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You've Been Gilmored: Crack Staff · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I Am all In. Oh, Let's kiss you.
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  Speaker 2: I Am all in with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one of
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  Speaker 1: them productions iHeart Radio. One on one interview with the
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  Speaker 1: one and Only Crackstaff and it's Suzanne French, who has
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  Speaker 1: been in my life since twenty seventeen. She's been involved
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  Speaker 1: in a lot of goings ons. She was part of
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  Speaker 1: the music tour. She has been very helpful. She's been
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  Speaker 1: a really great loyal team member for these seven years
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  Speaker 1: and hope it continues. She's just terrific. Her and her
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  Speaker 1: husband John have been very very helpful. And I met
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  Speaker 1: them through my chief assistant, Elina Spinoza, who a lot
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  Speaker 1: of you know out there because you interact with her
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  Speaker 1: so often online and on my socials and all that stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and there's so many of you that I had to
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  Speaker 1: delegate all that stuff to them because I just there
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  Speaker 1: weren't enough hours in the day. I tried to do
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  Speaker 1: it in the beginning, but it means a lot that
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  Speaker 1: Susanne will come on. She's a true, true, truly hard worker.
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  Speaker 1: She's got a regular job and she does this in
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  Speaker 1: addition to so we really thank her. We're gonna's bring
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  Speaker 1: her own Susanne French.
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  Speaker 2: It's me.
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  Speaker 1: How you been, I'm good? How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: So look, look, let's get started by telling the people
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  Speaker 1: how you know me, how we met, a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about our history and all that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm trying to think. See, I think we
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  Speaker 2: first met. It was twenty seventeen, the run up to
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  Speaker 2: the tour, and.
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  Speaker 1: I the music tour.
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  Speaker 2: The music tour, right, I guess I should specify, right,
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  Speaker 2: And yes, that's right. My husband John and I when
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  Speaker 2: I helped out at some of the dates on that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, passing out miss bands and selling merch and
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  Speaker 2: crowd control and just all that, all that jazz, and
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  Speaker 2: so we kind of got to be friends, Matt and.
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  Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, we had. We had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: fun on that tour. It was fun, Yes, And you
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  Speaker 1: guys were really helpful and it was a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: And I cut it short. I missed my son so much.
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  Speaker 1: I cut it. I just after nineteen days, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm done with this. I don't want to do this anymore. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and we were doing great. We were like Elaine was
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  Speaker 1: booking shows like in the car as we were driving
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  Speaker 1: to the next city, and it's like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: South Carolina. I wants to now Texas and now this,
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  Speaker 1: and there's five places in Florida that want you to
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  Speaker 1: come down because we're everything was getting posted on social
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  Speaker 1: media in real time and people were seeing it's oh,
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  Speaker 1: come down here, come down here. So we're just getting
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  Speaker 1: all these bookings and I was just like, oh man,
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  Speaker 1: we could do this for a year.
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  Speaker 2: She she put that whole thing together on a shoe string,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't I don't know if I did it.
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  Speaker 2: Like that was an amazing effort, and I was. I
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  Speaker 2: was glad to be even just a small part of it.
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  Speaker 2: It was really fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was fun anyway. So first,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the fans want to know, Susanne, how you
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  Speaker 1: got the job of being my crack staff.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's really just being in the right
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  Speaker 2: place at the right time, and crack staff is some
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  Speaker 2: of a group effort, and it really I think it
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  Speaker 2: just came down to I just am a fan of
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  Speaker 2: the show. I love the show, and I also happen
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  Speaker 2: to have this incredibly analytical, detail oriented brain. And so
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  Speaker 2: at some point you've seen the show so many times
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  Speaker 2: that you stop watching the actors and you start watching
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  Speaker 2: what's happening behind them, and I just like, these little
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  Speaker 2: things would just pop out to me and I see
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  Speaker 2: patterns and you know, lines that get repeated over and over,
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  Speaker 2: and I just started seeing like these funny little things.
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  Speaker 2: And so there was I can't even remember really where
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  Speaker 2: it started, but it was some episode that you guys
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  Speaker 2: had done a recap for and I texted you and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, but did you see X y Z
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  Speaker 2: happening in the background? And you were like, oh my gosh, no,
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  Speaker 2: we didn't see that, and so you like went back
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  Speaker 2: and basically did a pickup for that. And I can't
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  Speaker 2: even remember now which which episode it was, but that
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  Speaker 2: was kind of how it all got started. And so
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  Speaker 2: then it just became kind of a habit every week
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  Speaker 2: that I would watch whatever the upcoming episode was, and
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  Speaker 2: if I saw, you know, something worthwhile, then I would
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  Speaker 2: just point it out. So that's that's right.
