Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Expanding Maternal Care Access with Partum Health with Meghan Doyle
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- 0:38This is Laura Dierda with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:40podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:42Megan Doyle, chief executive officer at Partum Health.
- 0:45Megan, it's a pleasure to have you on
- 0:46the podcast today. Excited to be here, Laura.
- 0:48Thanks so much for having me. Absolutely. Well,
- 0:51I'm excited for our conversation. And, you know,
- 0:53I think there's a lot happening in the
- 0:55health care space, and so it'll be great
- 0:56to learn a little bit more about Partum
- 0:58Health and how you're thinking about the future.
- 1:00But before we dive in, can you tell
- 1:01us a little bit more about yourself and
- 1:03the organization?
- 1:04Happy to. Yeah. So Partum Health is a
- 1:07maternal and family care organization,
- 1:09and our focus is really uniquely on
- 1:13complementing the care that most families receive from
- 1:15their OB and midwife with a range of
- 1:18specialty support
- 1:20that we know really helps improve outcomes
- 1:23and,
- 1:24creates a better patient experience.
- 1:26And so that includes areas
- 1:28that are are common gaps in the maternal
- 1:30and family care experience, including
- 1:33behavioral health support,
- 1:35lactation,
- 1:36nutrition,
- 1:37physical therapy,
- 1:39and also nonclinical
- 1:40care, in the form of birth and postpartum
- 1:42doula support.
- 1:44We are definitely an organization that is
- 1:47believes in blending,
- 1:49the best of technology
- 1:51with in person care. And so our model
- 1:53is hybrid. We do a mix of virtual
- 1:55and in person support and kind of wrap
- 1:58everything with digital care navigation
- 2:00to help make sure patients really are having
- 2:03that frictionless experience and getting to access both
- 2:06preventive and early intervention support in the areas
- 2:10that we focus on.
- 2:11And you also asked a little bit about
- 2:13my background. So I've spent my career largely
- 2:16on the business side of health care,
- 2:18did a lot of work, with payer, provider,
- 2:21and health services organizations,
- 2:24a lot of that during my time at
- 2:25Boston Consulting Group.
- 2:27And then importantly,
- 2:28I'm also a mom of two.
- 2:30And so it's really that experience of starting
- 2:33my own family that helped me identify
- 2:36the opportunity to really better serve,
- 2:39women and their families
- 2:41when it comes to taking care of their
- 2:42whole mental, emotional, and physical health.
- 2:46I love that. That's such a needed service
- 2:48and opportunities
- 2:49for,
- 2:51women, mothers, and families in order to, have
- 2:54healthy and growing,
- 2:56you know, within their own families and lives.
- 2:59So that's great to hear.
- 3:01I'm curious. Can you start off by talking
- 3:03a little bit about an initiative that you've
- 3:04led in the last year? What did you
- 3:06do, and what were the results?
- 3:08Yeah. 2025
- 3:09was a a really big year for Partum.
- 3:12We
- 3:13historically have been serving
- 3:15a mix of patients across different,
- 3:18commercially insured
- 3:20members. And then last year was our first
- 3:23foray into serving patients with Medicaid.
- 3:26So that expansion
- 3:27was really fueled by some of the regulatory
- 3:30changes that are happening in maternal care.
- 3:33We've now moved over the last few years
- 3:35from just a couple of states,
- 3:37particularly providing
- 3:39Medicaid coverage for doula care
- 3:42to now,
- 3:43more than 20 states,
- 3:45where this is becoming
- 3:47really part of the expected
- 3:49and,
- 3:50covered care that families can receive as they
- 3:52go through their pregnancy and postpartum.
- 3:55So for us, that was a a really
- 3:58important opportunity
- 3:59to,
- 4:00move further in the direction of the mission
- 4:02of the organization, which is really to elevate
- 4:04the standard of care for every woman and
- 4:06family,
- 4:07no matter where they live or who pays
- 4:09for their, health insurance
- 4:11so that we're delivering a more consistent
- 4:14kind of gold standard maternal care experience.
- 4:17So for us, that's meant being one of
- 4:19the first providers,
- 4:21in our home state of Illinois to have,
- 4:23you know, a large and growing number of
- 4:25doulas who are providing care,
- 4:27really in partnership with, MCOs, and we're contracted
- 4:30with all the major MCOs here in Illinois.
- 4:34And just the effort to really bring on
- 4:36both the workforce,
- 4:38and and this is a a brand new
- 4:40provider type for a lot of Medicaid plans,
- 4:44which means there's a lot of learning,
- 4:46as you go through all of the,
- 4:48you know, various pieces of credentialing and contracting
- 4:51and, of course, care delivery as well.
