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Jaguars Happy Hour | Recapping Week 7 Win vs. Patriots · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Victory Monday, October twenty First, this is Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't your show just yet. And that wasn't very nice,
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  Speaker 2: But we do have a Victory Monday Happy Hour. I'm
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  Speaker 2: Kinnanni Stevens and for JP Shadrick, he is traveling back
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  Speaker 2: from the United Kingdoms, so you guys get me for
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  Speaker 2: one more and I feel very honored. I've had both
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  Speaker 2: Victory Happy Hour Mondays so far this season, one on
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  Speaker 2: one trip to London, Jaguars obviously beating the Patriots thirty
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  Speaker 2: two sixteen, the highest scoring game we've seen from the
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars so far this season. So it should be a
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  Speaker 2: fun episode coming up for you. We always keep it
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  Speaker 2: real and of course we'll have fanatic fan questions for
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  Speaker 2: you coming up as well. But more than anything, Jags
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  Speaker 2: needed that win.
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  Speaker 3: Yesterday, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 1: Needed to win a game.
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  Speaker 4: It didn't matter where Obviously we love coming over here,
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  Speaker 4: but it didn't matter where. We just needed to feel
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  Speaker 4: what winning feels like again.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Hall of Famer Tony Boselli as we mentioned
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  Speaker 2: in that play, and Pete Prisco going to join us
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  Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, they needed it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I jumped a gun a little bit there.
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  Speaker 2: So Okay, it's been a long it's been a long hours.
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  Speaker 3: That was a long week. Good week. Always good to
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  Speaker 3: go over to London, the annual trip, and it was.
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  Speaker 2: A lot longer because they lost the first game.
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  Speaker 1: That's for sure.
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  Speaker 3: It did make it, didn't it like last week's seem
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  Speaker 3: d I mean, last year felt like it just was
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  Speaker 3: so quick and great because we won both games. This year,
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  Speaker 3: probably there was a downer after that Bears game. We
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  Speaker 3: talked about that last week. We're going to ignore that
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  Speaker 3: this week because we got a victory. Did not start
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  Speaker 3: very well. I was nervous after the first quarter, down
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  Speaker 3: ten to nothing. We had five offensive plays, they had nineteen,
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  Speaker 3: had eight first downs, we had one. But give them credit.
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  Speaker 3: One of the things this team had been criticized for
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  Speaker 3: was not being able to overcome adversity. Trevor even called
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  Speaker 3: them fragile, and they did it, and I think it
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  Speaker 3: was led by the offense. The offense got it going
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  Speaker 3: broad energy. There was no energy at being in that game, Kai,
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  Speaker 3: I thought, not at all.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously the Jags didn't have any excuse because we've
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  Speaker 2: been there all week. The Patriots obviously, with the flight
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  Speaker 2: and whatnot, sometimes teams can start a little slow. But Pete,
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  Speaker 2: how do you look on TV?
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  Speaker 1: Like I think they looked lifeless, Like Tony said, you said,
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  Speaker 1: it just didn't look good in the beginning. But look,
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  Speaker 1: the one thing you were looking for, if things weren't
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  Speaker 1: going well, would they respond? And they did because the
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  Speaker 1: quit talk was out there, the fragile talk was out there,
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  Speaker 1: the culture talk was out there, and so they could
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  Speaker 1: have quit.
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  Speaker 5: They could have, you know, curled up.
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  Speaker 1: In the fetal position and said the season's done and
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  Speaker 1: started booking their trip to to Bermuda or wherever they go.
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  Speaker 1: But they didn't. And that's a good sign. And it's
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  Speaker 1: a good sign the way they did it. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of good things that came out of that game.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean everything's fixed, That doesn't mean they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: make a playoff push. It means none of that. It
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  Speaker 1: means they beat a bad football team. But they did
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  Speaker 1: it after they fell behind ten nothing, and that's a
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  Speaker 1: good sign for that team. No, I agree.
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  Speaker 3: I thought the first quarter was very concerning and more
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  Speaker 3: not even offensively. Let me had one drive, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: and they got a first down. They stalled out. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: whatever that happens. But they only have five plays because
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  Speaker 3: your defense, again couldn't get off the field against the
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  Speaker 3: worst offense. Let's just be clear. The Patriots are the
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  Speaker 3: worst offense in the NFL. They're terrible. And I was like,
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  Speaker 3: what is going on?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 3: I agree with Pete giving them all the credit because
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  Speaker 3: we've all seen teams in the past that do curl
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  Speaker 3: up in the fetal position. They did not. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna go back to that offense. I'm gonna go to
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  Speaker 3: try never Lawrence, who's played really good football peat in
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  Speaker 3: the last three games. And I thought offensively, they ran
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  Speaker 3: the ball, Tank was great, Trevor was great, offensive line protected.
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  Speaker 3: Now that's not a very good defense. It's not a
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  Speaker 3: dynamic defense by any means, but okay, it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 3: to the NFL. They get paid and the offense, man,
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  Speaker 3: they brought the energy, and I'll tell you, as a
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  Speaker 3: player and being on teams a lot of times that
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  Speaker 3: somebody has to step up, somebody has to make a play,
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  Speaker 3: or a unit does if the other unit's struggling. And
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  Speaker 3: I thought both offensively and special teams Parker Washington touchdown
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  Speaker 3: which I couldn't believe he fielded that punt when he did,
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  Speaker 3: but credit to him, he made it happen. And then
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  Speaker 3: the defense started coming along and started, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: the one thing the defense did the entire day peat
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  Speaker 3: is they stopped the run, making them one dimensional. And
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  Speaker 3: I think Drake may is gonna be a really good
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  Speaker 3: quarterback in this league. But they don't have the weapons,
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  Speaker 3: they don't have the offensive line, they don't have the
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  Speaker 3: talent to make to be one dimensional, they had to
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  Speaker 3: be able to run the ball. The Jaguars took that away,
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  Speaker 3: as they should, and you felt like, really end of
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  Speaker 3: second quarter, beginning of third that the game was over,
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  Speaker 3: like the Patriots were not going to come back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, you mentioned the quarterback, and and he's
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  Speaker 1: taken a lot of criticism over the course of the
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  Speaker 1: last season, you know, half the last season and this season,
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  Speaker 1: but are you right, the last couple of weeks have
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  Speaker 1: been really good. And so what do they do to
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  Speaker 1: kind of open things up a little bit, Tony? What
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  Speaker 1: they doos the.
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  Speaker 5: Middle of the field?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you take shots down the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the field, you hit those shots. And and one of
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  Speaker 1: the best throws he made was the crosser to Kirk Brady.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then Thomas made the big throw in the big
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  Speaker 1: play in the middle of the field for the big play.
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  Speaker 1: But those open things up. The threat of that opens
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  Speaker 1: everything else up. It opens the run game up, It
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  Speaker 1: opens those button million, fourteen thousand bubble screens they throw up.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why I think it was so good to
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  Speaker 1: see him do that the game, and I think it
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  Speaker 1: kind of got them going a little bit. It's kind
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  Speaker 1: of set the tempo for the rest of the day
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  Speaker 1: when they could be physical.
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  Speaker 5: Look, let's be real about it. You throw the score,
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  Speaker 5: you run the win.
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  Speaker 1: You have to be able to run the ball when
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  Speaker 1: you need to run the ball, but you have to
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  Speaker 1: be able to get chunk plays in the passing game.
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  Speaker 5: And I think they did that.
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  Speaker 1: Now that Patriots aren't very good on defense, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: but the fact that they did it was very encouraging.
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  Speaker 3: But Pete, I'm gonna like and we have had this
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  Speaker 3: debate a thousand times of the show. You talk about
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  Speaker 3: throw the ball to open it up, stretch things out,
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  Speaker 3: then run it. I like this fact those pound the
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  Speaker 3: rock and open up the play action pass take those
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  Speaker 3: deep shots because if you notice, both those deep shots
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  Speaker 3: were off play action pass.
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  Speaker 5: But they hadn't run it very well before they had.
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  Speaker 3: Now they were I mean the Kirk one I agree
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  Speaker 3: with they had not run the ball very well because
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  Speaker 3: it was early. That was the second That was only
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  Speaker 3: the second drive they had the ball, second time they
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  Speaker 3: had the ball in the game. I thought after that
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  Speaker 3: they did run the ball well. I thought they were
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  Speaker 3: physical upfront.
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  Speaker 1: I thought was when did Thomas play come the four
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  Speaker 1: third series?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, how many rushing yards did they have?
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  Speaker 1: At that point.
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  Speaker 3: They had pounded tank a few times. Pete where they
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  Speaker 3: started pounding it, he was getting he was having success.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm not arguing your point is fair
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  Speaker 3: there because they did take shots early in the game.
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  Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it. Now we say early in
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  Speaker 3: the game, it was the second quarter because they weren't
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  Speaker 3: on the field the first quarter.
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  Speaker 1: That has to change.
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  Speaker 3: Like, by the way, I don't want to be negative
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  Speaker 3: in this first segment because we did win. Let me
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  Speaker 3: tell you what. The next four games are against four
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  Speaker 3: playoff teams, four teams with winning records, four teams with quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 3: four teams that are good. And if you start games
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  Speaker 3: like that against those teams. Defensively, it's gonna be hard
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  Speaker 3: to come back, it's gonna be very difficult. With that said,
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  Speaker 3: offensively they did, and to peach credit and to Pete's
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  Speaker 3: point point of view, they did throw it down the
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  Speaker 3: field early, in the middle of the field and took
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  Speaker 3: shots and give him credit, Trevor was very accurate, did
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  Speaker 3: a great job, and then they got the run game going.
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  Speaker 3: At one point, Pete, I know you were probably just
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  Speaker 3: having like an allergic reaction. They were called seventeen straight
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  Speaker 3: run plays.
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  Speaker 1: No, because you had the lead. I had no problem
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  Speaker 1: with it. I had no problem with it. It was working,
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  Speaker 1: they had the lead. I had no problem whatsoever.
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  Speaker 3: I was so excited at the booth. I'm like, this
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  Speaker 3: is the greatest thing I've ever seen. And I text,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I text, pressed, that's the game. I said,
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  Speaker 3: that's an offensive lines dream right there. Seventeenth straight play
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  Speaker 3: run plays like get physical, get after it, and I
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  Speaker 3: thought the offensive line did a great job. Kunos to
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  Speaker 3: Walker Little coming off the bench, I thought he I
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  Speaker 3: didn't get to watch the tape Pete because I did,
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't download it.
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  Speaker 1: Was he was the best offensive lineman on the field.
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  Speaker 3: He was physical. Though I watched him, I had my
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  Speaker 3: eye on him once he came in, I thought, listen,
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  Speaker 3: they don't have any pass rushers over there, so forget
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  Speaker 3: about the pass walking. I didn't. I didn't expect that
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  Speaker 3: front to get much pressure on Trevor. However, they have
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  Speaker 3: some big, long individuals who are physical at times. I
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  Speaker 3: thought Walker Little brought a physicality to the run game,
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  Speaker 3: and they ran right behind him very effectively. It'll be
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  Speaker 3: very interesting to see what happens now Cam had the concussion. Well,
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  Speaker 3: he's in the protocol, so we'll see if he's back
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  Speaker 3: by Green Bay this week. But let's say he's healthy.
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  Speaker 3: I think you have a real decision because the physicality
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  Speaker 3: and the way Walker Little played was very impressive to me.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he got to the second level.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he came off his guy a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: different times Tony on the tape and got to the
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  Speaker 1: second level and keyed those runs.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he did a great job.
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  Speaker 1: Look when I put on the tape this morning, I
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  Speaker 1: went in with the open mind. How did he play?
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  Speaker 1: He was the best offensive lineman on the field. There's
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  Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it was close. And so it's a
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  Speaker 1: good it's a good problem because I think you have
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  Speaker 1: to go to him.
