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Episode 96: Our Thoughts on The Mandalorian Season 3, Episodes 1-4 (SPOILERS) · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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Hello there, it's time for most things Kenobi.
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I prefer all things Kenobi, but I suppose that's not the Jedi
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way as long as it's not all things Anakin.
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Hi everyone, welcome to another episode of most things Kenobi.
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A podcast about Obi-Wan Kenobi and all things Star Wars.
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I'm your host Lauren, and I'm your host Leanne, and this week,
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we're diving into the Mandalorian season three in
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particular. Yes, we're going to review what
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is up to this point in recording Time episodes 1 through 4?
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Yes. And we will try yes, let's try
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to go in order. Yes.
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And for those of you who are listening to this and you
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haven't seen episode for yet, we are not going to talk about it
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until the last part of this episode.
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So we'll give you a fair warning before we start talking about
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episode 4 so we won't spoil anything.
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So feel free to listen to the first three quarters of this
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episode and feel safe. We won't spoil anything until
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the very end. Yes.
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So yeah, the first episode of Bandos season 3 is called the
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apostate. Yes, I guess it sets up whatever
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this season is because it's kind of been all over the place,
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hasn't it? Yeah.
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It's been a bit, which is its kind of the Mandaue.
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Yeah. All these shows.
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They like dip in and out of each other's timelines and have
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little side tangents that they go off on.
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So I guess it's kind of the way they've set this up, even from
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the very beginning. Well, I have I have words for
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the first episode of Mandalorian season three and it is why?
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I'll come back to this. Hmm.
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Why did we start this season with violence towards a
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creature? Can someone answer me this?
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I'll I get it. Let me answer for me.
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It's a show about laser blasts and fun jet packs, and we look
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at what we can do. We space creatures, I'm over it.
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It's not my thing, it's not my favorite intro ever.
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I skipped over it. I actually don't even know what
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happened. I know that Dave filoni is a
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huge fan of his it Godzilla. I think is what it is.
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Yeah. And that whole, like, big scary
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monster representing, you know, existential fear, conquered by
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humans is like a thing from his childhood.
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It was very popular back in the day.
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I now that I have a pet, I never had one growing up, but now that
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I live with an animal and I love her very much.
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I cannot stand this kind of thing.
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It's hard to watch though they're fake.
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I know. Yeah.
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It's fake, but doesn't matter. It doesn't mean it's on screen.
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Yes. And it's teaching that anything
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big. It's an animal is inherently
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scary and dangerous and really you're punishing an animal for
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its inherent. Nature is what these, its
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existing Yes, exactly. I guess what?
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This group of cultist mandalorians showed up on its
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planet, right? I'll get off my, I'll get off my
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soapbox. I could go on for days about
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this. I know we've already angered
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people, right? Listen, it's just our opinion.
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Okay? Honestly, though my bigger like
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yes, I hate that. And then on top of that, I also
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think it's boring. It's not a story.
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And the fact that they go out the gate with that, I almost
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turned it off because I Bored. I do not like to have to
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fast-forward through the first 10 minutes of a brand-new season
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of something. Yeah.
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Okay. Like I I saw where it was going
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and I'm like, you know what, I guarantee this doesn't have
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anything to do with the plot line and it didn't know it does.
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It's it was purely for entertainment purposes which is
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one of my big gripes with Mando and like, I don't want to just
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spend the whole episode here just shit talking stuff, man,
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does not my favorite. Okay, I'm just gonna put it out
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there. It's not my favorite.
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Yeah we know we know but this monster-of-the-week thing or
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like action for Action, sake is not my thing.
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It's not my thing. It does not do anything for me.
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And you have what? 20 minutes, 40 minutes.
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However long these episodes are to get my attention and tell a
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story and you're wasting. I don't even know how long with
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a giant crocodile and really really bad.
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Facts where it looks like people on wires flying around.
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I just was like yeah, it wasn't a good way to set the tone for a
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new season. For me personally I know a lot
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of people loved it and I'm happy people loved it.
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That's really great. It's not for me.
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Yeah. Well I will say with that.
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I agree. I agree with everything you just
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said. I'm also okay with people liking
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it. Totally fine.
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Yeah. It's just not for me and I skip
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through it to get to the more Aunt parts of this episode in
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which there were many. Yeah, let's talk about those.
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Yeah, the first thing that was like, who was and I want to, I
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want to know your opinion on this when their Jet and through
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hyperspace. Grow, goo and Mando din.
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Mmm, he looks out girl who looks down and he sees the space
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whales it's our first live action.
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Space whale sighting. Hmm.
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Or The Purge. All right.
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All right, fucking space. Whales and I said oh oh.
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Okay, I see what you're doing there.
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I see what this is now, I want to ask you how you interpreted
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that scene. Was it a plane Easter egg, or do
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you think it had more meaning? I'm very curious, I'm not sure.
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Honestly I the thing I think of is something like really
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practical does that mean? The whales are going at light
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speed. Well yeah, that's where they
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travel. That's where they live and they
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and they do their thing they can travel at light speed, Okay?
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So, So they hang out in hyperspace Lanes.
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How do people not hit them all the time?
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They do. They do.
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If you research per jal's? There has been many a hyperspace
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Collision the ship. Always loses.
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Yeah, I imagine so yeah, but the thing is that only I believe the
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gifted can see / jal's like talk to him.
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Oh. Is that true?
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Well so I was so my theory is Grogan.
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Maybe this is where they're going with it.
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Maybe it's not this deep. I'm getting the sense that grow
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goo is going to turn into a force sensitive individual, who
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can communicate with animal spirits, much the same as Ezra.
