Latest / Dollars In The Dirt / #044 - How to Structure Your Debt for Where You Want to Be in 2030
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- 0:00Most graziers are missing a crucial step in setting up their debt for long-term
- 0:03success. Most producers think that as long as they're
- 0:06servicing their debts and not overextending, they're doing fine. After
- 0:10helping hundreds of farmers secure over a billion dollars in finance, I
- 0:13can tell you that proactively aligning your debt with your growth plans
- 0:17unlocks better terms and stronger cash flow. So in this video, I'm
- 0:21going to show you how to structure your debt to thrive through the 2030. I
- 0:24know you're running a solid beef operation in Queensland, turning over about $4 million.
- 0:29You're doing well, but you want to make sure your financial side of your business is
- 0:32set up to support where you want to be in the next seven years. whether
- 0:36that's expanding your herd, buying more land, or investing in
- 0:39infrastructure. And the way you manage your debt today will either
- 0:42be a stepping stone or a stumbling block. And let's break this
- 0:46down into three key points. First, where you are now and
- 0:49how to assess your current debt structure. Second, where
- 0:52do you want to be by 2030 and setting realistic but ambitious
- 0:56growth targets. And third, how to structure your debt
- 0:59between the two points, balancing core debt with your working
- 1:03capital and building in flexibility. Starting where you are
- 1:06now. This might sound obvious, but you'd be surprised how
- 1:09many producers don't take a good hard look at their current debt setup. It's
- 1:13not just about the total amount you owe or your monthly repayments. It's
- 1:17about understanding the types of debt you have, the interest rates, the
- 1:20repayment schedules, and how these align with your current cashflow cycles.
- 1:25For example, do you have a chunk of your debt tied up in short-term loans
- 1:28with high interest rates? Or maybe you've got some long-term loans that
- 1:32are locked in but don't really fit your cash flow cycles. For
- 1:35example, do you have a chunk of your debt tied up in short-term loans with
- 1:38high interest rates? Or maybe you've got some long-term loans that
- 1:42are locked in but don't really fit your cash flow. Sometimes producers
- 1:46pick up loans just to get the money they need at the time, without thinking
- 1:49about how that debt will sit with them in the long run. You want to map out
- 1:52your current debt portfolio, what's the split between fixed
- 1:56and variable rates, how much is secured against property versus equipment
- 1:59or livestock, and what are the repayment terms, and importantly, how
- 2:02do the repayments line up with your income streams? For a
- 2:06beef producer, income isn't always steady month to month, but
- 2:09you might have a big inflow when you sell cattle and then have leaner
- 2:13periods in between. Understanding this gives you a clear
- 2:16picture of your current financial position. It's like knowing the
- 2:19lay of the land before you start planting. Without this, you're flying blind.
- 2:23Let me give you a more detailed example. Imagine you've taken out
- 2:27a short-term loan over the last year to cover some urgent equipment repairs.
- 2:30The interest rate on this loan is higher than your long-term loans, but
- 2:33because it was urgent, you didn't have the time to shop it around. And
- 2:37now that loan is still sitting there, adding into your monthly cash flow,
- 2:40and you're paying more interest than you need to. If you don't identify
- 2:44this, you might miss the opportunity to refinance or restructure that
- 2:47debt into something more manageable. For a $4 million turnover beef
- 2:51producer, even a small percentage difference in interest rates
- 2:54can mean tens of thousands of dollars saved annually. Another
- 2:58common scenario is having a large portion of your debt secured against
- 3:02livestock or equipment, which might not be ideal. Livestock
- 3:06values can fluctuate with market conditions and equipment depreciates over
- 3:09time. If your loan is secured against these assets, you
- 3:13might find it harder to refinance or access additional funds when
- 3:16you need to. On the other hand, loans secured against land tend
- 3:20to have more stability and can offer better turns, so knowing
- 3:23where your debt is secured is crucial. Now here's a good place to
- 3:27pause and say, if you're looking at purchasing a property or growing
- 3:30your business and you want someone generally in your corner, book a free
- 3:33call. I specialize in helping graziers like you get
- 3:37the right loan structure that fits your unique goals and cash flow. The
- 3:40link's in the description. Once you've got that mapped out, you can start to
- 3:43think about where you want to be by 2030. And this is the second point,
- 3:47setting your growth targets. It's not enough to say you want to grow.
- 3:51You need to be specific. Do you want to increase your herd size
- 3:54by 30%? Are you planning on buying an additional 1000 hectares? Maybe
- 3:59you want to upgrade your water infrastructure or invest in new technology
- 4:03to improve productivity. Having clear goals to
- 4:06help you figure it out and how much capital you'll need and when It
- 4:10also helps you decide what kind of debt structure will support those
- 4:13goals. For example, if you're planning on a big land purchase
- 4:16in the next two years, you'll want to position your debt so you can access
- 4:20that finance without overextending yourself. It's also about
- 4:24understanding your business cycles over the next decade. Maybe you expect
- 4:27commodity prices to improve or anticipating some dry
- 4:30years. Your debt structure needs to be resilient even
- 4:34to handle those ups and downs. Setting these targets isn't
- 4:38just about numbers on a spreadsheet. It's about envisaging the kind of
- 4:41business you want to run, the lifestyle you want to have, and the legacy
- 4:44you want to leave. When you have the clear vision, you can make
- 4:47smarter decisions about your finance. So let's put this in
- 4:51context. Say you want to increase your herd by 30% over the next 5 years.
