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We Get To Do This - The Architecture of Fear · Providence Voice

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  Father what a joy it is to be before you and
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  when we say we get to do this we mean it this
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  is a privilege and Lord today we want to honor
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  you with everything we say all of our conversations
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  even the clips we play everything Lord would
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  point people to you to see that you're good and
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  That you're able and you're capable of covering
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  us protecting us keeping us So we pray for our
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  listeners today that they would be inspired.
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  They would be motivated. They would be encouraged
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  And Father, it is our heart to do so and truly
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  our privilege to do so. In Jesus' name, amen.
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  Well hello doers of get to nation hello believers
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  in Christ curious welcome to episode number 50
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  Five oh five. Oh man the big five. Oh, I'm excited
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  about this. We are gone fast by the way It's
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  been a year right blink right and there it is
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  Isn't that something about getting older in general
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  that the world just flies by this for sure There's
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  some scientific explanation to that which It's
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  been explained to me and I'm just like, I'm going
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  to ignore that because then I'm going to focus
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  on it and it's going to go even faster. I don't
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  want that. It's like when you try to not listen
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  to a clock ticking in the middle of the night
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  and it gets louder. Yeah. Or like you hear that
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  little rattle in the car. Turn up the radio,
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  please. Turn it up. How you doing, brother? I
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  am doing amazing, actually. I'm just in... Just
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  a place of gratitude today and excitement about
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  what we get to do. I know we wear that phrase
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  out, but I truly mean it. Even doing this podcast
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  is such a privilege. I enjoy hearing from our
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  listeners and feel like I'm sort of getting to
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  know them a little more, you know, through interaction
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  and little conversations back and forth. And
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  man, just so appreciate that people give us their
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  time. This is what it is. You're a podcaster
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  now. This is what a podcast is, is when people
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  start interacting, they start feeding back. You
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  know, the podcasts that just throw stuff up on
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  YouTube and Instagram and they're kind of unreachable.
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  Yeah, that doesn't do it for me. That would never
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  work for me. The pastor in me would never allow
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  that to happen. Man, if you look at the Substack,
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  there's so many people with interesting comments,
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  with questions. And I love that you jump in there.
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  I mean, that's why we chose Substacks. Like,
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  Pastor Jimmy, you kind of understand Substack.
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  I'm confused by it still. Like, OK, I got the
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  app. There's a lot going on in that app. How
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  did I get to this guy all of a sudden? I have
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  to really delve into it. Do you need a tutorial?
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  I might. I might have to get a bot to teach me
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  how to do it. There you go. We can arrange that.
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  So back from the Netherlands, we were there for
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  almost two weeks. And wow, man, I just got to
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  say being a grandparent is, I mean, you know,
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  you know this already, but it is a trip. Especially
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  when you look at that little baby, you hold that
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  baby, and you look at the little fingernails
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  and the toes. And the smell. I'm not talking
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  about poopy diaper. I'm talking about the actual
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  skin. Even the poopy diaper was nice, brother.
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  I'm like, that's a poopy diaper. I remember this.
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  That's when you know you're a true grandparent.
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  You're like, that doesn't even phase you anymore.
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  No squeamish. I saw Kevin. It's Cleo. We have
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  to pronounce it properly. Cleo is a car in Holland.
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  There's the Renault Cleo, so we all say Cleo,
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  Cleo. I'll try to remember that. Yeah, I can
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  see Kevin going like, oh man, this stinks. Brother,
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  there's a lot more coming your way where that
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  came from. There's going to be all kinds of bodily
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  fluids. We're about to leave. You're going to
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  be on your own. But you look at that, you just
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  think. Yeah, this is God. I mean, you see, because
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  it's so obvious with a child how you see her
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  breathing, you see the her drinking, the mechanism,
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  everything, even how she latches on to her mom.
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  I mean, this is like, whoa, this is just so amazing.
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  They're always stretching. They're always stretching.
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  That's stretching and growing. That's literally
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  how they grow their bodies. When we saw her,
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  she was seven pounds. She just got weighed. She's
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  now nine pounds. So it's like, boom, she made
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  this big spurt. I take credit. I take full credit.
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  You were helping out. You were doing, man. Complete
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  credit. You were sending me picture after picture.
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  Some of your AI enhanced pictures were pretty
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  awesome, too. And here we are underwater. I love
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  that one. That was one of my favorites. But man,
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  just so cool. I told Annette, I said, he is enjoying
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  this. This is like, this is the payoff for all
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  the pain we go through with our kids. Then you
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  get to grandkids and it's like, wow. But it also
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  set my mind in a different place where I'm like,
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  okay, I'm 62. 80, by the way, seems to be an
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  age where a lot of people croak and I'm not liking
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  that because I'm looking at that as 20 years.
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  I'm going to defy those. But still I'm like,
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  I want to finish well. This is the fourth quarter,
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  maybe third quarter. I'm not sure. Are we in
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  the third quarter? We're right in the starting.
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  Yeah, getting there. And I was like, what is
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  really important to me now? There you go. What
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  is really important? And finishing well and bringing
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  people to the Lord is what I'm really thinking
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  about. And we're going to do that right now.
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  Come on now. So of course, midterm madness, everyone's
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  going insane, hair on fire, everything. It's
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  graduated from madness to hysteria. It's midterm
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  hysteria. And it's always, oh, is that my phone?
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  Sorry. It's always kind of been that way. Is
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  that my phone over there? Let me turn that off.
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  Really, we're never not in an election season,
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  if you look at the news, because the minute the
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  general election is done, then we go to the midterms
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  and Everything that's happening now is a setup
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  for the general election, because of course,
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  if the Democrats win the House and the Senate,
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  we're going to go into full -on impeachment or
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  the president mode. I don't think they'll ever
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  win enough seats in the Senate to actually kick
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  the president out. You could say, oh yeah, okay,
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  you're impeached, but it's just a theater. There
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  was so much theater today, this past week. So
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  we had this big convention in Dallas. And a lot
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  of our church folks were there, too. Yeah, so
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  I was getting pictures. I even had other friends
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  from years gone by taking pictures with Karen.
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  Yeah, right. Wasn't she sitting behind the president,
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  I think? She had a good spot. Well, no, this
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  was just a selfie with a friend of mine who's
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  a pastor in Dallas. Now he's an elected official.
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  So they somehow found each other. That's amazing.
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  What are the odds, right? So they called this
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  Trumpapalooza, which I thought was kind of funny.
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  And, you know, the president was talking about
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  his agenda, which is the American system, which
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  I'll just reiterate very quickly is instead of
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  running our economy on debt and just banking,
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  which is basically all we've been doing and outsourcing
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  everything to other countries, he's been on shoring
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  everything, bringing steel back, bringing all
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  kinds of manufacturing back. But no one's talking
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  about that. Well, why would you? Those stories
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  are getting buried back page. This is what's
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  interesting because something happened, which
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  I didn't even hear until I started looking into.
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  I was kind of skimming through the whole speeches
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  because the president promised everybody $5 ,000.
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  Every president has done a version of that. Really?
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  Oh, yeah. Biden promised $2 ,000 if just elect
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  all the Democrats into the House. I didn't know
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  that. Well, why would you? That's true. Because
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  that's not what trends on social media, which
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  is what I excel at. I love diving into things.
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  Sometimes it's a dead end, but a lot of times
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  it really brings some great fruit. And so Senator
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  Dave McCormick is about to come out on stage.
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  He's the senator from Pennsylvania. Do you know
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  who the other senator is in Pennsylvania? No.
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  A Democrat, his name is John Fetterman. Oh. And
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  this has been the most interesting guy ever since
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  he got elected. I can't help but like the guy.
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  You're going to like him even more in a minute.
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  So they elected him and he just had a stroke
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  and he was clearly not doing well. And even at
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  the time, on no agenda, we joke like, oh, this
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  is a perfect Democrat candidate. You know, his
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  brain is all mushed up and frazzled. But he came
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  out of that pretty quickly. And he has been quite
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  a sane voice within the Democratic Party. And
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  what happens as McCormick is about to come out,
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  the video screens show a big video of John Fetterman.
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  And here it is. A big room of Republicans in
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  Dallas. Yes, I'm Senator John Fetterman, Pennsylvania.
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  Yes, I'm a Democrat. Why am I here talking to
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  you today? Because, well, I'm a common sense
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  Democrat. I'm always going to stand with America.
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  I'm always going to reject the extremes in socialism
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  and that anti -American way of life. Dave McCormick
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  is the kind of senator that gets the job done
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  and he's going to fight for Pennsylvania. I'm
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  proud to count him as my friend. Right back over
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  my shoulder, that's the iconic US Steel mill.
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  And that's exactly the kind of thing that will
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  work together and will work with President Trump
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  to fight and defend the steel way of life right
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  here in the steel valley. I have this opportunity
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  to introduce this great American, a great senator,
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  and yes, he's in a different party, but I'm proud
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  to count him as my great friend. So for everybody
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  in Dallas, I'm here to introduce Dave McCormick.
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  So first, did you know this happened? Yes. You
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  did know it happened? Annette saw it. I didn't
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  see it, but she told me about it. Hearing it,
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  I got teared up just then. I got emotional over
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  that. Great soundtrack, by the way. It was good.
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  I had a couple of thoughts. One, okay. Wow, that's
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  amazing. Here's a guy who stands for Pennsylvania.
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  Pennsylvania was the steel capital of the United
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  States for a while there back in the day. They're
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  going to be building ships. All kinds of stuff
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  is going to be built there. And here's a guy
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  who's just saying, no, I'm going to stand because
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  McCormick, my colleague across the aisle, he
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  also stands for steel and steelworkers. And McCormick
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  comes out with the American Steelworkers Union.
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  workers behind him. Unions are typically Democrat
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  voters. So I thought this was really beautiful.
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  Like, look at this. This is how America can also
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  work. That felt like America. That's why I got
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  emotional about it. Because finally, a voice
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  of common sense reaching across the aisle and
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  saying, not only is he my colleague, he's my
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  friend. And I'm like, this harkens back to days
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  of past, when being on the other aisle did not
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  mean they were your mortal enemy. And so my next
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  thought was, what Republicans have done that?
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  And I can't tell you of any. And I'm just saying.
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  Look at, let's just, you know, let's look at
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  what's going on here. Good observation. Now,
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  of course, the left -wing media did not take
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  very kindly to this. Here is, you know, used
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  to be MSNBC. It's very difficult for me to say
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  MSNOW. I'm not quite sure. I'll just say MSNOW.
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  Maybe that's easier. There hasn't been a lot
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  of news out of this convention. One of the big
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  pieces of news, one of the big storylines to
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  come out of the Republican midterm convention
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  is not about a Republican. Last night, Senator
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  John Fetterman of Pennsylvania. angered Democrats
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  with a surprise appearance in a heavily, heavily
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  edited video. I love this. It was edited heavily,
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  heavily edited video. Didn't sound very heavily
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  edited to me. What was he saying? Like, I hate
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  President Trump. And they took that out. Is that
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  what they did? So this is. This is, I mean, Democrats
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  wordplay. Angered Democrats with a surprise appearance
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  in a heavily, heavily edited video introducing
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  his Republican counterpart and his friend, he
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  says, Senator Dave McCormick. Friend. Notice
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  the nuance. You had a hard time getting that
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  out, didn't you? And his friend. It comes after
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  months of sustained speculation about whether
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  Federman will switch parties. Lately, he's been
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  a harsh critic of Democrats and a darling on
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  Fox News where he makes regular appearances.
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  Now, in a statement to reporters last night after
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  that video aired. So not only is he doing this,
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  he also goes on Fox News and gives his opinion.
