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177: Halfway an Adult · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: It's Orlando Jones, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown. I
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  Speaker 4: To your stations, we have a movie meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: If I had known I'd end up as a sex slave,
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  Speaker 2: I never would have gone to that audition in Orlando.
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  Speaker 1: What's up?
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  Speaker 5: Welcome to Movie Meltdown. I am Brian, and with me
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  Speaker 5: this week we have special guest co-host Mr. Orlando Jones.
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  Speaker 1: How are you, man?
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  Speaker 5: All right, all right. Um, you've been, um, I guess
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  Speaker 5: out doing standup now. So while you were here, I
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  Speaker 5: thought we'd, we'd bring you in and sit down and
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  Speaker 5: talk about all kinds of stuff. So, um, I guess
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  Speaker 5: first just to intro to you, I guess early on what, um,
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  Speaker 5: like where you were, what was it? Uh, South Carolina
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  Speaker 5: you were born?
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Alabama, Mobile.
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  Speaker 6: Mobile.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And then, um, I guess that early on, usually I
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  Speaker 5: like to go back and kind of get, get a
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  Speaker 5: feel for people when they were young. I mean, did you,
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  Speaker 5: initially take to comedy or i mean were you that
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  Speaker 5: kid that was always you know acting well i believe
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  Speaker 5: most parents would say you're over there acting like an
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  Speaker 5: idiot you know but later you you can parlay that
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  Speaker 5: into a career so you know were you.
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  Speaker 2: One of those kids was i tony hawk on a
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  Speaker 2: skateboard there you go you're.
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  Speaker 1: Never gonna make a living on that skateboard boy.
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  Speaker 5: You're gonna have to get a real job one of.
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  Speaker 2: These days Yeah, I don't think he ever listened to that.
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  Speaker 2: Thank goodness for him.
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean, I don't think, I don't know that that.
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  Speaker 2: Was necessarily the plan. I think they were, you know,
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  Speaker 2: more traditional Southern parents.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Pushing towards law school. You know, all that kind of jazz.
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  Speaker 5: Were you not on board with that? Were you fighting
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  Speaker 5: that from early on?
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean, I.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't like, you know, I worked for a lawyer, actually.
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  Speaker 2: I did a bunch of paralegal work when I was underage.
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  Speaker 2: And for a lawyer down in South Carolina who's now
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  Speaker 2: a judge. And, you know, I was a chemistry major.
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  Speaker 5: Nerdy tendencies, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably heavy nerdy tendencies. Yeah. So yeah, I don't,
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  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know that, uh, you know, my,
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  Speaker 1: my first.
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  Speaker 2: Um, foray into entertainment was, you know, doing, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was doing theater. So, you know, I was doing,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Othello and, and, and that sort of stuff. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, home, San Mart Williams and, you know, museum.
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  Speaker 1: But I was, you know, doing plays.
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, comedy was, um, you know, in its
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  Speaker 2: traditional go-do standup form was, you know, I, I wrote
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  Speaker 2: jokes that.
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  Speaker 1: I would send in to like Leno. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Cause he'd pay you like 25 bucks a joke. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: You get another 25 if I had a callback.
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  Speaker 5: Nice.
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  Speaker 2: So I used to write little jokes and send them in,
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  Speaker 2: and occasionally he'd buy some, so I'd do that kind
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  Speaker 2: of thing.
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  Speaker 5: How old were you then?
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  Speaker 1: I was a kid. I was probably 16, 17.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I was writing a couple things.
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  Speaker 5: That says something about Jay's writers.
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  Speaker 1: I suppose. Well, there was a lot of guys, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of comedians doing it.
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  Speaker 2: I was sending them in through another comedian who I
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  Speaker 2: knew who'd been out as he was older than me,
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  Speaker 2: and so he sort of had the connect as to
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  Speaker 2: how to do it, and he and I hooked up
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  Speaker 2: and started working together in advertising at the time. So
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  Speaker 2: we had a little thing called Homeboys Productions, and we
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  Speaker 2: would do our little commercials and crap, and he was like, yo,
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  Speaker 2: we can make a couple bucks writing jokes for Leno,
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  Speaker 2: so we'd send in our jokes.
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  Speaker 5: So this is still 16-ish?
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  Speaker 1: 17.
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  Speaker 5: 17, and you've opened your own production company?
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  Speaker 2: I have my little ad agency, and we were doing work,
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  Speaker 2: 17 and 18, and getting a few clients.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, I did a bunch of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I did Food Lion ads and Mazda and.
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  Speaker 1: All that kind of jazz.
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  Speaker 2: And that gave me some tape of myself. And that's
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  Speaker 2: what led me to Hollywood. So I was pretty much there,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, you know, 18, 19. And I had a
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  Speaker 2: job writing on a different world. So it was, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, I guess it was a weird journey.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. I don't have anything else to
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  Speaker 1: compare it to. So to me it made sense.
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  Speaker 5: Did you plan on... getting into writing or did that
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  Speaker 5: just happen from, from everything else?
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  Speaker 1: No, writing was.
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  Speaker 2: Always something you did like, um, because you wanted to
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  Speaker 2: say something more than, you know, thank you, please come again.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you want to, you know, the roles for like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, teenage black kids.
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  Speaker 1: Were not in abundance.
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  Speaker 5: Not the best.
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  Speaker 1: They're not in abundance now.
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  Speaker 5: No, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: So nothing has changed on that front. That's true.
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  Speaker 2: In order to, uh, to, to, uh, perform, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you had the right. So I, I started really kind
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  Speaker 2: of writing out of necessity more than anything else.
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  Speaker 1: And, um, and that's kind of how it led.
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  Speaker 5: That's again, pretty high profile stuff though. I mean, that
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  Speaker 5: was a different world was one of the biggest shows
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  Speaker 5: in the world at that time, you know, coming off
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  Speaker 5: of Cosby.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I, I didn't, I mean, I wasn't in
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  Speaker 2: the early Lisa Bonet days. I didn't join the show
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  Speaker 2: until it was like in fourth, fifth season. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, it was, you know, it When it's
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  Speaker 2: time slot every night, it was the biggest television block
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  Speaker 2: in television history.
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  Speaker 1: Cosby, The Different World, Cheers, L.A.
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  Speaker 5: Law.
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  Speaker 1: So it was a pretty big block.
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  Speaker 5: That's when they still owned the entire TV. They've fallen
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  Speaker 5: from that at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, please.
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  Speaker 2: I was a kid, so I didn't really know what
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  Speaker 2: it was. I hear now, American Idol had 18 million viewers.
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  Speaker 1: 18 million viewers would have been a horrible thing. night
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  Speaker 1: for us, you know.
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  Speaker 5: It's a very different media environment than it was, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, totally. I mean, we did 25 million, 20, you know,
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  Speaker 1: 22 million people.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, easily.
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  Speaker 1: Regularly, easily.
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  Speaker 5: On a bad night.
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  Speaker 2: So, and you know, Cosney was doing 30, 40 million. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it was definitely huge, I guess. So it's,
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  Speaker 2: it's funny to have come from that and now, and
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  Speaker 2: now hear people sort of talk about, you know, it just,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's weird to me a little bit
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  Speaker 2: because it's almost like they don't, they don't remember it
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  Speaker 2: or they don't get it or something.
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  Speaker 1: It's just full of shit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So much. Cause even like something big, like Mad Men,
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  Speaker 5: like the numbers they get because they're on another, you know,
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  Speaker 5: they're on several notches down kind of network.
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  Speaker 1: It's like 2 million views.
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  Speaker 5: It's nothing compared to, yeah, it's massive.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like literally we get canceled
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  Speaker 1: for 2 million views.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like I can't even conceive of that as, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: and in truth, I think it gives you a really
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  Speaker 2: clear sense of how heavy the hype machine is.
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  Speaker 1: When a show's doing that, has that few viewers.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And has that level of press.
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  Speaker 5: And just how many different avenues now that the internet
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  Speaker 5: has taken over so much stuff that like, Sure, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think that that's kind of cut down on a
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  Speaker 5: lot of the TV watching and probably what they can
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  Speaker 5: count now because everybody's Hulu-ing it and streaming.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that they can count. And a lot of things
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  Speaker 2: are driving back to television. So I'm not of the
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  Speaker 2: opinion that, you know, that, I think the revolution on
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  Speaker 2: the internet is different than how people phrase it, to me.
