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EP190 - Jason X (Thirsty For Gore) · Thirsty For More - Movie Review

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  Speaker 1: Is he is he just did he just call himself
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  Speaker 1: Saint John because he's from there?
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  Speaker 2: Or I don't know he must be. I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he's from Saint John. No, I don't,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I truck.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, welcome to Thirsty for Gordon.
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  Speaker 2: I of course him your host, Milane.
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  Speaker 1: And I am Jason's.
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  Speaker 2: Nice to meet you.
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  Speaker 1: New Line Cinema's Jace and Moors.
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  Speaker 2: The last movie How did you Guess?
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  Speaker 1: Was New Line Cinema Was was the first movie to
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  Speaker 1: not be produced by Paramount and to be produced by
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  Speaker 1: by a New Line Cinemas.
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  Speaker 2: How did you guess this movie? With the mencusa family
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  Speaker 2: still involved.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. Actually, no, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: This movie, this movie is terrible.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's actually honestly, I gotta say, like, well, go
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  Speaker 1: I get into it. I was like, man, like, I
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  Speaker 1: remember it being really bad, but then I was watching it,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm actually kind of
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed this.
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  Speaker 2: I remember being really bad, and then it was really bad. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean I really think it was really bad. We'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about it because now I have to defend this
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  Speaker 2: because you thought I was gonna be like Auntie, Jason
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  Speaker 2: goes to hell, I'm pro this, You're pro this. I'm
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  Speaker 2: pro this.
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  Speaker 1: Because like I thought you'd be like into it because
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  Speaker 1: of the Star Trek lore, you know, you know, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of like a Star Trek episode, like a
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  Speaker 1: horror Star Trek, more.
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  Speaker 2: Like like Firefly or Battles the Galaxy. It's more like, no, really,
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  Speaker 2: it kind of has like it kind of has like
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  Speaker 2: a little Babylon five. Dude, totally, and it like also
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  Speaker 2: like Buffy the Vampire Slayer kind of vibe. And Harry
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  Speaker 2: meant Freddy for Denis.
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  Speaker 1: He came back making making new sounds in the two thousands.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you know, No, I gotta update it. I
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  Speaker 3: gotta update the work because it's not like nineteen seventies, Jason.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's more like two thousand and I think it's
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  Speaker 3: like two thousand and two or something. Yes, we all
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  Speaker 3: know that hockey is out a lot in twenty twenty forty.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, dude, twenty twenty four, this is the year hockey.
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  Speaker 2: Hockey gets a lot, Dude.
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  Speaker 1: They've got one more riots in the streets of Canada, dude.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of streets of Canada, mister David Cronberg appearing as
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  Speaker 1: a douche. Well, I mean he played.
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  Speaker 2: It so well. He played a douche so well, oh man,
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  Speaker 2: And like he's he's such a good TV actor. He's
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  Speaker 2: so good. He's so good that kind of like the
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  Speaker 2: very Canadian Canadian but also like very flippant and very
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  Speaker 2: like like I could totally see Julian Richings playing this
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  Speaker 2: character as well.
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  Speaker 4: Totally.
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  Speaker 2: What did you think of hair hair Jason skiin intact Jason, Well,
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  Speaker 2: they have to study his special regenerator status awaiting wine
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  Speaker 2: red cond Okay, this is why, Like you asked me,
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  Speaker 2: why everything everything, everything up until now, I can find
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  Speaker 2: some in world justification.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, this red Cod. I don't like the other red
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  Speaker 1: CODs I do.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, It's not that it's just like
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  Speaker 2: not it ignores. It's it's selective about the law. It
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  Speaker 2: is selective about the law. I mean most That's not.
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  Speaker 1: Even my problem. My problem is like, what is this?
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  Speaker 1: What is this like not zombie Jason? Did he like
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  Speaker 1: spend years like this is also already the future?
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  Speaker 2: This is two thousand and five, dude, But can I
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  Speaker 2: tell you what I think it is? Yeah? I and
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  Speaker 2: hold on. One thing that's unforgivable for me is that
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  Speaker 2: he was melted in toxic goo and that's how he died.
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  Speaker 1: Dude.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was melted in toxic goo. Yeah, and then
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  Speaker 2: came back through the pooh through the poo yeah right,
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  Speaker 2: and then was killed and then was killed by getting
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  Speaker 2: pulled down. Well, he first climbed Hell by Freddie himself.
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  Speaker 2: So how is he back? How is he back? How
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  Speaker 2: is he back? And Okay, they don't.
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  Speaker 1: Go into it at all, And it feels like a
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  Speaker 1: Jason that's put into a different movie. Like fully, not
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  Speaker 1: even like Jason goes to Hell different movie because that
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  Speaker 1: stilk is relatively in keeping.
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  Speaker 2: But well, it feels like maybe like an intercoal or something. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it kind of does feel like an interval. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Freddy is an interval, for sure. For sure, this is
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  Speaker 2: an interval.
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  Speaker 1: It's between Jason goes to Hell and well that's how
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  Speaker 1: he comes back, Freddy brings.
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  Speaker 2: Him back.
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  Speaker 1: In in Freddy versus Jason. Oh, because this is said
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  Speaker 1: in the future.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, you know what justify the
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  Speaker 2: law back justifying Laura. I'm in for it, okay, but
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  Speaker 2: I like regenerated skin. If we're going with that lore,
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  Speaker 2: then it just eventually it just regenerates. He just becomes general.
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  Speaker 2: I mean maybe maybe. I mean that's what they want
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  Speaker 2: to study, dude, because like it's implied that some kind
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  Speaker 2: of like environmental catastrophe that is that is probably going
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  Speaker 2: to happen, is happening, and they're like on Earth too
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  Speaker 2: and in the future. But we'll talk about them in
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  Speaker 2: a bit.
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  Speaker 1: Having said, the skin and hair just a different texture hair.
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  Speaker 1: It weirds me out a little bit because strands like
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  Speaker 1: balding strands.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's glorified black. Jason, Dude, what do you
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  Speaker 2: want black? He's black. This is the most chunky mask. No,
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  Speaker 2: it's a little less chunky mask then.
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  Speaker 1: But there's so much goo in this one. I really
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  Speaker 1: liked the beginning where the like loser what's it called
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  Speaker 1: wiener guard is like, I don't want to look at you?
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  Speaker 1: And he Jason is new metal chained up. He's the
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  Speaker 1: most new metal in this dude.
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  Speaker 2: Easily the most new metal ones so far. Oh yeah, dude,
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  Speaker 2: because well the last I think it gets scream in
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  Speaker 2: the last one, but he puts it. I like this
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  Speaker 2: as like two thousand night. That's more scene music.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the guard throws a jacket over Jason, or like
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  Speaker 1: a blanket over Jason, and David Cronenberg comes in and
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  Speaker 1: he's like, we can't let this specimen go. It's too important.
