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Indigenous Voice to Parliament. I have a few concerns. · The Slippery Slope

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All right, jack Fallon. Thanks for listening to the
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slippery slope. So listen, this is been getting
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around for a wall of, kind of tried to steer.
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Clear of what's been going on in a little dubious about the whole
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topic to be honest. But today I'm going to talk a
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little bit about the voice. Obviously, we've got this
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referendum coming up to change our constitution.
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I've got a few concerns. Okay, a few concerns now 41.
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I'm just, personally, I'm not particularly sure.
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I need someone who's supposedly from my community representing
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me a look at who the voice says? These are the people that will
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represent me and I'm like, yeah, I'm a little uncomfortable with
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that. I just don't think it's my
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initial thoughts were, this is not needed.
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People have someone like Anthony Albanese e now maybe it's just
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because I'm a little cynical. Don't particularly trust the
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government that much but of Anthony Albanese e and someone
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like Lisa Wilkinson standing. In front of me, telling me, I
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need the voice. The Voice will be good for me.
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I would instinctively instinctively turn around
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because I think someone's about to come over and clap.
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Clap me in the back of the head. They tell me I need something.
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I think he I don't need it, obviously, because whatever.
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They're telling me I need, I probably need exactly the
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opposite. I have zero trust for these
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types of people. Okay.
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When someone on the left side of politics like that, you know,
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probably from the ABC or Channel, 10 is sitting there
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saying all you need this. This will be good for you as an
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indigenous Australian. I'm like, yeah, I'm waiting for
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the I'm waiting for the punch in the back of the head.
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Like I said, don't trust it but it doesn't mean you don't look
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into it and find out for yourself.
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So look, I'm just going to share with you a few of my concerns.
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Tell me what you reckon. Now, this is doesn't mean that
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I'm Completely closed off to the to the voice.
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I'm not going to talk about, you know, the Constitution, all that
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stuff. But just go through a few
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points. So, here it is.
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This is from the website voice dot gov dot.
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Are you so chapter 9 recognition of Aboriginal and Torres?
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Strait Islander peoples 129 Aboriginal and tones.
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Torres Strait Islander voice in recognition, people's, as the
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first peoples of Australia. There shall be a body to be
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called the Aboriginal Torres. Strait Islander voice, The
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Voice, May make representations to the Parliament and the
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executive government of the Commonwealth.
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Health on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres.
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Strait Islander peoples. So just straight up, there's
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something that really concerns me, but I will keep going the
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parliament Shell subject to the Constitution have power to make
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laws, with respect to matters relating, to the average,
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Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander voice, including the
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composition functions powers and procedures.
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This is what is the voice. It's a giving advice to
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Parliament and government. The voice of make
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representations to the Parliament and the executive on
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matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres.
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Strait Islander peoples. The voice would be able to make
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representations proactively. The voice would be able to
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respond to requests for representation from the
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Parliament and the executive government.
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The voice would have his own resources, the parliaments and
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executive government should seek representations in writing from
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The Voice early in the day. Development of proposed laws and
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policies. The Voice will be chosen by
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Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander People based on the
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wishes of local communities. Members of The Voice would be
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selected by Aboriginal and Torres.
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Strait Islander communities. Not appointed by the executive
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members would serve on the voice for a fixed period of time to
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install a regular accountability to the communities to ensure
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cultural legitimacy the way that members of the boys would be
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chosen would suit the wishes of local communities and would be
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determined through the post referendum process.
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The voice will be representative of Aboriginal Torres Strait
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Islander communities, gender, balanced, and include youth.
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Members of The Voice would be Aboriginal and Torres Strait
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Island according to the standard three-part test.
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Aboriginal and Torres Strait Island according to the
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three-part test. you know, in this day and age, when When
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we're all looking at, we live in a society where we don't even
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know, we cannot even describe what a woman is.
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We can't all agree. This is what a woman even
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though. But thousand of you thousands of
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years, Everyone is always known. This is a woman that this is a
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man Throughout Generations, you've always had a few people
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that, you know, want to play dress-ups want to put on makeup.
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Want to do things. Want to pretend want to behave,
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like they're not but yet they still new.