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  Speaker 1: And then you text me and say is this okay?
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  Speaker 1: I don't want you know, and I'm like, no, this
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  Speaker 1: is great. The fans love this. And so I talked
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  Speaker 1: to Amy Sugarman and said, let's make this a real thing.
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  Speaker 1: Let's make this a regular part of each episode. And
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  Speaker 1: she said, yeah, no, it's great. The fans eat it up.
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  Speaker 1: They love this stuff. And I dubbed you crackstaff because
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  Speaker 1: that's what you are, your crackstaff, crack crackerjack staff. Yeh,
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  Speaker 1: do you have any crackstaff info from Live and let diorama?
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  Speaker 2: You know? I this is so. I was bummed. I
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  Speaker 2: can't wait to hear what you guys say on the recap.
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  Speaker 1: I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was hoping I could join in on that a
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  Speaker 2: little bit because this is one of my favorite episodes
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  Speaker 2: of the entire series. I think it's hilarious. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: many funny lines, and I can't wait to hear how
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  Speaker 2: you guys rated it.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, okay, well, but.
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  Speaker 2: Really, I have noticed that as the series goes on,
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  Speaker 2: they kind of like they run a tighter ship each season,
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  Speaker 2: and so as the time goes on, it's harder to
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  Speaker 2: find those quirky little easter eggs.
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  Speaker 1: Oh really, really?
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  Speaker 2: The one thing that I that I did notice in
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  Speaker 2: this episode, and I don't know if you already talked
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  Speaker 2: about this in the recap, so you'll have to tell me.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not repeating anything. So, did you guys catch
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  Speaker 2: onto what music was playing? The first time Lane and
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  Speaker 2: Zach went into the music shop and Lane had the
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  Speaker 2: record Sophie's record. Did you hear what's playing in the background?
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  Speaker 1: I did, but I don't remember it. What was? What was?
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  Speaker 2: It was? It was Pleasant Valley Sunday by the Monkeys.
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  Speaker 2: That song was written by Carol King.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 2: And so I always I caught I'm a huge Monkeys fan,
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  Speaker 2: so I caught that the very first time I saw
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  Speaker 2: that episode, and so I've always thought that was kind
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  Speaker 2: of a fun little easter egg that they put in there.
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  Speaker 2: But other than that, I didn't I didn't find anything
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  Speaker 2: significant for Live and Let diorama.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, last train to Clarksville is to slam me when
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  Speaker 1: I was ten.
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  Speaker 2: You should add that into your set?
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  Speaker 1: What set the next time you go on tour? Oh
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  Speaker 1: oh right, which, gosh.
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  Speaker 2: We're all holding our breath for.
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  Speaker 1: That, you know. I found out that I was really
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  Speaker 1: just incredibly terrified of performing in front of people. It's
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  Speaker 1: just really scary, really oh god. Yeah, as an actor,
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  Speaker 1: I do not have that fear, but as a musician,
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  Speaker 1: it's just why it's scary to get out there. It's
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  Speaker 1: just like you're so naked.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and people are right there too, They're like.
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  Speaker 1: Right there, right there. And I you know, I can
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  Speaker 1: get by as a vocalist, but it's it's not my thing,
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  Speaker 1: it's not my jam. I work, you know how hard
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  Speaker 1: I worked on getting my voice in shape to do
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  Speaker 1: that tour and then especially when we played at X.
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  Speaker 1: Did you go down to uh Texas with us for
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  Speaker 1: the I'm sorry not ATX but for south By Southwest?
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  Speaker 1: Rachel raised a feedback part, Okay, So, I mean I
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  Speaker 1: really worked on my voice with a voice coach and
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  Speaker 1: really paid off and all that. But it was just like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for me to be passable and to be decent,
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  Speaker 1: to be okay, I have to work really hard at it.
