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Interview: Ryan Wing – The October Ghost vs. The League of Horror · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  Luke and I are here today joined by Ryan Wing creator of the October ghost versus
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  the league of horror which is a graphic novel currently on Kickstarter is that
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  correct that is correct what can you tell us about the October
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  ghost plenty I've been working with the character for a several years the
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  October ghost is a my sort of homage to pulp uh action heroes combined with a
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  bit of Silver age wackiness I love uh characters like the Shadow the phantom
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  for that era but I also love bizarre antics like the flash would do he'd be
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  running around normal day and then next you know of course there are aliens and
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  robots and you know monsters that's just what you're G to have yeah right so so I
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  came up with the character years back sort of counterintuitive to everything
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  going really dark and gritty I like kind of whimsical to satire yeah right sort
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  of Flavor of the tick tied to it and so but was it now six years ago I think
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  yeah yeah 2010 I did my first initial little serial strip with the October
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  ghost and and I've been doing small you know one page to eight page stories in
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  different periodicals I've done and hitting the point where I just wanted to
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  do a full-on graphic novel with the character and get a full story build out
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  the rest of the world yeah awesome so you've I've seen uh you've got uh so
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  it's kind of more um short form stuff you've done with him in the past is that
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  right like correct that is correct yeah so the it's up on your website
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  unexpected press.com you've got um yep a bunch of the stuff all the pages I've
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  done are are sit up there if anyone wants to go take a look every page I've
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  put out so far is is right on the site yeah they're really what you said like
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  it REM sort of influence from Phantom when I was looking at what you've got up
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  there that's what I sort of had in my head it reminds me so much of the
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  Phantom which is just awesome cuz I remember getting the news paper all the
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  time yeah and you see that bits and pieces and I don't know why so it's good
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  that that's actually isy influence because that's what I get out of it
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  perfect I'm lining things up right then that's good to hear I say I'm also by
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  the old you know Saturday morning Cal strips and everything as well so between
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  the old movie Cals the cial strips kind of broken apart storytelling it's just
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  enjoyable that it can jump from one thing to another without needing to
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  really make sense and just embracing that yeah yeah yeah there was actually
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  the the little story arc in there about
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  um uh Bible Belt and and eson to yes
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  really clever CU it's clever I liked it because there's a bit more going on to
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  it than like it is like you know fun and Whimsical and stuff like that but it's
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  also I don't know like's a bit more to it than that I liked it cheers yeah my
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  friend Seth desan wrote that piece we've been collaborating for a while and he
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  wanted to take his get his hands on the character and I said all right let's do
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  it and he he knows the tone that I'm going for and I think he nailed it out
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  of the park with that one yeah it's really cool the league of horror I mean
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  I don't even want to give away any spoilers or anything like that but uh uh
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  it's a good time of year to be launching that kind of story um precisely with the
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  name October ghost I think I had to pick this month to launch things with a
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  horror it just need to happen I you know in April or May it just seems awkward at
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  that point for sure what first Drew you to to Comics like to to the format I
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  guess like sure sure um again the intro was off of uh strip comics on the
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  weekends you know you get the paper coming in through then I grew up in the
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  80s where we were marketed everything so GI Joe Spider-Man every every licensed
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  character had a cartoon and then you know first time I go to the drugstore
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  I'm like well look at that there's a a whole r of him here MH and started
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  picking him up at that point and and Diving headlong into him and it wasn't
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  long before I you know found neighbors homes and flea markets where they had
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  you know cheap torn-off cover bins of uh you know tales of the unexpected uh old
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  creepy and Eerie books out there that really drew me and I've been a big
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  monster fan for a long time cool even before that I had a lot of classic
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  Illustrated books where i' have like Po and Dracula so in my mind learning how
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  to read and having the images there were just just part of my development and
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  you're in a good setting up there in in Maine for this kind of story too it ties
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  up well you know sharing the homestead of Stephen King you know he grew pretty
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  much uh within 20 minutes of where he grew up it's a it's it's a kind of a
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  beautiful place especially this time of year to tap into that feeling which I'm
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  heavily emulating in the comic especially with the color palette if
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  you've been following the kickstarter at all just working the very ainal oranges
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  and reds and and some pops of white that's awesome yeah we were up we
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  actually went up because obviously I'm from Australia but uh I've always wanted
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  to go to main so we drove up the other week and yeah it's really beautiful
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  there oh nice yeah nice did you head all the way up through Northern main or just