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He could talk to the law, the law of wolves.
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He could speak to the / Joel. He could connect with the, you
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know, the spiritual animal creatures, and it kind of
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befriend them and use them and call upon them.
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I do wonder if that is where grow Goos thing is going to be
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with the Jedi and the fact that he saw the / Joel at such a
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young age, I just thought, okay, didn't clearly didn't see them.
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I thought Jim was just asleep and that's why he didn't see
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them. I don't know though.
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I like I didn't really in The Purge.
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All knows he's got his fucking helmet on.
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We can't tell. So, but I like to think that
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maybe he's developing some kind of sense for creatures.
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So which I'm going to come back to when we get to episode 4.
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Yeah, I was gonna say that there's something in for that
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would play into that theory for sure.
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Yeah, yeah yeah yeah. I I don't know.
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That was an interesting moment also it could also just be hey
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don't forget the Ahsoka shows coming out in a few.
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Right. Exactly.
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If alone you know, being like hey Rebels reference, yeah, I
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don't know it was very magical and I liked that scene in the
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fact that Ben Grogan Goes down and gets Advantage slap.
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And that's very you know it's very cute.
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The other cute thing was okay. I had DM's about this.
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Oh yeah. When they get to the high
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magistrate and they get to the town.
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What's the name of the town? I don't know.
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I ended up borrow isn't a borrower's that the planet, I
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don't know anything about man, Laurie.
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Okay, I'm sorry. Well, first of all, it's looking
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way better than it did in season 1.
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Yeah. It is much less shabby.
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It's Got itself. A bat to a Galaxy's Edge, is he
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feel to it as it really, literally felt.
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I literally felt like I was with Derek and Corey walking through
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galaxies Edge. I was like, oh, I recognize that
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even wondered if they filmed their, it was like, it looked
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so, blatant least Disneyland Disney World.
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Would it was so close to Beto if anyone's fucking been to the
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park, I need to know if anyone else felt this.
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Like, anyway, I got DM's about the fact that The coat the cloak
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holding Droids that the magistrate.
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Yes I did get I get messages about this as well.
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I need me a pair of those that guy's gotten out of high horse.
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He sure has hey he's offering not plots of land to man do he
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you know if you want to live peacefully and be the town
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sheriff you know get yourself a pair of jet Spurs.
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No it's just like there was a similar Our offer made to the
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bad batch and then, one of the more recent episode.
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Yeah, I thought that was kind of interesting that they're having
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these parallel stories where it's these two kind of, like,
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disparate sets of people and their kind of wandering through
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the Galaxy. And also there's the Side Story
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of cloning it's going on and both both shows.
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I do that. I think that's kind of
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interesting. Yeah that yeah especially when
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they're being released their at the same time.
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Yes I know that batch is running concurrently they're like
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overlapping a bit. It's interesting.
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For whoever is watching both and trying to keep them straight
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kudos to you because I'm watching them one show to time.
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I have to digest one show at a time.
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It's a lot and I would say I don't know about you but the hit
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of episode 1 of this season was the end zelans.
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Why do you want money? When when the when he little you
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know looking Babu freak it wasn't him but it was his every
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step. I be frank.
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It's a species when he came to the Dorset.
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What do you want? I felt that every time someone
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comes to my door I say what do you want?
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You know, I just felt that in my soul and then how grow goo like
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wants to hug them and pick them up.
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Ya know, squeeze. No squeeze.
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Yeah. Squeeze bad.
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Baby is very cute. I don't think the ends Ellen's
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get enough love. I was happy to see them.
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They're great mechanics. I don't know what the fuck
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they're saying. I heard I don't know if this is
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true because I haven't looked it up personally.
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I heard they're voiced by the woman who is Moaning Myrtle in
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the Harry Potter movie. Shut up.
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Wait, do we talked about this before?
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Because I think I had the exact same reaction.
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It is definitely a woman. It is voicing I Notch.
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I like I said, I haven't looked it up, so I can't confirm that.
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That's funny. But I do love that they have.
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All these Harry Potter actors showing up and I'll just start,
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who's Oh yeah, they've got and or yeah Cyril's mother.
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Is that too? And then hand or his mother is
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all genders mother? Yes.
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Yeah, I loved Fiona Shaw my hero.
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I love her. Oh my God.
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Come back Marva. She'll be back.
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She's never gone. No one's ever really gone.
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Besides she was in a brick that was used to bash.
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Someone's skull in greatest moment ever.
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She got her Fucking Revenge. I thought I love and art so
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much. God we need to recap that show
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again. Just kind of do.
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We're gonna do we're gonna do like favorite quotes from hand
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or we're going to do favorite moments.
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It's just going to be great. Yeah.
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Anyway so he needs the brain of that ig-88 or whatever.
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The assassin Droid is you have what he wanted it to accompany
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him to Mandalore which happens in the next episode.
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Yeah, I just Why like well the it's alleged he's being told all
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these things - fucking called that the air is unbreathable.
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It's poisonous, you can't go there.
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It's not livable nothing lives there.
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Nothing could survive there and he finds out to be completely
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false, even those, a little surprised we didn't talk about
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bow on her throne, I was going to say which episode is that in?
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Well, he goes to Mandalore, and finally lands on Mandalore
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surface, in episode 2, but he approaches bow at the end of
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episode 1. She's chilling on her on her
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throne looking pissed. Oh, that's the end of episode 1.
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Okay, yes, I did. Watch it all.
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I just can't keep it straight because I'm also watching Bad
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badge, no joke. Well don't worry, I took notes.
