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Legally Brunette Presents: ‘Til Death Do Us Part - Bianca & Larry Rudolph · Legally Brunette

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  Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Welcome to an episode of Legally Brunette Present
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  Speaker 1: Till Death Do Us Part where we talk about cases
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  Speaker 1: that involve husbands getting rid of wives and wives getting
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  Speaker 1: rid of husband's I didn't know if we should expand
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  Speaker 1: it into like boyfriend girlfriend relationships, but there are plenty
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  Speaker 1: of husbands and wives out there that are just taking
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  Speaker 1: each other out, so there's not a lack of content. Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Today we are going to discuss This was a three
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  Speaker 1: part series that is on Hulu and it's called Trophy
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  Speaker 1: Wife and it is about Larry Rudolph and Lori mill Iron.
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  Speaker 1: So I watched this a while ago. It was very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Larry Rudolph is quite the character, so we're going to
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  Speaker 1: get into that. So let's just go through like a
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  Speaker 1: brief synopsis to give you a background on what this
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  Speaker 1: case is about. So in October of twenty sixteen, Bianca
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  Speaker 1: Rudolph traveled to Zombia is it Zambia or Zombia This
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  Speaker 1: is Africa with her husband Larry Rudolph for a big
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  Speaker 1: game hunting trip. On the final day, she was found
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  Speaker 1: dead in their cabin from a shotgun wound to the chest.
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  Speaker 1: Larry claimed it was a you're laughing already, yes, shot
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  Speaker 1: to the chest right. Larry claimed it was a tragic
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  Speaker 1: accident that she had accidentally shot herself while packing her
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  Speaker 1: own guy acc Zambian authorities initially accepted this explanation, and
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  Speaker 1: Bianca was quickly cremated.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like you should hold on that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like when you file for divorce in California, waste six
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  Speaker 2: months cooling off period because it's like, hold everything, let's
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  Speaker 2: talk it through and figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: That's media.
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  Speaker 2: They should do that with cremations.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. Soon after returning to the US, Larry collected
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  Speaker 1: nearly five million dollars in life insurance policies taken out
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  Speaker 1: on his wife. However, investigators later uncovered that Larry had
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  Speaker 1: been carrying on a year's law affair with his office manager,
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  Speaker 1: Lori mill Iron, and prosecutors argued he killed Bianca to
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  Speaker 1: be with her and to obtain the insurance money. So
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  Speaker 1: that's a little background on that, you know. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: before we go into this, I just want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about this big game hunting. First of all, I don't
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  Speaker 1: I'm I don't like hunting at all, like it bothers me.
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  Speaker 1: But I do understand that some people enjoy hunting, and
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  Speaker 1: then I do have a respect for people who hunt
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  Speaker 1: and then use the meat, you know, and nature and
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  Speaker 1: you know, they kill a deer, but then they use
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  Speaker 1: all of the deer meat and you know, okay, I
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  Speaker 1: I could never do that personally.
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  Speaker 2: If you saw a rat in their house, you would
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  Speaker 2: pick it up by the tail and put it outside.
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  Speaker 1: I would. I did that. I found a rat in
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  Speaker 1: the backyard that the dogs got to and it wasn't dead,
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  Speaker 1: and I wrapped it up in a towel. I gave
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  Speaker 1: it some cheese. I tried to put it back into
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  Speaker 1: its natural environment. I was very concerned about it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm just saying personally, I could never kill an animal.
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  Speaker 1: An animal, I can't do it. But this big game hunting,
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  Speaker 1: this really bothers me, Like I just find it.
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  Speaker 2: Especially it's like, I mean, these are just my thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: Like if it's like you can afford to travel and
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  Speaker 2: have some tour guye that takes you where it is
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  Speaker 2: where the animals are, Like, that's not where's the sport
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  Speaker 2: in that. When I lived in Utah, I had a
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  Speaker 2: roommate who hunted like kind of casually, not like hardcore.
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  Speaker 2: But he only used a bow and arrow because he thought,
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  Speaker 2: if I can catch a deer with a bow and.
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  Speaker 1: Arrow like the like the Native America, that's a.
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  Speaker 2: Sport, and then I've earned it and it and it
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  Speaker 2: would take him years to because you have to have
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  Speaker 2: a perfect moment, you know, so so, and he never
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  Speaker 2: caught one.