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  Speaker 1: So I was never going to achieve, you know, any
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  Speaker 1: kind of greatness with the singing. So it just really
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  Speaker 1: terrified me. It really really terrified me, and I felt
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  Speaker 1: like I was kind of short changing people and I
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to, you know, I didn't want to put
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  Speaker 1: them through it. I feel much better because I mean,
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  Speaker 1: who wants to see an artist that's up there being
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  Speaker 1: uncomfortable right feeling like super confident? You know, it's better
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  Speaker 1: just to let other people do your stuff. And that's
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  Speaker 1: that's sort of the the arena that I'm entering now,
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  Speaker 1: is uh. But anyway, that's that's that's another story. So
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  Speaker 1: what do you love so besides the humor and live
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  Speaker 1: and let diorama, what did you love about it? Because
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  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, to tell you, we did
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  Speaker 1: not like it very much. Yeah, I mean, we loved
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  Speaker 1: parts of it, and we loved what it is and
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  Speaker 1: what it was when we watched it, and it's great
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  Speaker 1: stuff and great background, and it just feel good with
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  Speaker 1: your friends and you're watching this and you feel and
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  Speaker 1: I cuddled up with Nick and we watched it together,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, it's like, so what, it's not the
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  Speaker 1: greatest episode of the five seasons. It's like, it's still
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  Speaker 1: Gilmore girls, right, we get that sense of it. What
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  Speaker 1: did you love about it? What? Other than the funny lines?
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's I don't I really like the episodes
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  Speaker 2: that center on the town, Like the town is really
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  Speaker 2: like a character itself, and I just I just really
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  Speaker 2: enjoy those episodes where the focus is something is happening
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  Speaker 2: in the town, whether it's the firelight festival or you
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  Speaker 2: know that that hazy, crazy days of Summer insanity that
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  Speaker 2: Taylor put together. I just always enjoy those episodes. And
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  Speaker 2: there were a lot of like really good lines in
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  Speaker 2: this one, and I was thinking, because every time you
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  Speaker 2: guys do your favorite lines, I always like in my head,
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  Speaker 2: I have my own favorite lines, and this one I
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  Speaker 2: had like five different favorite lines. Like, I just think
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  Speaker 2: the writing in this one in particular was was good.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when when Lane wants to meet with Sophie
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  Speaker 2: and talk about her music career, and Sophie's like, Okay, well,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm not washing my hair and I'm not sick
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  Speaker 2: and my boyfriend doesn't want to do something else with me,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'll think about maybe meeting you for coffee
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  Speaker 2: for ten seconds. Like I just just wined like that.
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  Speaker 2: I think are funny. And I thought it was fun
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  Speaker 2: to see Luke kind of get involved in the town
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  Speaker 2: because he wanted to get you know, his claws into
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  Speaker 2: this house for Lorelei. But you could tell he was
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  Speaker 2: kind of enjoying it when Suki and and Lorelei were
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  Speaker 2: walking through and he's like he was all excited to
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  Speaker 2: point out the cannonball that had fallen through the floor,
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  Speaker 2: and he was, you know, excited about this portrait of
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  Speaker 2: this person that maybe had educated Ben Franklin's cousins. Like
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  Speaker 2: you could see he was like taking a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of pride in it, which was something different for Luke.
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  Speaker 2: So I I just I just enjoyed it. I thought
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  Speaker 2: it was a good episode. The part I did not
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  Speaker 2: enjoy was the whole Dean thing that really was unnecessary
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  Speaker 2: and kind of came out of nowhere. I don't understand
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  Speaker 2: why they brought Dean back.
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  Speaker 1: Was our favorite part of that was our favorite part
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  Speaker 1: of that.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't understand why they brought him back for that
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  Speaker 2: one random scene, and I didn't understand why he was
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  Speaker 2: so angry at Luke, like he I get that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Rory broke his heart or whatever, but I didn't understand
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  Speaker 2: why he was angry at Luke. So I just thought
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  Speaker 2: that was kind of weird and random.
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  Speaker 1: But I like the rest of the episode, And why
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  Speaker 1: was he angry at Luke? Did he ever reason?
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  Speaker 2: Your guess is and this was a lot episode that
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  Speaker 2: we got him in, so we never.
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  Speaker 1: We never seen him, haven't they always had? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: didn't they get into a physical confrontation outside the diner?
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  Speaker 2: They did when Luke. Yeah, Luke was mad at Dean
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  Speaker 2: the first time that they broke up, and he was
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  Speaker 2: still a teenager, and so Luke was trying to prevent
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  Speaker 2: him from going in the diner. But but Luke even said,
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  Speaker 2: like are you mad at me about the bop thing?