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  Speaker 5: I do.
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  Speaker 1: I think you have to go to him. He finishes,
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  Speaker 1: he's tougher. He was pretty, like you said, not a
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  Speaker 1: great pass protection over there. He looks so much more
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  Speaker 1: comfortable over there than he does on the other side.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's just who he should be playing. Should
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  Speaker 1: be playing left tackle, and that's his position. As far
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  Speaker 1: as the rest of the line, and we'd go through
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  Speaker 1: them a little bit. I thought Morse had his worst game,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Pete.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't watch the tape, but live I would, I
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  Speaker 3: would agree with you. I watched. I'm like, huh, I
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  Speaker 3: haven't seen that from Mitch. Mitch has played really well.
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  Speaker 3: I think he gave up a couple of pressures. I
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  Speaker 3: found him on the ground.
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  Speaker 5: He didn't walk in the run game. Wasn't great in
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  Speaker 5: the run game.
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  Speaker 3: He was he on the ground more than usual because
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  Speaker 3: I thought watching problems.
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  Speaker 1: He had problems with that nose tackle when he was
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  Speaker 1: on his nose. He had real problems with him, and
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  Speaker 1: so that was an issue. You know, the third and one,
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  Speaker 1: the fourth and one. Give me a break.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, okay, we're not let's talk about that in
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  Speaker 3: the next hour. Things he did not like, Let's stay
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  Speaker 3: positive this.
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  Speaker 1: No. I mean, look, I got my tape, my tape
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  Speaker 1: book right here, full of plenty of negatives, because you
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  Speaker 1: know I'll find them.
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  Speaker 2: I had no doubt.
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  Speaker 3: And I'll just say right now, because Pete's going to
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  Speaker 3: go there next segment about the fourth and one, when
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  Speaker 3: we had an opportunity to make it a three possession
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  Speaker 3: game late in the fourth or mid midway through the fourth,
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  Speaker 3: I say, eight minutes, eight minutes, twenty six seconds. I
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  Speaker 3: thought it was eight.
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  Speaker 1: Eleven eleven fifty or something.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, whatever it was, I'm going to say on the
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  Speaker 3: record right now, I said, go for it. I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 3: I was wrong to do it. I was emotional. I
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  Speaker 3: was being an offensive lineman because they were running the ball.
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  Speaker 3: They'd run it sixteen straight times. They were dominating, they
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  Speaker 3: were physical, and I said, you know what, give the
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  Speaker 3: offensive line a bone like show that you trust them
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  Speaker 3: in retrospect. As soon it was over because Logman called
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  Speaker 3: me out on the air. He was right. I knew
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  Speaker 3: Pete was going to kill me today. I knew Pete
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  Speaker 3: was going to kill me on Twitter. He's right.
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  Speaker 1: I was wrong.
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  Speaker 3: They should have kicked it. But the offensive line in
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  Speaker 3: me wanted to go for it. I wanted to throw
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  Speaker 3: the big guys at bone because I thought they were
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  Speaker 3: physical all day. I like the press, Taylor trusted them.
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  Speaker 3: I like the Doug and tusted them. I wanted to
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  Speaker 3: see them go for it. That's the wrong call. I
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  Speaker 3: was wrong. I don't say that very often. I don't
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  Speaker 3: like a meeting when I'm wrong. Pete, I was wrong,
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  Speaker 3: you were right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you were wrong. Was wrong, you were wrong.
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  Speaker 5: Doug was wrong.
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  Speaker 1: They were wrong. It makes no sense. He does eighteen eighteen,
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  Speaker 1: takes the two scores out of the makes it three scores.
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  Speaker 5: The game's over.
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  Speaker 3: But he let me tell you what. Pete is wrong.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, I forget about attitude.
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  Speaker 1: Attitude goes out to wind you right.
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  Speaker 5: Stop telling him he's wrong too. I'm not talking just
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  Speaker 5: to you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking to Doug Peterson, what's the rationale behind it?
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  Speaker 3: Were you?
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  Speaker 1: You?
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  Speaker 5: What you're thinking there?
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  Speaker 3: Just to make myself feel good as an offensive lineman?
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  Speaker 5: You not you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he's capable of not doing it. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like if there's ever a maybe on a fourth down,
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  Speaker 2: I absolutely know that he's wrong.
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  Speaker 3: That's who he is. Was wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Let me so good on third short that decided to
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  Speaker 1: go back to fourth to Jort, I mean you didn't
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  Speaker 1: get anything on third short.
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  Speaker 5: You should have said, no, we're going to go kick
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  Speaker 5: the field goal. Let's calm it said.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, you made your point. I'm with you where
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  Speaker 3: you Peene is wrong, dead wrong. But Patriots were right
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  Speaker 3: going for two when they did, because you at that
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  Speaker 3: point you know what you need to do. And by
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  Speaker 3: the way, we were very fine.
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  Speaker 5: I don't have any problem with that. I didn't have
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  Speaker 5: any problem with it.
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  Speaker 3: I thought you called it out on Twitter that you
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  Speaker 3: said you disagreed. Okay, I didn't.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't quite understand going for two when Jacksonville did it.
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  Speaker 3: I did just because they I mean, the odds saved
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  Speaker 3: from the one one go for it. I mean that's yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's all okay.
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  Speaker 1: If the odds say from the one, you go for it,
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  Speaker 1: they threw a pass, what's the difference throwing the pass.
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  Speaker 5: From the two to the one.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't say I liked the play call. I just said.
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  Speaker 1: The thing.
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  Speaker 3: We are fortunate that turf was a little slippery because
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  Speaker 3: they they had a return route which is fake in
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  Speaker 3: go out, and the Jaguars defender I think it was
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  Speaker 3: Monterrey Brown.
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  Speaker 1: It was was it fell down.
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  Speaker 3: Dead to rights. The receiver slipped. That is, it would
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  Speaker 3: have been a one possession game if the receiver doesn't slip.
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  Speaker 1: And it would have been one possession game at large
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  Speaker 1: part because he didn't kick the damn field goal.
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  Speaker 3: That too, and that's what I was dreading it. I
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  Speaker 3: was so happy when he fell because I, oh gosh,
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  Speaker 3: but I was like, my idiotic decision to say go
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  Speaker 3: for it was so wrong and it was about to
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  Speaker 3: become even more wrong if they get the two point conversion.
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  Speaker 3: But overall, like, kudos that team, because let me say something,
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  Speaker 3: you're in London. You had a bad loss against a
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  Speaker 3: rookie quarterback the week before with Chicago, there was a
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  Speaker 3: lot of noise. That's a long week after a loss.
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  Speaker 3: Guys are away from their families, coaches away from their families.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone's negative around them. You know, one in five everyone's
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: saying it's over, calling for you know, people to be fired.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was really a tough situation away from home.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: And I give those guys a ton of credit. I
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: give the whole organization on the football side a ton
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: of credit because they buckled down and they showed up. Yes,
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: the Patriots are the worst team in the NFL, or
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: they're they're fine, Caroline or the Patriots. They're both like,
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: they should play each other to see wo's the worst team.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: It will be a zero three zero game. We'll see
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: who wins. Doesn't matter. But that's a bad football team
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: we'd beat. I don't care. It's still the NFL. You
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: can lose to those teams. And they showed up. They
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: were ready. I didn't like how they came out of
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: the locker room, but when it mattered, they got their
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: stuff together on the sideline, they found a way to
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: dig deep and they played really good football from the
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: second quarter on, and I give them credit for that.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: We saw some fight, which was great.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: It was great.
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• 16:00
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• 16:10
  Speaker 6: It really meant a lie and I if me personally
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: I could take some of that responsibility because that first
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: touchdown that was on me and obviously just coming into
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: the finishing the game and doing everything that I know I.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Could do, which is execute every player.
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: And so that's what I feel like we did going
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: on for the rest of the game and everything was clearing.
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• 16:39
  Speaker 2: talking post game after the Jaguars got a win in London.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: There only win in London because they lost the first
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: game to the Bears and Tony. We talked a little
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: bit about this off the top. The defense did not
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: look great coming out of the gun, including that touchdown
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: run against trym Michael Hasey, former running back for the Jaguars.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: What was that play exactly?
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: You mean the little swing pass to so they it
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: looked like they're in the zone blitz and trying to
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: overload offensive left defensive right dropping Josh heinz Allen the coverage.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: I don't like it. On third down, you know they're passing.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Why are you putting your why are you putting your
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: best pass rusher in coverage? I don't understand that or.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Josh Heinzellen coverage pretty much ever really.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Like like I would never drop him, but I get
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: some blitzers. You want to overload and make them think, okay,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: great whatever. We don't blitz very much. We blitzed more
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: like one possession then we have all year. I think,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: still bad offensive tackles third and long, like let Josh
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: go like get like you gotta rush the passer. And
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: they dropped him the coverage. I thought, look, he looked
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: late dropping.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Well, well you know what happened, Tony. He was on
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: on the right side of the defensive formation and dropped
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: out into the middle.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: He was on the left side. He was playing left
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: end that play and was supposed to drop into the flat.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: I thought it was dropped. Wasn't very good and then
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: there was so much space.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's on the other side.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: He came across the It's that's the weird thing about it.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: I don't think he did. I don't know.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I'm almost one positive. If we could show the play,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: you could see it. It's a bad coverage. It's a
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: bad it's a bad thing.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: For I'd love to pull it up if we have it.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know if we have it or not. And
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: I'll trust you because I didn't watch the tape again,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I thought he'd dropped from because he played it was
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: interesting this game. Josh Heinzeuen played some more left end
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: than he had been. They kind of flipped him and
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: uh Trayvon around and then at the in the fourth
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: quarter when they're doing a lot of pass rushing, he
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: was playing three technique and they had Graziano at the
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: end and they're trying to get pushed inside using Joshu
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: the three technique, which I'm not against. I think I'd
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: like to see Trayvon inside bet more. I think it'd
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: be really interesting to have Trayvon and Josh on the
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: same side at times, but I like to mix it up,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: trying to get create things.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: But they finally listened to me on how to align
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: their defense though they're listening in Pete.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah it was Pete. I'm pretty sure it was the
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: least amount of end that Eric Armstead played.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: And had game and he got his pressures from inside.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Shocking.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Only that shocking you you say where Darnell Savage was playing.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Right safety because Antonio Johnson got benched.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Which is where he should be playing.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: I didn't.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I say that all throughout the early part of this
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: show and in training camp, and I said that all along.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: He's not a nickel. He's a safety. He should have
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: been playing safety all along.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: He played a lot of nickel in Green Bay.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: But I know, but he's not a nickel. He's a safety.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: That's what he is. He came into the league as
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: a safety. He's not a nickel. He's not a twitchy guy.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: He's a safety. And and I personally think if it
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: was my team, this is how I would play it.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: He'd be one of the safeties, Cisco would be the
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: other one, and I think I'd have my corners being
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Monteric Brown and Campbell, and I played Jerryus Jones at
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the nickel.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Well, Jerry's played nickel. Yesterday in Montera, they rotated all
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: three guys.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: Rotate everybody hockey team.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Remember we never forget three plays in they took the
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: starting divisive line out three plays in.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: I got nothing to say because I don't get it either.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: So I'm looking, does anybody ever asked that guy why
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: he does that? Hey, Ryan, what the hell do you
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: rotate players like their hockey team for?