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  kind of stay the Portland uh cuz um I I'd love to like I want to see
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  everything so we will but uh yeah but no it is really beautiful up there like
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  completely different to you know the kind of uh you know Australia completely
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  different so well you got some good things going on too I'd love to do trip
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  out to Australia sometime you should there's nothing
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  between point a and point B you know you know who want to go see seen at camera come
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  on oh that's Luke's Hometown yeah that's where I am right now
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  there's excellent yeah it's quiet and peaceful and that's how he likes it I
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  love it I love it there are no people anywhere it's
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  great cheers to that then so how long's the kickstarter been running now um it's
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  only been going for since last Thursday and we got up to uh 83% or maybe %
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  funded right off the bat I have a incredible incredible following of uh
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  fans and friends from over the years I've gathered so wonderful start right
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  off the bat and again this is my first Kickstarter so I've been reaching out to
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  different friends like uh Joe shaly Ben Bishop and a few others to see what what
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  do I got to do what I look for what are trip hazards that no one tells you about
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  yeah right yeah and so I've a lot of good information about that one fun one
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  I learned about is um hype ticket items I guess you could say for for Awards
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  watch out for those like they're good to have because you can earn some you know
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  sponsorship that way but those are also the first to have someone back out of oh
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  right of course someone's like yes I love your project then you know rent
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  comes around they're like ah not not not this time around kick start is rough
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  like it is it is it's a there's a lot of psychology behind it and you get flooded
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  the first time you launch with marketing campaign people
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  yeah the whole funding like they'll spor you and it's like buying a loan from
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  them to jack up your your site to make it look like you're doing well and it's
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  it's uh pretty disingenuine in my opinion so I prefer I'd rather fail uh
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  with people I know then go that route yeah then have fake numbers on there
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  yeah precisely well you probably just got another email because your num just
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  SP up one more
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  excellent I just backed it uh cheers man I'm addicted to Kickstarter it's a
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  problem I have but I think it's worth it I'm right with you actually I stopped
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  buying regular monthly Comics I mean for being comic for a long time about wow
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  pushing almost two years now and I've been only going directly through whether
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  shows or Kickstarter because I love the individual's voices coming through on
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  these projects versus you know major corporations you know your DC or Marvels
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  and stuff I've kind of faded out of as more Dark Horse and IDW and they still
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  put out great books but seeing all the unique uh perspectives the packaging the
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  art that's coming out through Kickstarter there's so much more energy
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  there yeah yeah sometimes you just need that fresh look not that mainstream
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  approach just something different which just stands out yep precisely yeah like
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  there's a lot of really creative cool stuff it's it's rough but it's also like
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  incredible people can actually support you in doing what you want rather than
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  having whether it's keeping it safe or keeping it commercial or whatever it is
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  that the big companies want to do you don't have to do any of that it's great
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  exactly and I've been doing self-publishing for for years um a
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  couple friends and I had this one company called uh apnp Comics which is Amalgamated
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  publishing in Pharmaceuticals just for kind of a quirky kind of spin on it and
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  yeah we were just putting out our own books we started out by doing Zen
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  formats and then we said you know we could probably find someone just to
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  publish it just to print it and then we reached out to a couple companies and
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  started printing them and it's so easy now to make your own comic right
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  compared to early on even in the 90s when uh digital stuff was just starting
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  to to kick off it was imposs you had to go find a printer and the costs were
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  insane so you had to kind of rely on putting out to a publisher but at this
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  point just go directly to a printer anywhere in the world get your stuff
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  your files ready and then they send it right off to you and it looks great yeah
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  yeah because and you've got things like comicy and uh and I mean even just you
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  know there's a million comic book readers for like iPad and Android and
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  like kind of stuff yeah like yeah so the the access to the stories is is
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  ridiculously easy so I'm kind of curious on how comic shops can keep keep going I
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  think they're they're writing the coiles right now of licensed properties in
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  movies yeah yeah that's kind of their lifeblood so I'm kind of nervous I want
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  to see more of a crossover with like an actual bookstore yeah I read a an
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  interesting post on Reddit by a guy who apparently like he wouldn't give his
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  name or anything obviously but he said he worked for DC because if someone was
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  like why did I keep rebooting like everything why is everything issue one
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  why you everything always restarting and he said well they got to now like
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  there's no way to you know like No One's Gonna join or jump onto the story at
