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Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, October 9 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey. And I'm not sure how they traded for him
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Speaker 1: and brought him here in one week, but they did. Uh,
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Speaker 1: he's the same guy, and as we know him, McAffrey
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Speaker 1: still running. So we need to make sure that that
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Speaker 1: gets stopped. Uh. I think it's gonna be the key.
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Speaker 1: But the key for the Saints so far since Breeze
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Speaker 1: went out is they have not trailed. They have not
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Speaker 1: had to overcome a deficit. To me, if the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: are gonna win this, they have to get up on
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Speaker 1: the Saints and force them to do things they haven't
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Speaker 1: had to do since Breeze went out. Uh. That's easier
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Speaker 1: said than done, because the thing people forget about the
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Speaker 1: Saints is they're a very good defensive team. They have
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Speaker 1: I would say they have won with defense since Breeze
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Speaker 1: went out, But the defense has played well enough that
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Speaker 1: the offense has been able to play their kind of game.
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Speaker 1: They're not the same Saints that everybody has in their
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Speaker 1: mind for the last ten years, which has been we
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Speaker 1: have to win games thirty six. They're better when they're
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Speaker 1: playing controlled games, and they have to without Breeze. Just
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Speaker 1: look at who they beat and they went to Seattle.
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Speaker 1: In one, they beat the Cowboys and they beat a
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Speaker 1: Bucks team that put fifty five up in the Angeles
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Speaker 1: against the Rams. So um, it's a tall order, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: all right, let's get into big things. Big thing one
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Speaker 1: is Gardner Minshew. The challenge just keeps getting more and
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Speaker 1: more challenging as weeks go on. The Saints, like we
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Speaker 1: just mentioned, are incredibly talented on both sides the ball.
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Speaker 1: For example, Saints cornerback Marshaw Lattimore was on Mike Evans
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Speaker 1: last week. Three targets, zero catches for him, So they
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Speaker 1: have a great offense, but they don't talk a lot
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Speaker 1: about this defense, still very good. Big thing too is Teddy.
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Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater is back. He's coming off a four touchdown performance,
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Speaker 1: has weapons all over the place, decisn't to say is
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Speaker 1: paying off three hundred and fourteen yards last week. And
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Speaker 1: big thing three is corrections. There's obviously things that the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars need to work on this week. Ball security, run
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Speaker 1: to defense, for sure. We talked to Calais Campbell in
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Speaker 1: the locker room on Monday and he said, if he's
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Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara, he's getting really excited this week, and I
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Speaker 1: see the tape I'm looking at my chaps, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, okay, you know, I mean, you know, he's
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Speaker 1: the same kind of bat, super super elusive horror running.
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Speaker 1: It's tough, strong, fast, you know. So you know, if
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Speaker 1: from him looking in the same, from his good side
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Speaker 1: of you know, and if you look at that, there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes, a lot of a sakes that
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Speaker 1: could be cleaned up. It's no doubt that when the
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Speaker 1: Saints come on the field their offense, they're probably gonna
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Speaker 1: be running in a few times. Well, and I went
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Speaker 1: on and said my my hot take on Monday was
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Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars will handle the run this week,
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Speaker 1: not because the Saints are any good, because I think
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars will overcompensate uh for poor performance on the
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Speaker 1: ground in recent weeks. Yeah, and I've gotten emails of
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Speaker 1: people tired of having about gap control. That's been the
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Speaker 1: buzzwords since Sunday. But the reality is, when you play
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Speaker 1: the kind of defense the Jaguars do, UH, and a
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Speaker 1: lot of teams play it, when it goes awry, it
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Speaker 1: can go arrive very badly, and it can look very bad.
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Speaker 1: And it looked bad the other night, worse than we
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Speaker 1: saw the other day. That's that worse than what we
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Speaker 1: saw the other day. No, that's when it back. But
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Speaker 1: in other words, is as bad as it gets um no,
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Speaker 1: because it call it as bad as it can always
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Speaker 1: be worse. The Coldsman for three seventy five here one day,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean Ji was mamb for three seventy
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Speaker 1: five was on the Colts. It can always get worse.
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Speaker 1: But and in my life he usually does. But with
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Speaker 1: the usually when it gets like that. The problem with
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Speaker 1: the gap control of defense is when defenders try to
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Speaker 1: make plays outside their gap and they try to make
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Speaker 1: up for what they're worried about their teammate who's in
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Speaker 1: the next gap over not doing so. It's usually a
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Speaker 1: case of coaches getting back with a week to prepare
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Speaker 1: and saying just stay in your lanes, don't try to
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Speaker 1: overcompensate for other people. I agree with you, Brian. I
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Speaker 1: think they'll play very well defensively against the run. I
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Speaker 1: thought it was significant that Clays Campbell took the tone
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Speaker 1: he did on Monday. He usually hasn't been a guy
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Speaker 1: to go that far over the top and say, hey,
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Speaker 1: you know, if a team's coming in here, I expect
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Speaker 1: them to be looking at this. I expected to be excited.
