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- 0:00Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
- 0:04all things Major League Baseball.
- 0:06Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
- 0:10It all starts right now. Welcome back to the Three O Take
- 0:16presented by C Kick. This is episode 419.
- 0:19I'll be your host, Kyle Corwin, and I'm here with my Co host,
- 0:22Nate Reyes. Nate.
- 0:30Howdy, last episode of the offseason.
- 0:40And I'll be honest with you our our it is wild.
- 0:43I really wanted to. My play in even before like a
- 0:48week ago, even before this whole Ohtani thing broke, was to have
- 0:54today be more of just like maybe like a Part B or like a follow
- 0:59up to our hot takes and predictions episode where we
- 1:01just, you know, kind of look ahead.
- 1:03Maybe just some something innocent.
- 1:05Yeah, something something innocent.
- 1:07Something that we could maybe spend some time having a couple
- 1:11laughs about. But we can't do that,
- 1:13unfortunately, because nonsense. We we have one of maybe one of
- 1:20the top scandals of baseball history unfolding.
- 1:26We're we're not there yet, but it could based on the
- 1:30developments. A lot a lot has happened since
- 1:35our last episode. Our last episode, we talked
- 1:38about really just what he was freshly fired.
- 1:46Yeah, yeah. What had unfolded while the team
- 1:48was in Korea for the For the Soul series.
- 1:53But I don't know, man, there's been, there's been some some
- 2:00updates, some developments. Shohei addressed the media
- 2:04today, this evening or this afternoon.
- 2:07If you're out West, you hit me up on text with maybe a a
- 2:16thought related to a conspiracy or two.
- 2:19There's a lot to lot to lot to go through here.
- 2:23Where, where, where do you want to start here?
- 2:29Let's start with the I. Don't the statement his
- 2:38statement as predictable as we could imagine, I think.
- 2:52Yes and no. Like I I I felt like going into
- 2:57it. I thought it was going to be
- 2:58even more brief than it was. I thought it was really just
- 3:01going to be. Unfortunately I cannot comment
- 3:05on an ongoing investigation. If the investigation is
- 3:09technically started yet, Are we at that stage yet?
- 3:11I think it started, yeah. OK, an ongoing investigation.
- 3:15Can't comment. This is unfortunate for my
- 3:18teammates, our fans. I hope that I I'm not a
- 3:24distraction moving forward, but he wouldn't.
- 3:26He didn't say anything. I feel like he went into a
- 3:29little bit of detail, so I don't know, little bit of a surprising
- 3:37statement, if you will. Not buying it, dude.
- 3:40I'm not buying any of this. None of it.
- 3:48There's just no way. Trying to full find the full
- 3:52statement here. There we go.
- 3:55Yeah, I I gotta. I gotta admit, I was watching
- 3:58it. I finally found it.
- 4:00OK, 'cause I know you reached out to me.
- 4:02You're like, hey, are you watching this?
- 4:04I said I'm, I'm looking for it. I can't find it because minutes
- 4:09earlier I had come across a post that said no cameras will be
- 4:13allowed for the statement, which was another thing.
- 4:15This is all a part of it. All all very strange.
- 4:21What did I what did I tweet out today?
- 4:24Like moments before the the media thing said one, he's
- 4:30reading a statement. Two, he's taking no questions.
- 4:33And three, there's no cameras allowed.
- 4:36This is fine, sure, we'll go with that.
- 4:40But I just assumed when they said no cameras allowed, I
- 4:42didn't know that they meant that these outlets were were able to
- 4:50have their equipment in there. They were more so referring to
- 4:52the cell phones of the reporters, so on and so forth.
- 4:56But there were some things as I was watching it, watching the
- 5:02replay or the live, the live stream after the fact, where I I
- 5:07kind of rolled my eyes a little bit.
- 5:09I'm like, that doesn't make sense.
- 5:11First of all, my initial thought when I saw them sat down, Shohei
- 5:15starts talking to the media. The interpreter that they have
- 5:21now replaced, he saw. I don't what my brother, what
- 5:28are you writing down? First of all, like, just stop.
- 5:31Like listen what he was writing before Shohei even started
- 5:34talking. Like I I don't want to I don't
- 5:37want to like get too nitpicky. But I I I genuinely wanted to
- 5:42know what he was writing down. Because I'm like, your job is
- 5:44literally to take what he's saying.
- 5:46And it's possible that maybe he's like jotting down notes as
- 5:50he's going, as Shohei's talking because some of his answers a
- 5:53little long winded and didn't didn't give this guy a a chance
- 5:56to step in and maybe, you know, break it up a little bit.
- 5:59So maybe maybe that's what was going on.
- 6:01But it led me to another question in that this statement
- 6:08was obviously prepared ahead of time.
- 6:09So why didn't they just give a translated version to the
- 6:16interpreter, or really anybody that spoke English for that
- 6:21matter, that could read a piece of paper of the statement
- 6:25translated to English so that we could avoid the whole lost in
- 6:30translation issue? Because that's partially what
- 6:34this whole thing revolved around.
- 6:37And honestly, like the translator's English wasn't even
- 6:41very good. Like it it he kind of struggled
- 6:45and I was I was expecting like I I I need you to be fluent in
- 6:51English moving forward. I don't like this guy.
- 6:56I don't like him. I don't know who he is, but I
- 6:58don't like him. I don't trust him.
- 7:01I. Don't.
- 7:05Was there was there anything that was there anything that
- 7:07stuck out to you? Because I I know, like I said,
- 7:09you you hit me with. Well, why is it?
- 7:16Why was it only on their mobile networks?
- 7:19What's that about? Well, I think there were.
- 7:24I mean, I found it from a replay of a live stream from some news
- 7:29outlet. I don't know if it was LA based
- 7:31or if it was some other channel that had flown in for the event.
- 7:35I don't know. But initially it was only on MLB
- 7:38Network Live. You could only catch it live on
- 7:41MLB Network, who owns MLB Network.
- 7:48Interesting. It's interesting there.
- 7:58I overall, I just, I'm not buying any of this.
- 8:02I'm not buying any of it MLB Network afterwards, which I mean
- 8:08we'll get into the statement and everything here.
- 8:10But like even afterwards, like it was Matt Baskirchen and Dan
- 8:14O'Dowd immediately. And like every person that came
- 8:20on to MLB Network for the after that with Dan O'Dowd.
- 8:24And then then what they did was they played the, the conference,
- 8:28the press conference, Matt Vasgersian, Dan O'Dowd had about
- 8:315 minutes and then they just replayed that and then replayed
- 8:35the Matt Vasgersian thing again and then it went into MLB
- 8:40tonight or something. And then we had Mike Lowell and
- 8:47Dan Plesac, Every person, Dan Plesac, Mike Lowell, Dan O'Dowd.
- 8:54I think we could just tell how much raw emotion was coming out
- 9:00of Otani. You could just tell that that
- 9:02was what do you what, what emotion?
- 9:04I saw No emotion. I couldn't tell any emotion
- 9:08whatsoever. Sorry.
- 9:10This guy's been a robot for seven years that we've known
- 9:13him. But like, it looks the same to
- 9:15me. And even then this.
- 9:18There's no emotion coming out of the interpreter.
- 9:20I'm like, I don't what do you talk?
- 9:22It's just like this weird. Like let's make it exclusive to
- 9:29us so we can control what this is.
- 9:32I there's no doubt in my mind that MLB is a part of keeping
- 9:40this quick tight knit, and to me it sounds like we're trying to
- 9:50sweep it under the rug as as quickly as possible.
- 9:54As quickly and as efficiently as possible, I forgot to mention,
- 9:58speaking about MLB media, I saw I saw that Ken Rosenthal, on
- 10:06foul territory a handful of days ago, was quoted as saying,
- 10:12quote, Not a chance. Ohtani speaks publicly during
- 10:16the investigation, and I believe it was the next day that it was
- 10:24that the post was tweeted out. Shohei Ohtani will address the
- 10:28media on Monday, per multiple reports.
- 10:31Yeah. So I'm glad we're back to
- 10:34reporters not having a clue as to what they're freaking talking
- 10:37about. Because I missed it to be quite
- 10:41honest with you. But yeah, you know looking
- 10:46looking through the the transcript again, like I said, I
- 10:50think it was a little longer than I was anticipating.
- 10:52I thought this was gonna be very brief and I mean I guess for
- 10:54some press cut for depending upon how you view press
- 10:59conferences it maybe maybe was brief to you but I'd I thought
- 11:05it was gonna be much shorter. But he he went into it a little
- 11:12bit. You know the very, very cordial
- 11:14at the beginning as you would expect, he says obviously
- 11:18they're saying so I'm limited in being able to talk about I do
- 11:22have AI do I thought I like how he is very literal.
