fine.
• 35:18
  But I would rather do it like that and feel like I am honest
• 35:22
  and have nothing to hide then try to hide behind social media
• 35:26
  to make myself seem better, cooler or or more successful
• 35:30
  than what I actually am. Yeah.
• 35:31
  I mean, not a lot of people who do that.
• 35:33
  I just saw you do that this past weekend, right?
• 35:35
  Or maybe the last couple of days before we came over here, you
• 35:39
  put up a post that was like, oh, I did a today I shot or
• 35:42
  yesterday I shot a 297. And then the next day was like a
• 35:45
  298 or something. And I was like, OK, I got a
• 35:48
  shot, you know, But like, that was to me, that's cool.
• 35:51
  That's cool that. Under burst your bubble.
• 35:52
  Yeah, I don't know what that means.
• 35:54
  That was on the X round. The little.
• 35:55
  X OK, but either. But it was a 28X.
• 35:58
  So I don't even. 27X with 23, so it was actually really good.
• 36:02
  Yeah, but my point is like, I don't even know.
• 36:04
  I don't even know that right. But my point, my point is it's
• 36:08
  dope that you're no matter what you score because I've seen you
• 36:11
  do it before. You're going to put it up
• 36:13
  regardless. And to me, that's really, really
• 36:15
  cool. Now I want to, I want to toss
• 36:17
  the ball to tape because I asked this question earlier to Paige.
• 36:20
  He was working. So maybe he heard it, maybe he
• 36:22
  didn't. He was very focused.
• 36:24
  He was focused though, so he he, he probably.
• 36:29
  No, I was just trying to focus on what I was doing because I
• 36:31
  had stuff on you. He.
• 36:32
  Was focused, Brianna. So here's here.
• 36:35
  I honestly, I don't know who was Moody.
• 36:36
  It was interesting. You know, I love but who here?
• 36:39
  Here's my question. OK, I'm in the archery space
• 36:43
  right now. It's just like the whole climate
• 36:46
  of it. What's the wackest thing right
• 36:49
  now that's, like, common? Like, just something you see in
• 36:51
  here, like that's goofy. We should probably stop doing
• 36:53
  that. Like, whoa.
• 36:55
  Anything come to mind? It could be any, but it could be
• 36:58
  any companies, it could be people, it could be, yeah.
• 37:01
  Trends, social media, anything. That's a tough one.
• 37:07
  Hi, Yeah. It is.
• 37:10
  It was that earlier and I was like, woof.
• 37:11
  I hit Greg with it too, and he thought about it, he pondered it
• 37:14
  and he gave up. One A1A and A1B.
• 37:17
  He did? Yeah, he had.
• 37:18
  He had multiple answers, yeah. I had one pretty definitive 1.
• 37:23
  And I think one of yours, your yours was one of his, OK or very
• 37:27
  similar to it, OK. I'll have to come back to that
• 37:30
  one. OK, we'll loop back.
• 37:31
  I'll have to think on that one. When?
• 37:33
  You're ready no matter what people are talking about.
• 37:35
  Just go. And then we'll start going to
• 37:37
  log it in, yeah. We'll follow it up with now you
• 37:39
  hold on, I'm going to ask a question then you can just cut
• 37:42
  this out if you can't answer. All right.
• 37:44
  Can you talk about the new site coming out yet or no?
• 37:47
  Umm no, I can't give any like details on.
• 37:51
  It then we won't talk about it. That's something new is coming
• 37:54
  out. That's a leak.
• 37:55
  Right there I would. Just say that's a leak right
• 37:57
  there. Something new?
• 37:58
  Yeah, we have a new site. Yeah, and it's.
• 38:00
  Well, we'll have a Black Gold have a new site coming out in
• 38:04
  mid-april to early May. And it's nice.
• 38:07
  Flock to your shop when it does, I mean run their Sprint.
• 38:11
  It's a pretty that's pretty sweet.
• 38:13
  Past the speed limit. It has everything to be thought
• 38:17
  of, has been thought of on it. So facts.
• 38:19
  Very detailed. I want it.
• 38:22
  Yeah, want it. Brianna, we need to get shooting
• 38:25
  her about. Well, OK, what's the best way
• 38:26
  she wants to increase her draw poundage?
• 38:28
  Obviously there's workouts and stuff you could do.
• 38:30
  I always say the best thing you can do is shoot more.
• 38:33
  What would you guys agree with that?
• 38:34
  So just shoot more so. With what you saw at the end of
• 38:37
  the day where we started doing like match play alternating,
• 38:40
  like tomorrow we're going to do some closest to center stuff
• 38:42
  that's even more fun. But I think it's doing things
• 38:47
  like that where if you just said, hey, pick your bow up,
• 38:49
  let's just shoot a 15 arrow match.
• 38:51
  Like that's not intimidating. It's not a lot of arrows, it's
• 38:53
  not bad, but it's going to make you better.
• 38:55
  It's still practice. You're still going to build
• 38:56
  strength. And so I think it's stuff like
• 38:59
  that where if you just look at it like, I have to do this and
• 39:01
  it's grueling and I have to shoot X amount of arrows, like
• 39:04
  that's not very exciting and like nobody wants to do that,
• 39:06
  but we should shoot together. I'm going to that I need a way
• 39:11
  to make it fun because for me shooting like indoors is the
• 39:15
  most. I don't know how y'all have done
• 39:18
  it. I think the most boring shit
• 39:22
  I've ever done. I think it's fun.
• 39:24
  I tell you I tried. I love indoors, it's like
• 39:26
  therapeutic. Went with James and I brought my
• 39:28
  bow to the the shop and we put up, you know, target for me and
• 39:33
  a target for him. I made it 6 ends and I quit.
• 39:37
  I said this sucks and I quit. I didn't even finish all round
• 39:42
  and I've never done it since. So I only go and I filmed for
• 39:46
  him. What he's doing is like Road to
• 39:47
  Vegas stuff, but the problem is so I need to find a way to make
• 39:52
  it fun at home because James knows it's like a running joke.
• 39:55
  Every time I say I'm going to do it and he finishes just a
• 39:57
  sentence for me now and he goes like oh wait, you're going to
• 39:59
  say you need to shoot in the house.
• 40:00
  I'm like, yeah, I was going to say that.
• 40:03
  And you know how many times I've promptly done it one time and I
• 40:08
  shot 2 arrows and it was on the shitty ass target that's so hard
• 40:12
  to pull out of. I literally left my arrows in it
• 40:14
  and said fuck this Jake you can get off.
• 40:18
  She's shooting 48 lbs. I'm like, it's not hard to pull
• 40:21
  them like. And.
• 40:23
  But so I need to come up with a game, but it's got to be a
• 40:25
  single player game that James maybe just like shouts out some
• 40:28
  rules or something. Because the problem is, is like
• 40:31
  I am, it doesn't matter. Like there is just I it have to
• 40:36
  be on a rainy day when James is caught pneumonia and he broke a
• 40:43
  finger in his bone and then like.
• 40:46
  A finger in his bone. A bone in his finger and the
• 40:49
  lights are stabbed himself in the eye on accident with a stick
• 40:52
  and then maybe I have a shot at like being competitive in match
• 40:58
  play. We have done a tournament for
• 41:01
  Funsies 3D where I shoot and then I hand him my bow and he
• 41:07
  shoots my bow. He still won.
• 41:10
  Fun fact, we can aim a bow better women are typically
• 41:17
  better at shooting the bow than guys are.
• 41:21
  We just have an advantage because we're stronger and we
• 41:23
  can hold the bow steadier so we can hold the bow where we want
• 41:26
  it to be. Worden.
• 41:27
  Typically guys are don't like don't have as good of execution
• 41:31
  and they don't actually shoot No, but if you like most women,
• 41:35
  seems like it's easier for women to grasp the mechanics of
• 41:39
  archery faster I. Would.
• 41:41
  Agree. With that than men are, yeah.
• 41:43
  I've noticed that when I coach people or like help people out,
• 41:45
  I. Mean some people are helpless.
• 41:47
  Teach a woman but. Most people that like they start
• 41:50
  to pick it up really fast like women normally pick it up a lot
• 41:53
  faster. 100 easier to teach. Yeah.
• 41:54
  But so that's been that's been the there's just no like we
• 41:59
  attempt to make rules and and things and handicaps.
• 42:02
  I was just going to say to you a handicap.
• 42:03
  Some sort of odds that I'll have a chance.
• 42:06
  I still never win, but so just know it like that would be a
• 42:11
  super fun game. Blade would be like I already
• 42:13
  know the results of this game. So it's the reality is you could
• 42:15
  just stop playing if we got narrows and be done today.
• 42:19
  If we got you an accurate enough handicap.
• 42:22
  Yeah, I haven't found out what kind of like golf handicaps like
• 42:25
  I got to figure out what his to mine would be.
• 42:28
  I mean he's getting good enough now like his ex should be the
• 42:31
  same as your 9 or something right?
• 42:33
  To where? What you can do is you can you'd
• 42:36
  have to shoot a full round to get your handicap would you can
• 42:39
  shoot a full Vegas game. So the full 30 arrows and then
• 42:43
  you take your score and then divide that by your 30.
• 42:46
  It would give you like your error average arrow value and
• 42:49
  then you guys can shoot like say A5 end match, say your average
• 42:54
  arrow value was a seven. So the first, well, I'm just
• 42:57
  saying for in. In.
• 43:01
  Theory. I talked myself down so I can't
• 43:04
  say it's a possible logical option.
• 43:08
  Let's at least say not. I love it, I love it.
• 43:11
  In theory. In theory.
• 43:20
  In theory your your average is A7 or his is let's say a nine
• 43:27
  over the course of the the shooting.
• 43:30
  The first end you guys score you you just have to shoot your
• 43:34
  error, your average to score a 10.
• 43:36
  And then the next end you have to gain another point like you
• 43:39
  gain another ring. So his would go 10s would turn
• 43:41
  into 10s and then yours would be eights to 10s.
• 43:45
  So it's more of like an even and it forces you to like stay
• 43:49
  consistent. I would just prefer.
• 43:51
  This and then it pushes him harder because it pushes him to
• 43:54
  shoot XS after the second end every single time to match 10s
• 43:59
  where you get a little bit of a buffer yeah, to to carry your
• 44:02
  10s. So like we'll have to figure out
• 44:04
  how to to make a handicap like that or play a game where the
• 44:07
  score changes like their mind increases even if it's an 8,
• 44:11
  whereas his does not or you know, we've done that similarly
• 44:14
  at a three DI don't use that thing.
• 44:16
  I'm. Gonna I'm gonna hit the bathroom
• 44:17
  with you. Or you in a pot as you drinks.
• 44:19
  Can I have my? Water when you come back,
• 44:21
  please. Thank you.
• 44:23
  So we'll have to come up. We've done that at tax with a
• 44:26
  handicap for him and the rest of us don't have the handicap
• 44:30
  because or we have the handicap and he doesn't just because
• 44:33
  there's like you see, like what he can do on no, I just I just
• 44:40
  like to hit the plate so I can kill the animal.
• 44:42
  Yes, that's it. And I hope I don't choose to
• 44:45
  shoot far enough that he can turn the my Harrow gets there.
• 44:51
  But I do need to start shooting in because.
• 44:54
  You're like one level above the like suction cup.
• 44:57
  Lick them, stick them arrows. Right.
• 44:59
  Yeah, basically like the goal is to get to.
• 45:04
  I wanted to be I don't say wanted I want to be at 55 by the
• 45:10
  time we're going to turn it back to 50 and I can draw it at 50.
• 45:12
  We just it's at 48 and it was super easy to draw through these
• 45:16
  last couple hunts with the new strings on and but the goal is
• 45:20
  to be at 55 by Oklahoma attack, which is in April, which is
• 45:26
  literally 5 paths. That's easy.
• 45:28
  Too much OK for a man that's. Easy for a woman.