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Speaker 1: We didn't play that well. It was a leadership move,
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Speaker 1: I thought on Monday to talk about it that way.
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Speaker 1: I think it was the first quote that we'll hear
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Speaker 1: a lot of this week. This won't happen again. I
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Speaker 1: thought Clais was challenging his teammates a little bit. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we were talking about it on Zone Blitz on Money
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Speaker 1: that Normally he's a very positive guy, looks at the
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Speaker 1: bright side of things. He was a little agitated on Monday,
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Speaker 1: for sure. Did not want to talk about the run
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Speaker 1: defense anymore. Knew it how to be fixed. It's the
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Speaker 1: first time since he's been here that the defense feels
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Speaker 1: truly shaky. And there were moments last year where it did,
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Speaker 1: but those moments were always followed by sort of a
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Speaker 1: tighten up game. They had two in a row against
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Speaker 1: Kansas City and Dallas, but you know, wheels were coming
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Speaker 1: off at that point, but they recovered from that. Uh.
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Speaker 1: This is the first time it feels like there are
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Speaker 1: major questions about it, and I'd answer why. I will
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Speaker 1: be interesting to see how they're responding. It's the same.
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Speaker 1: Here's the concern the secondary. Can they force the Saints
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Speaker 1: to run. I'm not sure they'll have to because the
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Speaker 1: Saints want to run the Saints, So we'll try to
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Speaker 1: run coming out no matter why. Other words, can they
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Speaker 1: stop Thomas or can they slow him down? Without Jalen
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Speaker 1: Ramsey on the field, And I I have no news
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Speaker 1: of this yet, but I'm not anticipating and playing right
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Speaker 1: um without him on the field. To take the best
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Speaker 1: receiver that the other team has to offer is a
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Speaker 1: j boy up to the task of Thomas so that
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Speaker 1: they have to run the ball more, or they throw
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Speaker 1: the ball all over the field and spread the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: out and then just kind of pick away with the
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Speaker 1: run game. Yeah. What you would love, and this is
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Speaker 1: sort of a side and of what you would love
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Speaker 1: is it is for Jalen to be healthy and feel
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Speaker 1: motivated because there's a corner across the ball this week
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Speaker 1: that you can make a strong argument he's as good
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Speaker 1: as Jalen right now. And we like to say in
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville because despite all that happened, we like Jalen and
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Speaker 1: we think he's the best, and I do think he's
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Speaker 1: the best NFL. But Whytemore shut down to Mariy Cooper
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Speaker 1: and uh Mike Evans the last two weeks. Um, you
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Speaker 1: know who's the best corner in the NFL. He might
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Speaker 1: be playing in Jacksonville this week. It might not be jailed. No,
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Speaker 1: and you've got to be on the field playing to
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Speaker 1: actually be the best corner in the league. How about
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Speaker 1: gardnerment shoe. This is a cover of the Wall Street
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Speaker 1: Journal yesterday. You know, now that's an accomplishment for sports,
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Speaker 1: for a for a six round pick from Washington State.
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Speaker 1: Anticipating the hell of an accomplishment. You know, they every
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Speaker 1: day they have a pencil sketch of one of the subjects,
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Speaker 1: and he was a pencil sketch. I mean that's it
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Speaker 1: was a pretty big deal. Foo min Shoe is how
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Speaker 1: they they termed it. And I said to him and
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Speaker 1: it impressed me. His response, I said, cover Wall Street
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Speaker 1: Journal doesn't mean anything to actual and Sullivan, but doesn't
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Speaker 1: mean anything to you, And he said nope. He said,
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Speaker 1: I don't read the clooks well and made something to me.
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Speaker 1: I think we talked about that last week. What's impressive, Gardner, Um,
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Speaker 1: all the stuff you truly do get the idea that
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Speaker 1: the only time he talks about mins Hu mania is
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Speaker 1: in the five minutes that he talks about it in
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Speaker 1: his media availability and whatever media hits. You don't get
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Speaker 1: the idea that he's sitting around with wind Guard at
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Speaker 1: the house and you know, you know, talking about how
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Speaker 1: great he I mean, that's not who he is or
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Speaker 1: the rest of the building. And when you talk about
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Speaker 1: him to other people around the building, you don't hear
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Speaker 1: about the mustache. I mean you might hear about the joke,
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Speaker 1: but they don't talk about the mania part, and they
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Speaker 1: don't talk about the personality. They talk about off the charts,
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Speaker 1: how this kid is at ten on everything when it
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Speaker 1: comes to preparation to all the stuff you want from
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Speaker 1: a quarterback, aside from the pencil sketch. That's why it's
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Speaker 1: so exciting. Seriously, The Wall Street Journal, Yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 1: coming out of August, there's no way anyone would have
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Speaker 1: said that he would have ordered that kind of attention.