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: What does he say so that they're What was he
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: trying to say? I think he said two weeks ago
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: is because that has played them, so now they're ready
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: to go.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm a big believer play your best players
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: as much as you can. I agree, that's my theory.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: But it was right.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: The alignments are right, and and and by the way,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Monterak deserves to be on the field. He has earned
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the right to be on that field, and just like
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I think Ventre Miller has earned the right, particularly in
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: the run game, he's earned the right to be on
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: that field. But I think the alignment best alignments, and
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: one I just gave him because Jones looks like a
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: nickel corner.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: Savage never was. He's a safety.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: And I like what they did in the dime. You
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: can put Antonio Johnson down that linebacker level, right.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Which suits his skill set, right. I mean, I just
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: it's just an Armstead was so much more comfortable rushing
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: from the from the three technique.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: I wonder what Pete is that gouldn't be because his
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: whole career he rushed as a three technique and sub.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, they did a lot, a little bit
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: of a few different things though, Like they put Abdullah.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: On the inside a couple of times.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Well they also put josh heinz Allen on the inside
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: and put up Due outside and put uh you know,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: at the end of the game, Pete, he was rushing
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: three technique in a three point stance, and he had
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Graziano outside. Sometimes he had a duel outside. Sometimes they
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: changed it up. I still think I thought I would
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: love to see Trayvon get some rushes at three technique
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: me too, just too.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: And there was talk of this, and there was a
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: lot of.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: And I haven't seen it.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it, but I'll tell you what when
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: when he and Arms sta are in side by side
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: over there rushing.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: That's two big bodies coming after.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Now, And the funny thing I saw the
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: win rate for the Jaguars. Armstead was one, or maybe
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: it was for the league this weekend win rate Armstead
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: won or pressure rate one of the two. I got
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: thirty four percent and Josh Allen Heinz Allen was third.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: I think, uh, some.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: On has PFF has pass rush win win rate, Eric
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Arms has thirty six percent, joshes An thirty one points.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Were they one and three in the league?
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Yep, pass rush snaps.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Both of them. I mean, Josh heines Allen's getting a
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: lot of pressure.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Peat he's not getting sacks, I know.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: And then and then trade Bon's not.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: In fact, they don't get it. Usually don't get any
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: pressure on the inside.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: And trade Bon's not getting a lot of like as
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: far as PFF, a lot of pressure. But he's getting
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: the sacks.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: But when he gets there he gets yeah yeah.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Now, but the sack, if you look at the sack
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: he got, there was pressure inside so the quarterback couldn't
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: step up. Drake Bay dropped, he went backwards right, yep.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Right, and and by the way. I want to say this.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I thought Hamilton had his best game since he's been back. Hamilton, Yes,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I thought he was physical in the run game. I mean,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: they're still not pushing the pocket in the middle of
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: that defense. But he was physical in the run game
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and had his best game since he had that back issue.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: I figured because they averaged the they averaged about a
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: yard per carry. They could not run the ball at all.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: The Patriots. I thought the front seven did a great
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: job against the run, and that's what you have to
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: do against a rookie quarterback.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: For'sive line.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, they're terrible, Pepe they start. That was their seventh
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: starting combination.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Of the year. Michael Jordan might be one of the
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: worst guards I've ever seen in my entire life.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: He's a heck of a basketball player though indeed, yeah, yeah,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: but he can't play guard.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: That's that's you know. I used to give out a
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Spinning Top Award each week to the worst offensive lineman
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: in the league, and then at the end of the
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: year he wanted. I think he wanted two or three
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: times when he was in Carolina, so he was the
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: winner of the entire year.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: He won the award. He was awful. I mean, it's
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: just bad.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: But but look credit to that front seven. They were
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: were more physical and Hamilton was better. Here's the question
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I have a couple of them. Why did it take
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: so long to figure out the things that you needed
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: to do to play that defense when it was so
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: obvious staring in the face.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: But okay, with timeout, go ahead. You said, A what's B?
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Huh?
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: You said, why did it take so long to figure
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: out how to play that defense? A?
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: What was the B?
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: You're I assume you're gonna give us a B option?
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah? The B is the rotation? What are we doing?
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: So here's here's my question, Pete. They did what they
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: had to do. They won a game they're supposed to win.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Is it they played better or is it the Patriots
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: are that bad upfront? I mean, Jeff and I watch
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: the tape, We're like, this might be the worst offense
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: line we've seen all year. It is, And I think
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: the real test is the next four and starting with
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Green Bay because green Bay is a good football team,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: well coached. I'm not saying they're the best team in
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: the NFC or anything, but they're a good football team.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: They're a good team and they got good offensive line, and.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: They had a good offensive line. They have a good quarterback,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: they have weapons outside, they have a good running back.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: They have a pretty good defense too. I haven't studied
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: them yet. I mean they they took it to Houston.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: They rushed, they harassed c. J. Stroud the whole game,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: and it was a close game. But they and they,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: but they got the victory with the last minute field goal.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Our old guy, no comment.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: But by the way, let me ask you this too.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: A couple other things we didn't talk about because Roy
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: robertson Harris, you know that whole thing happened. Yea after
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: the show last week. We were onto something when he
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: was playing in the preseason to.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: There was something going on there.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: We knew it. Here's the other part of that. Why
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: did the second round pick is a healthy scratch?
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Here's the real thing, Pete. It's a great question because
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: the rookie second rounder, and you expect your second rounder
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: to contribute. That it's going to be a starter, but
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: you expect him to contribute. He is a second second
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: time this year, a healthy scratch, but healthy scratch. The
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: week you got rid of one of your core rotational
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: players and Roy Robinson, Harris and you brought up the
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: sixth round or whatever Jefferson was for the first time.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: There's questions there like something's going on. They are unhappy. Yes,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: you you don't healthy scratch your second rounder, especially when
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: you got rid of depth at that position during the week.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: I just I would say that something happened on the trip.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not gonna say he was.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: I don't Maybe I don't.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: Maybe maybe it's late for me.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's it, Pete. I don't think that.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: Would be the better part of it.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: That means the other part of it means he's not
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: very good and he has talent.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: I don't think it was because of disciplinary reasons.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: What do you think it is? Because he just they
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: don't think he's very good. Well, there's also some talk
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: that the coach and the general manager different on that
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: one too.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know that either.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I've heard that one too.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know that.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna think it over during the break
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: coming up, we will talk a little bit more about
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: the defense. Also, big day from Tank again once again
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: stepping up with Traves, ytn out with an injury.
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: You don't get too many opportunities in this National Football League,
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: so when you get one, you have to take full
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: advantage of them and do it at your best ability.
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: And I felt like as we kept running the ball
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: that they got, the Patriots would get tired, and we
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: just got to keep going. And we've got to keep going,
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: to keep going, to keep going. And I just took
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: advantage though opportunities because on film to show like fourth quarter, come,
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: third quarter, come those guys will start arm tackling and
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: there starting loafing.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: So we just did what we had to do when
• 28:04
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  Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Back here on Happy Hour victory Monday,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Tank bigsby another big day, taking full advantage of that opportunity.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Travesy Dn, suffering a hamstring injury, wasn't able to go,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: but Tank certainly was. Tony I'm pretty good day, I
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: know as an offensive lineman and you you were excited
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: for the run.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: So I loved it. I love how they I think.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I think Press did a great job calling the game.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: I think he got a feel for it, and he
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: saw his offensive line playing well. He saw both backs.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: I thought the Artist Johnson ran the ball very well
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: in that game, and so the combination of Tank and
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: the Artist and an offensive line, I really like what
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Press did. They had some good play action pass. Trevor
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: was on you know, spot on during the day, so
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: it was outstanding and I thought it was interesting. I
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: saw a Pro Football Talk and I don't know if
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: someone asked, but you know, Doug Peterson said that Travis
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: etn is still their number one back and he's the
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: head coach. That's his choice. I've said it, so I'm
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: not changing my tune because I've said this since the
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: beginning of the season. I said in the preseason, and
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: I got a lot of heat for it, at least
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: here locally. I think I think Bigsby's your best running back.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's doing and I.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Think maybe I know why Doug is saying it the
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: way he is. What I believe is going to happen
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: is it's going to be more of a split and
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: they'll use Etn in the past game a little bit
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: more and kind of more to his skill set. But
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I don't believe it's it's going to turn into a
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: combo thing. I believe at some point.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Or or it could turn into trading trade deadline.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying if you're the Dallas
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: cow if you're the Dallas Cowboys and you're supposed to
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: have this team that's going to be a playoff team
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: and you don't have a back that's worthy of that, why.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: Don't you go make a move to go get a
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: guy like Etn?
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: What would you what would it take to get him?
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Pete? Well, his contract is remember they picked up the
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: fifty year option, so he's got some cash on that contract.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: It's not cheap. So four.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I don't know. I'd be like a third,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: but yeah, I don't know. If you're I don't know
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: if you're gonna get a third.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: But but again, you got to look at that if
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: you're if you're Jacksonville, you have to look at that.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: And definitely make if something.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're going to lose to the Packers.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: But if they did lose to the Packers, then you
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: got to start looking at all your trade options as well.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I think that's something you got to consider.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: I would agree, but I would agree with that by
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: the way, I would agree with one. I would listen
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: right now too, if someone offered to me be a
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: third for sure for Travis. Yeah, but not just him.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about depending on what happens this week. I
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: think you do start listening even more.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: Like camp Robinson, what do you do or walk little
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: one of them?
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: I would listen, no, no, bat doubt about it, because
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: both of both the free agents at the end of
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: the year.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Kirk, I would listen, yep.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: I think all those guys are in play for potential.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Now it all depends and hopefully we win this week,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: and now you're okay, let's wait in another week. Let's
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: see where this thing goes. And they're more than capable
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: of winning this week if they play good football. But
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: I'll go back to it. I said it before the
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: game with the Patriots. I think Tank Bigsby, you need
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: to give him twenty plus carries. I think he's he
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: gets better as the game goes on. I think he's physical,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: and I would give Tank Bigsby twenty plus carries a game.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: That's what I would do.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Yep, So okay, give him twenty you're gonna give Etn
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: six or seven? Then? Basically sure? And dearnest ran pretty well?
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: Ye ran great.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I mean that's another.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Reason why you trade Etn. So let me ask you
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: this when as it relates to the running back position,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: do you ping them for wasting a first round pick
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: on Etn? Do you give him credit for taking Bigsby
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: when they had him in the in the what round?
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Did he come there? A third?
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Third?
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you give it? So you get it's probably
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: a combination of both of them.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: I want to be consistent because I think Travis CTN
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: is a good player. But even when I thought he
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: was the best back on this team and thought he
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: was a very good player, I would never I would
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: not have drafted him in the first round. Not because
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: it's Travis Etn. There was no back I would have
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: drafted in the first round.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: No, it's not worth it.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Because I think you can get good backs like Tank
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Span Tink Bigsby late in the second, third, and fourth round. Right,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: that's right, that's my I'm not saying I'm right, but
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: that's my.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: Third No, you're right.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: No, you're right, and I'm never going to admit that
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: out loud, but you're right.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Uh, you don't draft backs in the first round. You
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: find him anywhere there, you pull them off the shelf.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I always like to say, boom, there's another one, and
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: so you kill them for taking him in the first round,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: but you give him credit for finding the guy when
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: he did find him in the third round. So I
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: think it's a combination of too one quick note. I
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: went back and watched the play. I was right, Tony.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: He lined up at right defensive end. The back was
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: on the lined up offset on the right side of
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: the offensive formation. So for him to even get over
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: there and try and cover him, he has to clear
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: run across the formation to get over there. It's a terrible,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: terrible coverage and I don't know how they put him
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: in that situation.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, okay, that makes me feel better because
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: I thought he just took a bad drop because.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: He went all the way across the field and Trayvon
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: kind of chirped up and said it was on him.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: So I'm wondering I order. He was supposed to drop
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: when he saw the running back was on his side
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: and he did it. I wonder it looked like something
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: went wrong.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: I wonder if both of them are supposed to drop.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: And then the other part of that is Cisco made
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: it lazy, terrible play on that play. And you know,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: for a guy who calls people call people out for
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: quitting last week, he looked like he was loafing and
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: then realized that the tackle wasn't going to be made
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: and had to try and get over there, and the
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: guy just made a move on him. Look, you're gonna
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: call people out for quitting, you better go full all
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: out all the time. And he didn't on that play.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys saw it at the game.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: I did not see it obviously. I did not see
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: it live because I got I didn't see the Josh
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: yeah yeah, or I forgot being uh in London. I
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: tried to download the tape but it had not been
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: uploaded to the cloud last night and then I flew
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: home today.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: No, Tony was out on the town. He wasn't watching films.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: No, that's not true, guy. I was in my room
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: trying to download it to my iPad. It was no, No,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: I was not drinking tea. I did not go to
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: bed early. I didn't say that, but.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: God when I said that about Cisco, so you noticed
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: it too.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel the safety tackling in general, it's
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: been good, and for me that's been hard. Part of
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: the hardest part obviously, you know, the cornerbacks are gonna
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: beat that's fine. The safeties they don't look like they're
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: giving any effort, and Cisco look kind of slow compared
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: to what we've seen him do before. It's funny, and
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I know people have said that about Josh kind of
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: bulking up too. They don't have that speed burst that
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: we saw at times last year, and I don't know
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: if that's purposeful or it.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Does not look like a fast defense.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Which is what they kind of Obviously they've had issues.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: The secondaries had issues both years, but at least last
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: year you could force turnovers. For the first half of
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: the season, they haven't been able to do that. So
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: now it's just like these long processions.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Dropped interception and now he made a very nice breakup
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: on the Polk play.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Yep, right before was that right before Parker's kick?