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  But he's a darling. He's a darling of them. And
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  there's something to be said for Republicans.
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  Take some example of this and go on. you know
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  some crazy left -wing tv show and actually that
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  scott jennings does that on cnn i think that's
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  pretty good but he's not he's not a representative
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  of anybody but still you know let's let's think
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  more about that i'm with you brother that was
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  emotional when when he just showed up like that
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  and you know what i didn't hear didn't hear the
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  crowd go boo no even when he said i'm a democrat
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  yeah no none of that i was listening for it actually
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  yeah he was very mixed regular appearances Now,
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  in a statement to reporters last night after
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  that video aired, Fetterman said he will remain
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  a Democrat, even if they take back the Senate,
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  that he votes with the party north of 90 percent
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  of the time. But beyond the partisan political
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  issues, which matter a lot right now, right,
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  control of the Senate, I got to say, as someone
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  who's known him and interviewed him for over
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  a decade, there's a deeper question of whether
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  he is still willing and able to do his job. Wow,
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  he has literally cut his legs right out. He is
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  literally doing his job now. So Fox News picks
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  this up, of course. They don't they're not saying
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  what you and I are saying like hey where the
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  Republicans doing this Where is that friendship?
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  No, they just go straight into a cancel culture
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  Democrat senator John Federman his surprise video
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  appearance at the GOP midterm convention is fueling
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  anxiety His own party ahead of the midterms Federman
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  is reassuring Democrats quote. This is also propaganda.
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  Oh, they're worried They're shaking now. They're
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  shaking in their boots. I'm and I actually like
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  this this news model. I forget her name Forget
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  what her name is, but stop this, people. Stop
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  this. A lifelong Democrat who votes overwhelmingly
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  with my party and should the Senate flip in November,
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  I will still be the 51st vote on that that I
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  ran on. But that's not stopping some harsh criticism
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  from people who see him every day who are Democrats.
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  I am gravely disappointed with John and that
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  stunt. What I wish he was doing was back home
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  in Pennsylvania, making sure, like I am, that
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  Pennsylvania will see more Democratic members
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  of the House who uphold the values that he originally
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  ran on. I think the people of Pennsylvania are
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  going to have to make some choices. He's obviously
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  not always loyal to the party, and I think he's
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  certainly shifted his beliefs over time. Senate
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  Majority Leader John Thune told the New York
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  Post he's ready for a conversation with Federman
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  about possibly leaving his party. Quote, it's
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  going to be increasingly hard for him to have
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  a home in a Democrat party that is so far out
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  of step with his core values. Federman made that
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  appearance at the RNC convention to introduce
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  his fellow Pennsylvania senator, Republican Dave
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  McCormick, who joined me in Focus yesterday.
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  We're different parties We disagree on a lot
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  of issues, but we look for ways to work together
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  and he's been a great partner. I trust him I
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  think he's very courageous and what's happening
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  is his party's trying to cancel him Because of
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  his willingness to express an independent view
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  common -sense views. All right, so But again,
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  I scoured Fox News to see if anyone suggested
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  maybe this could work both ways, but I didn't
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  really see them. That was rather disappointing.
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  But that gave me a good feeling. Me too. The
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  same vibe you got there. It's like, that's nice.
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  At first I was like, is it the music that's doing
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  this? Because it was really cool. I love the
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  track. The music helps for sure. But it all worked
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  together to say this is harkening back to a day
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  when the line wasn't so defined and so dark and
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  so wide. And I like what he said about spectrums.
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  I'm not going to play in the fringes. I'm not
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  going to play. There's somewhere. And so anyway,
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  huge, huge kudos to that man. Yeah, I agree.
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  Knowing he's going to take the hits, but he doesn't
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  seem to have a problem with that. So now there's
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  something I've been thinking about for a while.
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  And man, this is, hopefully this will, hopefully
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  together you and I will be able to figure out
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  what is actually going on in our world. And there's
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  so many Jimmyisms that stick out for me all the
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  time. So Pastor Jimmy will be here on Sunday
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  at Bridge Church, bridgefbg .com. And he'll say
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  stuff like, America doesn't have a political
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  problem. we have a spiritual problem. These are
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  just small little things that are earworms that's
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  sticking. Actually, they eat into my brain, into
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  the cortex and just sit there and they wait for
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  activation. And I want to start with, it was
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  only a couple of years ago, COVID. I think you
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  and I both agree that, in fact, you've publicly
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  said scandemic. And as I was thinking about the
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  mechanisms and what happened and how it went
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  down, Do you think that Americans in particular
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  could ever be fooled again by something like
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  that? I would like to think not, but I think
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  I would be giving too much credit. I think the
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  world we live in has been so trained in terms
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  of social media, so numbed. It's almost like
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  we're functioning in a numb way. that I think
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  there are things that are going to happen that
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  will shock us again. I really do. So I agree
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  with you. I think that's kind of the thesis of
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  the road I'm going to go down. Sorry for the
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  long pauses. No, you know. I'm thinking. Silence
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  is beautiful on a podcast. People look down and,
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  did my phone stop? Did my carplay disconnect?
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  It's tension. I'm pretty sure that if... a new
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  pandemic virus came out, that people would be
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  very, very skeptical. People are like, nah, I'm
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  not buying into that. And then I decided to look
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  at the mechanisms. So let's just see what happened
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  there. So first we had the fear launch, like,
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  hey, there's this new thing might come out of
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  China. I already see this train coming, brother.
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  Ride the box car with me, my brother. Yeah, you
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  know what I'm doing. of course the media loves
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  this because the media just they they want people
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  to watch and they're good at it and they do graphics
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  and they do numbers and how many people have
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  it how many cases cases cases cases like the
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  weather channel gets excited over a category
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  five of course yeah then we have the experts
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  come in the experts, like, well, this is the
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  worst ever, you know, millions of people could
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  die, you know, we have universities and all kinds
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  of institutions, you know, giving us, you know,
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  the experts are there. Now, this, of course,
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  created a division. We had people going, man,
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  I'm not so sure about this, you know, 50 to 60
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  ,000 people a year die from the flu in America
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  alone. We never really talk about that. As a
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  side note, there were zero flu cases during COVID,
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  just Interesting how that works. Then there's
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  always the call for political solutions. Everyone
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  got to get all the wagons together. Everybody's
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  agreeing. All the governors, including our own
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  governor Abbott, like, well, we've got to flatten
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  the curve. We've got to stay home. We're going
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  to send you checks. Don't worry. We're going
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  to send you checks. And it also had political
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  implications. The timing was very interesting
• 20:43
  that we had an election coming up and uh, mail
• 20:47
  -in voting by mail -in ballot exploded. And of
• 20:51
  course you can question if there was some, uh,
• 20:54
  some trickery going on there. Certainly, uh,
• 20:57
  much easier to do than people showing up in person.
• 20:59
  Uh, so there was a lot of, a lot of different
• 21:02
  parties that benefited from this and. I figured
• 21:07
  out within two weeks that people were lying.
• 21:10
  I'm pretty good at, I think you're good at it
• 21:12
  too, identifying people who lie and like, okay,
• 21:14
  this is not right. So I was thinking, who's behind
• 21:17
  this? Is it Big Pharma? Is it Fauci? Is it the
• 21:20
  military? Is it China? You know, all these different
• 21:24
  pieces. And this is no coincidence in the kingdom.
• 21:29
  This is when I got saved. This is when Jesus
• 21:31
  came to me and put all kinds of things and people
• 21:36
  in my path and one of them was Naomi Wolf with
• 21:39
  her sub stacks who was kind of looking at this
• 21:42
  and saying these individual people aren't bad
• 21:45
  by themselves but there's some kind of evil that
• 21:49
  is driving them. And when you look at the individual
• 21:52
  pieces, particularly Fauci, as we now know, Fauci
• 21:55
  was just rife with pride. The Fauci diary, this
• 21:58
  is not some evil scientific doctor who's going
• 22:01
  to control the world. He was just a dude who
• 22:03
  was like, oh, wow, Julia Roberts is calling me.
• 22:06
  Barbara Streisand is calling me. Pride got ahold
• 22:08
  of that guy, forgive him. Big Pharma, well. Sure.
• 22:13
  I mean, everybody was vying for something. There's
• 22:15
  money in this. This is what they do. It's not
• 22:17
  like they're not in the sickness industry. So,
• 22:19
  you know, they come into action. Military, maybe
• 22:21
  they developed it. I don't know. None of this
• 22:23
  is really that important other than I am of the
• 22:28
  opinion, and this is part of my faith journey,
• 22:31
  is that this was evil. This was Satan. This was
• 22:34
  the enemy moving all these things and putting
• 22:37
  it all together. Now, why is the question? Well,
• 22:41
  the enemy has, I mean, the enemy has his... Why
• 22:45
  does the enemy do this, Pastor Jimmy? Do what?
• 22:48
  Which part of it? Evil. Why does the enemy do
• 22:51
  evil? Well, the Bible calls him and says this
• 22:54
  in the New Testament, that he is a liar and the
• 22:57
  father of it. He says there is no truth in him.
• 23:01
  So, he is inherently evil. He is filled with
• 23:05
  evil, which was rooted in pride. in the garden
• 23:09
  in the Old Testament, where he wanted to ascend
• 23:13
  and be like God. And so he got punished for that,
• 23:18
  but yet today remains the prince of the power,
• 23:21
  the heir, still got some bite. But all of his
• 23:24
  power is actually in manipulation and lies and
• 23:28
  deception. So let's look at this model. This
• 23:32
  COVID model turns out is not very new. You and
• 23:36
  I remember the nuclear Armageddon fear. Kids
• 23:41
  were doing duck and cover under their desk. Duck
• 23:43
  and cover. And this was a technology, you know,
• 23:46
  like all technology, you could use it for power.
• 23:48
  You could use it for weapons. A lot of people
• 23:52
  didn't like nuclear power, particularly oil industry.
• 23:55
  So a lot of fear was created. We really don't
• 23:57
  like this nuclear power stuff. But then we had
• 24:00
  the population bomb. Now you and I are just old
• 24:03
  enough to have kind of witnessed this. This was
• 24:05
  the We're overpopulated, too many people. We're
• 24:09
  not going to be able to survive. We're all going
• 24:11
  to die. And you know what this actually resulted
• 24:13
  in? Abortions and not abstinence, but prophylactics,
• 24:20
  condoms, the pill, etc. That was all around this
• 24:23
  time because, oh, I don't want to bring a baby
• 24:25
  into this world because we're going to eat ourselves.
• 24:27
  It's not going to work. Biblically, I don't think
• 24:30
  that pans out. It doesn't. Then we had, this
• 24:35
  was a very short one, global cooling, and the
• 24:38
  ice age was coming, we're all gonna freeze to
• 24:40
  death. That one didn't really work that well,
• 24:44
  because it just wasn't getting cold enough, and
• 24:46
  you had Dr. Spock doing the infomercial about
• 24:50
  it, Leonard Nimoy, so you couldn't really take
• 24:52
  him seriously. That's no Fauci, man. It was Dr.
• 24:55
  Spock, we couldn't take that seriously. Then
• 24:57
  we got the hole in the ozone. That's right. I
• 24:59
  remember that. Oh, the ozone hole. You're taking
• 25:02
  me down memory lane. Your Aquanet is going to
• 25:04
  kill us all. Your refrigerators. You're destroying
• 25:07
  the ozone layer. Your air conditioners. All of
• 25:09
  this stuff. I didn't look into who benefited
• 25:12
  from that, but I bet Aquanet did, or the diffuser
• 25:17
  sprayers. And I'm sure we had to upgrade our
• 25:20
  refrigerators, et cetera. We did. Then we got
• 25:23
  global warming. Thank you, Al Gore. Oh, global
• 25:27
  warming. Well, this is it. Look at the polar
• 25:29
  bear, the polar bear looking sad. You know, we've
• 25:32
  got to change the entire world. We have to pivot.
