Latest / Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning / Ross Fulton Analysis: 3 Things To Watch, 3 Concerns For Ohio State's Defense
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- 0:33Speaker 1: Lots to celebrate there. Something else to celebrate, we're going
- 0:35Speaker 1: to welcome in Ross Fulton, one of the scheme insiders
- 0:38Speaker 1: at BuckeyeInsiders.com. We're going to be talking about three things
- 0:41Speaker 1: he's going to be expecting to see out of the
- 0:43Speaker 1: Ohio State defense this year, and also a few maybe
- 0:46Speaker 1: areas of potential concern there as well. So I know
- 0:49Speaker 1: everyone wants to be excited, but everyone also wants to
- 0:51Speaker 1: have something to complain about. Sounds like we're going to
- 0:53Speaker 1: have a little bit of something for everyone here. And
- 0:55Speaker 1: one thing that there may be a little bit of
- 0:57Speaker 1: something for everyone is there may be more guys playing
- 1:00Speaker 1: on defense this year because you're expecting Matt Patricia to
- 1:03Speaker 1: maybe use more situational packages this year than he did
- 1:05Speaker 1: last year.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, as I discussed, like, I don't think
- 1:09Speaker 2: they're going to just rotate. Like, I don't expect Jalen
- 1:11Speaker 2: McClain or a little to rotate just to rotate.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:14Speaker 2: But I do think there'll be more packages. As I discussed,
- 1:18Speaker 2: you know, basically last year against 11 personnel, one tight end,
- 1:21Speaker 2: they play nickel, 12 personnel, two tight ends. you know,
- 1:25Speaker 2: they bring in a third linebacker instead. And then they,
- 1:27Speaker 2: they had a dime package look that they'd use on
- 1:30Speaker 2: some third logs. I think there'll be a couple more
- 1:33Speaker 2: things this year. In addition, I mean, I think those
- 1:35Speaker 2: three things will be staples, but you know, one, I
- 1:39Speaker 2: do think that they'll have maybe like a big nickel package,
- 1:43Speaker 2: like sort of in between, like, you know, someone like
- 1:46Speaker 2: a Simeon Caldwell who comes in, you know, if Jake
- 1:48Speaker 2: Timmons were assuming is the base nickel defender, maybe they
- 1:51Speaker 2: want someone who's more of like a, safety linebacker hybrid type. Um, and,
- 1:56Speaker 2: and so to sort of, you know, have an in-between
- 1:59Speaker 2: between a three linebacker look and the nickel. Um, another
- 2:03Speaker 2: one is I could, uh, you know, expect like a three,
- 2:07Speaker 2: three look where one of the linebackers, you know, uh,
- 2:11Speaker 2: Christian Allegro or Riley Pettijohn, um, is much, is more
- 2:15Speaker 2: sort of like a standup, um, you know, rush end
- 2:19Speaker 2: type where it's, it's kind of a pass, uh, pass
- 2:22Speaker 2: rush look. so to speak, because I do think, you know,
- 2:25Speaker 2: get to one of the concerns, like, obviously I think
- 2:28Speaker 2: it's a question mark opposite Kenyatta Jackson and particularly like,
- 2:31Speaker 2: you know, I think biggest issue is stopping the run.
- 2:35Speaker 2: But I think after that, you know, obviously they're going
- 2:37Speaker 2: to need to generate some pressure. And so might use
- 2:40Speaker 2: one of those guys. So I think you'll have some,
- 2:42Speaker 2: some sub packages that you'll see a little bit more of.
- 2:45Speaker 1: And another way they could potentially generate some more pass
- 2:48Speaker 1: rush and more pressure on that opposing quarterback is with
- 2:50Speaker 1: creepers and SIM pressures. This is something that Michael Pettit,
- 2:54Speaker 1: our other scheme insider, did a whole show about earlier
- 2:57Speaker 1: in the summer. You can find that if you want
- 2:58Speaker 1: to search, well, I'd be careful searching creepers on the internet,
- 3:01Speaker 1: but if you search creepers and sim pressures, Buckeye insiders
- 3:04Speaker 1: on YouTube, you should get the right thing. But Ross,
- 3:07Speaker 1: why are you expecting that?