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Okay, good for us to keep us straight.
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I literally have episode 1, episode 2, episode 3, episode 4
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annotated, with different points.
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So thank God because literally, I was sitting on my couch,
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eating dinner and I was like, should I put it on and like
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recap on his? Like, I really can't bring
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myself to do it. I got you.
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You. Thank you.
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I got you. So we talked about Bo all last
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week. So if you want Bo content head
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on over to last week, the very previous episode to this one and
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check out some bow content along with some stettin content
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because yes, we cover the sisters over there.
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So that was a fun episode to episode two is the minds of
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Mandalore? Yes, my question is, have we
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never heard about these mines prior to the show?
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No, I don't think so, at least not.
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Clone Wars may be Rebels but I'm not as familiar with Rebels as I
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am with Clone Wars. Yeah, I can't quite remember if
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it was mentioned in Rebels and if it was obviously, I don't
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remember. So it didn't stick with me, but
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this whole thing with the mines and the waters and stuff.
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I, I was it was a little new to me, which I'm, I'm cool with.
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I'm cool with new lower. Yeah, I had problems with some
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of bows dialogue when okay, so man, Do goes beneath ground.
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The Droid goes. He goes after the Droid things
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happen, right? Hmm.
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I'm getting ahead of myself. What did you think of the
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creature with the eyeball? The big mechanical creature.
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Well, it was in a, it was in one of those shell Walker's.
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The thing that took him that thing.
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Yeah. It was like it had like an
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eyeball in a glass. Okay.
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So interesting. I thought it was interesting.
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I liked that. It was like a sentient eyeball
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clearly. It was some other That it made a
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mechanic I kept thinking of maul and his spider legs.
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I kept thinking of Grievous. Yeah.
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Oh my God, what a no. See that's the thing, right?
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That's the problem I have with man do, is they introduce
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something like this? And they never talk about it
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ever again, it has nothing to do with anything and they
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introduced it into the story as though, it's part of the lore.
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And then they dip it into the dip out.
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And I actually don't like that because what's the fucking point
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then you know, like, Just over there.
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Yeah he got taken by something and oh my God, it's torturing
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him and then it's okay she gave him some soup and he's fine.
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Why did that happen? Little a little hair of the dog.
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It was an excuse to get both on to Mandalore is what it was.
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Yes. But of course.
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Yeah. Like that they could have done
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it in a kind of made it more engaging.
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Like I don't know. I just fighting and action,
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doesn't engage me. I'll shut up.
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You say nice. This is true.
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I have a podcast I know but I'll get death threats over this
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shit. It's not worth my God.
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I hope not. Listen, this is just fantasy,
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this is all fantasy talk. We're just going through the man
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do here. I I was intrigued by the thing
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with the eye number one because it seemed kind of dark and then
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it got up in one of those shell crawlers things.
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It was scary. It was didn't remind you of the
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Citadel episodes where the shells droids come at, like the
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crab droids come out. I keep saying shell, but I mean
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crab. Grab crab.
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Yeah, I actually wasn't an actual crab Droid that it was in
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and I just sense if it like took an abandoned one from the war or
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so yes. When the Empire the night of a
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thousand million billion tears or whatever it was yes, is that
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what made up the Waters of Mandalore were the tears?
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The actual tears, heat the milk, all the were elated sobbed so
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much it made a pool that it lives in?
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Yes. Yes, thing in tears.
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I mean it's just a theory, but we got the fucking mythis.
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Our I know that was very cool and I loved that whole scene and
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that, yes, that place, I love that bow, saw it.
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I love that. She had a moment to herself with
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it. Mmm, it didn't was it what?
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Dragged him down? Because I didn't get the
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impression that it was, it seemed to not want to be
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bothered. Yeah.
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Yeah, from what she said that the pool was never that deep,
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but she thinks that when they bombed some Dari, basically, it
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created a cavern, it like opened up even for.
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So when he was just stepping, he stepped off the edge of a okay,
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like a continental shelf kind of without nausea, that that was
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going to happen and so that I guess, okay, because I wasn't
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sure if like, oh no, another sea creature.
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Pulled him down. I couldn't tell.
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I didn't know either. It seem like it at first, it
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would be really funny if it was a diet Go like in the garbage.
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Oh my gosh, right. Yes.
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I mean, it did trash the city so man.
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Oh God. Yeah.
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But I loved that. It didn't attack her.
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Yeah, it just kind of like went on its way.
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They like looked at each other because the myth right is that
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the original Mandalore subdued didn't say killed the mythus or
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they said it's sub noted so maybe it just tamed it or
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created a mutually beneficial relationship.
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Ation ship with it. Oh no.
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But hey, I recognize you you recognize me.
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Let's just go on our separate ways.
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Yeah. Well nobody about this?
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Exactly. Yeah, B.
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And let be for the first time ever on the show.
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Maybe it's right shit. I'd say yeah, so here's that.
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Here's what I want to bring up to you.
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Do you think we're going to get to a point where grow, gu can
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subdue the mythus? Come the Mandalorian of great
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Legends and tales. That would be fucking crazy.
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I mean this is a stretch but what if they need to talk to
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the, the mythis or, and everyone wants to kill it or something,
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and everybody fights each other trying to ride it and grow, goo,
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just comes up and puts his hand out like he did with the rancor
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and then they take a nap together like you did with the
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wrinkles. So fucking cute, wasn't it?
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Oh my God. Yes, I was big giant beast and
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this tiny little A tiny little creature.
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I love that. Yes, I love that idea of grow.