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Speaker 1: And he's done it all kidding aside by his play
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Speaker 1: on the field. And the challenge gets steeper this week
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Speaker 1: because he's facing a terrific defense. We'll see a d
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Speaker 1: J charks up to the task. I mean, at August,
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Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been on the Julie Journal I mean journal,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure there isn't a lot of taco Julie this morning,
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Speaker 1: moving there, not moving. Don't make that be known. Don't
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Speaker 1: in North Florida. Nothing against Julie, nothing against all. Right,
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Speaker 1: game is who said it? Coming from postgame locker rooms Sunday,
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Speaker 1: some Monday locker room as well. We got a lot
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Speaker 1: going on. Who said at number one, we got knocked
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Speaker 1: out of our gap when no one's in there. It's
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Speaker 1: going to go right to the secondary. When you do
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Speaker 1: that in this league against good running backs, they're going
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Speaker 1: to find it. Christian McCaffrey indeed did find it multiple
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Speaker 1: times on Sunday. Yeah, this could have been any one
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Speaker 1: of a number of people. Obviously I think it was Doug,
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Speaker 1: but it could have been any veteran who's speaking intelligently
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Speaker 1: about it. Wow, you guys are on the same page.
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Speaker 1: Day it was done morrole but agreed. We had multiple
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Speaker 1: people talking about the issues in the gap defense buzzword
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Speaker 1: of the week gap defense. Well, and it's uh, it
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Speaker 1: is the one thing that that I know fans are
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Speaker 1: very disappointed with the performance. But it should give hope
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Speaker 1: because typically issues in gap can be issues in just
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Speaker 1: being more disciplined. Look, and it's not talent, that's just season.
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Speaker 1: Let me go back. We went you'll call this game
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Speaker 1: to Denver and Terrell Davis was a young running back
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Speaker 1: in a playoff game, and they ran for almost three
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Speaker 1: yards that day. And it wasn't because the gaps weren't filled.
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Speaker 1: It was because they got run over, right, they were
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Speaker 1: man handled up front. That's a much different feeling than
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Speaker 1: this when you get beat up up front because you're
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Speaker 1: not big enough, not strong enough, not good enough. That's
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Speaker 1: one thing. When you're in the wrong spot, you figure
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Speaker 1: you can fix it, all right, who said it? Number two?
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Speaker 1: We came in here after the game and I called
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Speaker 1: the team up. Make sure nobody had their heads down.
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Speaker 1: We fought the whole game post game Sunday locker room
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Speaker 1: about the fight of the tea. All right, Brian, let's
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Speaker 1: see it unique and go way. No. John winner is
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Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette. And if you notice, I put a little
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Speaker 1: look almost like a New Orleans French quarter, right, European
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Speaker 1: and Leonard's from New Orleans. So that's why on my
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Speaker 1: A and uh as anybody would know that it was
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Speaker 1: a topic on Monday, No except Brian, Um, I've just
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Speaker 1: done that. It's a it's a significant thing that he
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Speaker 1: was the the player talking to the team. My understanding
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Speaker 1: was a very impassioned speech and it was very uh
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Speaker 1: emotional and as we talked about the kid has changed
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Speaker 1: and he's turned into a leader, and if if they
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Speaker 1: get this thing turned around or the momentum continues, I
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Speaker 1: think he'll be he'll be a big part of it.
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Speaker 1: He impressive. He made one of those impassioned speeches to
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Speaker 1: his offensive line on the sidelines. We can't show it
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Speaker 1: to you because it would just be b B B
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Speaker 1: B B B bright, which is what you expect to
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Speaker 1: happen during the course of a football game. But it
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Speaker 1: was I said to see him on the sidelines doing that,
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Speaker 1: because that was not Leonard for net last year. Last
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Speaker 1: year would have been sitting on the bench kind of
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Speaker 1: like this, arms back, not a care in the world, chilling.