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  Speaker 5: It's not becoming one thing. TV will be the internet.
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  Speaker 5: It's all the same thing, eventually.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly, that protocol is definitely where it's going.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: But the problem is, and it's a formidable problem, is
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  Speaker 2: that without a Barker, without a real marketing budget, the
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  Speaker 2: internet is more cluttered.
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  Speaker 1: Than television is. There's a lot of stuff out there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so people talk about, oh, everybody's uploading
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  Speaker 2: and using, but I'm like, yeah, but nobody's listening to it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, advertisers, which is what the television business is,
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  Speaker 2: they need a massive amount of people because they're trying
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  Speaker 2: to sell you Tide.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's the real challenge to it, but
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  Speaker 1: we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you did several shows in the writing stage. One
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  Speaker 5: of them, I was going to say, Rock, I always
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  Speaker 5: thought never got the appreciation that it kind of deserved.
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  Speaker 5: I thought that was one of the best written shows
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  Speaker 5: at that time.
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  Speaker 2: It was difficult. It was theater. You forget that the
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  Speaker 2: show was live to air. There's no safety there.
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  Speaker 5: They attempted it every once in a while now, but
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  Speaker 5: that's still so strange, especially at that point. TV had
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  Speaker 5: gotten so Canned laughter.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. We couldn't canned laughter.
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  Speaker 5: 14 takes on, you know, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it changes the kind of joke you can do. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, you can't tell the kind of joke
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  Speaker 2: that's an insert shot or, you know, or cut to
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  Speaker 2: this happens. Yeah. So, like, when you think about something
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  Speaker 2: like The Simpsons, it's not doable. Like, when are they
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  Speaker 2: going to change clothes? So, the story needs to take
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  Speaker 2: place over a finite amount of time. They can only
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  Speaker 2: change clothes literally when there's a commercial break. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And there's only... three commercial.
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  Speaker 5: Breaks it's all in one set usually.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah so you it just it changed the way you
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  Speaker 2: could tell the story it it was.
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  Speaker 5: Kind of about it. I mean, thinking about it, it
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  Speaker 5: was kind of like Honeymooners-esque. Very much. Especially, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: that working class guy, it's set in that one apartment
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  Speaker 5: kind of setting where it was their house.
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  Speaker 2: And it wasn't a particularly big, high concept, goofy, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it was like, hey, I'm going to write this little,
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  Speaker 2: and here was the scariest part, It's a half-hour show,
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  Speaker 2: and we had to break down how much content went
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  Speaker 2: to air. It was 29 pages. So you write a
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  Speaker 2: 50-page script, and in truth, 29 pages were going to air.
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  Speaker 2: And we didn't have the luxury of the edit. So
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  Speaker 2: you had to edit out the stuff that you would go, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I'll see how it works. You had to do that beforehand.
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  Speaker 2: So it really changed, at least for me, completely the
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  Speaker 2: way I thought about writing and performing.
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  Speaker 1: Because the show was live.
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  Speaker 5: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: So it was difficult, but it was great.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, probably the most formidable learning experience for me
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  Speaker 2: in television.
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  Speaker 5: Again, it just never got the recognition that it deserved
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  Speaker 5: for a sitcom.
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  Speaker 1: No, it didn't. I don't know what recognition it deserved.
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  Speaker 2: That's for somebody else to say, but it definitely was
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  Speaker 2: something where people did not grasp The level of difficulty.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, even a lot of that, I don't think I
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  Speaker 5: realized how much you had to do before you even
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  Speaker 5: got to start the show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was definitely a beast, but a lot of
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  Speaker 1: fun to do, man. A lot of fun.
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  Speaker 5: I did want to get into, obviously, Mad TV. Sure.
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  Speaker 5: Because we actually had someone from the show on here recently.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, who did?
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  Speaker 5: We had Pat Kilbane.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, sure.
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  Speaker 5: You kind of passed by. I think he was right
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  Speaker 5: as you were leaving, he was coming in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was after me. But unlike a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the other cast, I know Pat. Yeah. We actually did
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  Speaker 1: a movie together. But yeah, really funny guy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's great. And I was asking him, because the
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  Speaker 5: show got a lot of talk about it, and especially
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  Speaker 5: as the seasons went on. So I guess I was
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  Speaker 5: going to get your take on it. You were there
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  Speaker 5: at sort of the inception of it. What was the
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  Speaker 5: early days of it like?
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  Speaker 2: I was batshit crazy in the early days. We were
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  Speaker 2: shooting 150 pages of material in a week and a half.
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  Speaker 1: One hour show. It was just out of control.
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  Speaker 2: And we were shooting film and beta and then we'd
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  Speaker 2: have this sort of in front of the audience live show.
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  Speaker 2: And we had combined sort of two stages. We'd have
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  Speaker 2: like 600 people in front.
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  Speaker 1: Of a live audience. There's a lot of people for
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  Speaker 1: that kind of show. And it was just kind of,
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  Speaker 1: when we first did it, it was like the Wild West.
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  Speaker 1: It really was, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And there were all these protocols that were really just stupid. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like, we couldn't say we were going up
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  Speaker 2: against Saturday Night Live because we were actually on against
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  Speaker 2: the news, I think, the first time. Like, the first
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  Speaker 2: half hour of Saturday Night Live, we were up against,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? It was like, it was
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  Speaker 2: just weird. Like, we really weren't up against them. And
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  Speaker 2: Quincy Jones was good friends with Lorne Michaels.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he was like, hey, man, we can't, you know,
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  Speaker 1: long as we're buddies. It was, like, really weird.
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  Speaker 5: And if you're really buddies, you wouldn't even put it
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  Speaker 5: on the same night. Right? You're going up against each
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  Speaker 5: other in some sense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, what are we doing? So that was weird.
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  Speaker 2: And the network at the time had all these sort of, like,
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  Speaker 2: Party of Five and 90210. They had all these sort
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  Speaker 2: of one-hour teeny-bopper soap opera.
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  Speaker 5: Family drama, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Things you know and we were like this comedy show
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  Speaker 2: but they didn't really have any half hour comedy shows
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  Speaker 2: you know like Married With Children was sort of on
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  Speaker 2: the downturn and The Simpsons was always on and you
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  Speaker 2: know but it was really weird so it was just
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  Speaker 2: kind of completely the wild west and like everybody hated everybody.
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  Speaker 1: It was like a war going on at all.
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  Speaker 5: Times I think most of those live comedy acts that's
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  Speaker 5: what you hear it's like because it's so much competition
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  Speaker 5: to get your thing on there and get what you
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  Speaker 5: want done and yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was like triply fucked for me because I was
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  Speaker 2: the only cast member that was on the writing staff
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  Speaker 2: oh So I knew what all the writers were saying
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  Speaker 2: about the cast because I was in the room. But
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  Speaker 2: when I went to the rehearsal hall, I knew what
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  Speaker 2: the director and all the actors were saying about the writers.
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  Speaker 2: But you couldn't rat. You couldn't tell.
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  Speaker 1: Because it was going to blow up.
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  Speaker 5: You're the only one, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I would just sit and be like, yep, I
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  Speaker 1: hear you. What was I going to say?
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  Speaker 2: So it was weird to be in both of those
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  Speaker 2: rooms and listen to The amount of shit people were talking.
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  Speaker 1: It's fucking crazy, man.
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  Speaker 5: Wouldn't all the actors be trying to work you to
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  Speaker 5: get their bit in there?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 5: You're the inside track.
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  Speaker 2: They were kind of cool about that, but I would
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  Speaker 2: definitely get pulled aside or ask some question like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: what are they thinking?
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, that ain't my fucking problem. And even if
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  Speaker 1: I knew... I was like, call up there and ask.
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  Speaker 1: Even if it was my bit, I really tried to
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  Speaker 1: stay out of it. Because they don't know who wrote what.
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  Speaker 1: So I wouldn't say anything.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes they'd be shitting all over something I wrote. And
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  Speaker 2: I'd just be like, all right, cool.
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  Speaker 5: It's in my best interest to shut up now.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right. So sometimes I would go and take the note,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes I'd be like, fuck, I have to just
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  Speaker 1: say it.
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  Speaker 5: I'll do whatever I want.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was weird, man. It was a weird show
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  Speaker 2: to do. And I left first, which was another weird thing.