- 11:25He says I do have a document in front of me that I will refer
- 11:27to, that I will refer to that will deal, that will detail what
- 11:32has happened and then he just goes right into it.
- 11:38He says. So I never bet on baseball or
- 11:41any other sports or never have asked somebody to do that on my
- 11:45behalf. And I have never went through a
- 11:48bookmaker to bet on sports. Up until a couple of days ago, I
- 11:53didn't know that this was happening just to kind of go
- 11:56over the result. In conclusion, IPE has been
- 12:00stealing money from my account and has told lies.
- 12:05So here's the deal. Personally, based on how I feel
- 12:18about Shohei, I would be I would be shocked to find out that
- 12:26Shohei was the one responsible for the betting on the flip
- 12:31side. On the flip side, I would be
- 12:36shocked to find out that he genuinely didn't know.
- 12:44There's. No way.
- 12:45There is no way. There's no way I can't we.
- 12:51Went over this, no. We went over this last week.
- 12:56He had checks. Written in 2021 with his name on
- 13:00it. Wire transfers with his name on
- 13:03it in 2021. Two of them for a half
- 13:05$1,000,000. So let me get this straight.
- 13:09You and Ipe are the only ones looking over your accounts.
- 13:13You don't have any financial managers, financial advisors.
- 13:18No one throwing up a red flag saying hey, where'd this Millie
- 13:21go? No one three years ago mentioned
- 13:26anything. What is why is it just now
- 13:31fraud. Why is it just now Theft
- 13:35shouldn't have been theft back then.
- 13:40Why does it pay? Have access to your stuff?
- 13:44Didn't answer that. Didn't.
- 13:46Do that translator. I don't care how close you are
- 13:52as friends, you're not gonna know my pin.
- 13:54You're not gonna be moving money around for me, shout.
- 13:58Out to our our good buddy Ryan Ripken.
- 14:00I was listening to his they went Live Today talk about the the
- 14:04presser and he made a good point.
- 14:06He he looked around the room to the guys that he does his show
- 14:10with and he's like, I think all of you are good kids.
- 14:13I love each and everyone of you, but I'm not giving you my
- 14:15banking info. And I said that's for me, that's
- 14:19where it starts and stops. Like I don't care that this guy
- 14:21lives with you. I don't care that you guys have
- 14:23been best friends since however long.
- 14:27The guy clearly is not straightforward because then you
- 14:31you bring into account all these other things that have developed
- 14:35in the last 244872 hours, find out that he didn't go to what
- 14:42was it, UC Riverside? They the the university came out
- 14:46and said yeah, there's no documentation that shows that he
- 14:49ever attended this place. Apparently he.
- 14:52Was on record or? I don't know if on record is the
- 14:56the right way to put it, but it was presented as fact that he
- 15:01was an interpreter for Hidekio Kojima for the Red Sox at one
- 15:05point. Also for the.
- 15:06Yankees that. Yeah, that was never So what are
- 15:12first of all, why is this information just coming out now?
- 15:15Two Is he that like is he that conniving to mislead Shohei that
- 15:26well for that long? I I have a hard time believing
- 15:29that there was no point in time. Which brings me back to my point
- 15:34that there's no way that Shohei didn't know that anything was
- 15:37going on. Which then makes you think that
- 15:42this is just an attempt to orchestrate some degree.
- 15:46To which degree I don't know, but some degree of a cover up.
- 15:50Some attempt to save some. Attempt to save face.
- 15:53Because there's no way that he was acting, that Ipe was acting
- 15:59alone. There's no way that Ohtani found
- 16:03out in Korea. Yeah, I agree.
- 16:07Either Otani was placing these bets himself, Ipe was placing
- 16:11them for him, or he paid off Ipe's debt, just like Ipe
- 16:18initially said. All three he knew for sure.
- 16:28Whatever route you want to go, Otani knew about this, and it's
- 16:31not like this press conference was underoath.
- 16:35But I I'm not buying it, dude. I don't buy it.
- 16:41So I think there's probably gonna be more details that come
- 16:44out to just try and overwhelm the evidence that it based some
- 16:51kind of con artist, you know what I mean?
- 16:52Like, there's gonna be more stuff that comes out that just
- 16:56says this is who we like. Someone, someone from Japan's
- 16:58gonna be like, he also owes me $3,000,000.
- 17:02There's gonna be some random bookkeeper, you know, like a
- 17:04different state. That's like he owes me 1.5.
- 17:08Like that's what this is gonna be.
- 17:10It's gonna be, let's just make it so over the top.
- 17:14Obvious that if they did this, that we're not even gonna have
- 17:17to look in Ohtani's direction anymore.
- 17:19That's why they gave him a wife and his wife.
- 17:22I'm not buying that either, dude.
- 17:24I told you before I called that before all this stuff came out.
- 17:29I'll give it to you. He did.
- 17:32Who doesn't like? Who doesn't announce an
- 17:33engagement? Who doesn't post something?
- 17:36Like, anywhere, anywhere. You're doing GQ shoots.
- 17:42You're doing New Balance shoots. No one.
- 17:45Like you're not going anywhere with this girlfriend of yours,
- 17:47with this fiance of yours. You're just suddenly married.
- 17:50It's let's make let's make Shohei a stand up guy and let's
- 17:55make Ipei super evil. And I'm sure Ipei knows about
- 18:00this. I'm sure he signed up for this.
- 18:02I'm sure he's like, hey Shohei, as long as you take care of my
- 18:05family, I'll take this for you. I'll take this bullet.
- 18:09I'll get buried. It's only gonna get worse on his
- 18:13side. Going back to your your point
- 18:18about these, these bookies are going to start popping up these
- 18:26these individuals tied to gambling in some way shape or
- 18:30form are going to start popping up some connection to show, hey,
- 18:33some connection to IPA or more so connection to IPA.
- 18:37I think you're right. I think they're they're more
- 18:40more of these things are going to start popping up.
- 18:42And I bet you if there was, if there was an individual, say, in
- 18:47Kansas, a bookie that pops up in Kansas, I guarantee if you
- 18:53checked his phone, there'd probably be a text sitting in
- 18:57his inbox from Rob Manfred saying, hey, thanks, buddy,
- 19:00thanks for doing us a solid, because you cannot tell me that
- 19:04Major League Baseball is doing everything in its power to put
- 19:10blinders on this whole situation and to hustle it down the hall,
- 19:16get it out the door, before anything could even come close
- 19:21to touching show hands. Yep.
- 19:23Yep, Yep. The first interview that we
- 19:26caught after the Matty V and Dan O'Dowd stuff was a segment.
- 19:33I think it was like the Dodgers radio guy and he was standing in
- 19:38front of the dugout on the field talking about, again, the same
- 19:41thing. Each one of these guys talked
- 19:44about how emotional Otani sounded.
- 19:48Each one of them, they said the same thing.
- 19:52This reporter, this radio guy standing in front of the dugout
- 19:55is like, I've got, I've got team captain Austin Barnes in front
- 20:01of me. I've got.
- 20:04Freddie Freeman in here, America's first baseman.
- 20:07They're just excited to play ball.
- 20:09I'm like, dude, all of you have been told.
- 20:12All of you have been told. That's why it was exclusive to
- 20:15MLB. Let's let's keep it on MLB
- 20:18Network. Like, all of this is to control,
- 20:21dude, I'm not buying any of this.
- 20:24I'm not buying any of it. I bet we're going to come out
- 20:27with something random. Like someone's going to create
- 20:29like some IPE's not really IPE. It's his name's something
- 20:33totally different. I do wonder where the heck this
- 20:36guy came from, though, if he didn't go to UC Riverside and
- 20:39didn't work for any of these team.
- 20:41Like, how did? But like, why was he boys with
- 20:45Shohei in Japan? And then how could he just forge
- 20:50the fact that he said he had a job with the Yankees and the Red
- 20:53Sox before you came over with Shohei, didn't he?
- 21:00I, I That's what I thought. Imagine, Yeah.
- 21:05A lot. A lot of.
- 21:06Weird stuff dude. What I don't understand is if
- 21:11the FBI is involved, as we've heard, or planning to get
- 21:14involved at some at some point along along the line.
- 21:19We've had authorities look into cold cases that are 506070 years
- 21:25old, and we're finding we're we're coming up with details
- 21:31that were in the dust for however many years.
- 21:37How is it that we why can't we just do a quick Google search
- 21:43and figure out where this guy was, where he came from, his
- 21:47background, the people that he hangs out with?