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a very nice place.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: That's the tackling look you're gonna have. They have tackled poorly,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna have some mistackles. But his effort wasn't great.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: And I can't I can't comment on his effort because
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: I didn't get to watch the tape. But that's disappointing.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: And I trust you because you do watch the tape.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: And obviously KAI saw it live. I did not notice
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: that live. I was in shock that somehow Josh Allen
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: was I thought it was so late dropping. I'm like,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: oh my goodness. Anyway, that's ridiculous. That makes no sense
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: to me. It makes more sense now Treyvon said he
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: made a mistake, so obviously there was a mix up.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: I think one of the things that is plagued this
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: defense of guys getting lined up correctly and doing their
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: job correctly. So that's concerning because again, the Patriots are
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: a bad offense. So I just want to say this,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: they're the worst offense in the NFL. So I am
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: really happy we won that game. But boyl boy, you
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: gotta clean that stuff up because here comes Green Bay,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: who is not the worst offense in the NFL. I
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: don't know where they're ranked. I haven't watched any tape,
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: but that is you gotta clean that stuff up. It
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: goes back to and we talked about this in the pregame,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: UH in the broadcast, and I said it like the
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: key of the game, like before you can start, before
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: you can start worrying about winning, like stop beating yourself.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Like the first thing you do is you don't beat yourself.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: It's hard to win in the NFL. It's impossible if
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: you're beating yourself. And so that's got to get cleaned up.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: UH.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Coming in down the stretch. You have a tough stretch
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: of four games starting with Green Bay here and they
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: don't and you know, I believe they're off today because
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: of the travel. I believe they're in tomorrow. And you
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: got to have really good work on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: getting ready for this Sunday game. It's a big game
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: because if you get to three and five, it's different,
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: it's a different feeling.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: That, yeah, you start feeling a little better about yourself
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: and maybe gain some momentum. You're right, I mean a
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Luakan they say might be back this week.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: I think he's it's possible. I haven't heard anything.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: They have made They haven't made him available. I mean,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: they haven't opened the window they yet.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: He traveled with the team and obviously he was working,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: rehabbing and whatnot.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: But I think he's back. He starts starts with him Miller.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: You can't take Ventral Miller off the field. He's your
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: best linebacker.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I'm with you.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: I think he has to stay on the field.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I'm curious if they will that.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: That is why that's interesting, is because you're admitting a mistake.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Then forget about the mistake, Tony.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: We're in the same ballpark. You're preaching to the choir.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, but you know how you know how this
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: league works.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know good teams do, Pete. They put
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: the best players in the field. They put the guys
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: will give you the best chance of winning. And right now,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: your best linebacker is Ventro Miller. I don't care where
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: he was drafted. I don't care where everyone else is drafted.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: I don't care what picks you trained to pick other people.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: I don't care what you're paying other people. Vent Trel
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Miller is your best linebacker.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: And and so what do you do with Lloyd? Let
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: him rotate? In with the hockey players.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Put him at Sam. I think he's a Sam. Anyways,
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: he's a strong he's a strong line linebacker. That's what
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: he is.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: And sit Mouma down.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: That's what you do.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: That would started on My starting lineup would be Ventre
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: uh Foyer, figure out who's Mike, Who's well, I don't
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: care whatever the other one does. Whatever each one does better.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Foyer can play both. He's smart, he's I'm not saying
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: the other guys are dombe, but Foyer is one of
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: the smartest players in the league. And then put put
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: put Devin Lloyd at Sam. That's what he played. He
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: was on the line linebacker, and call like put him there.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: He's long, he's physical.
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: I think he plays and he's terrible in coverage.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: He plays the run. He plays the run well.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: He hadn't kids plays to run really well.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: But he's terrible in coverage.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: And he did a good job in the run against
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: the Patriots.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: That means he's only on the field.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: What Okay, put your best players out there, or at
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: least the guy's playing the.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Best right now. The choir is exactly what I would do.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: It's not that hard, peat, it's not Let's not make
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: this more complicated. Let's not get into who got draft.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: And where and we traded.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: I don't I'm paying this guy this and stop. Who
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: cares that? Will?
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: I guarantee you there's somebody in that building that will
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: do that.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: You know, the only thing that matters. So we talk
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: like analytics are a big deal, though, aren't they. There's
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: more analytics out there, and they're valuable and they tell
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: you a lot and you learn a lot from analytics.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you the most important analytics in the NFL.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: It's called wins and losses because they tell you who
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: you are, and that determines people's jobs at the end
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: of the year, and that determines if you get a
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: chance to play for the Lombardi Trophy. All that matters.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: You can you can talk about analytics until you're blue
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: in the face. And I think they're important. I think
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: we should take advantage of it and understand it and
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: make decisions and learn from it and all that. I
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: love it. I love what But let me tell you
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: the most important and the only one that mattered, and
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: it should influence every desci decision you make in an organization,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: from how you travel, how you practice, who you sign,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: what you do, what you eat, where you sleep, what
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: your everything is. Wins and losses, Whatever gives you the
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: best chance of winning. That's who you put on the field,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: that nothing else else. I don't care when you drafted them,
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: I don't care how much money you paid them, if
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: you made a mistake, whatever, it's over. Who gives you
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: the best chance of winning. That's it.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Wins and losses. And you know what else wins and
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: losses does? It tells you you're getting flexed or flexed
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: out of Sunday Night football.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: We're all getting our Sunday evening back.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, weeks ago, that's I.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Told you guys, we're gonna flexed. Yeah, it's been back
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: to back years we've been flexing Sunday Night. As someone
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: who loves this order, I believe we got flex last.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Year too play Sunday Night.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: The Ravens played, They played the ravensday.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: I thought we got.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Flexed later before we had completely faun apart.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Now we were.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: We played.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Actually the Sunday Night game is the number one seed
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: in the that's.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Right, we're talking about it. Buy at that point, Well,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: do we have to.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: Talk this year? I don't like that. It's not a
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: good look. You don't want to be flexed. That means
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: you're not a good team.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Never.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: All right, we're heading into break. We'll talk a little
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: bit of more, got some coaching advice for both Tony
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: and Pete, and we'll talk a little bit more about
• 42:18
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• 42:30
  Speaker 3: To go back to the decision.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, I was riding the momentum of what we
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: were doing leading up to that point. Our offensive line
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: was was really you know, taking control of the game
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: at that point, and I felt like just putting it
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: in their hands one more time, getting the first down
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: right there and potentially you know, ice the game at
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: that point. But they went down, scored, we get the
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: ball back, and you still got to play football, and.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: That's this is just a message.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: You still got to continue to play, and we were
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: able to do that.
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• 43:04
  Speaker 2: was riding the momentum. Tony Beselli said he would ride
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: the momentum. This is this is amidst all the run
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: plays back to back to back to back.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Yep, I admitted I was wrong.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: And they didn't convert. I mean, if they convert, we
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: never talked about it.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: But that's why Pete would have talked about it. Still,
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: that's his credit. He would have He's consistent.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Is that an analytics thing or is that just Doug
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: being Doug.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: That's just Doug being Doug. Because the analytics will tell
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: you to kick the field goal.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: You always go up three possessions.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, if it's in the if it's in the
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: first half or whatever.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe, but in that situation, you have to go up
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: three because are they even gonna Are they even going
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: to get three possessions the rest of the game?
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Probably not.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think he made a major mistake there,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: and and and I think if he pinned him down
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: on it, he would admit he made a mistake.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: I did. I made a mistake, not that I had
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: anything to do with them, but I didn go for it.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Well, that's why you should never have a damn headset
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: on your head.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: No, that's not true, Pete. There's probably other reasons I shouldn't,
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: but that's not the one of them.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: That's not the key one.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: There's more important ones than that.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: You know, somebody needs to talk him down sometimes, that's
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: that's part of the problem.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: He needs a guy, said that, Tony. I've said that
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: for years. They need to have an analytics guy standing
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: right next to him saying, don't do it, do not
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: do it, don't do it, Doug.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: You know who makes you know who else in the
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: NFL makes calls like that sometimes?
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Who's this?
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Probably the guy coaching the best team in the NFL,
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Dan Campbell.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: And here's the thing about Dan Campbell doing it.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: You don't need to do it anymore.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: No he doesn't. But that's who.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Well he didn't, then they didn't go to the super
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Bowl too.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, right, he cost him a chance to go
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: to the super Bowl because of.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: His I'm not saying right or wrong, but I'm just saying,
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: that's another guy who does it. So I'm saying Doug's
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: not the only coach here.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: And here's the thing.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: When you're a young team coming up like the Lions,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: the coach needs to do things like that, to try
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: and instill some culture and some belief and everything. When
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: you're good team like the Lions.
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: You don't need to do it.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: That guy faked the punt his own end last night
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: yesterday on the twenty something yard line and he got
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: stuffed and they got a touchdown two plays later.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: You don't do You don't need to do that, and
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: they still won.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, pretty easily good.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: They're really good. Just to clean something up. Obviously, guys
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: were right. We did not get flex last year. I
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: was thinking of. I was thinking of twenty eighteen after
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: we had a really good twenty seventeen. It was the
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: first Sunday night game we'd had in a long time,
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: and we got flexed in eighteen, so.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: We've been doing good. We had all those primetime games
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: last year, one this year, all of them, all of them.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: You know what they need to do on Thursday night football, everyone.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Pretty much everyone.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Has except for us Monday Monday and then you get
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: their two London games, so technically national.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: We're not going to say that I do not consider
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: London games national.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Well, last year when last time we had Monday night football,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: when I got here, people I said something on Monday Football,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Monday Night Football, and they were like, oh, we've never
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: like we don't have it. I'm like, oh, we we.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Used to all the time.
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: You get they should tell NBC.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Look, if you're gonna put us on Sunday Night Football,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: make sure it's like in the first month, then we
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: can't mess it up.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: We can't get flexed. Yeah that's fair enough. Yeah, it's
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: just it's disappointing getting flexed. I just hate it because
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: it's just it's it's a down, or because it just
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: kind of speaks to the season you're having. I mean,
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: it's not the end of the world or anything. I mean,
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: go win, go.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: In, go in, go win four in a row and
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: maybe you'll get something flex back in. Yeah.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go win four and oh you're six and five.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: My goodness, that would change a lot of things. Interesting.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: We love a comeback story. Everybody does.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Let's go, let's get let's get it. Are you locking it?
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: You're gonna lock to that?