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  Speaker 2: Because I kind of started a mutiny on the bounty,
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: but that wasn't my intention.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: It did become kind of a rotating cast as the
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: years went on pretty quickly, too.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was weird, dude. I mean, I had a
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: lot of.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: I wasn't like... I had credits when I showed up.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Even though they were the camera credits I still had
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: serious credits so I was able to sort of negotiate
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: a different deal but you know the rest of the
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: cast was kind of like their first show so they
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: didn't really know what was what so and you would
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: try and tell them and they would like and then
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: these are you know people I have a lot of
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: respect for but they hadn't sat behind the room you
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: know at that point I'd been a television producer I
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: was you know 23 years old and I was trying
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: to tell them like dude it doesn't work like that
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: like Nobody's really out to get you. It's just different.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: You don't know.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: It's the studios, the network. Don't worry about it. But
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: they were like, shut the fuck up, asshole. It doesn't
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: work like that, man. This is fucking bullshit.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, see how far that gets you.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: So by the time I heard the second season, I
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm out of here.
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: This is not fun.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, it was fun.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, as it went on, it seemed like it got
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: worse and worse for everyone.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Well, they cut the budget on them.
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what Pat said. By the end, it was
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: in a shoebox, and there was barely an audience.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Well, when I left, they had already killed shooting film.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: They had already murdered that.
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: It had been two seasons.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because we were sprawling over budget. It was craziness.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: But we didn't care. It wasn't our job to fix
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: the budget. Yeah.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: It was kind of out of control in so many
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: levels and like, the girls kind of hated each other.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: You know, Debra Wilson didn't. But, you know, Mary and
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Nicole did not get along well. So that was a
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: lot of stuff going on there, dude.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: Drama.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was super crazy drama and, you know, Artie
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Lang was living with me and, you know, Artie was.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: Like, Well, that's trouble already.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, he tried to kill
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: himself so we were going through that madness. You know
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: what I mean? And then he came back to the
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: show and it spiraled again.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Like, So there was a lot of stuff going on.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: We could spend hours just talking about the intricacies, but
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: you know, Artie's like, was my man.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Like, you know what I mean?
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: So I couldn't really figure out why, you know, people
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: were like, well, I was like, I love Artie, but like,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: you let him come back. Like, he didn't figure it
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: out yet. Like, and he landed on Stern where it's
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: where he always wanted to be. So I was really
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: happy for that. But Yeah, dude, it was out of control.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: It was, like, in the fullest sense of the word, like,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: reality TV, like, we would have made, the behind-the-scenes reality
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: TV show about Mad TV would have been insane.
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: I'm kind of thinking they need, like, a made-for-TV movie
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: of the drama vibes. You know how they love to
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: do those.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: This will give you an indication of how insane it was.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I will never forget first season, I think it was
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Fax Bar and Adam Small, who were two execs for
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Easter's Time, you know, Both cool guys. And I remember
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Adam said something crazy to Debra Wilson. I can't remember
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: what it was. And Debra told him, like, listen, I
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: will run you down and stick my thumb in your asshole.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: And I think Adam thought she was joking. And they
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: made some, like, pseudo bet. And the next day, she
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: chased him down and stuck her.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Finger in his ass. And you should have seen his face.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Like, this little black woman with, like, huge tits, like,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: pinned him to the ground.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I saw it. I was like, did she just.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I don't need to know no more. Like, what is
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: going on? But that's kind of crazy shit.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: Don't start what you can't finish.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, dude. I was like, man, I'm good on that.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: I don't want to get that far into it.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a clinch every time I see her
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: from now on.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: You got to settle this amongst yourselves.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're doing Black Dynamite now. Haven't seen her in
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: a minute. New show on Comedy Central.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: She's so funny. I saw her, and every time I
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: see her, I remind her. I was like, you stuck
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: your fucking finger in. And the producer's ass, do you
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: remember that?
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I told him. Exactly. That's Debra. She's just alive. I
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: love her. Great lady.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: Well, I guess at this point, are you trying to
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: forget about 7-Up? Has everybody asked you about it to
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: the point that you're sick of it?
• 19:51
  Speaker 8: No.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: We can leave it alone.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I don't really care, to be honest. I mean, it
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: was so much later. I was like six movies in
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: or something.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: You were recognizable at that point, I remember.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: At that point already.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: I think the weirdest thing about it, you notwithstanding, the
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: most annoying thing about it is how stupid the press is.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're just fucking bone stupid.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Well, that's why I was just like, you probably could
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: care less and don't want to talk about it. But
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: you're still sort of known for that.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but what's fucked up about it, to be honest
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: with you, is I can't figure out if it's race
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: or what it is. I really try and put my
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: finger on it sometimes, but it doesn't really make any sense.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: It's like, you don't call Jennifer Aniston the Friends Lady.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: You're like, hey, Frizz Lady.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Well, sometimes I do. You know what I mean?
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: It's like it's not– but it's like a weird thing
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: to me because there's like 40 other things you could
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: know me from that were equally as big.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: So it's just.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Weird from the mainstream press point of view that they
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: try and pretend– like I kind of finally understood why–
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: you know, Mark Wahlberg was like, call me Marky Mark
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: and the interview's over.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, he's like, yo, fuck you.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Walk away.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Like, I kind of got it, like, because at this point,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: to talk to him about the Funky Bunch is kind
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: of insane.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: And I kind.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Of feel like, I feel like, like, probably, like, next year,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I'm probably just going to draw the line and be like,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I'm done.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm done.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Only because, like, you know, you could talk about Mad TV,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: you could talk about, Time Machine, or Evolution, or Double Take,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: or Drumline, or Bedazzled, or The Replacements. I mean, like, there's...
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Or you could talk about the... Like, this is what
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I normally get.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: This is no bullshit. I go like, oh my god,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't know you were a writer. Nice. I'm like,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: how the fuck could you not know that? Like, if
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: you Google.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: It's impossible for it not to come up. Like, how
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: could you not know that? Or they go, man, the
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: last movie you did was a drama. Was that your
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: first drama? Nice. What the fuck are you talking about? Like.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I haven't done a, literally, I probably haven't done a
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: comedy in, I mean, aside from my new show on ABC,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: you know, How to Live with Your Parents, I haven't
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: done a comedy probably in three or four years.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: So it's sort of like, where have you been?
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: So it's very weird to me that I just kind
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: of think people kind of try and gravitate to the
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: lowest common denominator.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: But that's not even the lowest common denominator. That's what
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: creeps me out about it.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: You're probably thinking, I did way worse things than that.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Way worse. It's funny to me.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I feel like you just have to at some point go,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I'm drawing the line and that's it. It doesn't bother
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: me because I was creatively and I wrote that. Don't
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: get me wrong, there were other people involved in the
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: writing process, but I was definitely... deep entrenched in that
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: world and writing and making that campaign. So I'm proud
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: of it, you know, very much in terms of how
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: it came out, but I didn't know.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: It was going to happen like that.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: You don't, you don't know what's going to happen, but
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: it was cool. It was, to be honest with you,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe they let me do it.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: That's kind of why I wanted to bring it up
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: is it in a way it's like so many other
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: people that get, you know, known for big, huge, you know,
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: advertising campaigns gets painted in this corner. They really kind
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: of let you be you, and you weren't specifically whatever
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: they were trying to make you. It almost made your
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: character as identifiable as the product, which had to be
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: useful in trying to map out where you were going career-wise.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, to.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Be honest with you, that particular character in that ad
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: and I don't have a lot in common, but it
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: was definitely a character-driven campaign. And to be honest with you,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to do
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: a character-driven ad campaign. And at the time, people didn't
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: do character-driven ad campaigns.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: It just simply wasn't done.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: And also, ad campaigns of that size didn't go to
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: people like me, you know, Magic Johnson. It went to
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: professional athletes or big sort of superstars.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: So it was, I have to.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Say, them really, I have to... tip my hat to
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: them sort of thinking outside of the box just to
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: begin with. And then to sort of let me kind
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: of create a character to do in a campaign.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: And he was just clueless.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, for me, it was an homage to probably
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: my favorite actor of all time, Peter Sellers. So for me,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I've been obsessed with Peter Sellers forever. So I was like, yo,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I want to do this Inspector Clouseau type guy in
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: the sense that he doesn't get When it goes wrong,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: he never gives up the ghost.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Clouseau, everything goes wrong. Clouseau remains on the case.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: He is on top of things.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: In his mind.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: In his mind. And that sort of, to me, was it.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: That guy is on top of things at all times,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: and everything is going wrong. So I really wanted to
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: do my version of what that character would be.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: And that's really what the campaign was. For me, that's
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: what it was.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: And that's a big gamble for them, really. So it's...