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  Speaker 1: He's got black goo that's from aliens. He can regenerate people.
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  Speaker 2: It's totally the black it is. I was also thinking
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  Speaker 2: about the black wood in this one, because I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 2: they did bring it back. They brought back the blacko.
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  Speaker 1: Uh. And then these like military dudes uh. He like
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  Speaker 1: David Kronenberg fully ignores funk what's her name?
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  Speaker 5: The names Melissa, but a name I should call him
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  Speaker 5: lawyer man.
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  Speaker 2: I see. That's the thing is like everyone was such
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  Speaker 2: a Danuel Room in this Yeah, don't like, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: and everyone was a Canadian accent, and they're killed off
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  Speaker 2: and brought back so in such a haphazard way that
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  Speaker 2: it's impossible, it's physically impossible to make any connection to
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  Speaker 2: any of the characters. Yeah, totally, I agree, Rowan, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: Dove Dove was in this too, Israel. Yeah, the dreads
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  Speaker 2: the like the underneath law the old school Alex Hair dreads.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Dove looks cool though, like, this is what
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  Speaker 1: he looks like now, bald.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, dude, we all knew who was gonna go bald.
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  Speaker 1: I mean totally, he all always had. He was really
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  Speaker 1: good though.
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  Speaker 2: I loved him. I think he was like my favorite
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  Speaker 2: character I loved. I loved seeing him pop up. He
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  Speaker 2: kind of almost had a bit of a like he
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  Speaker 2: would pop up in a like in such a Danny
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  Speaker 2: malroo He's like glorified Danny mal Rooney. After Yeah, definitely,
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  Speaker 2: and then this makes sense that he would be an
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  Speaker 2: adjacent totally.
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  Speaker 1: David Cronenberg comes in with his uh military goons.
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  Speaker 2: He's like that rag off him.
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  Speaker 1: And then obviously Jason has escaped and put this poor
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  Speaker 1: guard loser guard uh into his place, and he fucking
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  Speaker 1: murders everybody. The thing is, it wants to live too much.
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  Speaker 2: In too many different worlds.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, like, if you I want Jason to
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  Speaker 1: be a good guy in some like or an antihero
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  Speaker 1: or something, but not in this way, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean. No, Cronenberg gets fucking murdered. Everybody gets fucking murdered,
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  Speaker 1: and Rowan is like, oh no, what happened? Did Jason escape?
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  Speaker 1: And I love this line that I actually really like
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  Speaker 1: the line where the one of the military guys it
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  Speaker 1: is like I'm sorry, and it's like, yeah, dude, you
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  Speaker 1: made a terrible decision when this woman told you that
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  Speaker 1: it was Ida before.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but what.
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  Speaker 1: Did you think of.
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  Speaker 2: No in this movie until the end. Yeah, it's just
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  Speaker 2: it's it's sad because of the fact that it's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of an interesting idea to be like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we're in the future with Jason the future.
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  Speaker 1: And now these people from the future showing up.
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  Speaker 6: They two guard.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they're down.
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  Speaker 2: Now the future folk come in.
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  Speaker 1: We can't get work nowhere like the Guard.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Can I tell you why I'm less forgiving of
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  Speaker 2: this movie today? Yeah, because I watched this movie and
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  Speaker 2: then as a palette cleanser, I watched Terrifier too, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm just like, I can't defend this movie too much.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, Terrified too. I haven't seen it yet. Two hours,
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  Speaker 2: two hours and fifteen minutes. I heard it was I
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  Speaker 2: heard it was totally justified. Two hours of fifteen minutes. Dude, dude,
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  Speaker 2: you don't even know. I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 1: But something that he is exciting about this is that
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: there is potential in the same way that the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of Jason Goes to Hell is like an anime where
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  Speaker 1: it's like the government is now knows Jason is a
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  Speaker 1: thing that's cool. But this where it's like it's already
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  Speaker 1: in the future. Rowan escapes to a cryo lab where
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  Speaker 1: she pushes she this.
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  Speaker 2: Is a cool scene.
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  Speaker 1: I like this scene where she's like and like action
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  Speaker 1: man's him into very Terminator yeah, in a cryostasis.
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  Speaker 2: And this is nineteen ninety threes, right, it's nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 2: threes Jason X. It's a post Terminator two world and
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  Speaker 2: very obvious post.
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  Speaker 1: Team totally world, and she like kicks the I like
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  Speaker 1: how she there's like a cool setup where it was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, maybe this is cool, kind of cool where
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  Speaker 1: she kicks the table out and she like fucking shoots
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  Speaker 1: him and then the door closes and he starts freezing.
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  Speaker 1: But then he stabs her through the cryo tube.
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  Speaker 2: Just like, oh no, I'm stabbed, and there's a breach
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  Speaker 2: in the cryostasis that freezes both of them and locks
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  Speaker 2: her down in the room. Yeah. And then and then
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: the Most Aliens and Alien three low budget version of
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: like oh we're all here, the new cast members. We're
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  Speaker 2: all looking for four hundred year old whatever corpses that
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: we can revive DVDs from this planet DVDs dude, of course,
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  Speaker 2: of course they still like hard media in the future.
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  Speaker 2: You're still trading DVDs.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, of course, dude, they would. But they come in,
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  Speaker 1: uh and they they These costumes are cool too, they do.
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  Speaker 1: They look like they're a bit new metal that they're
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  Speaker 1: a bit like.
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  Speaker 2: What is this even? What does the suit even do?
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  Speaker 2: Like they've got like goggle cool goggle by Steampunk is steampunk?
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  Speaker 2: I like steampunk spunk bin Laden's son. But no, did
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: you see that met I sent you today where it
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  Speaker 2: was like where it was like, imagine, well it's good
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  Speaker 2: Duffy's grandson he's steampunk and Lodden's son is new mill.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, you didn't see that. No, I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Uh KM fourteen the robot who I felt like was
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  Speaker 2: I didn't like this character when I watched it the
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  Speaker 2: first time when I was a kid. I did like it.
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  Speaker 2: Now I was like, all right, wait the android. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I thought I thought she was cool. I thought she
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  Speaker 2: was cool.
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  Speaker 1: Her weird pervert boyfriend was like, whoa this guy is like,
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  Speaker 1: but she.
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  Speaker 2: Is sexy robot and sexy born yesterday, Like she is
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  Speaker 2: those those tropes to I'm just happy and innocent and
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  Speaker 2: here only to suck your cock.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, uh and to be I think the first
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: resident evil had come out that like to be melioage
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  Speaker 1: and like, yeah, the boss who's like a huge prick
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  Speaker 1: the Burke of space right now in Jason x Space
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  Speaker 1: space Burk.