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  issue 300 and something so and but they got all these films coming out and so
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  they're like oh man we got to start at number one again so that like all the
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  yeah people could jump on I mean every industry I guess is changing but it's
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  very very apparent in the comic industry where like you said like a new movie
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  comes out then all right here's the new number one of an issue and make sure the
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  character looks like the actor yeah that yeah like I mean they've Rebo like
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  Harley Quinn few years ago got rebooted and reboting it again I know I mean and
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  it makes sense CU they want it to look like MAA Robby now but y you you got to
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  sell the T-shirt so I mean it has to all line up
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  y so you got some cool rewards going on here on the kickstarter to you want to
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  run through those for our listeners they can hear what they what they can pick up
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  I have a few of them out and about again I Tred to keep it pretty simple and
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  streamline versus going too big with a lot of rewards since my first time out
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  making sure I can manage anything that comes through so your basic uh digital
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  download your your PDF and cbz file is H your inro reward then after that you
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  work up through to the uh 96 page book that I'm putting together of the October
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  GES versus the the league of horror and then from there on out it starts
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  stepping up through to going to a unique print that I'll have out for this
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  Kickstarter um a one-off t-shirt that I'm making for Kickstarter only I also
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  Sil screen my own shirts at home so sell show so you know bust out my own designs
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  currently down in my basement studio right now and that's you can see all my
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  print making stuff set up so that's super unique yeah it's doing a lot of a
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  DIY approach um it's pretty big um if you're over here in Portland the Indie
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  art scene is pretty massive so it's easy to access any materials you need so cool
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  and and I appreciate that approach so I run with those then one new piece I'm
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  doing is usually I don't sell off comic pages but for this book I'm GNA I have
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  the list of you know get the book and also get a page of Art from the book in
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  Order of you know whoever bids first you know gets first pick after I finish
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  everything I'll end up sending out a PDF and they can choose which page they want
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  and I'll sign it on and original yep the original artwork wow and I work and I
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  work for um for paper and pencil and ink right at the work desk I end up doing
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  colors digitally yeah but everything else I do I do right by hand okay I was
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  gonna ask that so you don't do any digital stuff well I mean it becomes
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  digital at some point yep yep scan in and I do color at that point but uh all
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  the rest of it's the traditional approach even lettering I do I am
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  working by hand one of my good friends Rick Parker who did lettering for comics
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  for ages at Marvel one day I said all right I need to learn how to do this and
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  he sent me endless information on how to start learning how to use an AMS guide
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  rulers how to file down your your quill nib to do inking on the letters oh wow
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  it's a it's sort of a neat tradition that I would like to learn how to do and
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  it has a a fun feel to it as well where you can tell that it's the person's
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  Personalities in the letters yeah so I'm working on still honing it now make it
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  more legible as I keep working along but it's it's going great that's awesome
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  like again uh kind of unique those those are the basic rewards we have in place I
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  did end up putting up the other day uh my wife makes this sweet little crossstitch October
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  ghost out so we said all right we'll do a few of those as well because those end
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  up selling decent at shows too so put those together and then also added a a
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  bundle pack of books just saying hey you know what I've got piles of my older
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  issues all together there so group those up and one of them does have the like Z
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  first appearance of October ghost in it which I think I only have two copies of
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  I know of around so I said you know what that'd be fun to put out too so that's
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  one of my the higher end ones but the rest is all manageable the commission
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  tier doing great cool it's it's a wonderful first experience I got to say
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  for for Kickstarter for me I think it's having the foundation of lots of
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  questions asked yeah other people who've done it really helped really really
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  helped have you got any shows or anything coming up like uh appearances
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  um actually um not sure when this stes but this coming weekend the 28th 29th up
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  in Bangor main is the Bangor horror festival oh yeah oh cool right incred
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  Tony Todd's gonna be there um is it who else G be the car from Christine and
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  most of the cast is going to be there oh my God it's a sweet sweet show um and
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  it's uh it's the second year in a row it's been going and they really ramped
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  it for this year and or I wasn't sure I was going to make it but uh things
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  worked out so with first night's a a drink and draw on Friday night and then
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  a full day of just awesome horror and comics in the center in the town of
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  Stephen King so you can't ask for much more than that this time of year get all
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  the cool stuff I have to see if I can drive back up I didn't know I didn't
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  know about that that's awesome oh yeah yeah yeah definitely check out the site
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  um I'll shoot some links on my site too Chris McMillan this guy runs a show