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  Speaker 1: He never killed.
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  Speaker 2: I mean maybe to this day he does. But I
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  Speaker 2: mean like he felt like if you can earn it
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  Speaker 2: and like work hard for it, and then you'd have
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  Speaker 2: more of an appreciation for the venison and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 2: versus say is just kind of well, let's lined up
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  Speaker 2: for you and you just shoot him and you move on.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what, it.
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  Speaker 1: Bothered me that they would call him an expert hunter,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, are you kidding me? This man just
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  Speaker 1: has a lot of money.
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  Speaker 2: It's like people climb Mount Evers now. Now there's so
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  Speaker 2: many people that got mana everest because now it's just
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  Speaker 2: people are like, oh, you can just pay the guide
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  Speaker 2: did the Yeah, you can just pay him and and
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  Speaker 2: they fork out lots of money that really tempt the
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  Speaker 2: sherpas to accept it and then put everyone in danger.
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  Speaker 2: And it's risky and this and that, and it's like,
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  Speaker 2: now it's not like you're with nature now, it's just
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  Speaker 2: like kind of a goal in business. They pay for it.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's what I'm saying about this big game hunting.
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  Speaker 1: It's like they call him an expert shooter, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: all he does is he has money. He flew into town,
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  Speaker 1: so he goes there. They put him in a vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: They drive him out to where he's a very.
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  Speaker 2: Good hunting because he had a tragic accident where he
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  Speaker 2: shot his wife.
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  Speaker 1: Well he didn't, he says, she shot herself. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: they I know. But then you know, they they drive
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  Speaker 1: him out to where a lion is and they're like,
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  Speaker 1: there's the lion.
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  Speaker 2: I tranquilize the lion. He should be waiting for you now,
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  Speaker 2: and then he just shoots the lion.
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  Speaker 1: And then you know, there's all these photos they show
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  Speaker 1: in this documentary of him with all these like majestic,
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  Speaker 1: beautiful animals and they hold their heads up and it's sough.
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  Speaker 1: I just I can't stand it.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, get jellycats and then okay, let's go.
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  Speaker 1: That is if you have a thirteen year old girl,
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  Speaker 1: you don't know what that is in the nineteen eighties.
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  Speaker 1: So Larry Rudolph, this is we're going back to the eighties.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to take a little time travel here. Larry
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  Speaker 1: Rudolph built a successful dental career in the Pittsburgh area
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  Speaker 1: after graduating from the University of Pittsburgh, founding a practice
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  Speaker 1: that emphasized sedation dentistry to ease patient anxiety. Have you
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  Speaker 1: ever heard of this? Because I hate going to the dentists?
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  Speaker 1: Do you like going I can't stand.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like any I do it, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: like it.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a while since you went to the dentists.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, brush my teeth.
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  Speaker 1: I know you brush your teeth, but I'm saying going
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  Speaker 1: to the dentist is stressful, and apparently it's stressful for
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people. So he marketed his He became
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  Speaker 1: very wealthy doing sedation dentistry where he just knocked people
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  Speaker 1: out completely.
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  Speaker 2: Which well, yeah, that's questionable. Well he's very shady.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to get into that too, because not only
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  Speaker 1: was he just like knocking, he was just him. He
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  Speaker 1: did this sedation kind of dentistry, but apparently he also
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  Speaker 1: gave every patient a root canal, like every patient had
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  Speaker 1: to have a root canal. You know, it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you need a root canal. You just came in for
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  Speaker 1: a cleaning, but you need a root canal. So also
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  Speaker 1: his wife, Bianca, whom he met in college, helped support
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  Speaker 1: the business and together they raised two children and what
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  Speaker 1: appeared to be a stable family life. So this is
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  Speaker 1: in the eighties, early on Larry Rudolph. Then in the
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  Speaker 1: early two thousands, we're going to skip ahead, Larry Rudolph
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  Speaker 1: begins an extramarital affair with his dental hygienist and office manager,
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  Speaker 1: Laurie Iron in two thousand and two. You know, also,
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  Speaker 1: though they say in this because they interviewed so many
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  Speaker 1: people that were involved, that worked in his office, that
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  Speaker 1: were business partners with him. Not he has this affair
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  Speaker 1: with this woman named Lori mill Iron. But he was
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  Speaker 1: a womanizer. He's married to Bianca and he never wants
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  Speaker 1: to divorce Bianca. That's his wife and the mother of
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  Speaker 1: his children. But I guess he hit on everything in
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  Speaker 1: anyone around. He hit on patience. All the workers in
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  Speaker 1: his office, they all were blonde and attractive, and he
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  Speaker 1: hit on them. And I don't know, he was just
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  Speaker 1: he was one of those kind of guys. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what you call him, but he just he had
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  Speaker 1: lots of affairs. He was always he is a douche. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: he was a douche. Around this time has been what
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  Speaker 1: is he, oh, hedonistic? I've never heard you say that
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  Speaker 1: word before the pleasure.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sex, he could any kind of a.