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Goo communing with the animals. Maybe he'll meet us for some
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day. They can hang out and talk about
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animal stuff. The Peugeot be Virgil or
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whatever. Yeah.
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Well ripping out that I don't know purrgil / djal there it's
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probably called purrgil. Honestly if Angela seems in Star
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Wars George Lucas, always said everyone could pronounce things
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the way they want, because that's how real life is.
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So because if Can wear Costco sneakers.
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I better be able to pronounce space will however I want.
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Well, that's why some people say Millennium Falcon?
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And some people say Falcon and some say handsome ceyhan.
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It's fine. Look twi'lek.
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Yeah, exactly. It's all good / gonna Purge
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away? It's fine.
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Yeah, that's fine. Good.
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Well these are my thoughts. I love that idea.
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Even if it's just fluff, I'm going to assign a deeper meaning
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of it all to Me, I do hope it has a deeper meaning it kind of
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feels like it must since Bo clearly had a moment there when
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she saw and it kind of came up again in, I don't know if it was
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in this episode of the next one, where she kind of asks, din, did
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you see anything while you were down there and that's in episode
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3, right? I think it is actually because I
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think the episode ends right when they come up out of the
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water. And yeah, kind of and then they,
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the next episode starts there. Think yeah, episode 3 was the
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best so far if you ask me. Yeah, it was the longest episode
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thus far, it had the most storyline character building had
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the best effects with that opening fight scene with the Tie
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fighters, and some of those Tie fighters we haven't seen since
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the original trilogy, like the design, I can't think of the
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name of the design right now, but those type of Tie fighters
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were so here we are. This timeline right now is like
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five years, Pat, Post Return of the Jedi so they would still be
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used if necessary. Right?
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There's like Pockets because even throngs still exists and
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yeah the Empire is weakened but there's still plenty of
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outliers, you know, causing trouble for the new Republic.
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So I kind of forget that you know, because I'm so used to
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seeing the Empire show up in all of Star Wars.
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So I just my brain, just when I see it.
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I think there they are and now it's I have to remind myself.
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And man do it's like know the Empire is on the run and there's
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still causing trouble for Bo and bomb her house.
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So why though, I don't like they did but she can't sit on her
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fucking Throne anymore and think about things.
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I know she has to move on. I don't know, she said that,
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it's because she stole the star Cruiser, whatever.
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It was that she had didn't stole, remember with moff
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Gideon, and Yeah, that whole thing.
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So I guess the Empire is after her for that but then why go
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home like when that's looks for your very?
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Yeah, that seems that doesn't seem.
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I don't, I feel like there's something else at work here.
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It's because she's trying to like build a rebellion of her
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own to retake Mandalore. They don't want her to do that.
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I don't know who else didn't have still has the darksaber.
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She still wants it from din. I mean technically well.
23:18
Can use it, and he seems to really struggle with.
23:20
Absolutely, we didn't even talk about how badass she was with
23:24
the darksaber. It's like, please someone get a
23:27
notebook and write it down for Dan since he's incapacitated
23:30
currently like, that was. So I love seeing a woman fight
23:35
with a sword. That was awesome and a shield.
23:38
By the way, those Shields are sold at Disney.
23:41
If anyone was or they, we, we got to use them in the star
23:45
Cruiser. That's cool.
23:46
Oh, that's we trained with With them the like little bit fucking
23:50
shape that round one. I'll how cool.
23:52
Yep. That's awesome.
23:53
Like small. Just fit on your arm.
23:56
They light up. Yeah.
23:57
So cool. Yeah.
23:59
That was great to see. Because didn't struggles, he
24:01
barely like can lift it, which is just really funny because
24:05
it's made of plasma and anyone who's into sword fighting and
24:10
fencing. They always say a plasma sword
24:12
would weigh nothing. Nothing that they wouldn't have
24:16
any heft at all. It's the psychological weight of
24:20
it. All right, exactly.
24:23
The struggle. She's not struggling because she
24:25
has had it before she's lost it before she deserves to probably
24:30
have it. I mean, technically by name,
24:32
she'll have to killed in to take it.
24:34
I guess that's not probably not going to happen, how about they
24:38
just get married and then she can be queen of Mandalore and he
24:44
could be king of Mandalore and they can have their baby Yoda.
24:47
That would be cute. No, I'm not buying it though.
24:49
No, I'm not either, but that's like the way to solve that
24:51
problem. I guess you can have the sword
24:54
by marriage. Oh, you just said, that's the
24:57
way, which I mean, this is the way right in episode 3.
25:03
They're sitting in the ship didn't says.
25:06
This is the way Bo says, this is the way grow go in.
25:09
The back goes. Yeah, which was he trying to
25:15
say? This is the way everyone thinks
25:17
so yeah. Yes, that's what I am.
25:20
I love that so much. I really do.
25:25
He wants to be like that. You want?
25:27
That's his crew. I know.
25:29
I love that. He's got his little chain mail
25:31
shirt underneath. He does.
25:33
Now he has a new accessory from episode 4.
25:36
It's got a new accessory, he's building himself an ensemble.
25:45
It is going to grow out of in, like, two minutes.
25:48
Yeah. Signals maybe his DC, like,
25:51
about 200 years, 200 years. He'll grow out of it.
25:55
So, that's good. That's good.
25:57
Jeez. So episode 3 is where they
26:01
diverge right, that's where they introduced.
26:04
Corrects a new Republic. Yes, we go back to Coruscant.
26:09
And we get a fucking Ted talk about DNA and cloning which it's
26:16
true Coruscant technically to talk x-series Coruscant.
