Latest / Foul Territory / Red Sox sign Roman Anthony to $130mil extension, Mariners getting STRONGER, Yankees code red
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, it keeps back goodness. See guy, how you doing.
- 0:04Speaker 1: You're holding down Chicago.
- 0:05Speaker 2: I am beautiful Chicago summer.
- 0:08Speaker 1: It is it really is.
- 0:11Speaker 2: I missed you.
- 0:11Speaker 3: Guys.
- 0:12Speaker 2: You don't write you'll all.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Actually we talk every day on this show and sometimes
- 0:18Speaker 1: we mentioned you that we miss you. Oh it's about
- 0:21Speaker 1: the best we can do. Yeah. Someone got paid though,
- 0:24Speaker 1: and it's breaking news basically right off the jump. So
- 0:27Speaker 1: instead of lollygagging, I'm just gonna throw right to it.
- 0:31Speaker 1: So let's hit it minutes before the show. Someone gets
- 0:34Speaker 1: paid and we're talking about it ft breaking news. Roman
- 0:42Speaker 1: Anthony finalizing a contract with the Boston Red Sox. It's
- 0:45Speaker 1: an extension. He's under team control for a while, but
- 0:48Speaker 1: now he's going to get one hundred and thirty dollars.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Breaking news from Jeff Passon eight years, one thirty mil
- 0:54Speaker 1: on a contract extension and passed and said the deal
- 0:57Speaker 1: is pending a physical, includes a club option. It's going
- 1:00Speaker 1: to keep Roman Anthony under team control through wait for it,
- 1:04Speaker 1: twenty thirty four. His deal with the Red Sox will
- 1:07Speaker 1: start in twenty twenty six, so starting next year. It
- 1:09Speaker 1: includes significant escalators. It could take the maximum value of
- 1:12Speaker 1: the deal to two hundred and thirty million dollars depending
- 1:15Speaker 1: on where he finishes an ale Rookiet the Year voting,
- 1:17Speaker 1: It would buy out either three or four years of
- 1:21Speaker 1: free agency. That's based on that whole rule that goes
- 1:24Speaker 1: down now with service time. If you finish high up
- 1:27Speaker 1: in some of the awards like Rookie of the Year. AJ,
- 1:30Speaker 1: your thoughts, I love it.
- 1:33Speaker 3: I love it for both sides. If they think he's
- 1:35Speaker 3: a dude. And listen, how do you tell a twenty
- 1:37Speaker 3: two he's twenty two? Right, twenty two year old kid,
- 1:39Speaker 3: don't take one hundred and thirty could be two hundred
- 1:42Speaker 3: and thirty million. Sign me up. That's what I thought
- 1:46Speaker 3: I agreed to with foul Territory, but Scott took all
- 1:48Speaker 3: the money, so I get two hundred and thirty pesos
- 1:51Speaker 3: per year.
- 1:52Speaker 1: That's because you're wrong, AJ. He's twenty one. He doesn't
- 1:54Speaker 1: turn twenty two until next May. That's how damn young
- 1:58Speaker 1: he is. And now he's super rich.
- 2:00Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, are you kidding me? This kid? He's
- 2:02Speaker 3: from South Florida. He's gonna be down there. She show
- 2:05Speaker 3: hanging out a kIPS restaurant trying to get free meals
- 2:07Speaker 3: and Kip's gonna say, I saw what you signed for.
- 2:09Speaker 3: You're gonna have to pay for that drink. So let's
- 2:11Speaker 3: be serious here for a second.
- 2:12Speaker 2: Nobody, He's not gonna be a discount.
- 2:16Speaker 3: Nobody on Earth Okay, I don't care who you are.
- 2:19Speaker 3: Nobody on Earth would say at twenty one years old, hey,
- 2:23Speaker 3: here's one hundred and thirty could be two hundred and
- 2:25Speaker 3: thirty million. They're gonna be like, let me see, I
- 2:28Speaker 3: could cost myself maybe seven to ten million. No, I'm
- 2:31Speaker 3: not gonna take that. Oh crap, everyone on Earth should
- 2:34Speaker 3: take this. That's stupid thinking.
- 2:37Speaker 1: Just just to clarify AJ seven to ten million per season,
- 2:40Speaker 1: not overall. I mean, he could make hundreds of millions
- 2:43Speaker 1: of dollars. I get it. I'm just clarifying.
- 2:45Speaker 3: He'll be twenty nine when this gets done, twenty nine
- 2:49Speaker 3: to thirty. He'll he can sign another five year deal
- 2:51Speaker 3: at the end. So come on, yeah, Like, no, nobody
- 2:53Speaker 3: at this twenty one if you had to come to
- 2:55Speaker 3: Kip at twenty one, he's still at Arizona State under
- 2:57Speaker 3: Murph you know, eating pocket pancakes. You know, I was
- 3:00Speaker 3: in Triple A in the big leagues. If they would
- 3:02Speaker 3: have come to me and said, hey, here's an eight
- 3:03Speaker 3: year deal. It could have been for eight million. I
- 3:05Speaker 3: would have been like, yeah, I'll take it.
- 3:09Speaker 2: I think it's a win win. This is we were
- 3:11Speaker 2: talking about a little bit off air. That's kind of
- 3:12Speaker 2: what Cleveland used to do. We're signing the guys a
- 3:15Speaker 2: little bit younger. You're getting a little discount. They get
- 3:17Speaker 2: the security. He gets to go out and play now
- 3:19Speaker 2: and not worry about that anymore. And like, ag, you
- 3:22Speaker 2: just said he's gonna be thirty. He's gonna be able
- 3:24Speaker 2: to sign another big one too. So now he just
- 3:27Speaker 2: he just cashed out some he's guaranteed to make all
- 3:30Speaker 2: that money now, which is awesome. Congratulations to him. And
- 3:33Speaker 2: he gets to go and have some freedom and just
- 3:34Speaker 2: go play loose now, which is great. And Boston gets
- 3:37Speaker 2: a discount probably assuming everything pans out.
- 3:41Speaker 1: Yeah, they get to lock in some of their youngsters. Hey,
- 3:43Speaker 1: let's not forget one of the contract extensions that they
- 3:47Speaker 1: figured out earlier this season. Not Crochet, that makes sense.
- 3:50Speaker 1: He's been one of the best starters in baseball. But ajay,
- 3:53Speaker 1: do you know where Christian Campbell is right now?
- 3:57Speaker 3: He is in We're just or Worster whatever. However the
- 4:02Speaker 3: hell you say it, because it doesn't say what it's
- 4:04Speaker 3: supposed to say. He's in Worcester, wester A, mass He's
- 4:08Speaker 3: not in the big leagues. Yeah, I mean they try
- 4:10Speaker 3: to He'll be back though.
- 4:12Speaker 1: I know I'm not saying. I'm just saying that's the
- 4:14Speaker 1: example of someone who can come up and then not
- 4:18Speaker 1: play as well, get hurt the whole deal go down.
- 4:21Speaker 1: I mean, you could delay your service time for multiple years.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Once you sign these deals, the team is incentivized to
- 4:26Speaker 1: have you up in the big leagues. I'm not saying
- 4:27Speaker 1: that's going to be the case here with Roman Anthony,
- 4:29Speaker 1: he already looks like one of the top on bass
- 4:32Speaker 1: guys in addition to all the other tools that he
- 4:34Speaker 1: has in the sport. But aj, I mean, Christian Campbell
- 4:37Speaker 1: took the league by storm, signs a sixty million dollar
- 4:40Speaker 1: contract right now, He's in the minor leagues, should be
- 4:43Speaker 1: back up soon.
- 4:44Speaker 3: He's also older. He's also older than Roman Anthony, so
- 4:47Speaker 3: because he went to college. Roman Anthony was a high
- 4:49Speaker 3: school guy. So let's be serious here, Roman Anthony, the
- 4:51Speaker 3: deal that he signed was a six year sixty that's
- 4:53Speaker 3: not breaking the Boston Red Sox. He'll be back up
- 4:56Speaker 3: and you know what, and I'm sure it's backloaded. I
- 4:58Speaker 3: don't know the details, but i'm sure it's back so
- 5:00Speaker 3: he'll go down Triple A figured out. Let's not forget
- 5:02Speaker 3: he changed positions. He was what he was an outfielder,
- 5:04Speaker 3: right and he put him at second base, so he
- 5:06Speaker 3: had a lot of things going on. He was in
- 5:08Speaker 3: the big leagues first time, changing positions, all these different things.