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  Speaker 2: Even though space Burke.
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  Speaker 1: Was original, this idea that you're gonna find like the
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  Speaker 1: comedy was so cringe in this where like fucking Dove
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  Speaker 1: picks up a cup and it freezes on his hand.
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  Speaker 1: I did love when they push over Jason frozen Jason
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  Speaker 1: and it cuts off Doug Dove's.
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  Speaker 2: Arm man like just right away, like a funny mishap
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  Speaker 2: like that happening, and also showing it's a regenerative world
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: because regeneration is going to play a huge part in
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  Speaker 2: the plot. Right. Oh totally. They put like some kind
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: of like like bio sack on his on his stumbs.
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  Speaker 2: I loved that. I thought that was cool. I thought
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  Speaker 2: it was cool too, And they like save the arm
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  Speaker 2: and he like carries his own arm.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: It's it's pretty like because they drug him to.
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  Speaker 2: And he's, oh, he's and he's like totally stoned. He's like,
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  Speaker 2: so they're playing it for like the space stoned kind of.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's.
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  Speaker 1: All like some of it was like I could get
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  Speaker 1: behind this if I was, like, but everyone's a little
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  Speaker 1: too innocent. They're all a little bit like they're almost
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: like the opposite of the characters in Prometheus. For characters
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: in Prometheus are all like what's going on and then
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  Speaker 1: doing outrageous things. This is all just like outrageous people
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  Speaker 1: doing outrageous fucking things. But maybe four hundred years in
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  Speaker 1: the future people would behave like this.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that's the thing. It's this movie reminds me
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: of Alien Resurrection, but in Alien Resurrection I feel like
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: the like wonky future super future humor works and here
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't. And I think it's because of the directing
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  Speaker 2: in that one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I also feel like the budgetary restraints of
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: this one. While while excellently executed, I think just like needed.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit more man like.
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  Speaker 1: They could have done some more cool, cooler shit than this.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, they wanted to like pivot so hard,
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  Speaker 1: Like what's it called they go outside after like finding
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: the bodies of Rowan and Jason. They go outside and
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  Speaker 1: it's like a hellscape on Earth. I guess it's Earth.
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  Speaker 2: And then that guy who's like, sure's not an idiot
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  Speaker 2: from the girl guy, he's like a Yahoo. He's like
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  Speaker 2: the the pilot of the ship.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he is the pilot of.
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  Speaker 2: The Yahoo pilot of the ship. And he's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I knew I recognized him. I was like, who is
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: this Canadian actor?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's so Canadian, and like being like I love
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  Speaker 1: this part when he's they're flying up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like they repurposed the set from like Babylon five.
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  Speaker 2: Oh totally and like around this because of Because of that,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: it felt very like TV and it felt very like
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  Speaker 2: very budget like it was shot. It had no scale, No,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: it had no scale because nothing felt like anything connected,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Like none of the sets felt like they were They
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: just all felt like sets totally, whereas like things like
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Star Trek are kind of theatrical, like the plotting of
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: where things are feel like like they make sense and
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: you suspend your disbelief in a Star Trek world in
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  Speaker 2: a way that you know you're really invested in how
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: they're telling the story and what they're what the story
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  Speaker 2: is about. It's about the story, right, Yeah, it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of like got that like sort of deep sci fi
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  Speaker 2: element and this movie it's it's more a slasher in space.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't call it a sci fi. It's using sci
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: fi trope. That Okay, that's that's the thing, dude. It's
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: like the tone of this movie. I know it's part ten,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: and I know that in two early That's what I'm saying. No,
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  Speaker 2: but that's what I'm saying, Like Saw ten learns from
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  Speaker 2: these part tens, these past part tens, because like Saw
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  Speaker 2: part ten sees part ten as an opportunity to reimagine
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: what Saw can be totally, and this movie doesn't. It's
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: not very bold. It is bold. It is bold in
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: some respects, but it's not very bold in its storytelling.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's still maintaining like the reality and because the
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: reality that's been so simulacrod at this point from like
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  Speaker 2: so many different removed like what can we do next? Right,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: kind of takes it to this like ridiculous place and
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: also leans into the humor of it. Yeah, and I
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: don't enjoy that. I don't enjoy that either because I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I just think that, like it could still be a
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: good movie. You could still make it funny and lean
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  Speaker 2: into the simulacra and all of that, but still make
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: it a good movie.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Well, what's interesting on another point of comparison is something
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: like Alien Romulus, which I didn't think I would like
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  Speaker 1: at all and I ended up loving. And it's like
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: that made the it put in the lore in a
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: sandwich way where it's like, okay, like what can I do?
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  Speaker 1: There are limitations that are not just budget budgetary. There
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: are limitations from like studios being like I want or
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: even what's his name, Ridley Scopping, Like you need to
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: put the black goo in this, and you need to
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: put the you say, well, I don't, no, I don't.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that, like there are like things that
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: are in there that are like cringy and bad, but
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: like it's like, well, it's the best it could have
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: been done, Whereas like this.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Feels like man, there's some cool stuff in here, but
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: like why did you pull it off?
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Like this, Like that's what it feels like you're making
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: fun of people?