- 3:09Speaker 2: Again, I think they're going to need to generate the
- 3:12Speaker 2: rush that I don't think, you know, a pass rush
- 3:15Speaker 2: and use confusion. I don't think that they can play
- 3:19Speaker 2: as much in base as they did last year. You know,
- 3:21Speaker 2: they're missing obviously multiple high end first round guys that
- 3:26Speaker 2: were on that defense. And so I just think they're
- 3:28Speaker 2: going to have to rely more on scheme and confusion
- 3:32Speaker 2: by confusion. I mean, trying to confuse the offense. And so,
- 3:36Speaker 2: you know, things like, as I said, like I highly
- 3:38Speaker 2: recommend that show, you know, those four down rush packages
- 3:41Speaker 2: where you're bringing up back seven defender, but then dropping
- 3:44Speaker 2: a defensive lineman into coverage, you know, Quay Russo gives
- 3:49Speaker 2: them as one of their defensive ends, a lot of,
- 3:51Speaker 2: Flexibility to sort of play as a zone defender. Maybe
- 3:55Speaker 2: some more twists and suns up front as well on rundowns. Again,
- 3:58Speaker 2: I just think they're going to have to use scheme
- 4:01Speaker 2: to make up somewhat for the loss of downs and
- 4:04Speaker 2: styles and Reese from last year and Cade McDonald.
- 4:09Speaker 1: And another place that a guy like Quay Russo or
- 4:11Speaker 1: Christian Allegro, who you mentioned earlier, and then as well
- 4:14Speaker 1: as a whole bunch of other guys that we've talked
- 4:15Speaker 1: about already, they could all fit in is in the
- 4:18Speaker 1: penny front. And I know that's something that we talked
- 4:20Speaker 1: about a bunch during the season last year is something
- 4:24Speaker 1: that Matt Patricia was sort of bringing to Ohio state in,
- 4:27Speaker 1: in a way that they really hadn't used it that
- 4:29Speaker 1: much before. It seems like that might be an even
- 4:31Speaker 1: bigger potential role this season.
- 4:33Speaker 2: Yeah. I think even in like week zero, for instance,
- 4:36Speaker 2: we saw more and more odd penny front across college football.
- 4:40Speaker 2: So again, I think it's, you know, a good response
- 4:43Speaker 2: to teams that want to zone run teams, right. Cause it's,
- 4:45Speaker 2: as we talked about last year, reduces double teams. Patricia
- 4:49Speaker 2: has always been an odd front guy. You know, the
- 4:50Speaker 2: penny is, a 5-1, hence the penny. So it's a
- 4:55Speaker 2: nickel package, right? Unlike your traditional, like, 3-4, where you
- 4:58Speaker 2: have two inside linebackers here, you just have one. And,
- 5:01Speaker 2: you know, last year, they walked Arville Reese up, and
- 5:04Speaker 2: so you bump over your four defensive linemen and have Reese.
- 5:07Speaker 2: You know, I think Allegro can do that this year,
- 5:09Speaker 2: and that Reese role will come down and play to
- 5:12Speaker 2: set the edge. But I do think that the penny
- 5:15Speaker 2: front also, just personnel-wise, gives them a lot of flexibility.
- 5:18Speaker 2: You know, as I talk about in the article, like,
- 5:20Speaker 2: They have two, three techniques, an Edric Houston and James Smith.