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  Speaker 1: Vice, gambling, drinking, drugs as he wished. Yes. Around this time,
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  Speaker 1: his professional reputation comes in to question. His business partners
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  Speaker 1: accuse him of financial misconduct, though he denied the allegations.
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  Speaker 1: He left the practice under pressure and went on to
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  Speaker 1: open a new dental office right across the street, and
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  Speaker 1: he called it Three Rivers Dental. This is actually the
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  Speaker 1: kind of guy this is. So he had business partners
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  Speaker 1: in this dental office. Okay, he is doing this big
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  Speaker 1: game hunting in Africa. I don't remember where he was exactly,
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  Speaker 1: and he was alone, and he claims that he was fishing,
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  Speaker 1: and he says that when he went to grab the fish,
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  Speaker 1: a crocodile came out of the water and chopped off
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  Speaker 1: his thumb, just his thumb, none of his other fingers.
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  Speaker 1: This is Larry Rudolph. So he claims that while he's
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  Speaker 1: hunting in Africa that he was.
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  Speaker 2: Fishing before he killed his wife.
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  Speaker 1: This is before he killed his wife. Yes, this is
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about his shady business practices right now, so
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  Speaker 1: we're just this guy's just okay.
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  Speaker 2: Thumb.
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  Speaker 1: He claims he loses his thumb to a crocodile in Africa.
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  Speaker 1: So what does he do. He is a dentist who
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  Speaker 1: has to use his fingers and thumbs. That is part
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  Speaker 1: of right. Like, so he gets an insurance payout or claim.
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  Speaker 1: He makes an insurance claim that you know, his livelihood
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  Speaker 1: is affected because now he can't do dentistry because he
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  Speaker 1: lost a thumb. He gets thirty thousand a month. What
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  Speaker 1: an insurance money?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So did he a thumb?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it showed a picture. It had like a chunk
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  Speaker 1: out of it. But I don't know if I believe
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  Speaker 1: the crocodile story.
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  Speaker 2: The alligator.
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  Speaker 1: It's a crocodile.
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  Speaker 2: The crocodile nibbled his thumb.
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  Speaker 1: The crocodile.
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  Speaker 2: That's I'm sorry. If I have a crocodile that's coming
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  Speaker 2: after me and you're goin to chop my hand, I
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  Speaker 2: think more than a little little nibble.
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  Speaker 1: A little Yeah, so it didn't take his whole thumb off.
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  Speaker 1: But I saw a picture and it took like a chunk.
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  Speaker 2: But he still practiced. Yes, that is my point. Why
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't the insurance company say, you're still practicing? Because that
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  Speaker 2: was in work camp and in work comp It's like,
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  Speaker 2: if you can go to work, you're not going to
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  Speaker 2: collect disability.
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  Speaker 1: So he was collecting this thirty thousand dollars a month
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  Speaker 1: payout disability whatever you want to call it, and continuing
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  Speaker 1: to work as a dentist. But what he was also
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  Speaker 1: doing is he had business partners and this dental practice,
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  Speaker 1: and after hours when the dentist's office closed, he was
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  Speaker 1: doing root canals for cash and keeping all of the
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  Speaker 1: cash and not sharing any of the money with and
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  Speaker 1: keeping it a secret from He was moonlighting. So then
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  Speaker 1: when his partners find out about what he's doing, they
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  Speaker 1: basically gave him two choices. They were like, we can
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  Speaker 1: either sue you for I don't know fraud and you
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  Speaker 1: know all all the extore I don't know whatever, all
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  Speaker 1: the things the financial issues right, or you can walk
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  Speaker 1: away and just leave us alone. We never want to
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  Speaker 1: hear from you again. So he took the choice walk away,
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  Speaker 1: never hear from him again, So what does he do.
