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America’s brash spirit from our founders to the Trump Era · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  We are faith and fury.
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  Love and fire.
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  This is the human equation where every voice counts and every truth cuts deep.
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  With your host, Joseph Pangara.
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  Good evening, everybody, and welcome to the human equation.
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  I'm your host, Joseph Pangara.
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  So there's a lot of things going on in the world, in our country, crime-wise, war-wise, interpersonal-wise, it is really a never-ending situation we have here.
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  It's like this turbulence that goes on and on and on.
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  And I'm going to touch on some of these topics today.
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  Things that, as I started to look at them are connected to things that I do and what I talk about, things I've studied my whole life.
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  And things that I see as trending in the world and what do they mean?
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  So one of the first things I'm seeing is that as we as we start to move through this I guess second year of President Donald Trump's second term.
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  Basically, he's got two and a half years left to be president, and then he will be retired out of politics.
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  Now, he he does push a lot of buttons.
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  I know there's a lot of people on the left that absolutely lose their mind when he comes out and says, I might, I think there's a way I can run for a third term.
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  And they really go crazy.
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  So is it possible he could run for a third term?
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  I don't know.
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  I haven't studied it enough.
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  Are there any loopholes in the laws?
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  Are there any ways around it?
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  You know, people have been creative.
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  Well, J.D.
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  Vance could run for president and he could win and choose Trump as his vice president, which would be permissible.
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  Then J.D.
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  Vance could step down and Trump would be the president again.
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  Now, while that is an interesting concept, I couldn't imagine anyone going through the ordeal of running for president to win the election and then say, okay, I'm gonna step down from president of the United States so that my predecessor can have a third term.
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  I I just I really don't see that.
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  That's as realistic.
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  Is it possible?
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  Sure it is.
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  It's possible.
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  But I I see as we get closer to 2028, there's there's gonna be a shakeup.
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  Going to be a shakeup in the Republican Party in the MAGA movement, and the Bush wing of the party.
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  Now George H.W.
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  Bush and his son, George Jr., you know, I think that they were good men.
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  I think they were good men.
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  I think the problem is that a lot of us conservatives and those in the MAGA movement have that they're they're not very strong.
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  They're weak presidents.
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  They are uh, you know, white glove kind of guys.
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  They're not they're not a Donald Trump, and you can say a lot of things about Donald Trump.
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  You can say uh that he is brash, that he is uncontrolled in what he says, that he's uncouth, I've heard some people say.
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  Where the Bushes are they're very couth, they they're very um proper, as as most of most of our presidents have been proper.
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  Uh even Ronald Reagan, who is amazing, he was prone to say some things uh in a funny way that were different than other presidents, but pretty much he maintained that professional tone.
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  So I I see one of the problems that a lot of people have with Trump is they can't believe the things that he says and the way he says it.
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  And recently he was talking about Iran, and he was trying to get the uh IGRC, uh people that are left running the government, whoever's left that hasn't been killed in the strikes, uh, they are uh holding out to maintain their theocracy to maintain their government that they have, and they're not giving in.
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  Now, the reason that they're not giving in is because we don't have boots on the ground.
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  This is not a classic war.
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  So at one point there was uh, I believe they said there was a million individuals in their army, and we certainly haven't killed a million people in our raids.
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  What we've done is degrade their equipment, their facilities, their command and control.
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  To win a war, you have to uh you have to win the battle on the ground.
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  That's you have to take the land physically.
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  If we were to engage with troops in Iran, uh we would then engage in street fighting, we would find these million people, and we would be engaged with them in actual street fighting, hand-to-hand combat, just classic war kind of events.
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  Short of doing that, they can hunker down and hide uh in whatever facilities they have.
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  They can shoot whatever missiles they have left, they can shoot their drones, they can do a lot of things that uh can maintain some type of control, that they would keep some type of control.
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  But we're gonna see where that's going to go.
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  Uh, you know, they are definitely a danger, and and we can argue about that.
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  I know that that's one of the comments that I see a lot, is that uh people are fighting and arguing about they're not really a danger.
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  When you add up all of the people that have died as a result of Iranian actions, either directly through Iran's Iran's actions or through their proxies, it's thousands and thousands of people, and and there's uh thousands of Americans who have died at the hands of these people.
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  And to think that they would not continue in that manner is is really just foolish.
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  So, was this the opportune time for Trump to do this?
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  Well, who's gonna do it?
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  The next president that we get, unless it's someone who is strong like him, it's probably gonna go back to to the days they're gonna make deals, they're gonna ship the Iranians you know, tons of cash.
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  They're going to you know make stupid deals with them that they'll lie and cheat about, and they'll rebuild their forces.
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  And once again, they will go about killing innocent people in their path to a caliphate and a jihad against the West.
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  It's pretty obvious uh that that's exactly what would happen.
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  So I I don't want to stray away from from my point about 2028 coming up.
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  And what we're seeing is I think Trump realizes that yes, he has two and a half years, and he's gonna he's gonna run that right out to the very last day, doing what he can do in his mind to make America great again, to strengthen America, to set America right against all the countries of the world.
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  So what we're seeing with NATO is a pretty good example.
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  Here we are putting in trillions of dollars into NATO over the years.
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  Here we are uh constantly supporting them in conflicts around the world.
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  Whenever NATO needed us, boy, here we we come, our our men and women and our money come running.
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  All we needed them to do for us was to help us clear the straits of Hormuz so they can get the oil that they need, and they turned us down flat.