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not. And I do want to apologize for the
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: double lock.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Wells Kay's fault. She double lock. My single locks are
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: never wrong. Kai screwed it up.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: It was all my fun, all right.
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: When we come back.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: We'll talk are another victory Monday for Jaguars Happy Hour
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: and thanks for joining us in the Jaguars Digital Network today.
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: With us, they were in basically cover four quarters look
• 47:16
  Speaker 8: and safeties were low, and that was honestly the look
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: we were wanting for that play, and we had another
• 47:23
  Speaker 8: option if that wasn't the coverage and the situation. But
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: Brian did a great job of just running at the corner,
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: keeping outside leverage and just running and then I'd put
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: it out there and let him go make a players
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: a great catch. You know, he's he's good. He's been
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: making a lot of plays for us, so it's it's
• 47:39
  Speaker 8: fun to watch him. It's fun to play with them
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: and just to see him get better every week. We
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: got to keep using them.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Welcome back into our second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour.
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• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Happy Hour, Jaguar's got to win this. Another victory Monday
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: for them, a win over the Patriots in their second
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: game in London. So they're coming back from London one
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: and one and Trevor Lawrence right there talking about his
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: throw to Brian Thomas Junior over the middle, which was
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: the prettiest throw I've seen in quite some time from him.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Just a great connection between both of them and only
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: a couple of games so far the season, so yeah.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: And that's that's one of those. That's one of those
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: examples of everyone on the play doing a great job,
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: including Gonzalez.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: The corner, who's amazing. So that even better because he
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: played it perfectly as well.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: So it was great protection, great play call, so they
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: got the right play call, off play action pass, good
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: job up front, great job by Trevor recognizing the coverage
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: and making it just a perfect throw. The athletic ability
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: in the route by Brian Thomas Junior outstanding. It was
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: really good coverage and you watch that in slow motion,
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: like the fact that Gonzales his arms right there and
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: the concentration by Brian to bring it in with a
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: perfect throw. It was just one of those rare football
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: plays like if you're Christian Gonzalez. It's like I made
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: everything he could. I it's a perfect throw against a
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: really good young receiver. It's really fast, and I made
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: a play on the ball. I just missed it by
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: an inch. Brian made a better play because he had
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: better He had great concentration looking all the way in
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: with the It was just it was a really it
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: was a great play and a great play call. And
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: I give a lot of credit to Trevor and Brian
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: for executing.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Well done and executing it is one thing.
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: But the best part about that is calling it.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Are you complimenting the play calling?
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I am I know I got a whole list of
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: critical critical play calling over here, But.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: People, what did you not like about the play calling?
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Except for the fourth down? I thought the play calling
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: was outstanding on Sunday probably.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Let me let me see, No, the runs are fine.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I like the runs. I didn't have any problem with that.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: What about when they.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: Went back to bubbles?
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I know it was it.
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: Was no, it was it was bubble screen to the left.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Yep, it was bubble screen to the left to the
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: Brian Thomas, then bubble screen, and then.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: It was a reverse to Brian Thomas and then it
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: was another bubble screen to Evan Ingram, four straight plays.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought it was bubble reverse
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: written down somewhere in here.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: I thought it was bubble reverse bubbles what I thought it.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Was when the game there was four?
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: No, there was four of them? Was it really four?
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Yes? And it made me puke. I'm watching that, I'm like,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: what is this garbage?
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: I don't remember. I thought it was third quarter?
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: It was, and I wrote it down to where did
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: I put it?
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: It doesn't count beat. If you can't remember it, you're out.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: You can't criticize it. You don't have it, You're you're
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: You're like a mad scientist. You can't find his notes.
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: Well, because I got notes on everything.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: He's very well researched. We'll give him that.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Very very disorganized though.
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: No, but I because I have notes on other stuff.
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: I'm organized.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: No, there's don't give any credits this organization. Poor professional
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: third quarter, third quarter, bubble screen.
• 51:29
  Speaker 9: To Thomas, bubblescreen, bubble screen left to Thomas, bubble screen
• 51:36
  Speaker 9: right to Thomas, reverse to Thomas, bubble to Ingram.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Poor straight You see that guy on the place.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: They liked it. They like to look it's awful. Now
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: in fairness depressed.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, fairness, they picked up one first down with it.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: What else Trevor Lawrence bailed him out on the second
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: little grouping over there because he uh, he had to
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: scramble for whatever yards he scrambled for on that one play.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: But one of the just so you know, one of
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: those bubbles was not called. It was checked too, because, uh,
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: the Jaguars offense had the Patriots out leveraged with trips
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: and that I believe that's the one Brian Thomas got
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: the first down, so they they had out leveraged the
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Patriots defense. Hold on, they finished, let me finish. A
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: different play was called. Trevor at the line of scrimm
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: is checked to it. So that's not on press. That's
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: a check by the quarterback based on a look.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: It was success.
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: Is it a run pass option? Is that what it is?
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: No, he checked at the line of scrimmage. He saw something.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: They had a look where they had out leveraged the defense.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it looked like so they some of those
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: are run pass options.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: I'm sure there's no doubt about that.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: But I think anyway, the reverses, those little those reverses.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Gotta stopped to just throw the ball down the field.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: You got a big arm quarterback and he a wide receiver,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: runs like a gazelle throwing the damn ball down the field.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: He does, My goodness, and the fact that.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: He could run the way he runs.
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: Kirk's play were I think, you know, God, you said that.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Was such a beautiful throw, and it was a beautiful
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: throw to to Brian Thomas.
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: The throw to Kirk was phenomenal.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: From a quarter pill. Yes. Yeah, we had to put
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: that perfectly over the linebacker and put it in a
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: spot where the safety can't come up and blast him.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Those open up because Thomas has the ability to go
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: down the field and Tony.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Well the other way. To be clear, the other reason
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: that opened up it was off play action fake It
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: held the linebackers long enough to create the space.
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: I get it, but they hadn't they hadn't really run
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: the ball.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: But the action held them.
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, I agree with you.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: You can use play action if you can if you
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: do get the run game going. I liked play action,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: but shots with play action I like that, And and
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: you know what they ran into, you know, in another thing,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: I'll give him credit for I'm gonna give another more credit.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I'm giving them credit. Why ripping them for the four?
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: This is good. I like this positive with not.
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: A bunched up formation on the goal line.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you like that spread. Look I wanted them to
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: get up under center and.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Just pound like an offensive lineman.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: That's all that is?
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: Well okay, at least I'm honest. Yes, you're right, that's
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: what I wanted to do. I'm not saying, but can
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: they do that with the personality? Have no but pete
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: in fairness, that's how everyone used to do it. More
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: people do it the way you like it.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: I see more people in shotguns spread out on first
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: and goal from the one than I do getting up
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: in big people.
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, it's getting that way, but it's
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: still not.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: This team doesn't do it enough. I don't think. I think,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: considering the troubles they've had in short yardist situations, they
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: should do it more.
• 54:51
  Speaker 10: Fair And you know one other thing you mentioned earlier, Tony,
• 54:55
  Speaker 10: the fielding to punt inside the five that has become
• 54:59
  Speaker 10: an epid demic in the NFL.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: Remember it used to be you put your heels on
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: the ten.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let it go everybody's fielding punts inside the inside
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: the ten and even at the five. You know the Packers.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: When you watch the tape of the Packers next week,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: they did it. Romeo Dobbs fielded up No, no, the
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: other kid, the slot corner fielded a punt. The slot
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: receiver fielded a punt at the three yard line three yesterday.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: But when he fielded it and it was like an
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: over the shoulder ketch him was because it was a
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: boomy punt. Yeah, and like so his his momentum was
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: taking him in the wrong direction.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what is he doing?
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: And it went and then halfway through him, like thank goodness.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: Actually wasn't over the shoulder, but.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: It was this is this is I mean this one
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: he I don't when you look at this one and
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: you say, okay, why is he fielding it there?
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: He feeled that because he saw that it was a
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: giant hole right in front of him.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Were the Patriots playing with eight guys on the field
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: because no one even got near them. No, it was
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: so well blocked. But those are.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: But it also goes to this part of the equation,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: why the hell did you spend all that money on
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Devin DuVernay. Anything, give me something on that they knew
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: they had this kid and he was a returner.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they trust I don't think the
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: trust is there. I think the trust is there.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: Do they trust him?
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Now? That's how you find returners. You draft them, develop them,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: and trust them. Here's here's where I think this came
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: into play. Ready, you know what I think. I think
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: they overthought it. And here's why. I think they thought.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: If they get Dubernay, they're gonna be ahead of the
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: curve on the kickoff rules, and we're gonna have two
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: guys and we're gonna set the trend and this and
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: this and this and everything else, and the reality is
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: all anybody does on those kickoffs boom.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: I think they definitely overestimated. I don't know if just
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: the Dagwars, but I think everybody kind of did what
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: this kick was gonna do.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: I know the thinking of that. I know the thinking.
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: That's what that.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Thinking had to be, because there's no way you're giving
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: if you knew this kid could do with that, and
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: we saw glimming.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: Little or you saw in the preseason. You saw the
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: great kickoff return the first preseason.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Because he was doing all the kickoff the preseason.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: So bottom line is they wasted the money on Devin
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: dover Day.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: How much are they paying, Pete.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: I remember it's like two years and like eight million,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: eight and a half million or something like that.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: So too much four year?
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no bang for the buck.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: We don't know that yet. He had a great return,
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: had a great return in the gameturner.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: You don't pay a returner.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: They paid him in today's money, not a lot of money, Pete.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: And he had by the hand sitting on the bench.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, but dun is a good return and he helped
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: us win the game against the Colts with a great return.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: That's set up a touchdown returner.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: You were so negative, Pete. We won the day game.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: We got a couple of compliments.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, we've been so negative on this show because
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: they deserved it. Like now you're still attacking, give me
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: a blank.
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: I'm a realist. Somebody's got to bring some levity to
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: the program.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: When you're waving your bomp bombs.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: Up levity, Well, there's a difference between realism and levity.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: If you're lefty means you're joking, joking. There's no joking
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: with you. You're serious, Pete.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: You like him as a returner, and you talk about
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Kirk being available if someone calls about it. Do you
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: feel like Parker can fill that role right now?
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Yes? I do.
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Look, he's not going to be Christian Kirk. But if
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: somebody makes an offer to you it's desperate for a
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: wide receiver.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Well, it depends. Tell me what happens this week first, guys,
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: can we like it like we won a game? If
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: we win this week, let's wait.
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but Tony always got to be prepared for every scenario.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm prepared, but I'm trying to like hang in
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: there because it's been a miserable year so far, and
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: trying to hang in there that we can find a
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: way to beat the Pas, A good team. Yeah, I
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: think I'm trying to do. I'm not saying, Pete, I
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: agree with you. If you lose this week, the phone's
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: ring and I'm listening. But until then, I'm holding off,
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: unless obviously, if someone comes off.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: What do you listen? What are you listening to? You
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: getting calls for what? I don't know? You got something
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: to tell us?
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: No, I'm saying I was I was speaking to what
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: you were saying.
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: Are you leaving the program on us?
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: What do you know?
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: I'm not going anywhere. I'm saying. I'm going back to
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: what you said. If people call you, listen, if you
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: lose this game. That's what we said the last hour.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: Am I not right? Am I wrong about that?
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: By the way, Jacksonville, leave me alone. I know nothing.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: So that's all I'm gonna say on that.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: Can me too? You drug me into this, Pete.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: I didn't drag anybody into anything.
• 59:51
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Somebody made a fake d M or something and I
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: had nothing to be out of it. I think it's
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: you know what I really believe that is.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: I think that's.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Wishful thinking on a lot of people's parts. I'll be
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: honest with you.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about the Jags, big victory, Green Bay. We got,
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  Speaker 3: we know what we need to do. What are we
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  Speaker 3: keeping it real?