- 4:55That means more feed, more fencing, more staff. You'll
- 4:58need to budget not just on the purchase of the additional cattle, but
- 5:02also the ongoing costs that come with them. If you're planning to buy
- 5:05an extra thousand hectares, you'll need to consider the timing of that purchase,
- 5:09the deposit you require, and how you'll service that loan repayment
- 5:13alongside your existing debt. Maybe you're also thinking about upgrading your
- 5:16water infrastructure. In Queensland, reliable water supply is
- 5:20critical, especially in the variable climates. Investing in
- 5:23better water systems can improve your herd health, productivity, but
- 5:26it can also have a significant upfront cost. Knowing
- 5:30when you want to make that investment helps you plan your debt accordingly. Then
- 5:33there's the external environment. Commodity prices can
- 5:36be volatile. For instance, if global demand for beef spikes, you
- 5:40might see higher prices, which can boost your cash flow. But
- 5:44if there's a drought or a downturn in the market, your income could
- 5:47also take a hit. Your debt structure needs to be flexible enough
- 5:50to weather those fluctuations. All right, moving
- 5:54on to the third point, how to structure your debt between where
- 5:58you are now and where you want to be in 2030. This
- 6:01is where a lot of the producers get stuck. They either carry too
- 6:04much short-term debt that squeezes their cash flow, or they lock into
- 6:08long-term debt that doesn't give them the flexibility to pivot
- 6:11when things change. The key is to balance core debt with working capital.
- 6:15Core debt is your long-term stable borrowing. This is typically
- 6:19secured against your property or major assets and has fixed or
- 6:22variable rates with manageable repayments. It's the
- 6:25backbone of your finance structure, supporting your big investments like
- 6:29land purchases or major infrastructure. Working capital,
- 6:32on the other hand, is your short-term borrowing. This might be an
- 6:36overdraft or revolving credit facility that you use to manage
- 6:39your day-to-day expenses, seasonal cash flow gaps, or
- 6:42unexpected costs. Having access to flexible working
- 6:46capital means you're not forced to sell assets or take on expensive
- 6:49emergency loans when cash gets tight. When you structure your debt
- 6:53this way, you're setting yourself up to be resilient. You
- 6:56can make your big investments with confidence, knowing your core debt
- 6:59is manageable, and you can handle the ups and downs of running a
- 7:03grazing business without feeling the pinch. Flexibility is
- 7:06another crucial factor. The agricultural industry is unpredictable.
- 7:10Weather, market prices, input costs, they all fluctuate. Your
- 7:14debt structure needs to be adaptable. That might mean negotiating redraw
- 7:18facilities on your loan or having the options to pause repayments during
- 7:22tough times. It also means regularly reviewing your
- 7:25debt. What worked for you two years ago might not be the best fit
- 7:29now. As your business grows and your goals evolve, your
- 7:32debt structure should evolve too. So don't be afraid to
- 7:35have those conversations with your broker or your lender. Proactive
- 7:39management can save a lot of stress and money down the track. Another
- 7:42thing to consider is the interest rate environment. With rates changing,
- 7:46locking in part of your debt with a fixed rate can provide certainty,
- 7:49while keeping some variable debt lets you take advantage of any rate drops.
- 7:53It's about finding the right mix that suits your tolerance and cash
- 7:56flow. Let me give you a quick example. Say you want to buy an extra 500 hectares
- 8:00in the next 18 months. You might take out a long-term loan secured against
- 8:04your existing property with a fixed rate for that purchase. At
- 8:07the same time, you keep a flexible working capital facility, cover
- 8:11seasonal expenses like feed or vet bills. This way, your
- 8:15big purchase is locked in with predictable payments and your day-to-day
- 8:18cash flow stays flexible. Another example is
- 8:22if you're planning to invest in infrastructure upgrades over the next five years. You
- 8:25could stagger your borrowing, drawing down funds as you need them, rather
- 8:29than taking out a big loan at once. This reduces the
- 8:32interest costs and keeps the debt aligned with your actual spending.
- 8:36Think about the seasonal nature of your beef operation in Queensland. You
- 8:40might have a period where selling a large portion of your herd brings in
- 8:43significant cash inflow. Then there are leaner months where
- 8:47expenses like feed, vet bills, wages, they still need
- 8:50to be paid. Having working capital facilities that you
- 8:53can draw down during these lean months means you don't have to scramble for
- 8:57cash or sell off assets at the wrong time. Also
- 9:01consider unexpected events like drought or floods. These
- 9:04can hit your cash flow hard and fast. And if your debt is too
- 9:07rigid, you might find yourself in trouble. But if you've got flexibility built
- 9:11into your borrowing, such as the ability to pause repayments, redraw funds,
- 9:15you can navigate these challenges without derailing your business. So
- 9:19the bottom line is your debt structure should be a tool that works for
- 9:22you, not a burden that holds you back. It should support your
- 9:26growth, protect your cash flow, and give you options when things
- 9:29don't go to plan. Before we wrap up, remember that getting this
- 9:33right isn't a one-time thing. It's an ongoing process. Regularly
- 9:37review your debt position, revisit your growth targets, and
- 9:40adjust your finance structure as your business changes. And that's
- 9:43how you build a sustainable, thriving, grazing business through to 2030 and beyond. If
- 9:48you're feeling overwhelmed or unsure where to start, that's exactly why I'm
- 9:51here. I've helped hundreds of farmers like you navigate the complexities of
- 9:55agricultural finance. So whether it's structuring your loans, negotiating
- 9:59better terms, or planning for growth, I'm here to help. So
- 10:02if you want to make sure your debt is set up to help you reach your goals, book a
- 10:05free call with me. The links are in the description. There's no pressure,
- 10:09just a genuine conversation about your business and how to get your
- 10:12finance working for you. Thanks for listening today. Remember, the right
- 10:16debt structure isn't just about managing what you owe. It's about building
- 10:19the future you want. I'm Brecon Curtis, and I'll catch you next time.
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