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  Speaker 1: He literally goes across the street from that business and
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  Speaker 1: opens a new dentalsh right, And he wouldn't have cared,
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  Speaker 1: he would have signed it and open it. Anyway, you
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  Speaker 1: think this guy abides by any kind of rules at all.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't kill them.
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  Speaker 1: Well, maybe they were next on the list. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, he opens a new dental office across insurance company.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand that either. I'm confused by that.
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  Speaker 2: So he goes across the street and he opens up
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  Speaker 2: his practice, a.
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  Speaker 1: New practice, and then he does yes. And this is
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  Speaker 1: what makes no sense to me. This man got insurance
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  Speaker 1: money for because he was unable to practice dentistry. Yet
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  Speaker 1: he opens a new office and then makes commercials about
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  Speaker 1: his office, like tons of commercials advertising his picture. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I saw a picture of it. It was just like
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  Speaker 1: a little well it's mangled, but it was it was
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  Speaker 1: still attached. How does a crocodile.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, it wasn't a crocodile.
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  Speaker 1: That's see. That's my my takeaway is this man damaged
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  Speaker 1: his thumb somehow cheated on.
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  Speaker 2: His mistress, and she came out after him and probably
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  Speaker 2: whacked him.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe but I don't think it was a crocodile. I
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  Speaker 1: think he planned all along to have some kind of
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  Speaker 1: insurance fraud, and he knew he knew the insurance policy
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  Speaker 1: well enough to know that if he, you know, could
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  Speaker 1: claim that he couldn't do his livelihood or whatever, he
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  Speaker 1: would get this disability. And he did. I think he
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  Speaker 1: damaged himself all.
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  Speaker 2: Kinds of insurance fraud too, with like his medical practice.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure. So he opens up across the street.
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  Speaker 1: It's called three Rivers Dental. It becomes very successful, and
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  Speaker 1: he actually I don't three three Rivers Dental. It should
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  Speaker 1: be called three crocodiles practice. He opens up there's several locations.
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  Speaker 1: When I was watching the documentary, it shows like all
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  Speaker 1: kinds everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: His cockiness. He can get away with all this insurance.
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  Speaker 2: Go across the street. My partners can't bug me. I
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  Speaker 2: go across the street. I open up practice. I make money,
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  Speaker 2: I get cash at night, I sleep with women, I
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  Speaker 2: hunt lions. Yeah, I mean, it's just like.
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  Speaker 1: This guy is just Yeah, he thinks he's just.
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  Speaker 2: He is all that living large.
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  Speaker 1: His affair with Laurie continues secretly for over a decade,
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  Speaker 1: as she follows him to his new business.
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  Speaker 2: Because he was faithful to her for a decade.
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  Speaker 1: Well I don't think he was.
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  Speaker 2: And they were together for a decade.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he remains married to Bianca, So he still
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  Speaker 1: is married to the wife.
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  Speaker 2: Does she know?
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  Speaker 1: You know? That is what I could not understand, because
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  Speaker 1: they interview this employee that he had for twenty five years,
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  Speaker 1: and actually I felt really sorry for her, but she
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  Speaker 1: worked for him for twenty five years. And then she
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  Speaker 1: claims that peoples, I don't know which location, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: he also opened up a lot of these Three Rivers
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  Speaker 1: dental and malls. He was like he was like the
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  Speaker 1: first to initiate, like opening up like a dental.
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  Speaker 2: D Yes, he was walking down a chair, right, we
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  Speaker 2: did walkins welcome, right.
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  Speaker 1: But she claimed that people would tell Bianca you know
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  Speaker 1: about these affairs and that you know, he had a
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  Speaker 1: girlfriend and all these things, and Beanca would say things like,
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  Speaker 1: Larry would never do that to me. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if she did know, but she just you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you just never accept it and you never talk
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  Speaker 1: about it, maybe you just live in denial. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe he was making a bunch of money. So she
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  Speaker 2: was just kind of I'm not saying that she was
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  Speaker 2: all about money, but maybe she was kind of like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you do your thing. Maybe I would think they have
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  Speaker 2: a comfortable life.