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: It was.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: But they had gambled just before then and lost. They
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: did this campaign called Are You An Un?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: And it just tanked.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: That's already bad.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, whatever.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: And by the way, don't get me wrong, they didn't
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: have great... They wanted to do 7-Up, It's What's Up
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: or 7-Up, Drink It Up. And I was like, those suck.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: And I literally scribbled on the back of a napkin, like,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: make 7-Up yours just because I thought.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: It was funny. And also, I kind of felt like
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: The audience they were trying to target, like, I'm a.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Big believer in disruptors. Like, I believe that you try
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: and do something that just disrupts what.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Was there before it.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: And I really wanted to do something that was a
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: disruptor campaign. And I credit the head of 7-Up at
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: the time because he really was the guy that got it.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: It was like, you know, like, southern dude. So we
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: already bonded on the whole southern thing.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: And he was hilarious.
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: He was like, you know, I go out there and
• 25:59
  Speaker 9: I play golf with my buddies. And I'll be out there,
• 26:01
  Speaker 9: and I'm hitting the golf ball, and I'll tell them
• 26:03
  Speaker 9: what this ad agency got for me.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: And they're good boys up there at the agency. They're
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: good boys.
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: But I'll tell them what they got for me, and
• 26:09
  Speaker 9: they don't like it at all. I'll tell them what
• 26:12
  Speaker 9: you say, and they just.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Laugh and laugh. So I think we're going to go
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: with you on this. We'll see how it comes out.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: And that's how the campaign got greenlit. Just like that.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: So it was something where I don't believe that ad
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: guys have those kind of balls these days. Everything's kind
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: of safe. It kind of feels derivative.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, even at the time, I remember thinking
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: that was very... Just that slogan alone was something that
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: most corporations wouldn't touch, you know?
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, no.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: It's offensive, you know? And you could take it however you.
• 26:41
  Speaker 10: Want, really.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Well, people forget, like, Katie Couric, like, literally called me
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: out on the Today Show. It was like, this campaign
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: is offensive.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: And I was like.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget, she brought the dude on who was
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: the head of Adweek at the time. And she was like,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: this is offensive. And he was like, I think you
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: can argue... either you think it's funny or you don't
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: think it's funny. He goes, I don't know if you
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: can say it's offensive.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: Even if it is, what's it to you? Who cares?
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. But I was under fire for that.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: Don't buy that drink then if you hate it.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Dude, they pulled us from the Super Bowl, man. They
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: pulled Make7UpYours.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: This is how crazy corporate America can be. They took
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Make7UpYours off of the Super Bowl and put in, show
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: us your cans.
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's way classier. Which was one of.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: The bits where people send me pictures of their ass.
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: And I'm trying to go and send pictures of them
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: with 7up and they're sending pictures of their ass. But
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: the funny thing is now, 21st century, you see people
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: like having webpages, Facebook and Twitter campaigns where brands are
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: actually trying to get people to do that.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I'm like, we did this as a joke. Are you
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: guys really trying to do this shit now?
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: Like, are you.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: People are going to send you a picture of them
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: with a soda? Like, what? It's just all upside down, dude.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I thought that was a joke. So that's
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: what the Super Bowl ad was. Because make sense of
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: yours is offensive.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: Of course.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Fuck you, motherfuckers. It's a joke.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: That's funny. Yeah, just get over it. Don't like it
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: if you don't like it, but yeah.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, could Lenny Bruce and George Carlin... Because they
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: live today. You know what I mean? Yeah, see?
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: It's a different world.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: It's like everything's supposed to be censored. It's like, how
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: do we get here? It's crazy to me, man.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: Well, it's like we as a society, as a people,
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: continue to get more offensive and more obnoxious, but yet
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: the window gets smaller and smaller for what's PC and
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: what you can do.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: They act like we all clicked agree to it in
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: some iTunes video. update or some shit i'm like i
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: didn't read that in itunes update i don't.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: Nobody reads the update.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Like they act like there's a social contract that's in
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: the itunes update and we all clicked it.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: But you know not knowing that.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: You can't say this and you can't say that you
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: can't make fun of this person you have to be
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: careful what joke you make i'm like careful.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Jokes kind of bullshit is this man this laugh is
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: a laugh.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Man this is come on well that's one of the
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: things i was gonna ask was um just because you've
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: dealt with, you know, you do, especially doing like the show,
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: doing like different characters or sometimes making fun of like
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: celebrities or people in the real world. Have you ever
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: gotten yourself in trouble? Especially when you like run into
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: someone later?
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think the rule of thumb is
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: that you don't make fun of who people are, but
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: you can make fun of what they do or what
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: they say. That's fair game. So I haven't particularly, I don't,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I don't particularly talk about like celebrities as it were
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: but i definitely use myself or anybody as an example
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: um but yeah i've i've been known to say some
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: shit um but uh i know.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: I do the same thing you know sometimes you're like
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: oh well I'm sitting here next to this person. How
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: did that happen?
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, some people I know, like a lot of
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: people I know. You know what I mean? Some people
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you know what I mean? So
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: if I don't know the person, I sometimes try to, you.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Know, be a little careful about it. But if you
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: did some dumb shit, you did some dumb shit.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: You're asking for it.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: And there's different levels of dumb shit.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, you know, like I don't know what's
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: going to happen when I bump into Kim Kardashian.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? I don't know how that's
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: going to work out. And here's the problem. Like, I
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: actually don't.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Dislike her in fact i actually really like courtney courtney's
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: my favorite of that bunch yeah but um um i
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: think she's mad cool actually but i don't know her
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: don't get me wrong um.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: But i think that what they stand.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: For and propagate is dangerous oh yeah you know i'm
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: like they don't have any talent and and and as
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: a as a as an entertainer you know the craft
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: is the most important.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: Thing I think that's the part of the system that's
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: broke now, is that that is fine to go through.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: It's nice that they're opening the window to let a
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: lot more people in, but it should be the people
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: who are good at something, you know? Yeah.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Not just... It should be.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: You're there.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Like, you wouldn't... I mean, there's things that you.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: We have allowed mediocrity into a part of society, but
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: it happens to be a corner of society where I
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: do my thing. So if I treat it with as
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: much disrespect... As some.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Jackass who doesn't know the difference, then I can't complain.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: So I talk about that, and they come up in
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: conversation because Barbara Walters kind of said it best, which
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: is like you're kind of famous for nothing.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, literally. I think she said, quote, forgive me, you
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: don't have any talent.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: Nice.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: And when she said it, two things ran through my mind.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: One was, you're right. And two, if you believe that,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: why the fuck do you have him on your show?
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: It's popularity. It's media.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Right, but I kind of felt like as a journalist,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: don't you.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Have an obligation to shun, to bring legit people?
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Was Meryl Streep not available? I mean, you know what
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I'm saying?
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: They're on the same level, right?
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: There are talented people out there that are fighting to
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: sort of cut through the muck, but you don't shine
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: a spotlight on them.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: You shine a spotlight on on these, these people.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: And so I, in that sense, you know, I'm an entertainer,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm, I'm a writer, you know, actor, you know, performance,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: what I do.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: And, and I, I don't take it light.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I take it seriously because, you know, the story I
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: always tell is the medium always changes.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: It might be digital today and who knows what it's
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: going to be tomorrow. You know, we've already made the
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: moves from tape to You know what I mean?
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: We've made more moves in the last 25 years than
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: we ever did before that.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's crazy when you think about, you know,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: albums and cassettes and, you know, and how things were
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: recorded and captured and so on and so forth, you know,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: from when the first recording devices came along.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: But my point is that, you know, Eric Clapton, Jimi Hendrix,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: you know, they could play the guitar, like flat play
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the guitar. And they had a craft.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: And through all the different changes of the different mediums,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: I still listen to those guys because.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Of the craft.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: It's a basic talent.