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Speaker 1: That's that's the opposite of popping. Yes, correct, I just
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Speaker 1: want to make sure we got our verbed drug. You're
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Speaker 1: onto something today, all right. The last who said it,
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Speaker 1: who said at number three, we really put ourselves in
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Speaker 1: a bad situation in this last game. All we can
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Speaker 1: do is correct mistakes. I am willing to bet our
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Speaker 1: defense will be on point this week. Our defense will
14:39
Speaker 1: be on point this week, Make no mistake, God's crossed
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Speaker 1: your teeth and Brian Gardnerman show no Dan Klaus may
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Speaker 1: have been mob I'm gonna guest Klias Campbell just because
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Speaker 1: he is our defense. I thought we were talking about
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Speaker 1: the defense John wins this week. Well three for three
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Speaker 1: demands on it on Wednesday morning. Yes, Klais Campbell saying
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Speaker 1: our defense will be on point this week. It's going
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Speaker 1: to get fixed. Well, he used that phrase on a
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Speaker 1: Sunday or Monday, but used it several times. Uh. Willing
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Speaker 1: to bet on his guys. And I don't know how
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Speaker 1: much will come out in the locker room today in
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Speaker 1: their in their tone, but I can't imagine that there
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Speaker 1: won't be a circling the wagons mentality for this defense
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Speaker 1: as as well. There must be all right when we
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Speaker 1: you were right, Ramsey is out a distraction to this team,
17:48
Speaker 1: which is evident with the camaraderie the Jags are displaying
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Speaker 1: even after a tough loss. Ramsey's also faded from the
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Speaker 1: national media hoopla, which is quite welcome as well. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: as that all along. After the first couple of days
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Speaker 1: of the whole distraction thing, uh, it started to irritate
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Speaker 1: me a little bit because I didn't really think that
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Speaker 1: within this building that whatever was going on would be
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Speaker 1: a distraction. It would be a detriment to not have
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Speaker 1: him on the field, because when he's not in the field,
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Speaker 1: there are things you can't do all across your back seven.
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Speaker 1: So obviously that is an issue, But in terms of
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Speaker 1: a distraction, we felt it since the very beginning. The
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Speaker 1: I don't say it's it's it's because of what's going
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Speaker 1: on with Jalen. But whatever is going on with Jalen
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Speaker 1: is a sidebar to how these guys are playing together
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Speaker 1: and the theme of how they all feel about this
18:42
Speaker 1: football team. It would be great if when Jalen gets healthy,
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Speaker 1: if he's back on board and not talking trade or
18:50
Speaker 1: thinking trade. But I don't think it's gonna affect how
18:53
Speaker 1: guys feel about it. Interesting that I do get the
18:56
Speaker 1: idea that the hoop law is fading about it. You know,
18:59
Speaker 1: the story's not there anymore. So when the back is healthy, Uh,
19:06
Speaker 1: does he realized that the inertia of that story and
19:14
Speaker 1: the pressure on the Jags and trade has faded and
19:17
Speaker 1: there is now a what am I going to do? Now?
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Speaker 1: I need to play? So I don't know how that's
19:22
Speaker 1: going to play out, but it certainly feels like not
19:26
Speaker 1: that many people are paying attention as first was the case.
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Speaker 1: I wonder how that will effect the actions if you
19:34
Speaker 1: could play that week, This week could be big, right,
19:37
Speaker 1: as I've said for a week now. At whatever point
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Speaker 1: he is cleared and should play, he needs to play.
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Speaker 1: There could be a distraction if he's not doing it
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Speaker 1: when that happens, because there could be guys saying, hey,
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Speaker 1: why aren't you playing right? Clearly this defense is not
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Speaker 1: the same without him. But at this point, it's not
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Speaker 1: like the players are saying, well, if we only had
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Speaker 1: Jalen then it would be a distraction. They're not saying that.
20:05
Speaker 1: They know they can't say that. They have to focus
20:08
Speaker 1: on who's there and what they can get done. Um,
20:11
Speaker 1: he's got no more cards to play. I mean, the
20:13
Speaker 1: agent played the last one the other night, which was
20:16
Speaker 1: you know, here, I am in Houston, not with you.
20:18
Speaker 1: I'm with my buddy Deshaun Watson. I'm not with you. Uh.
20:21
Speaker 1: And it was there for legitimate reasons and who cares
20:23
Speaker 1: who he was eating with, but it was just sort
20:24
Speaker 1: of a well I'm not with you. But that didn't
20:27
Speaker 1: even cause that much of it. When it came out
20:29
Speaker 1: and went, well, that's gonna make some noise, and monday
20:31
Speaker 1: it was over. It didn't didn't make any noise. So
20:34
Speaker 1: it's because it and this is not a barb at jail,
20:40
Speaker 1: and because I don't know what's motivating him beyond the bag.