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  Speaker 1: They had two children take care of the kid, had
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  Speaker 1: a boy and a girl. I don't know if she
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  Speaker 1: just yeah, like maybe she just and she also was
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  Speaker 1: a big game hunter with him. They had that in common.
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  Speaker 1: She would go to Africa with him and they would
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  Speaker 1: hunt together together. Yeah, so maybe she just didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to know. That's what it would seem to me, because
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  Speaker 1: this guy, he would they would It's not like he
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  Speaker 1: kept this affair with Lori's secret. Like they would just
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  Speaker 1: go out to dinner. All over town. People would see
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  Speaker 1: him together. So I can't imagine that Bianca didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: I think she just didn't want to know.
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  Speaker 2: Would you prefer that keep it in secret?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? No, what you're such a dumb dumb.
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  Speaker 2: You answered the question. Do you want me to be
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  Speaker 2: in public about it? No?
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  Speaker 1: You know what's funny is Shane can't even go this summer. No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't, please stop. No, Shane can't even go to
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  Speaker 1: Costco without like me seeing it on Facebook. There was
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  Speaker 1: I was scrolling Facebook and I saw a photo and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, that looks like Shane's rear, And then
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  Speaker 1: I was like, that is Shane. It was you in
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  Speaker 1: and out. Someone took a picture of you in and out, Shane.
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  Speaker 2: There's no way, Shane picture of my rear and put
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  Speaker 2: it on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you were staying, you were ordering it in
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  Speaker 1: and out, and they were behind you.
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  Speaker 2: So they took a picture of you with what female?
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  Speaker 2: Was I with you?
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  Speaker 1: Weren't? You were with the boys, because you're a good
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  Speaker 1: dad and you don't do that.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't with boys. I was with our boys.
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  Speaker 1: You were with our boys, right, not with some boys.
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 1: So in twenty ten's this is where we're getting up to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the murder prosecutors argue that mill Iron, So
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  Speaker 1: this is the girlfriend right one till Her name is
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  Speaker 1: Lori mill Iron. She wanted a future with Larry and
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  Speaker 1: allegedly pressured him to choose between her and his wife.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: They say she wanted to be Bianca. Bianca is still
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: number one, right, She's married to Larry, So Laurie has
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: a problem with Bianca. She doesn't want Bianca around anymore.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: She wants to be Bianca Anna Grimley. This is one
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: of the people that they interviewed that I actually I
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: felt really sorry for. I believe, yeah, I believe that
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: she worked for like twenty five years for him. She
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: was a manager at three Rivers Dental and claimed in
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: this Hulu docu series that Laurie wanted to have whatever
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: she wanted and be able to show it off. She
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: wanted Bianca's life. She said that she gave Larry an ultimatum,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: and that ultimatum was to get rid of Bianca. She
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: gave him one year. Now, you have one year to play.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: You have one year to get rid of your wife.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: I am out of here.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Larry also had multiple life insurance policies on Bianca, totaling
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: between four point eight and five million dollars. So then
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: in October of twenty sixteen, he plans a hunting trip
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: in Zambia. So Larry and Bianca traveled to Zambia for
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: a big game hunting safari. Both Larry and Bianca are
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: very skilled hunters. I don't know how I feel about that. Again,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're skilled or they just have
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of money. So then the guides drive them
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: out to where the big beautiful African animals are and
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: they're like.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: They're Basically, he went to a zoo, yes, and shot.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Some animals and then took photos of it.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: And then he went to a barrel and he fished, and
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: he got a big swordfish out of a barrel. That
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: would be easy.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Actually, there's video in the documentary of catching a swordfish.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Serious.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, but it wasn't. I don't know if where they were,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't in a barrel. It was on a boat.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was that a fishing shop.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Larry was also the president of the prestigious Safari
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Club at one point. So we get to October eleventh
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: of twenty sixteen. This is the day of the killing. Remember,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: he and Bianca traveled to Zambia for a big game
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: hunting afari. On the final day that they're there, he
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: wasted the final day, right, let's not do it. On
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: day one, Bianca is shot in the chest with a
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: shotgun inside of their cabin.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: She and he claims she shot herself accidentally with a shotgun. Yes,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: but how do you point a shotgun? Was it sawed off?