- 21:49Like, we're not this isn't the 1940s?
- 21:53How do we not know more about this guy?
- 21:54And why all of a sudden are these revelations being made
- 21:59about him not being there, him not having that role?
- 22:04It tells us that I'd I'd never even heard about him being a a
- 22:09translator or interpreter, any other team until now.
- 22:14I never knew that. It's just random.
- 22:20It's just weird stuff, man. I I don't believe this stuff.
- 22:25I don't believe it. The story changed too many
- 22:29times. It's.
- 22:30Changed too many times. The thinking about going back to
- 22:35the the presser, the the part that raised some eyebrows for me
- 22:43at least, was when he was talking about the team meeting
- 22:47where Ipe addressed the Dodgers. This is what?
- 22:53This is a cop out for all. Intents and purposes.
- 22:56Oppressor. For oppressor's sake.
- 22:58It was going along pretty well, like he was saying the right
- 23:02things. He was addressing the right
- 23:03things that he needed to. But then he got to this point
- 23:06and I I I was like show. Hey, come on, guy.
- 23:11You gotta whoever and whoever on your legal team wanting to
- 23:16include this. They maybe should have thought
- 23:18otherwise because this didn't make any sense, he said.
- 23:23He said. So IPA has been telling
- 23:25everybody around that IPA has been communicating with Shohei
- 23:28on all on all this account, to my representatives, to the team,
- 23:32and that hasn't been true. The first time I knew about this
- 23:36gambling, IPA's gambling, was after the first game in Korea
- 23:41when he had the team meeting in the clubhouse.
- 23:43This is where it gets interesting, he says.
- 23:45So during the team meeting, obviously Ipe was speaking in
- 23:50English and I didn't have a translator on my side.
- 23:54But even with that, I kind of understood what was going on and
- 23:58started to feel that there was something amiss.
- 24:02What does that even mean, Chohei?
- 24:06Come on, man. Like, whether or not that's
- 24:08true, you got to find a different way to present that
- 24:11that that that you can poke holes in that all day.
- 24:17That makes no sense. So we're OK.
- 24:22So then tell me this on the occasion.
- 24:28Ipe's not around because Ipe's around 24/7.
- 24:31It sounds like handling Chohey's finances, apparently.
- 24:36I'm sure he cooks for him. Who knows on the occasion that
- 24:41he's not around? How are you making out without
- 24:46IPE? Yeah, I think.
- 24:48This guy. I think this guy knows a little
- 24:50bit more English than he lets on to.
- 24:52I agree. You've been here seven years,
- 24:54yeah. I'm gonna go ahead and say he
- 24:58knows more English than he lets on, but I I I will admit, I will
- 25:02admit there is some sort of like.
- 25:06There's like a. Boyish charm though to Shohei
- 25:10like remove. Did you see him?
- 25:12Did you see him? Like, sit down and 1st like
- 25:14touch the mic and like, smile. I'm like, yeah, what are you?
- 25:18Doing so, pretend this pretend this gambling thing didn't
- 25:22happen. Just think of Shohei as Shohei.
- 25:25You gotta admit, there's like a boyish charm there with the just
- 25:30the grins, the picking up of the trash, which we talked about
- 25:33last, or which I brought up last week, which I thought was just a
- 25:37it's a funny layer to all of this.
- 25:40It's the guy that has a montage on YouTube for picking up trash
- 25:43at ballparks. Like I I just really have a hard
- 25:45time wrapping my head around the fact that this guy was gambling
- 25:48millions and millions of dollars away.
- 25:54But with that with. The boy's charm element it it
- 26:01kind of makes sense you know like he's he's going around
- 26:04there's like a there's like a a blissful ignorance if you will
- 26:09just show him a dope. No, not like a dope, but like
- 26:13it's very much like a, hey, I I kind of have like if he if he
- 26:18was speaking to us in English, he'd probably like, yeah, I'm
- 26:21like I kind of have an idea and I can kind of put the pieces
- 26:23together, but I don't really know.
- 26:25So I just kind of go along with it.
- 26:26That's kind of how I envisioned show a like what his response to
- 26:30that would be. But something like this that
- 26:35kind of goes out the window for me.
- 26:37Like if if you know that your translator is addressing the
- 26:42team, like I wanna make sure I understand what's going on.
- 26:48Yeah, you're not just sitting back in the.
- 26:49Corner just being like at letting letting him finish.
- 26:53Then he comes back and like, hey, what was that all about?
- 26:57Yeah, like. You shouldn't be.
- 26:58Speaking to anybody, unless it's through me like I these are not.
- 27:03I don't understand what IPE is dude.
- 27:07I he's something else. Like if there was something of
- 27:12like. If he was like.
- 27:17Ipe has not just been, if he would have came out today, just
- 27:20been like Ipe's not just my interpreter, Ipe's also been
- 27:23like a quasi manager for me in certain ways.
- 27:28You know what I mean? Like my liaison and he's been
- 27:32able to, you know, get things done for me and and handle
- 27:37negotiations or handle conversations.
- 27:39I've give him the the freedom to do that stuff like that would
- 27:42have got me more bought in. I would have been like OK.
- 27:47Right now you're just. Boys.
- 27:50And he's an interpreter, so it doesn't check those boxes.
- 27:53As to why he has access to your stuff, it doesn't check those
- 27:57boxes as to why. His resume.
- 28:02Isn't up to date like what? Or even accurate or even.
- 28:06What is that? I don't.
- 28:09How do you not vet this guy? Like, how do you not have
- 28:12financial advisors looking into your account?
- 28:14Like, I think the truest story we'll ever get was the story of
- 28:20IPE going to ESPN and what he told everybody.
- 28:26Maybe Shohei is not a gambler. Maybe he doesn't really care
- 28:30about other sports. And I've seen all over Twitter,
- 28:32they're like, oh, really? And he's rocking like a Lamar
- 28:34Jackson jersey walking in pregame.
- 28:37His wife played basketball over there and is like kind of a big
- 28:41star over there. Like I would go ahead and and
- 28:45presume you, you probably watch other sports.
- 28:50I can. I speak to that point of not.
- 28:52Gambling I get. That's fine.
- 28:54That's I. Feel like that's exactly the and
- 28:56you could probably speak to that based on the little or however
- 29:00much I talked to you about like football or basketball or lack
- 29:03thereof, but you could take it or leave it.
- 29:06I keep up. Like, I'm.
- 29:07I'm aware of what's going on in the NFL.
- 29:09I'm aware of the headlines coming out of the NBA.
- 29:11Like March Madness. I'm.
- 29:13I'm obviously into this time of year.
- 29:15So like I'm. I feel like it's hard.
- 29:18For him like if he truly does not.
- 29:22Gamble on other. Sports or like he wasn't
- 29:24responsible for the bets that went out to the what was it?
- 29:27The international soccer and and so on and so forth.
- 29:31If he's truly not responsible for that, I feel like it is hard
- 29:36to navigate the waters of saying.
- 29:39I don't care. Or keep up with any other sport,
- 29:42but also having to address hey, well show.
- 29:45Hey, why were you at the Rams game when you got, when you got
- 29:47sent to the Dodgers? Like what?
- 29:50Why? What about your wife, who is a a
- 29:53a star basketball player in Japan?
- 29:55I I feel like I'm kind of there, 'cause I'm like, I, yes, I I'm
- 30:01aware of what of the sports that are going on around me.
- 30:04But I for me, it's just baseball.
- 30:06Like I'll I'll watch football occasionally.
- 30:08I'll watch some college basketball from time to time.
- 30:11But like, I, it's baseball. So I I wasn't gonna.
- 30:15I wasn't gonna for that. I'm not going to.
- 30:17Either. And I'm, you know, to give him
- 30:19the benefit of the doubt. Like I said, I think the truest
- 30:21story was the fact that he probably knew.
- 30:23If they was a gambler, he's probably known for years.
- 30:26He's probably known for years and well, I was gonna add that.
- 30:32I'm glad you brought that up. I was gonna ask you.
- 30:35Going back to this. Boyish charm thing, do you
- 30:37think? Honestly.
- 30:40Do because I know. You have your thoughts about
- 30:42Shohei as it as it stands right now, but do you honestly think
- 30:45that there was any shot that he? Honest to God.
- 30:50Had no idea the legality of what or what what's happening.