26:21
I loved every single part of whatever that was in the middle
26:27
of that episode with the Coruscant stuff and the doctor
26:30
and Elijah illya. Yeah, well, I'm not really sure
26:34
how to say it. I don't remember.
26:35
But, yeah, her that's awesome. It was interesting because we
26:39
Got to see, what does the new Republic do with X Empire
26:42
people? They give them numbers just like
26:45
clone. Yeah, which I thought was
26:47
fucking weird. Yeah, I thought so too.
26:50
I did not like them. Giving them numbers.
26:53
That's not how you make somebody like it's dehumanizing.
26:56
It is it's they're repeating. Mistakes is basically what
27:00
they're doing are. Yeah, they are and it's not
27:04
working. As you can see based on the
27:07
doctor decides to continue. You is research.
27:09
Hey, I'm all about scientific research and following your
27:13
passion. It's what I've done.
27:14
It's what I do. I don't fuck with DNA for my
27:18
job, but thank God. But if you have a passion
27:22
project and you're not going to use it for nefarious purposes,
27:24
doctor continue your passion don't let the rules stop you.
27:28
But could you just take five seconds to appreciate the
27:31
therapist Droid that he has? Yeah.
27:36
I think I like who thought that it was a good idea that wouldn't
27:41
eventually lead to a person feeling more and more isolated
27:44
and dehumanized. I know you don't even get to
27:47
talk to a person. You have to talk to a piece of
27:51
metal that tells you what to do. It's true if nobody wants
27:56
theirs. On course I'm offering to take
27:59
theirs from them. I think it would be great to
28:02
have the conversation at the end of the day.
28:04
How did work make you feel today?
28:06
Lee Anne, what if anything could you have done better, To improve
28:09
you and your work, your co-workers space like, you know,
28:13
just shit like that. But you said to me that place
28:16
looked where his quarters were the barracks of whatever these
28:19
like convert. Swor look just like Cyril's
28:21
house from and or he did I agree.
28:23
I know that cereals mother lived below a little bit below the
28:27
surface and these didn't seem to be that way, but they had that
28:30
same look to them, which is kind of like Mass housing.
28:34
You know, you see that and any kind of city of Course right, or
28:39
even student housing. Sure.
28:41
Yeah. It reminded me of certainly
28:43
reminded me of dorms that I've lived in it was nicer than many
28:46
dorms that lifting. Yeah, it's barely nicer than a
28:52
prison. It's like you have the freedom
28:54
to come and go. But you have to report in, you
28:56
have to have a name or a number, as a name.
28:58
You have to go through repetitive shit.
29:01
Every day to prove that you're no longer the way you were.
29:04
I mean, it's very jail like and you have a perimeter in the
29:07
city, you have to stay Within And yeah, I mean, all of this
29:11
makes sense if they were with the Empire.
29:13
Why would you just accept anybody from the Empire?
29:16
And be like, oh, yeah, no, they're cool.
29:17
Now, it's cool for sure. It's, I get why they're doing
29:21
it. It's just especially higher-ups,
29:23
right? Because if you think of World
29:25
War Two, is an example right there, German infantry or not
29:29
necessarily Nazis, right? So like the Germans after the
29:34
war, they weren't punished. I mean I can't speak to this.
29:39
On a deeper level, but I could say on a more, well, they
29:41
weren't held to the same level that the, the what are they?
29:45
The SS is, they were exactly that's the much differently
29:48
point. I'm trying to make exactly.
29:50
Do you know the hearings, the trials?
29:53
All of that. The Nuremberg trials that was
29:55
all about SS, the higher-ups and they were held like you said to
30:00
a different standard. So the fact that there's a
30:01
mixture of like research scientists and like, I guess
30:07
their officers, the other There were officers in the housing
30:11
with him. It's kind of a weird.
30:14
It's weird that they're all together.
30:16
Yeah. Well, let's not forget that the
30:18
new Republic at this time is actually on chandrila.
30:22
They had moved it from Coruscant to chandrila.
30:25
Mon mothma is home play in Canon.
30:28
They did. Yeah.
30:29
So I didn't know that all of the like core influential people
30:36
from the new Republic were on a complete and then they moved it
30:38
to hosnian Prime. Prime and that's why they blew
30:40
up hosnian Prime. So they kept it moving.
30:42
Wow. So that it was never in one spot
30:44
to prevent like it being blown up like get it eventually.
30:47
Ended up getting done a good job, but they weren't expecting
30:52
another Death Star. I don't think, but they were
30:55
trying to keep it, keep it moving.
30:59
Is this in a book? I know I read it on.
31:02
I was trying to read up on like New Republic stuff.
31:05
When I wrote my story. Okay, interests.
31:07
I believe, I believe it. Was I don't know if it's at this
31:11
timeline of the Mandalorian, but I do believe like there's
31:14
there's new Republic stuff going on on Coruscant, but the core of
31:18
it was moved to chandrila at this time.
31:20
Okay, interesting. That's really interesting.
31:23
I didn't know that. I thought it was kind of
31:24
interesting to see Coruscant after we had seen it in and or
31:28
oh, well, do you recall the last time we've seen that rock?
31:33
Well, I don't know, but has it been shown again since Clone
31:36
Wars? I don't know.
31:36
But I do definitely right. I don't I don't Not know, but
31:39
the only time I have in memory is Obi-Wan is the teen at the
31:43
Rock. Yes.
31:43
Which we didn't know that's what it was at the time.
31:47
Yeah. We never, we were never told
31:48
that the minute they showed that that town, square or whatever.
31:52
I knew exactly. It was that same place where
31:54
Obi-Wan and stettin meet undercover was very fun to
31:57
imagine them in their cloaks around.