• 45:31
  If he were to just randomly turn your bow up and you have no clue
• 45:38
  he's doing it and he could just walk over and you could after
• 45:40
  say like a week of shooting, you guys get back and you practice.
• 45:43
  You start to start, start it now and you just start shooting
• 45:46
  arrows every day. Whether it's 15 or 20 or 50 or
• 45:48
  100, doesn't matter. He could turn your bow up like a
• 45:51
  half pound, like 1/2 turn or 1/4 turn or a full turn every three,
• 45:56
  4-5 days, every week, week and a half, something like that, and
• 45:59
  you would never even notice it because you're strong enough if
• 46:03
  you can pull it 50 and it's easy.
• 46:06
  Yeah. Like 55?
• 46:08
  Like you'll still be able to do it, it's just not saying you
• 46:10
  need to get your muscles. Make it through.
• 46:12
  Accustomed to it. And be like, OK, I can shoot
• 46:14
  tomorrow. Like if I get to 55 and I only
• 46:17
  make it through 5 targets and he has to start.
• 46:19
  Ah, that's fine with me. Yeah, I just want you can hump
• 46:21
  55 by then, like, and be able to hump the bow back.
• 46:24
  Yep, that's all I want because I'm super tired of sitting at
• 46:30
  this stagnant 47 to 50 range going down because I haven't
• 46:33
  shot the bow in a couple months going back up and be like, OK,
• 46:36
  this is fine, but I can't turn it up anymore.
• 46:38
  And the only way I think to do that like I'm I'm doing the gym,
• 46:43
  I am exercising and it's like that does a lot Jack shit just
• 46:47
  shooting the bow every day. Like I don't care how many gym
• 46:51
  videos are out there. This will increase your
• 46:52
  poundage. It will help.
• 46:55
  It will help with some stamina but it's not the same because
• 46:59
  you're never going to engage the exact muscles as when you are
• 47:04
  drawing the exact bow. So it is to me it is just
• 47:08
  shooting. You, it doesn't have to be a
• 47:10
  commitment where it's like, oh, I have to go shoot.
• 47:13
  Like I said, a huge number of arrows.
• 47:15
  If you kept the target in the house and every night before you
• 47:19
  went to bed, you said I'm just going to shoot 15 arrows real
• 47:21
  quick. You got 5 arrows.
• 47:23
  You shoot three NS. Even if it's blank bill of five
• 47:26
  arrows, it will take you literally under 5 minutes.
• 47:30
  Like that's enough to help you consistently build your
• 47:32
  strength. If every bow hunter and every
• 47:34
  person did only that and did it every night of the year they
• 47:37
  were home, they would be significantly better, stronger,
• 47:40
  aim better, execute better. Like all the things.
• 47:41
  Oh. I know.
• 47:43
  It doesn't take much. So rather than shooting indoor
• 47:46
  targets, what you need to do is I forget the brand, but the
• 47:51
  they, they have a 2D pin up target that's foam.
• 47:55
  It's like the shape you can get them in all different animal
• 47:57
  shapes and sizes. And they have like a AS like the
• 47:59
  scoring rings on them, like a 3D target, but you can like pin
• 48:02
  them up to the target. It's a 2.
• 48:05
  It's a 2D foam, 3D target. And we actually get archery
• 48:09
  games that are super fun that you could shoot and you can play
• 48:11
  golf or baseball or battleship or beer pong if you want.
• 48:15
  You could drink water. That's right.
• 48:17
  That's right. So Speaking of poundage, right?
• 48:20
  OK, this is an interesting topic, yes.
• 48:22
  Before we continue, would you grab me a liquid death or any
• 48:26
  form of water out of the refrigerator because my cup's
• 48:29
  not empty? Can I have a liquid death?
• 48:32
  OK, Yes, I can. Yes, I can.
• 48:35
  Who named it Liquid Death? He was just grabbing them off
• 48:39
  the shelf because they're delicious.
• 48:40
  And I was like, what even is that?
• 48:43
  This one's called Dead Billionaire.
• 48:45
  It's a Gavi tea. You want this one.
• 48:47
  OK. And then there's.
• 48:48
  A marketing tactic because that one kind.
• 48:50
  Of what the one that I had was recently but someone had one and
• 48:55
  I tasted it and I. Was like.
• 48:58
  Oh F, that's good. I'm not a fan of like the
• 49:00
  seltzer ones so I don't drink the the sparkling water ones.
• 49:05
  What's wrong with you? I don't like spicy water.
• 49:09
  I don't like spicy Germans. Spicy.
• 49:12
  Mexicans. All right, here's my love.
• 49:16
  Sparkling. You probably.
• 49:17
  Drink that top Chico stuff too, don't you?
• 49:19
  You got to turn your. You got to hold your pinky out.
• 49:22
  Now, so I actually found before we get back to your stories real
• 49:25
  quick side note at Vons or any store that owns owned by the
• 49:32
  Vons companies, Albertson's, Safeway, I think those are the
• 49:37
  three. There's their brand of water and
• 49:41
  you know, have you ever heard? And my sister told me about
• 49:45
  this. I was like, First off, pretty.
• 49:47
  That's fucking heart attack in a cup.
• 49:49
  You need to put it down. So right now there's this trend
• 49:54
  of drinking soda and pouring Creamer into it.
• 49:59
  And it's called like creamy something I don't know.
• 50:03
  So I got like a new Italian cream soda.
• 50:06
  Yes, basically like that. And I was like first like the
• 50:10
  soda contains so much sugar, then your Creamer.
• 50:14
  I was like that sounds beat. But there are these waters that
• 50:22
  are like Vons brand, so they are a $0.99 a piece and it's a 30 oz
• 50:28
  jug so it's huge. And they make strawberry cream,
• 50:32
  orange cream and Peach cream, but it's just seltzered,
• 50:37
  sparkling Princess water, not spicy Mexican water.
• 50:43
  OK, he sees Princess water, but it doesn't like have that thick
• 50:47
  nasty texture, obviously because it's water of like putting
• 50:51
  coffee Creamer in your soda. That is disgusting.
• 50:56
  That's kind of like. I can't bring my.
• 50:57
  That's kind of like putting Pickles in there.
• 50:59
  Like people are doing that thing with the Sonic, the Sonic trend
• 51:01
  where they were going and getting like they're putting
• 51:03
  Pickles in there. Doctor Pepper.
• 51:06
  What is wrong with people like I don't know, but anyways, it's
• 51:10
  like they are the most delicious waters and James knows I he's
• 51:15
  like, you know, that's like not water, right?
• 51:17
  Like yes it is. You cannot convince me
• 51:20
  otherwise. I don't care if.
• 51:21
  It burns. It's not water.
• 51:24
  But they are so good. So I do love.
• 51:26
  Let me let me taste test this one up with and then you can go
• 51:29
  back to yourself. That one's tea, lemonade and
• 51:31
  agave. That is very good.
• 51:33
  It's like, what's that green tea brand?
• 51:36
  The one in the. Arizona.
• 51:37
  Arizona Teas. I don't think those are strong
• 51:39
  enough. Like when I took a drink I
• 51:41
  expected like a hit of flavor and I tasted like it was watered
• 51:46
  down. Very good.
• 51:48
  Yeah, it's like 3 drinks after you pop the top and it's gone.
• 51:52
  All right, are we? So I don't drink drinks very
• 51:54
  fast so. Are we ready for my hot topic?
• 51:56
  Hit. Yep.
• 51:57
  OK, so Hoyt just came out with a 90 LB bow that you can buy and a
• 52:07
  lot of consumers have been wanting this.
• 52:09
  I knew it would. I assume it's probably doing
• 52:11
  pretty well since it's the only brand that makes 1 to my
• 52:15
  knowledge. What do you think of a 90 LB
• 52:20
  bow? Do you think that's cool, not
• 52:21
  cool, irrelevant? Like what do you what do you
• 52:24
  think about just old? I mean, if, if you can do it,
• 52:28
  then why not? You know what I mean?
• 52:31
  Like I've shot an 80 LB hunting bow for the last probably 8 or 9
• 52:37
  years and all my buddies and my dad always give me a hard time.
• 52:41
  Like her dad gives me a hard time.
• 52:43
  Like why you shoot 80? Because I can like does not like
• 52:48
  the bows going to break or anything.
• 52:51
  It's not like you're going to hurt yourself.
• 52:53
  Like, yeah, if you're completely overbowed, you can hurt
• 52:56
  yourself. If you can't like physically
• 52:58
  pull the bow back, you're having to like alter how you're pulling
• 53:01
  the bow just to get the bow back, like things like that.
• 53:03
  But where I think potentially could run into problems are the
• 53:10
  guys on the upper end. It could have tuning issues
• 53:15
  because now like you're getting a dude at say 30 plus inch draw
• 53:20
  length with a 90 LB bow that's a lean to like a solid piece of
• 53:25
  carbon. Basically to be able to tune it
• 53:28
  like like there's the arrow like arrows are, you're going to be
• 53:32
  very, very limited on what type of arrow you can shoot because
• 53:36
  of the spine. It's going to need just.
• 53:38
  The amount of force. The stiffness you're going to
• 53:40
  need to put into an arrow. You got to shoot a piece of
• 53:43
  rebar out of that thing. Also too, one thing with the
• 53:47
  like the strings, the average string that is built like you're
• 53:51
  going to have to go up in your strand count, you're going to
• 53:54
  have to change your serving diameter.
• 53:55
  Like there's certain things that are going to need to change
• 53:57
  because the like everything is designed off of like a 70 LB
• 54:01
  like metric, you know what I mean?
• 54:03
  So I you're definitely average and I bet you most string
• 54:07
  companies like, and they quite knowing that they built that bow
• 54:10
  like I'm sure those cables are beefed up quite a bit so that
• 54:13
  way you don't have stretching and things like that.
• 54:15
  But if you get strings from anywhere else like, you're going
• 54:18
  to have to get extra strands put in those cables.
• 54:22
  Yeah, but overall, you think it's fine so long as someone is?
• 54:25
  Yeah. I mean, I don't I don't see any
• 54:27
  issue with it. Like is it unnecessary?
• 54:29
  Yes. I mean, my mom shoots 53 to 55
• 54:34
  lbs and she's killed, I don't know, 7 or 8 elk now with her
• 54:38
  bow and like this year she or lap this year or last year, one
• 54:42
  of the two, she shot her bowl like 65 yards and got a complete
• 54:45
  pass through. Yeah, with like a 345 green
• 54:48
  arrow at like 26 inch draw length, like arrow going speed
• 54:52
  of turtle. Yeah.
• 54:54
  Like, yeah, it's just like you shoot of the the correct broad
• 54:58
  head and the right like based off your poundage and draw
• 55:02
  length and arrow weight and everything like that.
• 55:03
  Proper shot placement in the right sign of bright kind of
• 55:05
  broad head for penetration. You can shoot anything you want.
• 55:09
  OK, I'm jumping in though. OK, it's easy for a guy to make
• 55:12
  that claim because when you draw the bow back, you know, no
• 55:16
  matter what happens, how the animal moves, whatever, if you
• 55:19
  hit the animal anywhere near the vitals, you're going to get
• 55:22
  penetration. That's why I said if you have
• 55:23
  the right arrow and broadhead combination and Shaw placement.
• 55:27
  Time. I have a 27 and three quarter
• 55:30
  inch hunting drawings and 60 lbs.
• 55:34
  And you've first hand witnessed me hit animals not in the
• 55:39
  shoulder blade like where I'd want to hit them and just by the
• 55:42
  animal was leaning, moving, whatever.
• 55:43
  It's like I hit a brick wall. I get no penetration and I have
• 55:47
  the right arrow build and the right broad heads and the right
• 55:50
  like there's well. You didn't have a broad head for
• 55:52
  that one. This is before beast, but that's
• 55:55
  not the point. The point is is that I I agree.
• 55:59
  I think the 90 LB bow is cool and it's different in America.