- 5:11Speaker 3: He'll figure it out. They'll make some changes to him
- 5:14Speaker 3: if he doesn't. This deal is not breaking the Boston
- 5:16Speaker 3: Red Sox. Six years for sixty million. I'm sorry, it's
- 5:18Speaker 3: not Roman Anthony. This year's not breaking the Boston Red Sox.
- 5:21Speaker 3: But I think they've seen enough out of Roman Anthony
- 5:23Speaker 3: where they're like, this dude's going to be a star,
- 5:25Speaker 3: let's sign him up.
- 5:26Speaker 2: And I like it.
- 5:27Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it was eight years, sixty million for
- 5:31Speaker 1: Campbell and then obviously we're talking about Anthony right now.
- 5:33Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. The reason I brought it up
- 5:35Speaker 1: is crap.
- 5:36Speaker 3: That's like the Kingery. Remember Scott Kingery when he signed
- 5:38Speaker 3: that deal with the Phillies, win in the Phillies and
- 5:41Speaker 3: he didn't do very well. Now he hasn't played in
- 5:45Speaker 3: the big leagues in forever. But like that didn't break
- 5:47Speaker 3: the Phillies. Jonathan Singleton signed that deal back in the day.
- 5:50Speaker 3: Evan Longoria worked out. He signed before he made to
- 5:52Speaker 3: the big league. So I mean, come on, these deals
- 5:54Speaker 3: don't break the big the big league clubs.
- 5:56Speaker 1: No, Kip, they're a big market team. This should have
- 6:00Speaker 1: a huge bargain for them if he pans out to
- 6:03Speaker 1: be one of the better players in the sport, and
- 6:05Speaker 1: he was the top prospect in the sport five minutes ago.
- 6:08Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. Though, it's a win win
- 6:11Speaker 2: for them. They get the discount in Roman Anthony, Listen, there,
- 6:13Speaker 2: you're always one pitch away from let's say, a fastball
- 6:16Speaker 2: that hits the wrist, or an injury or something just
- 6:18Speaker 2: going off. So it's like he now gets to play freely,
- 6:21Speaker 2: he doesn't have to worry about that, and Boston gets
- 6:23Speaker 2: their guy for probably what looks like a big discount
- 6:25Speaker 2: if his stint so far, the Major's is telling us anything.
- 6:30Speaker 3: He looks good.
- 6:31Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think he's a front office dream because
- 6:34Speaker 1: of the plate approach. It looks very mature right from
- 6:36Speaker 1: the jump. And he's a big on bass guy right
- 6:39Speaker 1: away here. And we know how front office is value
- 6:42Speaker 1: that AJ We talk about it all the time. So
- 6:44Speaker 1: the fact that he's already got that part of his
- 6:46Speaker 1: game cranking and right now in today's game, it's so
- 6:48Speaker 1: highly valued it makes a front office jewel.
- 6:52Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
- 6:55Speaker 3: Can you walk? Can you get a hit? No? But
- 6:57Speaker 3: can you walk?
- 6:57Speaker 2: We love it?
- 6:58Speaker 3: Sign us up?
- 7:00Speaker 1: You can do everything.
- 7:04Speaker 3: What was the Jeff Passing article tweet that Minkayevich and
- 7:07Speaker 3: him are still arguing about on Twitter where the Yankees
- 7:11Speaker 3: prospect had great plate decisions? You can not be able
- 7:13Speaker 3: to hit, but you walk and you have great plate
- 7:16Speaker 3: decisions that they'll sign you up because they're like, oh,
- 7:19Speaker 3: we can teach him how to hit. Oh I disagree,
- 7:21Speaker 3: but we'll see.
- 7:22Speaker 1: I do have to well a couple things. I want
- 7:24Speaker 1: to finish on the Red Sox and I want to
- 7:25Speaker 1: bring up one of their rivals here. First off, do
- 7:28Speaker 1: you like the core that's being built for Boston. Let's remember,
- 7:32Speaker 1: you know this team hasn't been good for several years.
- 7:34Speaker 1: Right now they are rocking and rolling, and they did
- 7:38Speaker 1: do a mini rebuild during the hind bluom Era and
- 7:40Speaker 1: then they picked up the guys that are working out.
- 7:43Speaker 1: I know, but we fired a job to rebuild and
- 7:46Speaker 1: most of the guys that he that he picked and
- 7:48Speaker 1: that he acquired, I mean, he's got a lot of
- 7:51Speaker 1: wins right now for the Red Sox. So I mean,
- 7:53Speaker 1: maybe a little thank you note from Socks fans.
- 7:55Speaker 3: He's stunked, though, Kip. He stunk at his job. You
- 7:57Speaker 3: know why he's stunk because he drafted all these guys
- 8:00Speaker 3: and they're now signing. He traded for a lot of
- 8:02Speaker 3: these guys, made he rebuilt. His job was to trade
- 8:05Speaker 3: mookie bets and rebuild the farm system. He did both
- 8:07Speaker 3: of those. And they're like, yes, sorry him, you can
- 8:10Speaker 3: go to Saint Louis and try it now because he's
- 8:12Speaker 3: gonna try it under John Moselak. So the Cardinals are like, man,
- 8:15Speaker 3: we might have a steal here. Because I don't know
- 8:17Speaker 3: if you know how him at all, but I've talked
- 8:18Speaker 3: to him a bunch of times. He's I mean, some
- 8:20Speaker 3: people don't like him, but I think he's great. I
- 8:22Speaker 3: think he's awesome, and he's great at what he does.
- 8:24Speaker 3: But he's supposed to do, which is he knows how
- 8:26Speaker 3: to draft guys, he knows how to develop guys. He
- 8:28Speaker 3: knows how to put together a big league roster.
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- 9:33Speaker 1: do want to get onto the Orioles. So they're in
- 9:36Speaker 1: the division. They have a good young nuclearus wherever you
- 9:40Speaker 1: say it, core Core is better. How many of their
- 9:46Speaker 1: young players are signed to extensions? Anyone?
- 9:52Speaker 2: Zero? Zero?
- 9:53Speaker 1: One? Did I miss someone?
- 9:55Speaker 2: Who's who signed up? One?
- 9:58Speaker 3: Did Adam Jones Tyler?
- 10:02Speaker 1: Should I get Dan duqutt online one a free agent
- 10:06Speaker 1: three year contract? Get out of here for the young core?
- 10:09Speaker 1: Adlee down the line Westburg?
- 10:14Speaker 3: Yeah, all of them, all of them. I mean they
- 10:17Speaker 3: haven't done it, and now that do they look smart.
- 10:19Speaker 3: I don't know the one I would have gone after
- 10:21Speaker 3: his gunner. I would have said Adly. But Adley hasn't
- 10:24Speaker 3: been great what we thought he'd be. He's been better
- 10:26Speaker 3: last month or so, but for about a year he
- 10:28Speaker 3: wasn't very good. So he doesn't catch every day. That's
- 10:31Speaker 3: the thing that's interesting to me for Adley extension. Ali
- 10:33Speaker 3: doesn't catch every day. They use Austin Jackson a lot
- 10:37Speaker 3: in the backup catcher, A lot for a guy that's
- 10:38Speaker 3: supposed to be a Studham catch every day. So listen,
- 10:41Speaker 3: do the Orioles get it right? I don't know, but
- 10:43Speaker 3: I know this. Michael Lias is like, oh, well, if
- 10:45Speaker 3: these guys don't work out, give me five more years
- 10:47Speaker 3: like Derek Falvey did in Minnesota, and I'm gonna trade
- 10:50Speaker 3: them all away and I will rebuild the crap out
- 10:52Speaker 3: of this organization for five more year contract.
- 10:55Speaker 1: Five year plan, five year plan. But anyway, I mean,
- 10:59Speaker 1: I think if you're in Orioles fan, you're jealous right now.
- 11:01Speaker 1: Both of these teams went through rebuilds. The one for
- 11:04Speaker 1: the Red Sox, I mean technically was shorter, although it
- 11:07Speaker 1: took them longer to get to this point where they're
- 11:09Speaker 1: competitive again, right. The Orioles did a full on teardown.
- 11:14Speaker 1: I mean, it was tank city for a while there,
- 11:17Speaker 1: and you do want to see some of the guys
- 11:19Speaker 1: that you end up with signed to long term contracts,
- 11:21Speaker 1: so kip before we lost it for a sec. That's
- 11:23Speaker 1: the reason I bring up a team in the division
- 11:26Speaker 1: and a fan base that is, at least this season
- 11:29Speaker 1: jealous of what Red Sox fans have, which is a
- 11:32Speaker 1: playoff chance, and some of their young core signed up
- 11:36Speaker 1: long term.