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  trust him completely I've been some shows where it's been kind of shady his
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  heart and energies are all focused on every show he does and really tries to
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  make it work for anyone who attends it's incredible show awesome that sounds
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  really so I'll be there uh pushing my Wares really pumping the kickstarter
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  probably doing a lot of commissions is a big Focus I'll be there all day on
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  Saturday and then um then back back to the Grind after
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  that what do you guys get into what's your what's your big thing right now see
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  my big thing right now is all my stuff's arriving
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  um so uh yeah I haven't had a lot of free
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  time yeah precisely again with my one-month old it's uh I'm working in
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  unique hours where I'll um be up at you know 2 in the morning 3 in the morning
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  uh finally get him back to bed after a bit work for an hour hour and a half on
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  the project and yeah wow then my four and a halfy old gets up get him to
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  school and I've come with a lot of really great creative ways to work on on
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  this project so one day I have a full day to do something it'll blow my mind
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  I'll get so much done it'll be amazing or you end up getting nothing done
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  because you've got so much time you just put it off for that couple of minutes
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  and turns into hours I do it now when I can procrastinate to do it later it'll be
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  amazing y but again getting very excited again for the Halloween season um you
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  guys have any classic go-to horror movies you jump into this time of year
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  well we just did uh we my my wife and I do a podcast called necronom when we
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  talk about uh horror movies we just did pumpkin head because we wanted to talk
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  about um cuz so much Tradition at Halloween like I I mean it's such an
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  underrated film I mean in the in the horror Community like I mean you can
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  recognize it but it's a great film yeah it's got I mean if anything come on yeah
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  I think the weakest parts of it are the horror Parts but it's got all this other
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  stuff going on that makes it really interesting I think it has that folksy
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  mythology tied to it all that's just brilliant exactly yeah and because we
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  were talking about I mean Halloween here compared to Australia uh in the last I
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  don't know like 5 years people kind of do Halloween in Australia and you can
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  you can kind of find pumpkins to carve but you got to get in quick there's like
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  10 of them at the grocery store and then they're gone and then they they they rot
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  almost instantly because it's the time so it's it's not the same and this is my
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  first one here and already I mean it's it's what like it's kind of late October
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  now but but it's just it's way cooler like it's it's just way more of a thing
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  here obviously oh yeah like it's a super cool time of year I'm pretty excited for
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  for actual Halloween you know like the 31st yeah it's always fun to go through
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  the uh the catalog of what what movies you haven't seen for a while and I grew
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  up on you know Saturday afternoon and late night movies of Universal horror and Hammer
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  stuff my goto Creature from the Black Lagoon um one of the best makeups ever
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  is yeah I don't know why we watched it like fairly recently and uh it's I mean
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  I think it holds up I'm I'm I'd be interested to to show it to someone
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  who's never seen it before to see what they think cuz I'm I'm I'm kind of
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  biased with a lot of those things I think a lot of those movies hold up when
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  maybe they don't I don't know yeah precisely I'm the same way too like the
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  the enjoyment of a kid I remember the first time I saw the creature of the
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  Black Lagoon was on like you know a standard CBS channel on Saturday
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  afternoon and they were like Leonard Molton introduced it and they were
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  talking about how it was recorded in 3D and he said all right everyone get you
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  know behind your aquarium to watch this movie I assisted my grandmother got like
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  several glasses and filled them with water to put in front of me so I watched
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  most of it through those glasses that's awesome yeah I bought in quick they
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  didn't have to do much to to capture my attention yeah oh they did a lot of
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  crazy stuff oh yeah with the horror movies in the old days like the Shocker
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  where they had the Shocker with Vincent Price with the they had they Zapped The
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  Tingler oh The Tingler was it The Tingler yeah yeah they Zapped people in
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  the chairs I know and uh yeah and then
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  uh house Hill they had like the skeletons and skeleton drop down through
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  yeah brilliant stuff I love those theatrics I me William Castle he he own
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  those I he how to make a show not always was a great movie but a really good show
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  yeah right I wish they still did stuff like that yeah I'm curious I've heard a
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  couple things where they're talking about doing the more immersive type of
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  movies you know like you go to like Universal Studios and you do the rides
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  where you pretty much sit there and you get shifted and thrown around and air is
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  blown on you and everything yeah um just to get people going back the theater 3DS
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  kind made it comeback again too but I think they need one more one more piece
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  to kind of Pull It in smell Vision
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  smell smell let it all see through the vents and actually I heard that from the
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  Universal Studios um horror horror