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: It's a basic talent. And I still feel like the
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: focus on the basic talent is still, for me, the focus. Like,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: to be the best actor, performer I can be is
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: still it. To try and write and not write shit
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: that is entirely derivative. To perform not just a stand-up show,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: but a show that feels like it's bigger than the room.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, that is.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: What my job is, my job is not to lower
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: the fucking bar and make it easier for a motherfucker.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: My job is to make it more difficult.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: So I take that part real serious because I love
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: and feel that God, for whatever reason, touched me and
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: gave me a gift. I think he gives everybody a gift.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: But he gave me this one. And if I squander
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: it and act like it ain't shit, then I do
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: a disservice. you know, to the man or the woman upstairs. So,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: and I'm not trying to do that. So I take
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: it serious. And that's where the Karakardashians and I run afoul.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: You know, me and Paris Hilton run afoul right there.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? When people try and justify it, like,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I saw her walking. You know, she's
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: got something. She's got something. I'm like, a vagina?
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: She's a DJ now. What are you talking about? Stop it.
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: That's her new thing.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Felix the house cat. You know what I mean?
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Ruckus is a DJ. My man DJ Ruckus. Ruckus is
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: a DJ. Felix DJ.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Dallas Austin, who is an incredibly prolific music producer. DJ,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: my man.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: Paris can hit play on the iTunes.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I guess. A DJ? Stop kidding me.
• 35:07
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  Speaker 6: Pardon me, sir, but what are you looking at? Is
• 36:10
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• 36:16
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• 36:26
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  Speaker 3: It's part of your problem, you know. You haven't seen
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  Speaker 5: Well, you mentioned one, but I was going to see
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: what some of your influences were, comedic and just, you know,
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: as a fan of movies or whatever. So Peter Sellers
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: is definitely one.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's pretty, that's high cotton, is what
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: I like to say. Yeah, I mean, Sellers, Kubrick, you know,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Lars von Trier, I think is pretty amazing as a director.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: You know, Gene Hackman, you know, Lawrence Fishburne. Um, and
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of people who I, you know, I just,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I love the people who love the craft, you know
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: what I mean? You, you cannot love street, you know,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Shirley MacLaine.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: It's amazing to me.
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Just, you know, the, the.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Longevity of like what she does is just like, it's,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: it's boggling to me. Um, yeah, man, it's a lot
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: of people who I dig, a lot of writers, you know,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: from Henry Miller on down to, uh, you know, uh,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: where worldwide pants came from, you know, like Monty Python,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: the voice, you know what I mean?
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Like, Yeah.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's just a lot of phenomenal guys out
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: there who I think, you know, were breaking new ground. And,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: you know, when I was coming up, those were the
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: guys who I was, I kind of going, you know,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: drifted towards.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: And, you know, Cosby was definitely, you know, an iconic storyteller.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, he just, he just is.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, so, you know, and Kennison and Bill Hicks and,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: you know, Bill Mars and Shelley Berman and, You know,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: if you want to go that far back, W.C.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Fields.
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: You know, it's very cold that day. You know, and
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: the sunshine bright. You almost made me laugh.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, there are a lot of cats who I think,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: you know, that I drew from because I always sort
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: of would pick what I liked from each one of
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: them and try and sort of understand what they were
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: doing and where they were coming from.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so that's always been my vibe.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I've always been sort of in awe of some pretty
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: staggering talent.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Definitely.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: I guess to get sort of into your movie career,
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: what was the big crossover for you?
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it was weird because I use that
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: word a lot. I think Liberty Heights, a movie I
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: did with Barry Levinson film that Ben Foster and Adrian
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Brody and I all did and Justin Chambers and all
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: those guys, B.B.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Neuwirth and Joe Mantegna. It was the Hollywood movie. Because
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Barry Levinson is a big, you know, A-list director. You know,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: obviously at that time in particular.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: Even more so, yeah.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the natural and Rain Man, you know
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: what I mean? He's very iconic. So when he puts
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: you in a movie.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: and nobody has ever heard of you, really. It changes
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: your scope inside the business, but it doesn't change you
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: to the average guy on the street, because he doesn't
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: know that.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: So I would say that that was the big changeover.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: It definitely put me in a different pedigree.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: And so when I did Magnolia, worked with Paul Thomas Anderson,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: and started working with those kinds of folks, it definitely
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: changed the landscape. But unfortunately, there weren't enough roles for
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: people of my age and persuasion to sustain a career
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: doing that. So I quickly sort of had to, ended
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: up doing stuff like The Replacements. And I learned that
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Hollywood has this really short attention span. I'd left MADtv
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: I got Liberty Heights and did Magnolia, and I couldn't
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: get arrested into comedy afterwards because people said I was
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: a drama actor.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I came from.
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: That's what it always is. Yeah, TV.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Like, are you serious?
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: And so we literally did the replacements because we were
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: proving like, no, he.
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: No, remember comedy? Remember comedy?
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: And that sort of was the moment where I said
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I wanted to kind of move back and forth. And
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: then various things sort of exploded and happened after that.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: But the big thing was that a lot of the
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: movies that I did, did okay at the box office.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Like Replacements did okay at the box office, but they
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: took on this iconic role on television. So it's a
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: weird thing to have that happen because I still have
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: so many movies that run heavily on TV, like constantly,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: but they weren't big hundred million dollar blockbuster movies, which
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: put me in a weird position.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Um, and that was, you.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Know, but you don't know that you're like, you don't
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: know where anything's going. So, And as I sort of
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: was like, I'm an actor, you know, that's what I do.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I think it really informed a lot of stuff. So
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: I find myself really kind of happy to be in
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: the position that I am right now. In some ways,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: very fortunate that it's my first time in Louisville doing stand-up.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: And every time I'm here, people say.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, no, you were here before, weren't you?
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: No, no, I'm pretty sure I wasn't. They're like, are
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: you sure? I'm like, I think I remember this.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: I've seen you somewhere.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: It could be those 40 movies that are playing all
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: the time.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: They think they saw me do stand-up.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you lose perspective. As long as you're in the
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: public eye in some fashion.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: It's crazy to.
• 45:17
  Speaker 7: Me, right?
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: That's funny to me.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I think Liberty Heights and those movies were
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: probably definitely the turning point.
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: And.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: And now, you know, I'm literally, I leave to go
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: do a movie on Monday. So I go to Bulgaria.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: I'm doing an action movie there called Enemies Closer. So
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: that's my next stop in the movie world.
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: Well, that's one of the, you mentioned Paul Thomas Anderson.
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: What was working with him like?
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Really talented, obviously, director. Really a cool guy. I mean,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: he has a very clear sense of the story he's telling.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: And the layers that... I think.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: He's... He's looking... The onion.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: And he's looking to.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Unpeel it layer by layer. And I think his use
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: of camera movement is pretty extraordinary. And as a director,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: he really is an actor's director.
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: Does he ask more of the actors or something different
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: than most directors?
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: I think, no, he is, he doesn't sit behind a monitor.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: He watches you right next to the camera.