- 11:37Speaker 2: No for I'm sure that's what you guys were hinting on.
- 11:41Speaker 2: Boston's rebuild looks great right now. It's been the process
- 11:44Speaker 2: has been sped up because these guys are playing. Not
- 11:47Speaker 2: only are they playing well, but they're playing well during
- 11:48Speaker 2: meaningful games in this run that they've gone on since
- 11:50Speaker 2: the beginning where they struggled and they were really up. Yet,
- 11:55Speaker 2: when you have the resurgence of the team matching the
- 11:59Speaker 2: rookies coming up, it's a fun time to be part
- 12:01Speaker 2: of that team.
- 12:05Speaker 1: I agree, uh aj. What do you think of the
- 12:08Speaker 1: team for this year? Obviously we're excited about the core
- 12:11Speaker 1: for the future. Do you think Roman Anthony can lead
- 12:14Speaker 1: them to the postseason?
- 12:17Speaker 4: Uh?
- 12:17Speaker 3: The way they're playing right now, yeah, And the way
- 12:19Speaker 3: the Yankees are playing, Uh yeah, I mean I like
- 12:22Speaker 3: where they're at right now. Listen. I think their pitching
- 12:26Speaker 3: has been better than what we thought their pitching was
- 12:28Speaker 3: going to be led by Crochetes having an unbelievable year.
- 12:31Speaker 3: We need to put him in the Si Young discussion.
- 12:34Speaker 3: They are only three games behind the Blue Jays, by
- 12:36Speaker 3: the way, and they're in there in the first wildcard.
- 12:38Speaker 3: So I love where the where the Red Sox are headed.
- 12:41Speaker 3: I think I think Alex Corre has done a nice job.
- 12:43Speaker 3: I think their coaches haven't done a nice job. And
- 12:45Speaker 3: I think, say what you want about Breslo, but the
- 12:47Speaker 3: Bragman signing has worked out tremendously. Trevor Story has turned
- 12:51Speaker 3: it around. I mean, moving Raphael to second base, the
- 12:55Speaker 3: Toro romy Gonzalez first base thing. Although we criticize it,
- 12:58Speaker 3: has been nice. They found the byas behind the plate.
- 13:01Speaker 3: Their outfield is good with Duran a Bray you. I
- 13:05Speaker 3: like where they're at and I think they're going to
- 13:07Speaker 3: make the playoffs, and I think they could make a
- 13:09Speaker 3: deep run if they get you know, Gilito keeps going
- 13:12Speaker 3: like this, Garret Crochet keeps going like this, I think
- 13:15Speaker 3: that they can make a deep run. All right.
- 13:18Speaker 1: First of all, I just want to make sure I
- 13:19Speaker 1: list everybody that they have extended to. I know we
- 13:23Speaker 1: talked about Christian Campbell that was this year, but Saddan Rafaela.
- 13:26Speaker 1: I mentioned Garrett Crochet. Don't forget they did a deal
- 13:30Speaker 1: with Brian Bayo as well. My nice and simple question here,
- 13:34Speaker 1: why don't they do more of this? Not the Red Sox.
- 13:37Speaker 1: Some teams are all over this, right. The Braves take
- 13:40Speaker 1: this to the extreme kip and then some teams barely
- 13:43Speaker 1: touch this, and any team can offer extensions to players
- 13:48Speaker 1: that have a year or less of service time, right,
- 13:51Speaker 1: Like the cost long term is something that any team
- 13:54Speaker 1: can handle payroll wise, truly, So why don't you think
- 13:58Speaker 1: more teams do things like this? And what was your
- 14:01Speaker 1: experience during your early career? Did you end up with
- 14:05Speaker 1: one of these or you turned one of these down?
- 14:07Speaker 1: I don't remember, are.
- 14:08Speaker 2: You talking to me or aj you k?
- 14:11Speaker 1: Did you do one of the the longer term ones
- 14:13Speaker 1: like early on?
- 14:15Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I think in my third my second full year,
- 14:19Speaker 2: I signed a six year deal with a couple options
- 14:21Speaker 2: to that one. I don't know why teams don't do
- 14:23Speaker 2: it more. You kind of see it in more of
- 14:26Speaker 2: a smaller market area. Those are the teams who usually
- 14:29Speaker 2: have to do with it because they have to offer
- 14:30Speaker 2: early to hopefully kind of get those nice team friendly
- 14:34Speaker 2: deals where they can save money. But if I don't
- 14:37Speaker 2: know why big markets haven't done it too, because they've
- 14:38Speaker 2: always I guess just been like we could cover it,
- 14:41Speaker 2: we'll pay it, but it's smart business. I don't think
- 14:47Speaker 2: any of these big market teams or any of these
- 14:48Speaker 2: teams really have their tail between their legs on it
- 14:50Speaker 2: not working out too many times to where it's like, Okay,
- 14:52Speaker 2: we got to stop doing it. It's shown to work
- 14:54Speaker 2: at numerous occasions, so I actually am a little bit
- 14:57Speaker 2: surprised why more teams have not done it already.
- 15:00Speaker 1: I think it's the same reason why some teams are
- 15:03Speaker 1: less aggressive during the trade deadline. They're scared to make
- 15:06Speaker 1: a mistake and yeah, burns for it by their boss.
- 15:10Speaker 2: You can tell which teams sometimes have their tail between
- 15:12Speaker 2: their legs from moves that backfired or something like that lines.
- 15:16Speaker 2: But I think in terms of just like the fundamentals
- 15:19Speaker 2: of the business proposition here that we're talking about of
- 15:21Speaker 2: offering them a young guy flashing a big number in
- 15:25Speaker 2: front of their face and hopefully he takes it when
- 15:26Speaker 2: he might be worth more down the road, and the
- 15:28Speaker 2: team gets a discount. Like it makes sense. Again, I
- 15:32Speaker 2: am kind of surprised it doesn't happen more often.
- 15:43Speaker 1: Better than box scores. Let's look at things from yesterday,
- 15:46Speaker 1: and we're gonna start with a team that many fans
- 15:49Speaker 1: feel like they're not getting talked about enough. The Seattle
- 15:52Speaker 1: Mariners pick up a dub against AJ's white Sox yesterday,
- 15:56Speaker 1: Brian Wu was strong, Josh Naylor homered as far as homeward,
- 16:01Speaker 1: and AJ looks bothered about the Mariners fans. I feel
- 16:03Speaker 1: like they're not getting enough attention.
- 16:06Speaker 3: I mean they beat the White size. I mean they
- 16:11Speaker 3: didn't beat the first place team, they beat the last
- 16:14Speaker 3: place team. Right, Listen, the Mirrors are good. We love
- 16:16Speaker 3: We talk about the Marriers all the time. We talk
- 16:18Speaker 3: about how we love what they did at the trade deadline.
- 16:21Speaker 3: We talked about a lot of Marriorers.
- 16:22Speaker 2: We talk.
- 16:22Speaker 3: I love the Mirrors, I love Seattle, I love Safego
- 16:26Speaker 3: Team Mobile, whatever the heck it's called now. I love Seattle.
- 16:29Speaker 3: So we talk. I feel like we talk about the
- 16:30Speaker 3: Marriners a lot. So people that says don't talk about
- 16:32Speaker 3: the Mariners they must be watching a different show because
- 16:34Speaker 3: we talk about the Marriers a lot.
- 16:36Speaker 1: I agree. And also, it's thirty teams and it's two
- 16:39Speaker 1: hours a day, so we're not going to get to
- 16:41Speaker 1: everyone in depth. But I do think it stands out
- 16:44Speaker 1: that both of the trade deadline acquisitions kip the Big
- 16:47Speaker 1: Ones bat wise or the Mariners. Homer yesterday, Gina's back,
- 16:50Speaker 1: and I love Josh Naylor. They really needed to upgrade
- 16:53Speaker 1: the corner infield positions. It had been neglected one or
- 16:57Speaker 1: the other or both for a long period of time.
- 17:00Speaker 1: And they did a little two for one over several
- 17:02Speaker 1: days with the same team. And that's a team that
- 17:04Speaker 1: could hit this year and couldn't pitch. I'm talking about
- 17:06Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks. So these are two impact bats. I mean,
- 17:10Speaker 1: Gino hadn't homeward in a minute, but I think he
- 17:12Speaker 1: gets his footing down now. And also he's gotten hit
- 17:15Speaker 1: by pitches a bunch of times. This is going to
- 17:16Speaker 1: be a much more dangerous lineup with those two.