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Still knew everyone stool understood that they were that
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particular biological sex generally accepted known as a
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fact that you cannot actually change sex but now we live in
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this in this era. As of about five minutes ago,
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where people do not know and they cannot describe what a
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woman is. And this is part of a bigger
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part of a bigger problem, but one issue with this nice, being
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able to understand what a woman is.
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And if you sit in the ganje, what's all this got to do with
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the indigenous issue. We twist words, we twist the
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meanings around now that you can say anything and it can mean
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whatever you. Want, I can say anything now and
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people need to accept what I say as my truth, it mightn't be
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factual but it's my truth. So when it comes to When it
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comes to this issue with with the voice I'll go back over
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water says so. The voice would make
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representations to the parliament on matters relating
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to Aboriginal and Islander, and Torres.
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Strait Islander people. So, how we gonna decide who are
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Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people and their
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members of The Voice would be Aboriginal and Torres.
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Strait Islander people according to the standard three-part test.
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So, what is the standard three-part test?
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If you look that up, the three-part test formulated in
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the 1980s to Herman the Aboriginal and Torres Strait all
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the states has of individuals. It requires individuals to have
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biological descent from an indigenous Australian to
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self-identify and to be accepted by the indigenous community.
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So, in other words, you I'll bring this up so you can
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actually see So, you can actually see what I'm saying
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here. Here you go.
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Individuals biological descent. So you have to have you have to
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be able to prove that you're the biological descendants of
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indigenous. People, I would suggest that we
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need to go down the road of DNA testing.
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The only partly because I've seen so many people who I know
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and not indigenous, okay? And yet they claim to be, they
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claim to be the ticker box if it's just to get free free.
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Being some kind of benefits, they'll tick that box.
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And yep. Yep, that's me.
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They got no idea. They die, they're not actually
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indigenous, they've never identified as indigenous.
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They don't even live in the community where supposedly their
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indigenous Heritage comes from. But yet they just tell you, you
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have to accept it. And then they get, they get free
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Something Free. I won't say too much because
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people get in trouble. Anyway, so I think they need to
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have DNA testing, you need to self-identify.
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Pompey in a shouldn't be as my cousin says, we now have all
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these what she calls our eyes recent identifiers.
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You know, all the all these, all these people who when they were
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kids, no one identified as being on indigenous because there was
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no benefit to it. There was no, you know, there
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was no proud badge of honor to saying that your indigenous.
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So no one claimed it. But now that's kind of the cool
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thing to do everyone claims. Yeah, I'm indigenous just found
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out last week. My great-great-great-grandfather
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was as I had someone try to tell me.
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A lady tried to tell me that her.
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Her grandfather's brother was indigenous, which so her
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great-uncle was indigenous somehow that made her
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indigenous. I tried to point out that if she
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was indigenous it would have to be her grandfather.
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And that maybe her grandfather's brother was indigenous because
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he had a different father, Which would mean that she's not
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indigenous, she couldn't see the logic in that.
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But anyway, in her little mind, she was indigenous.
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So you need to be self-identify and you need to be, this is very
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important. You need to be accepted in the
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Indigenous Community. The issue is we live in a
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society where you can say, you are absolutely anything.
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Like I said, I can grow my beard out as long and as wide as I
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can. you know, I can Put on a dress, put on a bit of makeup.
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Leave the beard. If I tell you, I am a woman.
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You have to accept that I'm a woman.
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If saying Jay, that's crazy. Obviously, just because you say,
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it doesn't mean it's true. Well, I'll remind you of this
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little I'll remind you of this little nugget here.
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I did a story on it. The other week, this is our
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current, their current Minister for women in Queensland.
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She's also now the Attorney General of Queensland Shannon
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sentiment, I'm not going to play the clip because if you listen
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to her voice it'll just make you dumber.
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Anyway, left-leaning Australian labor party member and current
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attorney general of Queensland and Minister for women.
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Shannon Fenton recently told a reporter that anyone identifying
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as a woman is a woman, She did, she attempted to defend her
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unscientific position by bringing up inclusivity as a
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social justice issue? So this is, this is the issue
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that I have. We've thumb.
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With the voice. We go back.