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: No it wasn't.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: So he's claiming that she's like holding the shotgun like this, Yeah,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: and then she.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Accidentally Okay, keep going, let's see.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Larry claims that he heard a gun shot while he
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: was in the shower and he always.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Was washing all the blood off of me.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: He's in the shower and he rushed out to find
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Bianca on the floor. He claims she accidentally shot herself
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: while packing her gun. What is packing her gun mean?
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Does that mean probably loading it up into like loading,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: probably disassembling it if it can be, and cleaning it,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: locking it up.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: But so she has so he's claiming that she has
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: the on facing.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Did he say she dropped it? Maybe?
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know she's passed and she's like yeah, packing
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: a loaded gun with it pointed right at her chest.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Local authorities and Zambia initially accept the story as an
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: accidental death. You know, they show this.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Is also well, we don't know the practices that were
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: taking place when when all the authorities came.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Well, I saw it in the documentary. You're talking about
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Africa and you're talking about I mean they're out in
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: a remote village where they were Safari. It's not like
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: there's a police department with detectives and crime scene investigators.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: They're away from the big city, right, So I'm saying, actually,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Larry Rudolph is probably pretty dang smart, because what's a
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: better way to get rid of your wife than to
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: travel to Africa to a remote village, to the on
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: a safari where you're using guns and you're in a
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: cabin in a remote area in a third world country.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: And he's like, I need Ali. I'll be in the shower.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I'm in the shower. And then who's going to investigate it.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: There's no crime scene investigator, there's no forensics.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: There was one there was one crime that I was following,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: like I was watching some video on it, and it
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: was the same thing. She claimed, I was in the
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: shower when he shot himself or whatever it was. But
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: then when the police arrived, they noticed that there was
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: not water anywhere, even though she claimed she jumped out
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: of the shower and ran to him and called the police,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: nothing was wet. On the nine one one call, I
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: think she said, I was in the showers, in the shower,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: you heard it, and I came and came and he's
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: shot and there's like no water anywhere. So in this case,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: that would be that was my first thought. But I
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: don't know if the authorities it might have taken him
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: a long time to get out there too.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: So apparently when they show up, he's fully clothed and
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: there is no water.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Right in the fact, they said he was in the shower.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, And you know, every time we make a reference
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: to in the shower, I have to keep thinking about
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: legally blonde, because have you ever seen legally blonde Reese Witherspoon.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I've never seen legally blonde.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: She said you were in the shower because she had
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a perm and she claims she was in the shower.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: That's like how she wash hair.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: That was like the final ending to the movie. That's
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: how she debloked the case.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Andy couldn't say I had a shower cap.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, I guess she didn't think of the shower cap.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: But she was in the shower anyway, all right. So
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: apparently he says he was in the shower, but he's
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: not wet, there's no water, and he has jeens on.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: He didn't think that part out thoroughly, and there was
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: no shower.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: There's only a bathtub.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Right then, after the authorities come, Larry pushes for a
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: quick cremation of Beyonca's body. We later learned from Larry's
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: defense team that it was in Beyanca's will that she
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: be cremated. I don't know. I mean maybe you could, right,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Again, I like your theory where you said,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: why is it Why do we cremate bodies so quickly
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: when there's.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: When it's questionable, whether it's today or next week, it
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: will be ashes right.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: So Larry then returns to the to the US and
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: immediately begins filing life insurance claims because he's, well.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: You don't want to make saying time on this, there's
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: money to be made, right.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: So between twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen, after the trip,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: after he returns home, Larry collects approximately four point eight
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: million insurance payouts within three months. Lori mill Iron, who
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: was the girlfriend, How.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: These people just come They just fall into money because
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: he well, you know, I mean so easily. I mean yeah,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: with the crime, but I mean like his thumb. And
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: then now this.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Because he's a he's a I know, he's a con man.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: He's excited.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: There's like a price adjustment at Costco's because you're my
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: man thirty bucks less? All right, Yeah, I just got
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: thirty bucks.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're not the kind of man that's going
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: to remove your thumb and then say you can't practice
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: law anymore or something. What do you have to do