32:00
I know, it's kind of cool. That was interesting that mount
32:04
you mate or whatever it's called.
32:06
Yeah, I don't know, but that's really puts it in perspective,
32:08
doesn't It just how insane Coruscant.
32:11
Yeah it kind of made the seat of my pants drop out a little bit
32:14
thinking that like that's the highest point natural point on
32:20
that planet and it was like a kid could climb over in a play
32:23
in a schoolyard. Like it's fucking terrified,
32:25
it's really crazy. And that there are skyscrapers
32:29
that go hundreds of feet above it up into the air.
32:33
So when holy shit tunnels, go way down well and this is a good
32:38
question for you. Like What the fuck is the
32:40
atmosphere there as holy shit? Well you have to think.
32:45
Do we ever see whether in the atmosphere?
32:48
Of course, no. And anything I've read and I
32:50
haven't read anything recent, so I don't know if they've changed
32:52
this in Cannon or not, but there is no like real night and day,
32:56
it's kind of like simulated. So they must have a biome
33:00
controlling Shield which to me just sounds like a house.
33:04
That's never had its Windows opened.
33:06
That sounds gross. Well, that's not the point.
33:10
I'm getting to, you have that many vehicles and I'm not sure
33:14
if there is exhaust in those space, powered vehicles.
33:17
But I mean, you have restaurant, homes power, plants, ships,
33:22
hundreds of thousands of ships of all sizes, of all makes, some
33:26
of them are going to be older than others.
33:28
So not repaired versus repaired. Think of all the things we know
33:31
from this planet, and if you don't have a turnover of
33:35
atmosphere, it's going to be one blanket gross.
33:38
Of Smaug. Yeah.
33:40
So you need some kind of atmospheric turn over to keep it
33:43
fresh, and breathable. Otherwise, you're just inhaling
33:46
particulates, it's like breathing it into a plastic bag,
33:51
basically. Yeah.
33:52
So is it any different than Mandalore the bubble?
33:57
The Dome of man. Like me.
33:58
I've thought that actually, I had the same thought that's in
34:01
Dari, being a glass. Bubble was similar sense to
34:05
Coruscant because it's so sterile I saw on Star Wars
34:08
Explained. They did a little short thing
34:11
about this. You might say and they were
34:13
saying it was also referenced in the Huayra public that the
34:16
chancellor of the whole time. Went to visit it to remind
34:19
herself that nothing is too big that.
34:21
It can't be conquered, including herself and the Republic.
34:25
Mmm, I like that. Very interesting.
34:27
It was so, so deeply depressing. It's like the example of humans,
34:31
being a virus, you know, on a planet and just consuming every
34:35
living space on its kind of Horror.
34:38
Big, actually, if you think about it, but I thought it was
34:41
interesting to see Coruscant again, because an and, or they
34:45
made it much less sparkly, which is funny because the word
34:47
Coruscant means glittery, like sparkly, and it's very cold, and
34:53
they even use like cold color palettes and, and, or make it
34:56
very sterile and empty and cold looking.
34:59
And now, it's kind of like glittery again and like, how it
35:02
looked in the prequels so, well, it's all fresh and new and the
35:05
new Republican, the Empire's defeated in here works.
35:08
And electricals, suckers are lollipops.
35:12
Whatever those word. That was fun.
35:13
Yeah I don't know. I would eat one.
35:16
They seem fun. Good.
35:17
Okay. Well I guess that that brings us
35:19
to the coolest part of episode 3 which is old Elijah ilaria.
35:25
What is her fucking name? Short haired girl with who's
35:28
badass that we don't even know if she's with the new Republic
35:30
or not. I don't know her name and they
35:32
named the thing, the Mind flayer, which is the actual name
35:35
of the, The Dungeons & Dragons creatures.
35:38
They named the monster in stranger things.
35:41
After really? Yeah, it's called The Mind
35:44
flayer. So, if anyone's out there, who's
35:45
a stranger fan, stranger things Fan Day.
35:48
The thing they use to like, burn the memory is called a mind
35:52
flayer, which is really a dungeon and Dragons reference,
35:55
so I'm sure your nerd rap monster, that's on purpose,
35:59
honestly is truly. Oh yeah, well anyway, she did
36:03
one damn gruesome cold heartless thing there with the doctor.
36:08
Doctor. She sure did she's probably
36:10
she's probably trying to Blake do something to get back with
36:14
moff Gideon. She still an Empire person.
36:16
Yeah, I think that they, well, when the episode started, they
36:19
did a recap and we're showing, I can't remember if it was muff
36:22
Gideon, whoever it was said that they had like an assignment for
36:25
her specifically. And I think it was to go find
36:29
dr. Pershing, and basically, make
36:31
sure he couldn't say anything to anyone about anything.
36:35
Well, shit, mission accomplished.
36:38
Published I guess and she ate a cookie while she watched his
36:42
mind get flayed. So that is wrong.
36:45
Ugh, dude. But also what are the best
36:47
things I think about that episode?
36:49
It was yes, so good. So that was real.
36:53
That was real shit right there. That is what really happens when
36:58
you take an X Empire member and pretend to reintegrate them back
37:03
into society and nope, they still believe everything.
37:06
They believe beforehand. And they are mad.
37:09
Now I know it's like poking a wounded Beast.
37:13
Basically it's yes. It's kind of terrifying the
37:17
length though goes dark and I loved it.
37:20
It was really good. It was really and I did feel
37:23
this to me. Almost felt like Dave filoni.
37:27
Give me a Little Love Letter to clone wars because it was kind
37:31
of the chorus. Not.