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  Now there's a coalition of now saying that they might help, they might do this, they might do that.
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  The bottom line is when we needed them for something that was less than red hot, they weren't there.
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  This is the greatest indicator of where they would be if something was red hot.
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  Uh unless it affected them directly and needed us to go uh fight and die in their country to protect them.
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  I don't think any of them would be there.
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  And that is really a telling point about the place that the world is.
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  So I am a person who looks to history.
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  There's an old saying that says, if something has happened once before, it's more likely to happen again.
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  So if we look at the history, uh modern history of world war, we see how there's these uh pushes and pauses that things build to the point of a conflict, and then that conflict boils over into some kind of a of a hot war where thousands, if not millions of people are killed, borders are changed, cities are destroyed, lives are up-ended.
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  And then there's some kind of a victory.
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  Uh, because that's the only thing that stops a war is that there's an absolute victory, one way or another.
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  Uh, other than that, it continues to fester in the background.
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  So after World War One, you could say that uh, you know, the the rising power that led to World War II, uh, Hitler and the Nazis, they were festering in the humiliation and the loss in World War One, and it caused lots of problems, and and you saw that how these different governments reacted to each other, and they got nervous.
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  They the idea of you know the war was terrible, so they're afraid to get involved in conflict.
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  So as Hitler was building up his army, people were appeasing him, figuring, oh, if we just pease the guy, let him let him let him build uh you know up his army, but he's not gonna do anything with it, to the point that he was too strong to stop them, and then it boiled over again, the conflict boiled over.
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  When people like that, dictators, and I'm not talking specifically about Hitler, that's not a thing, but people like him, that are these dictatorial tyrannical kind of rulers that we've seen throughout history.
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  Uh the reality is once they get uh a sense that their enemies or the ones that they want to conquer or take advantage of, once they sense those people are weak, that is what spurs them on to attack.
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  That is that is how those attacks take place.
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  So when we see the weakness of the West, the current weakness of the West, we see uh Sormer in the United Kingdom.
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  We see even in Italy, I I was so surprised that uh this woman, you know, back down the way she did.
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  Uh and they all have pressure at home, and and we know most of those countries are going socialists, so you know it's not the it's not the red-blooded, uh, you know, freedom-loving people we had in the past.
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  Europe is is pretty much giving way to a Muslim invasion, which they've opened up their doors for, uh, and they're gonna set suffer the consequences of that, because history tells us how that goes as well.
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  But when we see all of these uh these European countries getting weaker and weaker and weaker, and we see an anomaly like Trump.
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  I'm going to I'm gonna make an analogy that I'm sure some of you who have Trump derangement syndrome aren't going to be able to functionally think about.
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  Uh, but I'm gonna make the analogy anyway.
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  If you think of the way the world was, and what I have said uh consistently for for every time I've had a platform for for the years I've had a platform, is that when I look at people in general, humanity, I see that the default position of humanity is to live uh under a tyrannical ruler, a dictator, a king, a czar.
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  Uh that is how humanity has survived for most of its existence.
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  There's been some kind of a ruler.
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  Uh some of them were mildly benevolent, but most of them were not.
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  Uh, and they destroyed the civilization, they fought with each other.
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  Uh we've seen the destruction of civilizations throughout all of human history.
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  And it is only when America came along, and the wisdom and the providence of the uh of our forefathers who hobbled out this nation only 250 years ago.
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  Uh, my father-in-law is 92, right?
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  So just about two of his lives ago, America was just getting started, you know, give or take 60 or 70 years.
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  So when you look at that, you say America was a very unique um uh addition to the world.
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  We we shook up the entire world.
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  We changed the flow.
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  We've changed the uh default position in America, at least for a while, of living under a tyrannical government.
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  We've had a government by and for the people for the most part.
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  We have seen that change over the years from the forefathers' vision and how they envisioned it, to uh, you know, how we've come to today.
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  You think about the Boston Tea Party, throw it a tea in there because we're not gonna be taxed by that.
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  Well, that was like a 4% tax on tea.
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  Now, how much are you taxed?
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  You you tax 60, 70% of everything you make uh is taxed and goes to the government, right?
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  So slowly but surely there's that creep, that incremental creep of tyranny, whether it is economic tyranny or whether it is uh, you know, uh freedom tyranny that we we all fear.
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  Those kind of things happen naturally.
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  Uh I've also posited a few times that I think one of the things that leads to this weakness and this this giving in to weakness is when we have abundance.
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  You know, we look uh, you know, uh there was a time, and I mentioned my father-in-law, Ted, who's a very good man, he's 92, but when he was a kid, there were multiple families lived in one house, and you struggled every single day just to make sure you had shelter, you had food, and you had some kind of security.
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  So really people were battling um Maslow's hierarchy of needs, you know, that bottom baseline, uh food, water, shelter, and security.
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  Uh that's what that was their everyday experience.
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  And because of that, they maintained um a family was important.
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  They maintained a sense of morals, they maintained a religiosity which helped them through the difficult times, right?
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  Uh they they turned to uh to a god to help them uh figure out what was going on and how to uh make their lives work.
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  As we got more and more prosperous in the 60s, we saw an abundance of everything.
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  No longer were people worrying minute to minute about their survival, about how am I going to eat tonight?
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  How am I gonna feed my family?
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  Do I have shelter?
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  That pretty much moved along to a point of abundance.
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  Now, that doesn't mean everybody had a beach house.