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: He shoots 2,000 foot mags of film instead of 1,000
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: foot mags so that he doesn't have to cut so
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: you don't have to come out of character.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: And he often will be like, no, stay away, stay away,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: roll again, go again. So he doesn't like, He doesn't
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: want to cut, you know what I mean? He wants
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: to keep you in character.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: And he does everything he can to make both the
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: set and the environment and everything around you help you
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: give the best performance you can. And he takes the
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: technical aspects of movie making and tries to alter them
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: as best he can to help you get the best performance.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: And there are a lot of phenomenal directors. I don't
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: think they go to those great lengths to... to give
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: you that, that opportunity and support you. So when you
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: work with him, you truly feel supported, um, from top
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: to bottom, um, in the way that he approaches, um,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: making the film and, and helping you, um, emote. So yeah,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I got to tip my hat to him and the
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: way that he does that. And that is, that is different.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: That is, that is different.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: And there are directors and I've worked with a number
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: that certainly care about the actors and want to help
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: a lot, but they don't alter the process as much
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: as he does.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: You know, um, there were a few others I was
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: going to hit just to see if you had interesting,
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: you know, stuff from the shoot or, or just stories
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: that went along with it. Um, and this, I mean, you, you,
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: this is probably one of the best examples of what
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: you were just talking about. Evolution probably wasn't huge at
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: the time, but I've found so many people that love
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: that movie over the years that like discovered it on
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: cable or found it on DVD. And yeah, And it's
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: built a big fan base over the years, so I
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: didn't know what that was.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a fun movie.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: It was a strange movie because I'm walking this very
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: weird line the whole movie because it's a science fiction movie.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: And in the spirit, I guess, of Ghostbusters, obviously they
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: have the same director, Ivan Reitman. It's a science fiction
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: movie comedy, but it requires something kind of different than
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Ghostbusters because.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: it requires you to.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Take the science seriously. Where Ghostbusters doesn't really ever make
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: you have to do that.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's like you're capturing ghosts,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: you've got your thing.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: It beeps, it lights up, it's science.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Right, it's science.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: This was sort of like all of a sudden you're
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: looking at a periodic chart talking about mitosis. So it
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: sort of had this actual scientific element, the title alone.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: These creatures that evolve at a much more rapid rate
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: than we evolve. So all of that was... It was
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: strange and a little bit to sort of try and
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: walk the line between playing comedy and playing, hey.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I'm a volleyball player.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Coach who's talking science you know yeah um so it
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: was a fun movie to do uh in that in
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: that sense we were like stuck in this one joke
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: town in arizona it was like uh right next to
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: the dam and it was everything was there was a
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: damn bar the damn cleaners you know the damn hotels
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: because it was one joke town everything was the damn And,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: you know, the company and I just had a great
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: time together. I mean, he's still, you know, somebody I
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: regard as a close friend. And I dig him. And
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Julianne was, you know, wonderful as usual. I thought she
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: caught an unnecessary amount of crap for doing a comedy.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Which I thought she pulled off famously. And Sean William
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Scott was great. I mean, he had a lot of
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: great people in that movie.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Ethan Supple.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: And I think, and Harold, not Kumar. John Cho.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: But, yeah, a lot of really funny people. in that movie,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: amazing cast together, a lot of fun to do, but yeah,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: I've had the luxury of being in a number of
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: movies that have become cults, like Office Space became like
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: a cult movie, Evolution, and you know, again, Drumline, it's
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: weird that those movies all sort of became big cult
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: fan movies, so I kind of feel blessed or honored
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: to have had those movies become that much a part
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: of the pop culture as I guys, like I'll be
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: watching Monday Night Football every now and then.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: And see a guy do my replacements.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: End zone thing you know where they pretend they got
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: to stick them on the hand the ball like I saw.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: It I was like hey that's me.
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: Like you know do I get a residual check for
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: that wait a minute that's.
• 50:48
  Speaker 10: Mine yeah that's mine I remember that that's crazy so
• 50:53
  Speaker 10: yeah man it's it's I've been blessed in that regard
• 50:57
  Speaker 10: but yeah you're right I mean I think that movie
• 50:59
  Speaker 10: did far better in Europe it was like a hundred
• 51:01
  Speaker 10: million dollar movie in Europe and I.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Think it capped out at around 60 or so here
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: and then took on another life on TV and DVD.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: So what are you going to do?
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: Actually, I was just watching time machine and, and there
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: you were. I, again, I kind of forgot you were
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: even worked into that one, but you're sort of separate.
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: Was that just you in a room by yourself the
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: whole time or?
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Um, no.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Um, I mean, Guy and I are obviously definitely there together.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: There's no way to do the scene without, um, your
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: guy Pierce. Um, You know, it's a science fiction movie, again.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: You know, H.G. Wells. And in the original movie, my
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: role was the rings.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: But I have to say, you.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Know, I tip my hat to Steven Spielberg and Laurie Parks.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Walter Parks and Laurie McDonald, who they produced
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: in that movie. And Jeffrey Katzenberg, really, because that's why
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: I was there. Those guys specifically put me in that
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: movie and very much wanted.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: The picture of the future to.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: encompass more people than it had previously encompassed so that
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: was really them it was very much their thinking it
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: was very much their doing and I felt sort of
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: honored to be a part of it I'm sure H.D.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Wells was spinning in his grave.
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: Probably for several other versions before.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: You yes but we did our big visual effects version
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: of it it's a fun movie to do I try
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: and go nowhere to have a bad time but that
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: was a fun one But I wasn't there for very long.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I think I was... They shot me out in a week. Yeah.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: I was going to another.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Movie at the time, and I was there like a week,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: and we were gone, and then they brought me back
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: to do the bit.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: At the end. Yeah.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: I think I'm doing like a ground pull or something.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: I can't remember.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Some book, I think.
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: Oh, let's see. I mean, are there... other ones that
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: you've done that you feel are underappreciated and didn't, that
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: you liked and thought should have caught on like that and,
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: and didn't?
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Um, no, I don't like, um, my movies. Okay. From
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: being honest.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Um, I don't, I still feel like, um, I have,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: I have yet to deliver the film that I want
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: to deliver, um, or the films that I want to deliver.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: So, No, I don't like really any of them.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: I don't particularly care for Drumline or any of that.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: There are a few elements of performances I thought were okay.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: I did Cirque du Freak, The Vampire's Assistant, which I
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: thought was interesting.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I like Paul Weitz a lot. I thought the movie was...
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't like me in the movie, but I liked
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: the movie. This movie, Beyond a Reasonable Doubt with Michael Douglas... Again, fun.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: In fact, I'm working with that director again now.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: In fact, you know, there's a movie that people really
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: are just starting to discover called Seconds Apart.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: It's a thriller, like a thriller, like throwback film noir movie.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Film noir, like horror.
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: But more film noir than horror.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: And that's been interesting because I get a lot of
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: messages about that movie lately, like a lot of stuff.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: On Twitter and Facebook.
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: What year was that?
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Seconds Apart? A year and a half ago.
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: Hmm.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: A little indie movie that I did that's really creepy.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: And I gained like 42 pounds for it. And that
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: was fun to do. That's what I enjoyed. I still
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: don't like watching me, but I enjoyed it.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: And I'm curious, you.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Know, and it meets closer in my next one, I'm curious.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: I just wrote a graphic novel, action comedy, that'll probably
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: be next year called Tainted Love, which is really what
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: I'm probably most excited about right now because I'm a big, crazy,
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: you know, graphic novel comic book dude.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: So it's going to be fun to do that one.
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, we usually do our own little, you know,
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: whatever we've been watching or doing. I go with geek activities.
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: That's just, you know, what we've done. So I was
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: going to ask you what yours were, but yeah, graphic novels.
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: That definitely lends itself to us. some fun geek interests.
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: What are you into as far as graphic novels?
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I like... I mean, Frank Miller. Sort of obvious choice.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: I like some of his lesser-known stuff, oddly, like Mama
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Washington and shit like that, which is just crazy to
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: me that he did that.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: And I like... I like them because....
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: When I read comic books, comic books always, to some degree,
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: felt like they were kind of for kids a little bit.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: And graphic novels always felt like those were the things
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: that I wasn't supposed to be reading.
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: We took those rules and threw them out the window,
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: and here's what we drew.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Right, exactly.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: They just kind of went for it. I always wanted
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Batman to be a fucked up dark comedy, and now.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: That it is that... In the film world, I'm sort
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: of obviously more drawn to it than ever.
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: It's hard to imagine him the other way sometimes. I
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: think there's a whole new generation that doesn't get the
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: campy thing that he used to be.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: That boom, bam!
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: Or even like the Super Friends version where he's just
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: squeaky clean. It's so weird now that there's a whole
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: new generation that has no idea that that's a good
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: portion of his run.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's funny because I never saw him as that.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: I always.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: The Robin thing was always just like, what's going on?
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Are they dating? What's happening?
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: It never really makes sense, but you just go with
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: it because Batman's still cool. Right, exactly. You got questions.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Even though he didn't have no powers. That was the
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: part that always got me with him. I was like,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: but he ain't got no powers.
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: I was fine with Batman. Superman's the one that always
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: pissed me off. Because he's got everybody's power. And the
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: super friends, they all have one thing that they can do,
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: and the Superman can do them all. He'll be running
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: off with them doing the same thing as they're doing.
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: I'm like, well, what do you need the rest of
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: these idiots for?
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Why does the movie keep sucking?
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: It's like he's supposed to be like... It's.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: Like they didn't know how to bring back Lex Luthor.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: You're only as good as the villain you're fighting against.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? All of a sudden there's
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: a dude running through cornfields and shit.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck is going on? This
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: is not what I wanted to see. So I like
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: graphic novels. I like the graphic nature of them. I
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: like the fact that they're sort of dark comedies. And
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: I just dig that whole thing. And I kind of
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: felt like if I was going to create something, why
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: have somebody draw some pictures? And for the dying print business,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: I thought if I'm going to do a graphic novel,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to shoot one. So that's what I did.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: I went and shot a graphic novel and filmed the
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: whole thing. And it's called Tainted Love. And it's pretty badass.
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: So is there a paper version also being done?
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: The paper version will be done.