37:31
We were used to seeing in Clone Wars, they took the train total
37:35
that. We've seen a Soca eyes the
37:36
train, it was really cool. To see all of that.
37:39
Yeah, you are absolutely, right? We could talk about episode
37:42
three four, five more hours but with can push it.
37:45
Yeah. And that brings us to the
37:47
episode that just debuted today. The day that were recording this
37:50
which is episode 4, and I hated it.
37:55
I hated the last half of the episode to the point where I
37:59
kind of don't care about anything else that happens in
38:01
the season, I did not like it again again, it's the whole
38:05
thing about harming and animal for doing.
38:08
Doing what it does naturally and then there's always a bigger
38:11
fish, you know. Like the dragon gets eaten by
38:13
the giant massive crocodile. It was just like okay well
38:18
here's the thing. Okay, for everyone who hasn't
38:20
seen episode 4 stop. Now, we'll see you in the next
38:24
episode. For everyone who has seen
38:26
episode for proceed forward. Did they have to have a mother
38:32
with three? Babies.
38:34
Yeah. Could they have just not had
38:37
three? Orphaned babies that they now
38:40
have to deal with and my Soap Box aside.
38:43
I do think that grow goo is going to end up calming them,
38:47
taming them. That's where all of this.
38:50
My idea is going is that they're not going to be able to do it
38:53
themselves. Yes, they're not a very loving
38:55
race. Let's put it that way.
38:57
These fucking cult mandalorians or mandalorians in general?
39:00
Yes, I don't see any of them. Raising three creatures that
39:04
they have no business raising, and that they caused the death
39:08
of the The mother. So it's their fault, their
39:11
responsibility. And I think Roku is going to be
39:13
the one to help them in this respect.
39:15
Yeah, I agree. I think that's probably where
39:18
it's going to go. They're Gonna basically
39:20
brainwash these dragons so that they'll raise them themselves,
39:24
they'll care for them. So they won't happen them as an
39:27
enemy. They'll be compatriots or you
39:30
could have just left the fucking thing alone.
39:34
I guess we're supposed to be like, well, at least they're
39:36
going to care for the babies but honestly, I just know, it goes
39:41
back to the wise words of a rap artist, if you don't start no
39:45
shit, there won't be no shit. It's true.
39:49
So don't start no shit and there won't be no shit man.
39:53
Do you can blame the dragon took the kid first, okay, but he has
39:59
to feed. She has to feed her babies so
40:01
she's just doing what she needs to do.
40:03
Exact they chose this fucking planet.
40:06
Okay, here's another thing, they're so egotistical, I'm
40:09
gonna get real angry. I don't give a fuck.
40:11
Go for it there. So, egotistical that after the
40:16
alligator, they're like, oh, you know what?
40:19
We Can still stay here. It's fine.
40:21
And then they mention that, that it happened to another one of
40:24
them that this Dragon took there was the helmet is in the nest.
40:28
Yes. So please explain to me why
40:30
you're still fucking on this planet.
40:32
It's what humans do we show up and we take a thing and we beat
40:36
everything around it into submission until I got a real
40:39
problem with that you chew and I got a real fucking problem with
40:43
it. They also Godly and I don't have
40:46
anything nice to say. It's okay.
40:49
We can talk about the nicer. Things we can move on from this
40:51
Army. I just like the whole intro of
40:53
them all fighting and practicing it was lazy fucking lame.
40:58
I don't know. It doesn't even look good,
41:01
right? Like the stunt actors are it was
41:04
kind of, like, slow motion. You could tell, no one can see
41:07
in their helmets. Like it's not really obvious.
41:10
You dare take them off, don't you?
41:11
Dare take them off. Yeah, the fact that Beau had to
41:15
ask, how do you eat? I'm glad someone finally Rest it
41:18
though. That was my question.
41:20
Oh yeah. How do you shower?
41:24
Do you shower please? You take a bath in the tears of
41:28
Mandalore, in the water. Isn't with your helmet on the
41:32
entire job. Yeah God.
41:35
Yeah. Not my favorite episode.
41:37
However, we will end on a very positive note that Ahmad.
41:41
Best got his fucking Star Wars Redemption and I am very very
41:45
happy for him. Yeah, that was badass.
41:48
He is the hero who saved Grogan. We were all wondering, I know
41:52
but for a long time and he also he not only did he rescue him,
41:57
he takes him out into course that and lands on a platform
41:59
where there's is no boo-boo. The Naboo guard is.
42:05
So who is Fred? Like, what is this right?
42:09
That's pretty cool. I thought that was even more.
42:11
I love seeing these flashbacks that we've had at the Jedi
42:14
Temple and the Kenobi series and now and DeLorean seeing the Jedi
42:20
fighting. Like I love, you know, the
42:22
prequels are fun, but these people are not fighting with
42:27
fake sticks. You know, they actually give
42:29
them like lightsabers that glow and they look really cool
42:32
people. And yes, they do, like, stunts
42:35
coordinating has come a really long way from where was he
42:39
during the prequels? And the fighting is so much
42:42
cooler and because it's people doing it for real and they're
42:44
barely like the prequels. It was all we It was all
42:49
computer-generated, it was the dawn of the era of
42:52
computer-generated stuff. Yeah.
42:54
And George. Lucas really overdid it because
42:56
he was super excited about it. Is what it is?
43:00
He was committed, but it's cooler to see real people doing
43:03
it because now, like, some coordination has come so far as
43:06
saying, I'm at best with two. Lightsabers to not only oh my
43:12
God and did he do it? Well, kudos, yes, round of a
43:16
fucking claws, dude. You had Two lightsabers blue and
43:19
green, which I loved. Yeah, like symbolism.