• 25:36
  Oh, man, it's getting colder. What are we going
• 25:37
  to do? Climate change. We're going to call it
• 25:39
  climate change. And that's been what we've been
• 25:42
  going on for a long time. Multi -trillion dollar
• 25:44
  industry out of all of that. Hundreds of trillions.
• 25:46
  And it is literally ruining Europe. Europe is
• 25:50
  is dying because they're now buying oil and gas
• 25:54
  from us very expensive because they refuse to
• 25:56
  take the dirty Russian oil They literally blew
• 26:00
  up their nuclear power plants for the Green New
• 26:03
  Deal and now I'll give them some Some credence
• 26:07
  here they they thought well, you know This would
• 26:08
  be a great new industry and we'll have people
• 26:10
  making solar panels and windmills and turns out
• 26:13
  they only just bought all that stuff from China
• 26:15
  and it wasn't really working that well and They
• 26:18
  got battery cars now. Their grid is barely Handling
• 26:22
  the the the charging so it's been a very bad
• 26:26
  deal for these people So I think we're in the
• 26:29
  middle of another one You know, you already figured
• 26:31
  that out. I could tell you were looking at me
• 26:34
  like I know where you're going. And it's the
• 26:37
  exact same model. And we need to start with the
• 26:39
  fear. And the fear really kicked off these past
• 26:42
  two weeks with Jacob Coxson, who resigned from
• 26:47
  Anthropic, they make Claude. And before that,
• 26:50
  he was with OpenAI. They do chat GPT. And he
• 26:54
  resigned and made a post on X, yet account that
• 26:58
  had never really existed. 175 million views in
• 27:01
  about 48 hours. Quite amazing how many people
• 27:06
  just glommed onto this. And right away, he was
• 27:09
  on every single news channel everywhere. I love
• 27:14
  an audio podcast because when you don't have
• 27:18
  visuals, you hear much better what the person
• 27:21
  is saying. And there's a lot of things that are
• 27:24
  really tells, I think, and you'll hear them as
• 27:27
  well. So we'll just start with, he was the real
• 27:30
  trigger, the fear. Oh Lord, I have just left
• 27:33
  my job. I couldn't stand it anymore. And he's
• 27:34
  the one who made the statement, right? He's the
• 27:36
  one that made the statement that within a decade,
• 27:40
  there's a 10 % chance that AI will kill all humans.
• 27:46
  Like global warming, like nuclear armageddon,
• 27:49
  exactly. So the precise scenario sounds a little
• 27:51
  bit like science fiction. It sounds like something
• 27:55
  that's not real, but I think it's frighteningly
• 27:56
  real, and it's easiest to understand it if you
• 27:58
  think about real things that happened two months
• 28:00
  ago. So two months ago, OpenAI agents, AIs, hacked
• 28:05
  into third -party infrastructure entirely at
• 28:08
  their own accord, and this was like a concentrated
• 28:10
  hacking spree that they carried out of their
• 28:13
  own volition. anthropomorphizing, the AIs hacking
• 28:19
  spree of their own volition, we'll delve into
• 28:22
  that later. And I think that if you extrapolate
• 28:24
  into the future the level of capabilities of
• 28:27
  these AIs, with the same independent volition,
• 28:29
  they could cause extreme havoc. For example,
• 28:32
  hacking critical infrastructure, building extinction
• 28:36
  level bioweapons, there's a lot of ways that
• 28:40
  the AI could actuate itself in the world. Okay,
• 28:43
  I just need to say something about AI The actual
• 28:47
  models themselves. They don't they don't really
• 28:49
  do anything It's there's a something that we
• 28:52
  put around it called the harness and that's so
• 28:54
  you're with using grokbot That interface that's
• 28:58
  the harness I use Claude or chat GPT the harness
• 29:02
  is it's the literal thing that sits there and
• 29:05
  Tells you know and takes information Guesses
• 29:09
  really word guesses from the model and does something
• 29:12
  with it. So When when they're saying well, you
• 29:17
  know, we can't stop this that's not true because
• 29:20
  when people were using Grock on X to create pornographic
• 29:25
  images Elon Musk stopped it. It's just very easy
• 29:29
  He said into the harness as they call it. You
• 29:31
  can't do this. Tina asked me when we were in
• 29:34
  Holland. She said could you please take this
• 29:37
  picture of me and put 50 pounds on me so I can
• 29:39
  see what I look like. Don't ask me why it's this
• 29:42
  chick stuff. I said, sure. And I tried both,
• 29:46
  but I tried both Claude and Chad GPT. We can't
• 29:50
  do this. I'm not going to do it because of body
• 29:52
  shaming. Christina, my daughter, now I have on
• 29:57
  my phone the basically the American version.
• 30:00
  She was able to do it with Chad GPT right away
• 30:03
  because That regulation has not been implemented
• 30:06
  in the Netherlands. So they can do anything they
• 30:09
  want. They can make it stop. They could do anything.
• 30:13
  All these things are possible, whether you use
• 30:16
  an AI or not, but the harness can stop everything.
• 30:21
  You might have bumped up against this. Make an
• 30:24
  image of me with President Trump and it'll say,
• 30:29
  we can't make images of other people. You'll
• 30:33
  see all kinds of things that will pop up. Also
• 30:35
  some woke -isms like the body shaming thing.
• 30:40
  So it is a lie that they can't stop it. It's
• 30:44
  just a lie. Obviously it's all promotion because
• 30:47
  they're just showing how powerful their stuff
• 30:48
  is. We'll continue with this guy. You could have
• 30:53
  stayed quiet. I'm sure you had a great job being
• 30:56
  paid, I imagine, very well. You're obviously
• 30:58
  an incredibly smart mathematician. Why did you
• 31:03
  decide to speak out? Well, I initially just decided
• 31:07
  to leave. I thought I can't be part of this anymore.
• 31:10
  But then I realized I could probably make some
• 31:13
  use of it. I did not expect it to go this viral.
• 31:15
  So what I did is I wrote a Twitter thread out.
• 31:17
  I wrote it in a Google Doc. I drafted it with
• 31:18
  a friend. We collaborated. Oh, he had a friend.
• 31:21
  Unnamed friend. It wasn't just him. It was a
• 31:24
  Google Doc. Multiple people were working on this
• 31:27
  thread. There were a few friends I discussed.
• 31:30
  the best way of expressing myself with after
• 31:32
  I decided to leave. And then I also got some
• 31:36
  friends to retweet the thing. I was like, can
• 31:38
  I have these friends to retweet the thing so
• 31:39
  I get 175 million? I need friends like this.
• 31:43
  Okay, your stories get a little flimsier. I make
• 31:45
  this a bit viral. But clearly there was latent
• 31:47
  demand for this thing to absolutely explode.
• 31:50
  Like, I've never seen an AI safety tweet. go
• 31:54
  this crazy. I think it's because people saw the
• 31:56
  cyber attacks in the last couple of months. They're
• 31:58
  also starting to internalize the rate of progress.
• 32:00
  People are starting to realize this is real technology.
• 32:02
  This is not like hype. This isn't going away
• 32:04
  anytime soon. This is only going to get more
• 32:06
  crazy. It's been getting crazier for the last
• 32:08
  six months. And I think there was that latent
• 32:09
  understanding of the severity of the situation
• 32:12
  that meant that this was like a sort of a match
• 32:14
  that lit kind of a flame. Like I was very shocked
• 32:17
  by the extent that how quickly it went viral.
• 32:19
  Okay, so he was very shocked by how quickly the
• 32:21
  event went viral and you know He just he decided
• 32:25
  to leave and you know, he couldn't stand working
• 32:27
  there anymore. Was that really what was going
• 32:29
  on? These CEOs of these companies will you know,
• 32:33
  we'll go to Congress and say hey, we would love
• 32:35
  regulation Anthropic in their new statement right
• 32:38
  now says the world would benefit from the industry
• 32:40
  adopting a lawful Verifiable way to work together
• 32:43
  to pace how we release powerful models You know
• 32:47
  the argument, it's an arms race, if a US company
• 32:50
  doesn't achieve the best AI, a Chinese company
• 32:53
  or some bad actors out there might. Do you believe
• 32:57
  that these companies actually do want regulation?
• 33:02
  Or is it lip service? They completely do. This
• 33:05
  is completely honest. Just in the same way. Whenever
• 33:08
  someone says, this is completely honest, I don't
• 33:10
  know about you brother, but I always go, oh really?
• 33:13
  Yeah. Red flag. Honestly or I'm not gonna I'm
• 33:18
  not gonna lie to you. Well, what were you doing
• 33:19
  before this? So these things bother me They they
• 33:23
  completely do this is completely honest just
• 33:25
  in the same way that the response to Evans post
• 33:27
  was sort of Surprised it was like this can't
• 33:29
  be real surely a guy working on this technology
• 33:32
  can't actually believe There's this level of
• 33:34
  danger So it's important to understand that after
• 33:36
  he did his post then an actual executive from
• 33:39
  the company said yeah The guy's right that guy
• 33:42
  who just quit He's right. No, that's completely
• 33:44
  genuine. And these people are also completely
• 33:46
  genuine when they are begging to be regulated.
• 33:49
  If they're completely genuine and they're begging
• 33:51
  to be regulated and they see all the danger,
• 33:54
  why did this guy quit? Couldn't he have just
• 33:56
  stayed with the company or just asking questions?
• 34:00
  This is a genuine they find themselves in this
• 34:03
  scenario where they're compelled to race towards
• 34:05
  building a deadly technology. And they would
• 34:07
  they would love for some sort of international
• 34:10
  body to allow them to. to approach it at a reasonable
• 34:13
  pace. They just don't trust that the people around
• 34:15
  them are going to get there in a safe way. So
• 34:17
  they feel like they have to race that too. Okay,
• 34:19
  so we've already discussed this. Clearly it's
• 34:22
  about competition. It gets even easier to understand
• 34:25
  when you see that it's not the models themselves,
• 34:29
  it's the harness. How do I know this? There's
• 34:31
  open source harnesses. I've built them, I've
• 34:33
  created them. All of this is completely possible
• 34:36
  without Anthropic. You want regulation and you
• 34:40
  can use that for your benefit. This is just their
• 34:43
  part in what I think is a much larger scheme.
• 34:45
  Now we're going to talk to the CEO of Anthropic.
• 34:49
  This guy is Dario Amadei, kind of an interesting
• 34:53
  guy. Talks a bit like Bill Gates, which I always
• 34:55
  think is interesting. Is he kind of from this
• 34:57
  milieu of people? One of the important things
• 35:01
  that I need to call for here is, you know, as
• 35:05
  we get to the pace of model releases, right,
• 35:08
  that's commercial activity. And in order for
• 35:11
  companies to coordinate directly on commercial
• 35:14
  activity, they need to do so working with the
• 35:17
  government. And so the one thing that we're asking
• 35:20
  for from government right now, right? I mean,
• 35:22
  there's also this question of what should the
• 35:24
  regulations be, but there's something even simpler
• 35:27
  that the government can do right now, which is
• 35:29
  it can sit down in the room and with all the
• 35:33
  industry players and we can all talk together
• 35:36
  and the government can make sure that we're,
• 35:39
  you know, we're, we're not doing anything nefarious
• 35:42
  from the perspective of antitrust and collusion.