• 56:03
  This side note real fast. It's like white tail hunters and
• 56:05
  then everybody else. And so I definitely call myself
• 56:09
  the everybody else living on the western side of the world, elk,
• 56:12
  antelope, mule deer, you know, black tail, whatever.
• 56:15
  But then going to Africa and going to Australia and hunting
• 56:18
  Asiatic water Buffalo, Cape Buffalo, freaking giraffes and
• 56:21
  zebras are dents. And you know, all these things
• 56:23
  that in other countries I absolutely see and why that
• 56:28
  would be beneficial because even with the 90 LB bow, you could
• 56:31
  probably square a giraffe rib and maybe not go through.
• 56:33
  Like the animals are built so different than what we have here
• 56:36
  in the States that I feel like, you know, we always talk about
• 56:39
  it's like what's the magic number that would get you
• 56:40
  through an elk shoulder? Like if you square an elk in the
• 56:44
  leg bone of the shoulder or whatever, like you ain't getting
• 56:46
  through. Even at 70 lbs I've seen people
• 56:48
  not penetrate. 300 win. Meg Baby.
• 56:50
  Like. Baby, get there. 90 get there,
• 56:53
  like obviously, yes, what he said.
• 56:54
  If you've got good shot placement, good, you know, don't
• 56:57
  hit that kind of stuff, but shit happens.
• 57:00
  What if you do? Yeah.
• 57:01
  It happens. So if as a woman, if I just went
• 57:04
  I could pull 70 lbs tomorrow, do you think I'm going to go?
• 57:07
  Well, I was fine at 55 and 60. Why shoot 70?
• 57:09
  Fuck no. No, you're going to.
• 57:12
  Shoot. 70 Oh fuckers. Yeah, so I think the ones who
• 57:15
  complain about it are just jealous they can't pull it,
• 57:17
  because if I could, I would. And, and, and the Tate's point,
• 57:20
  my buddy, privileged bull hunter from Hawaii or just filming with
• 57:24
  him about 3 weeks ago, his Matthews lift has, he's got it
• 57:31
  to 85 lbs. And I shot it a few times.
• 57:34
  I was like feels fine, you know, like, I wouldn't be opposed to
• 57:38
  it. Like the virtue comes in 80 lbs
• 57:40
  and I wouldn't be opposed to going to you know, if I were to
• 57:43
  hunt a Cape Buffalo or something, you bet your ass I'd
• 57:45
  be shooting it at hot of 80 and as hot as it could go, you know,
• 57:49
  because that's what's available to us.
• 57:51
  So I thought, I think it's funny when people just see I all at 90
• 57:55
  lbs is so stupid. I'm like, I don't think it's
• 57:57
  stupid. Like your point, if if you're
• 57:59
  stroking it no problem and can shoot it like comfortably, then
• 58:03
  what's wrong with having more energy and more force behind the
• 58:06
  arrow as long as their setups. Good.
• 58:07
  The question though, there are not the question, but that is
• 58:10
  like the statement you made right there is it?
• 58:12
  It's as long as you're stroking it.
• 58:15
  But I think there are some people out there who, and I'm,
• 58:18
  I'm not saying a ton by any means, but so like, because it
• 58:22
  came out, it's like, all right, need.
• 58:24
  Yeah. And it's like, buddy, I hate to
• 58:27
  break it to you. Yeah, you don't.
• 58:28
  You don't that. Your shoulder doesn't need it.
• 58:31
  Your age doesn't need it. Your back doesn't need it.
• 58:34
  Well, there's a lot to be said like that.
• 58:36
  It's going to be hard on your shoulders like.
• 58:38
  Yeah, it's going to worry you. Like this, it is definitely
• 58:40
  going to worry you down. And now what you're also going
• 58:43
  to have to be able to handle is not just the weight of the draw
• 58:47
  of the poundage of the bow, but also being able to now shoot the
• 58:52
  holding weight that 90 lbs is going to bring with it as well.
• 58:55
  Because it's you're still running 80% let off or 85% let
• 58:59
  off it just because it. Didn't magically come with a
• 59:01
  95%. Exactly right.
• 59:03
  It's not like you're not going to be holding 11 lbs ten 1011
• 59:07
  lbs back there anymore. You're going to add.
• 59:09
  Be holding like a target. 16, probably 16 to 18 lbs depending
• 59:12
  on where you have that set, you know, and it's with that being
• 59:16
  like that's a bigger jump. Like you could go UPS.
• 59:18
  I would go turn your bow up 6 lbs on draw weight and you could
• 59:22
  shoot it no problem. And maybe bumps your holding
• 59:24
  weight by half a pound, quarter pound, whatever.
• 59:26
  If I were to bump your holding weight by 6 lbs, you can't even
• 59:29
  hold it on the back wall. You'd be bouncing off the back
• 59:31
  wall constantly. Yeah.
• 59:33
  So that's where the biggest that jump is going to get guys.
• 59:36
  How much can they practice with that bow?
• 59:38
  Depending on now I do think though like.
• 59:41
  Don't get me wrong, if we had the option, I would shoot a 9590
• 59:44
  LB bow if I could. Yeah, right.
• 59:46
  Like if if. I mean because I can, I can pull
• 59:49
  it. For his side, that's a.
• 59:51
  Freak draw, pounded strike like it's very weird.
• 59:53
  I don't. Well, the thing.
• 59:55
  That comes with you target officers well.
• 59:56
  Because you know. I've shot a bow my entire life.
• 59:58
  Same here. And that's the that's the thing.
• 1:00:00
  Like when I my buddy, he was surprised how I was just pulling
• 1:00:05
  his bow and it looked the same as mine and I'm like, oh, do you
• 1:00:07
  got to understand? Just like you said, I've shot a
• 1:00:08
  bow my whole life. So like the the whole draw
• 1:00:11
  process I was like I guarantee and I'm not.
• 1:00:13
  In it because I'm. Cocky like I can.
• 1:00:15
  Pull £100. It's your it's your form in your
• 1:00:17
  tech. Exactly.
• 1:00:18
  Yeah. I've helped guys in my parents
• 1:00:20
  Archer shop that are like that look like freaking the Hulk and
• 1:00:24
  the rock dude. Like just big, big dudes that
• 1:00:26
  come in and they instantly like, I want an 80 LB bow.
• 1:00:30
  They're 30, they're 64. They got a 31 inch draw length.
• 1:00:32
  You know what I mean? It's like they can't even get
• 1:00:34
  the string to bend. They're like something's wrong
• 1:00:36
  with the bow. It's locked up.
• 1:00:36
  I'm like, I don't, I mean, I don't think so.
• 1:00:38
  And I like grab the bow. I'm looking at it, you know, and
• 1:00:40
  it's like, I'm just not thinking anything.
• 1:00:42
  I just grab it with fingers and I'm just like, Nope, it's
• 1:00:45
  everything's good. And they go from about, they go
• 1:00:48
  from that big to about that big instantly.
• 1:00:51
  And it's like instant deflation. I'm like, it's like you just,
• 1:00:54
  you don't shoot a bow all the time.
• 1:00:56
  Yeah, it's different. And I, I could watch someone
• 1:00:58
  draw and notice right away if they have like grew up shooting
• 1:01:04
  a bow or they're just now learning because like you just
• 1:01:05
  tell by the way, the elbows coming back at what angle,
• 1:01:08
  whether or not the efficiency is maxed and the way we all draw is
• 1:01:13
  very similar. Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:01:15
  Just the overall form using leverage, leaning into it a bit,
• 1:01:18
  and it just makes it so smooth and uses both velocity and
• 1:01:22
  strength to get that string back.
• 1:01:24
  You know a. Little bit of pre lift.
• 1:01:25
  It's not that we're doing this in sky drawing, but you're pre
• 1:01:28
  lifting and then doing this self gravity.
• 1:01:30
  You're essentially sharing the load between your bow gravity,
• 1:01:33
  your front half and your back half.
• 1:01:34
  So that way you don't end up with the shoulder issues that a
• 1:01:37
  lot of the people have. So that helps overall.
• 1:01:39
  One thing I want to point out real quick on the hunting side,
• 1:01:42
  your lady listeners will understand this.
• 1:01:44
  I think you'll understand this. But no, yeah, no guy probably
• 1:01:50
  ever has to like think about all the things that we do when you
• 1:01:53
  draw back on an animal. Like I don't have nerves when
• 1:01:56
  I'm hunting like a typical can I make this shot or whatever.
• 1:02:01
  Like I have nerves of like is he at the perfect angle that I
• 1:02:04
  think I can get penetration or like I have?
• 1:02:07
  Fear that like the speed of my arrow and how far the art is
• 1:02:12
  like when you get there in time, like you know, with the wind.
• 1:02:16
  And if, if he takes a step or turns in the slightest, is he
• 1:02:20
  broadside enough that if he turns like it's not going to end
• 1:02:24
  up being in the shoulder because it's going to take my arrows 3
• 1:02:26
  seconds to get there 70 yards shot like I took so prime
• 1:02:30
  example like what you're explaining here.
• 1:02:32
  And in the moment now I'm like, I'm trying to force myself.
• 1:02:37
  I will not take a shot beyond this for now with my doe set up
• 1:02:42
  because granted I got the animal I harvested, I recovered it, it
• 1:02:48
  was a very lethal shot, but it is absolutely not where I put
• 1:02:53
  the arrow. So I see this animal.
• 1:02:58
  I one up, I hide behind a tree. I'm just, I mean, I was like,
• 1:03:02
  this can't be any more perfect. It is just broadside fingers,
• 1:03:05
  like watching a cow in a field. I was like this, this can't be
• 1:03:09
  any easier. I step out, I draw.
• 1:03:13
  He's kind of walking. So I'm like fuckers start
• 1:03:16
  walking. So I start walking with him.
• 1:03:19
  He stops, he puts his head to head down and I'm like, great.
• 1:03:23
  I let it go. I am 80 yards from the steer.
• 1:03:28
  The amount of time it takes my at this time it was at £50.50
• 1:03:32
  pound 25 inch. Like they don't get much shorter
• 1:03:36
  than mine before you got to join the kids vosectual store.
• 1:03:39
  You know like 25 inch straw length.
• 1:03:42
  The seconds you can count for my arrow to get there, it literally
• 1:03:46
  goes out of frame. It comes back into frame from
• 1:03:50
  its rainbow. By the time it did that, he had
• 1:03:53
  time to not only pick his head up, turn to look, turn to leave,
• 1:04:00
  shoot him straight through the ass cheek, out the ass cheek,
• 1:04:04
  back up into the body through the cavity.
• 1:04:08
  Lethal shot, very lethal. Not at all where I placed it
• 1:04:12
  when he was broadside eating. Calm as can be.
• 1:04:16
  But when you're shooting 50 lbs at a 25 inch straw like you have
• 1:04:21
  to think how long is my air going to take to get there?
• 1:04:24
  Is he calm enough so that he doesn't react too quickly like.
• 1:04:27
  There is no way in that. Sort of turn am I going to end
• 1:04:29
  up in the shoulder like and you can't you can't but you have to
• 1:04:33
  just say OK, well then my effective range even though I'm
• 1:04:36
  effective at a target at this range doesn't mean my effective
• 1:04:40
  range on an animal calm or not calm is that same number and
• 1:04:44
  there's just there's just more you have to think about when
• 1:04:46
  it's not 70 lbs we. Haunted deer.
• 1:04:48
  We're hunting in Texas this year.
• 1:04:50
  First of this ever happened to me and I'm at 18 yards.
• 1:04:54
  I'm in a tree stand. There's a doe and I know Texas
• 1:04:58
  deer duck, right? So I'm aiming like heart still
• 1:05:01
  on the deer, like that whole aim below the deer thing.
• 1:05:04
  I want to punch every person in the face that says that to me
• 1:05:06
  because I've had the 1 deer that I posted on camera from Canada
• 1:05:10
  and then one deer like years ago actually the one ducked me in
• 1:05:14
  New Zealand that wasn't even a deer but I missed it completely.
• 1:05:18
  But other than that I kill all the deer.