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, yes, and like these are the
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: ones that people remember and they're like, oh, premarital sex,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: like saying the premarital sex line with a wink. The
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: movies were never judging the premarital sex and they were
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: never commenting on it in this way, and the fact
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: that they do, like I don't know, it just kind
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: of like makes it stupid, like it it misunderstands Jason's
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: like motivations. Yeah, it's not the premarital sex. It's it's
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: the complicated prism of like proximity and like you know,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: it's it's he's not thoughtful in that way. No, he's
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: a ghost spirit that's inspired by his the rage of
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: seeing his mother die. Yeah, and her mom his mom
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: seeing him die. Yes, So feedback loop of trauma with
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Jason just Jason.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And like this tries to include a lot of like,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: oh they're students, Oh, professor Lowe, you're you're gonna have
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: sex with me? And the nipple clamping, getting his arm
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: good back on the black good.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Dude, Yeah, they well they know about its restorative properties, dude. Yeah, dude,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: that's how they've solved so many issues of getting limbs
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: cut off in this in this world. And they can
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: also like if you're at a certain percentage, they can
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: regenerate you dude. Oh yeah, totally totally. And we'll talk
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: later about Uber Jason, I mean, which we'll get to.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, can we get to Uber Jason now? Can
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: we skip the whole movie and just Briggs, one of
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: the ladies who's like teaching space students how to space,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: She's the one tasked to cut the mask off Jason's space.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it'slorified sunken in goofase.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally one hundred percent. And then they revive
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Rowan as two of the students of Briggs are like, well,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: like fully like almost fucking over Jason's corpsey frozen body,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: and she's like, could you guys just leave, don't be here,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: and they're like yeah, and they run away and go
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: to have sex.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: They so casually bring back this person too, so irresponsibly,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: irresponsibly just they're like, hey, it's four hundred years of age.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: But they also in the.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Future fight club fuck fight club. Uh, all of the
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: they're all super one dimensional obviously, and then they like
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: try and sort of make it like a sexy thing
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: that's like, oh, we're fixing Roan's body, and now it's
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: like it would be it would be so traumatic. It
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: would be like, oh my god, oh my god.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: All of my everything, every end, like the world is gone. Yeah,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: the entire world. You don't even have, like you don't
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: have a chance to grieve anything, and like literally you're
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: just on Fucky's face. Yeah for sure, Yeah it would be.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: It would be like so cruel and such a horrible
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: inconsideration to just bring this person back like this. Yeah,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: and they they imply that they've done it before too,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: that like people are just like frozen, and it's like, yeah,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I mean two hundred and four hundred, it doesn't fucking matter.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I actually really like that scene a lot when she
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: when Briggs told four hundred, when Briggs brings back Jason,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: like she's like cutting into his like eyeball and ship
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: talking about like the regeneration aspect. Oh my god, she's amazing.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: They're amazing. It's incredible that we brought her back. And
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: it's like yeah, but then like later.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: On, yeah, they're amazing, it's amazing, Like why because you're
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: like under some kind of manipulated spell by someone exact
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I introduced I went to a market in Saint Jacob's
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: with Mama. Yeah, and I met like some lady there
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: that had paintings and was selling paintings, and right away
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, I have to show
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: mama right now. I have to introduce this woman to
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: my mama right now. Amazing. And I was like, hey here,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: and she was like hi. They were both so like Hi.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Just seeing them do the eyes, you were immediately like like, oh,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: this woman says so much BBD. I just like and
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: she was talking about her kids, and I was just like,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: oh man, you've probably destroyed those kids' lines. Yeah, I was.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: It was such a delight to see them interact. Honestly, dude.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, this is amazing. This
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: is amazing. Both of you are hilarious. Yeah, paintings.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Professor Lowe goes to call I really liked this actor
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: who just appeared in like a bed and like it
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: was just like on a computer screen. And he was like, Hey,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I found this four hundred year old woman. Maybe I
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: could make some fucking money off this, oh.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Man, Like yeah, Like it's so weirdly cynical, the like
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: profit margin angle. He was like, I'm gonna lose all
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: my funding for what for like research, he's like bringing
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: back culture or something like what's his research? I don't
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: know what's his scientific? Scientific reason's money for it? But
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: it's also like it didn't seem like it was coming
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: from a place of like I want the money for research. No,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: it was just like I need money. He wanted to
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: travel through space and find out about like culture from
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: four hundred years ago? Is that what you want? Like
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: is there Like I don't know. It was just like
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: so weirdly syning. The money part was like outrageous, Yeah, totally.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: It just kind of didn't make any sense.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: And then this like like hot intern or whatever is
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: like it pulls in like a champagne bottle in space
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: for some reason. Uh, and not in like a weird
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: bag because you know the space food how it's like
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: dehydrated put in basue.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: You have to put it in bags. Dude, it's the future.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: They figured the bag stuff out. They've got replicators, dude,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: it's true. Yeah, you're right, you're beam beam Din'd you
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: just beam as aboord be beam Yeah? Totally loved it.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: We'll get to the beam. But will we get to it?
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Because the actors, while like giving serviceable performances.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is very serviceable. Nobody seems like they're trying
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: hard at all, which is also.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Offensive to the audience.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: It's like when when Briggs like takes off the mask too,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: and she's like, oh, poor baby, that was like, no.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Wonder you wore a mask. But I just like, you know,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: you could have given that line character like no wonder,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: you know, like you could have like, like, I don't know,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: it could have been like a everything was so funny
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: or like played for such like laughlines, like almost.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, like Professor in the next scene where he's
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: getting his nipple twisted and he's wearing a like a
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: like a skirt, what is he He's wearing like a
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: purple shed NIGHTI yeah, And and she's like and I
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: kind of liked I liked all them.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I liked all of the weird king shit in this
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: movie because it kind of was like it did predict
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: that the future would get get here totally, dude.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I was watching Crash again recently, Yeah, and Leo had
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: never seen it, and she she was like super into
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the Fly. So I was like, this is gonna be awesome,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: and like that movie holds up way better now than
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: it did before. Like it's like fully just like, oh,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: this is just exactly what what this is a movie
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: about fetishes. I mean all of his movie is about fetishes,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: but like it's such a good representation of or it's
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: such a like serious look at a representation of that
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: as opposed to this, which is it's played for laughs.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: It is played for laughs.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: And then Jason slightly unfreezes because the blackoo resurrects him
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: and KM is getting her weird programmer boyfriend to construct
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: nipples for her, and the nipples slide off clink.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Oh dude, Like in any nipple stuff in movies always
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: stayed so memorable to me, Like do you remember is
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: it from Malrats that like the like medium has the
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: third nipple and it's a piece of pepperoni and she
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: takes it off and eats it at some point? Is
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: that from malrat that is so familiar? It's Kevin Smith movie?