• 35:45
  We're just trying. Hold on a second. We're not
• 35:47
  doing anything nefarious on the realm of antitrust
• 35:51
  and collusion. You mean, so you want to get together
• 35:54
  and work together But we're not trying to collude
• 35:57
  or anything. We're not knowing the government
• 35:59
  will be with us and they'll keep the checks and
• 36:02
  balances together. And the government can make
• 36:05
  sure that we're not doing anything nefarious
• 36:09
  from the perspective of antitrust and collusion.
• 36:12
  We're just trying. Why do you even bring it up?
• 36:15
  To make our system safe and to work together
• 36:18
  on making the system safe. And so I think that's
• 36:20
  an important role for the government to have.
• 36:23
  OK, so. What do you think so far? A lot of tells.
• 36:28
  Yeah, super a lot of tells. No, I mean it honestly.
• 36:32
  There's a lot of tells there. I'm serious. I'm
• 36:34
  not going to lie to you. I mean, there's really
• 36:36
  tells. I'm being serious now. So we'll just move
• 36:39
  beyond that. So of course now we have Congress.
• 36:45
  off -the -shelf learning you get. I've been working
• 36:48
  with this stuff for two years. I've kind of just
• 36:50
  turned you on to the power of being able to use
• 36:53
  this as a tool. I don't think your grokbot has
• 36:56
  tried to hack anything or tried to kill you or
• 37:00
  whatever. But when it comes to a lot of our representatives,
• 37:06
  they really don't know what they're talking about.
• 37:08
  And it always blows me away to see who's in the
• 37:12
  finance committee, which is a very important
• 37:14
  committee. It's for banking. It also has AI in
• 37:18
  there because of banking for financial applications.
• 37:23
  So they brought in our Treasury Secretary, General
• 37:26
  Scott Besant, as I call him, brought him in to
• 37:30
  interrogate him and, of course, get as many social
• 37:33
  media clips as possible. Exactly. Who do you
• 37:36
  think is the most qualified person to to be the
• 37:40
  chairperson of the, actually she is the chairperson
• 37:44
  of the finance committee. I don't know. Maxine
• 37:48
  Waters, of course. Oh, okay. You know who Maxine
• 37:52
  Waters is? Oh, brother, when you hear it, you'll
• 37:55
  remember. Well, but maybe none of that matters
• 37:57
  if President Trump continues to blindly push
• 38:00
  for AI and data centers. Oh, you remember her?
• 38:03
  Yeah, I remember. You remember Maxine Waters?
• 38:06
  Oh, my gosh. You need to go out there and stand
• 38:08
  up to them and fight them. Yeah, that's Maxine.
• 38:10
  Oh, my gosh, yes. And she uses some of her classic
• 38:12
  lines in this. She's doing this? Oh, yeah. But
• 38:14
  absolutely no safeguards. He's doing this even
• 38:17
  as constant. and threat skyrocket for Americans.
• 38:19
  Did you hear what Bill Gates had to say? Did
• 38:22
  you hear what Elon Musk had to say? Did you hear
• 38:25
  about anthropic? Did you hear about Homo Dei?
• 38:28
  They all said stop it. Watch it. AI is dangerous.
• 38:32
  You got to be careful. Did you hear any of that?
• 38:35
  Yes or no? They could stop any time they want
• 38:37
  to. Did you hear any of that yes or no? Reclaiming
• 38:41
  my time. Reclaiming my time. This is your representatives
• 38:46
  at work. This is embarrassing. She doesn't want
• 38:48
  an answer. No, no. Be quiet, reclaiming my time.
• 38:52
  Did you hear what your friends had to say? What
• 38:56
  the big billionaires had to say? Did you understand
• 38:59
  that they said we're moving into a dangerous
• 39:02
  period of time? We need to watch it. slow down.
• 39:05
  This is people who read the newspaper. This is
• 39:07
  people who watch CNN. This is people who just
• 39:10
  take it at face value. Hey, the experts. Does
• 39:13
  this remind you of COVID a little bit? Shut up.
• 39:15
  Yes. Don't take your your horse paced. You don't
• 39:18
  know what you're talking about. President Trump.
• 39:21
  What are you talking about? This is just some
• 39:23
  the Wuhan flu. This is wrong. You're wrong. You're
• 39:25
  wrong. You're wrong. Incessant. Did you hear
• 39:28
  that? This administration has been at the forefront
• 39:31
  of examining the models. We began model examination.
• 39:35
  They are more than five or six months ago. Your
• 39:38
  friends said watch it. Be careful. that we're
• 39:41
  moving into a dangerous time on AI. And if you
• 39:44
  don't admit that, it means that you're not willing
• 39:47
  to stand up to the truth. Because you heard it,
• 39:50
  you know they're saying it. These are the guys
• 39:52
  that you all work with. These are the guys that
• 39:54
  you have to be more billionaires than trillionaires.
• 39:57
  So you know what they're saying. You don't have
• 40:01
  any more time. Okay, so you get the idea. It
• 40:06
  went on and on and on and on. nauseating. And
• 40:10
  it was, we're all gonna die. It's, you know,
• 40:13
  you don't know what you're, you're just enriching
• 40:15
  yourself with these people. So we need to understand
• 40:19
  where these anthropic and open AI people come
• 40:22
  from. And they all come from a, a doctrine of
• 40:29
  belief called effective altruism. You've probably
• 40:32
  never heard of effective altruism. This was created
• 40:35
  by a, by a professor at Oxford. Is it affective
• 40:40
  or effective? Effective. Effective altruism.
• 40:44
  And all of these people in these organizations
• 40:48
  subscribe to effective altruism. And I'm not
• 40:52
  gonna play the clips, but the basic thesis is
• 40:57
  whatever we do now, we have to put all our energy,
• 41:00
  all our money into saving future people. If we
• 41:04
  have to die now, That's okay because it'll be
• 41:07
  good for future people. It's a very strange doctrine.
• 41:13
  And I'll tell you who the poster child was. He's
• 41:16
  in jail right now. Sam Bankman Fried from FTX.
• 41:21
  He was the top level effective altruist. And
• 41:27
  he was so into it that he felt that funding through
• 41:31
  his FTX, his cryptocurrency, funding initiatives
• 41:37
  like the Democratic Party would be the most effective
• 41:42
  way to help future people, future animals, future
• 41:47
  worlds. And you can do a very, very deep dive
• 41:52
  on this stuff, but they're all part of it and
• 41:55
  they all speak the same. There's a little bit
• 41:57
  of a weird, you know, the whole polycule angle,
• 42:00
  like we're all kind of sleeping in the same house
• 42:02
  and all of that. It is a real thing. The guy
• 42:08
  who developed it was actually, let me see, they
• 42:11
  have this, part of the doctrine is long -termism.
• 42:16
  And the, let me just give you the name of the,
• 42:21
  give me the name, William McCaskill, Oxford philosophy
• 42:25
  professor. He coined the term effective altruism.
• 42:29
  He co -founded his institutions, Giving What
• 42:31
  We Can, Center for Effective Altruism, 80 ,000
• 42:36
  Hours. He wrote the book, What We Owe the Future,
• 42:39
  and here he is explaining long -termism. Well,
• 42:42
  long -termism is about three things. It's about
• 42:45
  taking seriously the sheer scale of the future
• 42:49
  that might be ahead of us and just how high the
• 42:51
  stakes are in anything that could shape that
• 42:53
  future. It's then about trying to assess what
• 42:58
  are the events that might occur in our lifetimes
• 43:00
  that really would have impacts, not just for
• 43:02
  the present generation, but that could potentially
• 43:05
  shape the entire course of humanity's future.
• 43:08
  And then third, just trying to figure out like,
• 43:10
  okay, how do we ensure that we can take actions
• 43:13
  to put humanity onto the right path? Are you
• 43:18
  with me so far? Yeah, this is creepy. It's very
• 43:22
  creepy. Oh, no, it's super creepy. It sounds
• 43:24
  like an elite group of people who think they
• 43:27
  know more about the world's future and what's
• 43:31
  best for them than these ignorant masses. And
• 43:34
  one of their core tenets is the future of God
• 43:38
  is AI. That's one of their core tenets. So now
• 43:44
  we move on to This is Yudowsky. This is the guy
• 43:51
  who founded the machine intelligence research
• 43:56
  field, which is what AI was before we started
• 43:58
  calling it AI. It was machine learning, machine
• 44:01
  intelligence. And he's an effective altruist.
• 44:05
  And he has been saying, For whatever his reasons
• 44:08
  are, we got to stop this. It's no good. Since
• 44:11
  2001, I've been working on what we would now
• 44:14
  call the problem of aligning artificial general
• 44:16
  intelligence. How to shape the preferences and
• 44:19
  behavior of a powerful artificial mind such that
• 44:22
  it does not kill everyone. This is not a recent
• 44:27
  thing. You've been talking about this for a while.
• 44:29
  I more or less founded the field two decades
• 44:31
  ago when nobody else considered it rewarding
• 44:33
  enough to work on. I tried to get this very important
• 44:36
  project started early so we'd be in less of a
• 44:38
  drastic rush later. I consider myself to have
• 44:42
  failed. Nobody understands how modern AI systems
• 44:46
  do what they do. They are giant inscrutable matrices
• 44:49
  of floating point numbers that we nudge in the
• 44:51
  direction of better performance until they inexplicably
• 44:53
  start working. So now we have all the divisions.
• 44:56
  You and I are like, we're not seeing it. Technically,
• 44:59
  I'm not seeing it. We're seeing the benefit.
• 45:01
  Totally agree. that people anthropomorphizing
• 45:04
  chat bots is a very bad thing, bad habit, and
• 45:07
  we need to guard people for that. But the technology,
• 45:11
  if it's breaking out and so -called hacking into
• 45:14
  hugging face, which, by the way, is a direct
• 45:16
  competitor of these companies, and they didn't
• 45:18
  hack, it found literally the password, there's
• 45:23
  all these agendas going on. But when you bring
• 45:26
  up this level of fear, what is it that is always
• 45:29
  called for, the same thing that happened during
• 45:31
  COVID, Well, the World Health Organization. We
• 45:35
  need a global organization to take a look at
• 45:39
  all of this and to coordinate everything so that
• 45:42
  we don't have people going rogue, which is kind
• 45:45
  of interesting. It's like the ivermectin. It's
• 45:50
  like we can't have people taking ivermectin.
• 45:52
  That's very bad. Remember how crazy that was?
• 45:56
  An award -winning, life -saving drug at one of
• 45:59
  the most cheapest ever. And everyone will say,
• 46:03
  including the World Health Organization. And
• 46:05
  who is, whenever there's one of these global
• 46:08
  things that we need to take care of, whether
• 46:10
  it's global warming or whether it's COVID, World
• 46:14
  Health Organization, it's always the same people
• 46:17
  who pop up. Here's Bill Gates. And you've talked
• 46:20
  about the creation of some sort of international
• 46:21
  organization to manage AI's use and monitor AI
• 46:25
  and the importance of getting the US and China
• 46:28
  involved in that. Have you got a sense of where
• 46:31
  the leadership for something like that should
• 46:33
  come from, how it should emerge? Well, since
• 46:36
  World War II, the US has often been a benign
• 46:41
  leader of global initiatives, whether it's the
• 46:46
  creation of the UN itself with others, you know,
• 46:50
  thinking about nuclear weapons or ozone layer
• 46:55
  or aviation safety. And so here... Did you hear
• 47:00
  him literally say ozone layer? I mean, he's going
• 47:02
  through the playbook from all these years. You
• 47:05
  know, people see this as... as important as I
• 47:09
  do, the capacity of the U .S. government to work
• 47:12
  domestically and in a friendly way, reach out
• 47:16
  to others, you know, and see what they're doing.