- 17:19Speaker 2: Oh they added some thump into the middle of the
- 17:21Speaker 2: lineup with those two one hundred percent and from both
- 17:23Speaker 2: sides of the play, which is really nice. Uh you
- 17:26Speaker 2: know he or uh you know he was what he
- 17:30Speaker 2: went like seven games without a home run. He was
- 17:32Speaker 2: fired them off everywhere right before the All Star break.
- 17:34Speaker 2: I think if I remember too, and then trade deadline
- 17:37Speaker 2: comes and I think now that he's got his first
- 17:39Speaker 2: one with the new team, but you can start to
- 17:40Speaker 2: see him settle in a little bit. It's always good
- 17:42Speaker 2: to get that first one out of the way when
- 17:43Speaker 2: you're known for hitting home runs and no, that that
- 17:47Speaker 2: that lineup length and tremendously with a lot more power
- 17:49Speaker 2: now adding those two.
- 17:51Speaker 1: Also, the depth is going to length. And this is
- 17:54Speaker 1: in my mind, big news. It's not going to necessarily
- 17:57Speaker 1: feel that way to the casual fan, but AJ Seattle
- 18:01Speaker 1: fans last year loved Victor Roeblos when they picked him
- 18:04Speaker 1: up for the last couple of months of the season.
- 18:06Speaker 1: He gets hurt really early on. I think it was
- 18:08Speaker 1: the first week of the year. But he's been way
- 18:09Speaker 1: ahead of schedule, so they announced yesterday rehab assignment for
- 18:13Speaker 1: him next week forty to fifty played appearances and then
- 18:17Speaker 1: he should be called up to the show. That's a
- 18:20Speaker 1: really nice piece that can help you and do a
- 18:22Speaker 1: little bit of everything as an outfielder for this team.
- 18:25Speaker 1: Bryce Miller also on his way back. He's been pumping
- 18:28Speaker 1: high nineties and I think he's got maybe one more
- 18:30Speaker 1: rehab start, So they're going to start to get even
- 18:33Speaker 1: deeper in the rotation and in the outfield lineup, whatever
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- 19:40Speaker 3: I mean, here's the thing. There are three games behind
- 19:42Speaker 3: the Astros. They're game and a half ahead of the Rangers.
- 19:44Speaker 3: We like their team, we like where they're at. We
- 19:46Speaker 3: obviously love their pitching. Their offense is better can they
- 19:51Speaker 3: win the division? I think they got a shot. I
- 19:53Speaker 3: think the Astros are starting to get healthy. They get
- 19:55Speaker 3: our Getti back, you know, they get Painia backed. They're
- 19:57Speaker 3: starting to get healthy and to where they are if
- 20:00Speaker 3: they ever get Alvarez back. But I still think the
- 20:02Speaker 3: Mariners are legit threat to win this division, and if
- 20:05Speaker 3: they get in, nobody wants to face that pitching. Here's
- 20:08Speaker 3: the real question. I know we're talking Mariners right now,
- 20:10Speaker 3: but can the Mariners, who are head of the Yankees
- 20:13Speaker 3: right now, and the Rangers, who are only half game
- 20:16Speaker 3: behind the Yankees knocked the Yankees out of the playoffs
- 20:19Speaker 3: in the Al West. Both these teams passed the New
- 20:21Speaker 3: York Yankees. I think that's the bigger story. We all
- 20:24Speaker 3: expect the Mariners to get in and we all think
- 20:26Speaker 3: they can do damage. But can the other team? The
- 20:28Speaker 3: Rangers passed the Yankees? And wow, what a surprised that
- 20:31Speaker 3: would be because two months ago, two months ago, we're like, Oh,
- 20:35Speaker 3: the Yankees are winning the East easily, They're gonna be
- 20:37Speaker 3: great in the playoffs, and now whammy, they're almost out
- 20:41Speaker 3: of the playoffs.
- 20:42Speaker 2: Who is Ray below Texas in that?
- 20:48Speaker 1: Oh? The Cleveland Guardians and Texas Rangers have the two
- 20:52Speaker 1: best records in the American League in the second half
- 20:54Speaker 1: of the season. Yes, Kip, this is a team that
- 20:57Speaker 1: did not buy. They sold a little bit. They really
- 20:59Speaker 1: actually just lost some dudes to the whole other story
- 21:03Speaker 1: with the betting investigation that's going on right now. But
- 21:06Speaker 1: they're actually playing really well against the Mets in this
- 21:09Speaker 1: current series. They're a game and app back. It's a
- 21:10Speaker 1: good question too, well the Guardians catch the Yankees.
- 21:14Speaker 2: They're always there at the end. I think I just
- 21:15Speaker 2: saw they had won like eight of their last nine
- 21:17Speaker 2: series or something like that, or they're eighteen and seven
- 21:20Speaker 2: in their last series. I just I'm not I don't
- 21:22Speaker 2: like anybody who counts out Cleveland, so I wouldn't be
- 21:25Speaker 2: surprised if they're there in the end. Uh Yeah, I
- 21:28Speaker 2: don't know. I'm sure you guys have addressed it with
- 21:30Speaker 2: that whole trade deadline fiasco with them, those two pitchers.
- 21:34Speaker 2: I thought they probably would have been sellers had it
- 21:37Speaker 2: not happened, and they would have kind of restarted, rebooted
- 21:41Speaker 2: their entire organization. So they kind of those two guys
- 21:44Speaker 2: are at least one guy screwed the pooch un screwed
- 21:46Speaker 2: the organization rather, Yeah, like, yeah, Ki, what's over your shoulder?
- 21:52Speaker 3: You're right, right shoulder, right, left shoulder, right shoulder, left shoulder.
- 21:56Speaker 3: What's over your left shoulder?
- 21:56Speaker 2: What is it? What's the picture of my family?
- 22:00Speaker 3: No, it is over like above your shoulder. Like, well,
- 22:02Speaker 3: I see a world series and then it's a Kipness retired. No,
- 22:06Speaker 3: keep going, keep going the other way, other way up
- 22:10Speaker 3: there go? Yeah, what's up now? Yeah? Is that a kipness?
- 22:14Speaker 3: Indians Guardians Jersey oh Man? I felt like I was
- 22:20Speaker 3: talking to crats with the HOMERSM Sorry.
- 22:23Speaker 2: Really, mister white Sox, really we're gonna do that? Really?
- 22:29Speaker 2: I can't believe I just got out of my chair
- 22:30Speaker 2: too for you to actually like, definitely get over mister
- 22:35Speaker 2: white Sox. Okay, see this is al central, this is
- 22:37Speaker 2: a central. This is I'm okay with it.
- 22:40Speaker 1: Don't let him remodel your home on the fly here, Okay,
- 22:44Speaker 1: make about these decisions before you get them. But in
- 22:48Speaker 1: all seriousness, I do want to spend a couple of
- 22:50Speaker 1: minutes on the Yankees disaster because they lost again and
- 22:53Speaker 1: Devin Williams blew it a j and Devin Williams has
- 22:56Speaker 1: an e R north of five, and his e R
- 22:59Speaker 1: in his career year when he was with the Brewers
- 23:01Speaker 1: was south of two. So it just keeps piling up
- 23:06Speaker 1: the dumb mistakes. Judge's back, so that's good. Although that
- 23:09Speaker 1: now moves stanton to a bench guy or good luck
- 23:12Speaker 1: if you want him in the outfield, because the way
- 23:14Speaker 1: he's running, no freaking way he will last more than
- 23:17Speaker 1: a week out there.
- 23:18Speaker 2: In my mind. No, you'll love guys taking the extra
- 23:21Speaker 2: base every single time.
- 23:23Speaker 3: Here's my quote, here's my thing. Someone in the chat
- 23:26Speaker 3: said this, and this is I mean, it's funny, it's
- 23:28Speaker 3: not great, but the Yankees change are facial policy for
- 23:31Speaker 3: the guy that you are a over five like, I mean,
- 23:33Speaker 3: that's kind of what the Yankee fans feel about Devin Williams, right,
- 23:37Speaker 3: and it's not fair. He's had a rough go. But
- 23:39Speaker 3: to me, I watched that game last night, Devin Williams
- 23:42Speaker 3: walks too many guys. He hasn't thrown enough strikes. I mean,
- 23:45Speaker 3: Rowdy Telezbou was unbelievable. I mean, it was a ten
- 23:48Speaker 3: pitch about the bases loaded and he finally got their
- 23:51Speaker 3: little single and you could see how excited Rowdy was
- 23:53Speaker 3: but he gave up a double to Doley Scarcion, a
- 23:57Speaker 3: change up to lead off the inning. Now, Jason I
- 23:59Speaker 3: Mingez missed it. I mean, you know, it was tough play.