• 1:05:20
  And so when people say aim below their body I'm like I would have
• 1:05:23
  wounded more deer aiming in that weird shit.
• 1:05:26
  You do guessing for the duck then like if you aim heart and
• 1:05:29
  you make a good shot, you'll still kill it.
• 1:05:31
  If it ducks, you've got inches to play with and if it ducks
• 1:05:34
  enough that you then clip it through the back, miss,
• 1:05:37
  whatever, then it deserves to live if it moves that much.
• 1:05:39
  But I'm never going to aim off the deer but I'm aiming heart.
• 1:05:42
  I shoot this doe 18 yards. She ducks so fast that literally
• 1:05:46
  was like what even just happened and I spined her and she just
• 1:05:50
  went dropped and died in like 3 seconds which was wild because I
• 1:05:53
  I like fully thought oh man I'm going to have to shoot her
• 1:05:55
  again. Nope, she was dead.
• 1:05:56
  But I mean, she moved a significant amount and it was 18
• 1:06:00
  yards. Yeah, so and so it's not even a
• 1:06:03
  like people say a distance thing and I've seen you guys film
• 1:06:05
  enough. I'm curious if you agree with
• 1:06:07
  this. But I think they duck more the
• 1:06:09
  sound of the arrow than they do the sound of the bow.
• 1:06:12
  And so if you look, you only want 20 yards at whitetail, it's
• 1:06:15
  either you don't know the difference, right.
• 1:06:17
  But hunting Western, when we film hunt further shots, it's
• 1:06:20
  like sound of the bow. They might look, they might
• 1:06:22
  react like in some way like that, but usually it's not until
• 1:06:26
  the arrows back into frame and it's coming in that last little
• 1:06:29
  bit that they finally start to move.
• 1:06:32
  Well, I also think that and not just the sound of the arrow, but
• 1:06:35
  actually in my opinion even seeing it like.
• 1:06:38
  It's a fast. Moving arrow they have
• 1:06:41
  phenomenal eyesight. They have more than a, you know,
• 1:06:45
  our line of bit peripheral vision.
• 1:06:48
  So like all of a sudden think about a family when you see
• 1:06:51
  think about a human like you, you see that fly.
• 1:06:55
  You don't think they see the arrow coming like when it starts
• 1:06:58
  to drop into you know, I think all of it plays a factor.
• 1:07:02
  But I did the same thing even on a crazy one shows.
• 1:07:07
  I'm trying to get myself into food mechanicals just to say
• 1:07:11
  that I can but. I'm I need to have?
• 1:07:14
  That 55 LB hour, but I want to do to feel confident.
• 1:07:17
  That's another reason for it. But so last year I tried them.
• 1:07:21
  I was just having a piss for a year.
• 1:07:24
  That's nothing more than me. But we're sitting in a blind
• 1:07:29
  spring Turkey season and they, he's like, we've got them
• 1:07:35
  figured out. Like they're going to come in
• 1:07:36
  from this direction and they'll come right in front of the
• 1:07:40
  blind. We're sitting there, you hear
• 1:07:42
  right by this, like, all right, he knows his stuff.
• 1:07:46
  Sure as shit. They come right around the
• 1:07:47
  corner of the blind. And I mean, they stop 6 yards, 6
• 1:07:53
  freaking yards in front of me. I'm like, I'm going to have to
• 1:07:57
  like stand up on my seat to shoot this thing out the window.
• 1:08:01
  I shoot this Turkey at six. Freaky I I would thought my
• 1:08:07
  arrow would have passed through it, dug into the ground goner.
• 1:08:12
  I shot this Turkey, my arrow bounced off it.
• 1:08:18
  Not a joke. Birds are weird.
• 1:08:20
  Though. Birds are weird.
• 1:08:22
  Birds are weird. Yeah, I've never got a path.
• 1:08:23
  I've got, I think, one pastor on a Turkey.
• 1:08:25
  Yeah, well The thing is, so birds have feathers, especially
• 1:08:28
  if you hit them towards the the the root of the feather.
• 1:08:32
  That happens. Thick, you know.
• 1:08:34
  But it just goes to show that like.
• 1:08:36
  It didn't hurt the Turkey at all.
• 1:08:37
  Literally it like there was not any blood.
• 1:08:40
  It just hit them, bounced off I. Shot 1 and bounced straight off.
• 1:08:43
  Like straight, like a bounce bat on a target, that's what.
• 1:08:46
  Happened. I was like James did, I was like
• 1:08:51
  did that just it's just when you become off out, what he's like,
• 1:08:57
  I don't, I don't know, like he gets out, he picks it up and I
• 1:09:01
  just, I mean, I squared up the, you know, the, the top of his
• 1:09:04
  leg. Which is where you're supposed
• 1:09:06
  to hit him, right at the top of the drum step.
• 1:09:07
  But just enough that it was the thickest part of their hardest,
• 1:09:12
  the thickest feathers and the hardest feathers where they all
• 1:09:15
  come together. And so you don't just got, you
• 1:09:17
  know, a few thick ass feathers, you got all of his freaking
• 1:09:21
  Turkey wings coming all together in one and he picks up, he's
• 1:09:25
  like, I think he picked up a feather and he's like, no, you
• 1:09:27
  just straight up hit like the hardest part of the yeah, I was
• 1:09:31
  eat the worst looking. Birds have like armors.
• 1:09:34
  I don't take this freaking. I went back.
• 1:09:36
  I didn't even own any fixed points like non used anymore.
• 1:09:39
  I went to Ted and he pulled out his broadhead box.
• 1:09:42
  He's like this one's kind of sharp.
• 1:09:44
  This one's I went in with a mixed back Synette stands like
• 1:09:47
  take the broad heads off. I ain't using the mechanicals.
• 1:09:50
  I don't care what fix played from 1992's in my quimmer right
• 1:09:53
  now I'm not using it. I can.
• 1:09:56
  It was a thunderhead for sure. You know her head, Yeah.
• 1:09:59
  I had a wide variety in there that. 3.
• 1:10:03
  Three blade thunderhead that like folds back.
• 1:10:05
  Oh yeah, that was what I glanced.
• 1:10:07
  Or glanced. I bounced.
• 1:10:09
  Back with to answer, I mean, I think that usually when you when
• 1:10:13
  I've watched footage, pretty much any animal will react some
• 1:10:18
  like at least a flinch or something whether or not they
• 1:10:21
  move a lot. But usually I find that the
• 1:10:24
  reaction happens when the arrow's about 2/3 of the way
• 1:10:26
  there is all, and it doesn't matter if you're 15 yards or 70
• 1:10:32
  yards. It seems like that 2/3 of mark
• 1:10:34
  is where they'll react. But obviously closer is always
• 1:10:39
  better because 2/3 of the way of 70 is a lot more room left to
• 1:10:45
  travel than 2/3 of 25. So you're cutting the reaction
• 1:10:50
  time, definitely. But yeah, I don't know.
• 1:10:52
  I, I think the visual is part of it.
• 1:10:55
  I think it's like the veins are definitely part of it.
• 1:10:57
  I think it's like you hear something coming and then look
• 1:10:59
  and then they, I think they can see catch something.
• 1:11:03
  So I think we're running like a duller.
• 1:11:05
  I know a lot of people will kind of dust their arrows a little
• 1:11:07
  bit to make them not shine and then run in a vein that's pretty
• 1:11:11
  dull as well as low profile are all things that can help reduce
• 1:11:15
  the noise and the the the eye catch of the arrow possibly.
• 1:11:20
  Thing with what you just said though, with broad heads the
• 1:11:23
  beast would be fine but the average person low profile does
• 1:11:26
  not stabilize very well. Higher profile stabilizes more
• 1:11:30
  than than length. So it's like the Blazers.
• 1:11:33
  That's how people blaze all that are really short and tiny but
• 1:11:36
  tall. I mean that's how they've got
• 1:11:37
  away with like that style cut forever.
• 1:11:39
  But the vein material makes a massive difference on the sound.
• 1:11:44
  Like I don't know if you guys have ever tested this, but like
• 1:11:47
  shoot your bow with a couple different veins, you know,
• 1:11:50
  flutch it with three different kinds.
• 1:11:51
  And then one of you go stand down range and listen.
• 1:11:54
  And like we can hear the differences all the time.
• 1:11:57
  He'll shoot and I just close my eyes.
• 1:11:58
  I'm just sitting there listening to go by.
• 1:12:00
  And then like that one was double as loud as whatever the
• 1:12:03
  first one was. Like if we can hear the
• 1:12:04
  difference, you know the animals can hear the difference.
• 1:12:07
  Yeah, because their ears are crazy.
• 1:12:08
  Yeah, you know, But yeah, 90 lbs baby, I'm in, I'm in, Yeah.
• 1:12:15
  I use my feet and both hands. Like a crossbow.
• 1:12:19
  Your dad did that. I think I've seen your dad.
• 1:12:21
  Do that. My dad checked his timing.
• 1:12:22
  Yeah, it's a pro move. It's like Facebook famous or
• 1:12:25
  TikTok famous or. Yeah, I don't think it's, I
• 1:12:27
  don't think it's completely unreasonable.
• 1:12:31
  I think there's definitely like A and guys, it'll, it'll benefit
• 1:12:35
  certain certain people if all you do.
• 1:12:36
  I mean, there's a lot of people who get it that are like just
• 1:12:39
  buying it because it's something new.
• 1:12:41
  Like, oh, I got to have it. Like there's going to be impulse
• 1:12:43
  buys from it. For sure.
• 1:12:46
  I don't even know. I haven't looked at the bow at
• 1:12:48
  all other than I saw, you know, Bo Maher post it on social
• 1:12:51
  media. But like FPS of this thing?
• 1:12:56
  I mean they you still. Got to spine the shit out of
• 1:13:00
  your arrow and like what's it got away?
• 1:13:03
  So like and what's a minimum weight you got to run out of the
• 1:13:08
  arrow? You know the what the FPS of
• 1:13:12
  this quote UN quote 90 LB bow. I think Bomar said he was
• 1:13:16
  getting like, I want to say he was getting like almost 340 out
• 1:13:21
  of like a 600 Green Arrow or something.
• 1:13:24
  Like ridiculous. Yeah, it was 338, like 560.
• 1:13:28
  Here to here. So. 590 in my life.
• 1:13:32
  Because when you hear those numbers, if you like, you can
• 1:13:35
  pause and think like, Oh well, like that's that, you know, like
• 1:13:39
  Matthews, like there's some bows out there that get that speed or
• 1:13:42
  whatever now, but it's not a 600 grain arrow.
• 1:13:47
  Also think about your penetration with your 600 grain
• 1:13:50
  arrow. It'd.
• 1:13:52
  Add 100 grains if you're going to shoot it like the five grains
• 1:13:55
  per pound, how they do like the normal, like the ATA, you know,
• 1:14:00
  70 lbs, Thirty inches, 300 three, 150 grand arrow.
• 1:14:04
  So it'd be at the 90 LB, it'd be a 450 grand arrow.
• 1:14:07
  Yeah. So whatever that translate is
• 1:14:11
  rockets. Fuel.
• 1:14:12
  It's fast. It's fast.
• 1:14:14
  Yeah, it's fast. That would be faster than shit a
• 1:14:17
  450 grand arrow at 90 lbs at even my drawings 29 inches I
• 1:14:21
  think. Well I saw a shop one of my one
• 1:14:25
  of my shops did they got a bow and they did a thing on it was
• 1:14:28
  400. They shot a 450 grand arrow.
• 1:14:30
  It was like 352 three something like.
• 1:14:34
  Burner dude. OK, but what's?
• 1:14:37
  Insane at 29. Inches.
• 1:14:38
  Are they shooting? You'd have to shoot like a 150.
• 1:14:40
  Who makes that? I think Easton makes a dangerous
• 1:14:44
  game and Veno Victory makes a super like a like a 100 or 1:50
• 1:14:48
  as well. Like East, you'd be basically
• 1:14:50
  between an eastern or a like. Just getting arrows built for
• 1:14:53
  that I feel like. Victory.