- 30:56That's. What I think it is, that's
- 30:58exactly what I think it is. I think he knew that Ipe was
- 31:02gambling. I think he for years, I think he
- 31:04knew that IPA was gambling. I think he knew that IPA went in
- 31:07debt. I think he said IPA, I don't
- 31:11trust you with this money. I'm going to pay your debt
- 31:13directly. And then when IPA came out and
- 31:18this is all coming out in this you know investigation happening
- 31:21in California catches IPA notices show his name.
- 31:26He I I would like to say that he probably went directly to EPA
- 31:30and just said, hey like are you willing to take the fall for
- 31:33being a gambler and like just saying like, hey, I, I, you know
- 31:38I was helping a friend out and EPA's like cool, goes to ESPN
- 31:44tells this 90 minute story interview.
- 31:48And then? Well, it's Ohtani's attorneys.
- 31:51Find out and they're like, hey, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
- 31:53that's illegal, dude. Like your name is on that check.
- 31:57Like, that's just as bad as betting yourself.
- 32:01So we can't do that. So we need to call Ipe a liar
- 32:04now because he's already obviously talked to a reporter.
- 32:08That's what I think happened. I mean, Ipe's again, probably
- 32:13there's there's gonna be stacks. I bet we're gonna have more
- 32:17details trickle out about Ipe and the fraud and the Khan and
- 32:21the and the, you know, mischievous background, whatever
- 32:24it may be. To the point where it's.
- 32:27Like all fingers obviously point his direction and it's gonna let
- 32:31Ohtani out of the hook. Did you see Pete Rose?
- 32:36Today, yeah. He said if I had a translator
- 32:40out of gotten away Scott free, I do relax any.
- 32:44Opportunity. That guy.
- 32:45Gets, man, he's he's jumping at it.
- 32:47So good also for Pete. I for me, there's there's record
- 32:51of bets. Bookkeepers keep records of
- 32:56bets. You have to.
- 32:59You're setting your own odds. You that.
- 33:04Guy can tell us exactly what these bets have been placed on.
- 33:09And we can figure. Out what sports they are and not
- 33:16to go down. I don't think I'm going to go as
- 33:18far as this. This one account that I saw on
- 33:20Twitter, what was like the. The.
- 33:25Massive bets that were placed on days that Shohei pitched and.
- 33:34It was like. Over unders on totals with the
- 33:37with their competitor and he's pitching and then like he is up
- 33:40five runs or six runs or whatever.
- 33:42I'm not gonna go that far. I am curious to see if there's
- 33:46been some giant anonymous donation to UC Riverside though.
- 33:55Just a big. Old check you would.
- 33:58You would never. That would.
- 33:59That. Would never see the light of
- 34:01day. That would never see the light.
- 34:02Of day that's getting. Dropped off in a duffel bag in
- 34:06cash under the darkness of night and that's gonna be used for
- 34:13academic building construction. You're never gonna see that cash
- 34:17if that were, if that were, if that were just curious to see.
- 34:20What new library is gonna pop up at UC Riverside to go ahead and
- 34:26just wash to wash away Tami's records of being a student
- 34:32there? The Shohei Ohtani, I've seen
- 34:36suits, actually, they put Mike. Ross into Harvard, so just
- 34:45saying. Look, here's here's kind of.
- 34:52And look, my opinion is going to evolve as more as more
- 34:56information comes out it's going to evolve.
- 34:59But I think for myself. As it stands, right?
- 35:02Now. I'm going to.
- 35:05Choose to believe it's a little muddy, but that Shohei is
- 35:15genuinely a good dude. Made.
- 35:19I won't in the eyes of the law the wrong decision or maybe a
- 35:25couple wrong decisions, but I think it was just, it was more
- 35:30so unwise Decisions they were he made decisions without the
- 35:39opinion or clarification from counsel, whether it be legal or
- 35:45otherwise, and that he was just genuinely trying to help out a
- 35:52friend. I think that's what it.
- 35:53Is too and I if. I If I had to.
- 35:57If I had to bet, I would say that.
- 36:01Maybe. If they are as as close to
- 36:05buddies as has made has been made out to be that.
- 36:09Maybe they just got. Together they went out for
- 36:12drinks one night and we're like, look, we have a situation on our
- 36:16hands as as you and I have come to learn more and more about
- 36:20like how hot a water we're in here.
- 36:23So let's do what we can to keep this under wraps.
- 36:28And then I. My guess is that people around
- 36:31people in Shohei's camp again, legal or otherwise.
- 36:35They caught wind of. This finally, after they'd
- 36:39attempted to keep it under wraps.
- 36:40And they go, shohei, you gotta you gotta get out of this now.
- 36:43Yeah, let's get you a wife. And then so and.
- 36:49We'll get ahead. Of it I don't know, man.
- 36:51So so. Honestly it when you when you
- 36:54look at the whole MLB cover up element of it, I personally I
- 37:00think it's less of an attempt to cover up show hey being some
- 37:04sort of degenerate gambler and I don't think it is and.
- 37:07More of a. Cover up to just keep his image
- 37:09clean, even the like. Like I said, I think that he
- 37:14just made some unwise decisions he he maybe didn't understand
- 37:18the ramifications of or the consequences of the decisions he
- 37:21was making to help out. A friend, not knowing that,
- 37:23probably tried to do it on his own.
- 37:25Right, paying off a bookie. Is illegal like this and related
- 37:30decisions to that and probably lied.
- 37:33To the financial advisor said, hey, I need a million.
- 37:36I mean I need a million broken up into two payments.
- 37:39It's for me. Pays it for it.
- 37:43Pay himself, Yeah. And I bet.
- 37:45And I'm. Sure that I'm sure the people,
- 37:47if if that's how it went down, my guess is that the people in
- 37:50in the ML BS front offices are going, I mean to us and to to
- 37:56reasonable thinking people. This really isn't like.
- 38:00No need to understand a. Guy's career ruined in a league,
- 38:04Literally. I'm not gonna say shattered, but
- 38:08it would be. It would be rough.
- 38:13It would be quite. The, the black mark.
- 38:16But yeah, they're probably sitting there going like, again,
- 38:18if that's how it happened, they're probably going this it
- 38:20like, for all intents and purposes, not the worst thing
- 38:23that's come across our desk. But as with so many of these
- 38:27other things like the Trevor Bauer thing that we I, I feel
- 38:29like I made the same exact point on you have idiot baseball fans
- 38:33out there. You have people that just choose
- 38:35to be inflammatory on social media because they want to get
- 38:38the clicks, They want to get the engagement.
- 38:40You you have tabloids and just outlets who have who don't have
- 38:45the best intentions for Shohei or the game and they're just
- 38:49gonna run with it. So they're going, we have to
- 38:51keep this as airtight as possible.
- 38:53We have to keep his image as clean as possible.
- 38:56So yeah, there probably is a a a a degree of cover up for Major
- 39:00League Baseball and I think that's pretty transparent and it
- 39:04makes sense whether you agree with it or not, that's one
- 39:07thing. But it makes sense if you're the
- 39:09league and you're trying to keep Shohei's image clean also.
- 39:14How? Nice would it be to think like
- 39:16for everyone around you. For them to think that.
- 39:22You don't understand them. To have that cloak of built in
- 39:33privacy, you've been here seven years.
- 39:37There's stories of Ichiro having full on conversations with
- 39:41people back in his playing days. Never once spoke English and
- 39:46oppressor in an interview. I think he knows English.
- 39:53Enough. Really enough.
- 39:56I have a hard time believing that for the duration of time
- 40:01that Shohei was with the Angels. And knowing that the microscope
- 40:06that him and Trout were under for needing to get that team to
- 40:10the postseason, forget the World Series, just get them to the
- 40:13postseason. I would venture to say those
- 40:16guys, they they went through it together.
- 40:18Like we, I know we, we knock on the Angels, we knock on Trout,
- 40:21we knock on Shohei for their inability to to get it done, if
- 40:26you will. But I I would think that over
- 40:30that stretch of time that they probably went out for a few
- 40:33dinners and said, look, we need to let let's, let's get down to
- 40:37the nitty gritty here. Like we need to figure out a
- 40:39plan for this team to lead this team in the direction that it
- 40:43needs to go. I just, I don't see Ipe.
- 40:47I'm sure he was there, but I just don't see Ipe being there
- 40:51translating that conversation verbatim.
- 40:53I just don't see that. I see.
- 40:54I see Shogh and Trott going out having a conversation say hey
- 40:58man, like what do you think? Like here's, here's what I think
- 41:01I can provide. Mike's going, here's what I
- 41:04think I can provide. They they spit ball.
- 41:07That had to have happened and forget team planning, just
- 41:12day-to-day conversation like those all these guys go out on.
- 41:14Road trips and they they go out to dinner together.