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I think it might be, man, I can't remember though. Well, anyway,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: this reminded me of that. The nipples falling off reminded
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: me of like the third Pepperoni nipple, because like it's
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: the joke is that she's supposed to have a third
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: nipple and the third nipples supposed to be like give
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: her like psychic powers. Yeah, she like hits her movies. Yeah,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: yes it is. It is in Yeah, yeah it is.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: It's in Marats. It is Mats. Okay, yeah, so so
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I remember. Yeah, so that that's what like struck me
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: about this scene. But yeah, like she wants to be
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: a real boy.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Basically, and and like you know, we got some sex
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: stuff happening. We got Brigs uh getting man when Briggs died. Uh,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: she's the one who who was like researching Jason or whatever.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: And then he puts her face into the liquid nitrogen
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: and freezes it and then MUSHes the liquid nitrogen face.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I thought that was that was really good. Amazing, It
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: was great, amazing. I loved it.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I thought that was also Caine Hotter fully copy a
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: feel like he was like it was like I was
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: watching it, like, dude, you're just like grabbing at this
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: tit literally like cupped.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Over the booby over the movies. Jason has never done that.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: So sexual assaults pervert Kane Hotter, I'm not I'm not
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: not board for I'm not on board for this is
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: this was not the move, dude, like way to like,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, no, wonder he wasn't even the next movie, dude,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: it was you know who it was, Yeah, the guy
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: you were telling me. It was the tall guy who
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: he throws in Jason's takes Jason takes Manhattan. Yeah, who
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: was like I guess like a stand in for him
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: or a double or something something like that. But he
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: he's cool. He's definitely got an imposing body for Jason.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Jon picks up his new new metal knife. Dude, the
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: the spiky with holes in it new metal knife. Yeah, totally, dude, amazing.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: While Lowe is trying to convince a Rowan that it's
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: like a good idea to keep Jason alive or whatever,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: and she's like, don't do it. I'm Ripley in this movie.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Totally. It's really just following the Ripley trajectory. Yeah, totally.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: And then she gets new clothes from one of the
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: staff and she's like.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: They fit good. Yeah, yeah, thanks, it's a perfect fit.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: It's it's very revealing in a perfect way.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: It's very two thousands, all of the style, all of
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: the style, like it didn't it was like contemporaneous of that,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: and it's like, why why aren't they why don't they
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: have uniforms, Why don't they have flowy outfits like it's Trek.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Floey Star Trek because they're going through their two thousands
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: pace dude. Absolutely.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: And then Jason kills two people who we don't care about,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: and then some military guys come in. They're like military police, now,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: don't get out of this maze. Yeah, Sergeant Brodsky, who's like, yeah,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: he's basically the military police of this movie.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: And she she he like, they see that this girl
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: has blood on her and she's like, oh my god,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: my boyfriend was killed. Yeah. Blood starts, blood starts. Yeah. Yeah,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Man, You're gonna have to do a lot
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: of the heavy lifting on this one because I like
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: barely remember it. I watched it and I was like, I,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: you know, like not that I really I think, And
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: you know me, I've been really enjoying the Jason's I
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: want to give it a chance. I was excited at
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: how much we enjoyed the last one, and so for
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: this one, I was like, it just kind of like
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: was like a sour note and like, yeah, cannon Jason
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: stuff on, you know what I mean?
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's bad dude, Like it's it's a
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: pre shitty movie, and it's it's hard because there's so
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: much shit to get through where it's like set up kill,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: set up kill, kill, kill kill, and then gotten yourself killed,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: and like, yeah.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: The the like.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: The like kills are kind of boring. Brodsky is kind
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: of an interesting character where he's like, he's the black
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: guy who's the.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, gets regenerated.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I liked the scene where Dove and
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: that other military dude were in the simulator and then
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Jason kills one of the simulation monsters. Uh, and he's
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: like that other military dude he seemed like stone colds deal,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: yeah totally, and Dove is just like I've got dreads.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: They're gross. And then Dove gets again, or the one
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: of the military guys gets his head cut off and
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: it's still talking and Dove gets split in half.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: And he's still talking, and it's it's very like goo
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: and there's something so off puttingly weird about it. And
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: it turns out that they're in a holidack. Yeah, but
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: then Jason actually is in there with them for real
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: and then they for real got killed.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I thought that was great. I really liked it. And
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: when when when fucking cade Hodter suplexes Dove or whatever,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: he just like flips him around as though he's nothing.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: It's what would happen.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: It is what would happen, absolutely, man.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Jason is like, I don't know, I like it's too much, Jason.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: It's a little too much. It waits, it's a little
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: too much. Yeah, Professor low just Jason, Professor Lowe going
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: up to the sergeant and being like, we need him alive.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: And then he's like, i'll give you five one hundred
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars four hundred years later, one hundred thousand dollars.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Do you know what inflation is?
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: He's like five hundred thousand dollars and then he's like okay, okay.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: He kind of like pretends to like agree to it,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: but then later on he shows that he has honor
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: and that he's just gonna kill Jason and pretend that
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: he tried to save him by shooting in the leg.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Honestly, it didn't even seem like that, he says. But
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like it's kind of fucking care. Yeah,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like like I want to actually just
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: kill things.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like an integrity move. It's like he
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: wants kind I like, what a Jason Why he's a
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Jason Hunter, dude? Of the men much lore in Jason Hunters.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of Jason Hunters.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I mean one of the first one that we meet
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: is you rock.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: The Gnobe.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Totally.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it like so much of this movie
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: is like kills another person who's useless, u and then
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: he like gets electrocuted.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Electric ution Jason. It's just like so much of it
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: is just like scene to scene, Uh oh we got him,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: know we didn't. He escaped because what else are you
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: gonna do? What else are you gonna do? Yeah, that's true. Yeah,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: the other one makes a bold move, like Jason goes
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: to Hell. Adding necronomicon lore allows it to be like
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: we have a thing that's gonna like lead to another thing,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Yeah, so we don't have
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: to just like do set up kill, set up kill,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: set up kill until there's no more people, you know
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: what I mean. Like it's more about where the story goes.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: But in that way, this movie is way more of
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: a true blue Jason movie. Really, you know, in the
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: classic sense.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: You know what would have been cooler instead of actually
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: just do Prometheus. Instead of of the professor being like, like.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I want to make money.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Off this, the robot should have been like, this is
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: a perfect specimen.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally put some David Lauria in there. Yeah. I mean,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: the misuse of androids in movies really bothers me because
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: androids are always such like wonderful other characters that you
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: can project any kind of other thing onto totally, and
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: like they didn't do anything with them.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: No, it's so useless except for like, yeah, she's basically
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: a sexpot.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: But like I mean, I guess that's fitting for a Jason,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: that's true.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but even that's like that could have been like
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: cool motivation to be like I'm not just a sex
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: spot and you're not just a killer. I'm gonna let
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: you loose or something like that, something where it's just
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: like a little bit more nefarious, a little bit more
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: thought put into character motivations.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Because Jason's worked alone so far. That's the thing is, like,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I think they can't do that because Jason always works alone.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: That's true, he just kills whatever's around. But then it's
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: then it's interesting. Then it's cool because you can pivot
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: to something else with that. Like there's a movie called
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Maniac Cop and then the second Maniac Cop, which is
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: which is the best one. Maniac Cop teams up with
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: a guy who's like a homeless dude, and it's just
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: like a wild premise like to continue this story where
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: there's like a partnership of some kind because you can
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: bounce off that. But like this just feels like I'm waiting.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: For uber Jason the whole time. This is that's that's
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: the only thing I care about, because like he gets
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: stabbed multiple times, he gets like destroyed. People, people are
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: like cheering, and then like the one guy who's like
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: caught Jason or whatever, he shoots him in the legs
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: and it's like, now you're just like torturing this this
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: weird guy.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: This like serial killer. It's just it's odd.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Like something seems off about this movie entirely.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: And part of it is the budget.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Part of it is like what are these sets? Why
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: don't they look like real place. It's just like it
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: kind of cheapens the whole thing. It also like you know,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: it doesn't do anything good for movies and shows like
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Star Trek either, because it's like those things exist within
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: their own world, and like putting a Jason in it
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: is like maze it kind of like we already know
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: this is like this, don't make it, don't show us
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: how like goofy this.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally trying to introduce some level of seriousness with
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: a lack of sincerity.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it just feels weird. And like they they their
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: ship crashes into another ship and then Rowan becomes that
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: finally becomes the main character again.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Uh, but also I don't care about Rowan. I don't care.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: It didn't remember anything about her, like like and it
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: didn't matter that she survived from four hundred years because
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: she was so competent, Like they couldn't just they could
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: have done something with that that she was that she survived.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: First of all, they don't set her up as anything
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: to begin with. I don't know what she is, like
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: a scientist. What is at Crystal Lake Labs? Like what
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: is it? Like is that like a new beautification salon
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: or something? Are they taking Jason's hormones and like making
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: people giving people the elixir of life?