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  What it meant is that these things were easier to come by than they had been in generations past.
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  Shelter, food, security, that kind of thing.
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  Once we had abundance, then we could think about other things.
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  Because this is this is the basis of understanding, and I'm sure you all heard of it in high school, right?
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  Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
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  If if you don't have your basic needs met as a human being, and those basic needs are shelter, food, and security.
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  If those things are not met in your life, then how can you do anything else?
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  If you're always worried about somebody coming and hurting you or hurting your family, how do you do anything else?
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  If you don't have enough food and drink for everyone to eat and drink every day and maintain a healthy, you know, stay healthy with something to eat, right?
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  Maintain a uh physicalness, right?
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  How can you do anything else?
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  You can't.
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  Um, and if you don't have shelter, then you're fighting just to live every day.
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  You're not doing anything greater.
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  So when it comes to humanity, once we have overcome, and throughout historical periods, we have overcome those kind of basic needs.
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  Societies have grown in many places where people had the things they needed.
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  And uh what you saw there was that, okay, we now have a bunch of stuff.
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  We can think about other things like art.
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  We can create great art now.
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  We can create literature, we can do all kinds of other things, we can think about our position in the world, our place in the universe, because we're not struggling to eat, have shelter, and be secure.
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  So I saw that in America as we approached the 60s and the 1960s, and I saw that as America became more and more prevalent, more and more technologically advanced, we were powerful, we had a very good economy.
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  Then you saw the young people who didn't have to struggle for shelter, for food and for security, you saw them start to think about other things.
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  They saw unfairness in the way the can the country was uh founded.
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  They saw unfairness in how people treated each other, they saw all of these things to fight back out against, to uh, you know, take up arms, so to speak, and go into the street and change the society.
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  Well, if all of those people were back, you know, four generations earlier, where they were busy trying to find food every day, shelter, water, and and make sure nobody came and hurt them, they wouldn't have time to be sitting around thinking about, oh, that's not right.
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  America is evil the way these forefathers put us together, right?
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  So that's that's the pattern that I see happening over and over and over.
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  Now, when you take an evil, tyrannical, dictatorial kind of personality or government, right?
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  Like you have in socialism, in communism, in uh uh in Nazism, those kind of things, they prey on people who have this outrage, who feel they've been done wrong, who feel there's an injustice, and they offer a voice of justice to those who feel aggrieved.
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  We saw that what Hitler's you know rose up and he said it wasn't right, what happened, and I'm gonna bring Germany back to its its rightful place in the world, and and we were treated poorly uh at the end of World War II, and we're gonna take that, we're gonna get our dignity back.
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  And people flocked to that.
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  Now, at the time they didn't know he was a murderous uh psychopath.
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  They just thought he was giving voice to how they felt, and they felt like underdogs, and he was gonna help them to feel better again.
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  We see this over and over and over again.
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  The Bolshevik revolutions, what was that all about?
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  That was that that was these leaders coming forward saying, You're not treated fair.
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  I'm gonna bring, we're gonna treat everyone's gonna have the good stuff, right?
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  They're not just the rich people, and we see that message uh people cling to that message during that.
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  We saw that in Cuba.
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  We saw Cuba when Castro rose up and he was to the people we're we're not being treated right.
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  Look at the rich bourgeois people, and we're gonna overthrow them and we're gonna have our paradise here, workers' paradise, and then quickly um right after taking power.
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  Soon thereafter he fell into the tyrannical line of government.
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  You know, kill your enemies, wipe everybody out, you have all the power, everyone else is there to do your bidding.
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  This is the pattern that happens over and over and over again in humanity.
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  The problem is, as I see it, is that not everybody sits back and thinks about that.
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  Look how today's modern leftist can be uh I'm talking, you know, from from the young kids in high school all the way through to college kids through the young adults that are out there, the people who are out there raging against ice, the people who are out there raging against Trump, the people are out there raging against um, you know, uh being pro-American and having pride in your country.
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  Uh they are easily being manipulated and played by these people who have these maniacal uh thoughts in the back of their head.
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  So recently on on social media, I saw um a Muslim cleric, and he was he was from one of the terrorist groups, and he was giving an interview somewhere, and they said to him, Well, you know, when you see America, you know, who do you prefer?
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  Do you prefer the conservatives uh to be, you know, uh to be in charge of the government, or do you prefer the liberals?
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  And he says, Oh, we completely we completely prefer the liberals to be in charge.
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  Because first of all, they're easy to manipulate.
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  Number two, uh morally they fall apart, and then we can step in and do what we have to do, and that is how we're going to take over in many of these countries, right?
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  We're going to step into that void.
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  So this is this is something that's been repeated over over and over.
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  So when I see America, and I'm sorry I'm talking quickly today, I just have a lot on my mind.
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  Um, when we see America was unique in all of the world, of world history of governments and and nations and whatnot.
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  You see that because it was something that was unique.
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  It was brash, it was loud, it was bold, it broke the rules.
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  It did different things, and that led to our country, and that led to uh all of the things that we did.
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  You know, I was just watching a great great uh TV series uh called The West by uh Kevin Costner.
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  Really good.
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  It's a little biased, it's a little biased against white uh settlement, but in general, it's a pretty good history lesson on the the the economy and how the country was formed and um you know fighting against the Native Americans and and how the country expanded uh and all that kind of stuff.
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  It was really, really good.
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  But it showed you once again, the the American the American dream, the uh American uniqueness was to come upon this continent that was considered, you know, brand new, uh virgin land and to go out there and create the nation that would uh one day lead the world in everything.