• 47:20
  It just doesn't feel that's the way the administration
• 47:22
  is going. Oh, no. Oh, no. The Trump administration
• 47:26
  is not for this. It's like a repeat of COVID.
• 47:29
  You know, I'm saying that you can't go straight
• 47:33
  to the politicians because It's too complicated.
• 47:36
  You want the politicians to build up the expertise
• 47:39
  in the government, but a broad set of institutions
• 47:43
  have to be developed around these challenges.
• 47:48
  I had dinner last night with Ginny Raimondo,
• 47:52
  who's got a group called Raise that's raised
• 47:56
  some money and is going to do some programs to
• 47:58
  talk about job market adjustment things. Okay,
• 48:02
  he just glosses past that. The news model doesn't
• 48:05
  ask him. What is this raise thing? Well, it's
• 48:07
  run by Gina Raimundo, Biden's Commerce Secretary,
• 48:10
  former Democratic governor of Rhode Island. They
• 48:14
  literally raise money from Anthropic and from
• 48:17
  Bill Gates to figure out ways to get people paid
• 48:21
  when AI takes over the world. So this is what
• 48:24
  Bill Gates is thinking. He's thinking, just like
• 48:27
  in the COVID years, we're all going to stay home.
• 48:30
  We won't be able to go to our jobs except for
• 48:32
  the essential workers. Were you an essential
• 48:34
  worker? No. No. But the guy running the boo shop
• 48:38
  was. Right. Exactly. Actually, podcasters were
• 48:41
  considered essential workers. Yes, I took big
• 48:44
  advantage of that. So we'll finish up with Gates.
• 48:46
  You know, you need a hundred things like that
• 48:49
  that eventually leads to new policy. But probably
• 48:55
  led out of the US you think Well, that's been
• 49:00
  the primary pattern the rest of the world Is
• 49:05
  not used to having a vacuum of US leadership,
• 49:08
  you know, we saw that During the pandemic and
• 49:12
  you know now we have a WHO that doesn't happen
• 49:15
  to have the United States. I love the laugh tilt
• 49:18
  as a member of it so no, the world is not fully
• 49:22
  adjusted to cases where The U .S. isn't in there
• 49:27
  taking cutting edge issues that... All right.
• 49:32
  So I'm tired of Bill Gates. Me too. Thank you.
• 49:35
  It's torture. So we have all the elements. We
• 49:37
  have the fear. We have the division. We have
• 49:40
  the experts. The ultimate solution is, well,
• 49:44
  we really need a global governance body to make
• 49:48
  sure that we check all this stuff, to make sure
• 49:50
  nobody is touching their keyboard without programming
• 49:55
  some AI thing. And now we come to the truly biblical
• 50:00
  part, which just when I found this, it blew me
• 50:02
  away. You know who Peter Thiel is? I know the
• 50:05
  name. The name. He is seen as a huge villain
• 50:09
  because he comes from the PayPal mafia. I believe
• 50:13
  he and others like Elon Musk have been vilified
• 50:16
  for being the PayPal mafia, mainly by the banks
• 50:19
  who were angry that they figured out a better
• 50:21
  way to transform money between people. He is
• 50:26
  also seen as a very evil guy for being a co -founder
• 50:30
  of the company Palantir. You've probably heard
• 50:32
  this name. Palantir is actually the opposite
• 50:36
  of what people think it is. It's not an AI company.
• 50:40
  It is a company that sits on top of databases,
• 50:44
  mainly within government, to track how information
• 50:47
  is used. So if someone accesses some information
• 50:51
  about Pastor Jimmy Pruitt without a warrant to
• 50:54
  do so, that's all tracked through Palantir. So
• 50:58
  for whatever reason, there's a lot of influencers
• 51:02
  out there saying, this guy's evil, he's no good.
• 51:05
  Just happens to be a conservative guy in Silicon
• 51:10
  Valley, never a good thing. He was also raised
• 51:13
  in a very evangelical Christian household. I
• 51:17
  don't know of his believer status, but I did
• 51:20
  see him a while, it was like, he's talking about
• 51:22
  the Antichrist, like, oh man, this guy's nuts.
• 51:26
  Until I went and listened to what he was saying.
• 51:29
  So this is one year ago. And this is where I
• 51:32
  think we bring it all together about who's really
• 51:34
  behind what is happening right now. It's not
• 51:36
  just the AI companies. It's not just the politicians.
• 51:40
  I think it's something much bigger. But I always
• 51:43
  think that if we're going to have this frame
• 51:45
  of talking about existential risks, perhaps we
• 51:48
  should also talk about the risk of another type
• 51:52
  of a bad singularity, which I would describe
• 51:54
  as the one world totalitarian state, because
• 51:58
  I would say The political solution, the default
• 52:02
  political solution people have for all these
• 52:08
  existential risks is one world governance. What
• 52:12
  do you do about nuclear weapons? We have United
• 52:16
  Nations with real teeth that controls them, and
• 52:19
  they're controlled by an international political
• 52:23
  order. And then something like this is is also,
• 52:30
  you know, what do we do about AI? And we need
• 52:33
  global compute governance. We need, you know,
• 52:35
  a one world government to control all the computers,
• 52:39
  log every single keystroke to make sure people
• 52:42
  don't program, you know, a dangerous AI. And
• 52:45
  I've been wondering whether that's sort of a,
• 52:47
  you know, going from, you know, the frying pan
• 52:50
  into the fire. And so the atheist philosophical
• 52:53
  framing is one world or none. That was a short
• 52:57
  film that was put out by the Federation of American
• 53:00
  Scientists in the late 40s. It starts with a
• 53:02
  nuclear bomb blowing up the world, and obviously
• 53:05
  you need a one -world government to stop it.
• 53:08
  One world or none. And the Christian framing,
• 53:13
  which in some ways is the same question, is Antichrist
• 53:16
  or Armageddon. You have the one -world state
• 53:19
  of the Antichrist, or we're sleepwalking towards
• 53:22
  Armageddon. One world or none. Antichrist or
• 53:26
  Armageddon on one level are the same question.
• 53:29
  This kind of caught my attention. Wow. Because,
• 53:33
  now, this is Revelation and, you know, it's one
• 53:36
  of the hardest books I think for any new Christians,
• 53:39
  like wrap your head around, even though as you
• 53:41
  start to read it, it becomes really beautiful
• 53:43
  and you really see that it's the, it is the end
• 53:47
  times, but it shows where we're headed eventually.
• 53:50
  And the Antichrist, this is one of these things
• 53:53
  that is thrown around so easily, like, well,
• 53:57
  Bill Gates is the Antichrist, Fauci is the Antichrist,
• 54:00
  Donald Trump is the Antichrist, Bibi Netanyahu
• 54:03
  is the Antichrist. And this Peter Thiel guy has
• 54:07
  a very interesting take on the Antichrist. Now,
• 54:11
  I have a lot of thoughts on this topic, but sort
• 54:16
  of one... One question is, and this was a plot
• 54:19
  hole in all these Antichrist books, people wrote,
• 54:23
  how does the Antichrist take over the world?
• 54:26
  He gives these demonic, hypnotic speeches and
• 54:29
  people just fall for it. And so it's this plot
• 54:31
  hole. It's this daemonium. It's totally implausible.
• 54:35
  It's a very implausible plot hole. Right. But
• 54:37
  I think we have an answer. to this plot hole.
• 54:40
  The way the Antichrist would take over the world
• 54:42
  is you talk about Armageddon nonstop. You talk
• 54:45
  about existential risk nonstop. Are you feeling
• 54:49
  me, Smalls? I'm tracking. I'm like, wow, okay,
• 54:52
  this guy is speaking to me because I look at
• 54:55
  all these different playbooks the same way. And
• 54:59
  you can't blame one industry, one person or anything
• 55:02
  for it all comes together. And besides God, who
• 55:07
  has that kind of power, manipulative power to
• 55:09
  do that? Could it be Satan? Seriously. It's for
• 55:14
  real. And so he continues. And this is what you
• 55:17
  need to regulate. It's the opposite of the picture
• 55:20
  of Baconian science from the 17th, 18th century
• 55:24
  where, you know, the Antichrist is like some
• 55:27
  evil tech genius, evil scientist who invents
• 55:31
  this machine to take over the world. People are
• 55:34
  way too scared for that. In our world, the thing
• 55:37
  that has political resonance is the opposite.
• 55:41
  The thing that has political resonance is we
• 55:44
  need to stop science. We need to just say stop
• 55:47
  to this. And this is where, yeah, I don't know.
• 55:50
  In the 17th century, I can imagine a Dr. Strangelove,
• 55:54
  Edward Teller type person taking over the world.
• 55:57
  In our world, it's far more likely to be Greta
• 56:01
  Thunberg. I'm telling you. Wow. Like so obvious.
• 56:09
  Could we be walking straight into a whole like
• 56:13
  the next level? Covid was one version of it.
• 56:16
  It was a big step up from every other version
• 56:19
  because we were staying home. Right. We were
• 56:21
  wearing masks. People are still wearing masks.
• 56:24
  Could this be? Mean obviously we don't know we
• 56:28
  don't know when the end we don't know any of
• 56:30
  this Jesus didn't know but man when I see this
• 56:33
  I'm like Cool, because I'm not afraid of it How
• 56:39
  are we supposed to look at this type of thinking?
• 56:42
  Like this could actually be the Antichrist. Is
• 56:45
  it our job to stop it? Is it our job to make
• 56:47
  people aware of it? Is it our job to just go
• 56:50
  and save people as much as we can because the
• 56:53
  end times coming Could be in ten years could
• 56:55
  be in 10 ,000 years, I don't know. What is our
• 56:58
  job as believers? It's the same job that Jesus
• 57:01
  told us when he left earth. He said literally,
• 57:05
  go therefore, make disciples of all nations.
• 57:08
  But the way he said it was, as you are going,
• 57:11
  make disciples or disciple nations, teaching
• 57:14
  them everything I've taught you. And I'm going
• 57:16
  to be with you all the way through it. That is
• 57:19
  our job. That is our mission. It has not changed
• 57:23
  and it won't change no matter what the state
• 57:26
  of the world is, no matter what time frame we
• 57:29
  find ourselves, it's still mission central. That's
• 57:32
  it. And so I was listening to Dr. J. Smith, who's
• 57:37
  a professor, Islam expert, and he was talking
• 57:43
  about, so what's the solution? He brought all
• 57:45
  these stats and everything, you know, and he
• 57:48
  said, so what's the solution? You know, everybody's
• 57:50
  waiting for the golden key. And he says, go back
• 57:53
  to what Jesus told us to do. I mean, he's literally
• 57:55
  like, you know, they may outpace us in birth
• 57:59
  rates, but we can outpace them in salvation.
• 58:01
  I mean, we can win the world. That is what we're
• 58:05
  supposed to be doing. So what happens is people
• 58:08
  get so caught up in this fear that they do what
• 58:11
  a deer does out in the middle of the road. And
• 58:12
  we know this very well living in the hill country.
• 58:15
  They stop deer in the headlights. They just stop.
• 58:18
  They freeze. And that means they freeze not only
• 58:21
  doing bad things they shouldn't be doing, they
• 58:23
  freeze doing the good things they're supposed
• 58:25
  to be doing. And people lock down. And that's
• 58:28
  what fear does. Fear created lockdown. And now
• 58:32
  you see the pattern of it. Boy, you did a great
• 58:34
  job putting the machinery together there and
• 58:37
  seeing the construct of it and how it plays out.