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  nights they did the was the Halloween 2 that they did was it this year or was it
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  I think it's this year where they did that it's the immersive maze you go
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  through you get to see Michael Myers R round as the
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  hospital oh yeah you're walking through the giant skull car pumpkin at the
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  beginning and they pump in pumpkin smell through the whole thing so sense has
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  become a big piece of that huh that's really cool actually which just sounds
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  amazing like I love to walk the giant skull pumpkin with with the smell of it
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  SC through that but that's I'd love to see theaters you know of course it be
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  like one per state would ever have something like that but it would be be
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  fun to see that's it I'm I'm coming to America next Halloween you should man
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  you got I mean seriously we're going to um the Bangor Fest it'll be great we're
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  going to Six Flags this weekend I think uh because they have like a a Halloween
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  th event there's there's some in if you go up to uh the go Coast Luke uh to like
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  Movie World in the go it's kind of like I guess the Australian equivalent of Six
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  Flags it's Warner Brothers and they do uh and in the last over the last few
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  years they do Fright Nights which is like uh I guess you guys like here they
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  they have them every year you know the mazes and stuff that they do at
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  Halloween like the the kind of haunted house mazes we don't really have them
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  here yet no they're slowly starting to take off in Australia but yeah but if
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  you head up to uh up to Movie World cuz Halloween's not that big here no people
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  try to bring it in every now and again and it just it just flounders when I was
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  a kid when I was a kid I I loved the idea of it because we would see it on TV
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  right uh cuz we're exposed to you know all the same films and everything things
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  everything else and I was like man Halloween looks awesome and then so I
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  would dress up and I'd go door to door cuz I I grew up in a little town in
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  Western Sydney a little town it's not a little town anymore it was when I was a
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  kid people who live in penth are like little town I'm like no it was when I
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  was a kid um and yeah we would go knocking door to door and and then
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  people would be like um that's an American tradition go away and yeah like
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  brutal ouch yeah no no candy no candy would it even hum you would or it's just
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  no go away yeah no no child be
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  gone and and your costume sucks well
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  that's true it did suck one year it was a paper bag with the word robot written
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  on the front pathetic no I went as I I remember I went as the Terminator one
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  year I just like put on some sunglasses sunglasses I'm the
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  Terminator give me candy yeah but I mean I knew that it
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  wasn't worth going to too much effort it wasn't be appreciated but no it's it's
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  more and more uh you know from what I've from what I've seen over the last few
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  years like I said I'm not a kid anymore but I mean kids trick- or treat over
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  there now and um people try and get into it but again a lot of the stuff that's
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  that's kind of uh iconic doesn't really work in Australia because it's it's not
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  cold and it's uh yeah it's completely different climate and you can't get
• 22:25
  pumpkins carving pumpkins exactly so so why bother have it just cancel
• 22:30
  it what are you watching this Halloween Luke I haven't actually thought about it
• 22:36
  here's your chance y um see I might actually go back and
• 22:41
  watch Evil Dead oh yeah i' be watching Ash versus evil dead that's so good
• 22:46
  actually go lot ofun I don't know if I should try and show my wife it though
• 22:50
  she doesn't do well with horror i' my one experience watching a horror film
• 22:55
  with her leads me to believe you should not show her as is Evil
• 23:01
  Dead one of my first dates with my my wife was to see 30 Days of Night in the
• 23:06
  theater oh wow I did I didn't know she was terrified of horror movies right
• 23:12
  because I know I grew up I remember like age five watching The Exorcist and
• 23:15
  everything I just I grew up watching you know back toback the shining then Pete's
• 23:19
  Dragon oh yeah without without skipping a beat you know yeah that's so the first
• 23:23
  day yeah so the first day we go to one of the first days we go to a see 30 Days
• 23:27
  of Night you know I'm like a sweet Nile's temples Smith up on screen
• 23:31
  brilliant watching it about halfway through the movie she goes I I have to
• 23:35
  go home and walk my dog so kind of that point I said Okay I
• 23:41
  I I I see where the gauge is here yeah dial it back understand yeah and and
• 23:46
  those vampires in 30 Days of Night are wonderful I mean they're pretty much
• 23:49
  just human sharks yeah yeah know I like that about it it had a different style
• 23:54
  they're like but they yeah they they're very um intense like
• 23:59
  that the movie I think uh is I guess underrated I like it the movie I enjoy
• 24:05
  it I do it's it's it's not as I think the ending kind of kind of wobbles but
• 24:09
  the rest of it is is very tight yeah like visually there's some like awesome
• 24:12
  stuff like the the shots you know over the over the village or the town kind of
• 24:16
  thing that sequence with the vampires like killing everyone yeah it's got some
• 24:20
  cool stuff in it definitely so you had the same kind of childhood upbringing
• 24:23
  where I remember renting on laser disc you know I'd get um search for spot and
• 24:28
  then Halloween 2 yeah right and that's kind of how it went or yeah Place
• 24:34
  amville horror coupled with Willie Wonka
• 24:38
  yeah Labyrinth was a go-to for me um
• 24:42
  plus Evil Dead and uh I actually when I where I grew up I had a good friend up
• 24:48
  the road obviously uh and you know as you do when you're a kid your friends
• 24:51
  all live in your neighborhood and um exactly get you on your bike you're yeah
• 24:56
  and so I took uh my copy of Labyrinth that ID rented um on VHS and then a copy
• 25:02
  of Evil Dead that I rented on on VHS left them up there by mistake and his
• 25:07
  younger brother ended up watch like putting Evil Dead
• 25:10
  on and his mother walked in and uh so the next time I came around she said do
• 25:17
  not bring around any videos ever
• 25:21
  again I was like oh all right then fine fine
• 25:27
  banned but yeah Evil Dead is one of my favorites actually that's why I'm glad
• 25:31
  Ash versus evil dead is is happening and it is so good although man this season
• 25:36
  it's gotten crazy I can't believe they're yeah well I say allowed but I'm
• 25:40
  yeah been given the money to make this show yeah I was curious if they'd make
• 25:43
  it to a the second season because you know how these shows go if they do it
• 25:46