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: to not practice to get disability for practicing law?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: I shot, you know, crocodile bit my brain off.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I got so. So within three months, Laurie mill Iron
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: moves into the Arizona home that he previously shared with Bianca.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I don't even It's like they're not even trying to
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: hide it. He like comes back from Africa and he's
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: like filing insurance claims and they probably and the girlfriend
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: moves out.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Celebrated, Yeah, because he did he meet his one year deadline.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he. I think he got rid of
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Bianca within his year timeline that he was given by Laurie. Yeah,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Larry and Laurie began living openly and spending heavily. They
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: buy luxury homes and cars. They have a lavish lifestyle
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: funded by the insurance money, and they're traveling all over
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the place.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Together and he got sixty thousand.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's growing doubts as to, you know, whether
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: this murder was you know, a murder or whether she
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: actually shot herself in the chest, So the FBI and
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: the US authorities began reviewing the case. Ballistics evidence shows
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: that the shooting could not have been self inflicted. The
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: size of the gunshot wound also indicated that Bianca had
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: been shot from a distance of six and a half
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: to eight feet away.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: So there was a medical examiners report or something of
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: some kind before she was cremated. Yeah, there must, of
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: course it was that fart because then all the pellets
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: were spread out right, it was up against the chest.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: It would have just been like a single It would.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Be less of an area that was plasted right, but
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: all the pellets or whatever a shot goes everywhere.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: It was actually a friend of Bianca's that informed the
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: FBI of his ongoing affair with mill Iron. I don't
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: know why the FBI has to be informed of that.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, if they were so openly, they were together
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: over ten years, they were openly together, they went out
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: on dates together publicly.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Just because they're out on dates doesn't mean the FBI
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: is like, new, I saw you out with that one lady.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: There's no documentation that.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: So they had it now, But it seems like it's like,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be difficult to find like you really have to.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: That's why this person. They got this person to report
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: it so quickly.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: All right, So a friend of Bianca's informed the FBI
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: of his ongoing affair with Lori mill Iron and claim
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: that Rudolph was never going to divorce her because he
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to lose his money and she's never going
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: to divorce him because of her Catholicism. So this was
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: a federal complaint.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Again, they have some.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Rules, yes they do. They have rules and guidelines. They
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: do not divorce because she's Catholic and he doesn't. Well,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: his rule is he doesn't want to divorce because he
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to give her half of his empire.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: So yeah, what was the king that wanted to divorce
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: his wife but he couldn't because she couldn't she couldn't
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: have children. It was one of the Henry's. I don't
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: know anyway he wanted to. He wanted to divorce his
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: wife because she couldn't have it. Okay, there you go.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just made that up, but I
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: think he did.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Was he had to go around to all the bishops
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: and everything and get permission. Yeah, and it's and again
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: it's it's like all you did was just change the
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: rules to fit your circumstances and justify your scenarios. So
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: here they are killing right anyway, Sir Thomas. That wouldn't
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: grant him permission, they executed him.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Oh that's my dad's name, Tom.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Oh you won't grant me a divorce excute.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: So investigators suspect that it was a staged accident and
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: that there were financial and romantic motives.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: So yeah, well the genius FBI. FBI figured out out
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: on this chair.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: So in twenty twenty one, this is December of twenty
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: twenty one, Larry Rudolph is arrested in Cobo, Mexico while
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: vacationing with Louri.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: How long after the murder.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: The murder took place in twenty sixteen, oh five years,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: so he doesn't get arrested till twenty twenty one.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: So he's arrested in Cobo, Mexico while vacationing with Lori
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: mill Iron, and he's charged with murder of a US
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: national abroad and mail fraud, which is the insurance scheme.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: So he has those two charges. Then in February of
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, Laurie is arrested and she has charges
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: including accessory after the fact, obstruction, and perjury. July August
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two, there's the federal trial. The trial
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: takes place in Colorado. That's the insurance for all jurisdictions,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: that's why it's in Colorado. And prosecutors present forensic evidence
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: disproving the accident and the financial motive which was the
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: insurance money, and then the evidence of a long term
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: affair now the most damaging evidence, and they interview the
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: guy in the in the documentary, his name is Brian Loveless,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and he was a bartender at a restaurant that Larry
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and Laurie frequented together, and he testified that he overheard
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Larry say, I guess they got in an argument at
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: dinner one night, and Larry said I killed my wife