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Totally dude, ah man. And then like like Professor Lowe
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: being like, gosh, he just wanted his machete back.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I remember that being the like like trailer line, This
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: is a hockey mask. This is a hockey mask. Oh,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: it was a sport that was a lot in twenty
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: twenty four. This is a hockey mask.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: And it's like riding a bike. What's a bike? It's like,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here, dude, like bikes by okay,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: like maybe maybe four hundred years. The bikes have been
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: around for like two hundred years now, more.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Than I think probably, right, let's fucking take a look
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: how long have bike's been around.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I did like this line where where the sex robot
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: is like I'm not gonna remember anybody's names. The sex
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: robot is with the dweeb that programs her to suck
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: his dick is like she he's like, what's the percentage
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: we have of surviving? And she's like twenty nine percent
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: or whatever. He is like, you can't get me better
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: odds than that, and then they can't and she's like
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: fifty three percent.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I like that line. I thought that was cute. You're right,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: bikes have been around since eighteen seventeen. I thought it
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: eighteen hundred. But that's a long time. It's a long time.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: That's not like bikes are still basically the same, Like.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: It's not like, I mean they don't have the big wheel, dude.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Oh man, they're not the buck social bikes dude, the
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: big wheel. I mean, I want to ride a big
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: wheel bike on a big wheel. Why did anybody think
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: that was like a good idea good design? Dude. You
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: have to be really tall so you can see above
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: all the traffic. Yeah, I mean part of it.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: No, it wasn't so you could be really tall. It
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: was so you could you because you have there's like
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: a little step because you have to run for.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: It to work. Wow, amazing, amazing.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: So yeah, they come back and like there's a couple
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: of people who survive. Jason gets a bunch of people,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: and then the robot comes in with a sexy outfit,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Emilio sexy outfit, and she's like, I'm gonna murder you,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: and she like starts like Jason does twisty head in it.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Oh man, glorified twisty head, and like.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: He immediately just throws a knife into her and she's like,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: well that was that was a bust. But actually it
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: was a trick the whole time, so that she can
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: like get up into Jason's grill and fucking shoot him
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: a bunch of times.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: And like we haven't mentioned tatters Jason. Like that was
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: another thing, is like it felt very much like the
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: drag version of what Jason would be wearing, you know,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: like perfectly like like Balenciaga kind of tatters. Yeah, like
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: he's like worn in kind of a way that looks
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: like fashion darre leaked. Yeah, he's totally leaked. He's like
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: he's looking very calm Jason. And yeah, he's feeling, he's
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: feeling himself, he's feeling his oats Jason.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. And and like you know, the sergeant gets
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: stabbed or whatever by Jason and then he escapes and
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: comes back.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: And then like she shoots Jason a bunch of times.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Uh and like he like falls down, and like she
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: also does the robot also does twisty head, and it's
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: like you don't have any bones, dude, Like what's what
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: are you twisting? What is twisty head for you?
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I mean she's she's like a humanoid robot. She's checking
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: twist the head. But like, why are you doing twisty head.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: What don't do twisty don't do twisty head ever. Nobody
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: needs to do it.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody ever needs to do it. It's expressive. That's
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: why they do it. They do it because a mask
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: is hard to express in. But when you're that kind
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: of physical caliber, you don't really need to do twisty
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: head exactly.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: It's scary enough that you're Yeah.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: That's why Michael Myers also worked really well because he
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: was just like dead eyed, like walking straight and then
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: just like yeah, it was great. It's great. Jason gets
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: his leg blown off and is like like a bunch
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: of body parts like destroyed, and then somehow the like
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I love the ants though, Like let's put on the
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: ants where they're like and they like crawl on you
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: and fix your body or whatever. And they crawl on
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: him and fix his body, and he who's Jason's after
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: getting exploded by the.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Jason gets exploded and then yeah, he gets like the
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: the like they're kind of like cables of ants that
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: kind of like come and regenerate you. But with with Jason,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: it decides to like look for extra synthetic stuff that
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: it can make a part of Jason, so it makes
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: him metal, and like it makes not only metal, dude,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: it makes him the new metal Jason that we've.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Ever seen, Like making him literally terminator is like a
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: little bit like I don't need this.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: He looks like Bane from like the Bavin and Robin
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: totally like the like puppet kind of like Joel Schuwacker Vain. Yeah, totally.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: He punches the android's head off, uh and like starts
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: like murdering people again, but the android's head is alive.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: We have to say, yes, yes, totally. She gets saved
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: for future blowjobs. But of course by this dueb and
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: one guy Gorman's what's his name Jason and Jason flies
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: out to the other half of the ship where they
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: all think they're like safe, but.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Then Gorman makes flow.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: The room, but Jason actually hooked on to the other
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: spaceship and punches through it and like.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: I just a grate goes up and like the one
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: girl gets total recall pulled into the grate by the
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: air from how strong is like the section from like
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: outer space like this. I don't know, I don't know
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: if how it would happen like this, but the movies
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: really wanted us to fear space suctions space.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but like the thing is what people don't understand
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: is what would happen is what happened to that billionaire
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: who wedded into the submarine. It would just just like collapse,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: and your lungs would also just go because.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: They would completely freeze and seize up immediately because the
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: air outside is so or the atmosphere outside is so unforgiving.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Actually apparently apparently there's a thing called heat transfer, Like
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: you would actually not freeze immediately because fuck I forgot
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: the science of it. It doesn't matter, Yeah, it's just it's yeah,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: oh man, Like this is the most like these guys
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: survive to the like loser wiener.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Guy, I it didn't matter, it got it doesn't even matter.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Totally totally, and mecha Jason is uh uber Jason uber Alice.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: He's very like yeah, but like his skin now, it's
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: like it's like less good consistency and texture than it was.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: It's more like braised the ball sack skin. Yeah, totally.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: And then like at one point they like take him
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: into the the what's it called holodeck and they recreate
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: fucking they recreate.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Crystal Lake and the two girls who are like.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: We want to have premaral sex and smoke pot and
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: then he takes these like hitting them.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: He uses his signature, like what's it called sleeping bag move?