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  Speaker 2: Like okay, come punch me or whatever, and then Dean
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  Speaker 2: launches into his his odd tirade about they want more
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  Speaker 2: than this and you know you're all you are is
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  Speaker 2: the small town, which may have been true of Dean's
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  Speaker 2: situation with Rory. I think Rory definitely did want more
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  Speaker 2: than stars Hollow, but I don't think Laurel I did.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't understand why he was directing all that
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  Speaker 2: at Luke specifically. I never understood that anger, so I
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  Speaker 2: thought that was odd.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite Crackstaff fact that you have found?
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  Speaker 2: I do? And so this one was a visual thing,
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  Speaker 2: So it's gonna be hard to describe. But in the episode,
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  Speaker 2: and I can't off the top of my head, I
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  Speaker 2: can't remember the name of the episode, but it was
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  Speaker 2: the scene where Luke was telling Laurel I that he
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  Speaker 2: was not wearing his socks. Do you remember that scene?
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  Speaker 2: That was the episode where Luke found out that Nicole
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  Speaker 2: was having an affair and he beat up the guy's car,
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  Speaker 2: And there was a scene in the diner where Luke
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  Speaker 2: is being snippy with Loralai and she was like, what
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  Speaker 2: is wrong with you? What's going on? And that's when
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  Speaker 2: he like kind of leans in and he's like, I
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  Speaker 2: am not wearing my socks, So that would you see?
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  Speaker 2: And there's if you watch really closely, and it helps
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  Speaker 2: probably to be on a widescreen TV. There's a scene
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  Speaker 2: there like he's behind the counter and she's sitting at
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  Speaker 2: the counter and he walks around the end of the
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  Speaker 2: counter and when he walks around the end of the counter,
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  Speaker 2: there is some piece of metal I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: it was, and somebody had drawn a happy face on it,
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  Speaker 2: like with a marker, and you can see it very
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  Speaker 2: clearly as Luke walks past it. There's this weird metal
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  Speaker 2: object with a happy face drawn on it, and it's
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  Speaker 2: really bizarre and random. And I I had other things
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  Speaker 2: from that episode, and when you read through them, you
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  Speaker 2: read through it kind of quickly, and I don't know
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  Speaker 2: that it like really sunk into your head when you
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  Speaker 2: were listening to it, because you guys didn't have any
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  Speaker 2: kind of reaction to it. But to me, that's like
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  Speaker 2: that was the funniest thing because it's just kind of random,
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  Speaker 2: like some something that somebody had left there on the set,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know why they drew a happy face
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  Speaker 2: on it, but it just I just thought it was funny.
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  Speaker 2: So that's that's probably my favorite one. I think. The
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  Speaker 2: second one we.
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  Speaker 1: Know, that's probably the prop guys getting into the hooch
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  Speaker 1: again during lunchtime. There you go.
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  Speaker 2: And then my my my second favorite one I think
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  Speaker 2: was the scene where they they were they had put
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  Speaker 2: a stop light in right outside Luke's Diner and they
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  Speaker 2: were having the little ceremony to turn it on, and
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  Speaker 2: you can see the sound guy is kneeling on the ground,
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  Speaker 2: like you see, like his whole like upper half of
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  Speaker 2: his torso kneeling on the ground behind Lauren.
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  Speaker 1: So that was and that was outside the diner, right, Yes, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I remember that Dennis was on his Yeah, I remember.
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  Speaker 1: That was really funny.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I never understood how the camera guy didn't catch that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Dennis. We kidded Dennis the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the year about what an amazing actor was to blend
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  Speaker 1: in and not get called on it, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: they actually printed it. And really, how many times have
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  Speaker 1: you seen the Gilmore Girls series all the way.
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  Speaker 2: Through from start to finish? I don't even know. I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't even count from start to finish. Probably at least
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  Speaker 2: a couple dozen. I don't know. It's just it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of a it's a great background show. Like if I
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  Speaker 2: need some something to listen to in the background, I'll
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  Speaker 2: just put it onto whatever episode I left off on.
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  Speaker 2: And so probably a couple dozen times, some episodes more
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  Speaker 2: than others. But yeah, I've seen it a lot.
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  Speaker 1: So what is your absolute favorite episode?