- 41:17You tell me. Show his only eats with Ipe.
- 41:20Exactly. The faces of.
- 41:24Baseball. I I think.
- 41:27I I think he. Knows more than he lets on to.
- 41:31Mm hmm, so. Kind of wrapping it up here, at
- 41:34least for this particular topic, Where where do you stand on
- 41:37Shohei 'cause I think, I think following the The Soul series,
- 41:41if I recall. I don't want to.
- 41:43I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I think you were
- 41:45of the belief that Shohei was the one that was responsible for
- 41:48these bets. In that.
- 41:51Not that he paid them, but that he was the one with the motive
- 41:55to gamble. And there's.
- 41:59Still, yes. I kind of still feel that way.
- 42:01I still feel like it's slightly there because there is still
- 42:08the. The unchecked.
- 42:11Box of the fact of. No one if it pays.
- 42:15Salaries getting that line of credit.
- 42:24No one's getting that. Line of credit.
- 42:28No one's letting. Millions of dollars roll over.
- 42:34So I don't know, You give me a gift card to go buy something at
- 42:42the store. Yeah, I'm buying it.
- 42:50You gave me the gift. Card.
- 42:52I don't know, man. Like, there's there's this Gray
- 42:56area here and it just say blame it on the loss in translation.
- 43:01Nonsense. I I I don't know.
- 43:10Maybe. Maybe Ipe was placed in bets for
- 43:12him. I still think it's a
- 43:14possibility. I am less on that on that train.
- 43:17I am more in the camp of. I do think Ohtani knew about
- 43:21Ipe. I think he knew about the debts.
- 43:23I think he's paid them himself. I think he's made those payments
- 43:26for sure. I think that's where.
- 43:28I've settled for now. They just probably didn't
- 43:31realize that it was. Legal or illegal, I think.
- 43:34I think that's where I've I've settled.
- 43:35I I just. I I know that a lot of it is
- 43:39because of the league. Like there's that.
- 43:42Like I'm looking at it. Through that lens, through the
- 43:44through the Rose colored glasses that Major League Baseball has
- 43:47handed us as baseball fans. To say hey, look.
- 43:50How great this guy is. Mm hmm.
- 43:53I have enough. Sense.
- 43:54To be able to take those off and look at Shohei for who he is and
- 43:59how he's always been, how he presents himself, he's always
- 44:02been that. Guy, I just have a.
- 44:04Really hard time think believing that.
- 44:07That he would. Be some sort of mastermind to a
- 44:11plan like this. I I genuinely think he just got
- 44:15caught up in some he did something illegal.
- 44:19He didn't know it was illegal and in reality he was doing it.
- 44:23Probably a selfless way of helping his friend.
- 44:26And didn't have. The counsel around him to guide
- 44:30him out of the situation before it got to be too much.
- 44:34Or he's like. I'm not continuing on with this
- 44:38journey without my boy, so I'm ignoring counsel and I'm paying
- 44:43this anyway. Also a.
- 44:47Possibility. I don't know.
- 44:49But that's that's basically what we got for now.
- 44:53Again, I didn't. I I didn't think we'd be
- 44:56spending basically an episode and a half on show.
- 44:59Hey, gambling scandal. But here we are.
- 45:02Obviously it's what what the entire baseball world's talking
- 45:05about and for a good reason. Like, it's a big deal and we can
- 45:09sit here and and make jokes about how certain fans are are
- 45:15rooting for his downfall and everything.
- 45:17But like this there, there are a lot of there.
- 45:22There's a lot at stake here for baseball in general and talking
- 45:27about a precedent being laid. And if you're rooting for his.
- 45:30Downfall You're not a baseball fan.
- 45:34You're a reality. TV fan or Yeah?
- 45:37Or you're just a Padre or or Giants fan.
- 45:39I don't know. Which just, I don't know.
- 45:42Feels. Don't, Don't.
- 45:43Even I'm not even. Please don't tell me that
- 45:47baseball has not grown and gotten better since he's got
- 45:51here. You're just you're wrong.
- 45:56He's. The best thing that's happened
- 45:59to baseball in a long time. So do I understand the cover up?
- 46:04Yeah, I'm going to sit here and say there isn't a cover up.
- 46:09No. So whoever's going.
- 46:13To UC Riverside. Let me know if there's a new new
- 46:17library that pops up next year. Giant anonymous donation.
- 46:25I need that. Security footage of that that
- 46:28duffel bag of cash being dropped dropped outside the dining hall
- 46:32at 2:30. AM I'm gonna need that?
- 46:35Let's let's talk about some some other baseball things here,
- 46:39shall we? Let's switch gears.
- 46:41We can we can run through some of these items 'cause I really
- 46:43just wanted to wrap up talking a little bit about opening day,
- 46:47opening week and and the excitement that surrounds that.
- 46:51So let's start here at the top. Ross Rockies extend their
- 46:57shortstop to Ezekiel Tovar. Yeah, to A.
- 47:02Seven-year extension where 63 1/2 mil could be a total of 84
- 47:08if the option is exercised according to L Extra Base, which
- 47:13gotta love that name by the way. I feel like this is.
- 47:17Quick this was a quick trigger. Not as.
- 47:21Quick As was the Brewers that extended a minor leaguer over
- 47:28the offseason. Remember that?
- 47:31Yeah, the. Tigers did as well.
- 47:33The Tigers. Tigers locked up.
- 47:37What is it? What is his name?
- 47:40Oh, it's right there, Colt Keith.
- 47:46Is that who you're talking about?
- 47:47Yeah. Not as this isn't as early as
- 47:50that. I I don't know, man.
- 47:58He's he's literally 162 games in played, 153 last year.
- 48:03Nine games in in 2022. I'm in 70.
- 48:13Six OP Plus guy. To his credit.
- 48:17Rockies, albeit a young franchise, they've had some
- 48:20dudes come through there and he's put his name up there with
- 48:24the best of them as a rookie. Todd Todd Hilton's rookie record
- 48:31for double S He broke Troy Tulowitzki's fielding percentage
- 48:40by a rookie shortstop with a mark of 988, topping Tulow's 987
- 48:47back in O7. He's the youngest player to
- 48:51debut in club history at 21 years and 53 days.
- 48:58So, I mean, you're. Getting ahead of the curve.
- 48:59I I don't think it needed to happen this quickly.
- 49:03I think you could have gone. One more year or even like half
- 49:07a. Season.
- 49:08Yeah. Maybe just a little breathe a
- 49:09little bit. Yeah, I don't.
- 49:11Know, I get. I mean, this is, this is how
- 49:15teams like that are gonna have to operate.
- 49:18You have to. You're gonna have to.
- 49:19Strike gold with somebody and extend them young.
- 49:24Hopefully it's. During a window.
- 49:28Hopefully they all hit. Their prime fill in the gaps of
- 49:31the vets. Make a run.
- 49:35I feel like that's the. Blueprint.
- 49:37Yeah, and. But a possible outcome of that
- 49:42blueprint, and it it's the case for any team, no team is immune
- 49:45to this. You're gonna take a chance on a
- 49:48guy like this and it's gonna be a flop and it's gonna be
- 49:51considered a bad contract. The the aim for these teams,
- 49:55however, is minimizing. The amount of money, that's.
- 50:01Coming out of their pocket, but maximizing the value or the deal
- 50:08that they can, they can lock up as early as they can without it
- 50:12being just yeah. An erratic.
- 50:15Move like they you got to there. There's a a recipe there and I
- 50:20think the Braves have done a a fabulous job of this.
- 50:23We've we've talked about that all the time of.
- 50:27Getting it early. Enough, but waiting long enough
- 50:31and offering. The amount of money, that's.
- 50:34Going to help the team out the most we've been, we've been on
- 50:37record as saying before that we think there's a little element
- 50:40of Hwy. robbery going on from the from the player's point of
- 50:43view, but from a team point of view, the Braves are doing.
- 50:49A fantastic. Job of that.
- 50:50So I think you're right. I think this is the blueprint
- 50:53that's continued to be laid out and and tried by these teams,
- 51:00the Brewers, the Tigers, some others.
- 51:03I think the Red Sox are even trying to dabble into that a
- 51:05little bit with, you know, names like Brian Baio.
- 51:08They're talking a little bit with Tristan Cassis.
- 51:10This is a new thing. And I think this is probably
- 51:14why. We've seen.
- 51:17A weird market with free agency, I think.
- 51:22I think teams are recognizing that.
- 51:24Like you could probably piece that together with what you
- 51:27already have in house and you can probably commit.
- 51:31I'd rather the commitment to a younger player is going to is
- 51:36going to just become more and more popular.