- 5:24Speaker 2: So they could play both of them, you know, on
- 5:26Speaker 2: either side of the nose. Like Kenyatta Jackson, be the
- 5:29Speaker 2: stand-up edge opposite Allegro. And so you have a really
- 5:34Speaker 2: heavy run first look. They could go lighter, you know,
- 5:37Speaker 2: like last year, Jackson would bump inside and be one
- 5:39Speaker 2: of those defensive tackles of the penny. They could do
- 5:41Speaker 2: that with him. They could bring in Roussel outside of him,
- 5:45Speaker 2: you know, and so you have a much lighter, more
- 5:46Speaker 2: pass forward. focused Penny look. So I do think their
- 5:49Speaker 2: personnel lends itself to that front.
- 5:53Speaker 1: So you mentioned earlier the concern about the edge spot
- 5:57Speaker 1: opposite Kenyatta Jackson. And I think that's a perfectly legitimate
- 6:00Speaker 1: question mark to have right now. Sometimes that works out
- 6:03Speaker 1: fine and everyone's worried about Caden Curry and then Caden
- 6:05Speaker 1: Curry turns out to be an All-American, but not always.
- 6:08Speaker 1: So that's definitely one area to be concerned. It feels
- 6:10Speaker 1: like the defensive side of the ball, though, there are
- 6:12Speaker 1: more real question marks than there were on the offensive
- 6:15Speaker 1: side of the ball. So what are some other things
- 6:16Speaker 1: that are maybe a little bit of a question mark
- 6:18Speaker 1: in your mind right now?
- 6:19Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just throw more generally, like including with
- 6:22Speaker 2: that defensive end, like how the defensive line plays against
- 6:25Speaker 2: the run. I mean, the Ohio State defensive line last
- 6:28Speaker 2: year was great at block destruction and keeping the linebackers clean.
- 6:32Speaker 2: You know, Ryan Day's been asked about the defensive tackles
- 6:35Speaker 2: a couple times this month in August. And, you know,
- 6:39Speaker 2: I think he, I, I, it didn't seem like high,
- 6:43Speaker 2: you know, there's, they're talking about the depth, which always
- 6:46Speaker 2: to me is like on the one hand depth is great.
- 6:48Speaker 2: On the other hand, like you can only play, you know,
- 6:50Speaker 2: when the game's on the line, like do you have
- 6:52Speaker 2: guys that can, can make the plays? And so, you know,
- 6:55Speaker 2: I do think they have, they have some talent there
- 6:58Speaker 2: and just, we're going to have to see how that
- 7:00Speaker 2: front handles the run, particularly including from that defensive end spot.
- 7:06Speaker 2: The other one I'd add is sort of the corners.
- 7:07Speaker 2: And I guess you, you throw the nickel in there
- 7:09Speaker 2: just because, I mean, the praise for Jay Timmons is
- 7:12Speaker 2: very high, but obviously true freshmen, like we have to
- 7:14Speaker 2: see how he handles, you know, the in-game situations in
- 7:19Speaker 2: terms of like assignment football, right? Like you don't want
- 7:22Speaker 2: a bus to lead to a 75 yard touchdown play. So,
- 7:26Speaker 2: but I'd also add the corners. Like I think IGB
- 7:30Speaker 2: was pretty underrated in his time. I think last year,
- 7:34Speaker 2: Jermaine Matthews certainly had some ups and downs, particularly towards
- 7:38Speaker 2: the end of the year. And I think, Devin Sanchez
- 7:41Speaker 2: in that dime roll or third corner roll last year
- 7:43Speaker 2: also had some ups and downs and got picked on
- 7:46Speaker 2: at times as we talked about. So, you know, I
- 7:48Speaker 2: do think they're going to be a zone heavy team.
- 7:51Speaker 2: I think even probably more so than last year, lots
- 7:53Speaker 2: of cover three, cover two, other kinds of, you know,
- 7:56Speaker 2: split safety zone coverages. But I just still think like
- 7:59Speaker 2: we have to kind of see how all these parts
- 8:01Speaker 2: work together, right? They're replacing eight starters, um, SP Plus
- 8:05Speaker 2: has them as the number one preseason defense, but I
- 8:07Speaker 2: think there's certainly question marks out there to see how
- 8:10Speaker 2: it all fits together.
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