- 24:01Speaker 3: But then he before pitch pitched out walk Jock Peterson.
- 24:04Speaker 3: Then he walked Langford, and then Telez came up, so
- 24:07Speaker 3: he put himself in a lot of this position instead
- 24:10Speaker 3: of going after guys. And then Rowdy gets the hit
- 24:12Speaker 3: and the Yankees don't score. I mean, let's give a
- 24:14Speaker 3: shout out to Valdi. Twos here is like one to
- 24:16Speaker 3: five for the year, which is unbelievable. But I mean,
- 24:19Speaker 3: the Yankees bullpen the guys that they traded for bednar
- 24:22Speaker 3: Bird and some of these other guys haven't done what
- 24:25Speaker 3: they thought they'd do Devall, and then you're throwing Devin
- 24:27Speaker 3: Williams with his up and down this year. Luke Weaver's
- 24:29Speaker 3: been up and down this year. I don't know, man,
- 24:31Speaker 3: It's an interesting spot because Judge came back. You put
- 24:34Speaker 3: Stanton in a weird spot. I don't know. I don't
- 24:36Speaker 3: know if the Yankees are gonna get there. I mean,
- 24:38Speaker 3: as good of a team as we thought they had,
- 24:40Speaker 3: I don't know if they're gonna get there. They make
- 24:41Speaker 3: a lot of dumb mistakes too.
- 24:43Speaker 1: So there's been a lot of talk in New York
- 24:46Speaker 1: and on this show about how to handle this right.
- 24:48Speaker 1: The roster is what it is at this point, Kip,
- 24:51Speaker 1: we haven't had you on a minute, So let's get
- 24:53Speaker 1: your take on how Aaron Boone can do things differently?
- 24:57Speaker 1: Should he? Oh he has taken Is that news right now?
- 25:01Speaker 4: Oh?
- 25:01Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm reading the chat as we go here.
- 25:06Speaker 1: But he was thinking about taking Devin Williams out right,
- 25:08Speaker 1: So that's step one. Now you've got a guy in
- 25:11Speaker 1: David Bednar who could potentially replace him in that role.
- 25:14Speaker 1: So on field moves, and then I also want to
- 25:17Speaker 1: get your take on the tone right, like, we didn't
- 25:20Speaker 1: have you on what was it last week or early
- 25:22Speaker 1: this week when Jazz Chisholm, I think over the weekend
- 25:25Speaker 1: was the play where he gets doubled up at first?
- 25:27Speaker 1: It's a pop up and how many guys actually make
- 25:30Speaker 1: it to second base even if someone does drop it
- 25:34Speaker 1: and try to replace the runner, so he ends up
- 25:36Speaker 1: costing them two outs. Boonie defends him, goes after his
- 25:39Speaker 1: first base, coaching Travis Chapman, He's all fired up with fans.
- 25:43Speaker 1: People just want to see him actually roasting the player,
- 25:45Speaker 1: maybe even benching the player. What would you do if
- 25:48Speaker 1: you're Aaron Boone right now, to try and shake things up?
- 25:52Speaker 2: Well, Trady for Bednar gives you the luxury of moving
- 25:55Speaker 2: Devin Williams if you need to. I think you can
- 25:57Speaker 2: mix and match. And if the stats aren't there, if
- 25:59Speaker 2: the lockdown's not there, then you know what. You got
- 26:02Speaker 2: to go to that guy if he's gonna repeatedly give
- 26:04Speaker 2: up runs, put him in a different situation to succeed,
- 26:08Speaker 2: Let him get his feedback under him, let him find
- 26:10Speaker 2: some pitches. But we were talking about him earlier. I
- 26:12Speaker 2: think a guy like that, who doesn't have the most
- 26:13Speaker 2: overpowering fastball or stuff like that, needs to get ahead.
- 26:16Speaker 2: You cannot get behind guys in the order and at
- 26:20Speaker 2: bat because once you're behind, they can start sitting on
- 26:22Speaker 2: one of your two pitches, basically like that. So in
- 26:25Speaker 2: terms of benching guys, yes, it is a great threat.
- 26:30Speaker 2: I think I remember seeing I forget who wrote about it.
- 26:34Speaker 2: But the threat of being benched, of raising the bar
- 26:39Speaker 2: of the standard that you set there for your organization,
- 26:41Speaker 2: for your team works. It does work. I'm not gonna
- 26:46Speaker 2: sit here and say that was the right time to
- 26:48Speaker 2: do it or it was the wrong time to do it.
- 26:49Speaker 2: But it's like you need to make an example. Sometimes
- 26:52Speaker 2: you need to make example out of your higher profile
- 26:54Speaker 2: guys if they're the ones you're screwing up, because that'll
- 26:55Speaker 2: be more than just benched the last guy on the roster.
- 27:00Speaker 2: So I think the Yankees have always had this high culture,
- 27:03Speaker 2: and Booney's trying and as best he can, but it
- 27:07Speaker 2: doesn't sound like it's that high. It doesn't. It doesn't
- 27:10Speaker 2: sound like it's that championship or bust culture that used
- 27:13Speaker 2: to be there for the Yankees as it once was.
- 27:15Speaker 3: I guess, Kip, you played second base, so I'm gonna
- 27:19Speaker 3: ask you because Scott brought it up. But we talked
- 27:21Speaker 3: about the jazz situation the other day. I don't know
- 27:23Speaker 3: if you saw the play where he thought the second
- 27:25Speaker 3: baseman might drop it, so he took an extra step
- 27:28Speaker 3: and then he got doubled off. Like if the second
- 27:30Speaker 3: baseman drops it and you're the runner on first, you're screwed.
- 27:32Speaker 3: So why would you even like that never would have
- 27:34Speaker 3: gone from my mind. And you know, Paul Goldchman, he's
- 27:36Speaker 3: gonna run the ball out. He was right there, so
- 27:38Speaker 3: they weren't going to turn a double play. So, like,
- 27:40Speaker 3: I mean, I know he said, Oh, I thought he
- 27:42Speaker 3: was gonna drop it, and I was gonna try to
- 27:43Speaker 3: make You're never gonna make it, So don't you just
- 27:45Speaker 3: have to eat it? If he drops you just eat
- 27:47Speaker 3: it and you're you're out.
- 27:49Speaker 2: Listen, I'm not sitting here defending the jazz on this one.
- 27:51Speaker 2: That was a bad bass running that was playing and simple.
- 27:54Speaker 2: You're absolutely right, he's going nowhere. You're not gonna get
- 27:56Speaker 2: to second base by the time he picks up and
- 27:58Speaker 2: throws the ball there. So sometimes that's just the way
- 28:01Speaker 2: where the ball goes. It's location, and sometimes it's just
- 28:03Speaker 2: hit the right spot where they can make that play
- 28:05Speaker 2: and decide which runner they want on base for them.
- 28:07Speaker 2: And you can't do anything about it though, So you
- 28:10Speaker 2: cannot get doubled off there though, absolutely not. You getting
- 28:13Speaker 2: caught in the middle is a bad idea. Getting caught
- 28:16Speaker 2: off first base for a second out is an even
- 28:18Speaker 2: worse idea. So it was just a compounded thing that
- 28:20Speaker 2: was stupid on his part. I think if you asked him,
- 28:23Speaker 2: he would tell you it's stupid now too.
- 28:26Speaker 1: Well, they did, and he said he would do it again.
- 28:30Speaker 2: Never mind that, so well, then you know what, Excuse
- 28:34Speaker 2: me for forgetting him the benefit of the doubt. But
- 28:36Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know why would you do it again?
- 28:39Speaker 2: I Like, it's one thing if you just want to
- 28:41Speaker 2: stick up against the media or something, or you're just
- 28:43Speaker 2: in a bad mood and want to give a bad
- 28:45Speaker 2: answer or something like that. But I'm a teammate. I
- 28:48Speaker 2: sure hope he doesn't do it again.
- 28:51Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that was the answer. A lot
- 28:53Speaker 1: of people wanted to hear.
- 28:54Speaker 2: I know nothing he can do. That's what I'm saying.
- 28:56Speaker 2: There's nothing he can do. That's what AJ's saying too.
- 28:59Speaker 3: Here, here's my question for you both. You all, like,
- 29:01Speaker 3: I know, we keep talking about Aaron Boone keeps getting crushed.