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Apparently that sleeping bag move, how did you guess? Was
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: supposed to be a lot more like cool and intense
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: and gruesome and iconic, and they cut it so that
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: it was just funny and just like bashed against the
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: fucking tree, and then it became a signature Jason move.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Glorified Jason, but Jason still knows somehow.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: The problem is, yeah, that it's a holiday. The problem too,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: is like Jason tricked Jason. It's lorified trick Jason, though, yeah, totally.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: I love what Jason gets a tricked me too. Were
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: you gonna say something about it? Is it worth it?
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Uh No, it's just like sometimes Jason feels a little
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: bit too smart, That's what it like.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know what he's thinking really in this movie.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: And like I before it didn't matter, but now it
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: kind of does.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does kind of because it's like they've put
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: him in as such a lead in the movie and
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: it's like it does. It doesn't function in the way
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: the terminator is because he doesn't talk right. So because
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: because Arnold is charming even when he's scary, like.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: When he goes when he when the guy's like, hey,
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: smells like dead animals in there, and he picks the
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: fuck you asshole like prompt like that's funny, that's cool,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: and that adds character, whereas like, none of this really.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Adds anything to the lore. None of it adds anything
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: to Jason. None of it adds anything, Like the mom
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't come back. There's no like cool psychic powers, there's
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: no it's all just like.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: There's nothing to elevate the story other than the fact
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: that they've raised the stakes by going to both again
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: and going to bigger boats, which is space space boats. Yeah, totally.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: And then the sergeant comes back and he's in like
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: a cool space suit or whatever, and he like, I
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: guess it's gonna fucking fight Jason.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: It's it. I don't know. It's just like if I
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: had something to latch onto. Character Wise, it was a
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: cool shot though, where he's like holding the knife and
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: the guy in the space suit is like going after him, like,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: but otherwise it just felt a little bit like placeless
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: in the series, like it just doesn't. It floats around
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: as a Jason movie and it's like this, this is
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: the Jason movie, twitt paper, this is Jason movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: it kind of it was surprising at times that it
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: was a Jason movie because you were just like sometimes
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: you would like forget pretty easily, and we were like, oh,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: it's space. Like the some of the space ship was
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: like disoriented.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what is this Babylon five And because they get
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: you know what.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: It is, is like we don't know the rules of
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: this space, like and he kind of treats it like
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: we should by like giving us this like familiarity of
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: like a space like type show ye total and it's
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: like that's why it makes the joke of like beam someone,
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: do you want to beam? Can't you beat us off?
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Beam us? And it's like, well, I don't know, dude,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: what reality are the reality reality? It's an unfreezing reality,
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: it's a regenerating bones reality.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a real. It's a man who
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: we know has had psychic powers. Yeah, he's a man
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: who got dragged to hell on Earth. Yeah, now he's
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: on second Earth. Being that why is that outrageous, So
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: they blow up the one ship. They get away, and
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: then Jason is still floating in space and he almost
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: hits the thing and he almost hits the other spaceship
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: and the sergeant is like, he wise, it takes Jason
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: into New Earth.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: That was the coolest part for me, Like put Pushy
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: fronts him into like like I guess, like into the
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: atmosphere of the world of the World two, World Part two,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: and like they go to a crystal lake sort of
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: area where a young couple is looking out and innocently
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: being like, oh, I wonder what that is. And it's like.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: And it's like, were they just expecting.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: To shooting Star make wish? Was it just gonna be
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Earth too? And then we see like continue if they
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: made adjacent eleven and it was on Earth too, and
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: they just continued that. Lord dude, I would be so into.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally said, but that his like uber mask falls
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: off and you get we get the.
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's over and none of the characters mattered,
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: And there were some funny parts, but I don't think
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: we even mentioned all of them, which I'm like fine
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: with it doesn't they don't all need to be good
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: Jason's no.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: But but to leave it off on that is like,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: that's pretty hard. Well, we still have movies to talk about, dude,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: It's got two thousand and nine. We're doing two thousand
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: and nine though, next right, or are we doing Freddy
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Versus Jason?
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: We should do Freddy versus Jason.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Well, we should watch it, talk about it a little bit,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: but then just do two thousand. I haven't seen it
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: so long, and I was. I remember being so excited.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Coming out of the theater and being like, whoa dude,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Like they really revamped Jason in a way that was like, Wow,
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: this is cool. I've never seen it. That's great. I
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: didn't see it happen. I'm excited to I'm excited to
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: see it. What would you give this out of Jason's
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: probably like a two? Me too, dude. It's like, not good?
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Is sexual assaulting Jason? Copy of a veal? Jason hun
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: like the.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Fact that he's not a mush monster, the fact that
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: he's there's no magic, the fact that he's like generated texture.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: It's just like, you know, I want my like jaw
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: to be unhinged and I want the like ribs to
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: be popping out. I don't want like regenerat Regeneration Jason.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like as a movie, like a four. Oh man,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: I like I had a hard time with it. Yeah,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: I would give it a two for Jason's for sure too.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Machete's and I would give I would give the movie
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: a two too. Dude. It's pretty bad. It's like it's
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: kind of not that redeemable to me. I didn't even
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: have that much fun. I tried. I wanted to know,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: you know what, you know. I love Jason, dude. I
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: love Jason, I like I really do. And I'm so
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: happy to love Jason so that when I gets a
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: thing like this, Like, dude, think about what a run
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: that is though of like from part two to part nine,
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: A lot of bangers and a lot of like really interesting,
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: always ambitious choices, unexpected choices, a lot. Yeah, totally. We
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: can reflect on it now. We can reflect on it
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: now as ten because there's no other like like legacy
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: sequels Jason versus or Freddy versus Jason is is yeah,
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: and it's like different different, And then also the remake
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: is the remake, so we're not going to get any
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: canonical Jason again. Yeah, So how do we feel. How
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: do we feel at this point about Jason's legacy. I mean,
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: it's a pretty good legacy. I think so too. I
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: think like he really is the salone because he kind
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: of like creates his own relevance in a way by
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: like the just the sheer brutality and brutal continuation of
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: the property feels like an enduring all americanness. You know.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: It doesn't need to get fancy with any like dream
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: plots or anything. It just needs to bring back Jason
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: and have Jason do his job. And I think that's cool.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: I think it's cool. It's ultimately if I'm looking at like,
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: do I like Jason or Freddy Better? I think I
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: still like Freddy Better. Yeah, I do too.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: It's just as a character more interesting and charming. The
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: lore is interesting for this. But you know, laur can
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: only take you so far because of the fact that,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: like so many of the movies are just like a
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: bit of a struggle to get through where it's just
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: like all right, like parts Part seven, the one that
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: was like cut to shit where it was like no
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: blood and it part five, yeah, part five, or like
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: you know, the first one. I know you had trouble
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: with the tenth one is terrible.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Eighth one got generally got gems like seven, got gems
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: like nine, We got gems like six, we got gems
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: like four. Three eyes like K's is wondering what our
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: powerless is going to be, And I wonder what you
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: would say at this point.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Right now, what my favorite is is probably gonna be
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: uh three nine, four, two one seven seven, Yeah, probably
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: seven uh one one.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: I like one. I like that high. I mean it's
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: you hated it, dude, you like you cause the controversy
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: among our fans, several of which who are like messaging
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: me do like, I don't know, man, I like, I
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: guess I'm one of those idiots that like's Jason.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: No, But I like like the panel of war he's
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: set up and stuff. I like the the what's it called?