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's hard, it's hard to pick just one.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think on most people's list is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be the you know, Liz's Wedding was a great episode. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: the test run at the Dragonfly was a good episode.
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  Speaker 2: The other one I really liked that probably doesn't make
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  Speaker 2: it undo a lot of people's list is the episode
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  Speaker 2: where they had the Harvard Yale football game. That was
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  Speaker 2: the episode Emily finds out about penal a lot and
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  Speaker 2: then she like takes out all this anger on Laura
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  Speaker 2: I and so Laurlai has the first Day with Jason.
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  Speaker 2: I just really enjoy that episode. I again, there's funny
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  Speaker 2: lines in there that just like one of the few
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  Speaker 2: like laugh out loud kind of episodes. So those are
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  Speaker 2: those are probably my top ones. And then the one
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  Speaker 2: we just talked about to the mister Twickham's house is good.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Who's your favorite Gilmore Girl's character?
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  Speaker 2: I would probably say Laurel. I She's not without her flaws,
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  Speaker 2: but I she's I think she's my favorite character. Number
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  Speaker 2: two is probably.
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  Speaker 1: Lane really mm hmmm, Lane, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I you know, I feel like Lane never really had
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  Speaker 2: the chance to do what she wanted to do. She
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  Speaker 2: went straight from missus Kim's house to you know, being
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  Speaker 2: a wife and a mother, and I'm not seeing that
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  Speaker 2: there's anything wrong with those things. I am both of
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  Speaker 2: those things myself, but it wasn't a choice that she made.
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  Speaker 2: And I always wanted kind of her rock and roll
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  Speaker 2: dreams to come true. And so I think, you know,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: when we see her in the revival, and I'm not
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: gonna get to spoilery here, but you know, when she
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: we see her in the revival, she seems settled and happy,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: and I think that's great, and so I'm glad that,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: you know, she didn't have some horrible outcome, but I
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: still would have liked to have seen her get a
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: chance to do what she wanted to do before she
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: had to take on all these other responsibilities.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Did you not care for Rory?
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I am. I am not a Rory fan. I will
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: say that I really loved Rory during the Chiltern years.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I liked her drive and how she you know, she
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: kind of you know, Paris gave her that story about
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: the repaving the parking lot, and she just she took
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: it and ran with it and just knocked it out
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: of the park. But then once she got to Yale,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know, she just her personality changed. I think
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: she started to really buy into that whole Richard and
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Emily and Logan lifestyle about you know, I am rich
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: and I'm mc gilmore and I get to do what
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I want and I get to have what I want,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: and I don't know, the character just kind of fell
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: flat for me at that point. She seemed a little entitled,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: a little annoying. So I did like Rory the first
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: couple of season, but then I kind of didn't like
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: her after that.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Are are you a Logan fan or no.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I am not a Logan fan, so in that respect,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I am a Rory fan because I think Rory needs
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: to be alone for a while and figure her, you
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: know what out. I think all three of her boyfriends
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: had a function that they served at the time that
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: they were with her. I think all three of them
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: had good some good qualities at different points. But I
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: don't think any of them are really her soulmate. I
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: don't think any of them are really her endgame. Logan specifically,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: he's just he's so so smooth and so slick that
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: he comes off to me like fake, and I just
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: he just doesn't seem genuine to me, and so I'm
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: just not I mean, he does, he does some nice things,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: but I'm just not a long term Logan fan.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: What about Jess and you like those guys?
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: I think I think Dean was a little immature. I
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: didn't the whole cheating thing was obviously a problem. I mean,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: he he sought Rory out that night intending to do that,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: and I so know Dean is Deana is a non starter.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I think he was, you know, good for a while.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: As the first boyfriend. He seemed to genuinely you know,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: love Rory, but he's a little, a little possessive. And
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: then Jess, I don't know, Jess actually turned out okay,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: and I don't Again, I don't want to, like say, spoilers,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: so I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get too far
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: into that. But I did like Jess at the end,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: but again not in not in terms of a relationship
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: for Rory.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Any character characters that you just absolutely despised.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I can't stand and and now I always want I
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: always make the distinction because it bothers me when people
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: don't make the distinction between the character and the actor.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: So Kelly Bishop is completely amazing and she just played
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: the crap out of that role and she was so
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: good and so amazing. But Emily Gilmore is a crappy
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: human being and she's she's just mean and nasty, and
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I just don't here's her at all.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, as long as we're on the subject,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: you what did you think of Luke?