- 4:54So this has been a huge, you know,
- 4:56part of our our last year is really
- 4:58getting that inter entire service line, you know,
- 5:02up and running to serve a a segment
- 5:04of the population that, you know, not only
- 5:07needs and deserves this support, but has also
- 5:10shown in
- 5:11a lot of research to really benefit in
- 5:14a differentially positive way from getting that nonclinical
- 5:18care from,
- 5:20trained doulas
- 5:21during their pregnancy, their labor and delivery, and
- 5:23their postpartum.
- 5:25Got it. That makes a lot of sense
- 5:27and is, you know, helpful to understand
- 5:29some of the actions you're being taken, especially
- 5:31given I I know there's a lot of
- 5:32changes in the health care environment around, you
- 5:35know, health care and health care delivery and
- 5:38access and insurance and,
- 5:40especially in in the Medicaid population. So that's
- 5:42helpful to see,
- 5:44how you're able to work with them. Looking
- 5:46ahead, what do you see as being some
- 5:48of the big priorities and headwinds you're focused
- 5:49on for 2026?
- 5:52Yeah.
- 5:53You know, like you said, there's a constant
- 5:55ebb and flow and and sea of change
- 5:57happening in health care. So we very much
- 5:59are, you know, paying attention to both the
- 6:02regulatory environment as well as, you know, practically
- 6:05what's happening on on the ground in the
- 6:07markets where we're serving patients.
- 6:11For us, we,
- 6:12particularly following this expansion to begin serving Medicaid
- 6:16in addition to a commercially insured population,
- 6:19we are forging really exciting partnerships
- 6:22with health systems
- 6:24that are allowing their patients to really experience
- 6:27more of an
- 6:29end to end model of care that blends
- 6:31what they might be getting in clinic and
- 6:34in the hospital
- 6:35with the type of support that they might
- 6:37be receiving
- 6:38from an organization like Partum virtually
- 6:40in home,
- 6:42you know, outside the four walls of the
- 6:44clinic.
- 6:45So we have a couple of partnerships that
- 6:47we were working on in 2025
- 6:49that we are,
- 6:50we haven't yet announced. So stay tuned for
- 6:53the the, you know, exact
- 6:55models and the names, but there's really innovative
- 6:58things coming to market.
- 7:00I think the foundation for that is, you
- 7:02know, whether you're running an OB GYN service
- 7:05line and, you know, seeing the need of
- 7:07your patients or
- 7:09you're more in the, you you know, digital
- 7:11virtual care environment.
- 7:13You know, we all see there's such a
- 7:15need to really step up the level of
- 7:17support that patients,
- 7:20have access to and have access to through
- 7:22their insurance.
- 7:23So it's really exciting. We're gonna be bringing
- 7:26what we call kind of an embedded model
- 7:28of care in partnership with health systems so
- 7:30that there's a lot more continuity between what
- 7:33patients are
- 7:34getting in their communities, in their homes,
- 7:37alongside that traditional care that they are getting,
- 7:40you know, inside a labor and delivery unit.
- 7:42So for us, that's one of the big
- 7:44opportunities that we're very focused on for 2026.
- 7:48You also asked about headwinds, and I think,
- 7:50you know, we can't talk about women's health
- 7:52without, bringing up some of the challenges that
- 7:55persist
- 7:56when it comes to reimbursement
- 7:59in the space.
- 8:00You know, there's been really,
- 8:02really helpful research in the last couple of
- 8:04years that's shown
- 8:06a lot of the starting point for reimbursement,
- 8:09you know, for women's health procedures even relative
- 8:12to a similar,
- 8:14procedure for men. We we tend to be
- 8:16reimbursing at lower rates.
- 8:19We see service lines where we're treating
- 8:21women, you know, as a result,
- 8:24often having more financial constraints.
- 8:27And so one of the things that, you
- 8:28know, we're really focused on is ensuring that
- 8:31the care we're providing is absolutely
- 8:34demonstrating
- 8:35value to the patient in terms of those
- 8:37improved outcomes.
- 8:39And also thinking both about
- 8:41cost as well as continuing
- 8:43to
- 8:45really,
- 8:45you know, fight for improve the value for
- 8:48more equitable reimbursement
- 8:50in the field.
- 8:51So for us, that's probably both, you know,
- 8:53a big part of the opportunity. And, also,
- 8:55we recognize that we're we're starting from a
- 8:58little bit of a disadvantage when it comes
- 9:00to the the reimbursement
- 9:02for
- 9:03a lot of women's health procedures
- 9:05and services relative to,
- 9:08to men's or to other areas, service line
- 9:11areas,
- 9:12where women's health often has to kind of
- 9:15get creative with how we're we're funding and
- 9:17how we're demonstrating,
- 9:19value in terms of cost reduction too.