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  Now, what it does tell a good story of, if you're interested in a good show, it does tell the story of how the Native Americans uh were pretty much disregarded.
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  Uh, you know, it was nice that they were there, but you know, they were they they were gonna get they were gonna get churned under the wheels of progress of manifest destiny.
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  Um, and it goes through the different wars and the different uh Native American leaders, some absolutely amazing uh people that fought against the the military.
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  Um I found it very interesting and very informative.
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  Uh uh, but it also showed that America, that American um trait that we have of, you know, we don't back down, we don't stop down, we go forward.
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  We we create everything, right?
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  We we bring the world forward, we drag the world forward.
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  That's where it comes from the founding of our country.
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  And just like I see America being that brash, loud uh non-conformist uh nation that changed the face of the planet, no doubt about it, uh, in every in every aspect of human endeavor was changed by America being here and the people or the Americans who who did all these things.
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  I see Donald Trump as the same kind of a person.
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  Now, this is where I know our left-wing friends right now, their heads popping, they're they're they're there's digging thing at the mouth, they're calling me names.
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  I'm not equating the greatness of America with the greatness of Donald Trump.
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  That's not what I'm saying.
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  What I'm saying is that when we look at America, and we look at America being brash and doing things that cut against the grain of how the world had always done things, uh, the nobility of all the uh European countries with their with their kings and their queens, the way they saw the world, and and then here comes upstart America doing it completely different, shoving out the British, get out.
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  This is our country now, and fighting, right?
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  And winning and beating the most powerful nation on the earth at the time.
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  Because of our tenacity and who we were as Americans.
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  Well, I see Donald Trump is just like that.
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  He's brash, he's loud, he says things, maybe sometimes inarticulately.
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  Maybe he says them in a way that, geez, you know, presidents really shouldn't talk like that.
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  I hear I hear people saying that.
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  Presidents really shouldn't talk the way he talks.
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  You know, recently he said to Iran, if they did not accept a deal, come to the table and figure out how to stop this war, he was going to obliterate them, send them back to the stone age.
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  Now, that is a pretty powerful thing to say, and I know a lot of people are shaken to their core when they hear Donald Trump say that.
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  First, they're shaken because Donald Trump said it, so it's all got to be bad.
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  But for any president of the United States to say that, to basically threaten the power of the United States to destroy an entire nation, is very scary for people.
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  But that's brash.
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  That's bold, and that apparently has driven some in the Iranian government to come to the table, that maybe we better figure out how to do this before this guy rolls over the whole place and takes out all of them.
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  Right?
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  Now, I don't trust them for one second.
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  I think the Iranians are just buying time.
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  I think they're gonna lie, they're gonna cheat, they're gonna try and find some way to get back to where they were.
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  But I equate America's brashness and Trump's brashness with something uniquely American.
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  All right, I'm gonna I'll talk about more of that when we come back from our break.
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  So let's take a quick break and we'll see you in a minute.
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• 30:22
  All right, welcome back, everybody.
• 30:24
  I was on a roll there a little bit.
• 30:26
  I I have a lot of my notes here.
• 30:28
  I didn't get to a lot of the stuff.
• 30:30
  A lot of my thoughts just uh, you know, kind of take off.
• 30:33
  Uh I really did like that show.
• 30:35
  You really want to, it's it's really a good show to go see, The West by Kevin Costner.
• 30:40
  Really very interesting.
• 30:41
  And one of the reasons I find it so interesting is that anybody who's listened to any of my programs in the past knows that in my bloodline are Native Americans.
• 30:52
  Uh my grandmother, uh, my grandmother Hazel, her and her whole family were were from Connecticut, and Hazel's mother um was named Rosewater.
• 31:03
  Um and I think I think they were from we're trying we're still trying to figure it out because none of the relatives are left uh that really know uh you know who which exact tribes they were from, but they were Mohawk Indians, I believe, and from and which was part of the blackfeet nation, I think.
• 31:20
  That's what we've been told.
• 31:21
  That's our research kind of told us.
• 31:23
  So I don't I don't have Elizabeth Warren kind of uh kind of uh Native American blood in my body, but I do have probably more than she does, because let's see, let's look back.
• 31:34
  If it was um if it was my great-grandmother Rosewater, and she was full Native American, that would make my grandmother Hazel 50%, right?
• 31:46
  Because uh Rosewater married an Irish guy uh here in America, an Irish uh immigrant.
• 31:52
  Um so that would make my grandmother Hazel 50%, and then Hazel's children, which would be my mother and all her sisters and brothers, they would be 25%.
• 32:02
  Um so I guess that would make me 12%, 10%, right?
• 32:08
  And then my children 5%, and it diminishes from there.
• 32:12
  Um I just find that an interesting thing.
• 32:14
  I just mentioned that because this show was so amazing to watch and see, you know, we have this idea of of how the country was founded, and it's been bastardized over years, it's been biased over over the years that you know the the American people, the white Europeans were just evil, evil people who did horrible things.
• 32:35
  Uh for no reason other than they were horrible and they hated everyone who who didn't look like them.
• 32:40
  And that's really I'm not gonna say the 100% truth.
• 32:46
  Was there some of that?
• 32:47
  Yes.
• 32:48
  Did a lot of the European settlers that came around the world feel they were superior to uh to these other cultures, African American cultures in Africa, uh, Native American cultures in America, the islands.