  really right then someone has to step in and try to make it better in quotation
• 25:51
  marks and usually messes it up so yeah it's it's brilliant it seemed like the
• 25:56
  the way they ended season one was kind of like uh we might get canceled we
• 25:59
  don't know if we're getting any more money for this yeah one foot out the
• 26:03
  door just in case you yeah yeah kind of like because then you I mean one of my
• 26:07
  favorite shows of all time that ended in my opinion poorly was um Carnaval have
• 26:13
  you ever seen that I was gonna say yes I'm right with you that was that was
• 26:18
  painful yeah and not only that because apparently they they shot oh no they
• 26:23
  scripted uh an ending that would be an ending and then you know so they got
• 26:28
  cancel they could shoot that and then it would be like all right it's finished
• 26:31
  but then they would told no no no it's fine you know picked up for another
• 26:34
  season shot this ending and then it was like nah actually you are cancelled it's
• 26:39
  the worst when that happens and so but oh God that show is so good and then but
• 26:44
  yes apparently he wrote six uh outlines for six novels uh really yeah the the
• 26:50
  guy continuing on the story yeah but uh
• 26:54
  you know the rights are with uh HBO HBO yeah and so apparently he can't do
• 27:00
  anything with it right now come on I do anything just let it go
• 27:06
  Kickstarter exactly yeah interesting time for
• 27:12
  television as well with HBO and westwell westwell is really good too yeah no I
• 27:16
  mean all the shows are coming out to have you uh have you seen the new
• 27:18
  Exorcist series it's out no I've heard about it I've heard it's really good oh
• 27:22
  my God yes heard about it sh shocking you hear like oh Fox is gonna be putting
• 27:27
  out the Exorcist you're like all right let's they're probably going to rehash
• 27:30
  the movie and it it moves right past the movie it references it a bit here and
• 27:34
  there but it's its own thing it oh my God it is intense really it's it's a
• 27:38
  great great show yeah I'll have to see if we have very impressed by whatever
• 27:42
  the TV thing we have here is and I'll try to work out how to get it in
• 27:47
  Australia well I know how you can get it Luke but I'm not going to say it on the show
• 27:54
  theyby sadly it's the the only way to get a bunch of things in they often say
• 27:58
  like Australia's Got the highest um numbers for piracy and all that kind of
• 28:02
  thing there's a reason for it like don't judge us we want to watch it we want to
• 28:06
  watch stuff too say if gets released there you'll gladly do it but no nothing
• 28:10
  no we often said that on the show like if you make things available in
• 28:13
  Australia people will probably buy them yep take my money here it is my money is
• 28:19
  sitting on the table please take it what's that no region locked to the
• 28:23
  United States all right I guess I'll okay I guess I'll obtain it by of farious
• 28:29
  means into my own hands yeah no it sucks though because the other thing I mean
• 28:34
  eventually and then yeah we do get them on DVD and stuff eventually but um by
• 28:37
  that time you know everyone's already spoiled for G no one's talking about it
• 28:43
  the show's been cancelled at that point four seasons in you're like oh great
• 28:46
  yeah the same things that make the shows so kind of intense and you know like and
• 28:51
  interesting for people ruin it for Australians if they can't see
• 28:55
  it I noticed It's the weird trend with um like every show they do it but they
• 29:02
  they live tweet spoilers kind of as the show is on and I'm like oh man like I I
• 29:08
  get why because it's it's huge for marketing and stuff like walking dead
• 29:11
  did it the other day like yeah uh and I noticed Marvel tweets Agents of Shield
• 29:17
  and they'll just post like like it's a it's a spoiler it's a huge spoiler if
• 29:20
  you seen yeah so like it's like one step away of just like copying and pasting
• 29:25
  the script as they go along yeah exactly it's tense I I I I know why they do it
• 29:29
  it's the same reason they keep rebooting the comics it's because they trying to
• 29:32
  keep people try to pull people in yeah get ratings and in sales keep going for
• 29:36
  for commercials but uh yeah know it's hard I've had so many friends you know
• 29:40
  especially Walking Dead is obviously probably the biggest
• 29:43
  example every time I see a new episode come out I I see my friends going okay
• 29:47
  I've unfriended you know 20 people due to them spoiling stuff yeah rolling
• 29:51
  through things like how hard is it to be like you know what just watch you know
• 29:55
  by the time this next episode comes around we'll talk about it a week
• 29:58
  it's not life or death no one's life is that that crucial
• 30:02
  you get that out there kind of scares me off social media whenever something I
• 30:07
  want to watch is like Game of Thrones is a big is a good example I think that's
• 30:10
  one yes exactly especially that was that was a big one where they were saying oh
• 30:14
  you know we Australia leads the world and piracy it's like what it's not
• 30:17
  available and you guys keep ruining it so and I don't want any spoilers in Game
• 30:23
  of Thrones I'm going to watch season 2 one day see I we gave
• 30:28
  uh cuz like I mean again I'm not condoning piracy it sucks but but like
• 30:34
  if you want to participate in that kind of cultural phenomenon like yeah you're
• 30:39
  GNA have to cut available for everyone yeah we're all taking sips of
• 30:44
  everything I pounded a little more coffee some bottles dropping I haven't
• 30:47
  had any coffee yet actually I should do that yeah I'm the one probably with the
• 30:53
  bottles yeah you drinking gin it's late at night I'm allowed to exactly
• 30:59
  yeah that's one of the weird uh things that happens on on our show normally now
• 31:03
  is either one or two of us are drinking coffee and the other ones drinking you
• 31:07
  know like a cocktail or something no matter what time of day it is it's
• 31:11
  always me drinking the cocktail yeah Fair Point you drinking gin I assume yes
• 31:17
  yeah gin good yeah we talked a little bit about
• 31:23
  Kickstarter are there what's some some of your favorite Kickstarter is there
• 31:26
  anything running right now that you've got your eye on
• 31:28
  um um the big one I'm pushing again is my friend Joe had on this is horor
• 31:32
  Babylon he just got funded last night I saw that just hit the 100% Mark and I so
• 31:38
  excited for him because he's uh was sweating it near the end and you got
• 31:41
  three days left to go and and a long long ways to hit that point yeah kind of
• 31:45
  relaxed now and uh and kind of ride it out yeah he could sleep at night and
• 31:51
  then start pushing a little bit more for that so that one's really exciting um my
• 31:54
  friends uh Sean French launches
• 31:58
  book this next week on Kickstarter which is escape from Jesus Island oh wow
• 32:04
  that's be out there which is a really fun uh it's a collection of the issues
• 32:07
  they put out so it's um little graphic novel wonderful bizarre Horror Story of
• 32:13
  uh people trying to clone Jesus and the Fallout of that
• 32:18
  happening more these specific zombie horrific mon all right you have my
• 32:22
  intention fall out of what happens yeah yeah I think I might have to keep an eye
• 32:26
  out for that next week they're launching that yes next week I apologize I have
• 32:29
  the date in front of me but we right one of those things where I there's a small
• 32:33
  crew of us here in Maine who are support each other and work our books and we
• 32:37
  just happen to have like almost like lined up back to back to back
• 32:40
  Kickstarter so we're like all right we're all pushing each other for this I
• 32:43
  was gonna say it seems like you have a really good Community up there like uh
• 32:46
  we have a great Community here yeah yeah like uh horror comics like specifically
• 32:52
  precisely that's awesome that's it's you know it's what we do best so it gets
• 32:57
  dark winter time here you know there's not much to do so you that's true gr go
• 33:01
  with it yeah it's it gets a lot colder outside here than it does in Australia
• 33:05
  like uh I can see why people like cuz someone say oh yeah you actually just
• 33:09
  kind of get trapped in doors for like month at a time like what pretty cold
• 33:14
  and dark yeah cold dark tons of snow for a while so oppressing to see that much
• 33:20
  white you're like oh oh God I'm excited about it for nowes hit that point
• 33:25
  eventually I'll learn to hate it I think but for now yeah event in time in due
• 33:29
  time better than the um I mean I don't know I don't know how doe Fahrenheit
• 33:33