• 1:14:55
  I don't know. I don't know what I know.
• 1:14:57
  Pull it. That's I.
• 1:14:58
  Think they still make their I think Easton still makes that
• 1:15:02
  they used. To.
• 1:15:03
  They used to make a dangerous game axis.
• 1:15:06
  Another thing too that's interesting about draw about.
• 1:15:10
  Like a 150. Draw poundage is that typically
• 1:15:15
  a lot of men are shooting not even anywhere near 100% of the
• 1:15:22
  draw weight they can handle. That's like what she says all
• 1:15:24
  the time. She's like.
• 1:15:25
  And women are pulling like right at 100.
• 1:15:27
  Percent. She's like, I'm not.
• 1:15:28
  She's like, I'm at my ceiling and you're like, you got four
• 1:15:31
  more floors. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:15:33
  And that's not something we can even compare because what's hard
• 1:15:38
  is I don't know that he's really found the poundage that it's
• 1:15:42
  like, I'll take my hunting bow and it's like I can get it back.
• 1:15:45
  I can get it back. We go another half turn and I
• 1:15:47
  literally can't pull it. And it's like, OK, back the
• 1:15:50
  half. And now I need to figure out how
• 1:15:52
  to make that work. And like, they're nowhere near
• 1:15:55
  that. And so even for tournaments, I
• 1:15:58
  turn it down. Like I could shoot closer to 60,
• 1:16:00
  but I shoot like 5354. So I'm not at my Max.
• 1:16:04
  But when we talk about why the men outshoot the women, that is
• 1:16:08
  a factor that no one talks about, no one considers.
• 1:16:11
  And I think it's fucking huge. Like on our bodies, the wear and
• 1:16:15
  tear, trying to aim and hold up a bow and do all these things
• 1:16:18
  over and over over. Like the guys would struggle I
• 1:16:21
  think if they were actually at that percentage of their Max.
• 1:16:25
  And just think about like when you say wear and tear, like
• 1:16:28
  we're talking about how like, you know, a man can get a 90 LB
• 1:16:32
  bow, but like, do they really need the 90 LB bow?
• 1:16:34
  Like and your body sustain that 90 LB bow for how many years can
• 1:16:39
  it sustain that 90 LB boat? But I'm doing that every single
• 1:16:44
  time I shoot my bow. You know, like he shoots a 70 LB
• 1:16:49
  bow and then goes and picks up an 85 LB bow and put that's 15
• 1:16:53
  lbs. I couldn't turn a half a pound
• 1:16:55
  when I'm maxed out. I could turn a half a pound more
• 1:16:58
  in my bow without going like this.
• 1:17:00
  Literally like 1 inch and the bow won't move.
• 1:17:04
  You know, So like you think, you talk about wear and tear and you
• 1:17:07
  think like, Oh my God, 9 lbs. Like what are you going to do to
• 1:17:10
  your shoulder? I'm like, bitch, I'm doing that
• 1:17:12
  every. Time.
• 1:17:13
  I know that's one of the like, I wish that more people had that
• 1:17:17
  this exact discussion because I think it is such a big
• 1:17:20
  difference and no one really talks about what's that one?
• 1:17:23
  This one is just sweet tea, so. It's mixing it up.
• 1:17:27
  This one's called Sweet Reaper. There you go.
• 1:17:29
  So no, no tea in the. Now unfortunately, how?
• 1:17:33
  Or no lemonade. Each one of those cans.
• 1:17:36
  How much water? Dinero's They're a dollar.
• 1:17:39
  That's not bad. Not.
• 1:17:40
  Bad at all? Oh, it's not bad, Yeah, I feel.
• 1:17:42
  Like those are like $3 at the gas station probably.
• 1:17:46
  Oh yeah. Walmart.
• 1:17:46
  So is this. Walmart.
• 1:17:48
  Tell tell us a little bit about the the mental programming your
• 1:17:52
  your new program that I have done a couple of the sessions,
• 1:17:56
  but I know you do courses with it and stuff you're going.
• 1:17:58
  To commit. I am.
• 1:18:00
  I am but. Going to make.
• 1:18:01
  Them tell me what it entails because because I know you do
• 1:18:04
  the you were saying like like a chat as well type thing like
• 1:18:09
  what is that? So basically it's a subscription
• 1:18:12
  and with the subscription you get in for a year and then you
• 1:18:15
  get your first audio recording. So it is subconscious mental
• 1:18:19
  reprogramming. And so essentially when you
• 1:18:23
  shoot a bow, you have a conscious mind and a
• 1:18:25
  subconscious mind. So your conscious mind is what
• 1:18:27
  you think. Like man, I'm thirsty.
• 1:18:28
  I really want to drink a water. Holy shit, the wind is blowing.
• 1:18:31
  Like those are conscious mind thoughts when you walk, when you
• 1:18:35
  breathe, when you drive a car, Like there's so many things that
• 1:18:39
  you do that all of a sudden just become subconscious.
• 1:18:41
  It's a pattern and it's repetition.
• 1:18:43
  That's the strongest part of her brain.
• 1:18:45
  Subconscious is like 85 to 90% of your brain.
• 1:18:47
  And so that's what most athletes, depending on the
• 1:18:50
  sport, are using, and archery is one of those sports.
• 1:18:52
  So I'm able to Netflix and dry. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:18:56
  I do that too and they shame me. But essentially a lot of
• 1:19:01
  people's problems are deeper than the conscious mind.
• 1:19:04
  And right now in archery, everyone's only talking
• 1:19:06
  conscious. Well, anyone who is went to like
• 1:19:10
  a sports psychologist or done much mental training has had
• 1:19:14
  experience with this stuff before.
• 1:19:15
  So essentially what my stuff is, is audio recordings.
• 1:19:19
  All the people have to do is just sit down, relax and listen.
• 1:19:21
  Or they can listen while they're practicing, while they're
• 1:19:23
  driving, whatever to the body only option.
• 1:19:25
  So it doesn't have a little sleepy intro with it, but it's
• 1:19:28
  essentially building up your subconscious minds like the
• 1:19:31
  building block issues that you have that are deep we fix.
• 1:19:35
  So a really easy one would be confidence and self-image.
• 1:19:39
  Like there's so many people out there who don't view themselves
• 1:19:42
  as good as successful. Like just you're saying like I
• 1:19:45
  know I'm good. People are so like down on
• 1:19:49
  themselves in today's world. Like there it's kind of sad, but
• 1:19:53
  like everyone's self in which is like not good, right?
• 1:19:57
  And so just building that up to where you truly believe in
• 1:20:00
  yourself, you truly think you're deserving and that you're
• 1:20:03
  capable and that you have the skill and the ability.
• 1:20:06
  Like that is something that you can't just teach and you can't
• 1:20:10
  just confidence, like will it into your conscious mind.
• 1:20:13
  But we can when we use the subconscious.
• 1:20:15
  So it's a completely different way of thinking to where you're
• 1:20:19
  not actually thinking. So like 1 cool thing.
• 1:20:21
  I mean, people have been telling me how much.
• 1:20:23
  Success they've had with it and they're like, I didn't think
• 1:20:26
  different and I didn't feel different, but I was just
• 1:20:28
  better. It's like, yeah, if you're
• 1:20:30
  thinking different, that's your conscious mind.
• 1:20:32
  Like I'm working deeper than that.
• 1:20:33
  So it is just easier and better because you are better.
• 1:20:37
  And so I stumbled upon this through like years of mental
• 1:20:40
  training and I kind of accidentally just, this
• 1:20:42
  happened, this happened and I finally got there, but I've been
• 1:20:45
  sitting on it for a few years. And I was like, you know what?
• 1:20:47
  Like this is something that I know will help people.
• 1:20:49
  Like this is really what they need.
• 1:20:51
  And archery's a sport that's so mental.
• 1:20:53
  Like how many people when no one's watching and the cameras
• 1:20:56
  aren't on, can stand in their backyard and just pound.
• 1:20:58
  You turn a camera on and do what we just did.
• 1:21:00
  And then seven start popping up or you put a deer in front of
• 1:21:03
  them. 7 is now. I know it's not.
• 1:21:05
  I know I love it. I love it.
• 1:21:07
  We already said take shot the wall, right?
• 1:21:08
  Like it? I shot I shot A0 for $10,000 in
• 1:21:13
  the car shoot off back in the day as well.
• 1:21:15
  So. Yeah, we've all done it.
• 1:21:17
  Yeah. And we'll do it.
• 1:21:17
  We'll do it again. We're human, right?
• 1:21:20
  But the idea is let's let that happen less instead of it happen
• 1:21:23
  more. So another thing where it works,
• 1:21:26
  and this is what I want you to commit to is score.
• 1:21:29
  So your subconscious mind has a comfort zone.
• 1:21:31
  It's like really happy staying in that comfort zone.
• 1:21:34
  And so a lot of times if you have an average score, you start
• 1:21:37
  really great and you're like, I'm going to crush it.
• 1:21:39
  And then you fall off at the end or you start really bad and
• 1:21:41
  you're like, this is going to be horrible.
• 1:21:42
  And then all of a sudden it's really great and you land around
• 1:21:45
  that average. The reason you have an average
• 1:21:47
  is because of your subconscious mind.
• 1:21:48
  So this isn't like a me thing, like go Google it.
• 1:21:50
  You can Fact Check me. This is just your brain and
• 1:21:52
  science. This isn't coming from me,
• 1:21:54
  right? People way smarter than me and
• 1:21:56
  figure this out. And so using that subconscious
• 1:21:59
  reprogramming the audio recordings, you can train your
• 1:22:02
  subconscious to have a new comfort zone that you haven't
• 1:22:05
  even actually achieved yet. So two of the recordings, I just
• 1:22:08
  launched my first two score based ones.
• 1:22:09
  So it's shoot a 300 or shoot A330X.
• 1:22:13
  So obviously two different skill levels of people.
• 1:22:15
  But with that, it's like you hadn't shot a 300 before
• 1:22:19
  yesterday, right? And so now that you've done it,
• 1:22:23
  you're going to tell yourself, I know I can do it.
• 1:22:25
  I know I can do this because I've done it, but it's like, OK,
• 1:22:29
  can you do it every time? Do you believe every time you
• 1:22:31
  shoot your bow, you're going to, you're going to shoot one?
• 1:22:32
  Do you expect to shoot 1? So all of that type wording and
• 1:22:36
  all those things are in there because there's times where it's
• 1:22:39
  not your conscious mind failing, It's not your shot execution
• 1:22:42
  failing. You are your aim.
• 1:22:43
  It's truly your subconscious mind getting in your way and
• 1:22:46
  holding you back. And it's harder to feel when
• 1:22:48
  that's happening and there's really nothing you can do.
• 1:22:51
  Like if you're if you're nervous and shaking and freaking the ass
• 1:22:54
  out, you can use conscious mind distraction tools to get through
• 1:22:57
  that moment and you can still win the day when the arrow do
• 1:23:00
  what you got to do if it's your conscious mind failing.
• 1:23:02
  But if your subconscious mind is failing you, there is no beating
• 1:23:06
  it. So that's something you have to
• 1:23:07
  train outside. That's what this program does.
• 1:23:10
  So it's going to be pretty cool because everyone's just now
• 1:23:13
  going to see kind of what you can do with the score based ones
• 1:23:16
  and it works faster and better than probably anything else.
• 1:23:18
  So that one's going to be pretty cool.
• 1:23:20
  But with the membership, they get the recordings all that's
• 1:23:22
  and there's a bunch of different recording so people could listen
• 1:23:24
  to different ones depending on what they want to work on.
• 1:23:27
  But then we also do some lives with the membership.
• 1:23:29
  So I'm doing about two a month right now.
• 1:23:31
  And so we go in and just have honest open discussions.