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I love Luke now again, Like Laurela, I Luke does not.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: He's not without his problems. He's got some issues and
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: he is badly in need of some therapy. But I
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: really liked the Luke character, and originally one of the
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: things that attracted me to the in general is the
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: relationship between Luke and Larel And even when they weren't together.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Before they got together, you could tell that there is
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: a like, there's just a connection there, and there's just
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: there's just a good relationship there that's based on friendship first,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: and that really appealed to me. So Luke in a
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: in some ways reminds me of my own husband. He's
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: endlessly loyal, and he, you know, is devoted to our
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: relationship and and and to to our family, and he
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: cares about his broader family and his you know, the
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: community like he just he's just a good person. So
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I think aside from you know, Luke's kind of anger
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: management issues and the whole well, I'm not even going
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: to talk about this thing that's coming up that you
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: haven't seen yet that was a problem. But but Luke,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Luke is foundationally, he's a good person.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Your favorite boyfriend for Rory would be Jess, I take it.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's any of them. I think she
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: needs to find someone new. He needs to stop cycling
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: through the same three people and find someone new.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha. Uh so who do you think she should
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: end up with? What type of guy? How about how
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: about Marty? Okay, so again solid stable guy.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I did like Marty the first the first time we
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: saw him, before she got involved with Logan. I did
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: like Marty. He there's some problems with him later though,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: but I don't.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, well yeah, but I think.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: In general, like, you know, just a normal guy, like
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: somebody who's smart and can be on her intellectual level
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: but not all arrogant and crazy.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: But that's Marty. Marty's that guy that she should marry.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I've seen this a dozen times before, where you know,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: somebody wants Marlon Brando and goes after the wrong guy
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: because they're exciting on what you know, on whatever level
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: you care to entertain that on. But uh, and then
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: there's the guy that is their friend and really loves
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: them for who they are and sees who they are
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and would be there, but they just that person just
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: does not want to be worshiped or put on a pedestal,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: and it's uncomfortable for them. They'd rather be, you know,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: have a different type of experience. But for me, it's Marty.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: He's the guy. But how are you going to write that?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: You know, is that going to be full of conflict?
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: And well, I mean it could be, right, but I
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: just thought they should have given Marty some kind of
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: a chance.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that could have been That could have
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: been an interesting relation.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I agree. I think she could have really answered some
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: questions about herself, whether the relationship lived very long at
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: all or not. She could have just discovered more about
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: herself and through a relationship like that, does it feel
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: forced to you?
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I have some opinions on this go ahead. So I
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: feel like Zach was a convenience because if you remember
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: back to where we first met him, he was hitting
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: a Lorele.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: And he.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Was he was portrayed at the beginning to be kind
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: of a slimeball kind of character, right, he was hitting
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: on LORELEI he he has a problem with everything. He's
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: very whiny, he complains about everything. He doesn't like the
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: way that Brian breathes.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: And well, I mean I agree with him there. I
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have to.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Say when David Goolski went to college because Adam Brodie
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: left the show, then all of a sudden he turns
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: into this great guy. And Lane's in love with him,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: and I'm like that that kind of took a turn, like, I.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Don't what happened. That's a quick makeover that nobody told
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: me about, right exactly.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: It was like it was almost like the writers were like, oh, crap,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: we lost Adam Brody. Now we gotta give Lane a
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: love interest. Let's just, you know, pick a random, unattached guy.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: And I kind of wish that they had brought in another,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: like introduced a new character to be Lane's love interest.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I think it did turn out okay, you know, he
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: he They turned him into a good guy and he
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: cared about Lane, but it just was really abrupt. I
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: just it just kind of felt lazy to me, like,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: like you said, it felt forced. It was like, here,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: let's just put the two of them together, because.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: We don't know what else to do with this, not
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: knowing the realities behind the scene of budget and maybe
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: they couldn't afford a new guy or the guy they wanted.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: It was too expensively, it wasn't available, kept falling through,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: they kept offering it to people and just never worked out,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: so they had to do something. Yeah, maybe maybe that
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: was a scenario. I don't know, but yeah, I agree
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: with you. Here's a question for you. Do you think
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Luke and Laurel I were meant to be together?