- 29:03Speaker 3: What can Aaron Boone do? Aaron Boone is but the
- 29:06Speaker 3: roster he's got, the roster he's got. There's no more trades,
- 29:08Speaker 3: there's no more anything they can do, right, So he
- 29:10Speaker 3: can't bench. Yeah, he's like, okay, I benched Jazz for
- 29:12Speaker 3: a couple of days for bad base, Like okay, then
- 29:14Speaker 3: who plays second base? It puts him and they're already,
- 29:17Speaker 3: like we just talked about, they're already on the verge
- 29:18Speaker 3: of missing the playoffs. So was he gonna bench? He's
- 29:21Speaker 3: not gonna bench do Minga's he's gonna bench judge right, Like,
- 29:23Speaker 3: what does he do? He's stuck? He has to you
- 29:25Speaker 3: have to answer.
- 29:26Speaker 5: To who you brought.
- 29:28Speaker 2: No, I answered that question in a sense, not like Boone.
- 29:31Speaker 2: He's not doing enough? What can he do? He needs
- 29:33Speaker 2: to do more? No. I answered it like what ideas
- 29:35Speaker 2: would you have for him to change the culture. I
- 29:37Speaker 2: didn't answer it like I wasn't. I didn't take it
- 29:39Speaker 2: that way that he's not doing enough.
- 29:43Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I agree. I agree with what you're saying.
- 29:45Speaker 3: There's nothing he can do. And listen, I give Aaron
- 29:47Speaker 3: Boone a ton of credit because he stands up for
- 29:49Speaker 3: his players like nobody's business every day.
- 29:53Speaker 2: Agreed.
- 29:53Speaker 3: I mean Lance said it on Monday. Behind closed doors,
- 29:56Speaker 3: Boone has his meetings, but in public he covers guys
- 29:59Speaker 3: and ipreciate that man. It's better than having a manager
- 30:01Speaker 3: go out there and say this guy sucks, this guy sucks,
- 30:04Speaker 3: this guy sucks. And like in the old days, it's
- 30:06Speaker 3: much better now to have a private conversation and have
- 30:08Speaker 3: them defending publicly and promise you because you don't want
- 30:10Speaker 3: to be kip. I don't think they were quite as bad.
- 30:13Speaker 3: But when I first came up, like with Tom Kelly
- 30:15Speaker 3: and some of these guys, they just be like, this
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- 30:19Speaker 3: I didn't even do anything. I've been here for one day.
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- 31:28Speaker 1: Here we are showing you a little update on Zach
- 31:31Speaker 1: Wheeler that Phillies fans probably don't love, but the team
- 31:34Speaker 1: doesn't seem too concerned about it. Deep breaths. For now,
- 31:38Speaker 1: Phillies are bumping Wheeler this according to mac Elbe, they're
- 31:41Speaker 1: bumping him back two days to Sunday. He complained of
- 31:44Speaker 1: some shoulder stiffness. They sent him for an MRI. It
- 31:46Speaker 1: was clean, Rob Thompson said, and Wheeler played catch today.
- 31:51Speaker 1: He's been very durable AJ So you got to trust
- 31:53Speaker 1: what Zach Wheeler says, but also trust when he even agrees.
- 31:58Speaker 1: A couple of days we just needed we just broke.
- 31:59Speaker 3: Them one day because I do the game on Saturday.
- 32:02Speaker 3: Can't we just bump him to Saturday so I could
- 32:03Speaker 3: have him. It would have been Wheeler versus de Grom.
- 32:06Speaker 3: What instead. I think it's I don't know who it is,
- 32:09Speaker 3: but I think it's Sanchester Grom. But I would have
- 32:10Speaker 3: taken Wheeler de Grom.
- 32:12Speaker 1: That would have been awesome. I didn't know he had
- 32:14Speaker 1: that opportunity. Sanchester Grom's still pretty good.
- 32:18Speaker 3: Though, Yeah, I mean he just had Wheeler Wheeler Schooble.
- 32:21Speaker 3: We could Wheeler schoobl Wheeler de Grom. I mean talk
- 32:23Speaker 3: about some matchups. Now we're talking. People tune in to
- 32:26Speaker 3: watch that stuff.
- 32:27Speaker 1: By the way, I do want to shout out Nate Evaldi,
- 32:29Speaker 1: who shoved yesterday for the Rangers eight innings, shut out
- 32:34Speaker 1: ball and his era on the season is minuscule. It's
- 32:37Speaker 1: like low ones, I think one three, something like that,
- 32:41Speaker 1: So I don't think we'll have time for it anywhere else.
- 32:43Speaker 1: I just wanted to give him some straight up love
- 32:45Speaker 1: for being I think underrated this season. From a regular
- 32:48Speaker 1: season perspective. We talk a lot about schooballl Crochet. Evaldi
- 32:52Speaker 1: has been a top five pitcher in the American League
- 32:55Speaker 1: this year, and he's got the postseason pedigree as well.
- 32:58Speaker 3: Big game, Nate, almost a big game eight, one three eight.
- 33:04Speaker 1: By the way, on the ear, let's see Clark said,
- 33:08Speaker 1: was Trapp promised ownership percentage with the Angels or something?
- 33:12Speaker 1: Absolutely not? That is not part of baseball.
- 33:17Speaker 3: Nope, it wasn't. But can't it goes back to it
- 33:22Speaker 3: goes back to one team for your whole career, Dude,
- 33:24Speaker 3: I think that would be so awesome. I mean, you
- 33:26Speaker 3: almost did it. You've almost made a kip. You almost
- 33:29Speaker 3: did it. You had to go to that crappy Cub.
- 33:33Speaker 3: Then you went to the crappy Cubs and ruined it.
- 33:35Speaker 2: I did it, well, I did Atlanta too after or
- 33:37Speaker 2: they're the Gwinett team. Rather, I can't even say.
- 33:40Speaker 3: Yeah, but you were a stripper, so that's understandable. Like
- 33:42Speaker 3: if I could play for the strippers that would be
- 33:44Speaker 3: kind of fun too.
- 33:45Speaker 2: I had a blast that year, actually had a great team.
- 33:49Speaker 1: Do you wish it could have been with one team, kip?
- 33:52Speaker 1: Or It's okay?
- 33:55Speaker 2: Listen, When I was with Cleveland, we were competing almost
- 33:58Speaker 2: every year, so it was a perfect scenario. But if
- 34:00Speaker 2: if you're not competing, ask me in like your friends
- 34:03Speaker 2: and your teammates are getting traded away and no one
- 34:05Speaker 2: else is there. I mean, ask me again, I might
- 34:07Speaker 2: have a different answer.
- 34:09Speaker 1: Right if you're on a crappy team, you want to go,
- 34:11Speaker 1: you want to leave if it was you over a
- 34:13Speaker 1: longer period of time, Yeah, I.
- 34:15Speaker 2: Mean you got Ramiers is doing it right now. He's loyal,
- 34:18Speaker 2: he's doing the same thing, and they love him. Well,
- 34:20Speaker 2: he's also unreal, but they Cleveland absolutely love him and
- 34:24Speaker 2: deservingly so. So I mean, like some guys you completely respect.
- 34:28Speaker 2: Two things can be true. It is very honorable, respectable
- 34:31Speaker 2: to do one team the whole, the whole career is awesome.
- 34:34Speaker 2: But also there's that if you're not going to be
- 34:37Speaker 2: in a situation to win a ring, or to chase something,
- 34:40Speaker 2: or even in a playoff contention, why not why not
- 34:43Speaker 2: go somewhere else? So I think both things can be true.
- 34:46Speaker 2: That's why I think Scotty, you're saying the same thing
- 34:48Speaker 2: when you're in the middle.
- 34:49Speaker 1: Yep, exactly like AJ for you. I mean, good thing
- 34:52Speaker 1: you didn't stay a twin.
- 34:54Speaker 3: Yeah, well they traded me.
- 34:55Speaker 1: I didn't have a choice, Scott, I know. But if
- 34:58Speaker 1: you had the choice, and I could wish for in
- 35:00Speaker 1: your ear that in the future you'll be a white
- 35:02Speaker 1: SoC and win a World Series title, I think he'd
- 35:04Speaker 1: be like, I'm out of here.
- 35:06Speaker 3: No, yeah, but you never know. I mean I was
- 35:08Speaker 3: traded and I was, you know, non tendered and ended
- 35:12Speaker 3: up in Chicago. So listen, we all have our journeys.
- 35:15Speaker 3: And if I was, I mean, there were times where
- 35:18Speaker 3: I was in White Talk and I got to ten
- 35:20Speaker 3: five and I think they would have probably liked to
- 35:22Speaker 3: have maybe move me, but they couldn't because I was
- 35:24Speaker 3: a ten to five guy. And then I've told the
- 35:26Speaker 3: story on here. When I was with the Braves my
- 35:28Speaker 3: last couple of years twenty fifteen, John Hart came up
- 35:31Speaker 3: to me and goes, what do you think about being trade?