- 51:40I'd rather pay you early and take a risk.
- 51:44But not that big of. A risk instead of signing
- 51:47someone that's 3132 multi year deal and paying them for what
- 51:53they've done with a different organization.
- 51:56This is going to be the. New the new thing.
- 52:02Personally, I love. It I mean, I I I've sat on here
- 52:05before. Yeah, I've sat on here before.
- 52:07I like guys being around like I I just hate young, old in the
- 52:15middle, in their prime. I just.
- 52:16I like guys being able to be around for the long haul, guys
- 52:20that that fans can latch on to. That's why with like a college
- 52:23basketball model, I I love A-Team like UNC where you just
- 52:27know that their guys majority of their guys are going to be
- 52:30around. Compare that to the likes of
- 52:32Duke. Not the same situation, but
- 52:35bring it back to baseball. It's it's a pretty, I don't want
- 52:42to say risk free blueprint, but. If you're able to get them.
- 52:47Early enough for an amount of money that's so inconsequential
- 52:52and will prove to be even more inconsequential as time goes on
- 52:58and the average contract goes up.
- 53:00That money that you're spending now, AAV, it's gonna be
- 53:03different. So even up front you're going,
- 53:05eh, it's not that much money. But even what I'm saying is down
- 53:08the road you're gonna look at that and go like, yeah, we
- 53:10missed, but we're not. Whatever, it's only for 60.
- 53:14We're not spending. 9 digits on the guy.
- 53:16So I it's a pretty, I don't say foolproof, but I think it's a a
- 53:21good approach and I I just hope it doesn't get abused.
- 53:25Which I say. That I know it will.
- 53:28This seems a. Little close.
- 53:33Borderline. Yeah, but.
- 53:35But maybe it is the? It is the projection of seeing
- 53:38like, you know, like OK, how do we get, how do we get Ronald
- 53:43Acuna to commit before he breaks into the scene as Ronald Acuna,
- 53:49You know what I mean? And that comes down to scouting,
- 53:51which I love, comes down to front office really knowing
- 53:56their, their, their, their development and their group.
- 53:59And I like that. I think that this is how teams.
- 54:06Small market if you. Will will have to manage going
- 54:09forward. Which I did see.
- 54:11A lot of people going, why would you want to commit to the
- 54:14Rockies for that long? I think this is just I I don't
- 54:18know. I don't know the guy from Adam.
- 54:19But I would venture to say this is just a an instance of a of a
- 54:23kid, a young kid going, wow, that's life changing money.
- 54:28The team that I'm. With is expressing faith in me,
- 54:32I'm going to take it, and probably didn't think about it
- 54:35much more than that also. He's.
- 54:41How old? Last year was 21 and I mentioned
- 54:49his his debut is 21 and 53 days. Yeah, that's why.
- 54:54'Cause you're hitting the market again at 29.
- 54:58Big whoop. Good for him.
- 55:05Hope the Rockies are right. Get used to seeing.
- 55:09This more often. Speaking of seeing things more
- 55:15often, deja vu, I feel like we got the announcements,
- 55:21ironically, that the Dodgers and Cubs are gonna be opening up the
- 55:272025 season in Japan. So, not quite Korea, but
- 55:32essentially the same thing in terms of time zones, yeah.
- 55:39Better get ready to. Wake up at 3:00 AM again.
- 55:42I will not. Cubs.
- 55:44Dodgers, Cubs. Dodgers.
- 55:46Next year, it wasn't. Even it wasn't even.
- 55:48The. Announcement it was, it was the.
- 55:51The announcement. Of the announcement, if that
- 55:54makes sense. It was reported by Bob
- 55:59Nightingale that the Cubs and Dodgers were, quote, privately
- 56:05informed. That they were.
- 56:08Selected to open the 2025 season in Tokyo.
- 56:13Cover up. So yeah.
- 56:21Why? Let's give the Japanese market
- 56:25something to talk about other than Shouhei.
- 56:30Let's give them. Something else to play with.
- 56:33Let's give them another toy. Let's give them another
- 56:36distraction. Let's give you something to work
- 56:39towards. Let's yeah.
- 56:42Mm hmm. I don't.
- 56:43Know how, I don't know how long. That dog will be.
- 56:48Able to feed on that bone. It's, it's.
- 56:51Just this is a this is a stop gap until you find something
- 56:54else about IPA. IPA's.
- 56:58Really Australian. And he broke out of prison.
- 57:02Ten years ago. That's what we're gonna find
- 57:04something out. That's just nuts.
- 57:08IPA killed his whole family, changed his name, put on that
- 57:13that wig that he calls Hare and started becoming an interpreter.
- 57:19That hair's tough dude. It's a tough hair go, dude.
- 57:21It's a tough hair. I mean you and I, you and I are
- 57:24struggling with our our own hair issues, so this is a cover up.
- 57:30Yeah, it's the it's all, it's so right in front of us.
- 57:37MLB, just doing. Whatever they can.
- 57:39Yeah. I mean I you.
- 57:40And I and I think a lot of other people can acknowledge that yes,
- 57:43there is some, there is some cover up happening.
- 57:48It's just a matter of which side you believe is doing the
- 57:50covering up and who it's covering up.
- 57:54I think the the. Cover up aspect of it though, is
- 57:57about as transparent as it could be, yeah.
- 58:00That's with any of this. Stuff, Yeah.
- 58:03But anyway, is it? Is it?
- 58:04The same. I'm assuming the same dates go
- 58:07there, come back for a week the report that I.
- 58:11Read said that I got it right here, it says.
- 58:13Nightingale added that since the Cubs have spring training in
- 58:17Arizona, they would return to Arizona after their opening
- 58:20series against the Dodgers and quote open their domestic season
- 58:24on the West Coast before heading home to Chicago.
- 58:29So. Based on that, it sounds like.
- 58:33Yeah. Smart.
- 58:36That's what I'm. That's what I'm gathering
- 58:38smarter than this. If that is true, it is from
- 58:41Nightingale. Enough said, We'll.
- 58:52Leave it at that, just a couple more items here so it makes so
- 58:56much. Sense.
- 58:57It makes so much sense. It's all there.
- 58:59How do we We have we have America controlled.
- 59:02How do we control Japan? Let's give them the opening
- 59:06series of next year. I gotta give Robbie Manfred some
- 59:12credit. The dude gave us his ETA on when
- 59:18he's out of here and then this falls in his lap and he's like,
- 59:22I didn't want to deal with this. This is nuts.
- 59:29Man, it's crazy. I don't want.
- 59:31To talk about it anymore, though?
- 59:32Me neither. I want to talk about.
- 59:34Another conspiracy Trevor Bauer. He threw 3 scoreless right 3
- 59:43scorers, allowed four hits, three KS and two walks against
- 59:46the Yankees. The big, bad Bronx Bombers, who
- 59:49featured probably like 98% minor leaguers.
- 59:54No, I don't. I don't.
- 59:55I didn't watch the outing. I think it was.
- 59:59Stanton Volpe. Oh, so they they had some, had
- 1:00:04some dudes in there. Was Waldo Cabrera?
- 1:00:07Maybe that's about it. Everything else way down.
- 1:00:11I was more excited to see Canogo.
- 1:00:12Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was that?
- 1:00:14About man, I didn't realize the guy was still playing.
- 1:00:16I thought he was in the. I think this is the new.
- 1:00:18Thing. I think you signed like a a week
- 1:00:21contract or three day contract with these teams knowing that an
- 1:00:27MLB team is going to be playing against you.
- 1:00:29You know what I mean? There's little stuff like that.
- 1:00:34I think this. This is going to be a thing
- 1:00:36moving forward too, But wasn't he?
- 1:00:38In that United league or whatever over in, this might be
- 1:00:43the offseason. Oh, true.
- 1:00:46Yeah, what do they call? That it's the United League.
- 1:00:51Is it united? Or like United.
- 1:00:53Baseball or something, Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
- 1:00:59Whatever. Bower's.
- 1:01:01Bower's Bower Man. Baseball United.
- 1:01:03Sorry. That's what it is.
- 1:01:08And what we're talking about him?
- 1:01:09Too. Let's talk Jackson Holiday it.
- 1:01:14Was announced by the. Baltimore Orioles Dude, I feel
- 1:01:16like with with Ryan Ripken and company that I follow on social.
- 1:01:23I feel like I know you know about the.
- 1:01:25I know more about the I've gotten more content about the
- 1:01:29Baltimore Orioles. Yeah.
- 1:01:32Even just this? Offseason that I think I have
- 1:01:34into my entire life, Yeah, it's fair.