• 1:23:34
  It would honestly be like, this is how I envision everybody
• 1:23:37
  right on screen. But it's like, what do you have
• 1:23:40
  coming up next? Like what are your problems or
• 1:23:42
  what questions do you have? And like, what's cool about
• 1:23:45
  archery is I don't give a shit if I'm a pro world champion,
• 1:23:49
  this that the other doesn't matter.
• 1:23:51
  I won't always have the answer in the fix for everybody because
• 1:23:54
  we're different, our bodies are different, our minds are
• 1:23:56
  different. But when you get a pretty decent
• 1:23:58
  sized group of people together that you can bounce stuff off
• 1:24:01
  of, it's nice to be able to hear like, hey, I tried what they
• 1:24:04
  suggested. It didn't work, but this worked
• 1:24:06
  for me and maybe that's their fix.
• 1:24:08
  So I wanted to create a community where people could
• 1:24:11
  basically get help, get the information they need, have
• 1:24:15
  somewhere with reliable information because there is so
• 1:24:18
  much, there's a lot of good, but there's a lot of really bad info
• 1:24:21
  out there on the Internet, right?
• 1:24:22
  And so I just wanted to build something where people felt
• 1:24:24
  comfortable, felt safe, built friends within archery, and then
• 1:24:28
  had somewhere to go to basically get help.
• 1:24:31
  And so there's going to be more stuff coming with the membership
• 1:24:33
  as well. But for now, I just wanted to
• 1:24:34
  make sure we offered that extra. And then I'm recording those so
• 1:24:37
  people miss the lives like they're in their account.
• 1:24:39
  They can go back and watch them, still have access to those
• 1:24:41
  forever. They're going to get some behind
• 1:24:43
  the scenes social media content that I won't post to the masses
• 1:24:47
  because the masses are assholes. We've established that, right?
• 1:24:49
  So stuff I can't normally share, I'll share in there.
• 1:24:52
  But the main basis of it was I want to help people with the
• 1:24:55
  mental game. Like that's where this stemmed
• 1:24:57
  from. But it's like, OK, now how can I
• 1:24:59
  elevate that and help them more than just that?
• 1:25:02
  So that's kind of what what I've been working on and it's been
• 1:25:05
  fun. It grew way faster than I ever
• 1:25:07
  thought it would. So that's it's taken a lot more
• 1:25:10
  of my time than I expected, but it's good.
• 1:25:13
  I waited until I was ready. So now that I'm, I'm willing to
• 1:25:17
  like donate more time to that, dedicate more time.
• 1:25:19
  Isn't it like the most rewarding feeling to like launching
• 1:25:23
  something that you've worked on for a really long time and you
• 1:25:26
  never know when it's actually like going to get to the finish
• 1:25:29
  line and people are actually going to be able to use it and
• 1:25:31
  benefit it. And then when it's finally out
• 1:25:33
  there, it's like the coolest feeling.
• 1:25:35
  Yeah, And you're kind of nervous too, because I was like, OK, are
• 1:25:39
  people going to believe it? Are they going to trust it?
• 1:25:41
  Are they going to actually do it?
• 1:25:42
  And my worst fear wasn't that it didn't do well.
• 1:25:46
  It was that people would, like, buy it, listen once, and then it
• 1:25:50
  didn't work. And so I've been like super open
• 1:25:53
  and honest that like, it's the repetition that makes a
• 1:25:56
  difference. Like you listen once or twice,
• 1:25:58
  don't expect anything to change, OK, like.
• 1:26:01
  It's just like a gym. One time this week.
• 1:26:04
  Why can't I pull 16 pack? Why don't I have a six pack?
• 1:26:07
  I don't understand mental training is just as much about
• 1:26:11
  consistency as the physical training.
• 1:26:13
  But a lot of people don't know how to mental train properly.
• 1:26:16
  They don't understand the different parts of their mind or
• 1:26:18
  how it works. And so essentially, like I spent
• 1:26:21
  years researching this and paying large amounts of money to
• 1:26:25
  do like in person trainings with all sorts of people with
• 1:26:28
  different letters after their name and their descriptions and
• 1:26:31
  all that stuff, right? Who specialized in that stuff to
• 1:26:33
  like, understand and learn to put this product out now.
• 1:26:37
  But I just really want people to know it's literally as easy as
• 1:26:41
  sit down, put some headphones in and chill for 20 minutes or lay
• 1:26:46
  down like you're going to sleep and hit play.
• 1:26:48
  And even if you fall asleep, it's still working because it's
• 1:26:50
  your subconscious, not your conscious.
• 1:26:51
  But it's all about repetition. And so I didn't know how fast
• 1:26:56
  people were going to see results.
• 1:26:58
  And for myself, the fastest I can truly say, OK, it was an
• 1:27:02
  absolute measurable difference was like a month and, and I'd
• 1:27:06
  listen for a month to I used to change my recordings based off
• 1:27:08
  what I needed. And it was like, I was a whole
• 1:27:11
  different person one month later than the month before.
• 1:27:13
  And that's all I'd changed. It was like mind blowing to me.
• 1:27:15
  And that's when I knew like I should, I should make this a
• 1:27:17
  business. Like that's insane.
• 1:27:19
  What's interesting to me now is that so many Archers are pretty
• 1:27:24
  damn good, but they've done absolutely zero mental training,
• 1:27:27
  like no mental work. So they're starting at true
• 1:27:31
  ground level. And so I've had people listen
• 1:27:33
  for like a week and then break their PBS and go do stuff in
• 1:27:38
  tournaments they've never done and like break records.
• 1:27:40
  It's like blowing my mind how fast people are actually seeing
• 1:27:43
  results. And every time I'm like, that's
• 1:27:45
  insane, That's so cool. But like, keep listening because
• 1:27:49
  if that's what you're seeing in a week, like a month, two months
• 1:27:51
  from now, it'll blow your fucking mind because I wouldn't
• 1:27:54
  expect them to see results that quick.
• 1:27:56
  But they have a lot of weak links because they haven't done
• 1:28:01
  the mental training. Like when you start here, right?
• 1:28:03
  There's a lot of things we can work on.
• 1:28:05
  If you're starting here, it's going to take a little bit more
• 1:28:07
  time. Just like scoring, right?
• 1:28:09
  Like if you're shooting two 60s, it's easy to pick up five
• 1:28:12
  points. Well, with you are, there's only
• 1:28:14
  five points to pick up, like picking up that last one or two
• 1:28:17
  is really hard. The mental games very similar to
• 1:28:19
  that. And so it's been so interesting.
• 1:28:22
  But every single day, I haven't actually checked messages today
• 1:28:24
  because we've been busy, but every day I open my phone and I
• 1:28:27
  like read messages and it's like, I don't understand how or
• 1:28:30
  why, but like, Oh my God, thank you so much.
• 1:28:32
  And I just did this, like fill in the blank.
• 1:28:34
  And it's been really cool. Even at tournaments.
• 1:28:38
  We just shot the Rushmore Rumble not that long ago.
• 1:28:40
  And two boys that I have listening to the program, both
• 1:28:44
  shot 9 hundreds that weekend. Yeah, like one of their parents
• 1:28:47
  came up and was like, this changed his life.
• 1:28:50
  Like, this is incredible and like, I can't thank you enough.
• 1:28:53
  And it's just the coolest feeling.
• 1:28:55
  Like I love helping people and I love teaching.
• 1:28:57
  And so I probably like that stuff more now than, like,
• 1:29:00
  shooting. So I'm also have seminars, like
• 1:29:02
  on the website, shops can book whatever.
• 1:29:04
  I did a bunch of those this fall, and I love doing those.
• 1:29:06
  Like, to me, this side of it is where I would like to be able to
• 1:29:10
  spend more time now. Like, man, I've competed a long
• 1:29:13
  time. I still love that.
• 1:29:14
  But I'm enjoying doing some other stuff, mixing it up as
• 1:29:17
  well. But it's really rewarding to
• 1:29:21
  hear the success stories like that makes it worth it.
• 1:29:24
  Like I get a little stressed or I'm like, oh man, I got to get
• 1:29:27
  this edited and I'm up late, or I'm trying to go to a tournament
• 1:29:31
  and I'm up there until I go to the airport.
• 1:29:33
  Like trying to get these recorded so I can edit while I'm
• 1:29:35
  gone. And like, they're stressful
• 1:29:37
  moments. But then you read that stuff and
• 1:29:39
  you're like, that's cool shit. Like it was worth it.
• 1:29:42
  Definitely, Yeah, that's awesome.
• 1:29:45
  I loved it. Like I said, I've done a couple.
• 1:29:46
  I am going to do those 300. I'm going to listen to 30X1
• 1:29:51
  baby. That's that's where I'm going.
• 1:29:52
  You're probably only going to need the 301 for like such a
• 1:29:55
  short while and then you're going to be straight to the 30X
• 1:29:58
  your X count. Start with like a week of the
• 1:30:00
  300 with daily visits to performance for our shooting but
• 1:30:07
  manager says 300 first for at least a.
• 1:30:09
  Week. So we're going to do that, and
• 1:30:11
  then we're going to jump up and then.
• 1:30:13
  Yeah. So Tate, you've had a long time
• 1:30:15
  to think, buddy. Do you have?
• 1:30:17
  An answer I was just letting I've actually I got, I got a
• 1:30:20
  couple. I was just letting it come back
• 1:30:21
  naturally. All right.
• 1:30:22
  I didn't want to like blurt in in the middle.
• 1:30:25
  Yeah, yeah, I didn't. I didn't feel like his hands up
• 1:30:28
  now. Yeah, it's because.
• 1:30:29
  He wanted that. Yeah, there it is.
• 1:30:31
  Yes, Tate. OK.
• 1:30:34
  I think just with all the different archery organizations
• 1:30:41
  within, like there's NFA, there's IBO, there's ASA,
• 1:30:44
  there's USA World Archery, there's the people who like to
• 1:30:50
  go shoot their bows for tack, the recreationalists, like just
• 1:30:53
  people in general, right? Like kind of we've already kind
• 1:30:56
  of touched topic on this where it's like there's so much
• 1:30:59
  division with inside of Archer. We're all trying to do the same
• 1:31:03
  thing. And it's like what we said, like
• 1:31:05
  that's what's so cool about what you guys do is you bring archery
• 1:31:08
  to a new group of people that would have otherwise never seen
• 1:31:11
  or experienced archery. But yet everybody with inside of
• 1:31:15
  archery talks so much shit on everybody.
• 1:31:19
  That is like trying to like break the mold and do new stuff.
• 1:31:22
  And like, who cares if you want to go shoot your bow on the
• 1:31:25
  weekend? All you want to do is go shoot
• 1:31:26
  tax, Totally fine, right? You want to go shoot in the pro
• 1:31:29
  classes in Vegas or you want to go shoot 3D and you want to go
• 1:31:33
  shoot feeder or do what whatever, right?
• 1:31:35
  Like everybody's trying to do the same thing.
• 1:31:37
  And there's all these and it's partly the people that run the
• 1:31:40
  organization's faults too, because they all want their
• 1:31:44
  organization to be the biggest and best.
• 1:31:45
  And they're like unwilling to work and grow and like allow
• 1:31:49
  everything archery to grow is 1. They want their piece of like,
• 1:31:53
  archery to be the biggest. Yeah.
• 1:31:55
  And I think like, that's like kind of with hunting too.
• 1:31:57
  Like we're our own worst enemies, right?
• 1:32:00
  There's so many different regulations that are trying to
• 1:32:02
  get passed on a daily basis where they're trying to limit us
• 1:32:05
  more and take more things away from us.
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  And then, yeah, we're the first people to go on and talk shit
• 1:32:12
  about other people that do it differently than the way we do
• 1:32:15
  it, right? So it's like, rather than just
• 1:32:17
  supporting everybody that does the same thing we do, we're all
• 1:32:21
  like at each other's throats because if someone's doing
• 1:32:25
  something different, then someone else would perceive it
• 1:32:29
  the correct way to do it. I think a good quote is that a
• 1:32:33
  rising tide raises all ships. I think if you think of stuff
• 1:32:37
  that way that's deep, then it's like, well, I do because like in
• 1:32:42
  YouTube, it happens all the time, right?