20:44
Speaker 1: I don't know where his heads actually hasn't talked about it,
20:47
Speaker 1: but at this point, there's been so much with it
20:50
Speaker 1: that no matter what the motivation, I think when there's
20:52
Speaker 1: another layer of the story, it's more of a collective okay, well,
20:59
Speaker 1: and then you move on and more of an eye
21:01
Speaker 1: roll of well that's one more thing. Has it changed anything? No, Okay,
21:06
Speaker 1: well great, let's move on. So it's not as shocking.
21:09
Speaker 1: It's not shocking anymore when something happens because you expected
21:12
Speaker 1: and I think the players for the most part say, boy,
21:14
Speaker 1: wish we had him. The Jags quiet resolve here to
21:18
Speaker 1: just keep going has paid off well. And and Jalen,
21:21
Speaker 1: if you don't know it, the only way you're going
21:23
Speaker 1: to get paid. And he said he's not worried about
21:25
Speaker 1: money because he knows what he's worth and eventually he'll
21:27
Speaker 1: get paid. Until you play right, It seems like the
21:31
Speaker 1: Jacks simply just don't have time to worry about it
21:34
Speaker 1: right now. There are bigger worries on their hands. They're
21:36
Speaker 1: they're setting in an example. Now, that doesn't mean that
21:39
Speaker 1: the people who are putting the team on the field
21:41
Speaker 1: each week don't really really value him and one him
21:44
Speaker 1: out there. I mean, there's no question the people to
21:48
Speaker 1: football know how important he is. To this team. Uh,
21:52
Speaker 1: but they can't worry about there's not time. All right,
21:55
Speaker 1: Let's go to JT from Fort Worth, Texas. Can you
21:58
Speaker 1: see Dom Papers taking over the defense this year? Is
22:02
Speaker 1: Jally gonna play if he does? See what I mean?
22:05
Speaker 1: But I get this question all the time, Uh, And
22:09
Speaker 1: I get how much people want to blame coach, blame, blame, blame, blame, blame.
22:13
Speaker 1: Todd Walsh is a coordinator. I don't have to play
22:15
Speaker 1: that change. He doesn't have his best defensive player. He's
22:18
Speaker 1: having to make adjustments on the fly. And last week
22:21
Speaker 1: Miles Jack, Ronnie Harrison, and Quincy Williams all let him down.
22:25
Speaker 1: They were coached, were to be well, then admitted that
22:28
Speaker 1: they were in the wrong spot. Why were in the
22:29
Speaker 1: wrong spot? Well, as Miles Jack said, I put that
22:32
Speaker 1: on me, and I think Doug really if you watch
22:34
Speaker 1: Doug's press conference on Monday, you really saw where the
22:38
Speaker 1: thinking was in the organization. Uh. It was it was
22:41
Speaker 1: four or five quotes in, but he said, you know,
22:44
Speaker 1: adjustments are great if you're not getting uh leverage, And
22:51
Speaker 1: it was it was football one oh one, But basically
22:53
Speaker 1: he was saying, look, adjustments are great if if it's
22:58
Speaker 1: a matter of Okay, now we're not putting the players
23:02
Speaker 1: in the best position to make the plays. But any
23:06
Speaker 1: adjustments they would have made would have been getting out
23:08
Speaker 1: of what they believed was the best scheme to stop it,
23:11
Speaker 1: and it would have put the guys in worst position.
23:13
Speaker 1: So why do that? So I got and I got
23:16
Speaker 1: no feeling that Doug was saying, boy it if Wash
23:20
Speaker 1: would have moved these guys over into this gap would
23:23
Speaker 1: have played this. That wasn't the vibe. So I think
23:25
Speaker 1: this is a big no. And that's not what Don
23:27
Speaker 1: was brought here for. It's a huge all right, let's
23:31
Speaker 1: finish it up with Scott from San Antonio, Texas. They
23:34
Speaker 1: don't have to be the two thousand seventeen Jags defense,
23:37
Speaker 1: though it would be nice with this offense, just one
23:40
Speaker 1: half to three force would work the way the offense
23:42
Speaker 1: is playing. Yeah, and just couldn't be more dead on.
23:46
Speaker 1: And it's the vogue thing to say, well, the Ovens
23:48
Speaker 1: playing bears even doesn't have to be as good. But
23:51
Speaker 1: in this case, it's truly true that I don't think
23:53
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a defense on the level of two
23:55
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen. The way it looks, especially especially if Jalen's
23:58
Speaker 1: not playing and this second dairy is not the same secondary,
24:01
Speaker 1: the safeties are not solid. Um, but it is true,
24:05
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to this defense. I wrote at some
24:09
Speaker 1: point this week. This defense can be fine, and fine
24:14
Speaker 1: is not elite, but fine in this case is enough.