- 9:22So that's those are our two big priorities
- 9:24for '26 is really focusing on deepening those
- 9:27health system
- 9:28partnerships and the innovative care that we're able
- 9:30to provide in in partnership with our larger
- 9:33health systems,
- 9:35health system partners, and then also being mindful
- 9:37of those reimbursement challenges.
- 9:40I love that. That's so
- 9:42helpful to understand how you're thinking about things
- 9:45and certainly,
- 9:46you know, having those types of priorities,
- 9:49is so important, especially as you get more
- 9:52into thinking about value, thinking about payment. Every
- 9:54dollar is critical in health care and very,
- 9:56very precious. And so,
- 9:58that's really cool to see and think about
- 10:01how you're bringing together both, you know, the
- 10:04current,
- 10:05seeing people in person, seeing people digitally, and
- 10:07and really,
- 10:09opening up and broadening those access points.
- 10:11What do you think will be the hardest
- 10:12thing you'll have to do in the coming
- 10:14year?
- 10:15Yeah. It's,
- 10:17a great question. And building on what I
- 10:18mentioned before, you know, one of the key
- 10:21areas of of growth and expansion for us
- 10:23has been focusing
- 10:24on serving women and families with nonclinical support
- 10:28from,
- 10:29birth and postpartum doulas.
- 10:32And it's a really exciting opportunity
- 10:34to be kind of at the forefront of
- 10:36that adoption,
- 10:38a new provider type, a new form of
- 10:41reimbursement that's coming online for both, patients with
- 10:44Medicaid as well as,
- 10:46in many states, families with commercial insurance are
- 10:48are now,
- 10:50will have access as legislation is being passed
- 10:53to ensure that, you know, doula care kind
- 10:55of falls under that umbrella of covered covered
- 10:58support.
- 11:00The challenging part is that it is a
- 11:02a part of the health care ecosystem that
- 11:05really,
- 11:07doesn't have the same type of infrastructure
- 11:10as many other provider types.
- 11:12And so for us, part of the challenge
- 11:14is,
- 11:15being able to build that infrastructure.
- 11:19So bringing new provider types that,
- 11:22you know, don't have the same kind of
- 11:24training credentials.
- 11:26We have states standing up individual
- 11:29approaches to credentialing
- 11:31these providers in different states.
- 11:34And so it's this dual challenge of being
- 11:36able to both serve patients, to be in
- 11:38market, delivering care,
- 11:41and kind of building and navigating the infrastructure
- 11:44needs for an entirely new part of the
- 11:45workforce,
- 11:47and doing that in parallel. So we're always
- 11:49thinking about both how do we set up,
- 11:52the long term
- 11:54needs for our patients and knowing that we
- 11:56have a huge opportunity to continue to build
- 11:58the supply
- 11:59as well as to build, you know, the
- 12:01technology, the support, the administrative excellence that
- 12:05is needed to really integrate,
- 12:07a more holistic approach to maternal care
- 12:11with, you know, serving patients who need and
- 12:13deserve that help today. So that's probably our
- 12:15big challenge for this year is how do
- 12:16we balance those two things and and kind
- 12:18of keep them moving in concert together.
- 12:22Absolutely. I,
- 12:23love that and and definitely, you know, curious,
- 12:26from your perspective, when you look at those
- 12:28two challenges and think about
- 12:29a patient's and the infrastructure needs from the
- 12:31health care establishment, you know, is there anything
- 12:34new or different that you're going to,
- 12:37try in the next twelve, twenty four months
- 12:39or so to, continue to,
- 12:42you know, meet the needs and and the
- 12:44demands of the market?
- 12:46Yeah. It's interesting. I think
- 12:48this is an area where we have a
- 12:50lot of opportunity
- 12:51to really rapidly test and learn,
- 12:54and a big part of that for us
- 12:56is to develop and and deploy new care
- 12:59models.
- 13:00So that means,
- 13:02you know, what has historically been,
- 13:04patients very much
- 13:07driving and saying, okay. My my friend told
- 13:10me that I need to worry about and
- 13:12think about my pelvic floor and, you know,
- 13:14okay. I scored high on this screening. I'm
- 13:16gonna go find care. It's really about how
- 13:19to help patients
- 13:21navigate that in a more proactive
- 13:24fashion
- 13:25and to build a care model that kind
- 13:27of anticipates those needs from a patient
- 13:30rather than waiting for them to raise their
- 13:33hand or be in a crisis moment when
- 13:35they're seeking that support.