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  Speaker 2: We're keeping it real very soon shortly eventually, remember going
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  Speaker 2: to keep it real about you know what?
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  Speaker 3: Offensive line? The offensive line played great, Walker Little played great.
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  Speaker 3: Mitch Morris, who's been their best offensive line, and at
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: his worst.
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  Speaker 1: Game Cleveland was okay, not great, and he had a
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  Speaker 1: couple of like on the fourth on the fourth and
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  Speaker 1: one was ugly, fourth one abused. One of those plays,
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  Speaker 1: sherif some good moments of bad moments, and I thought
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  Speaker 1: Harrison was actually pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I saw live and I saw the
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  Speaker 3: replay of the Cleveland play on the fourth and one.
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  Speaker 3: I looked at Logavan and I said, I've been there before.
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  Speaker 3: That's one of those plays. When it happens, you're like,
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  Speaker 3: I hope that play gets cut out of the film
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  Speaker 3: because I don't want to watch that ever again. It's like,
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  Speaker 3: there's certain plays as an offensive lineman, and anyone who's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: played the position, anyone the greatest, the guys in the
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, to guys who get one, you know,
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  Speaker 3: play just one season. If you've ever played the position,
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  Speaker 3: I don't care who you are. You've been in a
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  Speaker 3: situation where you have a play in a game and
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  Speaker 3: the first thought is you're like, oh no, that's on tape.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to ever see that again because it's
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  Speaker 3: just a bad play. You're at a position, maybe get
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  Speaker 3: too high, you get pushed. It's just it's miserable. And
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  Speaker 3: I think Ezra Cleveland's played playing good football this year.
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  Speaker 1: And he had a good game in a lot of areas.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, And I watched him in the run game. They
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  Speaker 3: ran left into it behind him and Luke. I mean.
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  Speaker 5: They did a great job on their doubles.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, doubles. You thought we didn't hear that changed it
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  Speaker 3: to Walker. But here's the other thing. Tony and he
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: had some great polls. On the touchdown, he had a
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  Speaker 3: great poll I mean so, but that was a bad one.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of them though, like on that. I think
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  Speaker 1: it was on the fourth down run, the third down run.
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  Speaker 1: The same thing shows up that we get annoyed about.
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  Speaker 5: Anton has to.
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  Speaker 1: Watch on his man's watching his guy. Remember his guy
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  Speaker 1: came down the line and kind of got the legs
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  Speaker 1: of the guy as he on the back before he
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  Speaker 1: can really get going.
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  Speaker 5: They gotta they gotta be careful of that.
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  Speaker 3: They do that a lot buying tickets. Can we I'm
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  Speaker 3: keeping it real, can we? Cause we uh, let's talk
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  Speaker 3: about the Green Bay game. I want to hear from.
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  Speaker 2: You, Pete, because you want producer over here.
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  Speaker 3: I'm asking you want I've watched a little bit. I've
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  Speaker 3: not watched the tape. You watch a lot more of
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: these teams. You know, week in and week out, how
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  Speaker 3: does this team how do because we haven't beat a
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  Speaker 3: We beat the Colts, but by three they were beat up.
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  Speaker 3: But this is We're playing a good football team this week. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: playoff caliber team.
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  Speaker 1: Pete.
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  Speaker 3: What does this team need to do to be We.
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  Speaker 2: Are going to do that after the break round absolutely
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  Speaker 2: around the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour and victory Monday,
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  Speaker 2: will keep it real, send it by mister Chubby's wings.
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  Speaker 8: Again.
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  Speaker 4: We got in a situation where we were down, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we were down ten, but but nobody was like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: here we go again, or defeated or you know, had
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  Speaker 4: negative thoughts. It was just just one play at a
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  Speaker 4: time or work ourselves back in it. And and offense
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  Speaker 4: went out and we we showed the complimentary aspect of
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  Speaker 4: the game today, you know, in all three phases.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what it.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it. You know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm uh the spark that you know, hopefully we can
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  Speaker 4: get this thing going.
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  Speaker 2: to keep it real at your request today, We're going
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  Speaker 2: to keep it real about this game against the Packers.
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  Speaker 1: Pete.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with you because I know you watch
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  Speaker 2: all the league, all the games. Is it realistic if
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  Speaker 2: this team doesn't make mistakes? Can they beat the Packers
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  Speaker 2: this coming week?
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  Speaker 1: Well, they better be better on the back end defending
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  Speaker 1: the pass. This is a good pass offense, and I
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: don't we haven't still haven't seen the best of it
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  Speaker 1: yet because Jordan Love was coming off that knee injury
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  Speaker 1: and for a couple of weeks he was kind of
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: dragging a little bit. But you're starting to see little
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  Speaker 1: bits and pieces where he looks like Jordan Love again
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  Speaker 1: from last year. And they have good receivers. Christian Watson
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  Speaker 1: can fly and much like I talked to you guys
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  Speaker 1: about Brian Thomas clearing out with his ability to get deep,
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  Speaker 1: that's what Christian Watson does to their offense. And then
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  Speaker 1: they have so many guys underneath, and they have good
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  Speaker 1: tight ends. I mean they can catch the ball and
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  Speaker 1: catch the ball in the passing game as well, So
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a real and Jacob's runs hard.
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  Speaker 5: It's gonna be.
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  Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs is a good back and they got a
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  Speaker 3: good offensive line, so that this rush defense, who's done
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  Speaker 3: pretty good for the most part of stopping the run,
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  Speaker 3: especially this past Sunday they dominated, It's gonna be tested.
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  Speaker 3: And my fear is if the Packers get the run
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  Speaker 3: past like two things going, I think it's not gonna
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  Speaker 3: be good.
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  Speaker 5: It could be, it could be, it could get loose.
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  Speaker 1: That game can get high sched.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what I'm worried about because we have not
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  Speaker 3: like even if you look at the Patriots game, we
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  Speaker 3: didn't consistently rush Drake may He had too much time,
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  Speaker 3: especially early in that game. And that's an awful offensive line.
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  Speaker 3: This is a good offensive line, better receivers, better quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: and if they get the run like that's my biggest concern.
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  Speaker 3: If we I think you have to make him long
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  Speaker 3: dimension one dimension, you have to get him third long situations,
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  Speaker 3: and you have to get off the field. This team
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: has not being able to get off the field. We
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  Speaker 3: don't get turnovers, we don't get up on third down
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  Speaker 3: very well, especially early so that needs to change. And
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  Speaker 3: then offensively, Pete the Packers defense, I don't know much
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  Speaker 3: about them.
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  Speaker 5: They hadn't been up until they.
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  Speaker 3: Got a lot of pressure last week in CJ. Stroud.
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  Speaker 1: What were they doing?
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  Speaker 3: Were they blitzing or they just rushing forth?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, they got after them.
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  Speaker 1: The Texas had problems with their offensive line on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: and I haven't watched that tape yet, but it looked
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  Speaker 1: like on the TV when I was watching it they
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  Speaker 1: were And that had been a criticism of the Packers
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  Speaker 1: up until that point. That the pass rushers Rashaun Gary
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  Speaker 1: and Preston Smith and those guys, Yeah they're good players,
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  Speaker 1: but they hadn't been winning.
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  Speaker 5: That started to come together.
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  Speaker 1: Having Alexander back at corner helps at you know, because
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  Speaker 1: it makes them slow down the reads and you can't
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  Speaker 1: get the ball out. So it helped the pass rush.
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  Speaker 1: But that's a good defense. They have some young players.
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  Speaker 1: Evan Williams of safety on the back end is a
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  Speaker 1: really good rookie safety from Oregon's good player.
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  Speaker 5: They're athletic, they can run, they you know. And then
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  Speaker 5: they saw some veterans.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's some veterans on the you know, like
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned Presto Smith, Kenny Clark, get guys up front,
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  Speaker 1: they could get after it.
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  Speaker 5: So it's gonna be a challenge for that offense. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: there's no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for them to win this week, Guy,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna stop the pack the Packers.
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  Speaker 3: I think the Packers are gonna like I think this,
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  Speaker 3: And if you look at and Doug said something aout
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: complamentary football as we came out of the last break,
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  Speaker 3: and I agree with them. But what kicked off that
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: complmentary football. It was the offense. It was Trevor, it
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  Speaker 3: was Brian Thomas Junior, was Tank Bigsby was that offensive line,
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  Speaker 3: and I think the offensive line for the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the year. If they want to get on any kind
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  Speaker 3: of run and start stacking wins, I think it has
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  Speaker 3: to be the offense. I think the offense has to
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  Speaker 3: come out fast. I actually would take the ball first
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  Speaker 3: almost because this we give up more points.
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  Speaker 2: You're steven.
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  Speaker 3: We give up more points than any other team in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL, and the opening drives of games more than
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  Speaker 3: anybody defensively. So let's take the ball first and see
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  Speaker 3: if we can get that fast start. And get going
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  Speaker 3: and set the tone. And I think this is one
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  Speaker 3: of those games, guys, that we're gonna have to win.
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  Speaker 3: Thirty one to twenty eight, twenty eight, twenty four. I
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  Speaker 3: mean it's gonna be in the high twenties, low thirties.
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  Speaker 3: And offensively, I think the onus is on them because Pete,
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  Speaker 3: I just don't see us getting enough pressure. And then
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  Speaker 3: you have a good offense line with a really good
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  Speaker 3: back in Josh Jacobs who is a power back downhill, physical.
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  Speaker 1: And if they get and good receivers.
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  Speaker 3: And if they get it going, like I just I
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  Speaker 3: don't see us getting a bunch of stops and so
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: got to get a turnover here there, that'd be nice.
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  Speaker 3: But I think the onus is on the offense this week.
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  Speaker 3: The offense has to start fast and come out and
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  Speaker 3: saying we're gonna be in a heavyweight fight. Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: It is on our backs and defensive, give us a
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  Speaker 3: couple steal possession, get a turnover, give us a couple
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  Speaker 3: of stops, and let us go to work. I think
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  Speaker 3: I would take the ball first. I think this week
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  Speaker 3: I would play.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would take arm I would make Armstead start
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  Speaker 1: at defensive three. Technique. If you look at the Packers
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  Speaker 1: defensive offensive line, the center is just okay and the
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: right guard is just okay. That's that's the week.
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  Speaker 3: That's the weekly. Yeah, okay. I haven't watched the tape,
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  Speaker 3: so I'm looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 1: But it tackles a really good player, and the left
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: tackle has is okay. The left guard is really good. Jenkin,
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  Speaker 1: Elton Jenkins, you remember him. He's a good, very good player.
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  Speaker 3: And this is what I mean. Pete, uh, Doug Peterson's
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: talked about it. You know, we're two and five. We've
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  Speaker 3: won two of the last three. Now, you could argue
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: we beat a winning team in the Colts there four
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  Speaker 3: and three. However, that may be the.
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  Speaker 1: First four and three team I've ever seen, by the way.
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  Speaker 5: I'm serious.
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  Speaker 3: They just got flex the Sunday night, Bete, they're going.
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  Speaker 1: I know, but they lost. They beat the Dolphins barely
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: by That team with the Huntley went out and they
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: played the backup quarterback and held on for dear life.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: It's not a good team.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, this is like, if you want to
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  Speaker 3: start stacking them, you better get it here because like
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: it does not get easier. You got to go to Philly,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: which is a tough place to play. Now, the Phillies
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: beat up a little bit on the offensive line. But
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: then you got the Vikings, who were you know, we're
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: beating the Lions early.
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  Speaker 5: And what's the four games? The four game stretches brut.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, listen to this. Three of the four against the
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  Speaker 3: best division in football, the NFC North. So you got
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: this week the Packers at home. Then you go to
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: the I believe, the leading NFC East team, The Eagles
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: have the best record in the NFC East, first place Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: They're tied with the Washington Okay, but.