24:17
Speaker 1: We saw it the Texans, the Titans with Jalen on
24:21
Speaker 1: the field, how well they were able to play. If
24:24
Speaker 1: that elements into it, they can have a six out
24:28
Speaker 1: of the last eleven games be that sort of game.
24:31
Speaker 1: If it's not, they can still be good enough to
24:33
Speaker 1: win if they play their time. The offense is good
24:36
Speaker 1: enough the way that means she was moving the ball.
24:38
Speaker 1: If if they just stop Bonifon, right, who Reggie Bonifon,
24:43
Speaker 1: you have thirty nine yard run to stop him? You
24:45
Speaker 1: know you have to shot to win the game. Um.
24:49
Speaker 1: If that's all we're asking them to do is to
24:51
Speaker 1: take thirty nine yards off the rushing total, they still
24:53
Speaker 1: would be giving up more than two forty five yards,
24:56
Speaker 1: but they would have won. Okay, Yeah, I think the
25:00
Speaker 1: more so it's they're driving for a field goal at
25:02
Speaker 1: the end of the ball game to win. The need
25:04
Speaker 1: for consistency, it's so up and down every week. You
25:07
Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna get. Are you gonna get
25:08
Speaker 1: nine and a half sacks? Or is the run defense
25:10
Speaker 1: not going to be there every week. It's just been
25:12
Speaker 1: so don't forget. And we've talked about this. There's a
25:16
Speaker 1: lot of money that's been committed to the defensive side
25:19
Speaker 1: of the ball that's starting to shift a little bit.
25:21
Speaker 1: You know, you're going to see a guy like Marcel
25:23
Speaker 1: Darius and maybe more go away next year. That money
25:27
Speaker 1: has to be spent on the offensive side of the
25:29
Speaker 1: ball when you have a quarterback possibly on the offensive
25:32
Speaker 1: Unfortunately they're already spending Yeah, but yeah, that's but there
25:41
Speaker 1: Clearly there's some spaces where you've got to get better.
25:43
Speaker 1: You tight end, you need more help on the offensive line.
25:46
Speaker 1: There's there's places to spend the money on the defensive
25:49
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball, which means you're
25:51
Speaker 1: gonna need to get more from your defense, but for
25:54
Speaker 1: less and amazingly coming up in which high it you're
26:00
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay as arch attack. Yeah, because he's
26:06
Speaker 1: the real deal. YEA, eighteen months we're planning in advance
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Speaker 1: all right, let's stop. Let's start top tweets with a
28:03
Speaker 1: bit of a negative. We know the issues with penalties
28:05
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars NFL leaders and number of accepted penalties
28:09
Speaker 1: through five weeks. You see a number two right there,
28:12
Speaker 1: Jaguars offensive lineman Joewan Taylor. The guy behind him, number three,
28:17
Speaker 1: David Baktieri, is considered one of the best two or
28:20
Speaker 1: three left tackles in the game. I'm all right with that.
28:24
Speaker 1: I look, you don't want those, but if you go
28:26
Speaker 1: talk to the Jaguars coaches, they'll tell you, yeah, we've
28:28
Speaker 1: got to get that number down. But the kids playing
28:30
Speaker 1: pretty well, he'll be fine. Out of a rookie through
28:33
Speaker 1: five games. That again, I'm not say it doesn't bother
28:36
Speaker 1: me a bit. But you hear nothing of boy, this
28:41
Speaker 1: kid might not be it because of acts. He's fine.
28:46
Speaker 1: If there are whispers in the hallway about a young player,
28:48
Speaker 1: you hear them. The whispers bounce and reverberate and get
28:52
Speaker 1: back into everyone's ears, and you can just see the
28:55
Speaker 1: long faces. Oh, not this kid. There's a lot of
28:58
Speaker 1: smiling faces about what they think he's capable. I'm sure
29:01
Speaker 1: it's more so just coming from being a rookie. Well
29:03
Speaker 1: he's and he's he's faced some good pass rushers. J. J.