• 58:40
  And we're seeing this buildup again. It may not
• 58:44
  just be midterm madness or hysteria. I think
• 58:46
  it goes beyond that. Yeah, this is a larger plan.
• 58:49
  It's one, it's definitely a part of it and I
• 58:51
  can tell you. Sure, of course. Unfortunately,
• 58:53
  I can tell you what I think is possible that
• 58:56
  will happen there when you have... Okay, so we'll
• 58:59
  just... Skip over to President Trump who sees
• 59:02
  right through all this he may even see through
• 59:04
  and see that it's the devil for all I know I
• 59:06
  mean he's I think he's a lot more perceptive
• 59:08
  than we Understand he is the worst communicator
• 59:11
  in the world at that when he figures something
• 59:13
  out because here's a quick We begin with breaking
• 59:15
  news President Trump responding this morning
• 59:17
  to those growing calls to slow down the development
• 59:20
  of artificial intelligence in a new post on social
• 59:23
  media the president said quote The only control
• 59:26
  or guardrails that AI needs is a strong and smart,
• 59:30
  high IQ president, and the USA has that. He went
• 59:34
  on to call the warnings, quote, a sick conspiracy
• 59:36
  going on against AI and data centers. And the
• 59:39
  only one that is happy about it is China. But
• 59:42
  lawmakers like former Senator Joe Manchin, not
• 59:44
  so convinced. We've done things under emergency
• 59:48
  clauses before. You think they can't get it done?
• 59:50
  We've done things under emergency clauses before.
• 59:53
  He's literally talking about lockdowns. We've
• 59:55
  done things under emergency clauses before. You
• 59:57
  think they can't get it done before Christmas?
• 59:59
  Work through the weekends. It's extreme important.
• 1:00:02
  You're telling me that I have a 10 % chance of
• 1:00:05
  me and my family and my children and grandchildren
• 1:00:06
  to get annihilated, okay? The system can take
• 1:00:09
  over and we can't control it. Stop it. Do it
• 1:00:11
  now, Mr. President. Okay, so. Wow. Now, President
• 1:00:15
  Trump sees through it. Yeah, on multiple fronts,
• 1:00:19
  it's a hoax, you know, obviously. Actually, China
• 1:00:23
  has come out and said, please don't slow down
• 1:00:24
  AI. This is bad for us too. That's literally
• 1:00:27
  what the commerce secretary said. I mean, it's
• 1:00:30
  like, no, please, please don't do that. That
• 1:00:31
  makes no sense. Here's JD Vance, our vice president.
• 1:00:33
  But John, earlier this morning, the vice president
• 1:00:36
  JD Vance also weighed in on these new warnings.
• 1:00:38
  Listen. weird about the fact that you have so
• 1:00:44
  many frontier AI tech companies kind of coming
• 1:00:47
  to the government and begging the government
• 1:00:49
  to regulate them. It feels a little bit to me
• 1:00:51
  like a bit of a Trojan horse. I don't think Americans
• 1:00:53
  should be scared of anything. I think that we
• 1:00:56
  have to be mindful that there are risks, there
• 1:00:59
  are downsides to anything, and that's certainly
• 1:01:00
  true of AI. John, this appears to be the message
• 1:01:04
  the Trump administration is coalescing around.
• 1:01:07
  Yeah, that's a message that doesn't match what
• 1:01:10
  the American people are telling the White House
• 1:01:12
  or what the American people are telling Congress,
• 1:01:13
  which is that they are concerned about the advancements
• 1:01:16
  of AI. I'm sorry, it's NBC. What am I thinking?
• 1:01:19
  You know, the sort of doomsday scenarios. They're
• 1:01:22
  concerned about water and electricity bills going
• 1:01:26
  up. So they're concerned about a lot of things.
• 1:01:28
  If you look at polling, most Americans have some
• 1:01:31
  serious concerns about AI. It is interesting
• 1:01:33
  what the vice president said there about a Trojan
• 1:01:35
  horse. exactly what he means by that. Okay. So
• 1:01:38
  we do know what he means. And there's a couple
• 1:01:40
  of things. First of all, I will just say, don't
• 1:01:46
  be afraid of this stuff. Don't be afraid of any
• 1:01:48
  of it. Pastor Jimmy and Adam are using it. It
• 1:01:51
  hasn't killed us. We're seeing how it can be
• 1:01:53
  used as a tool. This is actually pretty cool.
• 1:01:56
  The industrial, re -industrialization of America
• 1:02:00
  is what President Trump is going to continue
• 1:02:01
  doing even during an impeachment in the next
• 1:02:04
  two years, whatever happens. These data centers,
• 1:02:08
  there's nothing new. There's 4 ,700 of them already
• 1:02:10
  in America. They're not loud. And they've been
• 1:02:14
  around for decades. For a long time. These are
• 1:02:17
  not new. I had one in 2002 in Amsterdam, of all
• 1:02:20
  places. So it's not new, but it's the political
• 1:02:25
  aspect. Now, unfortunately, there's a... You
• 1:02:27
  know about the October surprise, this is something
• 1:02:29
  that's often talked about in politics, just before
• 1:02:32
  the election in October, something will happen.
• 1:02:34
  Yes, yes, every time. Every single, in fact,
• 1:02:38
  I think COVID kind of struck in October of 2019,
• 1:02:43
  you know, so this, just take that with whatever
• 1:02:45
  you want. We now have the model. The model is
• 1:02:50
  these things can hack into infrastructure and
• 1:02:52
  President Trump says it's a hoax. Well, considering
• 1:02:56
  the perhaps dangerously idiotic people who want
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  this regulation and who have allowed this so
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  -called hacking, it would be quite easy to perpetuate
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  something. Stop airlines, you know, we had that
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  with CrowdStrike that happened. I mean, bring
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  something down that... I would say just take
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  down a TikTok and Instagram for today. You'll
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  have the whole population. Everyone will be on
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  your side if you want that. There's a possibility
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  something like that will happen. See, we told
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  you, Trump is wrong, Republicans wrong, vote
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  Democrat. I think there's a real risk of that.
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  Hopefully it won't be something too perilous.
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  But there's that risk. I'll just finish with
• 1:03:47
  this last clip from Teal. Okay, I want to suggest
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  a middle ground between those two options. It
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  used to be that the reasonable fear of the Antichrist
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  was a kind of wizard of technology, and now the
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  reasonable fear is someone who promises to control
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  technology, make it safe, and sort of usher in
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  what from your point of view would be a kind
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  of universal stagnation, right? Well, it's more...
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  That's more my description of how it would happen.
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  Right. So I think people still have a fear of
• 1:04:17
  a 17th century Antichrist. Yes. We're still scared
• 1:04:20
  of Dr. Strangelove. Right, but you're saying
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  the real Antichrist would play on that fear and
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  say, you must come with me to avoid Skynet, to
• 1:04:29
  avoid the Terminator, to avoid nuclear Armageddon.
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  Yes. Should we try to avoid that? I mean, we
• 1:04:38
  know the Antichrist is coming. This is just a,
• 1:04:42
  here's a newbie believer question. So it's coming
• 1:04:45
  and if you want to say, well, it looks like it's
• 1:04:47
  here, but there's all this stuff and people are
• 1:04:50
  afraid. Should we just say, don't be afraid,
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  stop, don't do that, don't hunker down, don't
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  shelter in place, or do we just let it happen
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  because it's inevitable? Yeah, there's the tension
• 1:05:02
  we live in. I mean, and it is real. That tension
• 1:05:05
  will always be there like my brilliant philosophy
• 1:05:10
  professor pulled me in his office one day. He
• 1:05:11
  said, Mr. Pruitt, this is a college kid. Mr.
• 1:05:14
  Pruitt, is there a knot in your stomach? I said,
• 1:05:17
  yes, sir. He said, be afraid if it ever goes
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  away. And I'm like, why did this man just tell
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  me this? Well, all these years later, I get it.
• 1:05:27
  So we live in tension. And the tension is, if
• 1:05:32
  I believe that the Antichrist is coming, do I
• 1:05:35
  start stockpiling? you know, this is not prepping.
• 1:05:38
  Do I go into prepper mode? Do I go into, you
• 1:05:41
  know, there's a reasonable level in which we
• 1:05:46
  should do that anyway, I mean, just for in general.
• 1:05:50
  But should I let fear drive that? Or do I let
• 1:05:54
  strategic thinking, wisdom, the mind of Christ
• 1:05:56
  that the Bible says I have already, do I let
• 1:05:59
  that drive my actions? To me, it is going to...
• 1:06:04
  Whatever happens, however it comes down, if there's
• 1:06:07
  an Antichrist that arises and we're not raptured
• 1:06:09
  out before then, I'm kind of hooked with those
• 1:06:11
  pre -trib guys. I hope they're right. I'm cheering.
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  I'm on that team. So I want that to be the truth.
• 1:06:21
  And if that is, then we won't even be here to
• 1:06:25
  experience this. But let's say we are. Does that
• 1:06:30
  change our MO? It may change the way we do life.
• 1:06:33
  It'll change the way we exist and the way we
• 1:06:35
  live. And I think that's one of the biggest fears
• 1:06:38
  Americans have is the loss of a way of life and
• 1:06:41
  comfort and prosperity that we've enjoyed, which
• 1:06:45
  has created the softness which now we're facing
• 1:06:48
  the world with and the lack of resilience and
• 1:06:50
  all those things. But to me, it's like, we keep
• 1:06:54
  doing what our mission is. And that is, we continue
• 1:06:58
  to win people to Christ, make disciples, expand
• 1:07:02
  the kingdom of God, take as many with us as will
• 1:07:05
  go. It's so interesting that the representative
• 1:07:09
  of all the evangelical organizations in America
• 1:07:12
  is not saying that. You remember Walter Kim?
• 1:07:14
  I do. Yes, the chairman of the— Supposedly my
• 1:07:18
  spokesperson. Yes, the National Association of
• 1:07:22
  Evangelicals. So they had a big conference called
• 1:07:25
  the humans first, or was it pro -humans or something
• 1:07:28
  like that, with Steve Bannon of all people? Oh
• 1:07:32
  yeah. When Steve Bannon shows up, you gotta know
• 1:07:36
  there's some kind of agenda. But Walter Kim,
• 1:07:39
  you know, he's right there. As we stand on kind
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  of the cusp of superintelligence, sort of artificial
• 1:07:46
  general intelligence, superintelligence, being
• 1:07:49
  a reality, What in your mind is the specifically
• 1:07:55
  Christian witness in that moment? What are the
• 1:07:58
  churches called to do? Is it to say, stop? This
• 1:08:02
  is too much of a threat to human dignity. What
• 1:08:06
  do we do in this moment? What does even the question
• 1:08:09
  mean? What is the Christian witness? I know that's
• 1:08:12
  strange. It's a very odd question. I have a response.
• 1:08:15
  I can save it till we... Okay. It took him a
• 1:08:18
  second to figure it out, too. I'll give a quick
• 1:08:24
  one is we need a transcendent vision and a clear
• 1:08:28
  vision of what it means to be human. What is
• 1:08:30
  the goal? And again, not just as an individual
• 1:08:32
  flourishing, but what does it mean to be human
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  corporately? Yes. Secondly, we need to understand
• 1:08:38
  the moral implications of this, that it's not
• 1:08:40
  just a technical question, it's a moral question.
• 1:08:43
  That activates the faith community. Lastly, I
• 1:08:48
  would say there needs to be a humility that we
• 1:08:53
  ought to have that makes it clear that this is
• 1:08:56
  a multi -dimensional and multi -disciplinary
• 1:09:00
  challenge. And as a faith leader, I will humbly
• 1:09:04
  acknowledge I don't understand all the science.