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The voice is making representation on behalf of
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Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.
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And the voice is also having supposed Torres Strait
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Aboriginal Torres. Strait Islander, people
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representing these communities but we now live in a society
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where people can just say they are even though people can just
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say they are anything and we are all have to accept what they
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say. Now, you might say again.
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Okay, okay, so this is where societies going when it's women,
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when it's men saying that their women was women saying, their
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men, even though they're about to give birth and they sit there
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saying, well, I am a man. Well, no, you're not.
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Let's bring up something that happened in Victoria.
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This is a little while ago, but my issues is a few of these
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kinds of people getting around who say they are indigenous.
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Personally, I think they're fakes, I think they're Liars.
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Okay, if yeah, and I'm going to bring this one up because to me,
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it's obviously not true but this was This just no shame, no shame
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at all in. What this woman did bring up
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here, so you can share this one as well.
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The name Lauren. Lauren O'Dwyer, she was breaking
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trying to be an MP. Wanted to be an MP in the
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Victorian Parliament. There's here.
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If you're watching this on YouTube, whatever you can see it
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is her. They're very white, very red
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hair. I do remember when I was reading
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Captain Cook's Memoirs. He said, on page 3, how he was
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surprised, how many indigenous people in Australia?
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Were very Caucasian looking with red hair running around with
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their laptops and Spears. JK anyway so she a relative she
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claims to be your to your total woman.
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Your tea wore your to You Oughta.
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Remember three points you have to have biological sister has to
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be something in your DNA. You have to be able to prove.
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You're a direct descendant. You have to also identify.
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I would I would I would be willing to bet that no time,
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during her school years. Did she ever identify as being
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indigenous? No way when she was younger,
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when it wasn't cool to be a memory.
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Be Aboriginal I won't say Marie because that's a Queensland
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anyway when she when she was when she was in school, she
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wouldn't have said it, it wasn't cool back then but now when it
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suits her, now, now, now she's average on So and obviously and
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also she doesn't know anything about the community.
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This she's supposedly from. Let's have a little listen to
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the video that she puts out and then we'll talk about the
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article. I'm learning a lot.
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Higher labor for Richmond. I'm a lesbian single mom.
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A renter director in the Arts footage.
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Yeah, she's a lesbian single, mum, lesbian, single mom, and
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Aboriginal woman, as you can see there.
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See that. Beautiful.
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Anyway, keep going. And the crowd, You're The Other
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Woman Lauren I do iron. Agathe yada yada yada Indian
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army, Europe woman, and mother and I am the Labour candidate
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for Richmond in the upcoming state election
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because just as a further north, Earth.
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Further north the country where she's never actually been to
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every once little because there's something here.
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I think it's very important that she says is well just as our
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language here that just as their language has been stolen from
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us, as has my color hair. Color was stolen from her,
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apparently, you order your to woman and that is how we
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continue to move towards reconciliation in this graph.
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Yeah, anyway, she claims to be Original clients be indigenous.
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She's saying that her colors been stolen from her as his
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language because obviously she knows people looking at her
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saying they probably actually looking at her pants saying is
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her pants on fire because I'm pretty sure I can see some smoke
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coming out there and they because she's hot.
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So anyway, let's go through this article relative from the
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Victorian, Labour candidate who described herself as a proud you
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order. Your woman has said her family
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has no indigenous ancestry and is never 0.
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Identified as Aboriginal. So Lauren she was running for
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election. Battleground seat of Richmond
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Melbourne's in a North Because that's where all the, that's
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where all the or all the reason identifies.
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They all come from. You know, in a Melbourne in a
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Sydney Anyway, it's a whole different thing.
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So, the ABC understands Ms o. Dwyer said her indigenous
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Heritage comes from great-grandfather.
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Graham Berry however, mr. Berry's daughter.
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So they describe it as mr. Barry's daughter.
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So obviously, it's not, it's not o'dwyer's.
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Grandmother must be either, what is?
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It must be her great-aunt, by the way who daughter his
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daughter? Says, it's told the IBC her
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father was not Aboriginal, and never identified a bird as
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Aboriginal. However, further down here in
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this article, so the premier so she is obviously disputed.