- 1:01:37Probably about right as as have I so.
- 1:01:42Related to that, it was announced that Jack's holiday
- 1:01:46would be starting the 2024 season in AAA, much to the.
- 1:01:54Displeasure. Of Orioles fans, and I think a
- 1:01:57lot of baseball fans, too. I I don't.
- 1:02:02I don't really. Know how to feel about it like I
- 1:02:04think I think the easy I don't want to say lazy answers like oh
- 1:02:10what's going on man he should be starting in he should be at
- 1:02:14Camden Yards for opening day. I don't know if it's that easy
- 1:02:17like yeah he he he tore it up this spring but I think if
- 1:02:21you're if you're Mike Elias and he he commented on it saying
- 1:02:26that basically like. Let's.
- 1:02:30Chill, he's. Played like just over a dozen
- 1:02:32games at AAA. Let's let's not.
- 1:02:36Let's not rush to things here. Let him let.
- 1:02:41Him cook a little longer, man. Let him grow up.
- 1:02:44Yeah, yeah. And.
- 1:02:47I think I was. Was it that he struggled
- 1:02:51against? Was it?
- 1:02:56Lefties. I'm guessing it was lefties.
- 1:02:58He had 15 strikeouts. I don't know how many, what the
- 1:03:02what the breakdown of that was. I think they did.
- 1:03:06Say somebody on on Ryan's show said that like six of those
- 1:03:16strikeouts were in his first seven at bats or something like
- 1:03:19that. Yeah, so.
- 1:03:20It wasn't, like a lot of. Early struggle.
- 1:03:23But like, I don't know, man. Why?
- 1:03:26Like, why rush it? I don't think there's any need.
- 1:03:31The Orioles are in prime position.
- 1:03:33They're in great shape. Plenty to work.
- 1:03:37With. No need to rush.
- 1:03:39Anything. Let him cook.
- 1:03:43Let him. Let him get comfortable because
- 1:03:46the the alternate is you bring him up too early and then you
- 1:03:49rock his confidence because he struggles.
- 1:03:51You know what I mean? And then?
- 1:03:53Send it back down. Like I Well, I think we fall in
- 1:03:56love. There's there's an anxiety of
- 1:03:59like this season starting, but we're so in love with.
- 1:04:04Making. The MLB roster out of camp.
- 1:04:07We're so in love with the Opening Day starter.
- 1:04:11We're so in love with these things.
- 1:04:13We're like, we quickly forget and are quickly reminded that
- 1:04:17it's a marathon and not a Sprint.
- 1:04:21And I I think that's the difference between like
- 1:04:23overreaction overreactionary fans versus, you know, people in
- 1:04:29the league or around the league that understand that's like,
- 1:04:31dude, just, it's fine, it's March.
- 1:04:35The kids 12. Like, give him a freaking
- 1:04:38chance. Just let him settle in for a
- 1:04:42SEC. He'll be fine.
- 1:04:45In the meantime, we're gonna go bang and probably win some ball
- 1:04:49games without him. So what's the big deal?
- 1:04:54There's no need to rush it. Well, that brings.
- 1:04:59Us to our last topic of discussion.
- 1:05:02I just wanted to you know preview, preview the start of
- 1:05:07the season here a little bit. I wanted to get your take
- 1:05:10specifically. I know last, I think it was last
- 1:05:13episode where I mentioned to you, and I know you would you
- 1:05:17would you have seen the tweet? Where I just.
- 1:05:21Put out a list of it was I think I titled it players that I'm
- 1:05:26that I believe in in 2024. I wanted to get your take on
- 1:05:30some guys that you're 'cause I know I know for the predictions
- 1:05:34and or the hot takes and predictions episode we just we
- 1:05:39tapped into some awards and things like that.
- 1:05:41But I wanted to get your take on maybe some guys that maybe you
- 1:05:46don't necessarily think are gonna bring home any hardware
- 1:05:49or? Or light the league.
- 1:05:51On fire, but just guys that you know you're excited about.
- 1:05:56As we. Approach Opening Day.
- 1:05:58Just prime. Doesn't matter anybody.
- 1:06:01Yeah. Guys, you may think.
- 1:06:03Have a might have a resurgence some young guys that you believe
- 1:06:08in. I can.
- 1:06:11I'll just to one buy you some time, but also to refresh maybe
- 1:06:17some people who didn't recall me sharing my list and just to kind
- 1:06:23of show you the variety that I feel like I was working with
- 1:06:26like I wasn't just going for. All Star after all. * but my
- 1:06:31list of guys that I'm that I'm a believer in, like it literally
- 1:06:36says. It says I'm a believer, says
- 1:06:40Gunnar Henderson, Trevor Story, Hassan Kim, Bryson Stott,
- 1:06:45Brandon Fought, Galebre Torres. And like I said, that list can
- 1:06:50expand. These are just gut.
- 1:06:51React like gut feelings, just just firing from the hip.
- 1:06:55Just guys that I have a good feeling about in 2024, yeah.
- 1:07:04I I. The first one that comes off the
- 1:07:06top of my head, I I would say, I think Ryan McMahon of the
- 1:07:11Rockies. Seems to.
- 1:07:13Be in this position where like he he could play well in the
- 1:07:18first half and. And and.
- 1:07:21Find himself. Making.
- 1:07:25An impact somewhere if they don't extend him and if he moves
- 1:07:30on into a new, a new spot, 'cause I mean, he plays multiple
- 1:07:34positions, a lefty bat, I I don't know, there's something
- 1:07:38there. A little.
- 1:07:44Maybe possible resurgence out of Jack Flaherty being in Detroit.
- 1:07:49Like just having like. You know, out of the.
- 1:07:53Spotlight out of the pressure, having a full offseason, you
- 1:07:57know, I do think that there's some weird stuff going on in
- 1:08:00Saint Louis. So like, maybe it was just good
- 1:08:02for him to fresh start, new faces, you know, just get
- 1:08:07something out of there. Glaber is definitely on my list.
- 1:08:15Just going to play for, you know.
- 1:08:19He wants to be a. Yankee for life and I think he's
- 1:08:21going to play for an extension, think he's going to have a good
- 1:08:24year. He's, I think he's settled into
- 1:08:26who he is as a hitter defender. He's very good at second base.
- 1:08:34Give me Wilson Contreras coming back a little bit, shaking off
- 1:08:38some of the the weirdness of last year.
- 1:08:42Honestly, I don't know. Maybe like a?
- 1:08:46Tyler O'Neill going to Boston and like having an opportunity
- 1:08:50to have the, you know, the monster that you can just pepper
- 1:08:53all day. He's got a lot of juice, man.
- 1:08:56And. Just just.
- 1:08:59Again, not hardware, but like you know kind of coming back
- 1:09:03onto the scene a little bit, you think of pitcher wise, pitcher
- 1:09:09wise. I'm pretty big on Gavin Stone
- 1:09:14being the 5th starter with LA. I I think, I think they really
- 1:09:19know, I think the Dodgers know what they're doing, man.
- 1:09:22And I don't know if he's going to do as well as Bobby Miller
- 1:09:25did say last year, but. I think you're gonna see.
- 1:09:30Some production there. Luis Heel coming in as the 5th
- 1:09:35starter with the Yankees. Like a full.
- 1:09:39Offseason off of TJ He's got crazy, crazy stuff.
- 1:09:44Believed in him so much he added him in fantasy.
- 1:09:47I saw that. I sure did.
- 1:09:48I sure did. Trying to work my way.
- 1:09:53Around the league as much as I can.
- 1:09:56Some more comprehensive lists than I put together.
- 1:09:59I'm just. Firing from the hip for real,
- 1:10:01dude. That's literally.
- 1:10:02What I did and like I said, my these lists, these lists can
- 1:10:05change throughout the season, yeah.
- 1:10:09Yeah. What do we got?
- 1:10:13I don't know. Maybe Jared?
- 1:10:20Kalnick being in a in a Braves uniform.
- 1:10:23Being in a super deep lineup. Rough spring, though, but Tay
- 1:10:28Oscar came out. And said he didn't see things
- 1:10:31well in Seattle. He just didn't pick up the ball
- 1:10:34well there and maybe some something similar for Kelnick,
- 1:10:39you know then being in a lineup of just pure hitters.
- 1:10:44Maybe. Maybe there's.
- 1:10:45Some, you know, some resurgence there.
- 1:10:47And like, I think that's probably why the Braves made
- 1:10:50that move. It's a super high ceiling.
- 1:10:55Yeah. How am I doing?
- 1:10:57I'm. Doing good, that's fantastic.