- 35:32Speaker 3: I SAIDs long as not to Seattle. And it came
- 35:34Speaker 3: up that they were trying to trade me in Seattle.
- 35:38Speaker 2: Did you know that or not?
- 35:40Speaker 3: No? I did not, but worked out because I did
- 35:43Speaker 3: not want to go to Seattle. It was too far. Yeah,
- 35:47Speaker 3: that's what he said.
- 35:48Speaker 1: That's what he said.
- 35:50Speaker 3: That's what he said.
- 35:52Speaker 1: That's what he said. Brewers won again yesterday, shocker. But
- 36:00Speaker 1: we're going to bring up a Pat Murphy quote to
- 36:02Speaker 1: start off. That's what he said because he is the
- 36:05Speaker 1: manager of the best team in baseball right now by record.
- 36:07Speaker 1: And Jason Kipn has played for him in college. So
- 36:10Speaker 1: we'll get a nice little comment from Kip on the
- 36:12Speaker 1: back end of this, Because Caleb Durbin has been really
- 36:15Speaker 1: good for the Brewers, but he doesn't always play every day.
- 36:18Speaker 1: Fans are curious, media is curious. They ask Murph about it.
- 36:21Speaker 1: Here's his answer, verbatim. Whenever a rookie comes up, you
- 36:25Speaker 1: have to, I think, kind of watch him and kind
- 36:26Speaker 1: of pick some times to give him a few days
- 36:28Speaker 1: to catch up. He's not happy about it, but I
- 36:30Speaker 1: think there's reason to do that. The intensity of the
- 36:32Speaker 1: major league season compared to what he's used to and
- 36:34Speaker 1: the way he plays the game so hard. Plus I mean,
- 36:36Speaker 1: his legs aren't as long as everybody else is, so
- 36:39Speaker 1: he's got more ground to cover, quicker, more steps to take.
- 36:42Speaker 1: I think he plays so damn hard and his attitude
- 36:44Speaker 1: is so great that we just immediately assume he's fine,
- 36:46Speaker 1: and sometimes with a closer look, maybe a few days
- 36:51Speaker 1: gives him his legs back. So, Kip, Caleb Durbin is
- 36:56Speaker 1: listed five foot seven in the big leagues, and you've
- 37:00Speaker 1: a few of these quotes from over the days. He's
- 37:03Speaker 1: tough and he'll tell it like it is, but he'll
- 37:06Speaker 1: also mix in a joke, and not everyone on the
- 37:09Speaker 1: internet understands that, and I think it's great.
- 37:11Speaker 2: I think it's hilarious. I understand exactly what he says.
- 37:14Speaker 2: He it's always going to be a joke with a
- 37:18Speaker 2: little bit of the truth sprinkled in. So that first
- 37:20Speaker 2: sentence there where it's like, Okay, we're just giving this
- 37:22Speaker 2: this young guy a chance to get his legs and
- 37:24Speaker 2: kind of catch up a little bit that that was
- 37:27Speaker 2: the truth. The rest of it is hilarious to me.
- 37:30Speaker 2: Murph does a great job. He literally he puts his
- 37:32Speaker 2: players in a position to succeed. Always, he puts them
- 37:36Speaker 2: in the best and he is absolutely one of the
- 37:38Speaker 2: best managers at being like a shield for his players.
- 37:42Speaker 2: So whilst fans or anyone might be like, why is
- 37:44Speaker 2: he got days off to him or to the player
- 37:46Speaker 2: himself now they're talking about his quote, and Mr' like,
- 37:49Speaker 2: I'll take the attention, so it takes goes off of
- 37:51Speaker 2: that guy so he can just relax. He's one of
- 37:53Speaker 2: the best ever to do that, and he's he's a clown.
- 37:56Speaker 2: He's hilarious, but I love the way he does things.
- 38:00Speaker 3: You said a little bit of truth with the joke.
- 38:02Speaker 3: So was it a truth or joke when he made
- 38:04Speaker 3: Jeff frank Core believe for a whole year that the
- 38:06Speaker 3: guy was deaf on his team? Like, was that a
- 38:08Speaker 3: truth or which part of that was the truth? I
- 38:10Speaker 3: just want to know which was the truth?
- 38:12Speaker 2: Literally one of my fun my my favorite stories ever
- 38:15Speaker 2: of him. I was mad I wasn't there for that one.
- 38:19Speaker 2: There's there's numerous stories you can find with Murph, but like, again,
- 38:23Speaker 2: he probably it's probably there's something behind closed doors where
- 38:26Speaker 2: maybe he does need to get his legs back on
- 38:27Speaker 2: drum or he needs a day or two to to
- 38:30Speaker 2: whatever it may be. But I think Murphy is just
- 38:32Speaker 2: such a great shield for his players always.
- 38:35Speaker 3: No, Yeah, mur was awesome. If you haven't talked, ever
- 38:38Speaker 3: talked to Murph, I've been fortunate to be able to
- 38:40Speaker 3: sit in there with you Er and Murphy and just
- 38:42Speaker 3: listen to him. Because there are times when you throw
- 38:44Speaker 3: vasalo and there's a pr guy for the Brewers and
- 38:47Speaker 3: and they'll take shots at a sallo right, and you're
- 38:51Speaker 3: just sitting there listening and you don't even get to
- 38:52Speaker 3: ask a question until about ten minutes in and you're like, hey,
- 38:56Speaker 3: can I ask something just one quick one. Oh, we
- 38:59Speaker 3: forgot your reason.
- 39:00Speaker 2: What do you want?
- 39:01Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And our murphill started asking me questions like
- 39:04Speaker 3: I'm the manager of the Brewers and they're awesome. And
- 39:08Speaker 3: again we talked about it the other day when he
- 39:10Speaker 3: pulled out the pancake out of his out of his
- 39:13Speaker 3: pocket and created on the air. I mean, come on, like,
- 39:16Speaker 3: I mean, that's Murph to a t. He's awesome. He
- 39:19Speaker 3: does things I think sometimes just for reactions, and it's awesome.
- 39:22Speaker 3: It's funny. It's not ill, it's not mean, it's not
- 39:25Speaker 3: anything ill towards anybody. It's just Murph. He's having fun
- 39:29Speaker 3: this baseball season. So long, let the guy have fun.
- 39:32Speaker 3: I mean, and he's a great manager. Listen, he's a
- 39:34Speaker 3: great manager. And I mean I had counsel the other
- 39:36Speaker 3: day and in his office and I said, oh, you
- 39:39Speaker 3: and Murph are going to play here soon, and you know,
- 39:41Speaker 3: and he just sat back and he's like, you know,
- 39:42Speaker 3: Murph is gonna do something that's gonna people are gonna question,
- 39:47Speaker 3: but I'll understand that it's a joke. And I, like
- 39:49Speaker 3: you said, if he played for me, he knows him
- 39:51Speaker 3: and he's great for the game.
- 39:54Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and his team's really good, so I want
- 39:58Speaker 1: to shout out that. I think Andrew Baonn's coming on
- 40:00Speaker 1: the show with us tomorrow and he had a nice
- 40:03Speaker 1: little twelve pitch too out base hit for the team
- 40:08Speaker 1: that drove in a couple of runs. I think that
- 40:11Speaker 1: made it for nothing at that point and they won
- 40:14Speaker 1: seven to Yes. Camon Puller hosting tomorrow, and Andrew Vaughan
- 40:18Speaker 1: will join us.
- 40:19Speaker 3: It's my question before Andrew that the White Sox were
- 40:23Speaker 3: expecting or is this a new and improved Andrew Vaughn
- 40:26Speaker 3: or which one?
- 40:27Speaker 2: Is it?
- 40:27Speaker 3: He just hot for a month, right, Like I mean,
- 40:30Speaker 3: I want him to be good because he's a good
- 40:32Speaker 3: dude when you talk to him, and he's been through
- 40:34Speaker 3: a lot with the White Sox. So, Kim, I'll ask you,
- 40:36Speaker 3: because my family was asking me today like is Andrew
- 40:38Speaker 3: vaugh really good or was he just not good with
- 40:40Speaker 3: the White Sox? Like what is it?
- 40:43Speaker 2: I think I think a different organization you can definitely
- 40:47Speaker 2: bring out the best of a player. We touched on
- 40:49Speaker 2: it earlier in the show. So I think maybe he's
- 40:53Speaker 2: relaxed or maybe the situation just fits him better. Would
- 40:56Speaker 2: you say that Chicago has has a good situation for
- 40:58Speaker 2: young players. Hmm.