  better than I prefer that to the um the 40 degree days in uh in Sydney in summer so
• 33:40
  what's that in Fahrenheit 40 yeah it's high
• 33:44
  90s yeah right yeah it gets warm very
• 33:50
  warm here it gets cold but no we U have a really great crew of um you know Indie
• 33:56
  comic makers in Main in Portland area but all the way up through to Bangor too
• 34:00
  so there's probably a good you know 10 of us that Circle shows with each other
• 34:04
  and uh we've done our own little drink and draws in town every now and then or
• 34:08
  just go out and get wings together oh cool stay stay a breast of things you
• 34:12
  know yeah talk you know the the actual importance of Fright Night 2 random
• 34:17
  stuff like that that's kind of important to us you know to really debate and get
• 34:20
  into that's awesome and work with that and there's actually a lot of Veteran
• 34:25
  artists U and True commercial artists that are in here for uh for comic books
• 34:29
  uh lee weeks who did Daredevil for a run um J Jo stuff friend Rick Parker who
• 34:35
  said did lettering for for Spider-Man you know the classic Spider-Man number
• 34:39
  one with McFarland he did all the lettering and all the spiders and all
• 34:42
  that so oh cool oh wow it's really Happ up there yeah it it was the editor for
• 34:47
  crack magazine for years um this illustration for a Charlton this Neo
• 34:52
  Charlton that's out now he lives in this town like it's this tons more scattered
• 34:56
  throughout here so this good uh rubbing
• 34:58
  of elbows of actual sort of I'd say
• 35:04
  celebs and the blue collar workers on this end so yeah right it's a really
• 35:10
  good C to people who who who like the
• 35:15
  craft yeah so you uh are you a a physical
• 35:20
  comic guy or you a digital comic guy do you have a do you have a preference a
• 35:25
  stance an opinion uh I do both so I'm good with either sometimes it's
• 35:30
  availability digital is the best way to go at it yeah um but at the same time
• 35:35
  you know I'm raised in in actual books so i' I'm leaning more towards really
• 35:40
  nice what high-end collections is what I prefer like like the Hellboy Library
• 35:45
  editions those like dream books if everything could come out that way
• 35:48
  that'd be perfect the hot cover ones yeah yeah like this fabric black cloth
• 35:53
  gorgeous slightly oversized print I mean yeah meola's work just shin and all of
• 35:58
  those dug for Gros so at that point that's where I where I go to plus a lot of the books
• 36:04
  I'm backing on Kickstarter they're all standard OG's and they end up becoming
• 36:09
  you know hard covers on their own and yeah just seeing the different book
• 36:12
  design that comes out so I'm a I have a you know Fine Arts degree and that's
• 36:15
  where my passion kind of Lies is is seeing like really well-crafted book
• 36:19
  design yeah you appreciate that aspect of it nice spot varnish you know some
• 36:23
  different highlights you know the different weight papers like I am I am a
• 36:25
  big enough nerd to really enjoy that stuff so yeah that's the one thing
• 36:29
  digital can't do but if if it's not going to be made that way just go
• 36:33
  digital then I'm fine with that so you wouldn't you wouldn't not into like you
• 36:37
  know like a single issue kind of I I used to be but it's been so long since
• 36:42
  because of the restarting stuff the only things I was still buying um issues for
• 36:46
  which end up stopping was you know Hellboy because well Hellboy and Hell
• 36:49
  stops vprd picking up that's been forever and then anything else I would
• 36:54
  get would start and stop and start and stop so just got frustrated
• 36:58
  rating yeah of like I'm not going to keep seeing another team again reboot
• 37:01
  reboot so I kind of lost heart in that and just picked up older collections I
• 37:04
  mean I love the um the was the DC put out the um showcase collections all the
• 37:10
  black and white books oh okay which is like like 300 to 500 pages of black and
• 37:15
  white reprints of phantom stranger House of Secrets haunted tank Doom Patrol like
• 37:21
  weird weird bizarre stuff that usually doesn't get much love right and those I
• 37:25
  love going through because you get to see like artists like Alfredo
• 37:29
  alala Line work in the inks just pops so there's no you know poorly printed
• 37:34
  colors laying on top of it yeah right so I I go all over the place book so I go
• 37:38
  really sort of those are kind of cheap end kind of pieces but you get to see
• 37:42
  raw black and white art to all the way to the high end like I said the Hellboy
• 37:45
  Library editions are just gorgeous yeah yeah and expensive yeah this is true yeah it's
• 37:52
  the uh yeah it's like running out and getting those at the comic store every
• 37:55
  week it's the okay it's my birthday what we oh and uh Sandman has has uh big hard
• 38:01
  cover ones like that too I think yeah actually I have looking across my show I
• 38:05
  have the absolute editions for the sandman's yeah right um shelf gorgeous I
• 38:10
  mean just for the artwork on that too yeah be able to see on the the oversized
• 38:14
  print is brilliant is there a is this is a classic comic series that people might
• 38:21
  not have heard of that you would recommend to our
• 38:23
  listeners um well I'd say less um the I'd say the person I'm into right now so
• 38:30
  it's not it's Comics but it's not like an older series is Richard Salah um I
• 38:35
  don't know if you remember him I got into him back in you know the 90s with
• 38:39
  MTV head uh liquid television and he did a segment called 13 o'l okay uh it's
• 38:45
  very uh it's very monster esque um sort of Kit it has like axe murderers but
• 38:52
  it's always has some female lead character who uh sort of like a Wai
• 38:57
  heroine who's always taking out vampires and just weird s Cults and just bizarre
• 39:04
  pulp kind of Adventures I'd say tied to it yeah so his work is someone I would
• 39:08
  really push uh out there and he's been doing that like I said since the 90s but
• 39:14
  is not a really popular person he works with uh first second press puts out
• 39:18
  books with them and does a lot of self-published pieces but absolutely
• 39:22
  incredible but if I were to dive back to look at older stuff I mean I'm I'm
• 39:27
  always again a fan of like House of Secrets and House of mystery just
• 39:30
  because you get those classic bizarre twist Oh Henry endings but they really
• 39:34
  turn a lot of incredible artists through there so they're always worth worthly
• 39:38
  skimming through all right cool I guess where can people find more about you and
• 39:44
  your work in general sure um head over to unexpected press.com and in there
• 39:50
  you'll find links to everywhere I am Instagram Twitter Facebook uh blogging
• 39:55
  every go they keep coming up with new social medias every 12 months
• 39:59
  so I come on a h gosh L there's is everything I was dive in and kind of
• 40:06
  play around with each one to see what it has to offer yeah so I'm on most of them
• 40:10
  actively that's a different question yeah we're the
• 40:15
  same eventually comes down to like okay your Facebook Twitter and Instagram's
• 40:19
  you know leading the yeah leading the battle right now but yeah unexpected
• 40:24
  press.com head there there's a link to the kickstarter for the October goes
• 40:27
  versus the league of horror and I'd love you to come take a look and feel free to
• 40:30
  email me with any questions anyone has yeah do I have to be about this or i'
• 40:36
  take question we're talking about craft Brews we're talking Halloween
• 40:40
  decorations making your own plaster masks wherever you got to go it's fine basic
• 40:46
  Plumbing I have a question we actually went to some we went to some breweries
• 40:51
  uh up there we went to Allagash and to Foundation uh oh Foundation great y yeah
• 40:57
  actually I like the the foundation uh a lot uh what's a beer I should try CU we
• 41:03
  we're we're my wife and I super into craft beers we had like a lot of friends
• 41:07
  in the industry in Sydney and now we're here and we're like come on we need to
• 41:10
  get back into this well one of the larger craft beers I I'm a huge fan of
• 41:15
  that I always dive into it's not from Portland Maine but Portland Oregon is
• 41:19
  Rogue okay oh right I think one of those they make actually they put out a
• 41:25
  Hellboy Red Ale for celebration of uh his birthday because you know mola is
• 41:29
  over in Oregon as well too but yeah Rogue Brewing they do uh phenomenal Bru
• 41:35
  they have a Dead Guy Ale that's delicious they have a is that the one
• 41:37
  with little the little skeleton guy they're the dead looking guy yep yep yep
• 41:42
  that's that's a glowin the dark label on it too so it's kind of fun to have a few