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: The paper version will be done.
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: So it's sort of going in reverse of the way
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: the movies happen now where they steal a graphic novel
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: and make it into a good movie.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I wrote it and I wanted to shoot it
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: because I wanted you to see it. And I wanted
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: to make it the actual visual like a graphic.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Novel so that there's no disconnect. You're not. you're not
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: trying to go from the paper to the, to the movie.
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: Well, they changed this when they made the movie, right?
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: This is what geeks do.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: I wanted to be like, no, I want it to
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: be a moving picture from its inception and then have
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: the graphic novel illustration elements be a part of the
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: moving picture.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Cause in 2012, it just seems like if you were
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: going to do it, that's how you do it.
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I don't have the luxury
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: of doing it the way, you know, the, the greats
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: did it.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: So I was just, let me just try it this way. So,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: That's definitely my baby, so I'm really excited about it.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: That'll be next year, but it's pretty dope.
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: Do you draw things?
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Or do you work on that level or i definitely
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: you know i've always loved to sketch and draw um
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: i'm not you know i'm not you know john bogdanoff
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: or anybody uh you know um arville jones or any
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: of those guys that were sort of in the early
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: going to the 70s at that level but um you
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: know if i need to i can sort of definitely
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: sketch out hey here's what i'm thinking about And then
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: I take people more talented than me and.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Be like, yeah.
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: Now you do it.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: You do it. That's it. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Yeah,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: but it's much cooler how you did it. But yeah,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: I love it, man. It's really just awesome. I'm enjoying
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: this a lot.
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: Very cool. I guess any other stuff that you're into now?
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: No, I'm just, you know, I'm sort of a barbarian
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: or geek. I'm not sure which one it is.
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: It's a fine line, yeah. Yeah, I watch my sports, dude,
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: and Any movies? Have you seen anything recent?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: No, I want to go check out, I'm a little
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: curious about MI3.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: I'm like, MIB3. The trailers look whack, but everybody keeps
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: saying it's good, and I don't believe it.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: It's funny how universally everybody disliked that second one. the
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: first one was beloved and then the second one so
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: it's weird that they even it's like they waited that
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: long to come back and do three which is questionable anyway.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah so I'm a little like my nose is not
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: like I'm not really sure about this one and you
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: know I feel like they make nothing but content for
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: girls now like you know what I mean that's what's
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: selling it's all what to do when you're expecting but
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: I will tell you the Avengers was pretty.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: Badass yeah I did see that one.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's completely over the top. Whereas Battleship... I
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: didn't make that one.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: What are the odds?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: I don't know why I didn't make it out to
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: see that one.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: I get what they tried to do, too. But somehow
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: it's just.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: It's like they missed on several... Just trying to do
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: a board game movie is a rough sell anyway.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Because Battleship was never that kind of game.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not an immersive game. It's just calling out numbers.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: No, they may as well, I'm like, why don't y'all
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: make Connect 4 next?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, every week we would go through, and they kept
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: doing that, of things that they need to... When's the
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: Slinky movie coming out?
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Right. Exactly. Exactly. With the Marilyn Manson version of it. Oh, Slinky, oh, Slinky.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: You can work that in. That'll be the trailer. You
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: get the Marilyn Manson song.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, Marilyn Manson covering the Slinky song.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: He'd probably do it. He's talking about geeky, you know.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: He's got his geeky tendency.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like Marilyn Manson.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: I do.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: I liked him more when I realized what a dork
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: he was. When I thought he was being really serious,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: it was annoying. But then I saw interviews with him,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: and he's such a nerd. And I was just like, okay,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: well now. Now that I realize it's a show, I
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: can kind of get on board with it.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: It's actually a really great show. And for what the
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: show is, I'm like, yeah, balls.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, it's basically what Lady Gaga.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, totally.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, she took Madonna and Manson and jammed them together,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: and they were both massively successful in their own right,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: so it's no wonder she's huge now.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: Right, yeah, totally.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: But yeah, Avengers, again, I gave so much credit to
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: Joss for just good character writing. It's just, that makes
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: a difference, you know?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: It does.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: You look at even some of that same series that
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: are a little lesser because he wasn't involved, and they
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: just sort of, skate by on the action and the
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: characters aren't developed but he put a lot of time
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: in and it shows.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: So yeah well listen if you're not a Josh Whedon
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: fan then there's something.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: Wrong with you I can get over that.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean there's something there's yeah
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: there's no like as soon as somebody goes I didn't
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: get it I'm like.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: Shut up oh well I was gonna get you know
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: rounded out here with you you're doing stand up is
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: that something you've kind of done all along or is
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: it something you're returning to or how did it come
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: about the the new wave of stand-up.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Well like i said i think you know since i
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: was a teenager i've kind of been out in la
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: and now i've been kind of you know on the
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: movie you know tv world and um it's always one
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: of those things where you know like i said early
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: on i was writing for stand-ups and i just didn't
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: um i sort of never got around the touring thing
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: it just you know and every time i brought it
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: up you know my agent managers would be like, why
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: the fuck would you do that? The stand-ups are trying
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: to do what you're doing.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: Had you tried it out before? Open mic kind of stuff?
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: No, not open mic kind of stuff, really. It really
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: was just a function of not having time.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: It just came to this year and I was just like,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: I can't put it off anymore. Also, there's an Enough
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: crazy shit going on that I felt like I don't
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: get to complain about it if I don't talk about it.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: At least I just promised myself that you don't get
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: the luxury to complain about anything unless you go see it.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget Buddy White's movie, Kevin Hart's movie came out,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: Soul Plane, and people were shitting all over it.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: It was horrible.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: People were like, oh, what do you think? I was like,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: I can't say anything. I haven't seen it yet. So
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: I can't agree with you.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't seen it. I went to
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: see it. I was like, I get it. I get
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: you don't like it, but it is what it is.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: He's not the worst ever. It's not his fault, really.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: You can't parody a parody. They're trying to parody Airplane.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: Which is making fun of its own airport and everything else.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: Airplane was making fun of a drama.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: It's making fun of movies from the 40s.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: No, Airport 75 and Airport 77.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Those super high intense dramatic movies about a plane crashing.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: So that's what Airplane was doing, was making fun of
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: those movies. So you can't do Austin Powers. Austin Powers
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: is making fun of James Bond. James Bond takes himself seriously.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: So you can't parody a parody. It's like a comedy rule.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: Everybody knows it.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: It would cancel itself out. Wouldn't you be back to
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: drama again?
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: You're out to some weird space because there's no anchor.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, Soul Plane is messed up in its inception.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: But they offered him a starring role in a movie,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: so of course he was going to take it. That's
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: not his fault. So I can't say he's the worst
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: dude ever, and I'm really glad to see what's happening
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: with him now. So for me, it was like, I
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: can't complain about politics and fucking racism and Kim Kardashian
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: and dumb shit. I can't talk about the world that
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: we're living in if I'm not willing to go stand
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: on a stage... And become a part of the conversation. And,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: you know, I have a daughter. My daughter is 22
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: months old. And that was probably the biggest, that's the thing.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: That's really what made me do it.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: That pushed it over the head.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Because I realized something, you know, just, I would say,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: 95 plus percent of everything you've ever heard me say was.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Scripted as part of another Those characters don't have anything
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: to do with me.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: Even if it's stuff you wrote, it's another character.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: It's another character, so it's not me. So I realized
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: that there is no record. I was like, man, if
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: something were to happen to me, I have a kid now,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: there would be no record of anything that in any
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: way relates to who the fuck I am.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: There's no version of you. Right. It's just you playing
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: other people.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: There's just me playing other people. And a lot of
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: my friends that are comedians have a 25-year record of
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: them saying shit they think, and now they're trying to
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: figure out how to do other people's shit.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: So I sort of.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Went like, well, I know how to be me, but
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: no one's ever really met that dude. So I kind
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: of would like to leave that legacy.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: For my kid.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: And since I'm a new parent and my kid's not
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: quite two yet, that's kind of what led me. I
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: think more than anything down the road, I was like, oh,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: you know, I have this new life and it's made
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: me want to talk about life. And it's also made
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: me see life, uh, in a different way than I've
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: ever seen, you know, life before. Like I'm kind of like,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like halfway an adult now.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: Progress.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I made some progress.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not claiming full adult ship, but now that I'm
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: halfway an adult, I'm like, man, I should probably talk
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: about some halfway adult shit.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: So that, that, that was really it.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: And, um, It's been an incredible experience, man. I've gotten
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: incredible love, man. Like I really, overwhelmingly so. And it's
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: something I'm, you know, I think, I don't know that
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: I'm going to stop now. It's something I'm really glad
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: I made time for. And I feel really, I genuinely
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: feel blessed and honored when people come out because I
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: know they haven't seen me before.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: Not you.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: So, not me.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: So, when somebody shows up, you know, pays their money,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: you know, hard-earned money, particularly in this economy, show up
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: and see you, like, that shit is humbling.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: You know, for me it is anyway. So I really,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: I really, I really fucking love it.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: And I really, I really want, you know, I want
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: to give people, I want them to feel like, yeah,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: that motherfucker, he was worried.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: That shit, okay, he put in work. You know what
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: I mean? Like, and that's a, that's a lot of fun, man.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: So I'm, I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying, you know, frankly
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: getting to do like what we're doing just vibing with
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: people you know because when you're behind the wall it's
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: kind of like Hollywood's like this other place man they
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: American cars.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Ain't no fat people. You know.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: It's a whole different world.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so it's been really great to get
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: and sit, to talk to people like you and in
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: many ways sort of get back in touch, really in
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: close touch with the kid that left Hollywood as a
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: teenager and went out there. Cause I would, I would,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: I might blow my brains out if I ever lost
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: that dude. Like I, that's my dude, you know, and
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: he likes to sit around and talk about graphic novels
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: and geeky shit.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: You know, and then what are you using to record
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: this podcast? Like, you know, like I'm in, I'm in,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: you know, that's my shit. So it's really kind of
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: dope to, to, to do it, man. So fuck. Thank you.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: That's cool.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: Be glad to tell people to go find you. What, what's,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: I guess you're doing both, as you said. You're shooting
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: movies and stand-up. Is your website the best place for
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: people to go find schedule or everything?