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Yes? To me, there it was very clear that they
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: belonged together. I know some people don't feel that way,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: and that's fine, but I think they did. You know,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Like I said, they needed some work, they needed to
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: work on their communication for sure, but I think in
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: the long run, they were always meant to be together.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm hmm. Yeah. I watched these episodes and it's
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: just such magic between the two of us. I just
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: really miss it, you know, It's just it was just
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: terrific stuff. What is your favorite era of Gilmour Girls?
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: It was your favorite seasons?
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: So I like season four and five and if I
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: could like kind of create my own season, Like middle
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: of season four to middle of season five are like
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: my favorite span of episodes, kind of the run up
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: to when Luke and Laurel I get together and then
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: you know, the early part of their relationship. That's that's
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: my favorite. That's my favorite season. In air quotes, I mean,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I like all of it. I watch I watch all
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: of it, but that's my favorite part.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Right. Here's the question for you. Why you know I
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: do a lot of these comic cons. In fact, I'm
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: going to be in Indianapolis August twenty five through twenty seven.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I mean Indianapolis Comic Con, Indicom Popcorn, and the Gilmore
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Girl fans show up in big numbers, and the fans
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: are getting younger and younger and younger every time I
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: do a con, to the point where I'm shocked. They'll
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: be a seven year old girl. There'll be a five
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: year old girl dressed as Luke. Their parents, young parents,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: sometimes people so young that they weren't born yet when
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: the show debuted, and they have children, and you know,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: they're twenty one years old, and they are obsessed with
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: the show, and their children are obsessed with the show,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: and they're little, tiny kids and they know about the show.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: And why do you think that this show has apparently
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: tapped into you know, the generation after generation after generation.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Why is this happening? Because it doesn't seem like it's
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: going to end. It just keeps going and going and going,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: which is wonderful.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I think it's just a timeless story. I think it's
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: it's comfort food for your brain basically, and it's just
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: it's a way to escape the craziness of our current
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: existence and the mother daughter granddaughter relationship. We can all
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: relate to that, like all of us to some extent,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: have you know, at least some kind of Maybe it's
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: you know, not necessarily with your actual mother, maybe it's
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: you know, just a good friend or whatever. But I
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: think we all kind of tap into that, and I
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: think it's very comforting, and it's I didn't watch the
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: show when it first aired. I was busy having my
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: own babies and raising them, so I came into it later.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: But you know, it just really spans the generations. The
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: women that were you know, middle aged in two thousand
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: are now the grandmothers, and you know, they watched it
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: with their daughters, and so their daughters who were teenagers
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: back then, now you know they're in their thirties or what,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: and they're watching it with their own kids. Like it
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: just it just keeps going, and I think it's just
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: every it's just a comfort thing, like it takes you
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: back to a time when you know, maybe your life
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: was better, or maybe it makes you realize, okay, well
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: maybe my mom wasn't so bad. When they see how
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Emily treats floor alive, you know, they they remember, gosh,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I remember I really liked Rory, you know, back then,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: and I really related to her. Like I think, everybody
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: just taps into something different, and it's so multi generational
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: and and I think, kind of veering off the topic
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: a little bit, the pop culture references kind of tap
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: into that too, like the they make references to you know,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: movies and things that were from the twenties and then
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: things that also happened currently. So there's like something in
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: there for everybody. There's you know, the older generation could
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: relate to things and you know West Side Story or
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: you know, then then common it's about like the Olsen
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Twins or you know whatever. Like there's just something in
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: there for every.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Age range, right right, So listen, So your better half
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: John is camping with your boy right now, and he
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: couldn't be here today, but he's partly he's a big
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: part of crackstaff, John French, So I just want to
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: give a shout out to him. Elaine Espinoza, who is
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: kind of the head of my team, and she's on
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a hiatus back in the East
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Coast taking care of some folks who need her help.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: And and so anyway, I appreciate everything you guys have done,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: and thank you so very much for all the hard work.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: And you've really made this podcast that much more interesting
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: for people.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Oh well, I appreciate that. I hope that people are
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: enjoying it.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Well, we may be calling you again.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm around you know where to find me.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Anyway. That's going to wrap it up. Thank you so much, Susanne.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: We will see you soon. We'll talk to you soon.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Best to John, best to your boy and all the best,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: and we'll talk soon.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, great, Thanks Scott, take care all.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Right, Susan, all right, take care.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, bye bye bye
• 34:53
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