- 1:11:01You can bouncing around a little bit.
- 1:11:03You can pause it there if you'd like, or you can keep going if
- 1:11:06you got more. There was no.
- 1:11:08There's no expectation for how long this list needed to be.
- 1:11:12But I feel like you reeled off some.
- 1:11:13Great names like again, not guys that you're expecting to have
- 1:11:17MVP caliber seasons, maybe not even All Stars.
- 1:11:20Yeah, but not even All Stars. But guys that you're just
- 1:11:22excited about, and I would, I would challenge you, the
- 1:11:25listener, to come to compile your own list.
- 1:11:27Maybe. Maybe heck even pull up the
- 1:11:31notes app on your phone and and compile a list and that way you
- 1:11:34can have some names. We're always we're always
- 1:11:37promoting like yes follow your team like we believe in that
- 1:11:41that's what you should do as a as a baseball fan as and as a
- 1:11:44fan of the team that you follow. But we're we also always promote
- 1:11:48like tapping in around the league a little bit and so as we
- 1:11:54come up on opening day maybe take the next couple days to to
- 1:12:00think about some some guys, some teams that you want to follow
- 1:12:03this year as as the season progresses and I'm telling you
- 1:12:06it, it makes for a more enjoyable.
- 1:12:09Baseball viewing. Experience because when your
- 1:12:12team is out of it by may. It's nice to.
- 1:12:18Not that you necessarily got to jump ship, but it's nice to have
- 1:12:20something to tune into it at different times of the year.
- 1:12:23So how about getting past? Quentino Oh, that's a great.
- 1:12:29Pick. That's a That's a good pick.
- 1:12:31I think we forgot how. Much pop that guy has you you
- 1:12:34gave him. Some love in the In the Hot text
- 1:12:36and predictions episode, so I I can vouch that you were a
- 1:12:39believer in him. That's it.
- 1:12:42But but looking ahead to Opening Day, opening weekend.
- 1:12:48Just. A a refresher for those who
- 1:12:52maybe don't know what's going on around the league.
- 1:12:54We've got the Brewers at the Mets.
- 1:12:56We've got the Angels at the OS. We've got the Braves at the
- 1:13:01Phillies. Oh yeah.
- 1:13:02Buckle up for that one. We've got the.
- 1:13:04Gnats at the Reds. We've got the Giants at the
- 1:13:07Padres, Cardinals at the Dodgers, Blue Jays, at the Rays,
- 1:13:14Twins at the Royals, Tigers at the White Sox.
- 1:13:19Pirates at the. Marlins, Yankees in Houston,
- 1:13:23Cubs in Texas, Guardians in Oakland.
- 1:13:28Rockies. In Arizona and the Red Sox in
- 1:13:32Seattle. Love it so that's.
- 1:13:35What we had to look forward to, I'm going.
- 1:13:38To need some. Fireworks right out of the gate
- 1:13:42in in Philly. I'm going to need that, yeah.
- 1:13:46I know, I know. Not.
- 1:13:48I was going to say, have we seen?
- 1:13:49Soto in Houston since I mean I of course we have, but have we
- 1:13:55seen like on that stage with that many eyes like that could
- 1:13:58be interesting. I mean, that's not since the
- 1:14:03World Series, right? Yeah.
- 1:14:07I'm sure they I'm. I don't know.
- 1:14:11That could be interesting. But yeah, Philly is going to be
- 1:14:14It's in Philly. Yeah, who?
- 1:14:20I'm sure they remember Soto in in Houston very well.
- 1:14:24Yeah, yeah, have. You been Have you been eyeing
- 1:14:28any Any tickets? Any games anywhere?
- 1:14:31Not Opening Day, but following I'd I.
- 1:14:36I think I mentioned on here, I did take a peek at Philly just
- 1:14:39because of the like that match up and I think that's one of the
- 1:14:42better match ups in baseball. And I I thought more.
- 1:14:46About it, I don't know. If I've been to an opening day,
- 1:14:50I don't think I. Was old enough to.
- 1:14:51Remember I I may Dad may have taken me as a kid.
- 1:14:54I honestly can't remember. But.
- 1:14:57May have been to an Orioles one back in the day, yeah.
- 1:15:00That's kind of what? I was thinking.
- 1:15:02If I had been, but yeah, afternoon.
- 1:15:05Baseball, though, on a Thursday that The Jets flying over.
- 1:15:11All the, all the. The banner things out.
- 1:15:14Yeah. Oh yeah, The.
- 1:15:15Bunting. Love that, man.
- 1:15:18Take the day off from work. I'm about it.
- 1:15:23But yeah, haven't haven't poked around any tickets yet.
- 1:15:28Which reminds me a. Little, nice little.
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- 1:15:55souvenir soda or souvenir soda. Not both.
- 1:16:00Well, maybe both. Maybe you get a good deal
- 1:16:02somewhere. I don't know.
- 1:16:02They're some ballparks still still operate with reason.
- 1:16:07Not all of them, but some. I will be.
- 1:16:10I won't be obviously Opening Day, but I will be catching the
- 1:16:14Yankees here in in Phoenix next week.
- 1:16:18Week from. Tomorrow.
- 1:16:23That one over, really. Well, didn't it?
- 1:16:26With the brand new. Wife.
- 1:16:28Yeah. No.
- 1:16:30Yeah. No, it sure didn't.
- 1:16:31Yeah, it's all right. Not great.
- 1:16:37What a what a heck of a stretch, though.
- 1:16:41I'll be golfing. Before my wedding, getting
- 1:16:43married on Saturday. That little mini honeymoon for
- 1:16:47two days, Yankees the day after. And a bad stretch.
- 1:16:54For the kid, not a bad. Stretch for the kid.
- 1:16:57Gotta love that. That's coming up, man.
- 1:17:01It it that's a life changing experience coming up for you, my
- 1:17:05friend. That's exciting.
- 1:17:08Those of you listening? Send your Send your love.
- 1:17:11Send your support to old old Knight Reyes and I don't know
- 1:17:14maybe ready to check out the registry while you're at it?
- 1:17:17Who knows? There you go.
- 1:17:19Truck down the link. Or maybe hit me up.
- 1:17:21I I can send you the link. Maybe.
- 1:17:23Maybe we help the kid out, huh. How about it?
- 1:17:27Anything else about opening Day, opening week you wanted to touch
- 1:17:30on before we get out of here? That's it, man.
- 1:17:34That's all I got. Obviously the the first time my
- 1:17:37my Opening Day weekend is jam packed with wedding stuff.
- 1:17:42I think the Yankees go seven straight games without a day off
- 1:17:47and I'm like do they really? Well, that'd be nice.
- 1:17:49Do they not get? The I don't think they get the
- 1:17:53Friday off. I don't think they do.
- 1:17:58That's tough, man. It's, it's quite a stretch,
- 1:18:01right? It's kind of cool, yeah.
- 1:18:02And then of course, I'm busy. Yeah, they go Thursday, Friday,
- 1:18:06Saturday, Sunday. Monday, Tuesday.
- 1:18:10Wednesday. Houston and.
- 1:18:14Then and then Arizona. I like that though.
- 1:18:18I like the I'm an anti Friday off day kind of guy.
- 1:18:23Don't get me hyped up for for opening day and then give me
- 1:18:27four teams to watch. Stop doing that.
- 1:18:31Yeah, let's. Let's not do that, yeah.
- 1:18:34Yeah, that's it, man. Other than that.
- 1:18:40Please don't. Judge me for how uneducated I'll
- 1:18:45be for the next month or so. I'll do my best.
- 1:18:50It's got. A lot going on.
- 1:18:52Yeah, which reminds me last thing before we get out of here,
- 1:18:54what update on what what we can expect from from old Nate Reyes
- 1:19:00for the next are, are we maybe getting you getting one more
- 1:19:02from you or you think you think at least one maybe?
- 1:19:05Two. OK.
- 1:19:07I won't push you to two, but one.
- 1:19:09One would be nice. But I don't want to.
- 1:19:10I don't want to get in you any more trouble than you already
- 1:19:13are for the Yankees game. So yeah, that.
- 1:19:16Still smoothing that over. Gotta do what you gotta do,
- 1:19:21right? We'll figure it out.
- 1:19:24We'll figure. Out a schedule, but other than
- 1:19:27that, I think, I think that's all we got, yes.
- 1:19:30That's it. Enjoy opening day everybody, for
- 1:19:35my fellow father wears Happy Easter and don't go chasing
- 1:19:40curveballs. Love you all and as.
- 1:19:42Always looking forward to talking more baseball with you
- 1:19:44guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.