- 41:03Speaker 3: I'm not going to say anything, so.
- 41:07Speaker 1: He's said enough.
- 41:08Speaker 2: He said the scenery can always kind of I think,
- 41:13Speaker 2: and this is just the way I would approach being
- 41:15Speaker 2: trader or anything. I got to change his sceenior. It's like,
- 41:17Speaker 2: you want to make a good impression on your teammates
- 41:19Speaker 2: and the coaching staff, so you're always doing the right things.
- 41:22Speaker 2: You're showing up and you haven't developed your routine, so
- 41:25Speaker 2: you you rely back as your routine being just doing
- 41:29Speaker 2: every single thing the right that way, so you come early,
- 41:32Speaker 2: you hit early, You do everything you can to make
- 41:34Speaker 2: a good impression and to make sure that you're doing
- 41:37Speaker 2: all things. So that's why I think when you change
- 41:39Speaker 2: scenery sometimes you might play better just because it has
- 41:41Speaker 2: you kind of refocusing on all the little things.
- 41:45Speaker 1: Dude just hit the ball hard for years AJ when
- 41:49Speaker 1: he was making contact that was a problem at times.
- 41:52Speaker 1: So I don't remember the exact but I know the
- 41:54Speaker 1: media has talked to him and it's like the Brewers
- 41:57Speaker 1: telling him, Hey, let's just make sure we're swinging it
- 41:59Speaker 1: at your yeah, and then when you make contact. I mean,
- 42:03Speaker 1: he's had big exit below numbers, for a while, and
- 42:05Speaker 1: he can get lyft on the baseball too. So that's
- 42:07Speaker 1: why it's frustrating aj for some fans, I know. I mean,
- 42:11Speaker 1: there's many guys you can point to and say that.
- 42:13Speaker 1: But the Brewers clearly saw something.
- 42:15Speaker 3: Of course, But they also sent him a triple A.
- 42:17Speaker 3: He was a triple A for a long time too,
- 42:19Speaker 3: with the White Sox and the Brewer, So I mean,
- 42:21Speaker 3: it wasn't like they called him up right away. So listen,
- 42:23Speaker 3: here's the thing. Every organization is going to tell you
- 42:25Speaker 3: something like they always tell it. Kid. I mean, I
- 42:27Speaker 3: don't know how man hitting coaches you had in your career,
- 42:29Speaker 3: but they're all like, get a good pitch, put a
- 42:31Speaker 3: good swing on a good pitch. Like, no kidding. If
- 42:33Speaker 3: I was that easy, I would never swing in a
- 42:35Speaker 3: bad pitch, right, So they did something, whether it's comfort level,
- 42:38Speaker 3: whether he wasn't a higher pick with the Brewers, he
- 42:40Speaker 3: was with the third overall pick with the White Sox,
- 42:42Speaker 3: A lot of expectations on him, bad culture, whatever you
- 42:45Speaker 3: want to call it. When he went to the Brewers,
- 42:46Speaker 3: something change and I don't I don't know what that is,
- 42:49Speaker 3: and I wish you know. When you guys have him
- 42:50Speaker 3: on tomorrow, ask him because I want to know. Inquiring
- 42:53Speaker 3: minds want to.
- 42:53Speaker 1: Know you got it, dude. We're going to ask him.
- 42:57Speaker 1: Andrew Vaughan joining us tomorrow on ft E Flat Pans
- 43:01Speaker 1: coming up next on ft AJ. I like watching players
- 43:15Speaker 1: you know on their new team. So Zach Lttel was
- 43:18Speaker 1: great for the Reds. Nice pick up for them. Career
- 43:21Speaker 1: high or season high for him, eight strikeouts, seven innings,
- 43:23Speaker 1: winner and run. Nice win for the Reds. Gives them
- 43:26Speaker 1: some rotation depth there. Spencer Steer, the big homer, Chris
- 43:29Speaker 1: Paddock got beat up. He gave a part contact that
- 43:31Speaker 1: first start with good results. This time did not work
- 43:34Speaker 1: out for him. Twins beat him. And then lastly, you
- 43:37Speaker 1: mentioned it when we were in a break for the
- 43:39Speaker 1: TV crowd. Max Munsey is back and it's like they
- 43:43Speaker 1: have their security blanket the Dodgers not to mention he's good.
- 43:47Speaker 1: He had two homers last night, two.
- 43:50Speaker 3: Of them two bombs, by the way, two absolute bombs. Yeah, listen,
- 43:56Speaker 3: it's it's a thing. It's a thing. I'm sorry, Like
- 44:00Speaker 3: it matters and certain I mean, heck, we've seen guys
- 44:02Speaker 3: get sent down that were traded for seers and Birds. So,
- 44:05Speaker 3: I mean, you know, not all these things work out.
- 44:07Speaker 3: But here's the deal. The teams that went after it
- 44:10Speaker 3: got the players they think are gonna help them, and
- 44:11Speaker 3: if it doesn't work out, at least you can say
- 44:13Speaker 3: the GM try. But by the way, I'm going to
- 44:15Speaker 3: change the whole subject right now, and I'm gonna ask
- 44:17Speaker 3: Kip this because what's his name, Gavin Williams, the pitcher
- 44:20Speaker 3: for the Guardians.
- 44:21Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 44:22Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a no hitter through seven innings, but
- 44:24Speaker 3: he's at like ninety six pitches. Will they let him go?
- 44:27Speaker 3: That's what I want to know. I know, we're I hope, So,
- 44:30Speaker 3: I mean, ninety six is a big number though, I know,
- 44:33Speaker 3: but probably well ninety seven through seven.
- 44:38Speaker 2: They don't have their closer anymore. Well they have Kate
- 44:42Speaker 2: Smith class as out what happened. I want to reiterate
- 44:48Speaker 2: from before when I thought we made the playoffs is
- 44:50Speaker 2: my last year I forgot I had Uh. We were
- 44:53Speaker 2: ninety three and sixty nine, so it's not like we
- 44:55Speaker 2: were a bad team. There's no third wildcard and I'd
- 44:59Speaker 2: broken my handmaid bone on my last step after Cleveland,
- 45:02Speaker 2: so I was out for the last month and a half.
- 45:04Speaker 1: I think you guys got worked ninety three wins and
- 45:07Speaker 1: you can't make the playoffs.
- 45:08Speaker 2: You got a Handmaate's car, look at us.
- 45:13Speaker 1: That's heart breaking, Kip, ninety three wins and you can't
- 45:16Speaker 1: crack the playoffs.
- 45:19Speaker 2: So it wasn't like, yeah, we didn't like I don't
- 45:22Speaker 2: know whatever choke job you guys were talking about before
- 45:24Speaker 2: in Minnesota won one hundred and two games that.
- 45:26Speaker 1: Year, right, But my thing is now you have the
- 45:29Speaker 1: third wildcard, so those situations essentially will never happen. You're
- 45:33Speaker 1: not gonna have a ninety three win team missed the
- 45:35Speaker 1: playoffs or not very often. We had an eighty nine
- 45:38Speaker 1: win team, you know, missed the playoffs and the Diamondbacks.
- 45:41Speaker 3: But yeah, you're getting.
- 45:42Speaker 1: To the mid nineties nowadays, gonna be tough to miss
- 45:44Speaker 1: the playoffs with a third wildcard.
- 45:46Speaker 3: I was on multiple ninety win teams and missed the playoffs,
- 45:48Speaker 3: So I mean, I know how Kip feels.
- 45:50Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're welcome third wildcard teams for me and
- 45:53Speaker 2: a J.
- 45:57Speaker 1: As far as Williams will talk about it. If he
- 45:59Speaker 1: gets the no hitter tomorrow and if he gets removed
- 46:00Speaker 1: in a weird spot, we'll talk about that too. They're
- 46:03Speaker 1: gonna let him. I'm not watching this second. I will
- 46:05Speaker 1: right after this. I'm sure they're gonna let him pitch
- 46:07Speaker 1: the eighth. And if it's a five pitch inning, cool,
- 46:09Speaker 1: If it's a fifteen pitch inning, we'll talk about him
- 46:12Speaker 1: tomorrow exactly.
- 46:16Speaker 3: This might be his one shot. Let him go, man,
- 46:18Speaker 3: let him go.
- 46:19Speaker 2: That's my opinion. That's my opinion on things.
- 46:22Speaker 1: I'm with you. Andrew Gone tomorrow, Kevin Pillar tomorrow, Camp
- 46:26Speaker 1: Maven tomorrow. AJ have fun out in vacation land, and
- 46:31Speaker 1: we will see you next week. Kip, We'll see you soon,
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