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: The fact that like the twist is that she's the
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: killer and having an old lady killer is great.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: I love that. I love it too. Yeah, you're right,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: but we get that in part two, so.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: I don't really exactly, Yeah exactly.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: We get the whole scene with her in parts that's true. Yeah,
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: ten would definitely be last, would be like second, second last,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: and which one am I missing from there. Yeah, I
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: mean that's it, right, five, five, which would go third
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: last for Suah five would be third last. So yeah,
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: I mean I think that's pretty much around my list.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: I think you did something weird with two and four
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: that I don't think I agree with, but I'll should
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: I try and do mine.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, Okay, best Part three Jason Ghost, but yeah, Part
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: three I think is the is the best of all worlds.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: But Jason Goes to Hell is the one I want
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: to put it, I know, I know, but I'm not
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: going to do that. I'm gonna put it second. I
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: will put it second. It's so good. So three, nine, nine, seven, okay, six,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: four two Jason or the part five is next? Manhattan
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: eight and then ten. Yeah, I think that's that's my list.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm the last ones are, man, they're rough.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: It's funny because like so many people hate nine. So
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: many people hate nine.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: I know, I know they do, and they're so and
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: I don't care. Yeah, they're so right. I don't care. Yeah,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: I think they are wrong because like you can't celebrate
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: the like lore of Part nine with while saying also
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: that it's a bad movie. Because I think that the
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: most celebrated lore is of Night cohesively speaking, holistically speaking,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: I think that's the most like, that's what people they
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: consider all of these things. I knew all of these
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: things in preparing for Jason. Was it wasn't just magically
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: able to deduce like a whole thing from like those movies.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: They are in those movies. And then the natural lead
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: up to that is Part nine. Yeah, totally. It feels
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: like Part nine was, oh, yeah, this is what this is.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Like he must be transferring bodies, but for some reason
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: he transferred into a goo faced body every single time.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Maybe we're rating that one a little high in comparison
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: to some of the other movies, but in terms of
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: my enjoyment, I have to it that high.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: I love I mean, I really love three, I really
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: love two, I really love four.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all six. I love I love.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Seven six again. Six is.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: That's not Tommy? Oh it's Tommy. It's a lot it's Tommy.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah, that's that one's good. Yeah,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: that one's really good because the six and seven kind
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: of do similar things. Yeah. Eight is rough. Eight is
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: so bad, you know what? And you can see what
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: it is anytime Jason is taken away from Crystal Lake,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: that's when it gets bad. Yeah, that's true. That's true.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: I mean in space he's gone on boats. He's on
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: the boats, he's gone arguably and goes to Hell. He's
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: also gone, but he's mostly in town. So it kind
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: of feels like it could be Crystal Lake.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: Well it's It's also feels like he's going home, right,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: That's what's cool about it.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: It's an adventure home, you know, and it's like the
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: it's the outlier in the title too, it's the first
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: title outlier totally, totally. So yeah, like a lot to
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: consider with Jason lore that I think is very interesting.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: It's definitely given us a lot of like fodder to
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: talk about Caine Hotter, fodder to talk about. Yeah, but
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: I don't ultimately, I don't think Caine Hotter. If you
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: want to talk for a second about who the best
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Jason is, well, we've seen all of them, but the
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: best of these ten movies, I still think we should go.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, because we've done the ten that are canon and
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: we can rate those, but we gotta rate just Jason
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: at the end, because you know, there are a couple
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: of different guys.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Kane Hotter ultimately, but I think that he,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: you know, like for having four movies. I don't know
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: if he's always the best Jason. He knows who his
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: Jason is. Yeah, I mean I would say, I mean,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: if we're doing it now, like I would say at
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: this point, I'm like, no, I want to do it.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: I want to do it. When we got to the remake,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: I'm just talking about Kane Hotter. Yeah, but this is
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: the last Kane Hodder movie. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Chunky Face, Chunky Mask. I mean, they knew what they
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: were doing.
• 1:04:24
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• 1:04:28
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• 1:04:31
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• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: we talk about all kinds of different things. Like we
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: had a whole other season called.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: There's Squenchers and it was about cool Pantheon movies that
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: we love and also new classics. It was actually like
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: a season onto itself, dude, and it kind.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Of really it. Uh, it delves into the masculine movies,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: you know, and kind of what could be seen as
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: toxically masculine. So we've unpacked all of that ship in
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: those movies and also just talked about how cool they are.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: We might do like an extra cool special season, like
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: a Mel Gibson season. We don't know, but I will.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: I think if we do a Dude, if you do,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: if we do do a mel season, you have to
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: cut in all of all of the ranting. You have
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: to make us a rebags. You have to do a song. Dude. Well,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: and I would only do something like that on Patreon
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: because you have to pay to hear us talk about
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: the problematic stuff. Dude. Yeah, so, uh, you know, if
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: we trust you, if we trust you enough to come
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: pay to listen to us be talking about, well, don't
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: plenty energy, Jesus, dude, Jesus, don't plenty of should make
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: me want a smoke. You fuck my tay up.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: And that green thing you were wearing that's provocatively.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: It's funny because it shifts from evil mel Gibson that
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: you were wearing regular mel Gibson.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: It's so weird.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: And the way that he says some really scary, horrible
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: stuff racist violently racist, violently though.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: It's it's like, dare I say incredible, No, It's just
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: like like this guy was primed for like like QAnon style. Well,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: he did make the best movies about Jesus Christ, dude,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: did you I mean, I love that torture porn a
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: bachelor of Christ.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Did you know that he wanted to make a movie
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: about what was it, the Rothschild's and he wanted to
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: make like a comedy. People thought immediately he was like,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: you're gonna do something racist, and they were like he
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: was like, no, no, I swear we have to do
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: bel gives the roths Child's. Dude, we should do a
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: lead up to his dispatchial the Christ sequel and then
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: watch it in theaters.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Watch do like a live commentary from from the theater. Yeah,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean that's what you're missing. Guys, You're
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: missing you missing the Bel Gibson season. Anyway, We'll see
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: you next week with more Jason back m