29:06
Speaker 1: Watt comes to mind. You know last week, he's seen
29:09
Speaker 1: some good ones. When you're a rookie tackle, there are
29:13
Speaker 1: situations not in the red zone, but there are situations
29:16
Speaker 1: where I hold rather than get your quarterback hit. Is
29:22
Speaker 1: the way to go. Now, when you're first in goal
29:26
Speaker 1: at the eight, you don't do that. But there are
29:29
Speaker 1: situations where, look, don't get the quarterback hit. But no,
29:33
Speaker 1: don't get the quarterback hit. So what you need to
29:36
Speaker 1: do occasionally you're gonna take a hold in this league
29:39
Speaker 1: because pass rushers are good. I mean, think about it,
29:41
Speaker 1: he's faced um what von Miller uh cam Wake had
29:46
Speaker 1: a really big game the week before. He came here
29:48
Speaker 1: with the Titans and you're seeing some stud pass rushers
29:51
Speaker 1: over the top of him. Well, yeah, I had to
29:55
Speaker 1: get the quarterback, all right. Now, we stir up some
29:58
Speaker 1: drama with top tweeting I'm to Telvin Smith. Haven't heard
30:01
Speaker 1: his name in a while. He's always on Instagram, He's
30:03
Speaker 1: posting versus and all these things, and he posted this
30:06
Speaker 1: talking about how he's realized lately that he's not getting
30:10
Speaker 1: paid for what he's worth, which is a little confusing
30:12
Speaker 1: because he did get that contract extension when he's with
30:14
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. What's he doing right now exactly? Jalen Ramsey comments,
30:19
Speaker 1: speaking brother, which is a little confusing as well because
30:23
Speaker 1: we've always talked about it's not about the money for Jalen. Well,
30:26
Speaker 1: it is about the money for Jalen. There's whole thing
30:28
Speaker 1: is about the money for If Mr Khan broke out
30:30
Speaker 1: the checkbook and made him the highest paid defensive player
30:33
Speaker 1: in the game, Jalen would be in the locker room
30:35
Speaker 1: getting ready to be be calling the stains this week if
30:37
Speaker 1: he's not already. But there's no doubt in my mind
30:40
Speaker 1: it's about the money Telvin got paid. If Telvin is
30:42
Speaker 1: saying that he's not being paid what he's worth. Will
30:44
Speaker 1: please tell me what is he doing right now? So
30:48
Speaker 1: we'll post this. A little confused was freaking out, saying,
30:51
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, talking, I don't know what's going on
30:56
Speaker 1: with Alvin, So I don't want to make light of it.
30:59
Speaker 1: But if he posted something that implies that there is
31:05
Speaker 1: a money issue value issue, then uh, he should just
31:11
Speaker 1: not do that. Maybe should He's walked away from nine
31:16
Speaker 1: and a half million dollars this year, so again, I
31:19
Speaker 1: don't pretend to know the detail of that, but if
31:23
Speaker 1: you're going to post it publicly, you're gonna get commented on.
31:25
Speaker 1: So if that's what he meant, that's should not do that.
31:30
Speaker 1: And and Jalen's response to that simply reinforces the belief
31:34
Speaker 1: this is all about the money. Even though it's a
31:38
Speaker 1: press conference, he said, it's not all it's professional football.
31:42
Speaker 1: It's about the money. And if I'm him, by the way, look,
31:47
Speaker 1: if i'm him, I'm making three point six million this year,
31:49
Speaker 1: and I think I'm the best corner in the game.
31:51
Speaker 1: I want it. It's all about the money. Pay me
31:54
Speaker 1: and pay me what I'm worth. I would make that argument.
31:57
Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right, let's end it with a positive
31:59
Speaker 1: On top two weeks, Leonard Fournett was the guest on
32:01
Speaker 1: Jaguars All Access last week, hugging kids, kissing babies, the
32:05
Speaker 1: whole nine yards, and a Jaguars fan tweets this out
32:08
Speaker 1: because he watched the Leonard for Net documentary and you
32:10
Speaker 1: hear in that documentary documentary and Leonard Fournette's dad saying,
32:14
Speaker 1: if you meet Leonard, you love Leonard. Anyone that knows
32:17
Speaker 1: Leonard doesn't not love him. And you see these pictures
32:20
Speaker 1: here with four of his daughters, the Jaguars fan, he's
32:23
Speaker 1: hugging him, they're taking pictures. It was cool to see
32:26
Speaker 1: Leonard stayed well after the show to take pictures with everyone,
32:29
Speaker 1: and it definitely shows the growth that we were talking
32:31
Speaker 1: about earlier in the show. Ye and it's funny. I
32:34
Speaker 1: I uh, for the first two years, I can't speak
32:37
Speaker 1: for how Leonard was with every fan out there all
32:40
Speaker 1: the time. Uh. I can only speak to how he
32:43
Speaker 1: was with the media when we were around. And there
32:47
Speaker 1: were moments you saw this, but there was also a
32:50
Speaker 1: lot when he felt like a young guy who didn't
32:54
Speaker 1: want to let everybody in and that's okay. Um, because
32:59
Speaker 1: they're coming to this league. It's really overwhelming and it's
33:01
Speaker 1: it's hard to know what's coming at you and how
33:05
Speaker 1: to present yourself. Um. So a lot of the reason
33:08
Speaker 1: I think people didn't see this part of Leonard's is
33:10
Speaker 1: because he didn't show it in the locker room. He's
33:13
Speaker 1: always been enormously popular and there when the cameras have
33:16
Speaker 1: gone off, We've all seen that part of him, and
33:21
Speaker 1: I think fans are starting to see it too. My
33:24
Speaker 1: guess is it's Leonard feeling more comfortable in his own shoes,
33:29
Speaker 1: in his own skin. He's got a lot of shoes,
33:30
Speaker 1: by the way, um, and just being more comfortable with
33:34
Speaker 1: it and realizing this is where he is and this
33:37
Speaker 1: is his time. It's really cool to see Brian. I
33:40
Speaker 1: remember the first time that he did, you know, his
33:43
Speaker 1: his media gathering in the locker room as a rookie.