43:22
Yes, you know, I always put this symbolism and things protection
43:26
and peace. I don't know.
43:27
And and he got his Redemption. He's the hero.
43:31
It's as Star Wars come back, don't call it a comeback.
43:36
It's a brand-new Jedi with a brand new day and he handled
43:40
that shit. Oh, man, he handled the Clones,
43:43
like nothing. He was kind to grow goo.
43:45
He had Naboo, people at his back at his beck and call.
43:48
All well, it makes me wonder Naboo is where Jar Jar's from?
43:52
So perhaps true. Yeah, maybe it was a nod to
43:56
maybe charge our stuff there. Waiting to get Baby Otis.
44:00
All I know Jesus. Can you imagine I'll fight?
44:03
You would not be safe. Yeah, that was great to see.
44:09
I felt happy for him. That was the best part of the
44:11
episode. Yeah, his story like of what
44:13
happened to him when he was playing jar jar.
44:15
Like I didn't so sad like George are either, but that doesn't
44:18
mean people should put so much hate on the actors.
44:21
It's really horrible. We can do better, and we should
44:24
do better as a fandom. I think it was great.
44:27
They gave him that role. They gave him this place in the
44:31
story. He's getting the love.
44:33
He deserves on social media from what I've seen.
44:35
Seen so far, which is great. Very obviously, was a choice
44:39
made as an apology to make things, right?
44:42
A well-intended perfectly done. Way to give an actor his do in
44:48
the best way possible. Because it could have been Yoda
44:50
could have been Obi-Wan, how we going to fit this in?
44:52
How's it going to work in the timeline?
44:54
It doesn't, we do have to worry about any of that.
44:55
We haven't a Jedi in the form of this man, who saved, girl, goo
44:59
and who knows where his story goes from here.
45:02
We don't see him in Return of the Jedi, so, It would be pretty
45:07
fucking cool though. If this new Jedi takes grow goo
45:10
and gives them like hand them off to Quinlan Voss who for the
45:15
past oh fuck me. What did you just say?
45:22
No shit. I never thought of that.
45:24
I thought for a minute before I saw a spoiler, someone said
45:28
something about I'm at best being in this episode coming up
45:31
and and then I figured it was not going to be but I was like
45:34
maybe Quinlan is who saved? Baby Yoda.
45:37
He's so good. I'm having a moment over here.
45:41
Still don't know. Why would they teased him in
45:44
Obi-Wan? Don't without intending to bring
45:46
him into the larger picture? I really hope they do because I
45:49
think is a really fun character and I would love to see that
45:52
please. Let it happen.
45:54
Please. Let it happen to plea.
45:56
Fucking awesome. I will say one other thing about
46:01
this episode that I did like and actually brought a little tear
46:04
to my eye, When the armorer made grow goo, his placard and I
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don't know if it's supposed to be on his shoulder at some point
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or whatever it is but well, he'll grow into it.
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Yeah, I'd like the whole idea of a little pieces donated from
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each member and they melt it down and create this new piece
46:24
of armor to protect him, just as you reforge yourself, you know,
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and grow and yeah, find the weak points and I was, I thought that
46:33
was very beautiful and I really Like that.
46:36
That to me was you're right. Very filoni to me and I liked
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that bitch, very much. Yeah, and it was, it was
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heartwarming because of the absolute awfulness.
46:46
That grow goo went through, and he's found his new Clan.
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The Jedi were his old Clan, they're gone now, so now he's
46:54
found his new Clinic. Oh, no.
46:56
This little trauma that he's carrying inside his little tiny
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body and no one to talk to, because no one speaks his
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language. It's well, that's why I think he
47:04
can talk to animals. He can talk.
47:05
The creatures though understanding also, one other
47:09
thing, just in case, people didn't know.
47:11
I think, people know, though this episode was directed by
47:14
Carl Weathers is the magistrate. Oh, well, there you have, it
47:18
read to me. Like, Carl Weathers is always
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gonna be himself from Arrested Development.
47:24
Like, that's always how I see for sure.
47:27
No matter what. Yeah, I think it's kind of cool.
47:29
They let him direct an episode. That was cool.
47:32
Well, that's the recap of the first four episodes.
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I don't know. If we'll do a recap of the next
47:37
few will see where this happened this season goes, but yeah, we
47:41
had to talk about it because, I mean, it's out there, there's
47:44
some good stuff in it. There's some questionable stuff
47:47
in it, but I'll tell you what my mother's loving it.
47:50
Well if she's been quoting the end zelans for four fucking
47:53
weeks. No.
47:55
But bokken a bokken, not your friend anymore, you know, she's
47:59
been squeak quoting than zelans for weeks now.
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That's so good. I love her for it.
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Join us back here. Next week, we are going to do
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another Obi-Wan Centric episode. We are going to re-examine
48:18
Revenge of the Sith. Now, that we know what happens
48:21
in Clone Wars season 7 with emphasis on Obi-Wan, anything
48:25
will be very interesting because we've all kind of loosely talked
48:28
about it, but we haven't really deep dive into it and like the
48:31
meeting in the things, we know now and how it could have played
48:34
into Thing that we know in Revenge of the Sith could
48:37
totally change how certain scenes feel now.
48:41
Because so yeah, we know about Ahsoka and everything, so it
48:44
should be really interesting. Yeah, I've been to I think I'm
48:46
ready for some more ob1 Leanne. I need some, it's been a while.
48:52
It's been a Kenobi drought. And we end it next week.
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