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  Speaker 3: They're tied for first right. Then you go come home
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: to this King Vikings, who are a five win team.
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  Speaker 3: Then you go to Detroit, who I think is the
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: best team in the NFL. Like if the Detroit Lions
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  Speaker 3: are paying the Chiefs, I'm picking the Lions.
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  Speaker 1: I'm without without Hutchinson, I am they better go get
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  Speaker 1: They should go get Max Crosby.
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  Speaker 3: Well, there's a chance before we play them, they're gonna
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: have traded for a pass rusher. Whether I don't think,
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Think that shows up. Believe me, that shows up. It
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  Speaker 1: showed up in a big way.
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  Speaker 3: I get that. But I don't think they get Crosby.
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  Speaker 3: I think they go get.
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  Speaker 1: Smith.
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  Speaker 3: I think they get Zadarius Smith from Cleveland.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not good enough.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: But can they afford Crosby? Can they fit him in
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: the cap?
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: If you're all in this team, is this team?
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  Speaker 5: You're right?
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: This team can win a Super Bowl year. He'll get Crosby.
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  Speaker 3: I would listen if they can fit it, because I
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: do believe this is the best team in football. And
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: if you get with a pass rusher, and if you
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: can afford cap wise, go give a second rounder and
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  Speaker 3: go get Crosby, because I think you can get him
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  Speaker 3: for a second rounder.
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  Speaker 1: I would. I would do that. And it's because you
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: had to give up one and you think you're gonna
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: be good late one. Go get him for that too.
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  Speaker 3: You noticed Crosby set out this week, and that guy
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: doesn't sit out for anything.
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  Speaker 5: And you know what else he did? No, he played
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: this week?
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  Speaker 3: Oh did the end up? He did, but he didn't
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: practice all week.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: Sorry, you know what he did?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: He didn't practice all week. But they came out.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: He said he's open to be a Drade because he's
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: going to be a part of the rebuild.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly right. He wants out.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: I can't play Detroit.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: I get him and make it happen, because with him
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: they can win a super Bowl. If they don't get
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: a guy like Crosby, they're not winning a super Bowl.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: They're good on offense, so my goodness.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they've made they've They've made Jared Goff into
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: the big time, big time MVP Candidy.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: They got two start backs, they got an offensive line.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, they are good. Now, here's the funny thing
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: about the NFL. Though we are saying this right now,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: but the league is funny. And I'm not wishing this
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: on anybody, but every team, every team is one or
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: two key injuries away from being very average. That's that's
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: the sad part. But that's the beauty of the NFL
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: because you don't know until you get to December.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: It's a survival test making that far and playing your
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: best football at the right time.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: Right now, they're the best team, But in my.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Opinion, the Chiefs are the best team. I don't think
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: so that defense is dark good Ton. I know they
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: look ordinary on Sunday well.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: But they were also without Trent Williams got ejected, which
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: both guys should have got both guys. Both guys should
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: have got ejected. Ayuk blues the out. They don't have
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: Christoph McCaffrey.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: He played, I know, but up until this point he's
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: played pretty good football without those guys. Samuel was sick.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: He didn't play Samuel's I mean they were without their
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Come on, I mean, let's not make too much out
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: of them beaten.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: And you know they hadn't run the ball. The same
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: offensive line was there. They couldn't run ball.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying the Chiefs aren't good.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs are impresive at this point because
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: they can always find a way no matter what.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: The fact that what's crazy about the Chiefs and we
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: don't play them, which I'm happy about, is Patrick Mahomes
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: has six touchdowns and eight interceptions and and they're undefeated.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: That's amazing.
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  Speaker 5: But you know what he can do if he needs
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: to go get one.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: He that's the like this is and this is the
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: next evolution that Trevor needs to take. When you have
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: the ball in the fourth quarter and you have to
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: go score, everyone in the stadium has to know you're
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: gonna go score. Like there's certain guys in this league,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: like with like two or three minutes and you're like, oh,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: they're going to go score. They're like, Mahomes, you can
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: gotta go score. Josh Allen, He's gonna go find a
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  Speaker 3: way to score. I mean, there's certain guys. The Detroit
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  Speaker 3: him great. Did he end up with over one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and fifty passeray again?
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  Speaker 1: No, but he's but he's his stats are amazing. He's
• 1:15:03
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  Speaker 1: three point five in the last four games, which is
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: the highest ever. I mean, he's it's incredible. Do you
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: realize he has They have scored more touchdowns and he
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: has incompletions in the last four games.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's unbelievable.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Sixteen They fixed him. Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, What about that guy?
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: Give him credit. That's the quarterback coach. Give Mark a
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: lot of credits.
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  Speaker 5: Job with the quarterback too. I mean, look, Mark's a
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: good quarterbacks coach.
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  Speaker 2: A bunch of love to go around.
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  Speaker 3: It goes back to keeping it real. This is the
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: opportunity against a very good Packers team. Come into town
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: where I want to win.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: You're legitimate win this.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: It changes the entire narrative of this season. It doesn't
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: mean you're back in it, but you are now different.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: It's different. It feels different going to Philly. It feels
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: different in the division, it feels different in the city.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: It feels different in this building. And I think this
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: is an opportunity because I think it's gonna have to
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: be the offense. I hope the defense plays better. I
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: hope they clean things up. I hope they get up
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: the field. I don't have a lot of confidence right now.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: That means offensively, Trevor. That line bigsby Brian Thomas Ingram
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: and it starts with Trevor. This is the opportunity. Go
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: take it to them and say, Hey, as an offense,
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  Speaker 3: we're putting this team on our back this week. We
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: know we're playing against another good offense. We are gonna
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: go score, We're gonna get into the thirties, and in
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: the fourth quarter when we have the ball, we're gonna
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: make the plays. Then it's gonna take the win. That's
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: what we need to see this week, and that's what I.
• 1:16:49
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  Speaker 2: about LSU wide receiver University Pete. Is Brian Thomas Junior
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: the best wide receiver in this class?
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: No, but he's close.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 5: His former teammate is the best wide receiver in this class.
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  Speaker 2: Could he be by the end of this year considering
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  Speaker 2: the quarterbacks?
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  Speaker 1: Could he be by the end of his career. Absolutely.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it'll happen this year, but he
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: could be.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think let's let's delineate between the best receiver
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: in the best numbers. I could see Brian Thomas Junior
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: putting up better numbers than the Molik Neighbors because of
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: the quarterback he's dealing with.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: But I think.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: Neighbors was hurt. But based on when both had been
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: on the field, it'd be as much as I love
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Jr. And I do think he has the
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: potential to be one of the best receivers in the
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: I mean really good receiver in this league and upper echelon,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: I think it would be unfair and we'd be forgetting
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: what Neighbors did the first four weeks when he was healthy.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 5: Not only that Neighbors was a better receiver at LSU.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: He was and so like, here's the thing, better than Harrison. Yes,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: right now and he will be. Look when he came out.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: I one thing about Marvin Harrison that bothered me is
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: there's no real suddenness to his game. Brian Thomas and
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: elite neighbors have suddenness. It matters, you know, and and
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: so donsay in Chicago. He doesn't have real suddenness either.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: That's the difference between Brian. I think Brian Thomas is
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: going to be one of the best receivers in the NFL.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: I think he's a real, true alpha number one receiver.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: If Brian Thomas to do that, he needs to continue
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: to work, and he should. He's a rookie, so I'm
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: not true. He continues his route running routes and is
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: in cleaning up and becoming even a better route runner.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: Like I saw something, And I don't know if you're
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: gonna get to this question or not. So if I'm
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: stealing your thunder, kaya forgive me.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you if we have it.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: The questions coming in is was is Brian Thomas Junior
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: the second best receiver in the history of this franchise?
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, did you forget about a guy named
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: Keenan McCardell.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: I think you're going off potential and there, but I'm like,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: you don't.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: That's like, like Jimmy.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: Smith is fifteen receivers and yards and catches and catches
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: and yards.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that people like to get excited about
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: things best drafted a receiver.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: Hold on time out. I don't like doing this to
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: young players, and we do that too often here, Like everyone,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: pump your brakes. Brian Thomas Junior is a heck of
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: a football player and is having a great rookie year
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: and has all kinds of potential, has skill, a skill
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: set that is rare. He can go get it, he
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: can run by people, and he's good when the ball's
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: in the air, no doubt about it. Like he is,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: he has a chance to be special. But please don't
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: even put him in the same sentence as Jimmy Smith
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: at this point. Jimmy Smith arguably should be in the
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. If you go watch him, and if
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: you go talk to any Hall of Fame corner who
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: had to play against Jimmy Smith, they didn't want to
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: lined up against him that day because that's how good
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: Jimmy Smith was. And Keenamar Cardell was an absolute beast
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: and one of the best receivers in an era. When
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: you went across the middle, you took your life in
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: your own hands. And he went across the middle and
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: played the middle of the field as well as anybody.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: And as Pete said, is a top fifteen like all time,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: like yards or near there and so.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Tony, But to Cau's point, he will be
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: the best drafted wide receiver in team history.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that. I'm not sufted, so I'm not
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: saying he's not.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: The bar, like he's so low on that I can
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: jump in the.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: Purse of the position for so long. Remember it started
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: with R. J. Sower.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: I get that, but bar, But here's what I don't like.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: We do this too often in this organization, too much pressure.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: The guy has played seven games, he is outstanding. Enjoy it, celebrated.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: What a great rookie year, what a great pick. I'm
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: glad he's on our team. What a good job getting
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: him late in the mid mid to late of the
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: first round. Love every aspect of it. But don't start
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: at like, don't start saying Jimmy Smith, Keenan McCardell, like no.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: No, does he have the tools?
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: Yes, high percent. I love Brian Thomas jet It is
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: so fun to watch him. I want us to throw
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: deep to him like five times a game because he
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: just runs by people and for somehow, some way, even
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: when he's covered, he comes down with it.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 5: But if he runs deep four or five times, that's
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: four or five times. They can't run a bubble screen.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: Here we go. But you know what I'm saying, Let's
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: celebrate what he's done so far, but let's not.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Start all right, We'll pump the brakes, but.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: We do, Pete, do you see you see what I'm saying, Pete,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: I know exactly what you said. But in terms of
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: being he has the ability to be into that class.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think it's exciting.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: Great As yesterday on one of our shows, I said,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: there are elite receivers in this league like Jamar Chase
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: and Jefferson and those guys. If he continues to do
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: what he what I think he can do, he could
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: be in that class.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: He's like, he can has a chance to be special.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, no doubt about it.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: And I love it. I absolutely love it. And he
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: is the best tracted receiver I've seen in this franchise.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: That's not saying, but but he's done it for seven games.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: Let's keep it going. I mean he is, and I do,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: and I think what Pete said, what a great job.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: Because he was the fourth receiver taking off the board,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: and there was talk should this team trade up to
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: go get one of those top three guys which I
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: was a top three which I was never for no
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: chance know how would have done that. But when they made.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 5: The wide receivers to go, and he goes.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: And he goes, and he has his speak fast, he
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: has a gear that most guys don't have. And right now, ironically,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: the two best young receivers of this class both played
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: together last year. It's Malik Neighbors and Brian Thomas Junior.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: Both are with Jade Daniels, with Jane Daniels.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: How they how they lost the game? I have no
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: They can't stop.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 5: That couldn't stop anybody.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: Even though they had the two defensive tackles that Jacksonville had,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: they couldn't stop anybody.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's unreal. So love it. Great seven game stretch,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: his yards per catch, the numbers he's putting up. Love it,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: every bit of it. I just don't like. I see
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: questions like, is he better than Keenan marcrdell?