• 33:03
  I I think they did, I think they did see themselves as superior because they were more advanced, right?
• 33:10
  Their civilization was more advanced.
• 33:13
  Um, you know, building-wise, you know, uh my Native American relatives were living in teepees, living a very nomadic life um here in in the Americas, where in Europe they had castles for hundreds of years, they had armies, they had mechanized uh warfare.
• 33:30
  Does that make them better?
• 33:32
  I don't think it makes them better.
• 33:33
  It I think it just if you you live that kind of a lifestyle in houses and castles and you have economies and navies and all that kind of stuff, and you come and you find a people that don't have that, uh, I think they would it would give them a tendency to think they were better than those people.
• 33:50
  And so therefore I think that was some of the bias um that they had against Native Americans, African Americans, and other groups that they encountered around the world.
• 33:59
  They were very advanced civilization in Europe.
• 34:02
  You know, we can't say that they they weren't, you know.
• 34:04
  We had uh, you know, look at look at Italy and look at the art.
• 34:07
  Look at the Roman Empire.
• 34:09
  You know, you look at the Roman Empire and how uh as bad things that they did.
• 34:14
  Uh they were absolutely amazing in how they conquered the world, their building, their art, everything about them was was absolutely amazing.
• 34:24
  Um and sure, you could look at the Egyptians too and look what they did, right?
• 34:28
  And there's a big argument there.
• 34:29
  Well, they're it you can argue what I want.
• 34:32
  That civilization was absolutely amazing, uh, the building that they did, etc., etc.
• 34:37
  So, in general, my point being is that I enjoyed that show because it it showed me uh a lot of things I didn't realize.
• 34:46
  We were all told that, you know, the settlers came here and basically just wiped out the Indians, just killed them, treated them horribly, uh, and destroyed them.
• 34:55
  A lot of that is true, you know, in in the long run, the conflict led to that, uh, and they did push them along.
• 35:04
  Uh they did they were brutal to them when they took them over.
• 35:07
  But what this show demonstrated, what this show demonstrated, I mean to get off on the show, but it's it's we're talking about America and the history of America, is that the Native American populations, there were so many different groups, tribes of uh nations of people all across this country, all across this land, the continent of North America.
• 35:32
  And some of them were agrarians, some of them were peace-loving, some of them were very, very much brutal warriors.
• 35:39
  Uh and when the uh the European settlers started moving across the United States, uh they certainly didn't see it as well.
• 35:49
  This this belongs to these people.
• 35:51
  This is their nation.
• 35:52
  You know, we're we're going, we're treading on their nation.
• 35:55
  They didn't see it that way because I believe uh their history, you know, they were used to Europe, where they had castles and where they had uh, you know, uh much more advanced uh civilizations as far as things, right?
• 36:09
  Doesn't mean the people here were not smart and brilliant uh and have their own rituals, their own lifestyles, their everything with that was also advanced, but without the um I don't know what you you know, the the accoutrement of being advanced, so to speak.
• 36:24
  I guess that's the way to say it.
• 36:26
  And as they pushed across, they basically saw the Native Americans as people to be moved along.
• 36:31
  You know, we have this land now, we're taking it.
• 36:34
  And when we look at it with our our eyes today, we see how, gee, that was really wrong.
• 36:42
  But at the time, uh, we're talking about the the nature of humanity.
• 36:47
  All across Europe, countries did that.
• 36:49
  They took each other over, they fought each other.
• 36:52
  Uh the world is rife with these battles.
• 36:54
  Who took land from who?
• 36:56
  Uh, and then even here, in the in the Americas, the Native American cultures, who attacked who, who took over who, who confiscated whose women and children, and forced them into their care, who enslaved people all over the world.
• 37:10
  These are not uniquely American uh sins.
• 37:14
  These sins are part of the human equation.
• 37:18
  This is what people did to each other throughout time and memorium.
• 37:23
  And here in America, we did the exact same thing.
• 37:26
  Only the settlers who came here had the wherewithal, had the ability, had the finances, whatever you want to say they had, the technology to overcome the native populations.
• 37:39
  And some of the people that I saw in this show, like Red Cloud was this amazing uh chief who basically won the first real uh battles against the United States military because of his brilliance in battle.
• 37:56
  Uh really, so it was very interesting to see all that.
• 37:59
  Ultimately, as we know, uh the Native Americans lost the battle to to the American government, and what has been called manifest destiny, meaning once these people got here, it was their destiny uh to rule the land from one side of the continent to the other.
• 38:19
  And I think that played out in time.
• 38:22
  That's the they called it, they named it Manifest Destiny, and it that's exactly what happened.
• 38:28
  So uh I found that very, very interesting.
• 38:30
  So if you want to go see that, uh I highly recommend it because it is really illuminative.
• 38:36
  Again, I think some of it is really biased against the uh Europeans who came here.
• 38:43
  Um in any instance that it seemed, any instance in which they could throw negative shade at the uh settlers, they did.
• 38:51
  Um and they kind of glossed over the fact that um the Native Americans were brutal to each other and they were brutal to the to the uh to the settlers and the settlers were brutal to them.
• 39:03
  So I'm not saying that.
• 39:05
  But it was interesting in that some of the big battles that were caused is because the the Native American peoples, led by their chiefs and their councils, whatever, thought they could fight back against the settlers.
• 39:17
  They really did, they thought, you know, they they they did a lot of uh guerrilla warfare where they snuck up on an encampment and they killed a bunch of people and then they brutalize them.