• 1:32:44
  People want to be the biggest channel and they think if that
• 1:32:46
  guy grows, I can't grow. That's actually so stupid.
• 1:32:50
  It's the opposite. The more bigger channels or
• 1:32:54
  creators there are in archery, all that does is help archery
• 1:32:59
  and all the creators get bigger because more people are
• 1:33:02
  interested in it. It's the exact same thing.
• 1:33:05
  If ASA does great, it's probably going to help IBO get better
• 1:33:09
  too. If they are bigger too, all of
• 1:33:12
  them grow. That's only good.
• 1:33:14
  It's going to raise the whole ship.
• 1:33:16
  And you know, tack for a long time people, so many people got
• 1:33:19
  made fun of for going. All those people were flat
• 1:33:21
  bills, sick gear and blah blah blah.
• 1:33:23
  It's like a lot. Of tournaments and everyone
• 1:33:25
  would talk shit. And it's like, well guess what?
• 1:33:27
  They have 6000 people showing up on a weekend to Pennsylvania,
• 1:33:31
  all by an archery. ASA shoot or whatever.
• 1:33:34
  They're not bringing 6000, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:33:36
  Like, and that's there's twelve of them a year, right?
• 1:33:39
  That's great for the sport. So I think to your point, the
• 1:33:41
  more people can work together, whether it's in hunting or
• 1:33:44
  archery as a whole, the more the more it grows.
• 1:33:47
  That just helps everybody. It helps the businesses, it
• 1:33:50
  helps the the professionals like it helps the athletes, it helps
• 1:33:53
  everybody, the creators. You know what I'm?
• 1:33:55
  Saying helps the companies, it helps your archery shops.
• 1:33:58
  Like everything that we can do to try to help grow archery as a
• 1:34:01
  whole. Everybody with inside of archery
• 1:34:03
  is going to benefit from it. Exactly.
• 1:34:05
  So you said he had a couple, What's what's the other one?
• 1:34:07
  I would say the next one is the FOC.
• 1:34:12
  OK, I love this one. All right, hit me with it, dude.
• 1:34:16
  It's the dumbest thing ever really.
• 1:34:17
  Like why I I just, I don't understand why people get so
• 1:34:22
  caught up in it or people, it seems like some people are more
• 1:34:25
  caught up in how they're going to build their damn arrow for
• 1:34:29
  the possibility of a bad shot. And they're like, well, I got to
• 1:34:33
  have it built for this. In case it's like you're already
• 1:34:35
  thinking of doing that. Like you're already putting that
• 1:34:38
  you're already manifesting. You're going to shoot them bad,
• 1:34:41
  right? Like you don't need 1000 Green
• 1:34:44
  Arrow or you're doing hunting T rexes in the Smithsonian like.
• 1:34:48
  Fuck. Yeah, like where you're hunting
• 1:34:51
  normal 4 legged critters here they don't have armor plating
• 1:34:55
  like. Other than turkeys.
• 1:34:56
  Other than turkeys, in Brianna's case, they bounce.
• 1:35:00
  That's. Exactly right, though it because
• 1:35:02
  we just talked about this yesterday with with Greg and
• 1:35:07
  and, you know, creating your guys's level and expertise of
• 1:35:11
  like knowledge and arrow building is on a whole nother
• 1:35:15
  level, but they're they're little things that you don't
• 1:35:18
  know until you know. And then once you know, it's
• 1:35:21
  like, oh, it's a, it's. Like the aha moment?
• 1:35:25
  But to dig into like I watch what just watching Greg do, it
• 1:35:29
  was like he's like weighing there, weighing A vein, throwing
• 1:35:32
  to the side and be like, OK, Yep, Yep, Yep.
• 1:35:34
  He goes 2 oz different. Don't give a shit.
• 1:35:37
  That's fine. And I'm like, you see these you
• 1:35:40
  I watch because I got into this whole like I want to start
• 1:35:42
  experimenting with building my own arrows and watching videos.
• 1:35:44
  What not. I'm sitting there like 100 veins
• 1:35:47
  deep in like the variances of, you know, a half a grain to 1
• 1:35:52
  grain and separating them to like make sure you know, these
• 1:35:56
  are all the 4 1/2 grains. These are the five grains.
• 1:35:59
  This is the 6th grain. That's whoa, that's way out
• 1:36:01
  compared to this 4 1/2. And it's like, it's a fucking
• 1:36:05
  grain. Like I could pick up a piece of
• 1:36:08
  rice and it weighs more and, you know, a variation weight than
• 1:36:12
  those two. They can't.
• 1:36:13
  Even see that out of a hooter shooter at distance.
• 1:36:15
  Yep. And so I sat there and I, I was
• 1:36:19
  like, all right, let me get a fucking piece of paper out and
• 1:36:21
  start writing this down with only two different types of
• 1:36:24
  arrows I built. And I didn't even build all the
• 1:36:27
  different variations with the the pieces and parts that I had.
• 1:36:30
  I had over 12 variations of ways that I could build these fucking
• 1:36:35
  arrows all within a wellly respectable FOC.
• 1:36:42
  And I was like how the fuck do you know which one to pick?
• 1:36:46
  I was like I I call my sisters like I don't know what to do
• 1:36:50
  now. Now I'm literally stuck in
• 1:36:51
  paralysis by analysis because I have now written down 12
• 1:36:55
  different ways I can build 2 fucking arrows.
• 1:36:59
  All of them by maps. You know, theory say they should
• 1:37:04
  shoot just fine. So how am I supposed to know
• 1:37:06
  which one to pick? Am I supposed to build 3 arrows
• 1:37:09
  of each variation and have over 100 different arrows to go test
• 1:37:13
  to decide which one properly flew the best?
• 1:37:18
  All because I decided to figure out FOC.
• 1:37:20
  I was like, this was the IT was all based around the FOC.
• 1:37:24
  All of it was based around the percentage of FOC.
• 1:37:27
  And with the weight out the front verse adding and it was
• 1:37:30
  like the weight of the insert verse adding weights on the, the
• 1:37:34
  back weights. And you know, I'm like, or the
• 1:37:37
  the insert just weighs the same as me sitting there screwing in
• 1:37:40
  back weights. Like I was like, this is nuts.
• 1:37:44
  Here's how simple I think it. Should be you pick your arrow
• 1:37:48
  based off of what One, your spine is obviously that you
• 1:37:51
  need, but two, like what are you going to be doing, honey?
• 1:37:53
  Anything normal in North America?
• 1:37:55
  Pick whatever arrow the heck you want to pick.
• 1:37:57
  It doesn't matter. We're not talking Cape Buffalo,
• 1:37:59
  we're not talking draft. We're talking normal stuff,
• 1:38:01
  right? Put whatever knocking it you
• 1:38:03
  want, put whatever veins on it you think you're going to
• 1:38:05
  stabilize. I shoot 100 grain broadhead for
• 1:38:07
  absolutely everything because it's really easy if something
• 1:38:09
  goes wrong to get 100 grain broadheads.
• 1:38:11
  The only variance that I sometimes have decisions on,
• 1:38:15
  sometimes I don't depend on the arrow I'm shooting is the insert
• 1:38:18
  outsert half out, whatever that piece is going to be like
• 1:38:22
  Easton, they made a 55 grain and a 75 grain that I could pick
• 1:38:25
  between. So I had my arrow, I had my
• 1:38:27
  veins, I had my knock. I knew I was shooting 100 grain
• 1:38:29
  broadhead and I went OK, if I pick the 55 grains, my arrows
• 1:38:33
  going to weigh 370 ish. If I pick the 75 grains, it's
• 1:38:39
  going to weigh 390. I want to be more like 390.
• 1:38:43
  I'm picking that one done. I didn't pick it off FOC.
• 1:38:46
  I picked it off total air weight.
• 1:38:47
  I had two options. I picked the one that made the
• 1:38:49
  most sense. So I never math that out.
• 1:38:51
  I never have. I never will.
• 1:38:53
  Like it should be. It should be that easy.
• 1:38:57
  Like, yeah, that is sure. I have to have.
• 1:38:59
  A country having done that whole experience, I've shot like.
• 1:39:02
  Everywhere from. Don't even say a percent because
• 1:39:06
  that means you would have calculated it and I know you
• 1:39:08
  didn't. I'm not saying a percent.
• 1:39:10
  I've shot anywhere from a 75 grand insert to a standard
• 1:39:13
  insert. That's like 11 grains, right?
• 1:39:17
  And the main animal that I've haunted for my whole life, you
• 1:39:23
  know, is always been elk because that's like I grew up hunting
• 1:39:25
  elk and it's like a disease. Once you start you can't quit,
• 1:39:30
  you know, and I've killed more of my bulls with standard axis
• 1:39:38
  with a stand like a standard insert.
• 1:39:41
  My arrow was cut to 26 1/2 inches.
• 1:39:43
  I ran 3 blazer veins back in the day, a standard knock and they
• 1:39:47
  weigh 396 grains and I've killed more elk with a sub 400 grain
• 1:39:53
  arrow than I have ever since. I've been shooting like a 430
• 1:39:58
  ish 440 ish grain arrow that I shoot now because I shoot a 5055
• 1:40:03
  to 60 grain insert up front with 100 grain broadhead now.
• 1:40:06
  And I've had I've killed more of them with a lighter and I've
• 1:40:09
  actually had more pastors with a lighter arrow than I have the
• 1:40:13
  heavier arrows. So it's like there, there's a
• 1:40:16
  point like I think FOC is like definitely beneficial if you're
• 1:40:22
  a recurve shooter or like a tradition, like a trad guy,
• 1:40:26
  because the more what you have up front, the more it will help
• 1:40:29
  negate your back, your back end release.
• 1:40:31
  Like if you release bad, you have a bad finger release.
• 1:40:34
  It helps pull the back end around the front of the arrow
• 1:40:36
  straighter. It's harder to get the front end
• 1:40:37
  off, but you get a like a compound bow.
• 1:40:40
  Like you're shooting a mechanical release.
• 1:40:43
  Everything is off with let off. Like it's easier to hold
• 1:40:45
  everything like that. Your shots are way more
• 1:40:46
  consistent. The bow is going to do what it's
• 1:40:49
  going to do. The arrow is going to do what
• 1:40:50
  it's going to do. Like people dive way and they're
• 1:40:56
  trying to build these thousand green arrows to go shoot elk and
• 1:41:00
  it's like I got to have a 650 grand arrow to go shoot out.
• 1:41:03
  Like, yeah, I was talking to a guy the other night on the phone
• 1:41:06
  and a guy I know and he called me.
• 1:41:08
  He's like, hey, my buddy's getting ready to go on a grizzly
• 1:41:11
  bear hunt. And I'm like, OK, that's cool.
• 1:41:14
  He's like, what what what should he do for arrows?
• 1:41:15
  I'm like arrows, just what's he shoot normally?
• 1:41:18
  Like shoot your normal arrow, right?
• 1:41:20
  Like they're they're soft. They're not like they're a big
• 1:41:25
  dance. Like it's a bear.
• 1:41:27
  It's just a bigger version of a BlackBerry.
• 1:41:29
  I mean, they're just a fluffy. They're pretty soft.
• 1:41:31
  You know what I mean? It's you'll be fine.
• 1:41:33
  Shoot, if you want to be do anything different, just shoot a
• 1:41:35
  small little bit smaller broadhead.
• 1:41:36
  Maybe you'll get better penetration from that, but I
• 1:41:38
  wouldn't go anything crazy. He's like, I need to build like
• 1:41:40
  a 750 grand arrow. I'm like you.
• 1:41:42
  Got to climb on its back. No, you don't like.