- 13:37And so for us, that's the the thing
- 13:39we're continually innovating on is how do we
- 13:42both educate patients, make them aware, and also
- 13:45build
- 13:46kind of expectations
- 13:47or routines around care,
- 13:50that align and, you know, allow us to
- 13:53be sustainable
- 13:54financially while getting patients this proactive support that
- 13:57they need.
- 13:58So some of the things that we're thinking
- 14:00about on on that patient experience side is
- 14:03whether we can,
- 14:04for example, standardize more proactive,
- 14:07even very brief,
- 14:10engagement with patients to be able to introduce
- 14:12them to
- 14:13kind of the one zero one of perinatal
- 14:16mental health as an example
- 14:18rather than it being, you know, solely relied
- 14:20on needing a pull when somebody has a
- 14:22diagnosis. It's really how do we design,
- 14:25technology and patient engagement and communication such that
- 14:28we're
- 14:29enabling them to take a much more proactive
- 14:31approach,
- 14:32you know, to their care. And that's one
- 14:34of the really exciting things that we see,
- 14:37coming out of our partnerships with health systems
- 14:39is they're really keen to make sure that
- 14:41every patient knows about and has access to,
- 14:45the support services that we know can make
- 14:47a really meaningful difference in in their end
- 14:50outcomes by helping them reduce complications,
- 14:53avoid,
- 14:55you know, injury and,
- 14:57lingering health,
- 14:59outcomes that can really
- 15:01not only impact the immediate postpartum period, but
- 15:04really have an impact on a woman and
- 15:06her family for for years to come.
- 15:09Absolutely. I love that. I I think that
- 15:12is so helpful to hear about it, know
- 15:14those things are in the works, and, you
- 15:16know, that postpartum period is so critical,
- 15:19for so many families.
- 15:20Now anything else you'd like to talk about
- 15:22before we wrap up here in terms of
- 15:24growth? Where are some of the other opportunities
- 15:26that you're seeing in ways that the organization
- 15:28is looking to expand?
- 15:30Yeah. I think the, really exciting part of
- 15:34what I mentioned before about the way that
- 15:35we're working hand in hand
- 15:38with health systems, with inpatient units,
- 15:40you know, that is a
- 15:42a key focus for us going forward because
- 15:45it allows us to really
- 15:47not just address the needs of patients who,
- 15:50you know, happen to find us, but also
- 15:52to create
- 15:53a much more,
- 15:55standard experience for patients
- 15:58in some of these areas where they may
- 16:00not have awareness
- 16:01around, you know, what is my pelvic floor,
- 16:04why should I see a PT,
- 16:06or just the common,
- 16:08occurrence that is that, you know, perinatal mood
- 16:11and anxiety disorders, how commonly they occur,
- 16:13and therefore, why, you know, preventive therapy might
- 16:16be of of benefit for them. So for
- 16:19us, we we are really focused in the
- 16:22coming year on deepening those relationships, on building
- 16:25new partnerships.
- 16:27And it's something actually even at the, you
- 16:29know, last Becker's event that we were at.
- 16:31We heard so much openness and excitement from
- 16:34health system partners who are also recognizing
- 16:37there's so much opportunity to engage with patients
- 16:41outside the four walls of their clinics, of
- 16:43their hospital, and really looking for innovative ways
- 16:46that they can partner with,
- 16:48with startups, with health tech organizations that are
- 16:51are really
- 16:52innovative
- 16:54and complementary
- 16:55to that traditional care system. So for us,
- 16:58that's a big focus in the coming year
- 17:00is is really finding more of those partners
- 17:02who wanna bring that really innovative experience to
- 17:06women and families, and they recognize the importance
- 17:09of this health care consumer, this health care
- 17:11decision maker,
- 17:13and wanna be delivering that that kind of
- 17:15gold standard around this really important moment
- 17:19of building their family, of, you know, starting
- 17:22to decide, okay, this is where we're gonna
- 17:24go for care.
- 17:25So that's probably for us, you know, the
- 17:27biggest opportunity that we see is is just
- 17:30taking this type of support to
- 17:32more patients and doing that in a way
- 17:34that really works hand in hand with the
- 17:36care that they're already receiving,
- 17:39you know, from systems on the ground.
- 17:42I love that. Thank you, Megan, so much
- 17:44for joining us on the podcast today. This
- 17:45has been such a fantastic and informative discussion,
- 17:48and I look forward to connecting with you
- 17:50again soon.
- 17:51Wonderful. Thanks so much, Laura.