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: No, not yet, Yes, cans that didn't have.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: Does he have a skill set that Keenan never had
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: because Brian was born with it? Yes, was.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: Keenan was one of the best route runners in the
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: NFL has ever seen.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Keenan. I don't know what he ran,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: but it was. It wasn't super fast, but somehow that
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: dude got open and got behind guys and made catches
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: and played the game like in a manner like. And
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: I'm biased because Keenan McCardell is one of my favorite
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: teammates I've ever played with. Because Keenan McCardell is the
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: toughest football player I've ever played with. And he's a
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: wide receiver. And I've never seen I've never seen someone
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: practice as hard as Keith Marcadell. I've never seen someone
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: study the game like Keenan McCardell. I've never seen someone
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: who loved football like Keenan McCardell. And I've never seen
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: a guy who would sacrifice everything for his team like
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: Kean McCarthy.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 8: He was.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: This is a guy who played the week after getting
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: a Grade three AC joint separation, was told to be
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: out four to six weeks, played the next week. By
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: the way, this is a guy in the playoffs that.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 5: Broke, guys that cover.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, one of my all time favorite guys that cover,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: and he needs to be in the ring of all.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: He should be. I love it. And he's a guy
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: in a playoff game. Broke his wrist against the Patriots
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: and was going to be out for obviously broken wrists
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: like broke broke and said, I'm playing against the Jets
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: next week. I'm like, there's no chance you're playing. Didn't
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: practice all week non contact, He ran through the routes,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: put a cast on, and had like ten catches against
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: the Jets in a playoff game with a cast. The
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: dude was like an animal, an animal.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: And he should still be in the building, by the way.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: And by the way, one of the best receiver coaches
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: in this league.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 5: Yes, that's what I mean. You should still be in
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: the building.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: And I'm not taking anything away from Chad Hall. He's
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: our coach. I'm glad he's here. He's a good football coach.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, and I think now you can argue
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: this that Brian Thomas Junior is the third best receiver
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: in this You can argue that. You could argue that
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: all day long, and I don't have a great argument
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: against this.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: All Right, all right, we're keeping it positive. We beat
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: a bad New England team. How much good can we
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: take from this game moving forward, given who that opponent was. Tony,
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: you talked about the offense getting going. What are some
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: of the good things that you saw in.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: Your run game? You got the run game going. I
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: think the offensive line is a group that's played starting
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: with Houston and since then has played really good football,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: really good football, and his physical They ran the ball.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: I thought Walker Little was outstanding and and I like
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: that they gave the ball to Tank Bigsby twenty six times.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: I think that is a recipe for success. Run the
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: ball with Bigsby, play action pass, take your shots down
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: the middle of the field. Trevor's playing good. It helps
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: the line protect. You don't have to drop back as much.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: It takes the pressure off that line, especially against some
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: good pass rushers. It wears defenses out and allows you
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: to dictate the tempo and the pace and your will
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. That's how I think this team
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: should play. And it does another thing that we needed
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: to It keeps our defense on the sideline. They had
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: long drives from the second quarter on except for the
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: bomb to Brian Thomas Jr. And the putt return. Were
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: the defense that to go right back out there. And
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: the defense did better in the second in the last
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: three quarters, but you look at the second half, that
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: defense wasn't on the field very much because they ran
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: it and they eight clock and a combination of controlling
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: the clock, running the ball, play action, pass, big shots.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: You have a big play receiver and Brian Thomas Jr.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: That's the recipe in my opinion, of how you need
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: to play because of all the things I said, And
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: keeps your defense on the sideline. The defense is struggling
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: right now to get off the field. And so the
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: best way sometimes play good defenses is don't let the
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: other offense on the field.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: Let's score points. There we go.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: Well, you got, I mean, you gotta score points. You
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: got and you got you gotta make you gotta take
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: seven not three?
• 1:28:55
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  Speaker 2: you hopefully should beat, but a win against the Packers
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: would go a long way. Pete, when we're looking at
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: a team like Green Bay coming in, what did you
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  Speaker 2: see from them last week and what are we going
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  Speaker 2: to see this week.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they got all over c J.
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  Speaker 1: Stroud. They limited him throwing the football, I mean, and
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: they didn't play very well with the Texans. And look,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: we know they can score then we know the Texans
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: can score points. But I think he threw under one
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  Speaker 1: hundred yards on Sunday and it wasn't just him.
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  Speaker 5: They don't have Nico Collins, so that changed the way
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  Speaker 5: they play him.
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  Speaker 1: But Green Bay is good. They're talented at a lot
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  Speaker 1: of spots, important spots, and like I said earlier, I
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: think the pass rush has.
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  Speaker 5: Been a problem for him.
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  Speaker 1: But they're gonna score points on Jacksonville. So Jacksonville better
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  Speaker 1: be ready to go get points of their own. And
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  Speaker 1: Tony's right, it's going to be. It's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: higher scoring game. And I think that's going it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be the it needs to be the Trevor Lawrence thrown
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  Speaker 1: a round game where Thomas gets one hundred and twenty
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: in a touch you know that kind of game. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's what it needs to be for Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 3: Well, here's the number, CJ show only twenty one attempts,
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  Speaker 3: eighty six yards, no touchdowns, no interception, sacked four four times.
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  Speaker 3: That means they dropped back twenty five times. I actually
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: had five rushes, so they dropped back thirty times. But
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  Speaker 3: let me tell you the formula. Pete Joe Joe Mixon
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  Speaker 3: twenty five carries one hundred and fifteen yards a tank.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go, let's get tank going. They had thirty three
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: rushers for one forty two four point three yards a carry.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's the formula. I'm not saying I agree
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  Speaker 3: that they.
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  Speaker 5: Need because they're not great against the run either.
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  Speaker 1: They're not.
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  Speaker 3: They need to take shots down the field, no doubt
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: about it. But it needs to be set up by
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: running the ball, play action, pass, run it. Keep that
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  Speaker 3: offense that Packers offense on the sideline. I think that
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: if you do that.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't score points, you're gonna pay for it.
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  Speaker 1: I do. That's a theory to you. If you run
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: the ball and control the clock and go get a
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: field goal, they go get a touchdown seven to three,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: you go get your control.
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  Speaker 5: O'clock gets fourteen to six.
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  Speaker 3: You have to you have to make you have to
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: score touchdowns. You can't kick field goals, so you have
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: to be good in the red zone. Pete's exactly right.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 3: I just worry. I just worry about our defense because
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: our defense hasn't done anything to me that gives you
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: confidence that can get off the field.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: And it's the time of possession for me too. We've
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: talked about this. Obviously. They're on the field so much
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: that even if the offense is doing well, they're out
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: of rhythm because it's been ten minutes since they had
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: the football.
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  Speaker 3: Like literally in the first quarter Sunday, it was eleven
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  Speaker 3: and a half minutes to three and a half, nineteen
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  Speaker 3: plays the five place. I mean, the Jack said you can't,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: and I said it on the broadcast, you can. If
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: you're an offensive player, you're sitting there on the sidelines.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: You get no rhythm. You're like getting cold, Like I
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: gotta go warm up, I need a stretch again, Like
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: get off the field.
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  Speaker 1: Well. And if you're a Green Bay, save your good
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: play for the fourth, good place for fourth, five and six,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: because you know you'll be playing the backups by that.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: Here we go, Pete in the hockey lineup change.
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  Speaker 5: It just infuriates me.
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  Speaker 1: I just can't understand it, and I don't think I'm
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: the only one I know.
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  Speaker 5: You've said it too, But does anybody else say it?
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 5: Does log him and say it.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they do. I just think you need your best players,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: especially when you're a struggling defense. You need your best
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: players on the field. There's certain guys I wouldn't take
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: off unless they're just gas gassed. Trayvon Walker, Josh heinz Allen.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't take Ventrel Miller off. He's he runs and hits,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: and I'm not saying he's great in coverage. But you
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: know what, tell me.
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  Speaker 5: The line coverage once he learns at a drop.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: But Pete, here's the thing. Tell me the linebacker we
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: have who's good in.
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  Speaker 1: Coverage, because Steven Lloyd's terrible in coverage.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: So put Ventrail out there. Get Eric Armistead every third down. Hey,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: you're playing three technique, or rush the passer or start
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: him there. I'm not I'm actually ok Pete in base personnel.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: If you don't want to play Eric Armistead inside, like,
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: make him a sub player. Sixty seventy percent of the
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: players are in sub anyway, So put him out there
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: and Nickel it's fine. I'm okay with that.
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  Speaker 1: Hamilton I would play the like Hamilton's good in the
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: run game, he looked, you know, Tony the other day,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: he looked almost back to being what he was.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: I hope that's right, But you sign you signed Graziano.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: He's a serviceable guy in first and second down if
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: you need to give those guys a blow.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: Can Mason Smith get back in the next year. We
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: didn't see him suit up last game.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: It doesn't sound like. I mean, he's been inactive for
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: two games, healthy and active this year at a seven.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: He hasn't popped on film. He's gonna have to go
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: earn it. I don't know what's going on. I don't.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's a reason he's not out there. He's
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: a second round pick. You need production out of him,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: and he's not giving you the production.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 5: The knock on him coming out of LSU was did
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 5: he love it?
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: I mean that was you know, he had the.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 5: Major knee injury early.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: And was on the way you know he has he has.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, and I love the kid, don't get
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: me wrong. He was on my better than day. I
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: thought he was gonna be his big time player or steal.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: I still do think he has the potential, but you
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: can't if you.
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  Speaker 5: Don't love it. I don't care how much much potential
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 5: you have.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: It's not going to work.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's draft and develop. We're gonna have to develop
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: that one for sure. We're keeping an eye on this
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: throughout the week and kind of see if he's going
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: to be active this week. But going into it, we
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: know the Jags.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 5: You know what, guy, here's what would bother me if
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: I were him?
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  Speaker 3: What's that.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: Your guy drafted behind you? Your former teammate was active
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: and you weren't.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: How do you look on tape? And I think it's.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: It's okay, I mean, yeah, nothing great.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: They're just I think they're really I mean again with
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: the switching. They're really committed with the moving everybody back
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: and forth, because then they get Lacy up and Ota
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: maywell every other.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: Maywe was not even active. I thought he they loved him.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: Lacey wasn't great on Sunday. I don't understand.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: They have a real infatuation with lady and they're going
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: to keep rotating until someone kind of makes them stop.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, rotation hockey rotations, as Pete loves to.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 5: Said, over the wall, get over the ice, get on
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 5: the ice. Too many men on the ice penalty.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: All right, we got predictions for this game coming up.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not locking anything, and I apologize for the double lock,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: but I don't want to hear what these fellows think
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: will happen this week.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: I know Pete, like screen Bay, you know, I'm I
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: picked the jags every week, you do, you know my
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: confidence if I lock it. I'm not locking it, but
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: I'm picking the jacks all right.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: But you know what if we put them on a
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: log detector right now, that thing would go nuts, and
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: picking picking Jackson it would go so they'd have to
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: go get a new one.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: It would be Let's say, what's who playing Monday nights?
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: And I haven't paying attention. I've been on games games.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: What's this two game Monday night thing?
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: I can't like it, to be honest, I like it
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: because then if one's bad, you can switch the other one.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: For both are good? Ky be positive?
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: All right, Ravens Bucks, that could be very.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: Good, be a great game, and that's a great game
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: that could be.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 5: That could be a high school Chargers Cardinals game.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: Charge Cardinals does not interest me. I'll be watching Ravens.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 5: It is the Chargers because the Chargers actually played. Remember
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 5: then went to Denver and beat up the Broncos last week.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: All right, thirty seconds, give me your quick pick.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: I got Chargers will beat the Cardinals. They're more physical team.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: I think they win. I'm gonna go Bucks. I think
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: the Beatos are sneak too. I think they get a
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: win against the Ravens.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: All right, thanks, gentlemen, thank you for letting me sit
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  Speaker 2: in for JP Shadwick. He'll be back on Thursday. He'll
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: be back next Monday. I appreciate you all, all, everybody
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes, thanks for joining us on Happy Hour.