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This she disputed in spot statement provided and she
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disputed the allegations saying I know who I am and I'm proud of
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my Heritage even though she's not so she's just flat out lying
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here, she is dealing with Dan Andrews.
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When asked about the issue on Monday, Dan Andrews had cultural
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identity was a complex matter and Mrs. O'Dwyer had made her
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position, clear. Now, going back to the voice,
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The Voice has what the three parts standard?
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Remember standard three parts standard.
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You have to have biological descent self-identify and be
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accepted in your community. According to Dan Andrews.
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It's a it's a complex matter. It doesn't seem that complex.
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You have to have three things that line up, three facts, that
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line up your DNA. You need to be able to prove
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biological descent need to be able to be accepted in the
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community where you say, you come from a come from the
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whitsundays. I'm accepted, I'm known I'm no
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mother's name grandma's name, great-great-grandmother's known,
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that's the way it works. Because you are what, you know,
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you are in the community. Knows what you are because they
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all accept you and they acknowledge who you are, where
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your family comes from. Indisposed to self-identify but
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then see doesn't seem that complicated.
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According to Dan Andrews cultural identified entity is a
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complex matter Lauren has made her statements and I would
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direct you to those. I'm not going to speak for her
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it's not appropriate that's the matter for her identity and
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she's been very very clear Getting back, getting back to
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the voice. Now they say they want this
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three-part standard, they say that again have representatives
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from indigenous communities and they're going to be representing
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indigenous communities putting forward.
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Putting forward representations that are good for indigenous
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communities. But we now live in a society
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where no one where people can say whatever they want and we're
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supposed to just accept it. I don't I don't like the voice
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but how about how vague it is? Anyone that you they, they may
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have their little three-part. If this is the three-part
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identifier until someone and I bought it laurentide, why?
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Because she is the most obvious, but there's plenty of people
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getting around at the moment that I see on the news.
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And you sit there, going that make you are.
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Please sit down. Please sit down.
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You Just a pretender. You are just a pretender, you
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can sit back and look and say, well, yeah, about ten
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Generations ago, we think this person might have been
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indigenous. So that makes me Aboriginal.
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I'm the original Aboriginal, sorry, it doesn't. however, In
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this current environment. If you say that your Aboriginal,
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if you say your tire Strait Islander Everyone else is
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supposed to just accept it. Regardless of this three-point
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identifier will have people like Dan Andrews standing up and
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saying, well, it's a complex issue.
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They've said that that's what they are.
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We just need to accept it and the voice will end up getting
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hijacked. Can I just say something about
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this Lauren? I would Y and other people
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getting around on the news that stating their indigenous when
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obviously they aren't. I worked in communities a lot
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more intolerant than the area that on from, okay?
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And if you were up there, Flora no Dwyer was in some of these
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other communities indigenous communities and swarmed around
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saying that she Is a proud your to your to woman, you know, look
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at me she would get a spear in the leg and rightly deserved.
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I don't like the voice because of its how vague it is in its
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descriptions. That's just part of it, part of
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the issue. We're describing these
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indigenous, you know, who was representing and it's
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representing indigenous people. It's It's just way too vague.
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I don't like it. I don't particularly think we
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need it. I don't want someone like
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Olivia. Thorpe representing me.
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It's one thing to have them, you know, getting voted in coming
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out and saying, well yeah, I'm going to represent the community
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of the whitsundays and running for election and getting voted
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in. These people aren't going to be
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voted in, there's going to be put forward by the community,
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you're going to have some families in some communities
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that are going to be able to control who the representatives
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are, because they are the biggest families in that area.
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I don't like it. It's too vague.
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I think it'll be open to corruption.
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And I, as I said, I don't want people, like Lydia Thor, boar.
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Or heaven forbid. What's the name Lauren?
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I'd wire the the the very pale redheaded.
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Black woman representing me saying.
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Yeah, I represent. I represent those people from
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the whitsundays. Look at me.
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No. Don't like it.
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Not going to vote for it. That's just my opinion, but It's
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a no for me just just from a just from a brief.
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Look through too many issues. That's my opinion.
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Thanks for listening to the slippery slope.