• 39:26
  They they you know cut the bodies up, put them on display.
• 39:30
  The things people have done for time immemorium.
• 39:33
  That's what human beings do to each other.
• 39:34
  Well, they did it here too.
• 39:36
  Um, but they thought that they could they could turn the tide in many of these huge battles between the Native American populations and the burgeoning American uh settlement and government.
• 39:50
  They thought they could fight back because they won some battles here and there.
• 39:54
  And over time, Manifest Destiny just overwhelmed them, and the technology.
• 40:00
  Uh that the settlers brought with them, the numbers of people was just overwhelming.
• 40:05
  Uh and it would it would it's a it's a great program to get a perspective, maybe that you might not get a complete perspective on how all of this came to be.
• 40:17
  It's it's I give Mr.
• 40:18
  Costner a uh a lot of kudos for putting it together.
• 40:21
  Like I said, I think it's a little bit biased, but I think for the majority of it, it it paints a true picture of what happened and who did what to who and how it went.
• 40:31
  So in that way, my bigger point here is that America was so different that I think the manifest destiny is like a clarion call about what America is.
• 40:45
  You know, uh people have conquered each other forever, but we came here and conquered not only the people who were already here, but we conquered the land itself, and we turned it into uh the greatest nation that the world has ever seen.
• 40:59
  The most benevolent nation the world had ever seen, the most just nation the world has ever seen.
• 41:05
  Even if you're sitting in your mom's basement right now in your underwear taking notes, and you don't think America is just, uh, where else would you like to go that you think is better?
• 41:14
  Because I think you should get on a plane or a train and go there.
• 41:17
  Because this is the best place that the world has ever known.
• 41:21
  Um do we still have things to fix?
• 41:23
  We do.
• 41:24
  Of course we do, but uh it still is the greatest nation that has ever been.
• 41:29
  So that's a long way of covering what I'm trying to say is that America is brash, America's an upstart, America said and did things that the rest of the world said, hey, you can't do that, and so does Donald Trump.
• 41:44
  And I think that's one of the reasons that so many people like him.
• 41:48
  They don't particularly like the things he says sometimes.
• 41:52
  Like, do I think it's it was great for a president to say he would obliterate them and knock them back to the stone age?
• 41:59
  No, that's something you and I say to each other because that's how people talk, right?
• 42:03
  And that's what they deserve to have happen to them.
• 42:05
  Not the Iranian people, the government, right?
• 42:09
  The government, the uh the Taliban, uh the Taliban, the uh, you know, the leaders, the the mullahs and whatnot in Iran.
• 42:15
  They deserve to be knocked out, removed.
• 42:18
  They are evil, bad people.
• 42:20
  The people of Iran are good and decent people for the most part.
• 42:22
  I think they're very uh they're very intelligent and you know wonderful people, if they were given their freedom.
• 42:29
  Um so when I see I I'm juxtaposing America and Trump as of the same cloth.
• 42:36
  And that is why I think a lot of people like Donald Trump, because he is brash.
• 42:42
  He does say things.
• 42:43
  You you can't doubt that uh if he sets a line in the sand and you cross it, you're gonna get a bloody nose, as opposed to many, many, many of our previous presidents who meant well, and you know, oh, we're gonna we're gonna do this if you do that, and you know, okay, maybe there was some uh pushback, but then okay, stop, that's enough, you know, it doesn't look good.
• 43:07
  And us, the American people, you know, we lose, we we have no stomach sometimes for doing the things that have to be done.
• 43:14
  Because we feel the rest of the world is like America, and if we're just fair and we're just nice and we're decent to people, then they'll be good to and instead people will just kill you, uh, like just like going out into the streets of uh of any one of our major cities and have uh a group of three or four uh thugs get together who want to rob you and your wife, and you could say, oh, listen here, I'll give you 50 bucks, you know, you know, thanks, you know, I hope you guys have a better life.
• 43:40
  You think they're gonna, hey, thanks a lot, man.
• 43:42
  That's cool.
• 43:43
  No, they're gonna rape Rob and murder you.
• 43:46
  And uh you're not gonna be able to do anything about it, because evil in all its forms, from minor evil, like robbers, to major evil, like uh the leaders of Iran, these people do not see weakness as something to be uh coddled.
• 44:06
  Sorry.
• 44:07
  They see weakness as something to be used against you.
• 44:11
  And Donald Trump doesn't do that.
• 44:14
  So that's a long riff there to make that connection that I was trying to make.
• 44:20
  Because as I'm talking about 2028, and as we go forward, uh who do we have that is strong?
• 44:29
  Who would you even consider would be strong?
• 44:32
  Now, maybe not the personality of Donald Trump in the things he says, the way he says it, the jokes he makes about people, the offhand comments that he says, the things he says.
• 44:44
  But who is strong like him?
• 44:47
  Well, I think um I think we have some choices on our bench that we have to look at.
• 44:53
  Obviously, J.D.
• 44:54
  Vance, a really amazing young man, and Marco Rubio, very clearly an amazing guy, strong, uh articulate, uh well refined, you know, the two of them are really excellent.
• 45:11
  Um Governor DeSantis down in Florida, another one.
• 45:14
  Uh smart guy, strong guy, not afraid to uh you know, do what he has to do, speaks clearly, but he's also refined.
• 45:22
  And he he he's he speaks in a more traditional politician kind of a way, where Trump does not.