• 41:45
  of them lined up at night so yeah yeah we used to do a thing called uh a friend
• 41:49
  of ours ran a thing called Beer Club um yeah once a month and he would get all
• 41:54
  the craft Brewers in in cityne or if anywhere in Australia and they would
• 41:57
  come along and you would pay 20 bucks and come in and they would just bring
• 42:01
  all of their new stuff and and you just drink beer and talked beer and got drunk
• 42:07
  it was amazing so no we're really fortunate um
• 42:12
  in the Portland area specifically it seems like a new Brer opens up about
• 42:16
  every six months yeah so it's non-stop like Oxbo um other guys been around for a
• 42:23
  while shipyard's been around for a while oh yeah Shipyard we went to as well yeah
• 42:26
  yeah that's great stuff in the town where I'm from about an hour north of uh
• 42:30
  Portland is Norway Brewing Company they just open up and are making some great
• 42:34
  uh alses there too so it's every pretty much again it's it's main it gets winter
• 42:38
  time what are you gonna do you know just make some beer let open a brewery at
• 42:42
  this point yeah maybe I'll open one EXA you just end up doing you don't mean to
• 42:47
  like it's like me you end up growing a beard and brewing beer that's
• 42:51
  it I have a beard already I guess this is des halfway there halfway there
• 42:58
  cool oh great oh yeah we we'll share links to uh to all of this for everybody
• 43:04
  um and we'll try we'll get this up as soon as possible because um you know we
• 43:08
  want to make sure we can direct people as much traffic to the kickstarter as
• 43:12
  possible yeah yeah push people up to the Bangor Fest up in Bangor main it's it's
• 43:17
  gonna be a wonderful show everyone should hit up come by say hi to me I'll
• 43:20
  be hanging at the table and uh eager to meet everyone cool there's so many so
• 43:25
  many good like cons here there there are a lot of great shows and again this
• 43:29
  one's sort of the halfway show between the larger Bangor show that happens um
• 43:33
  and know the Bangor comic toy convention and again a lot of uh horror people and
• 43:38
  uh other sort of media guests come through that as well it's always
• 43:42
  surprising who makes it up through here I was kind of shocked again Tony Todd
• 43:45
  this weekend Tony Todd that's yeah we got because we're in
• 43:50
  we're in Rhode Island we got Rhode Island ComiCon coming up and actually
• 43:53
  there's that's right some good guests at that too Stan Lee's going to be there
• 43:56
  and um and but like Galo and Kate be and and all these
• 44:01
  like big celebrities like like oh man this stuff Rhode Island H yeah yeah
• 44:07
  because we had we had uh two conventions in Sydney uh well we had none when I was
• 44:12
  growing up and then and then we would have kind of the occasional um comic toy
• 44:18
  and stamp collecting fair I know you and then so how that
• 44:24
  like a legion hall or a large gym exactly so we had those and then uh and
• 44:29
  then there was they started Supernova which was like an attempt to kind of do
• 44:34
  the ComiCon kind of you know like larger convention in Sydney and they would get
• 44:39
  when it first started out it was it was pretty pretty good because it was big
• 44:41
  but they would get like like two people like and it was like the celebrities you
• 44:46
  were like ah I guess I want to see them
• 44:50
  like uh but now now we have uh what this like uh we've got Oz Comicon uh we've
• 44:57
  got Supernova still we've got um uh Pax H we even have a px now yeah we have PX
• 45:04
  at down in Melbourne uh it's it's getting better and it's kind of cool now
• 45:08
  because because there's so few of them what they do is they try and get all of
• 45:12
  the celebrities at once kind of thing yeah exactly I mean just the flight to
• 45:16
  get out there I mean you pull everyone in yeah so in a way is because over here
• 45:21
  you've got like a lot of lot of conventions and then it works out fine
• 45:24
  cuz there's so many you know most of the celebrities or people leave here anyway
• 45:28
  and and they're around but it works out well in Sydney cuz like they get they
• 45:31
  get them all at one time because they just book them all for the one period oh
• 45:35
  and wrestling what is it with wrestling and all this stuff what we have actually
• 45:38
  up at this show too wrestling always gets brought in what wrestling I mean I
• 45:43
  I mean wrestling's fine but I like what is the link there it's always a surprise
• 45:47
  but there always is because even at this Bangor show there's a Jake the Snake
• 45:50
  Roberts is going to be there all their stuff like sweet get a big Boa but
• 45:54
  there's always a wrestling aspect in a horror show a comic show I'm like I get
• 45:59
  it it's it's it's it's fiction so I follow It's Entertainment entertainment
• 46:04
  so it wedges in there but it's surprising all right well uh yeah so
• 46:09
  check out uh check out the October ghost versus League of horror on Kickstarter
• 46:13
  uh unexpected press.com and um and yeah send your weird questions to Ryan Wing
• 46:19
  please do please do cheers well thank you very much guys it was great talking
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  with you yeah no thanks so much thanks for coming yeah yeah it's [Music]
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  great this interview and multiple Luke this interview oh you you got thought
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  wanted a cough yeah I know I'm sorry I made you jealous this interview on
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  multiple nerdgasm in general is brought to you by tuu TBL is a really cool
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  t-shirt and apparel store and actually this well you know what what do I call
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  the they're not really t-shirts and apparel they sell like notebooks and
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  phone cases and too what what is this store how would you describe this
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  store Luke they sell cool they sell
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  cool yeah and Y they also sell our merch oh phone cases yeah there phone
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  cases is this the first time you've looked at this no no it's the first time
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  I've I've looked at anything apart from the apparel okay cool yeah they got
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  notebooks mugs cases uh wall art you can buy prints of all the the designs on
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  there and they've got our merch as well so if you'd like to dress yourself in
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  the trappings of multiple nerd gasm you can head to multipl nerdgasm tocom merch
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  and check out our tuu store and check out some of their other designs as well
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  such as these really cool stranger things designs all the designs are done
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  by independent designers and uh they are
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  constructed and sent to you by T public I might go online and order one now to
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  take where the packs that's not a bad idea but yeah and uh and and yeah if you
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  got to multiple nerdgasm tocom merch uh like if you visit tuu via that link uh
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  you help support this show and and our our other shows and we love you I I love
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  you more you're talking to me or the listeners the listeners out of out of
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  the three of us on the podcast M you me and Dan yeah I love you the most me you
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  love me the most I love the listeners the most more than I was talking to the
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  listeners but you love me more than Dan out out of the three of us you love me
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  the most and and you also love the list the most is that right me and the
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  listeners well well it goes listeners
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  M you Matt listeners at the bottom yeah then me and then Dan at the top
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  interesting they know what I mean