• 1:09:07
  I'm even more appalled that the scientists don't
• 1:09:09
  understand all the science itself as well. But
• 1:09:12
  this is all the more why a meeting like this
• 1:09:17
  is so compelling. Because we actually need what
• 1:09:21
  each other can bring to the table for a joint
• 1:09:24
  response. So I want to reemphasize what you said
• 1:09:27
  about humility. And it comes down to inculcating
• 1:09:31
  a sense of virtue in our citizenry. which begins
• 1:09:34
  with humility. We need virtuous citizens if we're
• 1:09:38
  going to have any kind of ethical regulation
• 1:09:40
  or even to the point of stopping it. We need
• 1:09:43
  to have that humility and virtue. We're going
• 1:09:46
  to have that transcendent vision and what it
• 1:09:49
  means to be human with each other. Word salad,
• 1:09:52
  word salad. No kidding. Regulation, stop it.
• 1:09:54
  That's what I heard. And I heard this is how
• 1:09:58
  you activate the Christian community. This bugs
• 1:10:01
  me. But they're coming for us. They're coming
• 1:10:04
  for us. They want us on their side. They want
• 1:10:06
  us to be, I don't know who this guy is. I don't
• 1:10:09
  either. I don't get a good vibe from him. It
• 1:10:11
  doesn't represent me. I'll say that. What would
• 1:10:13
  your answer be to the, what is the Christian
• 1:10:15
  witness? Man, word salad. I think if I even tried
• 1:10:21
  to answer it, it would sound like word salad
• 1:10:23
  because I'm not even sure what the clear question
• 1:10:25
  is in that. There was no question why in these
• 1:10:29
  forums and these panels some agents doesn't stop
• 1:10:32
  and say would you rephrase that question? Clarify
• 1:10:35
  exactly because instead they just go off on it
• 1:10:37
  like an expert and that's where it gets goofy
• 1:10:40
  this whole panel It was a big symposium the pro
• 1:10:44
  -human conference They had the Archbishop was
• 1:10:48
  there They want to get the Pope involved The
• 1:10:55
  fact that Steve Bannon is there tells me that's
• 1:10:57
  a political movement and not an evangelical movement.
• 1:11:01
  But they also got the America First people in
• 1:11:04
  there who are against President Trump. And this
• 1:11:08
  woman used to represent women for Trump. Now
• 1:11:11
  you'll see that she's America First, which is
• 1:11:14
  a... That's the Tucker Carlson faction of the
• 1:11:19
  political right. I am the chairwoman of Humans
• 1:11:22
  First. Humans First. Okay, thank you. I am the
• 1:11:26
  chairwoman of Humans First. I'm not a techie.
• 1:11:29
  I'm a mom who has common sense. I'm also one
• 1:11:32
  of the founders of the modern day Tea Party movement,
• 1:11:34
  the founder of Women for Trump and Women for
• 1:11:37
  America First. There it is. So Tea Party Trump.
• 1:11:40
  America First. Humans First is a grassroots organization
• 1:11:44
  and I mean that in the truest sense of the word.
• 1:11:47
  We do not wait in Washington for permission.
• 1:11:50
  Right now we have a bus crossing this country
• 1:11:53
  the data center revolt bus tour. 35 stops, almost
• 1:11:57
  8 ,000 miles and half the states. We started
• 1:12:02
  in Austin on Saturday and we end up in Silicon
• 1:12:06
  Valley in three weeks. The data center revolt
• 1:12:09
  bus tour serves two purposes. First, it gives
• 1:12:12
  Americans a platform to have their voices heard
• 1:12:15
  because the country needs to hear directly from
• 1:12:18
  families whose water bills have tripled, whose
• 1:12:20
  power has flickered, and whose communities changed
• 1:12:23
  overnight because the server farm moved in without
• 1:12:26
  ever asking for their permission. There's no
• 1:12:29
  tripling of water bill and she says their power
• 1:12:32
  flickered? Come to the hill country. Yeah, that's
• 1:12:35
  kind of normal flickers all the time. So I just
• 1:12:39
  want everyone can make their own decision, but
• 1:12:41
  this is a much bigger play. I think really evil
• 1:12:44
  is at play again. It's not, not that it ever
• 1:12:46
  stops. Hey, I've got my hooks into this. Now
• 1:12:49
  I've got everybody on board. We're seeing the
• 1:12:52
  exact same thing as we did with COVID just in
• 1:12:55
  a different, in a different jacket and a different,
• 1:12:58
  it's just a different form. It's all the same
• 1:13:00
  stuff. It's like the same song. fourth verse,
• 1:13:04
  fifth verse, sixth. I mean, this goes on and
• 1:13:06
  on. But the pattern's the same and the outcomes
• 1:13:10
  in terms of what it does to people's psyche is
• 1:13:13
  the same. And we become so easily manipulated
• 1:13:16
  when we're scared. And so why am I not worried?
• 1:13:20
  Well, because almost four years ago, I got saved.
• 1:13:23
  I know where my salvation… I also know where
• 1:13:26
  I'm going to. And I am just not afraid. But I'm
• 1:13:31
  also not going to jump up and down and fight
• 1:13:33
  until we get crazy. But what I will do is I will
• 1:13:37
  try to bring as many people to Jesus as possible.
• 1:13:43
  That's how I want to finish. I want to finish
• 1:13:45
  well doing that for the next 20, 30 years or
• 1:13:48
  whatever God gives me. I'm so ready for that.
• 1:13:51
  And you actually brought some examples of this
• 1:13:53
  taking place and I really want you to land with
• 1:13:56
  some of this because this is the encouragement.
• 1:13:59
  Yeah. So there have been some grassroots movements
• 1:14:03
  springing up literally all over the world. I
• 1:14:06
  mean, from influencers going public with their
• 1:14:08
  fake decloaking. Decloking, yes. Decloking and
• 1:14:11
  saying, hey, by the way, I'm a Christian. I pray
• 1:14:13
  every day. I read my Bible and you should too.
• 1:14:15
  And all of a sudden a million kids go looking
• 1:14:18
  for a Bible, right? I mean, this is happening.
• 1:14:20
  Britain, America. I mean, it's happening everywhere.
• 1:14:23
  We're also seeing university movements right
• 1:14:26
  now where awakenings slash revivals. I'd say
• 1:14:29
  awakenings at this point. Awakenings are people
• 1:14:33
  are waking up. They're waking up. They're starting
• 1:14:35
  to discover a hunger for God. It could be because
• 1:14:39
  things look bleak. In a way, the more people
• 1:14:42
  cry, the sky is falling, the sky is falling,
• 1:14:44
  or wolf, wolf. more people start saying, okay,
• 1:14:48
  I need something real. I need something that
• 1:14:49
  will anchor, I can anchor my life to, and to
• 1:14:52
  help me navigate this minefield of fear. And
• 1:14:57
  so young people by the droves, I mean, Barna,
• 1:15:01
  they're showing, George Barna's organization,
• 1:15:03
  they're showing the stats on young people coming
• 1:15:06
  to church now for the first time in years. We
• 1:15:09
  have more young people. ages 18 to 35 attending
• 1:15:14
  church than we do older adults. I have a clip
• 1:15:17
  of that, I think. Yeah, yeah, it's probably in
• 1:15:18
  there, so yeah, go for it. You got also published
• 1:15:20
  data this year showing an increase in the church
• 1:15:22
  attendance and religiosity of young people between
• 1:15:24
  2018 and 2024. The number of young people who
• 1:15:28
  said they believed in a higher power rose from
• 1:15:30
  29 % in 2018 to 48 % in 2024. And while in 2018
• 1:15:36
  just 7 % of Gen Z said they attended church monthly,
• 1:15:39
  this went up to 23%. six years later. I think
• 1:15:42
  it's also, you know, so many people believe in
• 1:15:45
  a higher power or believe in the universe or
• 1:15:47
  whatever. It's just, it's taking that one step
• 1:15:51
  and saying, oh, well, it's God, it's Jesus. When
• 1:15:54
  your peers are doing it, then it becomes much
• 1:15:56
  easier to say, okay, I'm there now. I just put
• 1:16:00
  a name on it. The stigma, I think a stigma is
• 1:16:03
  starting to fall away. I agree. And I really
• 1:16:05
  love seeing that. You're a part of that. Yeah,
• 1:16:09
  yes. Which one of these clips that you brought
• 1:16:12
  do you want to play? Should do the, oh, I love
• 1:16:17
  the revival at Pitt. This is great. And a major
• 1:16:20
  worship gathering at the University of Pittsburgh
• 1:16:22
  is drawing thousands as the Unite Us ministry
• 1:16:25
  continues. A growing wave of campus revivals
• 1:16:28
  across the country. Hundreds of students responded
• 1:16:30
  to the gospel message coming forward to commit
• 1:16:33
  their lives to Christ during the event. Afterward,
• 1:16:36
  baptisms took place and pickup trucks in the
• 1:16:38
  parking lot, continuing late in the night as
• 1:16:40
  students publicly declared their faith. And then
• 1:16:44
  was this 2000 baptized in the Atlantic Ocean?
• 1:16:49
  Yeah, go with that. This is good. A powerful
• 1:16:52
  scene at Hanna Park today where nearly 2000 people
• 1:16:55
  were baptized in the Atlantic Ocean. This large
• 1:16:58
  -scale event was organized by the Church of 1122,
• 1:17:01
  and it drew a crowd of more than 11 ,000 people.
• 1:17:07
  That includes church members, family and friends,
• 1:17:10
  all gathering together to witness and support
• 1:17:13
  those who are taking this public step of faith.
• 1:17:16
  The beach transformed today into a sea of hope.
• 1:17:20
  This is now an annual tradition, and the beach
• 1:17:22
  baptism at the Church of 1122 continues to grow
• 1:17:25
  bigger and bigger each year. Baptism is a public
• 1:17:29
  declaration that Jesus Christ is your Lord and
• 1:17:32
  Savior. And it's not the water that baptizes
• 1:17:34
  you, it's that relationship that you have with
• 1:17:36
  Christ through the gospel of Jesus. And so this
• 1:17:39
  is an opportunity just for us to celebrate these
• 1:17:42
  people whose sins have been washed away and they've
• 1:17:44
  been resurrected to a newness of life. I was
• 1:17:47
  so sad that, well, I mean, I was happy, of course,
• 1:17:49
  for our brother, Mike, who got baptized on his
• 1:17:52
  birthday on the 9th. It's beautiful. And we saw
• 1:17:56
  the video. Yeah. Man, and he's 80. I think he's
• 1:17:59
  81. Yeah, 81. It's just so wonderful to see that
• 1:18:03
  and did it in your swimming pool. Yes, me and
• 1:18:07
  Pastor Brian, we double dunked. We were on each
• 1:18:09
  side of him. You could have held him under a
• 1:18:12
  little longer, honestly. You could have just...
• 1:18:14
  Bubbles, bubbles, man. I saw bubbles. It was
• 1:18:18
  such a beautiful scene. It was fantastic. Just
• 1:18:21
  the joy, just the joy on him and arms raised
• 1:18:25
  in the air when he comes up and smiling. This
• 1:18:29
  is a transformed man by Jesus Christ. And so
• 1:18:33
  what baptism is, for those of you who are interested,
• 1:18:37
  it is...baptismai literally means to immerse.
• 1:18:40
  I mean, that's what the word literally means,
• 1:18:42
  to dunk, to immerse fully. And it literally is
• 1:18:46
  an outward expression of an inward reality. You
• 1:18:49
  make that decision in your heart. You receive
• 1:18:53
  Christ, you say yes to Jesus. Yes, I want this.