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: for you, and he yelled that to Laurie.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know, and the.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: And the bartendent, well, I don't know.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: They're pretty open. The guy's pretty brazy.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: So he testifies that he overheard Larry's I killed my
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: wife for you. Larry testified at acknowledged that is I
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: opened up a practice across the street, even though my
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: thumb I'm claiming thirty thousand a month on it. And
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: it wasn't really the crocodile.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Jeez, it was an alligator.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Larry. This wouldn't surprise you at all because of Larry
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: and his personality. But Larry testified at his own trial,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: which many.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's telling right there. He's like, yeah, he
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: gets away everything right. He talks everyone into everything right.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: And many jurors saw his testimony as the nail and
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: the coffin for him because they did not believe a
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: word that he said. So I don't know why his
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: defense attorney. He probably the defense attorney probably couln't talk
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: him out of it.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: This guy was like, oh, it reminds me of that
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: movie from the Head with Judd Nelson where he knows
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: his client is guilty of first degree murder, like brutal murder,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: but he can't say it, but he wants to expose him.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: So and this guy is like a narcissist, like a
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: real cocky guy. So he messes with him and says,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: you shouldn't testify. They won't believe you. You don't have
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: the charm to convince them. And so he's like, oh, yeah,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: you better believe I'm going to testify, and then he
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: goes up on the stand and he exposes him that way.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: So August first of twenty twenty two, the verdict comes
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: out and Larry Rudolph is found guilty of murder and
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: mail fraud, and Laurie mill Iron is found guilty of
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: accessory obstruction and perjury.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Which is a bunch of illegal jargon to say, you're involved.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: He told your boyfriend to kill him, and you knew.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: What was going on and you had no problem with it,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and you're a shitty person, right, So you're.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Going to jail to So do we have sentencing?
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah? So then in twenty twenty three, June twenty third
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three, Lauri mill Iron is sentenced to
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: seventeen years in federal prison. They did not like Lori
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: mill Iron.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like, oh good, she had too good
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: of a life for so long. She should be locked
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: up getting away with all that.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: And then in August twenty first of twenty twenty three,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Larry Rudolph was sentenced to life in prison for murder,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: twenty years concurrent for fraud, and then four point eight
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: million in restitution plus a two million dollar fine for
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: his insurance scams. So Larry and Beyonca's children initially believe
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Larry's story, but later changed their stance after seeing the
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: trial evidence. You know, that is sad when like your children,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: like his children stood behind him because he's probably such
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: a smooth talker that he can't They don't want to
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: believe that your dad murdered your mother, right, So you know,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: they probably believe him and they want to stand by
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: their dad.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: And you know, they probably didn't know anything about these
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: affairs or a lot of things, and everything just starts
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: piling up and they're just holy crap.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Laurie's daughter still fully supports her mother and believes her
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: to be innocent. But I do believe that Larry's kids
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: after the trial and after all the evidence that was presented,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I think that they're pretty aware that who their dad
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: actually is. So both Larry and Loriie maintain their innocence
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: and have pursued in prison for.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Life without possibility. Pearl.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think he has a possibility for parole. Life
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: in prison.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know how much life he has. I don't
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: know what he looked like to just to me, just
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: from forties maybe No, he.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Looked a little older fifties maybe, but I mean he's
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: going to spend the rest of his life.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that the insurance like he got charged for the
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: insurance fraud.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the insurance fraud that he was charged for
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: was was the four point eight million he got from
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: his wife's life insurance policy that he had taken out any.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Money, still collecting the thirty thousand dollars.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: But he's still collecting the thirty thousand insurance.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Let's get some of that insurance company that is, and
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: let's use them because apparently they pay out.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: How How is that not on their radar? How are
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: they just continuing and he's in prison getting it? How
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: are they just continuing to send the thirty thousand dollars
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: a month and the disability insurance for the when this man.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: He's in jail and he does he can't practice because
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: he's in jail. Well, maybe that's a reason why you
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: can't practice. Has nothing to do with the thumb any right,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Does anyone.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Out there listening know what insurance company this is? Because
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Shane would like to write a letter, yes and make
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: my phone day. I did follow for my e bike.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be like she can't walk around and tell
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: me what to do anymore.
• 32:25
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