• 45:30
  So if one of those three ended up being our president, I think we have a chance to continue to make America great and make sure we have our place in the world where we we deserve to be respected, not taken advantage of, where we deserve to be feared by our enemies to know that if they if they are going to try and do something to hurt us or our allies, they will suffer twice as bad.
• 45:57
  Um I think somebody like that would be good.
• 46:00
  And I don't, like I said, I think the Bushes were good people, but you got you have to look.
• 46:05
  They were better than the Democrats that the choice we had with the Democrats that were running against them, but in the long run, they were not very strong.
• 46:14
  You know, they weren't, you know, really super strong people.
• 46:18
  Um, you know, George uh George Bush uh going after, you know, the the uh going after Afghanistan and the Taliban and all these terrorists that flew the planes into our buildings.
• 46:30
  You know, that was pretty strong.
• 46:31
  He did a pretty good job there.
• 46:32
  But in general, you wouldn't see him or his brother Jeb or or other politicians like him.
• 46:40
  Uh you wouldn't see them in a street fight for you and me.
• 46:44
  You wouldn't see them being very, very strong that way.
• 46:47
  They would uh they would take compromise and they would worry about going to the to the cocktail parties and they want to get along with our friends on the other side of the aisle.
• 46:56
  And our friends on the other side of the aisle would just annihilate you any chance they get.
• 47:01
  They stick together, they they circle their wagon, so to speak.
• 47:05
  Uh they're already saying now, they're already telling us now.
• 47:08
  Uh, and they lectured us when Trump was one, you better not, you better not come after us, you better not use the government again.
• 47:14
  And they're already saying now, wait till you see what happens in 2028.
• 47:18
  When we take back the Congress, we are gonna impeach him, we are gonna go after Pam Bondi, we're gonna go after everybody, all his followers, we're gonna go after all of you, and and all of you people at that No Kings march, um, you're looking at that going, that's right, we're gonna you're gonna abuse power when we get it and come after Trump and his people.
• 47:38
  Um that's very hypocritical, right?
• 47:41
  That's very hypocritical.
• 47:42
  So my point being in 2028, as we move along to the to the midterms coming up to determine which way the Congress is gonna go.
• 47:54
  If the American people decide they want to go back to the Joe Biden ways, they want to go back to the Bush era, they want to go back to that kind of politics.
• 48:02
  Um our country's gonna fall apart, dictators around the world are gonna be stronger, America's gonna be weaker, you'll endanger yourself, your family, and everyone else by having that kind of leadership.
• 48:15
  Uh that's what I see as a problem.
• 48:17
  But if we can get a good president, and I certainly like JD Vance and Rubio, uh, I think they're great, DeSantis.
• 48:25
  There's a couple other very, very strong Republicans I think would be great, Jim Jordan.
• 48:29
  I think uh he'd be awesome, uh, as opposed to anybody on the left who would basically turn our our country backwards over the hill back into the ditch, as Mr.
• 48:38
  Obama said, uh open the borders, make deals with dictators and put us in danger, destroy our military, defund our police, and basically allow crime to go crazy.
• 48:49
  Now, why do I say that?
• 48:50
  Because I just hate everybody on the left.
• 48:52
  I don't hate anybody.
• 48:53
  I have seen what these people do when they have power.
• 48:58
  That is why I hold the positions that I do.
• 49:01
  I was very open-minded as a young person.
• 49:03
  I said, oh, let me see.
• 49:04
  Oh, I think those Republicans are bad.
• 49:06
  I've been told they're bad, so I think they're bad.
• 49:09
  And then I saw what Ronald Reagan actually did.
• 49:11
  And I said, you know what?
• 49:12
  This guy's pretty good.
• 49:13
  He's really trying to make the country better.
• 49:15
  And then the country was better.
• 49:17
  We were stronger militarily, our economy boomed for 20 years.
• 49:21
  And I said, wow, that guy was amazing.
• 49:23
  And I see every time a Democrat administration takes over, we see the inevitable reversal, things go downhill, the whole country goes downhill, we have all kinds of problems economically, militarily, etc.
• 49:36
  And then they bring in another Republican and they fix things for a little while.
• 49:40
  But there's always, there's always that fear, that push to go back to the default position where the liberals, left-wing socialists are in control, and that's how our country's gonna be.
• 49:52
  Now, for anybody who's listened to me for a while, you know that I believe a wholeheartedly in.
• 50:00
  In our our ability to vote for our leaders, and you get what you vote for.
• 50:05
  So if uh the next election comes up, and the people on the left make a case that the majority of Americans say, yeah, we want that.
• 50:15
  We want to go back to the Biden era.
• 50:17
  That's a better era than people say nasty things like Trump.
• 50:20
  If that's what they want to do, that's what the country's going to do.
• 50:24
  Uh, you know, they're gonna vote for that, and that's the way we're gonna go.
• 50:27
  Uh and I I, you know, I may not like it, but that is the way that it gets done.
• 50:33
  You have elections, and elections have consequences, right?
• 50:37
  So J.D.
• 50:38
  Vance and Rubio.
• 50:39
  Now, just as a quick aside, I didn't want to talk about this, but people are saying, okay, if it is those two guys, who would be the presidential candidate, and who would be the vice presidential candidate?
• 50:51
  And I gave that a lot of thought, and I said, you know what?
• 50:54
  I really like J.D.
• 50:55
  Vance, uh, but he was a senator for for a little bit of time, and then he's been the vice president, you know, for a term, and you keep thinking that, well, he's vice president, he's the one that should be president, and you know, Rubio should be the vice president, or you know, and then you've seen the magnificence of Marco Rubio.