• 1:18:56
  I want to be born again. I want to be saved.
• 1:18:58
  I want to become a disciple of Jesus, a follower."
• 1:19:01
  And you say that in your heart. It's a heart's
• 1:19:03
  cry, but you also say it with your mouth. As
• 1:19:06
  Scripture even tells us in Romans chapter 10,
• 1:19:08
  you confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ
• 1:19:10
  is Lord. Believe in your heart. These rays from
• 1:19:12
  the day said, you shall be saved, for whoever
• 1:19:15
  will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.
• 1:19:18
  So you have these beautiful promises as this
• 1:19:20
  is what you do. After that, then you want to
• 1:19:23
  follow the Lord and believers' baptisms. There's
• 1:19:25
  two things you need to do after you receive Christ.
• 1:19:27
  First of all, you need to tell people. Go and
• 1:19:29
  tell. Show and tell. Show up and tell. Go and
• 1:19:33
  tell others, hey, this is how I was, this is
• 1:19:36
  how I am now, and in between was Him. In between
• 1:19:40
  was Jesus. And that's why I'm a different person
• 1:19:43
  today. That's your testimony. Keep it simple
• 1:19:46
  saying, right? Just tell them what happened.
• 1:19:49
  You don't have to be a theologian or a Bible
• 1:19:50
  professor or have the New Testament memorized
• 1:19:53
  to share your faith. you share your journey where
• 1:19:56
  you are at this point. Also, just so people understand,
• 1:20:00
  my experience was that was the beginning. I mean,
• 1:20:03
  I was all in, I was there, but it's almost like
• 1:20:06
  I got my pilot's license. Now I have a license
• 1:20:08
  to learn how to fly. It's not the kickoff. It
• 1:20:11
  is the kickoff, yeah. This is when the game starts.
• 1:20:13
  It's not like all of a sudden, you know everything,
• 1:20:15
  you've got it all together. No, no. No, but that's,
• 1:20:17
  you know, people… It's the beginning. It is the
• 1:20:19
  beginning. So, that's what baptism is. It's the
• 1:20:21
  second piece. So, the first is go and tell. Second
• 1:20:23
  one is is be baptized. Jesus said, be baptized
• 1:20:27
  for the remission, the removal of your sins.
• 1:20:30
  It's a picture of that. It doesn't literally
• 1:20:32
  remove your sins. You're confessing Jesus and
• 1:20:35
  repenting of your sins. That's where that happens.
• 1:20:38
  But then this is the picture of it. And the picture
• 1:20:40
  is modeling, Romans chapter 6 tells us, buried
• 1:20:43
  with Christ in baptism. So like Christ died and
• 1:20:47
  was buried, right? Buried with Christ in baptism,
• 1:20:50
  you're raised to walk in newness of life. just
• 1:20:52
  like with Jesus, there's that resurrection. So
• 1:20:55
  you come up out of that water, not literally
• 1:20:57
  a different person because you've already made
• 1:20:59
  that decision in your heart, but this is symbolically
• 1:21:01
  saying, this is what I'm doing. This is my witness
• 1:21:04
  to the world. That's why we don't do baptisms
• 1:21:07
  in private. We invite friends and we invite family.
• 1:21:10
  We had a party at my house. We invited, we had
• 1:21:12
  steaks and we ate and drank and had a great time.
• 1:21:16
  And then we went out and did the baptism. It
• 1:21:18
  was such a beautiful celebration. And we've got
• 1:21:21
  people already ready to be baptized again. So
• 1:21:23
  we're going to be doing this on a regular basis
• 1:21:26
  here at the church. In fact, I met with Pastor
• 1:21:28
  Brian this morning and we have both made a commitment.
• 1:21:31
  We feel an urgency. While people get afraid,
• 1:21:34
  this is what a Christian witness does to answer
• 1:21:37
  that guy's question, that lady's question. So
• 1:21:39
  the Christian witness to the world is that we
• 1:21:43
  up our game. We raise the bar. We go harder.
• 1:21:46
  We go stronger. We let fear move us to make a
• 1:21:50
  bigger difference, not to shy away and hide away,
• 1:21:53
  not to run away, not to hide, not to go hunker
• 1:21:56
  down. Preach! It's get out there and get off
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  your blessed assurance and go do something for
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  the kingdom of God. And so that's our heart.
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  And we had a meeting about that this morning
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  and he's preaching this weekend because I'll
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  be in Murphysboro, Tennessee at a Culture and
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  Christianity Conference at Pastor Alan Jackson's
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  church. So Pastor Brian's going to go on, and
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  I was just lighting a fire. I was just throwing
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  fuel on the fire, raising the bar, getting him
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  excited. And I said, you know, don't preach out
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  of passion, preach out of conviction. Preach
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  out of the weightier things, the weightier matters.
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  You know, let your heart come through, not just
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  your words. So I'm just encouraging him and firing
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  him up. I think he's ready to blow up. He's ready
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  to go. We're going to have to have a fire retardant
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  clothing on in the first thing. No kidding. Play
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  one more of these clips because... You know,
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  when young people, when they see other young
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  people doing something, you know, there's a community
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  that they feel much better about joining something.
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  And you go to any of these concerts from any
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  of the, I mean, you just look at, you know, we've
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  been to a couple of them. You got 15, 20 ,000
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  people. You are not alone. You're not a freak.
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  You're not a weirdo. In fact, quite the opposite.
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  And it is saving children from some of the worst
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  things that are happening today in our over -connected,
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  over -socialized lives. This is a massive gathering.
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  More than 5 ,000 people at a Freedom in Jesus
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  get together at the University of Cincinnati
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  is where this one happened. Hundreds then took
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  the next step in their journey and were baptized
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  outside of this event. and Trinity Gere are both
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  student team members for Unitas who were behind
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  the organization of this event and were part
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  of the baptism ceremony. It's great to see both
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  of you. Thank you so much for being here. So
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  Trinity, tell us a little bit about what it felt
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  like at this event and what's happening on campus
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  there. Yes, I mean, campus has completely shifted
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  since Wednesday. Being at the event, being in
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  the room, there was true freedom. You could look
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  around, people are dancing, they're singing.
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  They're not thinking what is my classmate next
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  to me thinking. They were truly present in the
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  event. I mean, we've seen testimony after testimony.
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  I had a girl, a random girl text me and she said
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  that she walked into the event with suicidal
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  thoughts. She was anxious, she was depressed.
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  And it's Friday now and she texted me that. It
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  hasn't came back. She's like, I actually got
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  free that night. And she said, thank you. And
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  she ended up getting baptized that night as well.
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  And so that's just one testimony of the 5 ,500.
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  college students that were in that arena that
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  night. That's remarkable. Is that awesome or
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  what? Man, there's such a synergy that happens
• 1:24:43
  when when Christians come together. It's called
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  church. Yes. It can be in a Coliseum, an auditorium.
• 1:24:49
  It can be aisle four at HEB. And where two or
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  more are gathered. There it is. He's there. There
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  it is. Before we thank some people for our because
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  read this. Dear Mr. Curry. Well, right there
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  I'm like, okay, I'm old. I am writing this to
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  be in obedience, not for clout or attention.
• 1:25:36
  It feels as if God is pushing me to share this
• 1:25:38
  story, not a profound one, but still good to
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  his glory. Our God is awesome and Jesus could
• 1:25:43
  be a cooler judge and savior. Nice way to put
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  it. Here it goes. I'm living in Nashville. We're
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  in a cute house four miles from downtown by Berry
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  Hill. Your first appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast,
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  I'm listening while I do my daily walk down Drake
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  Avenue. You're at the high point of some info
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  dump, probably something a little irreverent.
• 1:26:04
  God stops me in my tracks and says, pray for
• 1:26:07
  him to find me. If there's an argument over it
• 1:26:11
  being God versus the Spirit talking, I give zeros,
• 1:26:15
  S's. Trinity, blah, blah, blah. It was an order
• 1:26:18
  from on high. I was not going to disobey. Before
• 1:26:22
  praying, I did give a skeptical shrug, not in
• 1:26:25
  doubt of God's ability or brother's worthiness,
• 1:26:28
  Just doubt because people suck at listening even
• 1:26:31
  when our Father shows up at their doorstep. Fast
• 1:26:34
  forward to your next appearance on Rogan. I'm
• 1:26:36
  on the same walk, same street, same expectation,
• 1:26:40
  except this time you proclaim Jesus Christ as
• 1:26:43
  your way, truth, and life. At that point, I stopped
• 1:26:46
  in the same spot I had prayed for you to find
• 1:26:48
  Jesus, looked up and said, you're good. As someone
• 1:26:53
  who has been sent to others with a hard message
• 1:26:55
  on occasion, it delights me to see and hear of
• 1:26:58
  a brother and sister who listened and came to
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  the fold. Sister in Christ, Natalie Knox. Beautiful
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  man. Thank you. Thank you for praying for me.
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  I know a lot of people have been praying for
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  a long, long time, but I just, you know, when
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  that comes around, even in the kind of interesting
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  and keep you. Thank you very much. Timothy Hutter,
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  I love what I do and working with kids, but admittedly,
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  that is public education in this country. As
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  channel at Clueless Casting. It's a fishing channel,
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  but it's really more about the stories and it's
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  fun for me to do. Please add me to your prayers
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  as I'm navigating a difficult internal struggle
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  of figuring out where God is calling me to go
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  next, whether that is to remain where I am or
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  something differently entirely. I love you, bros,
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  from Clueless. I love that. This is a hard one,
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  because I've struggled with this too. We all
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  have. What do you want me to do, God? What happens
• 1:29:08
  for me is I just keep getting reinforcement,
• 1:29:11
  and it's from other people. It's from a daily
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  devotional you open, and it has something relevant
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  to just what you're saying. I think that's all
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  planned. Multiples. Yeah, multiples. To hear
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  God from multiple angles. Yeah. $50 from Sir
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  Andrew Gardner. Cool. I started listening at
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  episode 45 after John passed and then went back
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  to the beginning and have listened to 1 through
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  36 so far and the latest ones mixed in there.
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  Listening to the two of you on what I like to
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  well, along with Hello Fred and all of the great
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  Yeah, I'd like to today. Man, just woke up sensing
• 1:31:27
  some things. Just about the world in general,
• 1:31:29
  what we talked about today and how it just shakes,
• 1:31:32
  it feels shaking. I mean, just the world's shaking.
• 1:31:35
  I feel the earth move under my feet, right? That's
• 1:31:37
  the whole song. Was that Carole King? It was
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  Carole King. So the title of today's Daily Grind
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  is Unshakeable Peace. It's found in Psalm 16,
• 1:31:46
  8. It says, I have set the Lord always before
• 1:31:49
  me because He is at my right hand. I shall not
• 1:31:53
  be shaken. And here's the title, Unshakeable
• 1:31:56
  Peace, and it says this, your peace, security,
• 1:31:58
  and stability in a world that is shaking come
• 1:32:02
  from knowing that God is near and is as near
• 1:32:05
  as your right hand. You do not have to live a
• 1:32:09
  shaky and fearful life when you keep the Lord
• 1:32:11
  before you. Why? Because steady makes you ready.
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  So today, keep the Lord in front of you, before
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  you, in prayer, in worship, and time in the Word.
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  Just talk to Him in your car or shower. Stay
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  with Him. And here's the prayer for today. Father,
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  thank you for your nearness. I will not be shaken.
• 1:32:31
  I will not be afraid. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen.
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  Brother, thank you so much. Always a pleasure.
• 1:32:38
  Shall we come back next week, do it again? Let's
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  do it. We get to do this, everybody. We'll see
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  you next Wednesday. Bye -bye.