• 1:41:45
  Yeah, it's. Not to mention with the arrow
• 1:41:48
  thing, you know, like we talked about earlier, most of the time
• 1:41:52
  a bad shot happens in archery, it's because either the shooter
• 1:41:55
  made a bad shot or the animal reacted before the arrow got
• 1:41:58
  there. And the best way to shorten the
• 1:42:01
  period of the arrow getting to it is to have it be faster.
• 1:42:04
  And a lighter arrow is going to get there faster, which means
• 1:42:07
  the animals are going to react less, which means there's a
• 1:42:09
  higher probability that you don't hit it poorly.
• 1:42:12
  So I think there's a lot of I think.
• 1:42:15
  There's something to be said about like I like my arrow
• 1:42:18
  weight and bow speed. I have like 2 numbers that are
• 1:42:22
  like important to me. Which are.
• 1:42:25
  I like to be somewhere around 300 foot a second, like
• 1:42:28
  somewhere 295 to 300 is like my, my, my foot per second, right?
• 1:42:32
  That's like my range. And then my arrow weight range
• 1:42:35
  is anywhere from like 4:20 to 4:40.
• 1:42:40
  Like somewhere in those two numbers spreads.
• 1:42:43
  Like that's where my arrow build and poundage and like speed is
• 1:42:46
  going to lie on every single hunt and bow.
• 1:42:48
  Just to be honest though, if you start to math everything out,
• 1:42:51
  you take any normal compound arrow from any of the major
• 1:42:55
  companies, throw 100 gram broadhead with whatever outsert
• 1:42:58
  they have made for that arrow. It's fine.
• 1:43:01
  Truly it's fine. And so all that extra thought
• 1:43:05
  and all these other options and stuff, it'd be different if the
• 1:43:08
  arrows weighed a ton different or they're designed, you know
• 1:43:11
  whatever. But realistically, you buy
• 1:43:12
  anything normal in today's market, you use the products
• 1:43:15
  they designed for it. Screw 100 grain to 125 grain.
• 1:43:18
  If you really care that much brought into the front of it,
• 1:43:21
  it's good you're. Good to go.
• 1:43:22
  Yeah, there's not much more that needs to go into it.
• 1:43:24
  Like the two, the two important parts, which we've we've covered
• 1:43:29
  in this this podcast and James's last two days with Greg is shoot
• 1:43:36
  your bone off that you are good enough and tune your bow well
• 1:43:40
  enough that in, you know, the instance that you do make a
• 1:43:44
  little flinch, it's as forgiving as it can and accurate as it can
• 1:43:48
  possibly be. If you can do those two things.
• 1:43:52
  The market is so good now that it doesn't.
• 1:43:55
  I mean, they send it to you with inserts.
• 1:43:57
  You know, they said like it comes with a knock.
• 1:44:01
  They're not going to send you something that's not meant to be
• 1:44:03
  fit on the bow. They're on the arrow.
• 1:44:05
  So just put what's given together, but do the other two
• 1:44:10
  things. You know, like we saw that if
• 1:44:12
  you go back and watch the videos when they come out of just the
• 1:44:15
  tuning. Now, granted we did change his
• 1:44:17
  fletches, but in that, you know, that can be important to a lot
• 1:44:20
  of people, whether it's because of the sound or or do you want
• 1:44:22
  to stabilize that arrow faster or whatever.
• 1:44:25
  But you go and do the stuff that he did in those videos, which
• 1:44:31
  had nothing to do with like you need a better quality this and
• 1:44:34
  that. And it came with these
• 1:44:36
  outskirts, but we're going to change them to this special
• 1:44:39
  third party brand had nothing to do with any of that.
• 1:44:45
  It was all about tuning the bow and making sure it was forgiving
• 1:44:50
  and accurate. And that paired with him
• 1:44:54
  shooting the bow more got him a 300, you know, like.
• 1:45:00
  So is is, is that, is that your two or you got anything else?
• 1:45:09
  We'll stick with two. We'll stick with two.
• 1:45:11
  Mine did you hear mine earlier? Mine was basically like bow
• 1:45:14
  hunter shit talking each other on the Internet and I just said
• 1:45:18
  I said in target archery you don't see much of that because
• 1:45:21
  one all the people at the top respect the people at the top.
• 1:45:24
  We know how hard it is to get there, right?
• 1:45:26
  But if the other people want to shit talk us, it's like we'll
• 1:45:29
  show up, shoot pro and let's see how you do.
• 1:45:31
  They can't really talk shit because there's actually a
• 1:45:32
  measure of metric on who's better hunting.
• 1:45:35
  That's not the case. And so I said into my branch,
• 1:45:37
  over into hunting stuff, I post a hunting video and you could be
• 1:45:40
  100% perfect. You could shoot at 20 yards or
• 1:45:43
  70 yards. It doesn't matter what you do.
• 1:45:45
  There's going to be some group of people out there who are
• 1:45:47
  criticizing you for something that you did.
• 1:45:48
  And I just said it's fucking stupid that no matter what you
• 1:45:51
  do, someone's going to be on there saying I could have shot
• 1:45:54
  it better, I could have got closer, I could have taken that
• 1:45:56
  like whatever it is, I would have waited for a different
• 1:45:58
  angle. Oh wow, this wouldn't happen to
• 1:46:00
  me. But I'm like, I wish the bow
• 1:46:02
  hunters would quit being so jealous and just be happy when
• 1:46:05
  someone else has success or like supportive if they don't have
• 1:46:07
  success. Like it doesn't hurt them in any
• 1:46:09
  way. And I've never seen a group of
• 1:46:11
  people like treat each other so poorly than bow hunters.
• 1:46:17
  It's just fucked and it makes me so mad.
• 1:46:19
  Like I did a whole rant like a 10 minute rant video after
• 1:46:24
  Canada and I honestly just got so sick of looking at the most
• 1:46:27
  stupid comments from stupid people I just quit looking back
• 1:46:31
  and I just said here's my rant video to call them out and then
• 1:46:34
  I don't have to look back again and I can move on and be done.
• 1:46:36
  Close the chapter. I do think.
• 1:46:38
  Moving on. One thing that would be very
• 1:46:40
  nice and I know like it's never going to happen, but I wish
• 1:46:45
  every single person putting out hunting like bow hunting
• 1:46:48
  content, regardless of how far the arrow is, how far the shot
• 1:46:52
  is, I could care less. I don't.
• 1:46:54
  Just please quit telling people how far you shoot animals at.
• 1:46:57
  I agree, Brianna's very bad at that.
• 1:46:58
  I absolutely. Hate that because your skill
• 1:47:03
  level, my skill level, someone like Levi Morgan, all or Cam or
• 1:47:08
  anybody, Josh Bomar, anything like that, right?
• 1:47:11
  Levi and Josh. Because I hate it.
• 1:47:13
  Because there's so many people go out there and they watch that
• 1:47:16
  video and they're like, Oh well, he shot it at 125 yards.
• 1:47:19
  I can do it the same thing. And it's like, no, you can't.
• 1:47:21
  Like, yeah, no, like, yeah, you can go shooting.
• 1:47:24
  You can go shoot a paper target at 120 yards, but you've killed
• 1:47:26
  2 animals in your life. One of them was a Turkey and the
• 1:47:29
  other one is a doe at 15 yards out of a tree stand.
• 1:47:32
  Turkey. So it's like, OK, now you get
• 1:47:35
  out into a different hunting situation and it's like just
• 1:47:38
  like, I guess my point is like the respect to the animal, like
• 1:47:41
  you're hunting as well. Because you watch someone do it
• 1:47:45
  on TV does not mean that you have the skills or the
• 1:47:48
  capability to go out and shoot the same animal at 120 yards.
• 1:47:52
  You're probably just going to end up wounding it.
• 1:47:55
  Unfortunately, that's the stupidity of the human.
• 1:47:57
  Role I know 100% I know but humans shouldn't be that stupid
• 1:48:00
  but we are. And the general population
• 1:48:03
  watching stuff on YouTube, it's like God just I don't care.
• 1:48:07
  I can tell the animal was 9500 yards away.
• 1:48:10
  Just don't tell people how far. Do not tell the Internet how far
• 1:48:14
  people you are I. Like I agree just how far the
• 1:48:17
  the level of shooters is so much different.
• 1:48:19
  And you know, we talked about Jim Burnworth or earlier from
• 1:48:23
  Western Extreme and I remember he did a video about sort of
• 1:48:27
  that, like how do you find your effective range and describing
• 1:48:31
  how for everybody, it's completely different for Levi
• 1:48:35
  Morgan and good weather conditions on certain terrain on
• 1:48:39
  a certain type of animal. It might be 125, but I'm first,
• 1:48:43
  I don't. Stretched it out there and I've
• 1:48:44
  shot some animals at a decent distance but like.
• 1:48:49
  You're also an shooter, a very good shooter, this guy's.
• 1:48:52
  Pounding those said animals. I'm definitely not writing in my
• 1:48:55
  post how far I shot Yeah, exactly.
• 1:48:58
  So I think that I agree with you that I think that's.
• 1:49:00
  Good. I disagree and here's why.
• 1:49:02
  I hate that people have to like dumb down their skill level
• 1:49:07
  because someone else might think they can do it.
• 1:49:09
  So like as an example, in rifle hunting, their shows for like
• 1:49:13
  long range, blah, blah, blah. And they're they're telling how
• 1:49:16
  far they're shooting animals at 1000 yards.
• 1:49:18
  They're doing all the calculations and all the
• 1:49:20
  whatever. And that'd be like saying those
• 1:49:22
  shows shouldn't exist because the average Deer Hunter is going
• 1:49:24
  to go think they can do it. It's like if they do, here's the
• 1:49:28
  ethics thing is where this comes into play.
• 1:49:30
  And I'm like whether Levi Morgan or Paige Pierce or Tate, Morgan
• 1:49:34
  says. I shot an animal at 100 yards.
• 1:49:37
  If whoever that person is is going to go take a shot at 100
• 1:49:40
  yards, and they shouldn't be, that's an ethical issue to them.
• 1:49:45
  That's not my fault. That's not Levi's fault.
• 1:49:48
  And whether they watched us do it or not, if they're an asshole
• 1:49:51
  like that, they're probably going to do it either way.
• 1:49:55
  So it's like no one's watching them.
• 1:49:56
  The only accountability they have is to themselves and to
• 1:49:59
  that animal. And so it's their ethics that
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  matter. But there's no other sport.
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  Like, do you watch race cars? And they're like, they don't lie
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  and say they're going on the track at 45 miles an hour
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  because I don't go watch fucking NASCAR and I got this.
• 1:50:13
  Me just take my little traverse and hit two.
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  Undo tomorrow. The traverse is crazy.
• 1:50:19
  I don't watch people on dirt bikes and just think, Oh, let me
• 1:50:22
  just go go off a jump or let me just so I think when you when he
• 1:50:26
  says that we fight about this all not actual fight, but debate
• 1:50:29
  fight about it all the time, because I'm very much like fuck
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  that. If you have the skill and the
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  ability, go for it, share it. Who cares?
• 1:50:37
  There's no other sport that the elitist like the the best of the
• 1:50:41
  best have to lie about their ability because the lesser
• 1:50:45
  people from a skill point of that think that they just are
• 1:50:49
  going to be good enough. It's kind of any other sport.
• 1:50:52
  It's kind of like the mentality of saying that all because your
• 1:50:54
  kids playing Call of Duty, they're going to go shoot a
• 1:50:57
  bunch of people. It's sort of the same thing.
• 1:51:00
  It's just like. Shooter.
• 1:51:01
  The kids going to be a shooter for whatever reason not.
• 1:51:04
  Listen, there is some good points from both sides here and
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  I love it. So drop down in the comments
• 1:51:09
  below which side you are on. And that's going to wrap up this
• 1:51:13
  podcast, folks. It is now.
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  What a great one to end on. It's about two hours deep.
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  I'm tired, boss. I'm tired.
• 1:51:21
  He's going to need an I'm like John coffee right now from Green
• 1:51:24
  Mile. Great movie.
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  Shout out Tom Hanks. But yeah, thank you for
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