• 51:15
  Now, I've always liked him.
• 51:16
  I've always thought he was articulate, smart, uh logical, uh, makes his case really, really strong.
• 51:22
  Seemed like a very good, decent man.
• 51:24
  And I'm saying, well, what's good for our country might be that it's uh Rubio in the top slot.
• 51:31
  But when you think about that, you say to yourself, okay, if Rubio was to take and be the lead the number one uh for president, would JD Vance be vice president again under this guy, or would he have to say, listen, uh I can't be the vice president again and step away from the seat of power?
• 51:51
  So I don't know if that's correct.
• 51:53
  Um so I think what I would like to see is J.D.
• 51:57
  Vance for president with uh Marco Rubio as vice president for eight years, and then Marco to step up to the big chair and have him go to uh president, and then DeSantis jump in as vice president.
• 52:10
  You know what I mean?
• 52:10
  I I see a succession of these these good and decent people.
• 52:14
  All right, so uh I think I think I covered that riff pretty good.
• 52:19
  And again, I apologize for talking so fast tonight.
• 52:22
  Um I'm just uh I'm just in one of those moods, and I wanted to get this stuff out there.
• 52:27
  So what else do I have on here?
• 52:29
  Well, our our uh spaceship is on its way back, right?
• 52:33
  They went up and circled the moon.
• 52:35
  Uh beautiful pictures, unbelievable detail.
• 52:38
  I think they said they had something like 30 cameras uh on the ship as it went around the dark side of the moon.
• 52:45
  And the conspiracy people are already saying, okay, if they went around the dark side of the moon, how come they only took still pictures?
• 52:52
  Why didn't they take video?
• 52:53
  Because they don't want us to see the hidden alien moon bases and all that stuff.
• 52:58
  Who knows?
• 52:58
  Maybe it's back there.
• 52:59
  But uh I didn't see anything like that, and I think uh somebody would have pointed that out.
• 53:04
  But that's amazing.
• 53:04
  I hope the crew gets back safely.
• 53:07
  Uh they're almost home, but uh you know, while we're sitting here talking to each other, uh I think they splashed down on Friday.
• 53:14
  Uh, and that's bringing us back to an active space program.
• 53:18
  I think that's great.
• 53:20
  Um let's see.
• 53:24
  Yeah, I was gonna talk about Iran more, but that's gonna take more time.
• 53:27
  I guess I'll just say this.
• 53:29
  We have this ceasefire.
• 53:31
  Now, you look at the history of ceasefires, they don't always go well.
• 53:35
  As a matter of fact, the Iranians are still shooting uh some rockets, still shooting some drones, and these spokespeople, whoever they are that are speaking for them say, well, you know, our communications aren't that good.
• 53:46
  We can't get the word out to everybody to knock it off and to stop right away.
• 53:49
  It's gonna take a while.
• 53:50
  Okay, maybe that's true.
• 53:52
  Um I do not trust them for one second.
• 53:56
  They are theocratic um psychopaths, and they are gonna do everything they can to delay and use this delay just like they use in Gaza when there's a ceasefire, they use it to build more tunnels, to reload, to re-rocket, get ready to go, and then they start hurling rockets and fighting again.
• 54:16
  So I don't know that these particular people in Iran in the leadership there that's now has any real uh desire to uh to stop the fighting, to give up power, uh, or to to treat their people decently and stop uh fighting all around.
• 54:34
  One of the things I thought was interesting was that in the list of demands that both sides put out to each other for a ceasefire, um, one of the ones was uh from the Iranians that said, all fighting uh in Lebanon will stop.
• 54:52
  Well, why do they care if there's fighting in Lebanon?
• 54:56
  They care because it's their proxies that are doing the fighting against Israel, and they don't want that fight to stop.
• 55:03
  See, they're not really saying, okay, let's have peace.
• 55:06
  They're trying to buy time, they're trying to trick, they're trying to use this as an opportunity to rebuild whatever they can so they can keep fighting, which is one of the reasons that makes a case for removing them completely, removing them completely.
• 55:26
  Um I don't want to put boots on the ground because that is gonna turn into a much longer conflict, but I think at the same time we have to encourage the Iranian people to rise up.
• 55:35
  If that means we have to supply them with weapons so that they can fight back in the streets of their of their country to take it back, we may have to do that.
• 55:43
  Um that's something that's been done many, many times in the past, but I don't see us putting boots on the ground for that.
• 55:49
  Keep hitting them with airstrikes, uh, find out where these people are, put out money on the street, millions of dollars to tell us where the IGRC uh leadership is sleeping tonight, right?
• 56:00
  And then go hit that.
• 56:01
  I think that might be the way to go.
• 56:03
  Um that's it.
• 56:05
  I was gonna get into uh an interesting case on Rex Hoyerman, the Gilgo Beach killer who pled guilty to eight murders.
• 56:15
  Uh and I'm gonna do a show on him in the future because I found him very, very interesting in what he did.
• 56:20
  But one of the things I noticed in his plea is that he has agreed to speak with the FBI behavioral science unit, which means they're gonna try and pick his brain apart and figure out what makes a serial killer so that we have some insight into the next one.
• 56:40
  All right, everybody, listen, thanks for being here.
• 56:43
  I don't want to go over my time.
• 56:44
  I appreciate you all being there.
• 56:46
  Uh, we'll see you down the road.