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, if you go to OrlandoJones.com, it'll send you.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: If you follow me on, you know, subscribe on Facebook
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: or Twitter or whatnot, I mean, I post.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: I was in a posting frenzy actually earlier today because
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: I was in Louisville and shit just started making me laugh.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: I'm in the South, so all that. It's a strange town.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: I haven't figured out yet. I've been here my whole
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: damn life.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: Dude, I went crazy on Twitter earlier, uh, in town. I,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: I admit it. I'm sorry. I hope I didn't offend nobody.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 5: Um, I can probably join in and make fun of
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: plenty of stuff.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: So, uh, do you guess, I mean, it was one
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: of those situations where I just couldn't, I couldn't resist
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden. I just started posting all kinds
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: of stupid shit. Um, of which I will share some
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: with you, I think.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: We can walk down the street and see a giant
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: baseball bat if you want.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy what's going on here.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: Colonel Sanders is buried over here. I can find some
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: good stuff for you.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: Gang violence in Kentucky. No Bloods and Crips. Hatfields and McCoys.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: Both of them have the same gang sign, middle fingers.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: I just saw the worst dressed gay dude ever. Obviously
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: gay men in Kentucky do manual labor. Where is Tom
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: Ford when you need him? Let's just see here. I
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: just told the waitress in a vegan restaurant I was vegan.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: She said, I'm sorry, I don't even ride motorcycles. Kentucky love.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: What?
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: That's true. That actually happened.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't surprise me.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: Here's the best one. I'm walking down the street in
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Louisville about three hours ago. Bus driver pulls over. Opens
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: the door. Orlando, what you doing walking down the street?
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: I get on the bus.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: She takes me to the vegan restaurant that I referenced.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: I hijacked a bus full of people.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't know it. And the people are like, where
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: are we going?
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: And she's like, sit down.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: It's Orlando.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: I got to be at work. What are you doing?
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I mean, she went off of
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: her fucking route. I was like, what is going on?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: So I tweet, hashtag my life, bus driver in Louisville
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: just stopping, asking where I was going. Now I'm pulling
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: up to a vegan restaurant with a bus full of people.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: You're all getting out and eating. Come on. Let's go.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: Which led me to some observations of people on the bus.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: Where I'm from, if you got buck teeth, you can't
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: get a city job.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: That's where you're wrong. Yeah.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know where I am in Louisville, but I
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: see a white castle and a pawn shop, so the
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: hood can't be.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Far from here.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: Sliders, man. You can't go wrong with that.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: You can't go wrong with that.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: Well, you can, but you still go eat them, don't you?
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: You do, man.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: I see why John Calipari's players only stay in college
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: one year. It's against the law to have a bachelor's degree.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: Settle down, Wildcats. Settle down. In 2012, we can be
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: relatives or cousins or family, but it's time to stop
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: being kin unless you have cunkles.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Cousins slash uncles.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: And my favorite, and the last of them, I think,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: they have a drink. They had a drink in this
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: bar that was in earlier called Hatfields and McCoys. I
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: asked the server what was in it. She said, anything
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: that'll make you fuck your cousins.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: Oh, Lord. I was like... Just bringing down stock for
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: the whole city.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, what did you just say?
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: See, usually I at least try to pretend like we're
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 5: a little better in the city here. If you leave
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: the city limits, it's a scary, scary place, and I
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: don't advise anybody to go there. There's pockets of civilization here,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: I swear to God.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, dude, by the way, I'm sorry. That is just
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: a great response. That is just a top-notch response, so that...
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: There's more coming. There will be more Madness tweeted out.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: I'm sure we will give you a lot of material.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: Don't worry.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's fun, man. It's really fun. Oh, man.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: Well, did you have anything else you need to pass
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: along to anybody? Upcoming projects to look for? Or just
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: come find you and watch the stand-up?
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: Enemies Closer will be out, I guess, next year.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: It's a Dark Castle movie, so I guess that's Warner.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: And my new show on ABC is called How to
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Live with Your Parents. So that will be next year
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: with Sarah Chalk from Scrubs and Brad Garrett and Melissa
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: Raymond and Elizabeth Perkins from Weeds and myself.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: So, da-zee, man.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: Sounds good to me.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: Da-zee.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: Well, I wanted to thank you for sitting in with
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: us this week and co-hosting and telling us your stories.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: Honestly, man, thank you. Thanks for inviting me. I've had
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: a great time. Appreciate it.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: And thank you to the Silback Hilton for letting us
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 5: crash in this room.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of cool, right?
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, very nice of them.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, maybe I should move into this room.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: This is a nice room.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just don't tell them. Just move all your stuff.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Sleep on the pool house over.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 5: So again, we have an oasis in the middle of
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: the idiocracy here.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 5: There's a nice place somewhere in this mess. You just
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: got to find it.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: It's good people here, man. I've met nothing but good people. Definitely.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: So I'm enjoying Kentucky.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: There's just some scary stuff going on. But amongst that,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: there's some good people out there.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: There's scary stuff going on everywhere, though. Oh, yeah. Trust me.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next week.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: Movie madness.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 7: Sometimes I feel I've got to run away. I've got
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 7: to get away from the pain you drive in the
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 7: heart of me. The love we share seems to go nowhere.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 7: I've lost my light. But I toss and turn, I
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 7: can't sleep at night.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: Once I ran to you.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 7: Now I run from you. This tainted love you've given.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: I give you all of what I could give you.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: Take my tears and that's not nearly how.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 10: Tainted love.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: Tainted love.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 7: No, I've got to run away. I've got to get away.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 7: You don't really want any more from me. You make
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 7: things right. You need someone to hold you tight.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: You think love is to play.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Once I ran to you Now I run from you This.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 7: Tainted love you give me I give you all of
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 7: what could give you Take my tears and that's not
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 7: Don't touch me please.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: I cannot stand the way.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 7: You see I love you though I hate you so
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 7: Now I'm gonna pack my things and go Such a
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 7: baby tainted love Such a baby tainted love Such a
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 7: baby tainted love Once I ran to you Now I
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 7: run from you This ain't love you give.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: And I give you.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: And it's got some parts in it. I mean, I
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: say some completely outlandish shit in this movie.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, he....
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: One of the first times I got the gloves off
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: and the director was like, yo, let's go for it.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: And I got to say stuff like, coach, I look
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: like I jacked off an elephant for a whole movie.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: They wouldn't let you say that on other movies?
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: No, man.
• 1:19:04
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• 1:19:07
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• 1:19:10
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• 1:19:13
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  Speaker 3: Talk hard!