33:45
Speaker 1: He had this glow about him and you could tell
33:48
Speaker 1: this kid's special. And then last year that kid was
33:51
Speaker 1: nowhere to be found, nowhere every time he came in. Um,
33:56
Speaker 1: it was just gone. This year to see it back, Uh,
34:00
Speaker 1: it's gratifying. Uh. That photo of the girls and Leonard.
34:05
Speaker 1: You know, you see Leonard giving his shoes away to
34:07
Speaker 1: a special needs child here before the Chiefs game. He's
34:11
Speaker 1: a very generous person and it appears that he's grown up.
34:16
Speaker 1: Good for him. He's got the potential to let that
34:19
Speaker 1: person that his father knows out. He's not done a
34:22
Speaker 1: good job of letting that person out enough, but he's
34:26
Speaker 1: on the right track. But no, I agree last year
34:27
Speaker 1: we didn't see that at all, as there's nobody in
34:30
Speaker 1: this room that would have said that that's a great
34:32
Speaker 1: kid after last year. What's amazing is here's a guy
34:36
Speaker 1: who if we've been doing this show in May and
34:40
Speaker 1: and we had taken a poll and said will he
34:43
Speaker 1: be here in two thousand twenty um, even though it
34:47
Speaker 1: was the fourth year of his rookie deal and coming cheap,
34:50
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody would have had any confidence that
34:52
Speaker 1: would have been the case, as talent as he was. Now,
34:55
Speaker 1: when you say who are going to be the important
34:57
Speaker 1: pieces of this offense in two thousand twenty, I think
35:00
Speaker 1: right now you're looking at it and picking up the
35:02
Speaker 1: option after this season and making sure that he's here
35:06
Speaker 1: through at least five because the way he's playing, he's
35:09
Speaker 1: a crucial part, and he's important to the whole thing,
35:13
Speaker 1: meaning the whole dynamic, the whole off field, the whole stuff.
35:16
Speaker 1: So unbelievable Turner. I can't say it enough. Remember Gus
35:19
Speaker 1: used to say, Um, I've got it. Are the three
35:21
Speaker 1: most dangerous words. I got this in professional football, And
35:26
Speaker 1: I felt like after that was his approach. I got it,
35:30
Speaker 1: and we saw what happen did not happen. Then the
35:34
Speaker 1: kid who said I don't like cold weather goes to
35:36
Speaker 1: Wyoming and works and gets better, and it appears he's
35:40
Speaker 1: put that aside and said I have to get this.
35:42
Speaker 1: That's the difference. Um, will he do that after this season?
35:47
Speaker 1: Will that continue? Because he could easily slide back to
35:50
Speaker 1: what last year? It's all on him. Um, show me,
35:55
Speaker 1: let's see it. He's on pace, He's on pace. You've
35:59
Speaker 1: got you got the remarkable Turner. You got the a
36:02
Speaker 1: f c's leading rusher and the a f c's leading
36:04
Speaker 1: receiver and a sixth round quarterback who's captured the imagination
36:08
Speaker 1: of nearly everyone in North Florida. It's a fun story
36:11
Speaker 1: to tell. Now, if the defense can just play somewhere
36:14
Speaker 1: near its potential, you've got a nice little run here.
36:17
Speaker 1: It would seem like there's an opportunity for them to
36:20
Speaker 1: get going. Gotta Get Going. Gotta Get Going starts on Sunday,
36:25
Speaker 1: and with that we and our program. But not before
36:27
Speaker 1: we tell you that head coach Doug Marrone is on
36:29
Speaker 1: the podium in about an hour, Gardner minshew. We've all
36:32
Speaker 1: liked his press conferences lately. He will talk to us
36:35
Speaker 1: this afternoon in Jaguars Happy Hour later on at four o'clock.
36:38
Speaker 1: We'll see tomorrow